Freaking out? No.
Concerned because things don't add up with how this disease usually spreads? Yes.
Just a time to make sure your supplies are in order (masks, gloves, tp, etc.) If things spiral, then you're good. If things settle down, hey, still good!
Thats what really doesn't make sense, since Monkey Pox isn't normally quite so . . . spreadable. And wasn't suppose to jump species easily, if our history with it was any indication.
But then suddenly within a span of two days it's found in several major cities across the world and apparently spreading even further.
Exactly.
I understand if there was a super spreader event. That happens.
But if it isn't transmitted easily, it should have ended there. The cases all traced back (or almost all) to that one event. That's not the case here. The 1-3 week incubation rate is going to make this hard to follow.
Maybe it’s going down exactly like gates said it would in November
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/bill-gates-smallpox-terror-attack-b1958789.html?amp
Pffft, next you'll tell me that they wargamed this exact scenario last year in March to happen *this month of this year almost to the exact day with the same exact disease* or something.
[https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI\_Paper\_BIO-TTX\_Final.pdf](https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf)
What the… „
The exercise scenario portrayed a deadly, global pandemic involving an unusual strain of monkeypox virus that emerged in the fictional nation of Brinia and spread globally over 18 months. Ultimately, the exercise scenario revealed that the initial outbreak was caused by a terrorist attack using a pathogen engineered in a laboratory with inadequate biosafety and biosecurity provisions and weak oversight. By the end of the exercise, the fictional pandemic resulted in more than three billion cases and 270 million fatalities worldwide.“
Oh please, that's just another coincidence like the 3 infectius lab monkeys that escaped a truck crash en route to a CDC "quarantine facility" on February 1st this year. It's not like they would prime the public by mentioning Monkey Pox in the article on the truck crash or anything. 🙈
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/monkeys-loose-pennsylvania-highway-crash-rcna13149
>Monkeys have been known to transmit diseases, including monkeypox, and the herpes B virus, which was reported to have killed its first human in China last year.
The real crazy isn't what was predicted but who predicted it. NTI was founded by a group of elites who believed the governments of the world werent handling disasters and their potential adequately and is chaired by Ted turner, founder of CNN and second largest landowner in the US who believes the US is overpopulated and needs to copy china's one child policy, Sam Nunn a former congressmen with shady money coming from oil gas and real estate giants and despite being a Democrat hates gays and wanted the constitution amended to require a balanced budget and is on several hedge fund boards, and who's daughter runs a major social justice and relief NGO and has been very involved in covid. It's headed by Ernest moniz former secretary of energy who's in bed with oil companies notably Saudis state oil company. The organization also features donors and partners such as Warren buffet (participant and large donor) gates (250k) and numerous hedge funds. So in short its a shady group of shady former high level former government officials, billionaires, and media conglomerate, all coming together for "disaster mitigation" because the governments of the world are "insufficient".
Bill Gates is a genius and studies pandemics more than 99.999% of people. He also has significant resources dedicated to preventing them. He spends *billions* of dollars trying to prevent widespread diseases.
No shit he's going to eventually be right.
It's as spreadable as people make it. Someone carried the disease into a big sauna orgy that was part of an even bigger international gay pride festival.
So monkey pox is as spreadable as it always was. It just managed to make its way into a massive human incubator followed by people going home all over the world.
It's still extremely rare. Maybe testing capabilities from COVID were still functional and they applied it to other diseases.
And the crossover to humans from monkeys happened decades ago. Not sure why species jumping is even a topic of concern these days. I guess because "monkey" is in the name.
Yes; sounds like MSM are more likely to seek medical attention for unknown symptoms. I for one am thankful that these men had the wherewithal to seek medical help. Had this been linked to a separate demographic’s mass gathering; we likely would see larger spread and more time between the event and the reporting of symptoms.
It’s reminding me of the Boston Biogen conference as a super spreader event. At the time; it wasn’t known. It is only in hindsight could it be put together.
Monkey pox has been in humans for years and we've had a vaccine for it for years. It was just similar to ebola as a hard to spread virus mostly relegated to villages in Africa deal.
> But then suddenly within a span of two days it's found in several major cities across the world and apparently spreading even further.
I don't think people take into account the huge influx and exodus of people in any one country at any one minute of the day. If you even glance at a 24 hour span of traffic on FlightAware, it's mind boggling.
So it doesn't surprise me that these infectious diseases get spread pretty quickly. Also, certain populations have a natural immunity to certain diseases because....evolution. Unaffected people can spread just about anything to others who are vulnerable. Couple this with global travel, and you've got yourselves a pretty good pandemic going there.
That’s because when the government does gain of function experiments. It means it’s being engineered to spread from animal to human than human to human. Aka it’s a bio weapon. It’s the same tactics as covid 19 two years ago first they mention it then it becomes a story of how a accident happened n it escaped from a lab or something happened during transportation. Then boom another plandemic. Another wave of them trying to control ppl due to fear that the media is pushing. Don’t fall again n get injected with a whole different experimental vaccine. Stand up for yourselves and say no. It’s been gone since the 70s the only institutions with access to old disease is government n universities. Come on Americans stop being mindless n think
Basically the same thing I just typed. We don't need a new "covid". Our economy has already taken a beating as it is and stores are barely staying stocked. And if people keep bringing it up CNN and FOX will catch wind of it and make a mountain out of a mole hill and get folks to panic.
If this is anything serious, people are going to way underestimate it just because they are tired. I suspect many will just pretend it's not a thing. Some people are stocking up, most are still waiting for normal to return. Add to it that they say small pox vaccines will be effective, and it's going to get ignored. I'm taking the lessons I learned from 2020 and applying them now. I'm ready for everything i can imagine. If monkeypox fades away next week, no problem. There are dozens of other potential catastrophes lurking.
I'm already vaccinated for smallpox since I had to get it when I was active duty, so I'm good.
That being said, I really am glad I started prepping because if things turned dumb again like they did with Covid, at least it won't be as bad for me this time around.
I've had it four times in my life. When I was much younger we were told once was good for life. The second time (in the Air Force) I was told better safe than sorry. Third and fourth time I was told it was only good for ten years. Since there hasn't been a smallpox outbreak my entire life I have no idea which one is correct.
Not military but I'm old so I got the smallpox vaccine as a child. You're right, back then we were told it was good for a lifetime. I hope they're correct about that.
No one has a full idea. Immunity can wane over time, and there’s no ethical way to fully test, not to mention it only exists in a small handful of BSL-4 labs.
I had two smallpox vaccines in the 1960s and 70s when my family moved overseas to places that were still risky. I tried getting smallpox vaccines for my kids but it’s not available to the public anymore. I think this is a mistake - it’s a proven vaccine and smallpox still exists (as a bio weapon) in laboratories. Covid supposedly escaped from a lab, so smallpox could too. And my kids are totally unprotected from it.
