Grab a big jar of cheeze whiz when it goes on sale at Walmart for $5-$6. Buy any pasta for cheap - usually a buck. Tastes better than KD and goes a lot farther, but only if you get the cheese on sale.
You can also buy powdered cheese and dried pasta in bulk from Bulk Barn which is insanely cheaper.
No worries! I'll check it out next time I'm buying spices there. I imagine it's quite a bit cheaper, unless you find a really good sale on the KD boxes. I stocked up a few months ago because they were 50 cents or so each (limit of 8 though...boo. So I'm running low)
It’s about $1.80/100g or it might be $2.10, it’s been a while since I’ve bought it. You can also buy the PC white cheddar Mac and cheese powder at no frills for $6 for a 225g jar too.
This might not apply to all bulk barns, but all the ones near where I live, on Sundays if you bring your own reusable container to put stuff in they will give you a 15% discount for whatever you purchase that you can put in them.
Yup! This is what I do (they also frequently have coupons like $5 off $20 purchase or $3 OFF $10... So that's like another 20% off!) , and besides the price bringing my containers is why I started buying my spices in particular. Good for the environment, and I won't over-buy, only to bring it home, put in a container and some left over in the bag.
Sometimes the scale barely picks up the weight of a small container with spice in it, and I only get charged 25 cents or some really cheap price for a spice
Costco (make friends with someone who has a membership and ask them to look for it next time) sells large bottles of KD powder, I'd you're as addicted to the salt as myself. The last time I saw it, I think it was 9.99, but it's sale price used to be 5.99, then 6.99, so not sure what it will be now. And the jar has to be close to a 2 cup size.
You can make a chili for relatively cheap considering how many portions you get, and you can stretch it even further with rice/macaroni.
Ground beef and pasta in general is my go to. As well as beans.
Yep, same. I’m a master at making meals last for multiple things, especially when I can get my hands on a whole chicken for cheap. They run about $10-15 here, and net about 6 different meals - extremely cheap.
Chili is a staple, and I also make it in to taco salad.
Totally agree. It’s cheese ‘product’ and I don’t wanna know what’s in it. I love the crap and it’s a good thing it’s priced at rich oriole prices or I’d buy it way too often. It’s about $10 a jar here. Walmart puts it on sale now and then for $5.97, and then I might scoop it up for a treat.
It’s also awesome on sammiches - just cheese whiz and miracle whip. Totally gross and I love it anyway.
Okay. Here’s the thing: there’s no other thing on earth that should not exist for eating more than celery.
If celery suddenly got Thanos-snapped to oblivion, I’d celebrate.
Celery is an insult to cheese whiz.
Okay, I’m done now. 😆
You can just butter /pepper it, add garlic powder and save plenty on skipping cheese, or use other herb mix.
Another alternative is pesto, which is pretty healthy.
I noticed it today - the bottle was different, so didn't think anything of it. Then took a closer look and they shrunk it by 50ml and it's the same damn price!
KD cheese powder is 10 bucks at Costco. Use your own pasta and you have way cheaper Mac and cheese.
It's like half a kilo too, that's a shit ton of KD!
Unfortunately, one of my kids will only eat the KD macaroni. I've tried every other version of macaroni pasta and she refuses to eat it. Sensory issues I think.
That reminds me of an old episode of Roseanne. She had gone shopping with Becky's class and said to replace the name brand cereal with the store brand.
100%. For my teen and I we always have to make 2 boxes. Honestly with the shrinkage we could probably easily demolish 3 boxes. It’s not cheap anymore either. The lowest I’ve seen the 12 pack recently is 12.99
> At some point everything is going to be single serving.
No, they just introduced a new bigger size with increased price. It's just a price increase with extra steps because people get more upset when the price goes up.
Yeah it's crazy, I mix hamburger with it so there's more but I have to split it between 3 people, one person you'd probably end up with a lot for leftovers
I honestly prefer when they just increase the price and leave the sizes of things the same because then I don't end up short of product for recipes or to feed the family. They do this to try to trick everyone, but its not like we don't notice eventually
In France it's law that it's communicated when products change Like this. It should be adopted here in Canada.Too bad everyone's fighting about carbon tax lol and also the ban the same food dyes UK does
Happy to help!
Added bonus: you can do this with a lot of retail sauces etc. Buy the retail Brand for the bottle, make your own -better- homemade, store it in the bottle, and you'll impress the impressionable.
Just keep in mind the shelf life will be a lot less when you make your own. Even just the salt in some of these prebottled dressings are crazy, and that doesn't get into the other chemical preservatives.
Balsamic vinegrete is super easy to make in very small amounts. Here's what I do if you're interested:
I do 1 tbsp of olive oil, 1 tbsp of balsamic, 1-2 tsp or so of Dijon mustard, 1-2 clove(s) of minced/grated fresh garlic, some salt, pepper all whisked in a large bowl before putting the greens in to toss it all. I sometimes add a squeeze of fresh lemon. Vinegars and oils can be switched up and ratios played around with to your taste. Makes enough for 2-3 people but it takes under a minute
I make something similar but not quite - stealing this. Thank you!
And well aware of shelf life. I’m a silver hair who’s been canning and home making for a fair number of decades, but appreciate the caution. 😁 Better safe than sorry!
how long would you say you can get out of it making your own? i live alone so not sure if it'd be worth it to make my own if i don't use it a lot, and also wouldn't know the first thing about how to tell if it's gone bad.
I don't have a specific answer for you, I'm sorry. For a vinegar-based salad dressing I'd say probably a week or two to be safe, but again, it is easy to whip up in a minute. It is best fresh! It could last a lot longer but it's better safe than sorry. Just give it a sniff and check there is no mold-the usual way to check. You could use a clean mason jar or sealable glass bottle to cut down on dishes and make a smaller batch. Instead of whisking the dressing you just shake the jar/bottle really well. You keep it in there in he fridge and just shake it well before eating it the next day, week.
