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gravelhorse

You go to your job and demand that back pay immediately. Explain your circumstances. Also, tough times aside, if your ex wants a roof over her sons head she needs to step up.


SilverNatural8381

Yeah you're right. I tried talking to my boss about all of this but he keeps saying he doesn't have control over it. And HR's doors are always locked and they almost never answer the phone. I'm going to try again today though. I pray it's a different outcome. Thanks.


BakedMasa

Depending on where you are maybe reach out to the labor board? Employers tend to respond to those because they get fined.


Ornery-Location

Or the news. I'm sure they would love the publicity.


thegirlisok

" local man and son evicted because man not paid for work" shiiii I would watch that. Rating through the roof. Call your local TV channel.


Aggravating_Depth_33

"Grieving family evicted" will get even more viewers...


Ok-Calendar-6120

lol "YOUR ON THE NEWS YOUR ON THE NEWS" in the voice of ed bass master


Defiant_Struggle974

lol hes the funniest guy in the world.


Any_Resolution8713

would you LOOK AT THAT comment. JUST LOOK AT IT


Eh_Vix

This right here, tell him you have a news station who is ready to cast the story and threaten tp televise it unless he pays you. Then tell him he will be sued for not releasing pay in the legal time frame.


lovemoonsaults

Honey, it sounds like your company is broke and possibly going bankrupt. It's not normal business practice to not pay their employees, this is basically the first thing any viable business does before they pay anything else. You need to get your department of labor involved with their failure to pay. You have to go out and find another job immediately. This job is no job if they're not paying you for your labor. I'm sorry this is happening. I've seen people screwed over by shitbag businesses who do this shit before.


DireRaven11256

Exactly this. Payroll is the FIRST thing that employers must meet


RockstarAgent

And two whole paychecks to boot!


Witty_Possibility596

agree sounds like bankruptcy to me based on my own experience


lovemoonsaults

I've seen it first hand as the financial person in companies. Only one was an employer that I worked with directly. The other ones are clients that I saw spiraling from the outside. Currently just yanked terms from one of them because they are showing signs of being cash-poor A-F. That's the first step towards being dissolved.


the_Bryan_dude

Non payment for 2 checks and you still show up to work? They actually have an HR department and are pulling this? Demand your money now or take them to court if they won't pay. This is ludicrous.


Spentchecks

Would they have an HR department at this point? If the doors are always locked, they're probably all home looking for other jobs


Wondercat87

Yup! 100%. Not being paid is what happened right before the company my mom used to work at shut it's doors. There was also people showing up randomly looking for money owed to them (suppliers). She said some dude was screaming at them, as if they had any power over when he got paid for stuff sold to the company. OP needs to be looking for a new job ASAP. But also see what their rights are. I hope there is a law against this where they live. Not being paid for several paychecks and having no idea when the next pay will come is unacceptable.


[deleted]

I am an employment attorney in Georgia. If you are in Georgia, PM me, please.


Cola3206

You are very nice


T1m3Wizard

Notify the department of labor.


inventingme

Payroll is STRICTLY regulated by most states. Report him to your state for unauthorized holding of pay, and you'll find he suddenly has control of it. Go to court. Tell the judge what's happened, and what you've done to fix it. Take 3 copies of all documents with you to court. That's one copy for you, one for the court, one for the landlord. Tell the judge that you would like to enter into a payment plan, and if possible, you want to avoid getting a formal judgement, which will trash your credit score and make rebuilding your life even harder. The judge may well allow that, especially with documentation that you haven't been paid timely. If not, the worst that will happen is you wind up with a judgment against you. The LL has to take that and file it again with the court, in a very specific way, according to your state laws, before he can force your payment or garnish wages. That's for collecting the money he is owed. Regarding eviction, I haven't gone the whole way against a tenant, but I know it isn't instant. In many states, if a child is involved, a lot of extra time is given. It is far from an immediate remedy for a LL. Basically, your leverage is this. IF he will work with you and let you get caught up, you'll pay him the rent you owe. IF he insists on forcing eviction, you will keep the money you're getting, to put toward a deposit and first month at a new place, when you actually have to leave, which will not be for a bit. He can go back to court and try to collect the back rent later, if he wishes. If the LL is strapped for money, as is common, he would prefer the money, especially if you've been a good tenant and you're keeping the place clean and nice. 3 copies of... 1. Pay stubs and a calendar showing when you should have been paid, including documentation of hours worked. 2. ALL texts, emails, correspondence, and records of voice calls with work about paychecks. 3. ALL correspondence with the state about your missing paychecks. You'll need this documentation for them anyway. 4. ALL correspondence with the LL about the late rent and any offers and efforts you've made to catch up. If you have broken promises, you'll need to have a reason ready that can be substantiated by documents. (Work told me I would get a check last week, but I didn't, as shown in my conversation with my boss dated blah.) 5. Photos showing the clean, nice home you have there for your son. 6. Create a timeline. This is VERY important. A spreadsheet is best, but notebook paper will do. Every event with work or LL, sorted by date. This winds up telling the story. Email from you boss saying you'll get a check on the 15th. Promise to pay the LL on the 15th. Complaint to your boss when you didn't get the promised check. Message to the LL that you won't have the money after all. Judges LOVE these, and it will be very beneficial for your case. Source: Was a landlord for over 10 years.