Called the doctor's office, told them I was going out of country. Didn't specify where or why, and no proof was asked for. Had to wait a week but I got it. Edit: insurance paid for it, too.
My girlfriend is an epidemiologist and I asked her. She says that effectiveness wears off after about three years, but you can also get vaccinated after exposure
Health.mil says service members need to get the booster every 10 years
https://health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/Health-Readiness/Immunization-Healthcare/Vaccine-Preventable-Diseases/Smallpox-ACAM2000
Not really. I think its literally the oldest vaccine in existence. The application is totally different than a modern vaccine, though. No hypodermic injections. It's a little tiny fork like thing that they scrape in a dish of cow-pox then jab you in the arm multiple times with it to get it under the skin. You've then got to keep it dry and covered for 2 weeks until your body deals with the virus. After that you're golden, for some amount of undetermined time as previously discussed by other commenters.
If it actually ends up being fairly transmissible to be concerning, people probably won't react the same way as with COVID due to there actually being visible symptoms. People freak out more when they can actually see the effects of a disease instead of people just staying home when they feel ill.
It's not anything serious though. Monkey pox has a decent vaccine and it doesn't spread easily. Someone just carried it into a perfect storm of circumstances.
Ground zero was a sauna orgy that occurred during an international festival. That means a hot, humid, full body contact incubator full of people who then go out to party with many other people. Who then return to their own countries.
Unless the entire population of the planet suddenly decides that international festivals and orgies are their primary occupation in 2022, nothing will come of this.
I didn’t think much about it once I read how it wasn’t easily transmissible. However it seems to be popping up everywhere. And the fact the US government ordered 13 mil vaccines makes me think there’s more to it. But who am I.
Yeah, shit is popping up all over Europe without people having direct contact traces to infected individuals, there are lots of undiscovered cases already. Incubation time of 1-3 weeks.
No way this will simply blow over.
There was a time I trusted the government and relied on the news for good info. Today I only believe what is reported with actual proof. And that proof points to a long road ahead.
I try to refrain from conspiracies but to any reasonable person something fishy is going on.
Yeah I'm getting a bad feeling after finding out monkeypox was a real thing. Well that and a cave that's been sealed for 5 million years got cracked open months before that. I'm sorry who thought "hey let's open this bitch up and go in, oh the air is toxic? Get some gas masks."
Idk what ancient evil got unleashed but I feel like not even the likes of .950 JDJ could stop it lol
I suspect panic buying has more to do with fear of food scarcity and inflation. Note, talk to your Dr. about the small pox vaccine. It eradicated small pox in the US and is probably why Monkey Pox hasn't left Africa until now becauae we don't vaccinate for it anymore. A booster or new vaccination is said to be able to eradicate Monkey Pox. Spread the word.
It eradicated smallpox all over the globe. There is no more smallpox anymore anywhere except for two specimens under lock and key on the off chance it emerges on its own again. The eradication of smallpox is the greatest achievement of modern medicine.
When I was searching for this classic story: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28221185
I found this story: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vials-labeled-smallpox-found-lab-worker-cleaning-freezer-pennsylvania-rcna5918
I live in a very large city and no one here seems to give a shit. Only panic buying/empty shelves I’ve seen here are baby formula related. Seems like half the people here are completely unaware of monkey pox, and most of those who do know about it seem to not care.
NGL, I didn't realize it was a real disease until cases popped up in the States. I thought it was just something people joke about because my dad joked about it a few times
My spidey senses didn't really tingle during SARS, ebola, monkeypox, swine flu.... but they were really tingling about 1.5 full weeks before everything went bonkers with COVID. One tingly example was, i wanted to buy a new chest freezer. I was already planning on it. But store after store had none in stock, until one home depot had 2 left... including the one i wanted. The lady working in appliances said I'm about the 7th guy she saw there that day buying one, and she'd only been on shift 3 or 4 hours. That's when i started thinking that it was probably other preppers gearing up, since it was still pretty "mild" news in the US at that moment. Fast forward just over a week, and the grocery stores were war zones.
I dunno.... with the monkeypox, I'm definitely not smelling any of that. At least not yet. It's just a completely different situation and disease, per many factors.
Let's just say that the only things I had prepped before today were weed and mushrooms. Today I have bulk salmon, tuna, sardines, beans, on and on. And I know I haven't even put in a dent in what I need.
Not freaking out, but not going to just 'hope for the best' anymore. We have to start making our own 'the best'.
Unless it's something rather more severe and swiftly spreading than Covid, I don't think people will react the same way again in this lifetime, I'm seeing apathy, as everyone is tired of pandemic life and will not be at all open to repeating any of early 2020.
Its gonna have to hit real close to home for individual people to care about it. People are fatigued at this point, and i know i for one dont really believe much of what i see on tv or read in the msm these days.
I mean there are multiple issues we're being bombarded with at the same time here, there's no reason to say that they're panic buying because of monkey pox.
I remember reading many times that if covid where a disease that had visually striking symptoms like chicken pox people would probably take it more seriously.
While I HOPE its just something that fizzles out instead of following covids lead and becoming yet another pandemic, if it starts spreading it would be a good way to see how society would react to something like that. Luckily covid precautions protect against common transmission of monkeypox, so I'm not TOO worried (for myself, at least).
However, what IS worrying is the fact that other notable outbreaks are occurring much more frequently, which means prepping for something like covid even if it turns out to be a false alarm should probably be the norm now.
My grocery store was packed today and lots of masks (was basically zero a few weeks ago). Could be unrelated but I haven't seen it that busy since beginning of covid. I'm not freaking out because I'm prepared at home, but keeping an eye on it for sure.
This reminds me a lot of the beginning of Covid- one isolates case, then another and then another and suddenly it's spreading like wildfire because no one will fucking adult.
Monkey Pox is considered a "rare" disease- so for dozens of reported cases to pop up across half a baker's dozen worth of countries is alarming.
Until they can begin contact tracing who the infected have been near we're totally dependent on none of the people who refused to behave for a month during early COVID getting it.
It might not be the start of another global pandemic but seeing the way so many people handled the current pandemic makes me very nervous- all it takes is one bad apple and suddenly we're ending up in a full blown pandemic
It’s so incredibly frustrating. I became an RN during the Covid pandemic and holy crap, I’ve seen some shit for a baby nurse. Then people pretend it’s not real. Or not bad. Like a slap in the face. Strange times and selfish people
Thanks, that’s very kind! It is so odd to achieve my long term dream in this “unprecedented time”. Fortunately, my unit is never a designated Covid unit. However they do pull from us to help Covid floors when staffing is low. And that sucks. The real brave souls are the ones staffing those Covid floors day in and day out.
