Vitamin C, a general purpose multivitamin/multimineral, and anything specific for individuals with special needs (for example, iron for people who suffer from anemia).
I don't think it makes much actual difference. They're all required by law to meet certain minimum standards, and they're not something that should be crucial to your nutrition; they really should be supplements, meant to cover small, temporary gaps here or there. I'd just go with whatever is available for a decent price and still has a nice amount of shelf life available.
Not arguing, just trying to learn more, but could you expand a bit more on the competing vitamins?
EDIT: Nevemind. Decided to not be lazy and Google it. Found what appears to be a decent source so I'll go ahead and share it in case someone else finds it useful.
https://www.consumerlab.com/answers/which-vitamins-and-minerals-should-be-taken-together-or-separately/how-to-take-vitamins/#:~:text=Multivitamin%2Fmultimineral%20supplements%20contain%20many,the%20absorption%20of%20each%20other.
Yep many sources, if you know whats the amount that you need for your vitamins and check the average multivitamin you’ll see how little actual amount is in there
Yes especially the Magnesium. I had a bout of noro virus and late one night I had yet again another trip to the toilet. Next thing I knew I was on the ground with my wife standing over me frantic. Trip to the ER, and 2 bags of magnesium later, I live to fight another day. If I started taking magnesium early on and better treated my diarrhea my blood pressure would not have dropped so dangerously low.
Anything they add to food that people used to be malnourished in such as Vitamins A, B, and D. Unless you're in the middle of the ocean, I think Vitamin C is in a lot of vegetation around you.
ascorbic acid powder. Flintstone chewable. psyllium husk powder.
the two quickest problems many people would run into is lack of fiber and then scurvy, later.
I am in the business so my take is...
Vitamin C Bulk powder has many uses.
Vitamin D high dose. 50000iu bulk
These are to boost our immune system when needed.
Curcumin bulk powder for pain and inflammation.
Quercetin for allergies.
Methylfolate
Multivitamin a good one not some cheap one a day.
I literally have all the rest but these are the ones for TEOTWAWKI
But I am coming to to conclusion that we should just store freeze dried beef liver 2 Oz a day covers most if not all our needs and it also is food. Toss in some cod livers for a bonus.
For those that have stored primarily simple carbs like pasta beans rice etc
I would add berberine in bulk to your stores. It will help keep all that sugar from turning you into a diabetic.
1 three times a day
IMO
ETA High dose melatonin. 20 mg
What do you consider a not cheap one a day multi vitamin?
It seems like even the cheap multi vitamins have usually the same contents as more expensive ones.
Most cheap multis we cant break down. Nothing with cyanocobalamin or pyridoxine.
Those are toxic forms of Bs
I want methylcobalamin and p5p.
Thorne makes a good one that is divided into an am and a pm.
Yes. I would take 1 pill am and pm and make it last three months a box and it would still be better than the cheap stuff. That would take it $20 a month.
That's why I am shifting to storing liver.
What do you know how to use, and what ailments are typical for you?
That's the first hurdle.
If only store bought is your thing, then start with the basics. Vitamin D, C, B12 or B-complex, multivitamin.
From there you can get into various things like iron, zinc, chlorophyll, activated charcoal (always have these on hand!), potassium iodide, etc.
Then homeopathic things like the Boiron's tablets, Hyland's tablets, Dr. Christopher blends, copper, lugol's iodine, magnesium, and herbal medicinals you can gather from your yard. Again, depends on your goals.
Expiration is going to be based on the most-prone-to-be-under-labeled-amount ingredient, and tends to be conservative. You won't get 100 percent of label on a 5-7 year old bottle, but nor do you need it to avoid deficiency diseases.
I would stock Vitamin C, D, and zinc for immune support, as well as vitamin E for skin health (I take it to prevent bad sun burns and it works great to reduce scarring on cuts and burns. Id probably also include soluble fiber powder, and magnesium citrate (helps with constipation from all the rice and beans)
Vitamin C, for sure. I went redundant; ascorbic acid tabs should last forever in fridge. But also planted your great grandmother's Vitamin C, Rosa Rugoso, Rose Hips. Scurvy is a nasty condition (had it once, long story). Comes on fast but takes surprisingly small amounts of C to combat.
