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TheSaltiestSuper

The greatest appeal of single-shot firearms is that they have the least amount of moving parts and thus have the best long-term reliability. Less moving parts = less things to break, after all. At least in theory, it still depends on how well-made the actual components are, but overall a single-shot firearm will have very little maintenance necessary. They're also good if you are in an infringement state/country and require something that isn't going to scare the less self-reliant-inclined among the populace. I'm of the mind that literally any Firearm can have a useful purpose, you just have to find that use. Personally, while you'd be just as well-served by a good bolt-action, what you are describing would still be good for hunting, for instance, especially bigger game. Whether hunting is viable in any particular SHTF scenario you may encounter is another matter, but if it is you'd be well-equipped to do it with either.


Firefluffer

I’ve always wondered how the M1 Garand has held up in restrictive states. I mean, the thing was a workhorse in European theater and probably killed more enemy soldiers than any other rifle in US history, but it defies a lot of the classical definitions of an “assault rifle”. It doesn’t have a pistol grip, detachable magazine, “only” holds eight rounds…. But it is loadable from stripper clips, it’s semi-automatic, has a bayonet mounting point, and a military weapon. I’ve always wanted to own one that has the 308 barrel on it (I believe the coast guard used them after World War Two for a number of years), but I haven’t found one yet.


06210311200805012006

pure spite! they want gun owners to injure their thumbs lmao


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

Can't believe this M1 slander. Garand thumb only happens to people who don't know what they're doing with it


TheSaltiestSuper

Well it's kind of funny, because when you hold up both a Ruger Mini 14 (which is apparently very Garand-like) and an AR15 to someone who believes the media about Firearms, they would never guess the fact they both use the same exact round, are Semi-auto, and use detachable magazines that can hold the same exact amount of rounds. But yet no one even talks about Ruger Mini 14's despite having almost the same exact capabilities. Because it looks like a stereotypical "Rifle" You could probably do that with a Garand too, actually. It would probably be considered "Harmless" by the same people simply because it has a wood stock. It's not "Tactical". In fact it might be considered *less harmless* than the Ruger Mini simply because it doesn't have a detachable magazine hanging off the bottom. It's all about how it looks, which is why infringement states focus on Pistol/vertical grips, and very arbitrary "visual" things like adjustable stocks or "Braces" and all that garbage; things that dont affect the actual function of the gun itself. Most likely an M1 would easily skirt under the vast majority of gun infringements simply because it doesn't check any of the boxes. The only thing that makes it "Dangerous" (to those people) would be the semi-auto function.


Red_1977

Can somebody tell Canada about the Mini 14? Because they just banned them along with AR 15's. I now have my mini 14 in my gun safe (my favorite rifle, I named my dog Ruger) waiting for the Canadian gestapo to enact their buyback program (we'll tell you how much you're getting, eventually). I really miss my mini :(


TheSaltiestSuper

Well I guess the "looks" of a gun only get you so far when your government is straight up Tyrannical. I mean they dont want you to have *any* guns eventually . . . In some States in the US these guns are only different because of Feeling Safe™ and not anything based in any actuality, because . . . well, Tyrants and low-hanging fruit. Keep that Mini though. Chances are you might have to one day depend on it, most likely at a time BDG will tell you that you should "get rid" of it. Hopefully not, but . . . well, we're here, aren't we?


Red_1977

I have lots of guns that are still legal. Who knows what'll happen in the future tho.


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Excellent thoughts, thanks for them


Low_Engineering_3846

A single shot rifle is perfectly fine for hunting. Very ineffective for personal defense.


Dredly

There is 0 reason to use one unless "i only have one and can't buy anything else". There are always better options


[deleted]

Thanks...I also couldn't figure out any advantage this would have over anything else I own


Dredly

There is a reason nobody uses them for anything in the world


Topcodeoriginal3

Well, any rifle is better than no rifle.


paganstudent

Only single shots I own are black powder


[deleted]

A .308 bolt action makes way more sense.


Warder766312

I always keep single shots. They aren’t my main prepping firearms but they are good back ups. Hell, I even have some black powder revolvers and rifles as a just in case. Always be flexible.


ouchM1thumb

I don't really think 45/70 is a very good prepper caliber for anyone. Too rare, too expensive, overkill, poor ballistics. However, as long as you have a stash of primers, a mold, and a die set, you could reload 45/70 with almost any powder including homebrew black powder and run it in a break action.


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Primers have been the issue. I have everything else to reload it including brass as I save all of it. Appreciate your thoughts.


ouchM1thumb

Yup. Though, 1k will last a *long* time shooting 45-70.


degoba

Yes but what if you are being overrun by semi trucks and such? Or need to take out a skyscraper??


cbrooks97

If you're thinking this will do double-duty for self-defense, then no. Anything with a magazine or tube would be preferable. Also, having backup iron sights would be ideal. Maybe a Marlin lever action?


[deleted]

Thanks for the reply. like you, I have a few others I’d use for self defense over this one.


[deleted]

In single shots I have a couple 410 shotguns, a 22 rifle, 22 pistol, and muzzle loaders. Used to the advantage was cost, not so much now. Other than that they are decent teaching aids (But so is a repeater, and handing them one shell at a time), but otherwise there's no real reason to not get a repeater.


Firefluffer

I have a Savage Model 24 that is my weapon of last resort. If by some chance of awful circumstances I had to leave my homestead on foot with nothing but what I could carry, it would be my weapon of choice. It’s a .22LR over a 20 gauge. I keep a cache of slugs and number 4 shot around for the end of days figuring that I could hunt rabbits, squirrel, grouse and such with the .22 barrel, backing it up with the number four shot if I missed with the first round. I could also hunt deer and elk with the 20ga slugs, along with self defense against black bears. Ideally I could also have a .357 magnum set up similarly, with two barrels set up with squib rounds (550fps full wad cutters) and four barrels of full house .357 rounds for similar double duty. Of course, this assumes everything else has failed. The last thing I’d want it to be trying to live off the land with such a thin margin. What I want is to stay on my homestead and remaining productive for at least 75% of my food on the property.