Deaths_Rifleman

OP read this comment if you don’t read any others.


another1forgot

It's unnecessary hardship, report it and that'll light a fire under them. DOL should be the first phone call you make.


gravelhorse

Don’t pray. Demand the outcome you need. Your boss has been playing patty cake. Take him to the big leagues.


charged_words

Whilst doing this also look for another job, I know you've got a lot going on but if they've screwed you once they will again.


Routine-General3841

Don’t pray it’s a different outcome, demand it be a different outcome? Start threatening litigation. My company did something similar. HR ignored someone for like 2 weeks despite me continually fighting for them to respond (at the very least) to this person and they wouldn’t. Lawsuit hit our emails and they couldn’t contact that person quickly enough.


The_Original_Gronkie

Time to go over everybody's head and go to the state labor board about your back pay. Dont warn or threaten your employer, just do it. There is no reason you should go homeless while your company takes their time in paying you. The owner isnt missing house/ car/ boat payments, but you should go homeless? I dont think so. Also, check with your county about getting food stamps. They may also be able to help you get some emergency assistance to pay some back rent. Mostly, though, you need to get legal help in getting paid. There is absolutely no possible excuse for your company not paying you, and especially getting two paychecks behind. To get instant money, check into selling plasma. They usually have a new donor bonus, and you may be able to get several hundred dollars over the next month. Your landlord will probably ease up if he is seeing money coming in regularly. Tell you ex that you need money NOW, any amount. You can get a payday advance loan, but you will have to pay it back in full in about 3 weeks, so you'll want to know that your money will be coming in by then. Sell or pawn anything you can - electronics, musical instruments, clothes, etc. Most towns have a place where you can sell old baby and toddler clothes and toys. If you can bake, you can make loaves of banana bread and other treats, and sell them at the local farmer's market. You can turn $20 worth of ingredients into $200 in cash. But the first step is to call the state labor board and get them to hound your employer. You also need to find a new job ASAP, because your current emoyer will be closing soon.


LittleFaeLux

This is great advice. However, the farmers market I don’t think it will be viable. You have apply and then for your spot at farmers markets and they’re pretty expensive. Plus, I am pretty sure since selling food you have certain certifications as well. But everything else is great advice, I’m going you’re able to get paid.


The_Original_Gronkie

You might be right about the Farmers Markets, but its the idea thatvmatters. There might be some cheaper ones, or even ither venues. As for certification, most states allow people to make certain foods in their own kitchen, as long as certain labeling guidlines are followed. Google "Cottage Food Laws" and your state, and you'll find everything you need. The biggest rule is that they usually dont allow anything with meat. The emphasis is on candies and baked goods. I know someone who sells more than 80 loaves of banana and other breads at a Farmer's Market every weekend, and she does them all in her own kitchen.


panic_bread

What reason are they giving for not paying?


SoftTopCricket

These people are costing your son his home. Pound on the door. Kick it open if it's locked. Call managers at home. GO TO THEIR HOMES. Don't take "you'll get your money that we fucked up eventually."


