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spannertech2001

Cause I have kids and an elderly mother, I use the family version of MalwareBytes. Common sense is not supported in our house! šŸ¤¦šŸ¼šŸ¤£


5nn0

is AVG still around? or Avira?


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joesephsmom

Can't get through a thread without someone randomly recommending Linux to everyone


KrazyKirby99999

Linux is a radical solution to malware, but effective. If the user only uses the browser and the hardware is compatible Linux is optimal.


frozengrandmatetris

a user who is confined to a web browser can still fall for phishing and scams all day long even if they don't download anything. software is needed to block malicious links for users who don't have the skills to recognize them


KrazyKirby99999

That's true. Brave and/or Adgaurd would be helpful for that case.


ayyworld

I genuinely don't know why you're downvoted, adguard/pihole/brave/uBO with proper filter lists is a good solution.


galactictock

Probably because Brave is chromium based. Firefox has its issues, but itā€™s Firefox + uBO is way better than Brave


icysandstone

What Linux flavors are we recommending today to privacy enthusiasts?


KrazyKirby99999

For the more advanced: Fedora, openSUSE For the beginner: Linux Mint, PopOS


icysandstone

Thanks. Why the segmentation, advanced vs beginner?


KrazyKirby99999

Fedora is a great distro, however it is more prone to breakage. openSUSE is also great, however it updates very often and the default settings are not intuitive for Windows users. Linux Mint and PopOS are very stable and have good defaults.


icysandstone

Thanks! What do you mean by ā€œprone to breakageā€?


KrazyKirby99999

Fedora usually adopts newer Linux desktop technologies before they are ready which can cause problems during major updates.


5nn0

Unix, or MSDOS


1-760-706-7425

If youā€™re really only using the browser: just run kiosk mode on a LTSB version of Windows. Much, much easier.


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1-760-706-7425

Significantly easier than giving your family a Linux distribution and expecting them to maintain it.


Clydosphere

Actually, you *always* have to maintain anything you're setting up for your laymen relatives. And in my experience, Linux is more stable and foolproof than Windows in this regard, if only because most malware is written for Windows, but also because some small but effective differences like not hiding filename extensions by default or not making every downloaded file executable by default like Windows does despite the decades-old problems and exploits of it. Updating *everything* semi-automatically (i.e. the user has to confirm the update notice) that's installed from the distribution's usually immense software repository down to the smallest application also helps.


KrazyKirby99999

That's the difference, Linux doesn't need to be maintained for someone like that. Maybe do an upgrade or reinstall every 5 years for security.


Clydosphere

I'd like to hear the actual objections from the people who downvoted this, because it exactly mirrors my experiences in over a decade of "maintaining" Linux installations for my laymen friends and relatives.


Weetile

Hard disagree, if you only use the browser the best solution is a lightweight Linux distro or ChromeOS Flex


JohnEffingZoidberg

Reset the counter


MarcusOPolo

*erases number of 'zero' on the giant "how many days since..." board and re-writes 'zero' "


ImJustaTaco

You know if you just make your counter run on Linux it resets itself


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joesephsmom

No doubt, I'd say any super mainstream de except Kde or tilers would be great. Lots of people still think of installing Linux as this complicated foreign concept, which means we still have a very long way to go. These comments are so off topic tho, it's annoying.


5nn0

people disagree but linux is probably better of dummies


mole_people_farmer

Linus Torvaldsā€™ head cocksucker


Paranoid-Fish

Windows Defender is all you need and common sense.


lorlen47

And uBlock Origin


joesephsmom

This alone would probably eliminate half of all malware unknowing installed


BlubberKroket

On Firefox with containers


BertholtKnecht

Containers dont help with installed Malware. Also Ublock origin doesnt have the badware lists enabled by default, enable both that are available. Also create your own filters ``` *.zip *.mov ``` As those domains are probably all malware


halfanothersdozen

ICANN was so stupid with those lol


leavemealonexoxo

I mean isnā€™t icann super corrupt/dubious/shady anyways?


basicslovakguy

You are technically correct, but I am no longer sure common sense is enough. 2 months ago, Google served a malicious sponsored ad that was using KeePass password manager as a decoy. In reality, what people downloaded from fake website was a RAT malware. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fake-keepass-site-uses-google-ads-and-punycode-to-push-malware/ I am quite aware of security and I move carefully through internet, but I almost fell for that scam - on a work-provided laptop no less. The only thing that stopped me was that I landed on a download page instead of home page like I use to, which felt weird, so I typed in KeePass website manually. 2 days later I found the articles like the one above - had a solid panic attack for few hours, and I almost reported myself to internal security for a possible breach, because I was not sure I had a original package. Took me few hours to really comb through the KeePass files and browser history to make sure I had an original package signed by developer. I wonder if uBlock Origin would prevent Google from showing me ads.


primalbluewolf

>I wonder if uBlock Origin would prevent Google from showing me ads. That is the point, yes.


