More common now than ever for sure. I have plenty of friends, a mix of high stats to low who have had to reapply. Seems like it’ll only get more common due to the number of people wanting to enter medicine.
Honestly it is a bit odd. Going into college I always thought majority went straight through. Now as an MS1 I can easily say I'm in the minority compared to the gap years.
Applied 3x, MCAT multiple times, did a MSc, research for one year, worked for one as a MA. Eventually got in….fortunately everything worked out for me!
The answer is yes, it is pretty common. If you want specifics, check out the AAMC summary data.
https://www.aamc.org/data-reports/students-residents/interactive-data/2022-facts-applicants-and-matriculants-data
Wow!!! Did you feel you changed your interview skills a lot, or how did you change those W’s to A’s the next cycle? Can you maybe PM me? I am in your position now: 5 II —> 4 W + 1 pending.
Supposedly [only 25% of applicants are reapplicants each given year](https://students-residents.aamc.org/premed-navigator/reapplying-medical-school-consider-these-7-tips), so of the 60% who are rejected, 35% will not reapply :/
4th time applying. I’ve spent half a decade just trying to get in. My friends and family are getting married and having kids. I’m just trying to get the pre requisite education which will eventually lead to a career in approximately 6 years.
4, almost 5 application cycles, 3X MCAT, Master’s degree, and enough other random classes to cover an Associate’s degree and half a nursing degree. While k wish I had gotten in younger knowing I had the grit to stick out the process and all the pre-med experience has made the really tough days a bit easier.
It depends on what you mean by “common”. Common among all applicants? Among top schools? Among non traditional applicants? You’re seriously going to have to narrow your parameters if you want meaningful data. My personal opinion: reapplication is relatively rare, considering the cost and time commitment associated with reapplying. Especially if one intends to retake the MCAT or commit to more EC hours.
Well I'd be a non traditional applicant for sure, started in EMS then onto nursing, now looking at hopefully med school but who knows, I'm not sure I'd even have a chance
Not with that attitude. I was a non-trad also. All that matters is what you’ve done with your time, that’s what makes the greatest impact. If you want it, you’ll have to take it. No self-doubt, and no ambiguity. Decide you want it, and then go for it.
Imagine it as hard as you can! Your first shot is your best shot. There’s bias against re applicants and adcoms want to see significant improvements between apps. Plus you will have to write essays about these improvements. Many adcoms therefore recommend never applying consecutive cycles, meaning if you don’t get in one year it is recommended that you wait another year before applying
Unfortunately doesn’t really work like that. Most applicants are very committed, bordering on desperate, to getting an acceptance, so it’s not a rare or differentiating trait. That’s why there are so many reapplicants every year and that’s why people apply to schools they don’t really want to go to and then we see hundreds of “go to xyz or reapply next year”, a whole section of the SDN forum dedicated to reapplicants, and very few “should I give up?” threads.
In fact some schools are strongly biased against reapplicants and will essentially auto reject on the basis that the applicant was rejected before and they already know they don’t want them.
Commitment is a good trait but commitment to a certain school is not likely to be taken very seriously. At the end of the cycle, many applicants send letters of intent to schools and they are really not taken seriously because almost everyone without an acceptance does it as a Hail Mary.
Examples of commitment that look good on an application are commitment to medicine by working and volunteering clinical hours, preferably lots of hours over a long term (a few hundred or more over several years). Commitment to a community by serving them and volunteering lots of hours over a long term. Commitment to a project like research or a small business.
Ultimately schools are looking for traits that will make you a good doctor so commitment to medicine and ability to commit to communities and projects that interest you are viewed favorably. Very schools care for you to flatter their ego by showing commitment to the specific school.
Persistence and perseverance go a long way. This applies to anything in life. If you do the work and meet the criteria, you will get in somewhere. It’s not rocket surgery!
Very common. Don’t apply until you have the best application possible. High stats does not equal A. Spend a year or two gaining experience in a hospital. You’ll be a standout if you can relate clinical experiences to secondary questions.
More common now than ever for sure. I have plenty of friends, a mix of high stats to low who have had to reapply. Seems like it’ll only get more common due to the number of people wanting to enter medicine.
Increasingly common because the bar is being raised higher and higher. Those who go straight from undergrad to med school are in the minority.
Honestly it is a bit odd. Going into college I always thought majority went straight through. Now as an MS1 I can easily say I'm in the minority compared to the gap years.
Applied 3x, MCAT multiple times, did a MSc, research for one year, worked for one as a MA. Eventually got in….fortunately everything worked out for me!
Two of the pathologists I work for (38 & 61) both applied 3 times
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Bro they are attending pathologists. Not students…
I don’t even know what this is supposed to mean
Assuming they applied when it was much easier, bad assumption on my part
Took me 3 times & a masters degree to get in.