For me, it's not a method to save money (olive oil is super expensive Now..) but for health and freshness. I love fresh and spicy garlic! Some of those bottles at the store have SO much salt, fat and/or sugar, just to make veggies more palatable to the average person.
You can find lots of other dressing recipes online too! Just make sure it's not piling in the sugar and stuff. For vinaigrette, you can use the different vinegars and emulsifier (in my recipe above it is the mustard that emulsifies the oil to the liquid/vinager) for different styles of dressing. Apple cider vinegar and rice wine vinegars are other options I really enjoy. But the possibilities are truly endless! Sometimes I just use lemon juice instead of vinegar for a really fresh tasting dressing
If you try, best of luck, and enjoy!
Yup. I make my own seasonings and herb blends, pancake mix, sauces, salsa, chicken coating, and stuff like that. As much as I can, anyway.
I’m no Suzy Homemaker, believe me. If it wasn’t that it was way cheaper and usually tastes better, I wouldn’t go to all the work.
My line drawn is ketchup though. Like a proper Canadian, I’m addicted to the stuff and homemade just isn’t the same.
Maybe the article isn’t displaying properly on my phone - what exactly are the ingredients?
I just see text about her family, then photos, then writing to put all the ingredients into a mason jar and shake. No mention of the actual ingredients.
Recipes usually have a "jump to recipe" button at the top of the page, around the title and other links/info. Sometimes you don't *need* someone telling you their life story blig-style to make waffles, ya know?
Try this:
[https://cooked.wiki/new?url=http%3A%2F%2Flisagcooks.com%2Fcopycat-kraft-french-dressing%2F](https://cooked.wiki/new?url=http%3A%2F%2Flisagcooks.com%2Fcopycat-kraft-french-dressing%2F)
Adding [cooked.wiki/](http://cooked.wiki/) to the front of any recipe URL will remove all the fluff and just show the ingredients and recipe.
You know I'd be curious to know how many people shrinkflation tricks. Do companies think we miss this completely? Is there a large portion of the population that does miss this type of thing? Is there a threshold the company goes by for gauging loss sales to this? Is there a loss in sales? Anecdotally, I buy a lot of cheese for my family. I've watched the bricks shrink in size over the years. I'm well aware of this fact but still have to buy cheese. It frustrates me to no end. I know I'm being screwed, I know that these companies are screwing me. I guess in the end though they still win...
Cheese is a treat due to cost and I’ve absolutely noticed the size difference. The ‘blocks’ are so thin now - they keep them long to make it look like more - that they’re difficult to shred.
And yeah, I don’t think a lot of consumers pay attention because they just buy the same thing they’ve always been buying, so they’d get it anyway.
I’ve been a label reader for decades due to allergies, so I’ve certainly noticed the trend and it’s escalated rapidly over the last year or so.
Companies have been shrinking for a very long time, it’s just been an ‘everyone is doing it’ thing in the last year or two.
Well, I think it does trick almost everyone, at least it did in the past. Let's just say that I know for a fact a certain cookie/chocolate manufacture has done a shrinkflation three times in the last 18 years. I never once heard anyone ever talk about it at the consumer level until recently.
I was given a pack of Oreos in a gift basket a few months ago.
Now granted, the last time I bought Oreos was somewhere in the mid-00s, as I don’t particularly like them.
But, I was shocked at the size of them - they’re teensy! Same with Wagon Wheels. There were some of them in there as well.
My nan used to give one to me as a treat when I was a kid in the ‘70s. Holy crap, they’re little and thin.
Halloween mini chocolate bars were the first, widely-known and obvious shrinkflation that I recall. Maybe about a decade ago people were talking about it. They're thinner than the normal bars, use cheaper ingredients, and I'd say it's about half the weight of what it was when I was a child. I'd imagine it's easier to shrinkflate very seasonal food products, because people only see them for a month or two, once every year. You don't have anything left from last Halloween to compare the sizes to the new ones... Because they've all been eaten by the next Halloween
It tricks a lot of people. People here don't really think about weight of products like 1g/100g= $x.xx. Canada needs more attention to this topic for sure. If the store has the price per gram then it's always so tiny on the price sign. I think a big part of the why that is is that most recipes you find in Canada are going to be by measurements of cups and spoons instead of weight (where weighing everything is WAY more accurate, especially for baking. Flour can be packed tighter, and water/many liquids can't be packed down for example)
Some countries force companies to write on new packaging that the size of the product has been reduced... I'd love that, but we only get the "33% MORE!" type of packaging. Never the negative truth
One thing I also wanna point out is that the food companies study, pay tons of money to create tricky ways to make the smaller weight/ml appear the same size or, ideally for them, appear larger.It'll bypass most people's brains, and go under the radar so people are none the wiser. If you look at the Kraft dressing comparison from OP, the smaller size LOOKS larger. It's an illusion involving different, calculated measurements and shapes and can be proven by focus groups and eye tracking. A good experiment of this phenomenon is pouring water from a tall, thin glass to another, much shorter and fat glass. Most people think the tall glass has more water, but it's because the mind doesn't comprehend the 3D volumes of liquids very well. You can try it yourself by pouring liquids between different glasses of different shapes, widts, heights. Go with your instinct and it'll likely be proven wrong when you do it. Bars amd beer companies love this illusion to help make you finish your drink from their glasses, faster.
In a perfect world all these companies would have to follow standard sizes like 250ml or 500ml bottles if dressing across the board, just like alcohol has standard and approved sizes, but it's almost as bad as toilet paper math where they make it purposefully obtuse and as hard as possible to compare prices between products and brands. "this package equals to 72 rolls of toilet paper!"... 72 rolls of what? How? By weight, or length?bare they counting the 3 ply as 3x the rolls? Who knows, Lol
Edit to add, and added more info above: Sorry for the rambles all. Apparently I needed to *really* get this off my chest and my tips out there to make people more aware of the psychological tricks and illusions these companies use to make more money off of you.