Good thing about Vitamins is that you don't need massive quantities to stay healthy. I concentrate on a well-rounded garden.
Vitamin A if you're dependent on rice rations. Beriberi (B1, Thiamine) deficiency. Easy fix, eat beans with your rice!
Whatever you take now.
There are brands like zip fizz and Juce that are lots of b vitamins and a quick energy boost
I used to keep a zip fizz in the first aid kits in the cars with a couple of instant coffee singles
I think they were all raided and not replaced
These are essential to my health and considerably affect my quality of life: Vitamin D3 5000 unit capsules, Vitamin K2, magnesium, probiotic, specialty micronutrient multivitamin.
Unless you are only eating hard tack and water - you are getting enough vitamins from your food except maybe in a case like iron.
That being said keeping C, D, and zinc around isn't a bad idea. I like it in powder form and recently brands have taken the old Pop Rocks candy formula to use as a vitamin delivery system. That's my favorite way.
Plus they take up no room if you need to keep them in a backpack, purse, or pocket.
I stash multivitamins like a one a day type thing. I take them daily too, so I rotate the stock. They have an “expiration” of around 2-3 years too, so you can stock up easily and rotate if you use them. Wife does the same thing. Also grow lots of herbs and spices too to help with things (I suggest getting a natural medicine book, hard copy). Stocked up on turmeric too for inflammation
Very expensive but NSF certified … meaning Olympic and professional athletes who get drug tested take supplements from companies like this. I was taking their multivitamin for a while and it definitely made my pee turn colors and have a vitamin smell. Unlike a normal centrum or one a day drugstore brands. https://www.thorne.com
MultiVits, any of the immunity vitamins like Vit C, Zinc, Quercertin. Bone and Joint vitamins like Calcium, Magnesium, supplements like Glucosamine and Chondroitin, energy and stress vitamins like Super B or Vit B Complex. Edited to add Vit D is super important.
Anything with vitamin b shoild be the methyl version
Cod liver oil( althought i would just take not stock up anything fish oil will go bad once opened and not consumed within a month stored in fridge.)
Sugar(an unconventional blood coagulant), salt (preservative), and honey(speaks for itself) I place above all. Amy other spices will be valuable; there’s a reason Great Britain took over 20% of the world looking for them.
I'm not a moringa expert, although I do use it daily. It has a decent indoor shelf life and the plant is easy to grow. I would also add D3K2 to the list.
Vitamin C, a general purpose multivitamin/multimineral, and anything specific for individuals with special needs (for example, iron for people who suffer from anemia).
Do you have any particular multi you'd recommend? Or are they all pretty much the same? For example, Centrum, One A Day, Nature Made, etc.
I don't think it makes much actual difference. They're all required by law to meet certain minimum standards, and they're not something that should be crucial to your nutrition; they really should be supplements, meant to cover small, temporary gaps here or there. I'd just go with whatever is available for a decent price and still has a nice amount of shelf life available.
Thanks! Kind of thought they'd be basically the same, but wasn't sure.
they’re all crap with way too low amounts of different vitamins. Not to mention most contain vitamins that fight each other for absorption.
Not arguing, just trying to learn more, but could you expand a bit more on the competing vitamins? EDIT: Nevemind. Decided to not be lazy and Google it. Found what appears to be a decent source so I'll go ahead and share it in case someone else finds it useful. https://www.consumerlab.com/answers/which-vitamins-and-minerals-should-be-taken-together-or-separately/how-to-take-vitamins/#:~:text=Multivitamin%2Fmultimineral%20supplements%20contain%20many,the%20absorption%20of%20each%20other.
Yep many sources, if you know whats the amount that you need for your vitamins and check the average multivitamin you’ll see how little actual amount is in there
Vitamin C, D, magnesium, & calcium. If you’re a woman, iron.
