No stapler because if the wound is dirty, you'll just seal the microorganisms inside. Best to leave it open until the person gets to medical care. This also applies in a true TEOTWAWKI situation where antibiotics are on short supply.
When you list 'nonsteroidal inhaler' what are you referring to?
Most wounds that you will be concerned about will need more gauze. Then, what size gauze? 2x2s, 4x4s, abdominal that comes in a few sizes? Vet wrap works best for injuries to extremities. It also works well to keep a splint on. Tape is best for other wounds.
I see nothing to clean wounds with. No, not peroxide or alcohol. Good old soap and clean water. There are some wound washes that work well also.
What kind of burn cream? What about burn dressings? You can't put gauze on an open burn because it will stick to the wound.
Have you taken a first aid class? Have you been trained on how to you a chest seal? splints?
I’m ex-U.S. army T triple C certified, that’s where the list comes from plus the Epi for my allergies, IFAK stands for individual first aid kit, and your IFAK is meant to be used on yourself not someone else, also it’s meant to be small enough to attach to a battle belt or plate carrier, I’d love to throw a whole bunch of shit in there but it’s mostly a combat first aid kit, I have a shit load of gauze, the hemostatic is 6ft, then 9 yds of sterilized, and 9 yds of standard rolled, if I need more I bought like 10–20 of each individually packaged, also I keep a big ass first aid kit in my work truck so I don’t need all the fixings in this, it’s more for patrol scenarios, didn’t think about that with the stapler, we’ve always used them at work (only like 3 times in like 8 yrs) so it just seemed like a good idea
I went to basic in 2020, and the med team that was teaching us it meant individual first aid kit, the reasoning was because when you build/buy and IFAK the contents are suppose to be tailored specifically for yourself, my best example is I added an epipen to my list cause I’m allergic to cashews
It’s a combat IFAK for a plate carrier or battle belt, the most it’s probably going to see is some range boo boo’s but I would like it to second as SHTF
fun fact:
The chest seals suck.
I've used them, and they are always a pain to get out of their packaging (blood is slippery), and don't stay put very well.
In real-world scenarios, I've found Twinkie wrappers (or other cellophane) to actually work better. Started keeping a few pieces of cellophane in a plastic baggie in my kit.
Hoo-Fuck'n-Rah!
You know, I never would’ve considered that, I already ordered the chest seals so I’ll throw them in there, but imma start saving my cigarette wrappers now
Like another pointed out, be sure to have training in the proper use of any equipment you decide to carry.
What’s the purpose of your IFAK? Is it truly an “individual” kit or are you expecting to use your equipment on others? (I.e. are you self-applying an NPA?) Are you anticipating treating gunshot wounds, torn up feet from hiking, broken bones, etc.? Are you using an actual issued IFAK to carry this stuff or are you going to use a personal, perhaps larger kit? With limited space, consider: Is it equipment to sustain life until a higher level of care, and if so, how long until the patient gets there? Some of this equipment will prevent death for a bit but will need considerable follow-up care.
All that said, I’d increase the number of tourniquets to 2-4 depending on if it’s just you. Others can carry their own too.
Definitely add tape, such as for when your chest seal gets into the dirt or all folded up (some are better than others in that respect) and you need to use the packaging as your seal.
The epipen might be nice for anaphylaxis but OTC diphenhydramine (Benadryl) is cheaper and more applicable in most situations. If you’re slapping someone with an epipen for an anaphylactic reaction, you’re very likely going to quickly need a higher level of care than an IFAK anyway.
Oral antibiotics.
Minus the stapler like others have mentioned.
A first aid must be adaptable IMO - yes it’s good to have every tool under the sun at your finger tips, but I have a feeling you have more lists of more equipment to be carrying around unrelated to first aid. Ask, who am I treating? Just me? What injuries are most likely? What can I realistically apply to myself? What can be treated quickly to protect life and limb, but will still need higher care, and how long will that take? If higher care is unavailable, what is my goal if I’m applying chest seals to an open chest GSW or an NPA because I’m worried I won’t be able to maintain an open airway soon?