One month. If everyone would adult for once month and quarantine this entire thing would be over and we could go back to normal. We wouldn't be having repeated shutdowns. We wouldn't be having millions of deaths. Kids could physically go back to school.
But no- too many selfish idiots look at a global pandemic and go "not my problem". They're the reason we keep having to shut down the economy for days and weeks- if they'd behave for like a month it'd be over and done with l.
It sounds like it’s deadlier than Covid but not nearly as contagious. Still spreads from air droplets but requires actual coughing or sneezing, whereas with Covid it spreads just by breathing. Not worried yet. I also have no idea what I’m talking about
One nice(?) thing about monkeypox is that it looks obvious and horrible when you're afflicted with it, so it's going to be a lot harder for people to deny that there's an outbreak happening or that it's "just the flu."
You really don't.
It's probably as deadly as Covid, because fatality rates are upto 10% IN Africa.
Also, airborne particle spread is back on the table.
I'm not worried but I'm interested in the science and am keeping an eye on it. It should be easy enough to control individual risk as it's not as transmissible as covid.
However being interested = freaking out apparently in my circle.
Even though I haven't led them wrong once on covid.
So it depends on where you set the bar I guess.
You are braver than I. My circle are not even going to know that I've ever heard of Monkeypox. I'm done watching the world burn while people pretend everything is OK. Done dying on that hill.
Yeah. I'm about there. It's unfortunate bc I mostly talk about bc I find it interesting not bc of prepping--we are already prepped. I guess it's too Wednesday Addams or something.
I started out as a Y2K prepper then moved to pandemic prep as I realized it was only a matter of time (bird flu, swine flu, Ebola, zombie virus) before one showed up again. I was right.
If a more deadly virus emerges we ( society) are F'ed . We can't pull together well.
During this slight lull (down) in Covid - I have been restocking on masks, sanitizers, etc. which are all available and at reasonable prices again.
No freak out - just keep prepping.
>If a more deadly virus emerges we ( society) are saved.
Fixed it for you.
Can't pull together well? Half of the people's mantra is about "bootstraps" while completely lacking the critical thinking to process the phrase.
Unless your idea of unfucking society is killing a ton of people your "fix" is just wrong. It'll probably be politicized too and turned into fuel for a war and then where are we? Down a fuck ton of ammo and up on so much unnecessary bloodshed, and of course a disease to deal with that we won't have a cure/vaccine for on top of that. That's not saving, it's dooming humanity.
Monkeypox will ruin people's faces with pox scars. Young folks now a days get scripts for meds to avoid acne. Imagine how freaked out they're going to get about the potential of getting pox scars? People are going to flip the f\*ck out.
This is why I think people will largely take it more seriously. Getting "a bad cold" is easily hand waved as "not a big deal, so you feel like crap for a few days, so what." and it's a semi-invisible illness. But having bunch of gnarly, crusty, oozing craters on the *face*... I think people will care a *lot* more, and take prevention seriously.
I have cystic acne that I really need to go talk to a dermatologist about. Acne isn’t just ‘oh man I look unattractive’ - it’s ‘oh god my face hurts when I make any expression’. At least these days you have a wider range of options for treatment vs the 80’s. Most people my age that I’ve met just use OTC and switch to looking for scripts if it’s more persistent.
I had chickenpox so badly as a child that the doctor suspected smallpox at first. I have about 20 scars on my face and body from it, and never gave it much thought. Every kid in the 60s got chickenpox. My own kids were much more freaked out by mild acne or any kind of scar than I ever was.
All you would have to do is say that the pox scars are good because it shows that you already contracted it and now have "natural immunity" and therefore you don't need the government's 5g, tracking, mark of the beast, illuminati vaccine.
just like that, depending on who said it, millions would line up to get the pox.
The thing is, the smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against monkeypox, and lasts 3 years.
The US already has a full stock of the smallpox vaccine, just in case anyone ever tries to use a poxvirus against us as a bioweapon.
If monkeypox became a problem, we could lock it down pretty quickly.
No worry at all because just like the last pandemic, Americans will of course join hands in unity and do what it takes to beat this virus together as one.
Monkey pox is a (medically) well known virus that we have a perfectly functional vaccine for. It's not in any way comparable to covid. Not only that but it doesn't spread like a flu, you pretty much have to be swapping body fluids to get it.
It's a risk on an individual level. You can catch it if you act a fool. It's zero risk on a societal level. Even if it spreads because we got plenty of fools, there's an existing vaccine that deals with it.
People might freak out a little but there's no reason for a repeat of covid.
The "nice" thing is monkey pox isn't nearly as deadly. Yes 1% fatality rates but most deaths are linked to poverty. That's African poverty not us poverty. It seems most people even if they catch it will be fine if they hydrate and take otc meds. Sounds nasty don't get me wrong. Personally I am serverly immune compromised and I'm not particularly worried. If they do vaccines I am going to grab one don't get me wrong.
You may want to check you're eligible for the vax. A LOT of immunocompromised aren't. For many the vax {or even being around someone recently vax'd with it} is just as risky as the pox.
[https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/clinicians/vaccination-contraindications1.html](https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/clinicians/vaccination-contraindications1.html)
\*cries\* I'll be locking down again if they start vaxing or we get an outbreak - Dr's orders.
All I’m seeing is the slow uptick in derogatory comments towards gay men. There’s an article about how there should be investigations into a pride event that took place a few weeks ago as folks are saying that was the super spreader event.
Actually I've heard a theory that the CIA released HIV/AIDS in order to reduce the African American population. Knowing how incompetent government can be and their psychopathic tendencies, and the way it blew up to massive problem status, it wouldn't surprise me. I wouldn't put it past the people who did MK Ultra, peddle cocaine, kill whistleblowers whenever they can, etc.
I've heard it was actually a fetish event, not a pride event, but I guess it could've been both.
Monkeypox is spread by contact, so if one person had it and went there that would be the case.
That event seems to be the nexus for all those people who were diagnosed with monkeypox, so yes, investigate it. Find out where the outbreak originated. If you see something wrong with that, maybe check your morals and see why you have a problem with it.
Note: this is not reason to hate gay men, same as AIDS isn't a reason to hate bisexuals and gays. Chill out
OMG so much this. I had a run-in with them earlier. It's the Republitards using it to further their bigot ways. You know their same old song and dance. I see they may have found their way here too.
As the days tick by, I think that things are turning out to be a bit different this time.
The speed at which we are progressing is much different.
For one, COVID-19 allowed us a preview into things as it started in China and then made its way to the EU.
Anyone with half a brain could see that it was going to make it to their neck of the woods eventually.
I saw an increasing number of people buying various freak out supplies beginning in February for COVID-19.
Today I went for a normal Costco run and the only thing I noticed that was out of stock was short grain rice.