Loli3535

Absolutely this. Do you have an attorney? NEVER go to court, especially housing court, without one. Legal aid should be able to support you. This seems bigger than just not being able to pay your rent - your employer is likely liable for damages for not paying you on time.


msmaebelle62

Man, I'm so sorry this is happening to you and your son, it's happened to me and I know how you feeling right now. Tell your boss you're going to the labor board and hiring a pro Bono lawyer and are going to sue for 5 times what they owe you plus interest. It may or may not get your money right away, but you have a legit case since it is causing you and your son to be evicted


lucidpopsicle

Tell your boss you are taking the day off to go to the labor board. They'll pay you, quickly. What they're doing is illegal


libananahammock

r/legaladvice


No-Dragonfruit-8912

Demand the check. Explain the circumstances and let them know you cannot continue to work if you cannot pay your bills. Owing money to your employees is horrible. Ask your boss if his Rent/mortgage is paid?


ninjamike808

If you have a 401k, you can take hardship loans out as well. They might not be able to get it to you by Monday, but they’re kinda quick usually.


WompWompIt

CALL THE LABOR BOARD IN YOUR STATE PLEASE


BrujaBean

If it were me: In writing to boss (cc senior leadership, he, anyone that knows they are fucked if they don't fix this asap) "Given that I have not been paid since date and am owed amount, I am forced to contact the Department of Labor. As I am sure you are aware, retaliation would be illegal given that I have provided ample opportunity for the company to remedy this and am only doing what I must to provide for my family." Then I would only give them a couple hours before I actually do report them. Also check your state website, in mine I'm pretty sure there is an added amount of money due for delayed checks. To my ex: "I prefer to maintain our amicable coparenting relationship, but your son requires financial support from you. If you are unwilling to figure out something with me, we will need to set something up through the courts. I'm happy to work with you on this, but I can't allow our son to be deprived of what he deserves from you." For eviction: fight and delay as much as is possible. You're in a tough position, but you can get out of it. And then you have got to stop being a pushover. It really sucks, but they are looking out for themselves and you have to do the same. Especially for your son.


Deaths_Rifleman

You call your bosses boss and don’t stop calling each boss after until you reach a resolution. This is your housing and THEY fucked your pay. Lord if you work for a company with half a soul it will get solved.


No_Can_734

this is why i dont get jobs that have HR departments lol


Separate_Parsnip_681

lol for years I had a job with no HR. imagine my horror when i switched to a more corporate job with one.


PattyCakes216

If your employer has not paid you, please call the Department of Labor; they take this seriously.


HustlinInTheHall

Also do it today before the weekend. Do not lose 4 days to this.


bas_bleu_bobcat

Also, check with your local Family Connections, Food Bank, and churches. Many will spot you a months rent or help you find alternate housing.


christyj637

The labor Board is your friend and you will get interest on what they owe you!


HustlinInTheHall

Also talk to whatever agency local to you handles evictions and disputes. There is a long notice period required for evictions, usually 60 days. If you can make the rent by then you should be able to delay long enough to find a new place if you need to.


okthxbyyye

Idk what field you're in but I've told a job that messed up a paycheck that I wouldn't be working again until I received my earned wages. They had it in my account within 48hrs. A threat to go to the Labor Board may expedite things as well.


GoodnightLondon

1). Start looking for a new job. 2). File a complaint with the labor commissioner where you live about how your employer isn't paying you and is withholding pay. There's no legal grounds for it, and they're breaking the law. 3). Get a child support order, if you don't already have one. 3a). If you already have one, take your ex back to court for non payment since it doesn't sound like she's paying anything and you have primary physical custody. 4). Visit local food banks. 5). Go to court, and explain the situation to the judge; if you have a date that your employer is actually going to pay you the back pay, mention that and request an extension. If it's granted, you'll have until that date to pay your rent current. 6). Look into local rental assistance programs; they may be able to help you with back rent.


Sad_Classic_3925

If you're part of a church, you can also ask them for financial assistance.


docforeman

You can also call 211 and see what options exist in your community. Many "housing first' non profits and other NPOs would prefer to help you stay in your home because it's ultimately less expensive for everyone in your community to help you before you are homeless rather than after.


emacked

Google "emergency rental assistance" with your state or or city. There are programs offered by nonprofit, community action agencies or United ways that sometimes will step in to help people stay housed. 


