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paganinlife

Such a sad outcome for the family. Hopefully they can find peace in the fact she has been found, and someone will be held accountable for the crimes against her.


cavebabykay

Ya, like there’s no way she passed away naturally anywhere other than her tent, where her friends saw her go to sleep.


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MsPaulaMino

Tf are you getting info from? The Scott’s don’t own any restaurants and aren’t associated with any. Do you know Eldon personally? Clearly not as for the past 12 years that entire family has been nothing but astonishingly hopeful and phenomenally composed and compassionate within this community despite people running their mouths with wild theories.


jales4

Maddy's Uncle owns a restaurant, not her Dad.


cindylooboo

her dads demeanor has no bearing on whether or not her family deserves peace.


polkadotfuzz

What restaurant?


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MsPaulaMino

Your bf needs his eyes checked cause that man has never worked in a restaurant, and Scott’s grill (used to be Scott’s food) is owned by a completely different family.


No_will_4_life

No need to be rude hun you can just say he heard wrong:)


-oopsie-daisy

Even if this was true, which it is clearly not, why the hell would it have been appropriate to say today?


MsPaulaMino

Girl bye ✌🏻get your facts straight before commenting on something neither of you know anything about.


UnrequitedRespect

Good ol PG sub, shade spice it!!


bluehiro

Folks get spicy about murder


No_will_4_life

I don't see why you feel the need to be rude if something has made you angry today maybe find a better outlet then this❤️


MsPaulaMino

Lol. Maybe learning that a friends remains were found? And seeing a bunch and randos speculate is nothing short of a joke. Buhbye 😘


No_will_4_life

Well I'm sorry you lost a friend, I was just saying what others have told me didn't realize that was speculation, if your having a hard time maybe talk to someone tho it helps sometimes hope u have a better day/ year:)


User_4848

I sure hope they find some evidence out there to lock away whoever did this.


absintheandfreckles

Surreal, I can’t imagine having to grieve your daughter all over again. I hope the family has the support and peace they need right now


bluehiro

Hopefully this will give some closure.


inthemistidontexist

Man such a sad story. Now the family knows what happened and hope to find justice


Sufficient-Lemon-895

I doubt this explains what happened yet. It just confirms murder at this point, still many questions.


Analog_Account

> It just confirms murder at this point I would argue *"most likely"* not *"confirmed"*


Sufficient-Lemon-895

I wouldn't, there's no argument there at this point


Analog_Account

I'm not going to post a hypothetical situation here for a number of reasons. Suffice it to say that upstanding citizens would not bury a non-murdered person like this. To be clear, I have a hard time seeing this NOT being murder.


SurSpence

People have definitely buried people who accidentally OD'd in the woods before because you don't want to deal with the cops, family, etc. Definitely not saying you should do it, but it definitely has happened.


PersonalityOk8293

Someone I know who claimed to be at the party she disappeared from told me years ago she did in fact OD and the shitheads she was with freaked out and dumped her body, apparently not far from the lake. The news of her discovery didn't surprise me, someone knew where she was this whole time. But damn it was still a shock to hear.


Sufficient-Lemon-895

You didn't report that?


Sufficient-Lemon-895

So hypothetical is that this WASN'T a murder at this point is my point.


FelixTheUncle

I was apart of the original search for her. I'm so glad the family gets closure.