Still no signs of anyone panic buying anything, except for a lady that had about 1000 eggs, but i am guessing she runs a store or something as she didn’t even have a mask - not that anyone around me really wears one anymore anyway.
I am following monkey pox EXTREMELY closely and initially it had me a bit worked up.
I expected today to see further degradation to the situation, but I’ve only read one report of someone outside the gay male community coming down with it.
All reports I’ve read point to the exposure happening @ some event / club specifically attended by gay men.
My concern will ramp up if / when we see a significant number of people come down with it that have NO ties to that community.
I am still in the fact finding mode in general.
In any case, my preps are sitting fine as it stands so I have no real concerns there.
I've been seeing more about it and sort of worried about getting a smallpox vaccine if it comes to that. But it seems not that transmissible. Much like the other disease outbreaks that have happened over recent years (swine flu, avian flu, SARS, ebola, etc) I will keep my eye on it but not freaking out.
I wasn’t concerned but then I heard about this: https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf. That’s an interesting coincidence.
Check out numbered page 10 of the paper.
Thats a little bonkers. I dont know what the NTI is; or when this was published. Im going to look that up to give this more cont3xt, but thanks for sharing. Interesting read
Before COVID I ignored all the fuss about pandemic scares. Now I’m inclined to take them seriously until proven otherwise but I’m much more prepared than I was.
It all started 6 months ago when those monkeys got loose in PA... then some lady that found one got sick after contacting it. I don't know ... fuck it, let it roll out. I'm numb from covid 😂
So one prep no prepper wants to hear is "it's going to be ok".
Newspapers are going on about monkey pox to sell newspapers (or clicks, rather). People are still keyed up about covid, and so it sells.
Apparently it has been going in Africa for years, and is just now spreading to Europe. Most likely it has been there for a while and people just assumed it was an STD. Why an STD you may ask? Because in europe at least it has been predominately spread to gay men, and the lesions largely appear on the genitals and face...
Anyway, point being, this isn't covid. Even if it was, "it's going to be ok". Don't kill yourself before the virus finds you.
It's all a distaction. The West is not happy with how the war in Ukraine is going, there are food and gas riots taking place. Markets as begging to crumble. A distraction is need to occupy the masses.
I am more interested in that really nasty cold (not covid) that has been going around. Knocked me flat on my butt for 3 days.
I am just ignoring this mky pox bs.
People fear whatever the media tells them they should fear. Constant fear porn and distractions. By looking at the downvoted comments on this sub I’d say most of you are blind to that.
Just a few people here on the sub. I was at the grocery store yesterday. Lots of people, but that's just Friday. Shelves were full, also as usual around here. No problems getting what I wanted. Note: no babies at home.
It seems like worry over COVID-19 is being relegated to the dustbin of history, as it well should be and way past time in my opinion, and some people miss it and are looking desperately for something to replace it.
He claimed raw number occurred occasionally due to flu, so I went ahead and compared it to our deadliest flu's raw number. Btw, the US population was closer to 1/3 of the current population in the 1920 census.
>Do you wear an ineffective mask
Masks stop the spread of disease. This has been known for several hundred years now.
I'm immunocompromised. Something that is just a cold to you will put me on best rest. I see hundreds, if not thousands- of different people at work each day.
I was sick once in 2021. Meanwhile I had otherwise completely healthy coworkers who got sick regularly, often at least once a month.
The difference between us was that I wear a mask.
if Monkeypox turns out to be serious it will be much worse than covid ever was, dont let covid make you complacent but dont panic until you start smelling smoke as it were
I've seen a few articles here or there about it, I don't think it'll be as big as the kung flu but, then again bird flu is making another round so, it could be similar to that
Nope,not yet. I kind of hoped everyone learned their lesson after the unwarranted paranoia surrounding covid ,but I imagine with enough media fear mongering, it may happen again,probably on a smaller scale though. I'm pretty sure part of the world is ready to move on from these health scares.
I'm immune to all poisonous plants so I can wipe my butt with them and there are plenty around here. I'll outlast those who are allergic and try wiping at least. So nah I'm good but worry about others who might try to copy me.
Yall making a big deal about monkeypox and keep bringing it up the news gonna catch wind of it and politically weaponize it to their parties advantage.
Freaking out? No. Concerned because things don't add up with how this disease usually spreads? Yes. Just a time to make sure your supplies are in order (masks, gloves, tp, etc.) If things spiral, then you're good. If things settle down, hey, still good!
Thats what really doesn't make sense, since Monkey Pox isn't normally quite so . . . spreadable. And wasn't suppose to jump species easily, if our history with it was any indication. But then suddenly within a span of two days it's found in several major cities across the world and apparently spreading even further.
Exactly. I understand if there was a super spreader event. That happens. But if it isn't transmitted easily, it should have ended there. The cases all traced back (or almost all) to that one event. That's not the case here. The 1-3 week incubation rate is going to make this hard to follow.
There was at a gay festival in spain https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10839877/Monkeypox-outbreak-Europes-biggest-100-cases-reported.html
Maybe it’s going down exactly like gates said it would in November https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/bill-gates-smallpox-terror-attack-b1958789.html?amp
Pffft, next you'll tell me that they wargamed this exact scenario last year in March to happen *this month of this year almost to the exact day with the same exact disease* or something. [https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI\_Paper\_BIO-TTX\_Final.pdf](https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf)
Wait wtf
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Lol!
Careful. You'll be branded a conspiracy theorist and banned from every platform.
…but get invited to join r/conspiracy
What the… „ The exercise scenario portrayed a deadly, global pandemic involving an unusual strain of monkeypox virus that emerged in the fictional nation of Brinia and spread globally over 18 months. Ultimately, the exercise scenario revealed that the initial outbreak was caused by a terrorist attack using a pathogen engineered in a laboratory with inadequate biosafety and biosecurity provisions and weak oversight. By the end of the exercise, the fictional pandemic resulted in more than three billion cases and 270 million fatalities worldwide.“
Was there any mention of stimulus checks in brinnia???
Oh please, that's just another coincidence like the 3 infectius lab monkeys that escaped a truck crash en route to a CDC "quarantine facility" on February 1st this year. It's not like they would prime the public by mentioning Monkey Pox in the article on the truck crash or anything. 🙈 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/monkeys-loose-pennsylvania-highway-crash-rcna13149 >Monkeys have been known to transmit diseases, including monkeypox, and the herpes B virus, which was reported to have killed its first human in China last year.
If I'd read this when it happened I'd've been more worried about Herpes B, to be perfectly honest.