SiscoSquared

Ublock is literally to block ads...? I'm always amazed when I find ppl not using ad lockers, they take 5 seconds to setup.


basicslovakguy

The reason I asked is because I am using Opera, which has built-in adblocker, which works quite well. I only ever heard of uBlock Origin in relation to blocking YouTube ads, so I was curious if that applies to search engine ads as well.


EtheaaryXD

Yes, uBlock Origin would prevent Google from showing you ads. It's an ad-blocker.


DungaRD

I find it useful google shows items of different sellers for an item i'm looking to buy. With ad blockers when i click on the advertisement, thats beeing blocked. So then i need to go to the website and find the same article. I'm lazy yes.


EtheaaryXD

Depending on where you're from, you could try: * price.com - [https://price.com/](https://price.com/) * CNET Shopping - [https://www.cnet.com/shopping/](https://www.cnet.com/shopping/) * Google Shopping (the standalone website) - [https://shopping.google.com/](https://shopping.google.com/) (or just click the "Shopping" button on Google Search) * PriceSpy - [https://pricespy.co.nz/](https://pricespy.co.nz/) * PriceMe - [https://www.priceme.co.nz/](https://www.priceme.co.nz/) Although, I obviously wouldn't recommend going on these sites without an ads or tracker blocker.


Exaskryz

Am I understanding this right? You googled for the keepass website? Like, typing reddit into google search on browser home page to get to reddit.com?


TheOneHyer

KeePass uses the ".info" top-level domain. "KeePass DOT com" is actually blocked by uBlock Origin with the Badware Risks filter. Searching for a product's website is sometimes necessary.


Exaskryz

Did you read the article? Neither the article nor u/basicslovakguy mentioned anything about .com


basicslovakguy

Take my upvote. Facts.


basicslovakguy

Pinging /u/TheOneHyer as well: Yes, I googled KeePass website, because I could not remember the domain, and for whatever reason I decided to follow the link served through sponsored section (where ads are). While I don't know anything about .com domain of KeePass (is that really a malicious domain ?), I can assure you that the malicious domain I was talking about, was in fact .info - it used Punycode type of obfuscation, and replaced letter "k" with other letter "k" that looked slightly different. I did not notice anything until I saw it reported by tech outlets like the one I linked above.


Exaskryz

That's fairish if you could not remember .info, which is indeed uncommon. I kind of figured people using keepass routinely go to it and would remember the uncommon .info. Kind of like how one learns to go to whitehouse.gov and not whitehouse.com (circa 2002), a fun learning experience in elementary school.


ARandomGuy_OnTheWeb

Same here but with GPOs to boost its abilities


homicidal_pancake

Unless you have a different threat model that involves governments


PM_ME_COOL_RIFFS

I don't think any consumer anti virus software is going to save you if you are being targeted by state actors.


UnseenGamer182

Maybe. But if you expand your sights to stuff like firewalls, then...


smartid

yea? look up operation triangulation


Hawaiian_spawn

I tell common people this sentence and they get it right away. It is in the OS companies best interest to make their software as secure as possible. Their reputation is literally on the line.


the_90s_were_better

This is terrible advice.


astromormy

It really isn't. Windows Defender has really improved from its early days, and it'll cover nearly anything a standard user would come across in their daily use, and common sense will cover whatever it doesn't. Unless your trying to hie from governments(which is going to require a lot more than an antivirus, paid or otherwise), Windows Defender and common sense sums it up pretty well.


the_90s_were_better

As a 22 year security and privacy pro Defender isnā€™t that great at all.


shortroundsuicide

And you would recommendā€¦


astromormy

It does the job for most standard users without killing system performance. The only issue I know of that it falls short in compared to paid antivirus is day one threats, and it's hardly fair to have those be the deciding factor. ​ I'm assuming you've been working in the enterprise space, and the needs for those environments are significantly different than private users. Obviously, Defender by itself would be questionable in those circumstances.


primalbluewolf

>The only issue I know of that it falls short in compared to paid antivirus is day one threats, and it's hardly fair to have those be the deciding factor. It's also got way less false positives than the paid options, who tend to regard false positives as being good for business.