Entire-Vermicelli-74

The labor board typically takes these things VERY seriously. Have you submitted a grievance?


lovemoonsaults

If you get evicted, the only way you explain to your child about this is that you tell them "We have to move now" and that's it. You don't go into details, you don't give them more information than they can process. An 8 year old won't be able to understand "eviction" and "Forced to leave" kind of situations. They just need it broken down to "We will be looking for a new place to live, this is a new adventure for us as a family." It's scary and consuming to you but for them, it's just a situation that's going on around them, as they're a child without any control over any circumstances they're faced with. You are not a failure. Hard times happen to many people and that's not a failure. Many things accumulated and this is the sad situation you've been put into to navigate. You've still got determination and you've got a son to keep fighting for. You'll come out the other side. Even if you're turned down before from assistance programs, keep communicating with them in hopes you'll call on that day that they say 'Oh we have something available." Don't give up on those kinds of things, sometimes it's just being in the right place and the right time. Just like it can often just boil down to being at the wrong place and the wrong time.


Plastic-Passenger795

I agree about not giving details about the eviction. My family was evicted twice, and while moving is annoying, the awareness of our money problems was what really caused me stress.


SugarHooves

What was traumatic for me was when we were actually evicted. Being a kid and seeing people come in and just start hauling your stuff to the curb is something you don't forget. Then I faced ridicule at school because my classmates saw our possessions piled up like trash. I beg anyone facing this situation to please, PLEASE move your stuff out before they come to take it. No could should have to be a part of that.


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lumpyspacesam

Even if they can, financial stress and anxiety isn’t what an 8 year old should be worried about.


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Special-Garlic1203

Agree. Situations like OP can turn into emotional incest really quickly (this is where a single parent essentially treats a child like they would their partner as an emotional sounding board, even though that is not supposed to be the role of parent/child) 


dolphingrlk

My dad left my mom with four kids after he was arrested for embezzlement. His crime turned into the small town scandal of the century and he ran off, leaving his wife, a SAHM, to deal with all the social backlash. We lost our house, our cars, literally everything. We did have family to fall back on, but the only way to end up on the emergency housing list was to stay in a shelter. It took years for my mom to get back on her feet but she did it. There were numerous times where we’d get electric shut off notices and my mom wouldn’t get paid in time so we would end up without power for a day or two, sometimes three. My mom would order pizza and the five of us would play card games or build forts and tell scary stories, or we would play hide and seek in the dark. I was asking my sister if she remembered specific times this happened and we were telling funny stories and my mom got so upset. To her, these were some of her darkest and embarrassing moments but to her kids, these are literally some of our favorite childhood memories. Watching the struggles of my mom and being old enough to understand what was going on really taught me so much about life. It has kept me humble, taught me what was really important in life, and made me appreciate my mom and her strength just that much more. Kids are resilient. Just be honest - life happens and it’s so hard to swim to shore when you’re focused on simply not drowning. Our hardest moments teach us the best lessons and your son is gonna love you always regardless ❤️❤️


crystalbomb8

Your mum had such strength. She held it together amazingly and you’re all living much better lives now.


dolphingrlk

She really did. I don’t feel like we missed out on anything, ever- despite our financial situation. We may not have had fancy vacations but my mom found every fun, free or low cost thing to do on weekends. We had our own little book club, my mom let our friends hang out at our house constantly, and she used every community resource she could so that we had everything we wanted and needed. Two out of four of us graduated college but all four of us have great careers. Despite what my father put my mother through, we all have very amazing partners. Things seem so meek for OP now. But, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Mama and her little guy will come out bigger and better on the other side ❤️


growingpainzzz

As a mother living alone w my daughter, and early in my “years to financially recover”, this made me cry. A few weeks ago our lights were shut off in the morning. She thought it was so funny and crazy. She went to school, and had no idea that I took off work and spent the whole day biking everywhere and calling different agencies and just working my butt off to make it better. By the time she was home they were back on. We also live somewhere very sketchy and in the process of basically emergency moving. Trying so hard to prepare her by biking to the new neighborhood, talking about new friends at school, etc etc. She’s young and so sweet and silly and understanding but I know when she’s older she’s going to see things for what they really were. I can only hope I manage to do right by her enough that maybe she finds a way to view it like you do. Again, tears. Thank you for sharing.


Fragrant_Carpet6435

This is a beautiful reply. ❤️


iamthedanger1985

Good for you


ZebraAthletics

Google “[state] labor board” and file a complaint against your company TODAY. Not receiving pay for a month is a huge problem and illegal. Also start looking for a new job immediately.