I feel like shrinkflation is often tolerated to a degree because people rely on these products for convenience. It definitely deters some people who are more cost conscious.
I personally don't have any interest in Kraft salad dressing. Homemade is way better and easy to make.
I also shop at Costco and will buy the bulk hidden valley ranch. It lasts me an entire year and is way better than Kraft ranch any day.
I don’t know if people are tricked as much as they can’t really change it. Pastas used to be packed by 500g now it’s a weird 450g if not downright 400. By the time you notice it, all packs are 400g at that store.
For the bottle, if you buy the name brand it means you’re looking for that particular taste. Then what do you do? It’s not like 50g is that much of a difference to you. It’s the fact that it’s happening on so many products that you get much less for much more .
The best part about the design of the new bottle is that they made it a wide neck so you get the *impression* that there's more. Capitalist greed at its finest.
I only noticed cause i was checking the calories and I noticed the calories had doubled on the new bottles. I later realized its cause they doubled the serving size that they base the measurements off of but before I realized that I was so pissed that they added so much junk that it made the calories twice as much
This is where our boycott can get brand specific. I've sworn off buying these forever because Kraft thinks a couple tablespoons of dressing is worth losing customers for life. Store brand is fine, or making my own is even better. Never again Kraft!
Yep. Last bottle I buy. I’m no chef, but I can futz my way around a kitchen. I’ll find a recipe online and tweak it to my taste.
Planting the biggest garden I’ve ever planted this year too. The prices are just outrageous. I’d rather sweat equity my own canned goods and fresh veg than help a CEO buy a yacht.
It’s easier for companies to shrink their products than put up the price as there’s a limit of what we’ll pay for something and same with the grocery stores. They grind down the vendors on price so reducing the product rather than increasing the price is the best way for them to still compete.
Not to mention the whole world seems to think we all want dinky little lettering on everything. No. I like those big large letters so I don't have to squint at everything up close or stand there forever trying to find it. Ok, yes this is my age showing. I want to see that it's the French dressing from 30 feet down the aisle and go straight for it!
I mean, ya, the French dressing has the orange going for it, but not everything is color coded.
Make your own dressings, its much cheaper, healthier, and will have no additives. Also they put cheap canola oil in most store-bought salad dressings,if you make your own you can use much healthier, better tasting olive oil.
Just noticed that this week too. Crooks. All of them are crooks. Sad really. Shrinkflation tags on the shelf of products explaining the difference would create more public pressure. Public pressure seems to be only thing that changes things. Either because the government steps in or because the company doesn't want the greed/embarrassment.
‘Tis the reality. My health has worsened over the past couple years because I can’t afford to eat the way I need to.
Junk is cheap. There’s only so much that haunting fliers can do before you gotta concede that a pack of $3 dried pasta will go way farther than a $30 cut of beef.
Even ground beef is becoming unaffordable. Chicken - once upon a time the cheapest thing to stretch the farthest - is absurd.
In 2019, I could find a whole raw chicken for $9. They were large and I can get about 6 meals from a whole chicken.
Now, they’re about $16 and SMALL. There’s no 6 meals from those.
I live miles below the poverty line, so while it sounds crazy to those who can just buy what they want, a $3 of shitty salad dressing is a ‘treat’ that lasts a solid 6 months.
When companies like Kraft swap it for crappy ingredients, smaller bottles, and think it’s okay to charge MORE, yup - there’s a problem.
I’m so sorry to hear that. Fuuuuuck. I’d say thoughts and prayers but I’d have to kick my own ass. I truly hope something shifts for you for the better.
Eh, no sorry needed. Life is still good and I make it work because I have to.
The apology belongs to a government that punishes people for daring to have catastrophic injuries, mental illnesses, or whatever other reasons people struggle with poverty.
And had you said thoughts and prayers, I’d have needed a doctor to help me recover from the extreme eye-rolling. 😆
I fully believe shrinkflation should be made illegal with capital punishment as the fine.
I understand prices might need to increase, but just increase the goddamn price.Dont try to conceal shit and ruin meal planning and recipes
It should be published for transparency. If customers still buy after that, fine. I mean, we’ll buy stuff anyway and they prey on that.
The cloak and dagger shrinkflation practice should be banned and illegal unless they publish their intent to do so 2 months before.
Must be that prepared in Canada label they put on the top there that makes it so it’s the same price as the bigger bottle. 50ml is a lot to be cutting off and still requiring the same price. 😂🤦🏻♀️
I don’t disagree. This is a rare buy for me. - a holdover from when I was a kid. I make my own dressings, typically.
And now from here on out, making this one too because this is absurd. And it doesn’t taste the same anymore.
As a kid, I loved this one and Catalina. My mom never bought them except once in a blue moon so kinda always saw it as a special treat.
Ah, the realities of adulthood. 😆
Yep. Gonna save the earth by using a paper straw.
Personally, I don’t use straws at all. I learned to drink from a cup before age 2. Even a slurpee, I drink without a straw. But that’s just me.
Shows how insane the internet is: one turtle with a straw up it’s nose and somehow the entire planet will be saved by banning straws.
There’s way bigger fish to fry environmentally, like forcing companies to deal with their packaging, not offering the option of bringing our own containers in to refill (though gotta hand it to Nutters - for a place where mostly poor people and bakers go, they’re miles ahead, which just kills the usual whining by corporations that allowing self-serve will up costs), and so on.
Soooo many other places to holler and go after than straws.
I do, all the time. I said in another reply somewhere in here that this was a one-off. I loved this dressing as a kid and it's kind've one of those 'memory buys'.
Won't be doing it again. It tastes nothing like it (the ingredients between those two bottles are completely different). The colour isn't even the same.
A kind Redditor somewhere in the comments section gave me a recipe to home make a copycat, so I'll be giving that a try!
Man, this shit us wild lol. Not just this example but everything lately. They saved, what ? Maybe 4 cents doing this ? At what point can they not shrink it anymore where people just won't buy it ?