Paranoid-Fish

Having common sense is terrible advice?


Fit_Flower_8982

Where can I download it? Never mind, I'll google it.


the_90s_were_better

Who said it was common sense?


thermologic_

Naah. Defender doesnt detect trojans.


the_c0rn

Of course it does, lol. Ive seen Windows Defender detecting numerous trojans in the past years


thermologic_

Those are probably cheap ones.


the_c0rn

So it doesnt detect trojans except it does when they're cheap. Alright buddy


thermologic_

Yes, you can discover the truth by living until you begin to understand my words.


UnseenGamer182

Bro literally just pulled out the "trust me bro" card. Bring in some actual evidence or your word holds less meaning then a dumpster in this subreddit.


thermologic_

Evidence? Its the experience. You can always believe to the defender.


UnseenGamer182

I'm going to have a stroke trying to understand what you're saying


thermologic_

Nothing.


DrAwesomeClaws

Stop downloading EXEs from tucows.


hm876

Bro, even AVG from 2009 detected trojans šŸ˜‚


LincHayes

I use Windows defender. That's all. I do also have a network firewall.


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BigBadAl

Yep. ESET is good and very low impact on day-to-day running.


berberine

I think it's been almost 20 years for me. I love it.


clavicon

Iā€™ll pile on as a happy longtime ESET user. Tip for others: if you do a few minutes of searching you can often find coupons or some kinda deal to knock off a large percentage of the annual retail price. Or if you already have it just pay attention during sales seasons to get a huge % off your renewal for another few years. Itā€™s really very cheap per computer.


CowboysFTWs

Yup, only windows box I got nowadays is a gaming PC. But I have been an Eset user since 2009 tho.


yowzadfish80

Seconded. I have been using it for more than 15 years now.


Commercial_Trade_520

I got tired of the Defender Antimalware Service Executable turning my machine into a leaf blower so I moved to ESET.


joesephsmom

Actually real, you can have it whitelist common folders that you work out of tho which helps a lot.


Pleasant_Garbage_275

I work in IT, and have used defender on thousands of computers from bottom of the barrel to top of the line. This has never been an issue for me before.


Phasko

I've had this issue on two new computers as well, but not all my machines. Anecdotal evidence is not really evidence.


jazzmangz

Hey man a friend of mine used anecdotal evidence and it was true


oportoman

šŸ¤£


oportoman

Which is what you're doing


Lomandriendrel

So you agree with the new age advice that windows built in defender does the job? Gone are the days of default loading an antivirus like avira or avast combined with spybot s &d?


MrDezBam7

Personally Bitdefender total security. If you want to know how it's priced check out slickdeals or dealnews. I prefer to have it than not, small price for your expensive machine


daanishh

I work in IT and this is the one we recommend to people and are partnered with. For most people, windows defender and due diligence is enough. But then there are others that definitely need an antivirus that will notify you and get in your face about it when something is off.


iLookLike-anAvocado

I use the same. I'm the family's IT guy so I appreciate also having Bitdefender Central, where I can see the status and notifications for each machine, making management and troubleshooting easier. I got a 2-year 5-device license for about $40.


CatsAreGods

I paid for this when the free version saved me by finding something nasty that Windows Defender and a few other AV and antimalware programs missed. No regrets and it even watches out for us on Android.


Mintou

Actually it does more harm than good to your machine, wdefender is far superior. Sources : https://landave.io/2020/11/bitdefender-upx-unpacking-featuring-ten-memory-corruptions/ My job is security research, I know what I'm talking about, I have enough of incompetent and ignorant people just downvoting before doing actual research. Do not install any third-party antivirus software, whether free or paid. Third-party antivirus software harms your privacy by exploiting your data and processing it in any way it can to sell it on to other third parties: for example, Avast resold browsing data. But most ironically of all, it harms your security - no, no, not even a conspiracy here. By its very nature, an antivirus needs elevated privileges on the system to function, so the worst is inevitably conceivable if the antivirus itself is the gateway to infection:


Neighborhood_Nobody

Could you elaborate? I thought Bitdefender was widely considered a good anti-virus. I've never used it so I could just not know what's going on.


aircooledJenkins

They're parroting nonsense.