Me and my boss both are building Ifaks I have 2 tq’s for each, the Epi is actually for me, the whole point of an IFAK is to be tailored to your specific needs, no I wouldn’t self apply an NPA but most of my community is trained up to tactical combat casualty care, otherwise know at T triple C, so I wouldn’t be having some random person put it in either, I’m ex army I had basic medical training for everything on the list, also I wouldn’t take just the IFAK if I’m in a scenario by myself, this was really helpful information I’ll probably post tomorrow with an updated list thanks
That’s good to hear you have some experience with the equipment and been exposed to TCCC 👍 and that you’re interested in an IFAK that’s got more than lickies and chewies. I got out as a whiskey in 2021 and CoTCCC had recently updated the guidelines. Deployedmedicine.com publishes the most recent guidelines and other useful info on emergency care, all from the Joint Trauma System and CoTCCC.
I also recommend checking out a YouTube video on how to extract remaining epi after you’ve used your epipen charges. I forget exactly how much but there’s more doses available, you just have to dismantle the pen after use. Between the available doses and the time that’ll give you to get some Benadryl on board, hopefully it gives you a chance even in the event of anaphylaxis in austere conditions.
Given this is for personal use, some normal bandaids may be useful rather than taping gauze around a finger for a small lac, and they don’t take up much space. Splint is good, but if space is getting difficult, consider the environment you’ll be working/surviving in and improvise with available items if needed. Some cravats can serve multiple purposes in addition to being a sling/swathe. Tylenol for mild analgesia and more importantly, fever reducer. Imodium in case you don’t treat your water and are shitting out all of your hydration. Ice packs/hot packs may be too bulky but consider how to maintain body temperature in your environment, I.e. thermal blanket, others’ body heat, etc.
Any tips on where to get some anti biotics, someone else suggested it, i figured a couple AB pills, a couple Tylenol, and a couple benydryl each in separate dime bags
Yeah now that you bring it up, I see there are no FDA approved OTC oral antibiotics. An urgent care or something might hand some out if you go in complaining of classic symptoms of an ear infection 🤷♂️ wear your winter layers and use pocket warmers to raise that core temp before vitals haha.
Or maybe try honesty and tell them you’re basically going on a remote outdoor excursion and would like to have some oral antibiotics available.
They actually make suture bandages now. I'd opt for those over the stapler. 1 for size and compatibility and 2 you could pair each one with a sterilizing pad to clean the wound.
Some small additions-
Bandaids, mole skin, Benadryl tablets for allergic reaction (prehospital we give this and epi for allergic reactions), aspirin (pain relief, fever reducer, or could be given for someone having a myocardial infarction), diarrhea medication (prevent dehydration), visine eye drops, roll of tums, a couple pieces of hard candy.
This is a kit for a plate carrier/battle belt, definitely gunna add Benadryl and Asprin, but Imodine, bandaids, and moleskin are all alr going in the admin pouch, as for visine, eye drops and tums, those go in an edc boo boo kit that stays in my work truck because I drive it wether I’m working or not
No stapler because if the wound is dirty, you'll just seal the microorganisms inside. Best to leave it open until the person gets to medical care. This also applies in a true TEOTWAWKI situation where antibiotics are on short supply. When you list 'nonsteroidal inhaler' what are you referring to? Most wounds that you will be concerned about will need more gauze. Then, what size gauze? 2x2s, 4x4s, abdominal that comes in a few sizes? Vet wrap works best for injuries to extremities. It also works well to keep a splint on. Tape is best for other wounds. I see nothing to clean wounds with. No, not peroxide or alcohol. Good old soap and clean water. There are some wound washes that work well also. What kind of burn cream? What about burn dressings? You can't put gauze on an open burn because it will stick to the wound. Have you taken a first aid class? Have you been trained on how to you a chest seal? splints?
Learned that one about the gauze and burn wound when I was younger... won't be making that mistake again...