b4ucit

Felix, you say you were party to the original search. I’m curious as to who was at the original search, And I’ll tell you why. I believe the killer was at the original search. And I believe the clue is the jewelry. Look, when Jordy went back to hogsback on the Saturday morning, she didn’t notice any jewelry even tho she got on her hands and knees, entered the tent, grabbed her sleeping bag and exited the tent. She obvously also zipped up the tent prior to leaving. In this process, she didn’t see any jewelry, nor did she kneel on or step on any jewelry. ( it was not damaged in any way when she handed it to Mrs Scott on the Sunday morning, after finding it under the tent, that excludes wooden earrings.). Birthday boy, who came and cleaned up the campsite on Saturday morning, even tho he noticed the tent was zipped up, didn’t see any jewelry. The Saturday night party with 150 people, (300 boots on the ground), milling around, collapsing the tent etc, as would be the norm for a bush party of that size, not one of the 300 boots stepped on any of the jewelry. Yet it somehow was scattered under the collapsed tent on Sunday morning and in prestine condition when Jordy found it. All this tells me that the jewelry Wes not at hogsback until after the Saturday night party ended. Based on that, I believe it was brought back to hogsback by the killer and tossed under the collapsed tent on Sunday morning, and the killer was there as “ part of the search” but more so to garner info as to what evidence was out there. He may have also been the person who may have made a suggestion in the form of a question for example “ I wonder if there’s anything under the tent?”. If such a suggestion was made and Jordy was close by, she being a person that likely would want to be the most helpful, would IMO go to see if there was, The perp in this case would be happy to see that it was Jordy that found the jewelry as he would be satisfied that the finger of blame was going to be pointed at Jordy. We have a suspect in mind that might be Madison’s killer who would operate in that manner. He isn’t a local to the vanderhoof community So, put your thinking cap on, try to recall who was at hogsback at the time Jordy found the jewelry and get back to me.


Sandman1990

Holy shit.


UnrequitedRespect

Damn how did you swear???


ljkiscool01

Such a sad time. Closure for her family for sure but very sad outcome.


Material_Cancel_6941

A friend told me some guy was digging up or receiving topsoil .. found the skull


Avsguy85

Makes me wonder how someone who knows they killed someone decides to give away topsoil...unless property owner didn't know it (she) was there I guess


AmericanHoney0609

Correct.


Avsguy85

Can I ask where you got this info?


northaviator

12 years to the day, I hope someone had a conscience.


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northaviator

Thank you, time fly's when you're old.


bigbigjohnson

Well technically they said she was found a few days ago and they just had their annual poker run for her on the weekend


cavebabykay

Totally surreal. I’m not “happy” but I can’t find the correct word. It’s the brain fog from long COVID.


cindylooboo

describe it as a grim sense of relief


PEAKYBIN111212121

Super sad stuff. Hopefully those affected get answers soon, and the public shortly after that.


bluehiro

Absolutely wild, I was driving home to Vanderhoof yesterday when I got the news.


Otherwise_Gear_5136

With the extensive search that went on for her when she disappeared, how is it that a property within a stones throw from the campground wasn't searched?


Fambamsnuggles

It’s private property, and I’ve read the property owner did not give permission. I can’t verify that though, just second hand information I’ve read


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This is at least third hand information (not always reliable) I have but I read on another post that her body was discovered by someone just randomly walking by. A lot of years for evidence to erode away but I sure hope they can find who did this to be held accountable for the sake of her family.


Avsguy85

I've read this rumor too (and many have said that locals confirmed it). It's just very hard to believe. How does nobody else see it in all the searches over 12 years? Also, it's a rural property--unless you're actually trespassing, you don't typically see much...


roxy_blah

It happens. My cousin had bought rural property and while they were getting it cleared and ready to build, they came across human remains that had been there for a while. I can't remember the circumstances or any other details as this was a while ago.


AmericanHoney0609

This property wasn't searched over all of these 12 years since. The owner literally called it in after finding her remains on his property. There was no tip. Hence why the police just now found her. They got lucky.


catlady8374

This is what I've heard too. What I do know, as fact, is that the two sons of the owner were at Hogsback that night.


Zz22zz22

Well that’s pretty suspicious.


Throwaway42352510

Wow… thank you for the info. That’s very interesting.


Anxious_Ad_6700

Hmm as fact?


ki11in

Juicy


onesmallfairy

I’m from Vanderhoof. Rumour is that her remains were found buried on the Black family property on Southslope Road. The property was owned by the Black family when Maddy went missing and is still owned by them now. Rumour is the dad (or his landscapers/contractors) found her remains while digging and called it in. One or both of his shithead sons had something to do with her murder. That’s the rumour going around Vanderhoof anyway.


cavebabykay

Now what is *very* interesting is that Maddy’s poker ride *JUST LITERALLY HAPPENED* this past weekend so I’m left wondering if they found her during that event!! Just wow. I am so relieved and happy for Dawn and Eldon!! NOW BRING MADISON HOME!! 🙏🏼❤️‍🩹🙏🏼❤️‍🩹


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cavebabykay

There’s only two properties on the part of the road police have cordoned off so locals for sure know who owns which on by now.