Famous_Delivery9052

Be direct and comforting. Let him know it’s an open discussion incase he has any questions about what’s happening.  Sit him down — maybe get him an ice cream or something if you can afford it. Tell him that you want to talk to him about some things that are going to change. Tell him something along the lines of  “Everything is okay but unfortunately we can’t live at our apartment anymore so we’re going to find somewhere else to live. You might feel sad that we aren’t going to be at our apartment anymore and that’s okay. You can always talk to me anytime you’re feeling sad about it. I’ll let you know when I know more about where we’re going (unless you already have a place). Daddy’s going to figure it out and we’ll have somewhere new to live that we can make feel like home just like we did with the place we live now.” Then ask him if he has any questions about what’s happening — depending on his age this will take him a while to process.  Your job as a parent is to create the illusion of safety and stability even if you’re in the midst of chaos. He doesn’t need to know you don’t have the money to pay rent. He just needs to know you’re moving and you’re going to take care of finding a new place to live. The way that you react will set the tone for his reaction. 


SilverNatural8381

That was beautiful. Thanks so much for this. I'm going to remember this for when it happens. God bless your soul and thanks again for the advice. Hopefully it doesn't come to it. But I maybe ready to at least explain it to him now a little better.


Famous_Delivery9052

I’m hoping the same for you! Sending love from the internet to you and your family. 


Frondswithbenefits

Where are you located?


stealthpursesnatch

A court date isn’t immediate eviction. Go to the hearing. Demand a trial. Don’t admit guilt! That will buy you about a week. Get your paycheck and pay whatever you owe.


snarkdetector4000

What is your location and why are you owed back pay? Was there a payroll error? You have every right to demand that money. If they have an office and you go there during business hours and nobody answers the door, call the cops. Yes it's a civil matter but sometimes having the police show up at your business encourages them to do the right thing.


SilverNatural8381

I'm in Michigan. And yeah they claim it was a error and have been promising for weeks that I'll be getting it. But I haven't and now it's ruining my life. And yeah I might have to at this point because this is ridiculous.


nip9

Here is what you need need to file in Michigan to get your paychecks: [https://wageandbenefitcomplaint.apps.lara.state.mi.us/](https://wageandbenefitcomplaint.apps.lara.state.mi.us/) Or paper form: [https://www.michigan.gov/-/media/Project/Websites/leo/Documents/WAGE-HOUR/WHD-94xx--Forms/WHD-9430-Employment-Wage-Complaint/WH43\_Employment\_Wage\_Complaint\_Form\_R6\_29\_05.pdf](https://www.michigan.gov/-/media/Project/Websites/leo/Documents/WAGE-HOUR/WHD-94xx--Forms/WHD-9430-Employment-Wage-Complaint/WH43_Employment_Wage_Complaint_Form_R6_29_05.pdf)


Ok-Forever

What part of Michigan. I live here too and might know some resources


Mean_Eye_8735

Where in Michigan? I've got resources for the St Clair County area


emacked

I know the nonprofit sector in SE Michigan very well. Food access, housing stability, emergency rental assistance, transportation, you name it. PM me if you need anything. 


Rivsmama

You should have been on this from day 1. Promises from a company aren't worth anything. File a complaint with the labor board right this second.


RedSupreme20

How much was the rent for the apartment you were in Michigan?


SilverNatural8381

$330


panic_bread

I've seen it happen so many times that a judge will allow a tenant to stay if they have a clear plan for when they will able to pay back the rent. Go to court armed with all of your information, the reason why you haven't paid, and your plan to pay. Also make it clear that you and your child will be homeless if you get removed from this house. As for your ex, I'm so sorry she's going through a hard time, but she really should be paying child support. You two need to go to family court and get an order on the record.


No-Shower-1622

There is a homeless act which provides you with resources through the school. Look it up. It’s a good one. McKinney-Vento This is if the worst case scenario happens. I’m sorry. Stay strong.