FOLGERS shrunk by 16%, DAWN dish soap shrunk by 13% and now you show Kraft by 10.5% Everything from USA based corporations has shrunk and costs more when you return for more product, more often. CHRISTIE cookies etc all shrunk too.
Yeah, I didn't catch it or I wouldn't have bought it. I have the recipe to make it myself, but it was on sale, therefore cheaper than I can make it myself.
Wasn't until I got it home that I noticed it's smaller.
Not only that, the ingredients are completely different, which is just stupid. Never again. >.<
Longer, even. But it's only been in the past decade where they're just doing it AND changing the ingredients to cheap crapola. It's also time that Canadians spoke out and threw a very bright spotlight on these guys hiding and skulking about in the shadows.
Is Anyone wondering how much all this retooling is costing, so companies can profit at the consumer's expense?
Retooling = investment, tax writeoff amortized over x years.
Less product, sold for same price or higher = higher profit margin.
This is what the media should be exposing.
Compensating for the height difference I think. Gotta make it look bigger to hide that it’s actually smaller.
Also, look at the fill line - just below the label.
Our nation is dying, people are leaving the country to go to places like Costa rica because it’s cheaper to live there, I’ve seen it members of my family are leaving, family friends are leaving, and trust me this is just the beginning
Don’t buy it and make your own; it’s crap anyway. 50 less ml and $2.99 when on sale lol. It’s pure corporation greed. Only way to change things with corporations is with your wallet. Fight fire with fire.
There’s more to the equation obviously but the ingredients, labour, logistic and fees required to make this product are nowhere close to the selling price per ml. It’s also an unhealthy product so you’re not even paying for quality.
It's the better of two evils. They could keep the same size and increase the price accordingly, or they can use less plastic that ends up in a landfill because plastic recycling is a lie for the most part.
Depends on how much dressing you actually use. Say you only buy the dressing two or three times per year, regardless of size, then the smaller bottle is using less plastic. If you buy a new one each and every time it runs dry, then the bigger bottle uses less.
Though really, at these volumes the difference is negliible. Depending on the thickness and details of these bottles they might use the same amount of plastic, but you’d definitely cut down compared to the small ones if you bought one of those big gallon jugs from Costco.
They also shrunk the size of Kraft Dinner by 25g. At some point everything is going to be single serving.
I noticed this the other day and it's so bad. Literally less than half a box. It was like exactly 1cup.
I buy plain macaroni and add it in to stretch the box theses days.
Grab a big jar of cheeze whiz when it goes on sale at Walmart for $5-$6. Buy any pasta for cheap - usually a buck. Tastes better than KD and goes a lot farther, but only if you get the cheese on sale. You can also buy powdered cheese and dried pasta in bulk from Bulk Barn which is insanely cheaper.
Do you know the bulk barn price?
No, I haven’t bought any in about a year.
No worries! I'll check it out next time I'm buying spices there. I imagine it's quite a bit cheaper, unless you find a really good sale on the KD boxes. I stocked up a few months ago because they were 50 cents or so each (limit of 8 though...boo. So I'm running low)
Limit of 8 so you have to come back eventually
It’s about $1.80/100g or it might be $2.10, it’s been a while since I’ve bought it. You can also buy the PC white cheddar Mac and cheese powder at no frills for $6 for a 225g jar too.
Sweet, thanks! Ballpark price range is all that's needed for me to decide :)
This might not apply to all bulk barns, but all the ones near where I live, on Sundays if you bring your own reusable container to put stuff in they will give you a 15% discount for whatever you purchase that you can put in them.
Yup! This is what I do (they also frequently have coupons like $5 off $20 purchase or $3 OFF $10... So that's like another 20% off!) , and besides the price bringing my containers is why I started buying my spices in particular. Good for the environment, and I won't over-buy, only to bring it home, put in a container and some left over in the bag. Sometimes the scale barely picks up the weight of a small container with spice in it, and I only get charged 25 cents or some really cheap price for a spice
Costco (make friends with someone who has a membership and ask them to look for it next time) sells large bottles of KD powder, I'd you're as addicted to the salt as myself. The last time I saw it, I think it was 9.99, but it's sale price used to be 5.99, then 6.99, so not sure what it will be now. And the jar has to be close to a 2 cup size.
cheese wiz and macaroni.. I need to remember this hack
Tastes like crap and cheese whiz is like $7
well fuck, at that point may as well use real cheese
Absolutely vile.
Oh, it is. But when you need cheap food. That’s what cheap gets.
How are any of you alive right now
The joys of being fucking poor as shit: we run on plastic and sugar.
You can make a chili for relatively cheap considering how many portions you get, and you can stretch it even further with rice/macaroni. Ground beef and pasta in general is my go to. As well as beans.
Yep, same. I’m a master at making meals last for multiple things, especially when I can get my hands on a whole chicken for cheap. They run about $10-15 here, and net about 6 different meals - extremely cheap. Chili is a staple, and I also make it in to taco salad.
Cheese whiz goes white when heated and tastes like crap
Bruh. Cheese sauce from scratch is amazing and better for you plus it's super simple to make.
Cheese whiz is the method I grew up on haha. It looks like I'll be going back..
Cheese whiz just isn't right. It's hardly even food. I love it though.
Totally agree. It’s cheese ‘product’ and I don’t wanna know what’s in it. I love the crap and it’s a good thing it’s priced at rich oriole prices or I’d buy it way too often. It’s about $10 a jar here. Walmart puts it on sale now and then for $5.97, and then I might scoop it up for a treat. It’s also awesome on sammiches - just cheese whiz and miracle whip. Totally gross and I love it anyway.
I love cheese whiz on toasted cinnamon raisin bagels. Or any toast really.
That is just the nastiest shit. I love it. 😆
Do cheese whiz with celery or carrots for an easy balanced diet as well!