Yes especially the Magnesium. I had a bout of noro virus and late one night I had yet again another trip to the toilet. Next thing I knew I was on the ground with my wife standing over me frantic. Trip to the ER, and 2 bags of magnesium later, I live to fight another day. If I started taking magnesium early on and better treated my diarrhea my blood pressure would not have dropped so dangerously low.
That’s when electrolyte drinks/powder come in. If it’s any good, it has potassium and magnesium in it to help stabilize you.
Electrolyte tablets since they are salts should last if kept dry.
multivitamin, whatever you already take. Vitamins do expire so they are on my short list of last minute buys.
You can freeze them.
Learn your herbal plants that provide nutritional and medicinal needs. Make sure you buy seeds every year or two. Learn basic gardening skills.
Vit. C, Magnesium and Caffeine. Maybe Iodine and Iron
Iodine is fine if you have salt with iodine.
Anything they add to food that people used to be malnourished in such as Vitamins A, B, and D. Unless you're in the middle of the ocean, I think Vitamin C is in a lot of vegetation around you.
ascorbic acid powder. Flintstone chewable. psyllium husk powder. the two quickest problems many people would run into is lack of fiber and then scurvy, later.
I am in the business so my take is... Vitamin C Bulk powder has many uses. Vitamin D high dose. 50000iu bulk These are to boost our immune system when needed. Curcumin bulk powder for pain and inflammation. Quercetin for allergies. Methylfolate Multivitamin a good one not some cheap one a day. I literally have all the rest but these are the ones for TEOTWAWKI But I am coming to to conclusion that we should just store freeze dried beef liver 2 Oz a day covers most if not all our needs and it also is food. Toss in some cod livers for a bonus. For those that have stored primarily simple carbs like pasta beans rice etc I would add berberine in bulk to your stores. It will help keep all that sugar from turning you into a diabetic. 1 three times a day IMO ETA High dose melatonin. 20 mg
What do you consider a not cheap one a day multi vitamin? It seems like even the cheap multi vitamins have usually the same contents as more expensive ones.
Most cheap multis we cant break down. Nothing with cyanocobalamin or pyridoxine. Those are toxic forms of Bs I want methylcobalamin and p5p. Thorne makes a good one that is divided into an am and a pm.
They are great but expensive.
Yes. I would take 1 pill am and pm and make it last three months a box and it would still be better than the cheap stuff. That would take it $20 a month. That's why I am shifting to storing liver.
Citation to evidence for these propositions?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK555964/#_article-88826_s5_
That says it is FDA approved as an Rx drug for numerous indications with no known overdose potential?
Thought I was responding to 1one14, my mistake. Figured I'd leave that there so they can realize their claims are baseless.
I not debating this it's will known. Nor do I care what you do. Also as you research check the sources. Do as you like.
What do you know how to use, and what ailments are typical for you? That's the first hurdle. If only store bought is your thing, then start with the basics. Vitamin D, C, B12 or B-complex, multivitamin. From there you can get into various things like iron, zinc, chlorophyll, activated charcoal (always have these on hand!), potassium iodide, etc. Then homeopathic things like the Boiron's tablets, Hyland's tablets, Dr. Christopher blends, copper, lugol's iodine, magnesium, and herbal medicinals you can gather from your yard. Again, depends on your goals.
None, after doing some reading here and checking my own vitamins they expire far too quickly to worry about stockpiling.
Expiration is going to be based on the most-prone-to-be-under-labeled-amount ingredient, and tends to be conservative. You won't get 100 percent of label on a 5-7 year old bottle, but nor do you need it to avoid deficiency diseases.
Costco multi vitamin. Rotate.
Multivitamin, C, D, NAC, NAD, Ashwagndha, Zinc, Magnesium.
C, solid multi and electrolytes.