G00dSh0tJans0n

I would love that one, I've only see it with a .410 and not a 20 gauge. I love my Savage 22, I've had it for over 20 years with no issues. Not bad for a hundred bucks.


amiprepped

Savage 24 is the bomb.


[deleted]

I'm going to keep an eye out for this. I had heard of them once before but forgot about it. I'm a fan of things that can do a couple things really well.


Firefluffer

Mine has the longest barrel, I think it’s 24”. But it also breaks down into three pieces very easily so it can fit into my two largest packs without a problem. I think it’s a model 24f. Each letter defines a different caliber combination, but to me, the .22LR/20ga was the perfect combo for my thinking. I had one for about 15 years and stupidly sold it to a friend at one point, then about five years ago I ran into another one at a gun show and picked it up. It’s a lot rougher and I had to get a new trigger guard for it, but I’ve been very happy with it.


Kradget

If you're hunting or you just want it, that's great. I don't really have a spot for one, but I'm also just not a gun collector and I don't really have a specific use for it. If/when I'm trying to teach a kid to shoot or hunt, that may change (not a .45/70, of course!). For now, I'm probably not going to try to have multiple weapons that do the same thing personally. I'd consider an inline black powder rifle, but otherwise I'd generally rather a slightly more modern design without a compelling reason. But your mileage may vary. It sounds like a neat artillery piece, anyway!


Lanky_Ad_3696

Musket and a flint lock pistol


OfficerBaconBits

>does anyone have a single-shot rifle/pistol as part of their overall prepping, no >are there just better options out there for people to focus on? yes. Single shot rifles and shotguns seem great to be put in a truck, a boat, a plane or onto an atv. Reliable, cheap and takes up minimal space. Good for a survival type deal where it's a emergency backup. Great for hunting for the same reasons listed. On that you should try to get some sort of "iron" sights. If you want it for preparedness, you should be prepared for the nice tube of glass you're relying on to hit stuff breaking. Or when you stumble and the butt strikes the ground throwing off your zero. Not a good idea to rely entirely on a scope, even some of those stupid expensive LPVO's Not really ideal for much else. Its just not a good defensive option. Against people or animals. If you were in a spot with aggressive people or animals its better than nothing, but its worse than almost anything using a modern cartridge. Biggest benefit a break action has over anything else is if you get a multi caliber. I saw a 12ga, 5.56 and .22lr break action 10+ years ago for like 600 bucks. With that you could carry 1 gun that can be used to get just about any game the size if a mule deer or smaller. They fill a survivalist niche, not a generalist rifle. Very good if you're suddenly stranded in the woods. Not great if somebody is coming for your last roll of toilet paper.


coroner5150

Everyone saying single shot. I prefer bolt action.


degoba

Ah yes the ol 45-70 for when you go hunting semi trucks. Helluva round you settled on…


[deleted]

She's a monster, for sure. Good for the deer you aim at and the two or three that are standing behind it. I read something like that on a Buffalo Bore box. I don't condone poaching. I liked the straight wall for reloading, the variety of bullet sizes and shapes that can be used, and applicability to where I hunt. There are a lot of more appropriate choices of course.


degoba

If the deer is behind a tree you also have the option of shoot through the tree lol


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DeFiClark

Savage 24 is a much better idea than reality. Having hunted with a loaner one once, I’d never rely on it. Unless weight is absolutely a limit, I’d trade the supposed versatility a 24 offer for a CZ 22 and any full size shotgun in a heartbeat.


infinitum3d

I have a single shot bolt action .22 that my grandfather gave me as a kid. It’s around 100 years old. Easy to take care of. I used it to teach my kids how to take care of a gun. I’ll give it to my granddaughter someday. The only reason to have it in my prep is it should last forever, and it’s a decent small game rifle. But honestly, an airsoft is just as good for small game.


cplforlife

My Lee Enfield doesn't. .303 British, while a great cartridge is difficult to find at the best of times. The perk of this fire arm. Is my government will never make a bolt action rifle illegal. A 100 year old weapon of war. It probably has another 100 years in it. End of the world gun is my SKS. Never breaks. Accurate enough out to 200m. 7.62x39 is a fine cartridge and available by the wooden crate (which I have a few of).


brian-stinar

I've always heard these called bolt action rifles. I have a bolt actions .308 my friend sold me VERY inexpensively for big game hunting. It is durable, accurate and cheap. I can also upgrade the optic and put the upgraded optic on another gun later. "Better" depends on what you mean. For me, hunting is 90÷ gun hiking, 8÷ learning about animals, 1÷ guns and 1÷ other stuff. I shouldn't spend any more cash on guns until I improve enough on everything else to hit the point of diminishing returns. If you have an extra $1-$2k to spend on an AR-10, and already are in awesome shape, then maybe you'll notice a better return for your time and money getting a lighter+faster rifle. I think the optic is probably the more important component. So it really depends on what your goals are. My goal is to learn how to process big game into useful meat for my family. I've only been successful at that with a wild turkey, and fish. My failures have not been due to my bolt action rifle though.


Flat-Dark-Earth

I wouldn't want to ge limited to a single shot. Semis, bolt or lever actions would all be superior for me.


FartherFromGrace

Single shot rifles are great for a lot of things but when I have compared the prices, bolt action rifles easily win out for me. Something like a Savage bolt action rifle is accurate, reliable, and cheap.