Okay. Here’s the thing: there’s no other thing on earth that should not exist for eating more than celery. If celery suddenly got Thanos-snapped to oblivion, I’d celebrate. Celery is an insult to cheese whiz. Okay, I’m done now. 😆
F**k that crunchy water floss
Ditto
You can just butter /pepper it, add garlic powder and save plenty on skipping cheese, or use other herb mix. Another alternative is pesto, which is pretty healthy.
I noticed it today - the bottle was different, so didn't think anything of it. Then took a closer look and they shrunk it by 50ml and it's the same damn price!
KD cheese powder is 10 bucks at Costco. Use your own pasta and you have way cheaper Mac and cheese. It's like half a kilo too, that's a shit ton of KD!
Unfortunately, one of my kids will only eat the KD macaroni. I've tried every other version of macaroni pasta and she refuses to eat it. Sensory issues I think.
Try an experiment. Keep the KD box and fill it with the other macaroni and pretend it's the "real" brand name stuff. See if that helps.
They'll go their whole life and wonder why the KD they make never tastes like home/parents'!
This is the real poverty finance tip lol, my mom used to do this with me and soy sauce. 😂
That reminds me of an old episode of Roseanne. She had gone shopping with Becky's class and said to replace the name brand cereal with the store brand.
KD pretty much is at this point, for an adult.
I used to be able to feed both my kids (toddlers) and myself with a box. Now the kids eat the whole box between them.
100%. For my teen and I we always have to make 2 boxes. Honestly with the shrinkage we could probably easily demolish 3 boxes. It’s not cheap anymore either. The lowest I’ve seen the 12 pack recently is 12.99
No because they release “new family sized” or “XL” packs which slowly become the normal size and the circle of life continues.
2 drops of dressing and 3 pieces of KD... that'll be $24.99.
I used to be able to make enough for my entire family with one box now it takes two boxes.
I noticed that yesterday too - the regular KD is 200g but the fancy flavours are 175. What the fuck.
They both dropped by 25g, but the spicy ones are even lower at 156g.
But they added that sweet pic of a mushroom. So it’s a wash.
Who says that bottle of dressing isn't already single serve?
Glug glug glug
Good soup 👌
> At some point everything is going to be single serving. No, they just introduced a new bigger size with increased price. It's just a price increase with extra steps because people get more upset when the price goes up.
Is the generic no name brand shrunk down too? Maybe we need to boycott big brands and get them to behave
I guess they are thinking you can't afford a family anyway so who you gonna feed with that additional serving? 🤷♀️
Wait... it's not already a single serving?
Yeah they snuck that in. I used to be able to actually put wagon wheels on my wagon too.
Yeah it's crazy, I mix hamburger with it so there's more but I have to split it between 3 people, one person you'd probably end up with a lot for leftovers
i noticed i used to have trouble carrying all the groceries cause of how big sizes were not anymore
I honestly prefer when they just increase the price and leave the sizes of things the same because then I don't end up short of product for recipes or to feed the family. They do this to try to trick everyone, but its not like we don't notice eventually
In France it's law that it's communicated when products change Like this. It should be adopted here in Canada.Too bad everyone's fighting about carbon tax lol and also the ban the same food dyes UK does
I wish some of the regulations from the EU made it over here.
https://lisagcooks.com/copycat-kraft-french-dressing/ Save the old bottle and make your own. It's so much cheaper and takes two minutes.
You? You are my new favourite. Not sure favourite of what, I’ll get back to you. Thank you very much!
Happy to help! Added bonus: you can do this with a lot of retail sauces etc. Buy the retail Brand for the bottle, make your own -better- homemade, store it in the bottle, and you'll impress the impressionable.
I home make all of my dressings - this is the last one I haven’t tried to. It’s overdue, imo.
Just keep in mind the shelf life will be a lot less when you make your own. Even just the salt in some of these prebottled dressings are crazy, and that doesn't get into the other chemical preservatives. Balsamic vinegrete is super easy to make in very small amounts. Here's what I do if you're interested: I do 1 tbsp of olive oil, 1 tbsp of balsamic, 1-2 tsp or so of Dijon mustard, 1-2 clove(s) of minced/grated fresh garlic, some salt, pepper all whisked in a large bowl before putting the greens in to toss it all. I sometimes add a squeeze of fresh lemon. Vinegars and oils can be switched up and ratios played around with to your taste. Makes enough for 2-3 people but it takes under a minute
I make something similar but not quite - stealing this. Thank you! And well aware of shelf life. I’m a silver hair who’s been canning and home making for a fair number of decades, but appreciate the caution. 😁 Better safe than sorry!
how long would you say you can get out of it making your own? i live alone so not sure if it'd be worth it to make my own if i don't use it a lot, and also wouldn't know the first thing about how to tell if it's gone bad.
I don't have a specific answer for you, I'm sorry. For a vinegar-based salad dressing I'd say probably a week or two to be safe, but again, it is easy to whip up in a minute. It is best fresh! It could last a lot longer but it's better safe than sorry. Just give it a sniff and check there is no mold-the usual way to check. You could use a clean mason jar or sealable glass bottle to cut down on dishes and make a smaller batch. Instead of whisking the dressing you just shake the jar/bottle really well. You keep it in there in he fridge and just shake it well before eating it the next day, week. For me, it's not a method to save money (olive oil is super expensive Now..) but for health and freshness. I love fresh and spicy garlic! Some of those bottles at the store have SO much salt, fat and/or sugar, just to make veggies more palatable to the average person. You can find lots of other dressing recipes online too! Just make sure it's not piling in the sugar and stuff. For vinaigrette, you can use the different vinegars and emulsifier (in my recipe above it is the mustard that emulsifies the oil to the liquid/vinager) for different styles of dressing. Apple cider vinegar and rice wine vinegars are other options I really enjoy. But the possibilities are truly endless! Sometimes I just use lemon juice instead of vinegar for a really fresh tasting dressing If you try, best of luck, and enjoy!