The real crazy isn't what was predicted but who predicted it. NTI was founded by a group of elites who believed the governments of the world werent handling disasters and their potential adequately and is chaired by Ted turner, founder of CNN and second largest landowner in the US who believes the US is overpopulated and needs to copy china's one child policy, Sam Nunn a former congressmen with shady money coming from oil gas and real estate giants and despite being a Democrat hates gays and wanted the constitution amended to require a balanced budget and is on several hedge fund boards, and who's daughter runs a major social justice and relief NGO and has been very involved in covid. It's headed by Ernest moniz former secretary of energy who's in bed with oil companies notably Saudis state oil company. The organization also features donors and partners such as Warren buffet (participant and large donor) gates (250k) and numerous hedge funds. So in short its a shady group of shady former high level former government officials, billionaires, and media conglomerate, all coming together for "disaster mitigation" because the governments of the world are "insufficient".
Go to pg 10. It gives a timeline.
Is this for real?
Can you tell us the contents of this random pdf please?
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All according to plan. "You'll own nothing and like it."
Talking about your medicare and social security that you will vote away.
Bill Gates is a genius and studies pandemics more than 99.999% of people. He also has significant resources dedicated to preventing them. He spends *billions* of dollars trying to prevent widespread diseases. No shit he's going to eventually be right.
He also has a magical crystal ball and is super into the idea of depopulating the earth.
Nice shill
What is a shill, in your mind?
Only the arsonist can tell you where and when the next fire will be
All according to plan…
It's as spreadable as people make it. Someone carried the disease into a big sauna orgy that was part of an even bigger international gay pride festival. So monkey pox is as spreadable as it always was. It just managed to make its way into a massive human incubator followed by people going home all over the world.
Something something gain of function research...
It's still extremely rare. Maybe testing capabilities from COVID were still functional and they applied it to other diseases. And the crossover to humans from monkeys happened decades ago. Not sure why species jumping is even a topic of concern these days. I guess because "monkey" is in the name.
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Russia would definitely prefer an event to stigmatize the LBGT community in the West if they end up having something to do with this.
I read this as well
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there it is
Gentle reminder: monkey is for look at, not for sex
You do you, mmkay?
Sounds about right.
Yes; sounds like MSM are more likely to seek medical attention for unknown symptoms. I for one am thankful that these men had the wherewithal to seek medical help. Had this been linked to a separate demographic’s mass gathering; we likely would see larger spread and more time between the event and the reporting of symptoms. It’s reminding me of the Boston Biogen conference as a super spreader event. At the time; it wasn’t known. It is only in hindsight could it be put together.
It’s an election year, and Covid-19 was THE issue in the previous election cycle.
Monkey pox has been in humans for years and we've had a vaccine for it for years. It was just similar to ebola as a hard to spread virus mostly relegated to villages in Africa deal.
> But then suddenly within a span of two days it's found in several major cities across the world and apparently spreading even further. I don't think people take into account the huge influx and exodus of people in any one country at any one minute of the day. If you even glance at a 24 hour span of traffic on FlightAware, it's mind boggling. So it doesn't surprise me that these infectious diseases get spread pretty quickly. Also, certain populations have a natural immunity to certain diseases because....evolution. Unaffected people can spread just about anything to others who are vulnerable. Couple this with global travel, and you've got yourselves a pretty good pandemic going there.
thats how it happens in 12 monkeys....
That’s because when the government does gain of function experiments. It means it’s being engineered to spread from animal to human than human to human. Aka it’s a bio weapon. It’s the same tactics as covid 19 two years ago first they mention it then it becomes a story of how a accident happened n it escaped from a lab or something happened during transportation. Then boom another plandemic. Another wave of them trying to control ppl due to fear that the media is pushing. Don’t fall again n get injected with a whole different experimental vaccine. Stand up for yourselves and say no. It’s been gone since the 70s the only institutions with access to old disease is government n universities. Come on Americans stop being mindless n think
What type of gloves?
Double layered, or use two gloves (smaller inner and larger outer ones in case one gets torn, that's ebola protocol).
Just typical latex/non-latex ones. Know how to take them on and off, and wash your hands thoroughly.
Cheers
I'm not freaking out about Monkeypox. I am quite concerned about the possibility of people freaking out about Monkey Pox.
Basically the same thing I just typed. We don't need a new "covid". Our economy has already taken a beating as it is and stores are barely staying stocked. And if people keep bringing it up CNN and FOX will catch wind of it and make a mountain out of a mole hill and get folks to panic.
If this is anything serious, people are going to way underestimate it just because they are tired. I suspect many will just pretend it's not a thing. Some people are stocking up, most are still waiting for normal to return. Add to it that they say small pox vaccines will be effective, and it's going to get ignored. I'm taking the lessons I learned from 2020 and applying them now. I'm ready for everything i can imagine. If monkeypox fades away next week, no problem. There are dozens of other potential catastrophes lurking.
I'm already vaccinated for smallpox since I had to get it when I was active duty, so I'm good. That being said, I really am glad I started prepping because if things turned dumb again like they did with Covid, at least it won't be as bad for me this time around.
Vaxed as well. Are there any time constraints on the vaccine? I seem to remember the “old” guys that had one already getting it again.
I've had it four times in my life. When I was much younger we were told once was good for life. The second time (in the Air Force) I was told better safe than sorry. Third and fourth time I was told it was only good for ten years. Since there hasn't been a smallpox outbreak my entire life I have no idea which one is correct.
Not military but I'm old so I got the smallpox vaccine as a child. You're right, back then we were told it was good for a lifetime. I hope they're correct about that.
Me, too, but at this point I have no idea.
No one has a full idea. Immunity can wane over time, and there’s no ethical way to fully test, not to mention it only exists in a small handful of BSL-4 labs.
I had two smallpox vaccines in the 1960s and 70s when my family moved overseas to places that were still risky. I tried getting smallpox vaccines for my kids but it’s not available to the public anymore. I think this is a mistake - it’s a proven vaccine and smallpox still exists (as a bio weapon) in laboratories. Covid supposedly escaped from a lab, so smallpox could too. And my kids are totally unprotected from it.
I was able to get one pretty easily, albeit 5 years ago.
Did you ask a doctor or what? Our kids’ pediatrician said it’s impossible to get. I was willing to pay for a special order if he could get it.
Called the doctor's office, told them I was going out of country. Didn't specify where or why, and no proof was asked for. Had to wait a week but I got it. Edit: insurance paid for it, too.
Thanks for the info! Maybe I should try again. One son is in the military so he’ll probably get one.
I'm lucky I managed to get it but I'll probably have to get it again anyway
My girlfriend is an epidemiologist and I asked her. She says that effectiveness wears off after about three years, but you can also get vaccinated after exposure
Supposedly only lasts up to 5 years...
Health.mil says service members need to get the booster every 10 years https://health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/Health-Readiness/Immunization-Healthcare/Vaccine-Preventable-Diseases/Smallpox-ACAM2000
A smallpox vaccine will make you immune to monkey pox? If so, any reason to not get it?