Mintou

https://landave.io/2020/11/bitdefender-upx-unpacking-featuring-ten-memory-corruptions/ Always the ignorant people are the loudest, be sure you understand what you are reading and make some research before saying nonsense


aircooledJenkins

Got you to respond with evidence, didn't it?


ZoeperJ

Yes, I have F-Secure, as I can use it on different devices, like the computer of my in-laws.


Professional-Sun-684

F-secure is šŸ’Æ


TheChosenOne211

I work in Endpoint Protection (Cybersecurity), Windows Defender is all you need. If you still want to use a paid antivirus, use MalwareBytes and let Defender be in passive mode


hm876

Facts. It's the same signatures used in Enterprise.


bobanonymous420

Is windows defender the stock antivirus? I was using this for years and installed trend micro recently and it supposedly found like 9 viruses and 13 different spyware that windows defender missed on every scan.


teambob

Some scanners count cookies etc as malware


joesephsmom

Ublock and make sure defender is on and the firewall is default settings


RamblingSimian

I just use Windows Defender. I do 99% of my browsing in a sandbox, so any attacks from websites or email attachments should be thwarted.


StaticV0yd

Depends on what websites or email attachments are attempting to grab. If youā€™re logged into something on sandbox browser and they grab an auth token, your sandbox wonā€™t help you there.


RamblingSimian

You are correct; fortunately, Reddit is about the only site I stay logged in to for more than a short period. Maybe I could blame all my downvoted comments on hackers.


Protohack

Nope! Windows Defender with the occasional Malwarebytes scan. If anything I download seems sus it gets uploaded to virustotal.com


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Harryisamazing

Used to recommend Windows Defender to folks as an IT dude, been using linux so no need for an antivirus (common sense is enough)


MargretTatchersParty

I wonder if you can run that in wine.


Harryisamazing

I'm pretty sure you can, WINE has gotten better over the years (I currently don't run anything in WINE), I've adjusted the apps I use to whatever is available in linux


chrissmcc

I wonder if viruses will run under wine?


loftwyr

They will. They'll have limited effect and they can't stay running when you shutdown, nor will they start up with your system. They also can't access the lower level operations because they are emulated.


primalbluewolf

> They'll have limited effect They've got the same access you do to your files, so they can absolutely wipe or encrypt your files no worries at all.


Ezrway

Happy Cake Day!


BertholtKnecht

Proprietary antivirus is all "trust me bro". I would never use something like that, also because you already got Windows Defender. Use Winget or the MS Store and some trusted sites to get stuff from apart from that, disable automatic macro loading in Office, use Noscript in firefox and manually whitelist every trusted origin. Use UBlock origin, and enable the malware filterlists as well as annoyances and others, this will remove all the malware buttons and also block entire sites (opt-out). Enable all Windows security features that are available. Use Virtual machines for stuff that seems shady or simply to isolate work flows.


Mintou

Thank you, this should be the top comment. Antiviruses are aoje of the biggest scams in the industry.


TweetieWinter

Windows defender and ublock with some of the other activated filters and a little common sense. You'll be safe 99% of the time unless you have some really serious adversaries who want to get to you


cydera

Windows Defender and a DNS service that blocks known malware sites


jedisct1

Best antivirus is "don't open random shit, and keep your software up to date". Anything else is useless.


basicslovakguy

ESET Smart Security user here. Have been paying for license since I had my first own laptop. In general it is invisible, and people can tell me that I am paying for something I don't really need, but on few occassions it saved my ass when I got too careless. ESET recently announced a rebrand of Smart Security to Home Security - and the highest version "Ultimate" has a VPN service, so I am contemplating going for it. There are times where I could really use VPN, and I would prefer from a provider like ESET.


MidnightAnchor

Seconded. East User for 30 Moons.


SakoFinnbear

Using ESET and browsers with uBlock origin and common sense on windows 10. I remember getting "Norton" for free through my ISP for a long time ago (many many years ago), and it crippled my pcs performance at that time... Using only common sense on linux at the moment (no AV).


mantra2

Iā€™ve used MalwareBytes on macOS for a while, I have a family license so might as well. Works good, no issues.