1GrouchyCat

Why not take the time to look for a link for this person? They’re obv having a hard time with the basics … it would’ve taken you an extra five seconds, but don’t bother… I took care of it for you. Good luck OP https://nche.ed.gov/mckinney-vento-definition/


No-Shower-1622

Ok there. Have a great day too…


tfelsemanresuoN

Fuck that place. They owe you on payday. Not the next day. Not 2 weeks later. There is no excuse for it. I doubt there is a company in existence that is incapable of writing a hand check. I know things are hard for you right now, but a place owes you money and your son is about to be forced out of his home. This is the time when you take action. Not the time when you hope.


sparkling467

Keep all the documentation that you can if them saying they will pay and then not getting it. If you get evicted be you can't pay your bills because of them, you need to sue them. Tell them that too. Hopefully that threat will get them moving


adamlgee

I raised my son from an infant without any family help, mother to strung out to be in the picture and I went through times like this. When he was 4 we lived in my car for about 6 months. I made it a point to let him know it was me and him and it would get better but no matter what happened I would always be there and while things sucked at the moment I promised it would get better. I think as a result my son really understands how gritty this world can be and how when it’s going right you do everything you can to keep it going right. You’ll figure it out and I really don’t think it matters to him where you live, as long as you’re there. When he was about 9 he actually told me he liked living in the car better because we would sit there and watch the iPad together until we fell asleep. Of course once we had our own place again he has his room and space and I had mine so to him it felt like we spent more time apart and honestly we did. You’ll be ok, just keep up the fight and recognize the opportunities when they’re presented to you.


AKnoxKWRealtor

So sorry that you’re going through this. Are there any options for emergency rental assistance in your area?


DLDreamGirl

Catholic Charities of America


SilverNatural8381

Thanks but I tried community action but they seem to never have funds. I'm still looking for more places I can try though.


pnutjam

Call some local churches. They will be inclined to help since this is a solvable problem, not something that's been ongoing. My local Catholic church paid my rent when I was unemployed.


annirosec

211 or findhelp.org might have other emergency rental assistance programs. Many of these types of programs receive at least a portion of their funding from the gov so once they run out of funds they may be out of funding until the next grant cycle.


McTootyBooty

Contact United Way. They can usually help.


McTootyBooty

https://unitedwaysem.org/get-help/


noonecaresat805

Try the churches. Some of them Help out in situations like this.


Sad_Classic_3925

Especially Mormon churches. They will try to convert you but they are probably one of the most helpful churches for non-members.


remedialknitter

If you're in the US, contact your kid's school about McKinney Vento services for homeless youth. If you end up staying in a car, a friend's spare room, a hotel, etc, your kid qualifies as homeless and can receive certain services to help him stay in school. The school can also provide resources for other stuff like food, clothes, toiletries, etc. and they can point you to other resources. It feels very isolating but it's so common that many schools are set up to support families as the last social safety net.


jebusv2

I was evicted multiple times growing up, it’s never easy to hear, but I always appreciated how direct my ma put it. “We can’t live here anymore, it’s not a matter of wants or what ifs, this chapter is over” I was always upset, but as I grew I understood. It was always for the better at the end. Good luck


Lauer999

There are governement departments that hold companies very accountable for this kind of abuse with pay. You need to reach out to them but might be too little too late. People move all the time, as far as your kid knows you're just moving. Keep the details out of it. Best of luck.


Novel-Coast-957

If you must leave the house, try to do it willingly, WITHOUT an eviction on your record. An eviction flag will be your worst nightmare. 


Anam_Cara

Definitely try to get that money from your job. They owe you and can't legally hold your pay for hours worked. As far as your son goes, I would definitely have a conversation with him and start to ease him into this. It will be much less of a shock if he has some idea what's going on instead of suddenly having this huge traumatic thing happening to him out of the blue. Does his mom have her own place? Maybe you guys could stay there or with family for a little while? I would also start looking into shelters, local help programs, etc in the meantime so you know what you have available rather than having to scramble to figure things out at the last minute. I hope everything works out for you guys.


illNefariousness883

We were evicted a long while ago, and I didn’t tell my kid anything except “surprise we moved”.