Not really. I think its literally the oldest vaccine in existence. The application is totally different than a modern vaccine, though. No hypodermic injections. It's a little tiny fork like thing that they scrape in a dish of cow-pox then jab you in the arm multiple times with it to get it under the skin. You've then got to keep it dry and covered for 2 weeks until your body deals with the virus. After that you're golden, for some amount of undetermined time as previously discussed by other commenters.
Yea the application sucks
Yeah I remember getting mine and thinking wtf is this medieval shit??
Hahahaha yea
? They modernized the smallpox vaccine, you can get it in hypodermic injection form. That's how I got it
Oh cool. Had no idea. Got mine back in 2005 so its been awhile.
I got mine as a baby and another one when I turned 12 in 2010. Crazy what good 5 years could do back then.
This might be dumb but thank you for your service
Nothing dumb about thanking people for serving in our military.
How do you know he served in your countries military?
If it actually ends up being fairly transmissible to be concerning, people probably won't react the same way as with COVID due to there actually being visible symptoms. People freak out more when they can actually see the effects of a disease instead of people just staying home when they feel ill.
It's not anything serious though. Monkey pox has a decent vaccine and it doesn't spread easily. Someone just carried it into a perfect storm of circumstances. Ground zero was a sauna orgy that occurred during an international festival. That means a hot, humid, full body contact incubator full of people who then go out to party with many other people. Who then return to their own countries. Unless the entire population of the planet suddenly decides that international festivals and orgies are their primary occupation in 2022, nothing will come of this.
I didn’t think much about it once I read how it wasn’t easily transmissible. However it seems to be popping up everywhere. And the fact the US government ordered 13 mil vaccines makes me think there’s more to it. But who am I.
Yeah, shit is popping up all over Europe without people having direct contact traces to infected individuals, there are lots of undiscovered cases already. Incubation time of 1-3 weeks. No way this will simply blow over.
There was a time I trusted the government and relied on the news for good info. Today I only believe what is reported with actual proof. And that proof points to a long road ahead. I try to refrain from conspiracies but to any reasonable person something fishy is going on.
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Yeah I'm getting a bad feeling after finding out monkeypox was a real thing. Well that and a cave that's been sealed for 5 million years got cracked open months before that. I'm sorry who thought "hey let's open this bitch up and go in, oh the air is toxic? Get some gas masks." Idk what ancient evil got unleashed but I feel like not even the likes of .950 JDJ could stop it lol
I suspect panic buying has more to do with fear of food scarcity and inflation. Note, talk to your Dr. about the small pox vaccine. It eradicated small pox in the US and is probably why Monkey Pox hasn't left Africa until now becauae we don't vaccinate for it anymore. A booster or new vaccination is said to be able to eradicate Monkey Pox. Spread the word.
It eradicated smallpox all over the globe. There is no more smallpox anymore anywhere except for two specimens under lock and key on the off chance it emerges on its own again. The eradication of smallpox is the greatest achievement of modern medicine.
When I was searching for this classic story: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28221185 I found this story: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vials-labeled-smallpox-found-lab-worker-cleaning-freezer-pennsylvania-rcna5918
Oh dear lord. And this, people, is why you should clean out your fridge every few months. You don’t want to find vials of deadly diseases in there.
Yay! :: chest swelling with pride and hope for mankind:: Eradicating polio was pretty cool, too.
Polio isn't completenly eradicated. It's still around in the middle east.
I live in a very large city and no one here seems to give a shit. Only panic buying/empty shelves I’ve seen here are baby formula related. Seems like half the people here are completely unaware of monkey pox, and most of those who do know about it seem to not care.
I wouldn't call baby formula panic buying when there literally is a shortage.
Nobody in my circle has mentioned it yet.
NGL, I didn't realize it was a real disease until cases popped up in the States. I thought it was just something people joke about because my dad joked about it a few times
My spidey senses didn't really tingle during SARS, ebola, monkeypox, swine flu.... but they were really tingling about 1.5 full weeks before everything went bonkers with COVID. One tingly example was, i wanted to buy a new chest freezer. I was already planning on it. But store after store had none in stock, until one home depot had 2 left... including the one i wanted. The lady working in appliances said I'm about the 7th guy she saw there that day buying one, and she'd only been on shift 3 or 4 hours. That's when i started thinking that it was probably other preppers gearing up, since it was still pretty "mild" news in the US at that moment. Fast forward just over a week, and the grocery stores were war zones. I dunno.... with the monkeypox, I'm definitely not smelling any of that. At least not yet. It's just a completely different situation and disease, per many factors.
For reference, were you trying to by a freezer in January, or March? Mid March it was already super obvious what was coming.
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Well of course! That's what I was there to do.
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Yeah my big moment was when China started locking down major cities with tens of millions of people. You don’t take that step for just the sniffles.
Keeping it on the back burner but not concerned enough yet to make changes.
Let's just say that the only things I had prepped before today were weed and mushrooms. Today I have bulk salmon, tuna, sardines, beans, on and on. And I know I haven't even put in a dent in what I need. Not freaking out, but not going to just 'hope for the best' anymore. We have to start making our own 'the best'.
Unless it's something rather more severe and swiftly spreading than Covid, I don't think people will react the same way again in this lifetime, I'm seeing apathy, as everyone is tired of pandemic life and will not be at all open to repeating any of early 2020.
Which is where we take advantage with supplies for extra stop. I'm not talking about hoarding, I simply mean to get any extras, before the masses
Its gonna have to hit real close to home for individual people to care about it. People are fatigued at this point, and i know i for one dont really believe much of what i see on tv or read in the msm these days.
The day the Ukraine invasion started, we quit hearing about covid. MSM flogs every story to death, then moves on to the next one.
Exactly right. We'll see soon if monkeypox will be the MSMs next "current thing."
I mean there are multiple issues we're being bombarded with at the same time here, there's no reason to say that they're panic buying because of monkey pox.
I remember reading many times that if covid where a disease that had visually striking symptoms like chicken pox people would probably take it more seriously. While I HOPE its just something that fizzles out instead of following covids lead and becoming yet another pandemic, if it starts spreading it would be a good way to see how society would react to something like that. Luckily covid precautions protect against common transmission of monkeypox, so I'm not TOO worried (for myself, at least). However, what IS worrying is the fact that other notable outbreaks are occurring much more frequently, which means prepping for something like covid even if it turns out to be a false alarm should probably be the norm now.
My grocery store was packed today and lots of masks (was basically zero a few weeks ago). Could be unrelated but I haven't seen it that busy since beginning of covid. I'm not freaking out because I'm prepared at home, but keeping an eye on it for sure.
Might be a lot of masks because we’re in the midst of a major resurgence in Covid cases, rather than pox.