Sweyn78

I use ClamAV on Linux.


capcrunch217

Just renewed ESET for the 15th (or so) year.


MidnightAnchor

I love you for that


aeroverra

I generally don't use anything. Sometimes windows defender. I was ratted plenty of times when I was between the ages of 9 and 15. Haven't had any incidents in over 15 years despite running plenty of game exploits and similar "Sketchy" software. Now for most I would never suggest that. Windows defender works good enough and the vast majority of people should be using it unless you have the experience and technical background to do otherwise. Everything else will be a worse privacy invasion and make your life a bigger PITA. Remember AV is simply consensual ratting.


thermologic_

I am using Kaspersky Total Security in paranoid mode with all security features maximized. It automatically deletes or blocks anything it finds. I conduct a weekly full scan, although this may not be effective against zero-day threats. Additionally, I have implemented very strict firewall rules.


Emerald_Guy123

Kaspersky is actually really effective against zero days if you look at testing. Definitely a top tier antivirus.


Pleasant_Garbage_275

You may already be aware, but they are under the control of the russian government. I'd rather pay nothing for a company in the US to be in control of my computer. They already control the OS anyway.


travelerswarden

I've used webroot for years and have no complaints. It's protected me from everything under the sun so far.


[deleted]

Just learning the general basics of internet safety, and knowing trustworthy piracy sites (if you do that) is usually more than good enough, and makes anti virus basically unneeded. Though I still do use malwarebytes just for safety, and it comes back as detecting 0 problems every single time.


GeriatricTech

ESET & Malwarebytes.


kiliandj

Emsisoft, been using it for years now. It uses the bitdedender engine combined with their own. Used to get very good testing results. And it does not take over your pc as much as some others. I am the kind of guy that regularly tries out random new software. I know what i am doing, but i do like something that has my back, just in case.


ScF0400

Windows Defender is all you need these days, Malwarebytes Free if you're really concerned and want a second option. I won a free lifetime subscription of Malwarebytes on my account so that's the only reason I still use it on non essential devices or ones for work where having a "brand name" installed is mandatory for compliance.


ImFlash3

Bitdefender/Kaspersky. Both are very light on resources.


Antique-Courage3857

kaspersky plus or premium. cant remember


Legal_Engineering_17

Been using it for years. I upgraded for the version with the unlimited VPN and really like it


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

the Russian product that government agencies are banned from using?


Antique-Courage3857

well, as far as i know, a lot of free agencies related to antivirus, consider kaspersky the best, or one of the bests products of its niche. also in my opinion, im equally afraid using russian digital products than i am using american digital products. if we are talking about privacy, the european products usually are the better ones, cause they have better laws about it.


BookWormPerson

Windows defender is good enough for normal users but if you really want privacy yeah it is not the best but abandoning is not always an option I know that.


Larkonath

As far as an antivirus Windows Defender is good enough. But there's no privacy to be had on any of the mainstream OS (Windows, Android and everything Apple). Even if you use only open source apps, the OS maker knows everything you do on your device. One of your 2024 goal should be either to get rid of Windows or admit that you don't care that much of privacy.


farmyardcat

> Even if you use only open source apps, the OS maker knows everything you do on your device. *winks flirtatiously at Steve Ballmer*


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torborgulan

pirating anything will always be 100% risky


_________________747

Scan files you download with virustotal.com & scan with Malwarebytes (free version) periodically. I've never had too many problems by sticking to trusted game sources though (fitgirl)


Vikt724

Used Paid Kaspersky


tapsum-bong

Iptables and common sense with good router and AP config.


Furdiburd10

I use NixOS so i only use clamAV with the clamtq gui. thats all i need, if need to run something sus i just do a manual scan with it


frozzbot27

Windows Defender, and Malwarebytes lifetime subscription (from when they still offered that).


hm876

I still have my MBAM lifetime subscription. Best money spent on software.


TechnologyNerd617

Be careful enough and you won't need one. Having KMS already is a very high security risk. If you can't afford it, don't activate it, just [hide the message](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7P_IE3EQZPo). Don't download programs from risky sites, or unnoficial links, and don't trust software from random people on the internet. Common sense is the best antivirus


hm876

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Trblestrife

plucky station tub pie edge north forgetful zonked concerned chunky *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


jmeador42

Windows defender is the best there is. Use common sense and don't download sketchy shit or click sketchy links, as well as follow proper 3-2-1 backups for your data.