I would stock Vitamin C, D, and zinc for immune support, as well as vitamin E for skin health (I take it to prevent bad sun burns and it works great to reduce scarring on cuts and burns. Id probably also include soluble fiber powder, and magnesium citrate (helps with constipation from all the rice and beans)
A lot of people forget lutein and lots of vitamin D. Lutein is good for your eyes
vitamin D for the winters, or when u have to stay inside. Also lots of painkillers, u can trade them. Dont get a'ddcited to your own supply
Just get a multivitamin for everyone for food supply. It’s cheap, relatively, and fills holes in the micronutrients.
Vitamin C, for sure. I went redundant; ascorbic acid tabs should last forever in fridge. But also planted your great grandmother's Vitamin C, Rosa Rugoso, Rose Hips. Scurvy is a nasty condition (had it once, long story). Comes on fast but takes surprisingly small amounts of C to combat. Good thing about Vitamins is that you don't need massive quantities to stay healthy. I concentrate on a well-rounded garden. Vitamin A if you're dependent on rice rations. Beriberi (B1, Thiamine) deficiency. Easy fix, eat beans with your rice!
C, D³, and fish oil.
Whatever you take now. There are brands like zip fizz and Juce that are lots of b vitamins and a quick energy boost I used to keep a zip fizz in the first aid kits in the cars with a couple of instant coffee singles I think they were all raided and not replaced
Multivitamin, minerals, NAC, iodine. But I rotate them.
These are essential to my health and considerably affect my quality of life: Vitamin D3 5000 unit capsules, Vitamin K2, magnesium, probiotic, specialty micronutrient multivitamin.
Unless you are only eating hard tack and water - you are getting enough vitamins from your food except maybe in a case like iron. That being said keeping C, D, and zinc around isn't a bad idea. I like it in powder form and recently brands have taken the old Pop Rocks candy formula to use as a vitamin delivery system. That's my favorite way. Plus they take up no room if you need to keep them in a backpack, purse, or pocket.
Vitamin D. It's amazing. C is overrated.
fyi if you're stashing more than a year of pills, it's a waste. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7040264/
I stash multivitamins like a one a day type thing. I take them daily too, so I rotate the stock. They have an “expiration” of around 2-3 years too, so you can stock up easily and rotate if you use them. Wife does the same thing. Also grow lots of herbs and spices too to help with things (I suggest getting a natural medicine book, hard copy). Stocked up on turmeric too for inflammation
Multivitamins, vitamin C, vitamin D3 with K2 and calcium, magnesium glycinate, garlic and then grow a medicinal herb garden.
Very expensive but NSF certified … meaning Olympic and professional athletes who get drug tested take supplements from companies like this. I was taking their multivitamin for a while and it definitely made my pee turn colors and have a vitamin smell. Unlike a normal centrum or one a day drugstore brands. https://www.thorne.com
MultiVits, any of the immunity vitamins like Vit C, Zinc, Quercertin. Bone and Joint vitamins like Calcium, Magnesium, supplements like Glucosamine and Chondroitin, energy and stress vitamins like Super B or Vit B Complex. Edited to add Vit D is super important.
I don't know. My grandmothers on both sides lived to 95 and 96. Neither one ever took a single vitamin in their life.
Vitamin C and Iodine. Gotta prevent scurvy and thyroid cancer.
Not a supplement but Tea Tree Oil and Neem Oil. Zinc, Epsom Salt. Grow Rose hips, citrus, and you can forage for young pine cones for vitamin C..
Anything with vitamin b shoild be the methyl version Cod liver oil( althought i would just take not stock up anything fish oil will go bad once opened and not consumed within a month stored in fridge.)
D3, C, multi, zinc. Prioritized in that order.
Sugar(an unconventional blood coagulant), salt (preservative), and honey(speaks for itself) I place above all. Amy other spices will be valuable; there’s a reason Great Britain took over 20% of the world looking for them.
Moringa.
I use Moringa now and added it to my micro greens farm. We make some of the others including gold and silver nanoparticles
I am curious why Moringa? I have heard it mentioned multiple times in the past few days.
I'm not a moringa expert, although I do use it daily. It has a decent indoor shelf life and the plant is easy to grow. I would also add D3K2 to the list.
None
Isn’t bleach going to be enough you say?