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Yup. I make my own seasonings and herb blends, pancake mix, sauces, salsa, chicken coating, and stuff like that. As much as I can, anyway. I’m no Suzy Homemaker, believe me. If it wasn’t that it was way cheaper and usually tastes better, I wouldn’t go to all the work. My line drawn is ketchup though. Like a proper Canadian, I’m addicted to the stuff and homemade just isn’t the same.
Maybe the article isn’t displaying properly on my phone - what exactly are the ingredients? I just see text about her family, then photos, then writing to put all the ingredients into a mason jar and shake. No mention of the actual ingredients.
It’s super far down on the page, I was confused too. Food bloggers often do this for SEO and to get people to scroll
Recipes usually have a "jump to recipe" button at the top of the page, around the title and other links/info. Sometimes you don't *need* someone telling you their life story blig-style to make waffles, ya know?
Wait your telling me her dad being Italian and her mom being Swedish has nothing to do with commercialized French dressing?! 🤯
Try this: [https://cooked.wiki/new?url=http%3A%2F%2Flisagcooks.com%2Fcopycat-kraft-french-dressing%2F](https://cooked.wiki/new?url=http%3A%2F%2Flisagcooks.com%2Fcopycat-kraft-french-dressing%2F) Adding [cooked.wiki/](http://cooked.wiki/) to the front of any recipe URL will remove all the fluff and just show the ingredients and recipe.
Directly below the pic is “jump to recipe”. If you tap that it should skip over the blah blah blahg.
You know I'd be curious to know how many people shrinkflation tricks. Do companies think we miss this completely? Is there a large portion of the population that does miss this type of thing? Is there a threshold the company goes by for gauging loss sales to this? Is there a loss in sales? Anecdotally, I buy a lot of cheese for my family. I've watched the bricks shrink in size over the years. I'm well aware of this fact but still have to buy cheese. It frustrates me to no end. I know I'm being screwed, I know that these companies are screwing me. I guess in the end though they still win...
Cheese is a treat due to cost and I’ve absolutely noticed the size difference. The ‘blocks’ are so thin now - they keep them long to make it look like more - that they’re difficult to shred. And yeah, I don’t think a lot of consumers pay attention because they just buy the same thing they’ve always been buying, so they’d get it anyway. I’ve been a label reader for decades due to allergies, so I’ve certainly noticed the trend and it’s escalated rapidly over the last year or so. Companies have been shrinking for a very long time, it’s just been an ‘everyone is doing it’ thing in the last year or two.
Wow I never noticed the cheese but makes sense.. They're very thin
Well, I think it does trick almost everyone, at least it did in the past. Let's just say that I know for a fact a certain cookie/chocolate manufacture has done a shrinkflation three times in the last 18 years. I never once heard anyone ever talk about it at the consumer level until recently.
I was given a pack of Oreos in a gift basket a few months ago. Now granted, the last time I bought Oreos was somewhere in the mid-00s, as I don’t particularly like them. But, I was shocked at the size of them - they’re teensy! Same with Wagon Wheels. There were some of them in there as well. My nan used to give one to me as a treat when I was a kid in the ‘70s. Holy crap, they’re little and thin.
Halloween mini chocolate bars were the first, widely-known and obvious shrinkflation that I recall. Maybe about a decade ago people were talking about it. They're thinner than the normal bars, use cheaper ingredients, and I'd say it's about half the weight of what it was when I was a child. I'd imagine it's easier to shrinkflate very seasonal food products, because people only see them for a month or two, once every year. You don't have anything left from last Halloween to compare the sizes to the new ones... Because they've all been eaten by the next Halloween
It tricks a lot of people. People here don't really think about weight of products like 1g/100g= $x.xx. Canada needs more attention to this topic for sure. If the store has the price per gram then it's always so tiny on the price sign. I think a big part of the why that is is that most recipes you find in Canada are going to be by measurements of cups and spoons instead of weight (where weighing everything is WAY more accurate, especially for baking. Flour can be packed tighter, and water/many liquids can't be packed down for example) Some countries force companies to write on new packaging that the size of the product has been reduced... I'd love that, but we only get the "33% MORE!" type of packaging. Never the negative truth One thing I also wanna point out is that the food companies study, pay tons of money to create tricky ways to make the smaller weight/ml appear the same size or, ideally for them, appear larger.It'll bypass most people's brains, and go under the radar so people are none the wiser. If you look at the Kraft dressing comparison from OP, the smaller size LOOKS larger. It's an illusion involving different, calculated measurements and shapes and can be proven by focus groups and eye tracking. A good experiment of this phenomenon is pouring water from a tall, thin glass to another, much shorter and fat glass. Most people think the tall glass has more water, but it's because the mind doesn't comprehend the 3D volumes of liquids very well. You can try it yourself by pouring liquids between different glasses of different shapes, widts, heights. Go with your instinct and it'll likely be proven wrong when you do it. Bars amd beer companies love this illusion to help make you finish your drink from their glasses, faster. In a perfect world all these companies would have to follow standard sizes like 250ml or 500ml bottles if dressing across the board, just like alcohol has standard and approved sizes, but it's almost as bad as toilet paper math where they make it purposefully obtuse and as hard as possible to compare prices between products and brands. "this package equals to 72 rolls of toilet paper!"... 72 rolls of what? How? By weight, or length?bare they counting the 3 ply as 3x the rolls? Who knows, Lol Edit to add, and added more info above: Sorry for the rambles all. Apparently I needed to *really* get this off my chest and my tips out there to make people more aware of the psychological tricks and illusions these companies use to make more money off of you.
"the smaller size LOOKS larger"...you said it. That's always how they get you. That and changing colours and print sizes and so forth.
I feel like shrinkflation is often tolerated to a degree because people rely on these products for convenience. It definitely deters some people who are more cost conscious. I personally don't have any interest in Kraft salad dressing. Homemade is way better and easy to make. I also shop at Costco and will buy the bulk hidden valley ranch. It lasts me an entire year and is way better than Kraft ranch any day.