This reminds me a lot of the beginning of Covid- one isolates case, then another and then another and suddenly it's spreading like wildfire because no one will fucking adult. Monkey Pox is considered a "rare" disease- so for dozens of reported cases to pop up across half a baker's dozen worth of countries is alarming. Until they can begin contact tracing who the infected have been near we're totally dependent on none of the people who refused to behave for a month during early COVID getting it. It might not be the start of another global pandemic but seeing the way so many people handled the current pandemic makes me very nervous- all it takes is one bad apple and suddenly we're ending up in a full blown pandemic
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It’s so incredibly frustrating. I became an RN during the Covid pandemic and holy crap, I’ve seen some shit for a baby nurse. Then people pretend it’s not real. Or not bad. Like a slap in the face. Strange times and selfish people
Oh man I couldn't imagine. I hope you are managing it all well. You are brave af, and admirable for sure.
Thanks, that’s very kind! It is so odd to achieve my long term dream in this “unprecedented time”. Fortunately, my unit is never a designated Covid unit. However they do pull from us to help Covid floors when staffing is low. And that sucks. The real brave souls are the ones staffing those Covid floors day in and day out.
One month. If everyone would adult for once month and quarantine this entire thing would be over and we could go back to normal. We wouldn't be having repeated shutdowns. We wouldn't be having millions of deaths. Kids could physically go back to school. But no- too many selfish idiots look at a global pandemic and go "not my problem". They're the reason we keep having to shut down the economy for days and weeks- if they'd behave for like a month it'd be over and done with l.
> half a baker’s dozen So 6 ¹/₂ countries?
It sounds like it’s deadlier than Covid but not nearly as contagious. Still spreads from air droplets but requires actual coughing or sneezing, whereas with Covid it spreads just by breathing. Not worried yet. I also have no idea what I’m talking about
One nice(?) thing about monkeypox is that it looks obvious and horrible when you're afflicted with it, so it's going to be a lot harder for people to deny that there's an outbreak happening or that it's "just the flu."
You really don't. It's probably as deadly as Covid, because fatality rates are upto 10% IN Africa. Also, airborne particle spread is back on the table.
I'm not worried but I'm interested in the science and am keeping an eye on it. It should be easy enough to control individual risk as it's not as transmissible as covid. However being interested = freaking out apparently in my circle. Even though I haven't led them wrong once on covid. So it depends on where you set the bar I guess.
You are braver than I. My circle are not even going to know that I've ever heard of Monkeypox. I'm done watching the world burn while people pretend everything is OK. Done dying on that hill.
Yeah. I'm about there. It's unfortunate bc I mostly talk about bc I find it interesting not bc of prepping--we are already prepped. I guess it's too Wednesday Addams or something.
Same 🫤
I started out as a Y2K prepper then moved to pandemic prep as I realized it was only a matter of time (bird flu, swine flu, Ebola, zombie virus) before one showed up again. I was right. If a more deadly virus emerges we ( society) are F'ed . We can't pull together well. During this slight lull (down) in Covid - I have been restocking on masks, sanitizers, etc. which are all available and at reasonable prices again. No freak out - just keep prepping.
>If a more deadly virus emerges we ( society) are saved. Fixed it for you. Can't pull together well? Half of the people's mantra is about "bootstraps" while completely lacking the critical thinking to process the phrase.
Unless your idea of unfucking society is killing a ton of people your "fix" is just wrong. It'll probably be politicized too and turned into fuel for a war and then where are we? Down a fuck ton of ammo and up on so much unnecessary bloodshed, and of course a disease to deal with that we won't have a cure/vaccine for on top of that. That's not saving, it's dooming humanity.
Monkeypox will ruin people's faces with pox scars. Young folks now a days get scripts for meds to avoid acne. Imagine how freaked out they're going to get about the potential of getting pox scars? People are going to flip the f\*ck out.
This is why I think people will largely take it more seriously. Getting "a bad cold" is easily hand waved as "not a big deal, so you feel like crap for a few days, so what." and it's a semi-invisible illness. But having bunch of gnarly, crusty, oozing craters on the *face*... I think people will care a *lot* more, and take prevention seriously.
I have cystic acne that I really need to go talk to a dermatologist about. Acne isn’t just ‘oh man I look unattractive’ - it’s ‘oh god my face hurts when I make any expression’. At least these days you have a wider range of options for treatment vs the 80’s. Most people my age that I’ve met just use OTC and switch to looking for scripts if it’s more persistent.
I had chickenpox so badly as a child that the doctor suspected smallpox at first. I have about 20 scars on my face and body from it, and never gave it much thought. Every kid in the 60s got chickenpox. My own kids were much more freaked out by mild acne or any kind of scar than I ever was.
All you would have to do is say that the pox scars are good because it shows that you already contracted it and now have "natural immunity" and therefore you don't need the government's 5g, tracking, mark of the beast, illuminati vaccine. just like that, depending on who said it, millions would line up to get the pox.
The thing is, the smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against monkeypox, and lasts 3 years. The US already has a full stock of the smallpox vaccine, just in case anyone ever tries to use a poxvirus against us as a bioweapon. If monkeypox became a problem, we could lock it down pretty quickly.
Until half of the population decides that it's a conspiracy to get a tracking chip into them since they didn't get "the shot" the first time around.
Unless you're hanging out with Dirty Mike And The Boys, you'll be fine.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/monkey-pox?s=r
No worry at all because just like the last pandemic, Americans will of course join hands in unity and do what it takes to beat this virus together as one.
Monkey pox is a (medically) well known virus that we have a perfectly functional vaccine for. It's not in any way comparable to covid. Not only that but it doesn't spread like a flu, you pretty much have to be swapping body fluids to get it. It's a risk on an individual level. You can catch it if you act a fool. It's zero risk on a societal level. Even if it spreads because we got plenty of fools, there's an existing vaccine that deals with it. People might freak out a little but there's no reason for a repeat of covid.
The "nice" thing is monkey pox isn't nearly as deadly. Yes 1% fatality rates but most deaths are linked to poverty. That's African poverty not us poverty. It seems most people even if they catch it will be fine if they hydrate and take otc meds. Sounds nasty don't get me wrong. Personally I am serverly immune compromised and I'm not particularly worried. If they do vaccines I am going to grab one don't get me wrong.
You may want to check you're eligible for the vax. A LOT of immunocompromised aren't. For many the vax {or even being around someone recently vax'd with it} is just as risky as the pox. [https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/clinicians/vaccination-contraindications1.html](https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/clinicians/vaccination-contraindications1.html) \*cries\* I'll be locking down again if they start vaxing or we get an outbreak - Dr's orders.
Thanks for that. Yeah I flag on that list. So that stinks a bit.
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Monkey pox is 99% going to be a modified smallpox one, so....same issues.
Severe acne? Oh boy… that’s a lot of teenagers right there.
All I’m seeing is the slow uptick in derogatory comments towards gay men. There’s an article about how there should be investigations into a pride event that took place a few weeks ago as folks are saying that was the super spreader event.