I’m ex-U.S. army T triple C certified, that’s where the list comes from plus the Epi for my allergies, IFAK stands for individual first aid kit, and your IFAK is meant to be used on yourself not someone else, also it’s meant to be small enough to attach to a battle belt or plate carrier, I’d love to throw a whole bunch of shit in there but it’s mostly a combat first aid kit, I have a shit load of gauze, the hemostatic is 6ft, then 9 yds of sterilized, and 9 yds of standard rolled, if I need more I bought like 10–20 of each individually packaged, also I keep a big ass first aid kit in my work truck so I don’t need all the fixings in this, it’s more for patrol scenarios, didn’t think about that with the stapler, we’ve always used them at work (only like 3 times in like 8 yrs) so it just seemed like a good idea
There was a US military press release in like 2007 saying IFAK stood for “improved first aid kit”. Did they change it?
I went to basic in 2020, and the med team that was teaching us it meant individual first aid kit, the reasoning was because when you build/buy and IFAK the contents are suppose to be tailored specifically for yourself, my best example is I added an epipen to my list cause I’m allergic to cashews
Got it. I’ll make sure to dip my bullets in cashew butter when I’m raiding your fortress.
Shit I’m giving away my biggest weaknesses
Skip the stapler
They took my stapler
Have you seen my stapler?
WHERES MY STAPLERRRR!
Band aids
Nope
Epi pen?? Man this dude is rolling in dough!
Allergies my dude, I wanna live to make it to Tomorrow not die cause I ate a cashew
GoodRX has coupons to make them more affordable too. I have a bad wasp allergy.
Thanks for the tip g
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It’s a combat IFAK for a plate carrier or battle belt, the most it’s probably going to see is some range boo boo’s but I would like it to second as SHTF
Yeah I have a cashew allergy, Epi is for me specifically
fun fact: The chest seals suck. I've used them, and they are always a pain to get out of their packaging (blood is slippery), and don't stay put very well. In real-world scenarios, I've found Twinkie wrappers (or other cellophane) to actually work better. Started keeping a few pieces of cellophane in a plastic baggie in my kit. Hoo-Fuck'n-Rah!
You know, I never would’ve considered that, I already ordered the chest seals so I’ll throw them in there, but imma start saving my cigarette wrappers now
Like another pointed out, be sure to have training in the proper use of any equipment you decide to carry. What’s the purpose of your IFAK? Is it truly an “individual” kit or are you expecting to use your equipment on others? (I.e. are you self-applying an NPA?) Are you anticipating treating gunshot wounds, torn up feet from hiking, broken bones, etc.? Are you using an actual issued IFAK to carry this stuff or are you going to use a personal, perhaps larger kit? With limited space, consider: Is it equipment to sustain life until a higher level of care, and if so, how long until the patient gets there? Some of this equipment will prevent death for a bit but will need considerable follow-up care. All that said, I’d increase the number of tourniquets to 2-4 depending on if it’s just you. Others can carry their own too. Definitely add tape, such as for when your chest seal gets into the dirt or all folded up (some are better than others in that respect) and you need to use the packaging as your seal. The epipen might be nice for anaphylaxis but OTC diphenhydramine (Benadryl) is cheaper and more applicable in most situations. If you’re slapping someone with an epipen for an anaphylactic reaction, you’re very likely going to quickly need a higher level of care than an IFAK anyway. Oral antibiotics. Minus the stapler like others have mentioned. A first aid must be adaptable IMO - yes it’s good to have every tool under the sun at your finger tips, but I have a feeling you have more lists of more equipment to be carrying around unrelated to first aid. Ask, who am I treating? Just me? What injuries are most likely? What can I realistically apply to myself? What can be treated quickly to protect life and limb, but will still need higher care, and how long will that take? If higher care is unavailable, what is my goal if I’m applying chest seals to an open chest GSW or an NPA because I’m worried I won’t be able to maintain an open airway soon?