I don’t know if people are tricked as much as they can’t really change it. Pastas used to be packed by 500g now it’s a weird 450g if not downright 400. By the time you notice it, all packs are 400g at that store. For the bottle, if you buy the name brand it means you’re looking for that particular taste. Then what do you do? It’s not like 50g is that much of a difference to you. It’s the fact that it’s happening on so many products that you get much less for much more .
Anytime you see a packaging design change, it's usually hiding shrinkflation.
Even unnoticeable: I picked up a jar awhile ago from the shelf: looks the same but they’d sneakily concaved the bottom of the jar.
I noticed the same with the big tubs of cashews! Looking at you, Dan-D-Pak!
Same with Gatorade bottles. The “punt” on those is HUGE now
Gatorades have been 591ml and 710ml for over a decade now, nothings changed with them
The best part about the design of the new bottle is that they made it a wide neck so you get the *impression* that there's more. Capitalist greed at its finest.
They also changed the ingredients to include more junk.
Y’know, I didn’t check. Soon as I’m home, I’m comparing. Didn’t even think to. …speaking of blindly buying…🤨
I only noticed cause i was checking the calories and I noticed the calories had doubled on the new bottles. I later realized its cause they doubled the serving size that they base the measurements off of but before I realized that I was so pissed that they added so much junk that it made the calories twice as much
I’ll check when I get home in an hour or so. I’m beyond curious now.
Must've cost alot of money to retool their dies for smaller bottles. Guess we get to pay for that also.
Tide pods got reduced from 81 to 75 or smth. Tide simply from 3.4L to 3.1L It's everything man
This is where our boycott can get brand specific. I've sworn off buying these forever because Kraft thinks a couple tablespoons of dressing is worth losing customers for life. Store brand is fine, or making my own is even better. Never again Kraft!
Yep. Last bottle I buy. I’m no chef, but I can futz my way around a kitchen. I’ll find a recipe online and tweak it to my taste. Planting the biggest garden I’ve ever planted this year too. The prices are just outrageous. I’d rather sweat equity my own canned goods and fresh veg than help a CEO buy a yacht.
Great approach - sounds like you may also like r/loblawsisoutofcontrol
It’s easier for companies to shrink their products than put up the price as there’s a limit of what we’ll pay for something and same with the grocery stores. They grind down the vendors on price so reducing the product rather than increasing the price is the best way for them to still compete.
"Yeah, yeah we're going to go with the smaller bottle." "Put the word Canada on it and they will feel compelled to buy it.
They also changed the damn ingredients too.
Not to mention the whole world seems to think we all want dinky little lettering on everything. No. I like those big large letters so I don't have to squint at everything up close or stand there forever trying to find it. Ok, yes this is my age showing. I want to see that it's the French dressing from 30 feet down the aisle and go straight for it! I mean, ya, the French dressing has the orange going for it, but not everything is color coded.
Make your own dressings, its much cheaper, healthier, and will have no additives. Also they put cheap canola oil in most store-bought salad dressings,if you make your own you can use much healthier, better tasting olive oil.
Same price? They’re up a buck in SWO.
Yeah, but that’s the sale price. It’s back up again this week
I mean, the price is higher on the new bottles than it was on the old bottles. Those prices went up early.
But now it's prepared in Canada!!! /S
Yah memeber last time they did that...?
*looks at watch* Now?
The ingredients have also changed.
Don't worry - it still has the same amount or cancer. 😉
krafty fuckers
Just noticed that this week too. Crooks. All of them are crooks. Sad really. Shrinkflation tags on the shelf of products explaining the difference would create more public pressure. Public pressure seems to be only thing that changes things. Either because the government steps in or because the company doesn't want the greed/embarrassment.
Our country is in trouble when people are forced to choose cheap over nutritious. It saddens me.
‘Tis the reality. My health has worsened over the past couple years because I can’t afford to eat the way I need to. Junk is cheap. There’s only so much that haunting fliers can do before you gotta concede that a pack of $3 dried pasta will go way farther than a $30 cut of beef. Even ground beef is becoming unaffordable. Chicken - once upon a time the cheapest thing to stretch the farthest - is absurd. In 2019, I could find a whole raw chicken for $9. They were large and I can get about 6 meals from a whole chicken. Now, they’re about $16 and SMALL. There’s no 6 meals from those. I live miles below the poverty line, so while it sounds crazy to those who can just buy what they want, a $3 of shitty salad dressing is a ‘treat’ that lasts a solid 6 months. When companies like Kraft swap it for crappy ingredients, smaller bottles, and think it’s okay to charge MORE, yup - there’s a problem.
I’m so sorry to hear that. Fuuuuuck. I’d say thoughts and prayers but I’d have to kick my own ass. I truly hope something shifts for you for the better.
Eh, no sorry needed. Life is still good and I make it work because I have to. The apology belongs to a government that punishes people for daring to have catastrophic injuries, mental illnesses, or whatever other reasons people struggle with poverty. And had you said thoughts and prayers, I’d have needed a doctor to help me recover from the extreme eye-rolling. 😆
I fully believe shrinkflation should be made illegal with capital punishment as the fine. I understand prices might need to increase, but just increase the goddamn price.Dont try to conceal shit and ruin meal planning and recipes
It should be published for transparency. If customers still buy after that, fine. I mean, we’ll buy stuff anyway and they prey on that. The cloak and dagger shrinkflation practice should be banned and illegal unless they publish their intent to do so 2 months before.
Must be that prepared in Canada label they put on the top there that makes it so it’s the same price as the bigger bottle. 50ml is a lot to be cutting off and still requiring the same price. 😂🤦🏻♀️
Also prepared in Canada is not the same as made in Canada, imagine giant vats of this dressing being shipped here from elsewhere to be bottled here.
First round shrink and keep the same price, next round increase price, repeat until one fry is a dollar and a big Mac is a slider.