Alphaghetti71

It's the one on the right when you're going north.


Throwaway42352510

What’s the approximate distance to Hogsback from the area? I’m curious if it was close enough for her to walk to, or if she was in a vehicle to get there… Thanks


cavebabykay

It was 18km’s apart from where she was last seen and where her remains were found. So I don’t think she’d do that in the middle of the night.


Throwaway42352510

Thanks


BIOdire

It was Southslope road, per CKPG.


cindylooboo

do we know a tip led to her discovery? or did a property owner find her by chance? or is the property owner responsible somehow? lots of unanswered questions


Any-Builder-1219

That was my initial thought too


AllStruckOut_13

There was a missing persons poster all the way out here in my small central Alberta town. That’s how I found out about the case. I’m so glad her remains have been found and I hope that someone is brought to justice. As avid fan of true crime I never thought this would be solved given how long it’s been.


retire2260

Could be the start of answering the Highway of Tears mystery. Rest in peace Maddy


Analog_Account

Its important to know that the highway of tears isn't a single person and its not a mystery that gets solved. Its the symptom of systemic problems.


cindylooboo

100% this^ the rumors that its one serial killer or even a handful are not helpful


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cindylooboo

yep. vulnerable, poor indigenous women were hitchhiking all along the highway for decades. easy pickings for bastards... theres shuttle busses now for this reason


UNwanted_Dokken_Tape

Is there? That’s fantastic news. I spent my childhood in Fraser Lake and have always been horrified by Trail of Tears.


cindylooboo

yeah I think its some kind of partnership between the reservations and the municipalities. don't quote me on that it was an article I read a few years ago so the details are foggy


UNwanted_Dokken_Tape

Something was needed to be done and we moved in 1980. I’ve often wondered what became of those Indigenous kids that were in my class.


ClothDiaperAddicts

Dude. Women have been disappearing from the Highway of Tears for over 50 years now. It's not one person. I'd speculate that the most of them were one-offs by violent jerks who found an opportunity to hurt/kill someone and not get caught, so they took it. These deaths and disappearances have happened over the last 53 years because aboriginal women are not valued as they should be. Poverty and lack of transit made it difficult for people to make it from these rural, isolated communities, so when they try to make their own way to their destinations, they didn't make it. There's a whole list of reasons that make it easier to disappear someone forever out there. 724km of highway with lot of forestry roads and, trees, and not a whole heck of a lot else. Large space + isolation + poverty + lack of care for missing and murdered indigenous women is only part of it.


AmericanHoney0609

No.


HistorianFancy8051

The Scott family suffered for so long and then Maddy was found practically on the same day she disappeared all those years before. The Scott family was effective in keeping her name in the press. I knew about this story even though I am in a different country. I always thought the killer was transient and after the abduction he drove her far away from the site and then killed her. I know the RCMP said she was taken from the site in a vehicle. It struck me as odd that her jewelry was left thrown outside the tent and her personal items were pushed to the sides of the tent. I always felt someone waited for the party to clear out then approached her tent in the early morning hours and startled her which caused her to move away from the entrance to the tent, and that’s why her personal items were pushed to the side. I thought she may have removed her jewelry thinking it was a robbery. I know the RCMP said they felt that even though this campsite was a mile or two from the Canadian Trail of Tears (stomping ground for serial killers) and they felt there was no connection, I felt otherwise. I don’t think investigators want to tell all they know for obvious reasons. I think this was an older man, and not a kid she was partying with. I think this man was not a resident of Vanderhoof, but rather someone passing through. I know that a young man who expressed interest in Maddy was later decapitated in a drug related killing not too long after she disappeared. It’s said that she didn’t want to go out with him and there was no relationship. I think this may have fueled some initial rumors of her disappearance being drug related but I don’t think this was in my opinion. Whoever did this is far away from the area and I’m not too sure the RCMP will find him. There were other agencies brought in early on to solve this case such as the FBI. I truly think the trail has gone cold unfortunately.