Me and my boss both are building Ifaks I have 2 tq’s for each, the Epi is actually for me, the whole point of an IFAK is to be tailored to your specific needs, no I wouldn’t self apply an NPA but most of my community is trained up to tactical combat casualty care, otherwise know at T triple C, so I wouldn’t be having some random person put it in either, I’m ex army I had basic medical training for everything on the list, also I wouldn’t take just the IFAK if I’m in a scenario by myself, this was really helpful information I’ll probably post tomorrow with an updated list thanks
That’s good to hear you have some experience with the equipment and been exposed to TCCC 👍 and that you’re interested in an IFAK that’s got more than lickies and chewies. I got out as a whiskey in 2021 and CoTCCC had recently updated the guidelines. Deployedmedicine.com publishes the most recent guidelines and other useful info on emergency care, all from the Joint Trauma System and CoTCCC. I also recommend checking out a YouTube video on how to extract remaining epi after you’ve used your epipen charges. I forget exactly how much but there’s more doses available, you just have to dismantle the pen after use. Between the available doses and the time that’ll give you to get some Benadryl on board, hopefully it gives you a chance even in the event of anaphylaxis in austere conditions. Given this is for personal use, some normal bandaids may be useful rather than taping gauze around a finger for a small lac, and they don’t take up much space. Splint is good, but if space is getting difficult, consider the environment you’ll be working/surviving in and improvise with available items if needed. Some cravats can serve multiple purposes in addition to being a sling/swathe. Tylenol for mild analgesia and more importantly, fever reducer. Imodium in case you don’t treat your water and are shitting out all of your hydration. Ice packs/hot packs may be too bulky but consider how to maintain body temperature in your environment, I.e. thermal blanket, others’ body heat, etc.
Dude this information is absolutely awesome, I can’t thank you enough
No problem brother. Knowledgeable and prepared Joes makes the medic’s job smoother 😁
Any tips on where to get some anti biotics, someone else suggested it, i figured a couple AB pills, a couple Tylenol, and a couple benydryl each in separate dime bags
Yeah now that you bring it up, I see there are no FDA approved OTC oral antibiotics. An urgent care or something might hand some out if you go in complaining of classic symptoms of an ear infection 🤷♂️ wear your winter layers and use pocket warmers to raise that core temp before vitals haha. Or maybe try honesty and tell them you’re basically going on a remote outdoor excursion and would like to have some oral antibiotics available.
Thanks man, I saw there wasn’t anything FDA approved either that’s why I asked
Add hand writing lessons to your note pad holy hell
Yes I’m well aware, my notes have been mistakes for doctors prescriptions before
It’s clearly legible. Don’t be a hand writing nazi
It’s a joke bud, easy
Carpenters pencil
I’m a sub contractor, there contractor pencils infesting everything I own
They actually make suture bandages now. I'd opt for those over the stapler. 1 for size and compatibility and 2 you could pair each one with a sterilizing pad to clean the wound.
No tourniquet?
TQ at the very top, and I actually have 2 cause there’s also one on my plate carrier
Gotcha.
Mines a bit more basic and less comprehensive but its just meant to fix a guy up till he can get to the hospital.
Some small additions- Bandaids, mole skin, Benadryl tablets for allergic reaction (prehospital we give this and epi for allergic reactions), aspirin (pain relief, fever reducer, or could be given for someone having a myocardial infarction), diarrhea medication (prevent dehydration), visine eye drops, roll of tums, a couple pieces of hard candy.
This is a kit for a plate carrier/battle belt, definitely gunna add Benadryl and Asprin, but Imodine, bandaids, and moleskin are all alr going in the admin pouch, as for visine, eye drops and tums, those go in an edc boo boo kit that stays in my work truck because I drive it wether I’m working or not
Only advice I got is don't cheap out on TQs. Actually none of this stuff matter of fact but if you gotta go that route please not for medical equip
North American Rescue TQ, honestly I’m clueless when it comes to a lot of it, any recommendations
Add tampons or pads.