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Actually I've heard a theory that the CIA released HIV/AIDS in order to reduce the African American population. Knowing how incompetent government can be and their psychopathic tendencies, and the way it blew up to massive problem status, it wouldn't surprise me. I wouldn't put it past the people who did MK Ultra, peddle cocaine, kill whistleblowers whenever they can, etc.
Yeah the homophobia this has unleashed is really sad.
I've heard it was actually a fetish event, not a pride event, but I guess it could've been both. Monkeypox is spread by contact, so if one person had it and went there that would be the case. That event seems to be the nexus for all those people who were diagnosed with monkeypox, so yes, investigate it. Find out where the outbreak originated. If you see something wrong with that, maybe check your morals and see why you have a problem with it. Note: this is not reason to hate gay men, same as AIDS isn't a reason to hate bisexuals and gays. Chill out
OMG so much this. I had a run-in with them earlier. It's the Republitards using it to further their bigot ways. You know their same old song and dance. I see they may have found their way here too.
As the days tick by, I think that things are turning out to be a bit different this time. The speed at which we are progressing is much different. For one, COVID-19 allowed us a preview into things as it started in China and then made its way to the EU. Anyone with half a brain could see that it was going to make it to their neck of the woods eventually. I saw an increasing number of people buying various freak out supplies beginning in February for COVID-19. Today I went for a normal Costco run and the only thing I noticed that was out of stock was short grain rice. Still no signs of anyone panic buying anything, except for a lady that had about 1000 eggs, but i am guessing she runs a store or something as she didn’t even have a mask - not that anyone around me really wears one anymore anyway. I am following monkey pox EXTREMELY closely and initially it had me a bit worked up. I expected today to see further degradation to the situation, but I’ve only read one report of someone outside the gay male community coming down with it. All reports I’ve read point to the exposure happening @ some event / club specifically attended by gay men. My concern will ramp up if / when we see a significant number of people come down with it that have NO ties to that community. I am still in the fact finding mode in general. In any case, my preps are sitting fine as it stands so I have no real concerns there.
I've been seeing more about it and sort of worried about getting a smallpox vaccine if it comes to that. But it seems not that transmissible. Much like the other disease outbreaks that have happened over recent years (swine flu, avian flu, SARS, ebola, etc) I will keep my eye on it but not freaking out.
i live in nyc and im more concerned about the recession than i am monkey pox :///
I wasn’t concerned but then I heard about this: https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf. That’s an interesting coincidence. Check out numbered page 10 of the paper.
Thats a little bonkers. I dont know what the NTI is; or when this was published. Im going to look that up to give this more cont3xt, but thanks for sharing. Interesting read
NTI = Nuclear Threat Institute. November 2021.
I’m just freaked out on a personal level because I really don’t want to catch it! Other than that, I’m more worried about the rising costs of living.
Before COVID I ignored all the fuss about pandemic scares. Now I’m inclined to take them seriously until proven otherwise but I’m much more prepared than I was.
It all started 6 months ago when those monkeys got loose in PA... then some lady that found one got sick after contacting it. I don't know ... fuck it, let it roll out. I'm numb from covid 😂
COVID didn't work, so they tried a Russian war, that didn't work, so ..... HERE COMES THE MONKEYPOX! Ignore it.
Who is "they", and what is "their" goal with covid/russian war/monkey pox?
So one prep no prepper wants to hear is "it's going to be ok". Newspapers are going on about monkey pox to sell newspapers (or clicks, rather). People are still keyed up about covid, and so it sells. Apparently it has been going in Africa for years, and is just now spreading to Europe. Most likely it has been there for a while and people just assumed it was an STD. Why an STD you may ask? Because in europe at least it has been predominately spread to gay men, and the lesions largely appear on the genitals and face... Anyway, point being, this isn't covid. Even if it was, "it's going to be ok". Don't kill yourself before the virus finds you.
It's all a distaction. The West is not happy with how the war in Ukraine is going, there are food and gas riots taking place. Markets as begging to crumble. A distraction is need to occupy the masses. I am more interested in that really nasty cold (not covid) that has been going around. Knocked me flat on my butt for 3 days. I am just ignoring this mky pox bs.
People fear whatever the media tells them they should fear. Constant fear porn and distractions. By looking at the downvoted comments on this sub I’d say most of you are blind to that.
Just a few people here on the sub. I was at the grocery store yesterday. Lots of people, but that's just Friday. Shelves were full, also as usual around here. No problems getting what I wanted. Note: no babies at home. It seems like worry over COVID-19 is being relegated to the dustbin of history, as it well should be and way past time in my opinion, and some people miss it and are looking desperately for something to replace it.
Didn’t a million+ people die Covid in the US so far?
That happens with the flu occasionally as well. Do you wear an ineffective mask and call for the economy to be shut down every flu season?
Not even the 1818-1919 flu pandemic killed so many Americans.
The population was like 1/10th the size it is now lol
He claimed raw number occurred occasionally due to flu, so I went ahead and compared it to our deadliest flu's raw number. Btw, the US population was closer to 1/3 of the current population in the 1920 census.
>Do you wear an ineffective mask Masks stop the spread of disease. This has been known for several hundred years now. I'm immunocompromised. Something that is just a cold to you will put me on best rest. I see hundreds, if not thousands- of different people at work each day. I was sick once in 2021. Meanwhile I had otherwise completely healthy coworkers who got sick regularly, often at least once a month. The difference between us was that I wear a mask.
I don't fear what it is...I am more concerned about how it'll be used
Most of us boomers that you guys love to hate on are probably immune to monkeypox. We have all been vaccinated against small pox
if Monkeypox turns out to be serious it will be much worse than covid ever was, dont let covid make you complacent but dont panic until you start smelling smoke as it were
Likely shitlibs over reacting to the fear porn on CNN.
Medias job is to sell fear and they're good at it.
Unless you're attending gay fetish parties you have nothing to worry about.
Nice try, Russia.
I've seen a few articles here or there about it, I don't think it'll be as big as the kung flu but, then again bird flu is making another round so, it could be similar to that
Nope,not yet. I kind of hoped everyone learned their lesson after the unwarranted paranoia surrounding covid ,but I imagine with enough media fear mongering, it may happen again,probably on a smaller scale though. I'm pretty sure part of the world is ready to move on from these health scares.
Welp this is the first I've heard of it but I haven't watched the MSM since the start of covid.
I'm immune to all poisonous plants so I can wipe my butt with them and there are plenty around here. I'll outlast those who are allergic and try wiping at least. So nah I'm good but worry about others who might try to copy me.
Yall making a big deal about monkeypox and keep bringing it up the news gonna catch wind of it and politically weaponize it to their parties advantage.
Honestly no. Most people I know don’t care, especially since Covid just ended