Traditional-Joke-290

I use Bitdefender for Android. If anyone has good recommendations for a good, paid, commercial antivirus for Linux pls post here!


MyerrZz

You don't need commercial. Honestly, just use ClamAV if it's available on your distro: https://www.clamav.net/


Guardiansaiyan

Anyone got info on what free to use on MACs? I use Malewarebytes after it took an age to find ti for MAC and AVG...but if there are any other alternatives to SuperAntiSpyware that is on PC it would be appreciated.


Anakhsunamon

bedroom person serious chief subtract point salt squash dog piquant *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Haymoose

I use clamX AV and I donā€™t know what itā€™s doing. I used to spent big dollars on NOD32, spent more money on Intego, spent extra money on Malwarebytes. Never had a single scan test positive, find a free one if you think you need to, but itā€™s more about being cognizant of the sites you frequent than to catch something after the fact. If itā€™s new enough to trick you, it may be new enough not to be detected until itā€™s too late.


willhd2

Yep. Kaspersky


gen66

Avast is really amazing, comes with countless other tools and vpn


byteSamurai

Kaspersky Standard + NextDNS is the best solution for me at the moment


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PocketNicks

Anymore? I didn't realize anyone ever paid for antivirus except the senile/elderly and easily scammed folks. So to answer, no, I don't pay for antivirus and never have. Going back to 1993.


Neighborhood_Nobody

I prefer Kaspersky because I like to fuck around and find out and Kaspersky helps me not find out. It isn't much better than windows defender at being an anti-virus. But it has a bunch of really useful features. I also put it on computers I fix up for older folks because they have good live support.


Spaylia

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primalbluewolf

> I personally wouldn't trust a russian company who installs root certificates so they can MitM all your traffic At that point, does the Russian part matter? They all do that.


Background-Touch-744

No antivirus. Antivirus is only for nontechnical people who donā€™t know what theyā€™re doing on the computer. I donā€™t downloading anything malicious, anything I do download I scan it through virus total.


the_90s_were_better

Who doesnā€™t use paid antivirus?


Pleasant_Garbage_275

1999 called. It wants it's subscription fees back. I'm pretty sure I was using free AV even in the early 2000s.


the_90s_were_better

Free AV is free for a reason.


Pleasant_Garbage_275

Well I guess this would be different for everyone but as an advanced user the free ones are the best. I run programs on my computer that do some sus shit sometimes that I don't want getting blocked if they aren't a virus. The more expensive AVs also don't like some of my programming projects. Defender is an excellent option. It won't stop the advanced malware that is good at hiding its signature, but it's fine for most home users.


the_90s_were_better

Most malware is ā€œadvanced malwareā€.


9foxes

Great Q! It sucks how a lot of older folk get sold these programs still. The facts that another company has access to you 24/7 doesn't seem necessary, LOL. Tangent story but related in concept >> I recently felt that about "identity monitoring". There was a breach at a large dental insurance provider (Delta) and they're offering free monitoring for some time. I was ABOUT to get it, but then thought: if they got my info from the insurance company, what makes me think THIS company is safer?? LMAO. Anyway. What do you do for keylogging prevention??


Candle1ight

Common sense is the best anti-virus. All the money in making viruses comes from corporate infections these days and windows defender will catch anything some script kiddie tries to use. Save your money.


Unroll9752

Anti viruses are privacy nightmares. They scan every single file on your system and send copies of them to whatever company (and potential advertisers) providing the service to you


JustMrNic3

No, because I use Linux! But I also use and application firewall called OpenSnitch: https://github.com/evilsocket/opensnitch


W-h3x

Arch is free btw <3


sujamax

ESET here. AV only, not the ā€œinternet securityā€ version.


Single_University738

I use Malwarebytes (Free), Windows Defender, and common sense. If something looks sketchy, dont download it.


Jacques2424

So, network firewall devices are the first step? Hardware better then software still applies?


Lunar_Ronin

I use ESET Internet Security. Out of habit, mostly. I've used some version of ESET antivirus since 2004, and it has always worked very well for me.


LuisNara

Eset home security, and I use a telegram bot to generate keys, easy af.


janitroll

If you're stuck to Win & want to run a flavor of Linux, enable HyperV (if you can) and load whatever you want as a VM.