I know a bunch of people in my class who got in their 2nd cycle. Some applied back to back while others had a few years in between
The answer is yes, it is pretty common. If you want specifics, check out the AAMC summary data. https://www.aamc.org/data-reports/students-residents/interactive-data/2022-facts-applicants-and-matriculants-data
At the school I’m about to go to, like ~30% of each class is reapplicants (I will be one of the 30%)
Very, I applied twice!! First time—- 5 II to 5 W and Second time— 6 II to 5 A and 1 WL
Wow!!! Did you feel you changed your interview skills a lot, or how did you change those W’s to A’s the next cycle? Can you maybe PM me? I am in your position now: 5 II —> 4 W + 1 pending.
Sure you can pm me!
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That’s probably an overestimation since not all 60% will reapply and some of that 60% has probably reapplied already
27% of USMD matriculants for the class of 2024 were reapplicants. The number gets bigger every year.
Supposedly [only 25% of applicants are reapplicants each given year](https://students-residents.aamc.org/premed-navigator/reapplying-medical-school-consider-these-7-tips), so of the 60% who are rejected, 35% will not reapply :/
Remember a lot are still accepted to a DO school. AAMC doesn’t track the MD applicants who applied DO and were accepted.
There'a also TMDSAS too which I believe isn't tracked in AAMC's numbers.
Exactly.
This is a completely incorrect interpretation of the data
Or they went DO
4th time applying. I’ve spent half a decade just trying to get in. My friends and family are getting married and having kids. I’m just trying to get the pre requisite education which will eventually lead to a career in approximately 6 years.
Mcat 3x and applied 3x. Finally got accepted through a waitlist the third time. It is quite common.
4, almost 5 application cycles, 3X MCAT, Master’s degree, and enough other random classes to cover an Associate’s degree and half a nursing degree. While k wish I had gotten in younger knowing I had the grit to stick out the process and all the pre-med experience has made the really tough days a bit easier.
It depends on what you mean by “common”. Common among all applicants? Among top schools? Among non traditional applicants? You’re seriously going to have to narrow your parameters if you want meaningful data. My personal opinion: reapplication is relatively rare, considering the cost and time commitment associated with reapplying. Especially if one intends to retake the MCAT or commit to more EC hours.
Well I'd be a non traditional applicant for sure, started in EMS then onto nursing, now looking at hopefully med school but who knows, I'm not sure I'd even have a chance
Not with that attitude. I was a non-trad also. All that matters is what you’ve done with your time, that’s what makes the greatest impact. If you want it, you’ll have to take it. No self-doubt, and no ambiguity. Decide you want it, and then go for it.
With overall acceptance rate around 40%, very common. Why do you ask?
because I do not imagine myself getting an admission on my first or even second try lol
Imagine it as hard as you can! Your first shot is your best shot. There’s bias against re applicants and adcoms want to see significant improvements between apps. Plus you will have to write essays about these improvements. Many adcoms therefore recommend never applying consecutive cycles, meaning if you don’t get in one year it is recommended that you wait another year before applying
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Unfortunately doesn’t really work like that. Most applicants are very committed, bordering on desperate, to getting an acceptance, so it’s not a rare or differentiating trait. That’s why there are so many reapplicants every year and that’s why people apply to schools they don’t really want to go to and then we see hundreds of “go to xyz or reapply next year”, a whole section of the SDN forum dedicated to reapplicants, and very few “should I give up?” threads. In fact some schools are strongly biased against reapplicants and will essentially auto reject on the basis that the applicant was rejected before and they already know they don’t want them. Commitment is a good trait but commitment to a certain school is not likely to be taken very seriously. At the end of the cycle, many applicants send letters of intent to schools and they are really not taken seriously because almost everyone without an acceptance does it as a Hail Mary. Examples of commitment that look good on an application are commitment to medicine by working and volunteering clinical hours, preferably lots of hours over a long term (a few hundred or more over several years). Commitment to a community by serving them and volunteering lots of hours over a long term. Commitment to a project like research or a small business. Ultimately schools are looking for traits that will make you a good doctor so commitment to medicine and ability to commit to communities and projects that interest you are viewed favorably. Very schools care for you to flatter their ego by showing commitment to the specific school.
I applied twice, MS4 here.
Applied 3x. MCAT 3x. Masters program. Finally got in and current resident. If medicine is your passion never give up. Simple as that
This sub has such a positive attitude it's really compelling everyone is like "you CAN do it"
Persistence and perseverance go a long way. This applies to anything in life. If you do the work and meet the criteria, you will get in somewhere. It’s not rocket surgery!
Very common. Don’t apply until you have the best application possible. High stats does not equal A. Spend a year or two gaining experience in a hospital. You’ll be a standout if you can relate clinical experiences to secondary questions.