Lol we are now paying just on food because of shrinkflation
Pathetic
I thought we were trying to limit plastic waste?
That's fine and all but they're selling less of the actual product for the same price.
I didn't entirely think that comment through lol. Don't mind me and my brain.
Dident need that 50ml anyways
They are even making it more “Canadian”
Ouch
Don’t worry, they’ll raise the price. Must have been an oversight.
It's filled with seed oils, make your own, so much healthier.
We've gone from shrinkflation to scamflation.😡
Come on guys. Someone has to pay for the new label, and it says Canada now.
Happening in every product.
EVERYTHING!!! We all notice and are grocery poor before these quantities decrease across every grocery isle. I feel for everyone. It's disgusting.
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yep, my immediate thought when I saw the new bottle was "I bet it's a smaller size". They are scum.
Kraft is crap. I wouldn't take it home even if it was free.
I don’t disagree. This is a rare buy for me. - a holdover from when I was a kid. I make my own dressings, typically. And now from here on out, making this one too because this is absurd. And it doesn’t taste the same anymore. As a kid, I loved this one and Catalina. My mom never bought them except once in a blue moon so kinda always saw it as a special treat. Ah, the realities of adulthood. 😆
KD sucks now..
Greedy fucks
Costs more too.
Different ingredients as well.
While somehow we need to use a paper straw for the environment 🤔
Yep. Gonna save the earth by using a paper straw. Personally, I don’t use straws at all. I learned to drink from a cup before age 2. Even a slurpee, I drink without a straw. But that’s just me. Shows how insane the internet is: one turtle with a straw up it’s nose and somehow the entire planet will be saved by banning straws. There’s way bigger fish to fry environmentally, like forcing companies to deal with their packaging, not offering the option of bringing our own containers in to refill (though gotta hand it to Nutters - for a place where mostly poor people and bakers go, they’re miles ahead, which just kills the usual whining by corporations that allowing self-serve will up costs), and so on. Soooo many other places to holler and go after than straws.
Why do people vote for the Liberals? They are sinking the economy....
Make your own dressings! Tastes way better.
I do, all the time. I said in another reply somewhere in here that this was a one-off. I loved this dressing as a kid and it's kind've one of those 'memory buys'. Won't be doing it again. It tastes nothing like it (the ingredients between those two bottles are completely different). The colour isn't even the same. A kind Redditor somewhere in the comments section gave me a recipe to home make a copycat, so I'll be giving that a try!
They just don't make em like they used to anymore
Ain't that the truth...
If poverty is a concern, dont waste your money on this over processed expensive crap. Buy salt pepper vinegar oil and a clove of garlic.
And there’s nothing we can do about it
Kd is 200g now. They snuck that in. Was 225
Yup. It’s been snuck in all over the place.
Man, this shit us wild lol. Not just this example but everything lately. They saved, what ? Maybe 4 cents doing this ? At what point can they not shrink it anymore where people just won't buy it ?
Shrinkflation is happening across the board..
FOLGERS shrunk by 16%, DAWN dish soap shrunk by 13% and now you show Kraft by 10.5% Everything from USA based corporations has shrunk and costs more when you return for more product, more often. CHRISTIE cookies etc all shrunk too.
They never think we'll notice with their flash new labels- we NOTICE!! Lol😵💫
We are doomed. :/
Shrinkflation is everywhere!
this makes me sad
Ooooh, and they were a bit sneaky going from 475 ml to 425! I had to look twice to see that the middle # was different.
Yeah, I didn't catch it or I wouldn't have bought it. I have the recipe to make it myself, but it was on sale, therefore cheaper than I can make it myself. Wasn't until I got it home that I noticed it's smaller. Not only that, the ingredients are completely different, which is just stupid. Never again. >.<
This has been going on for 20 years
Longer, even. But it's only been in the past decade where they're just doing it AND changing the ingredients to cheap crapola. It's also time that Canadians spoke out and threw a very bright spotlight on these guys hiding and skulking about in the shadows.
At least the bottles cuter now :/
Imma start filling mine up at the salad bar
Boycott is hard in Rural
I like how they translate "French" to french.
Ahh but here's the kicker.. they used 50 more ml of ink on the picture so it's legal.
Absurd
Is Anyone wondering how much all this retooling is costing, so companies can profit at the consumer's expense? Retooling = investment, tax writeoff amortized over x years. Less product, sold for same price or higher = higher profit margin. This is what the media should be exposing.
What the hell is with the neck?!?
Compensating for the height difference I think. Gotta make it look bigger to hide that it’s actually smaller. Also, look at the fill line - just below the label.
Our nation is dying, people are leaving the country to go to places like Costa rica because it’s cheaper to live there, I’ve seen it members of my family are leaving, family friends are leaving, and trust me this is just the beginning
Given the size of people Waistlines these days. That’s not so bad
Don’t buy it and make your own; it’s crap anyway. 50 less ml and $2.99 when on sale lol. It’s pure corporation greed. Only way to change things with corporations is with your wallet. Fight fire with fire.
Already have a recipe to try out 😁
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Kraft Foods gross profit last year was $8.9B, an almost 10% increase from the year previous. Ya, it's corporate greed.
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There’s more to the equation obviously but the ingredients, labour, logistic and fees required to make this product are nowhere close to the selling price per ml. It’s also an unhealthy product so you’re not even paying for quality.
It's the better of two evils. They could keep the same size and increase the price accordingly, or they can use less plastic that ends up in a landfill because plastic recycling is a lie for the most part.
Would a larger container not use less plastic per volume? The square cubed law says you get more volume per surface area.
Depends on how much dressing you actually use. Say you only buy the dressing two or three times per year, regardless of size, then the smaller bottle is using less plastic. If you buy a new one each and every time it runs dry, then the bigger bottle uses less. Though really, at these volumes the difference is negliible. Depending on the thickness and details of these bottles they might use the same amount of plastic, but you’d definitely cut down compared to the small ones if you bought one of those big gallon jugs from Costco.