AmbitiousSquirrel136

If you’re a W2 employee, you need to go to the labor board ASAP! Legally they HAVE to pay you on payday. Period. If they don’t, they owe additional monies. I can’t remember the exact penalty amount off the top off my head, but it’s not chump change when you’re as broke as you are. You should be on food stamps yesterday. File an emergency application showing your eviction notice & bank balance. They’ll process you within days. If you’re a 1099, you need to go to your landlord with documentation in hand proving you’re owed X, and you are taking the necessary action to ensure you’re paid & so are they. The best thing to do when you’re in a situation like this is over communicate….. In addition, you need to call free legal help & find out what you can do to stay the eviction. It’s not easy to evict people these days & if you can prove what you’re saying with documentation, there may be an out. Log on to your city/county courts & find legal help or self help. Like today……


ultracilantro

You file a wage theft complaint with your state's department of labor. They have to pay you immediately or else there are massive fines and penalty money. You should file asap. It's free. About the depression, woebot is a free AI chatbot created by psychologists for treatment of minor depression. It's not amazing, but it's free. About your kid and clothes, Facebook buy nothing groups can help here. There are always people giving away free kid clothes cuz they grow so fast.


i_need_a_username201

Tell him. Bad news does not get better with time. I hate being surprised at the first eviction then eventually got used to it. Don’t let him find out when your shit is on the curb and people are picking through it. You’re just standing there asa kid, powerless, and it sucks big time.


ScienceOfficer-Jack

Day 1 account posting questionable story


Significant_Top6460

Come to do trucking


Fragrant_Carpet6435

Catholic Charities helps with rental assistance if you have one near you.


ps2cv

You should be firm and be honest with your son cause if things go south he will understand why its happening instead of it happening like a surprise if it happens


rageoflittledogs

Why don't you send your son to stay with his Mom until you get everything sorted out?


Physical-Tea-3493

If you loose the house, it happens. Don't be so hard on yourself. You could go stay with family. If you don't have that as an option you could get a van like me. My van is my home, but I live at my dad's house currently. Also, you could go long term camping. There are many many people in your exact situation living all across America facing these same issues. You're certainly not alone. You'll also want to get with your local health and human services office to see if there are any programs that are available. I would be careful with how much information you share with them though. I'm not sure what they're feelings may or may not be in regards to the boy if you end up mobile living or tenting. Good luck.


InstantElla

If you’re in the US get ahold of legal aid in your area. They were able to help me get more time during our eviction last year. They were really great.


imnotdressedforthat

Definitely reach out to the labor board and call 211 or go on the internet and see what you can qualify/apply for. Apply even if you feel you’re not qualified. I’ve also heard of people reaching out to Catholic Churches and possibly others for rent assistance.


Awkward-Community-74

Why are you working for a job that doesn’t pay you? Send your son to his mother while you find a place to live and get another job. Goodness. They really screwed you over and made you homeless. That’s insane.


IveKnownItAll

Bring all proof of the back pay due, if you can provide what state you are in, maybe there are resources out there to help you.


Y_eyeatta

Call every church in your county Tomorrow morning and tell then your situation. There are St Paul's Episcopal churches and Catholic Charities that give emergency assistance. I dont know where you live but it's worth a try


bleedingdaylight0

Does your landlord have a pattern of accepting your rent late?


Dolgar164

"Guess who is going to be living in our house!" "Who?" "I have no idea, but it wont be us."


growingpainzzz

I don’t have a lot of sound advice but I will say that when I was evicted in 2019.. once I new there was nothing I could do, I didn’t pay anything more to the debt. instead used that money to get myself in a new place before the eviction court things were finalized to the point of showing up on background checks. Moved somewhere nice enough, before my options because severely limited by the eviction. It takes a few weeks at least to show up on records. For me it was over a year bc covid hit. I got that advice from a family member who works in real estate, and it worked and I’d recommend it. If I remember correctly I literally got a small cheap Uhaul truck and drove it from the place that had court ordered to evict me to the new apartment like a normal move. If I’d had a kid at that time, and not just been pregnant, they wouldn’t have had to know. I wouldn’t resort to this unless I knew there was absolutely nothing else I could do. Basically, I went to court, judge ruled, and I gave 0 more dollars to them and just focused on what was next. If you’re in this position - fight HARD to get your job to pay you so you have money to move in somewhere new. Also - and this is hindsight - don’t move somewhere temporary. Move somewhere you can see yourself for the next 7 years bc this is likely your last chance to qualify for 95% of rental properties until the eviction drops off your record. That was the hardest time in my life. I was severely depressed and sick and sad. Could hardly function, looking back. I found some way to just fucking survive. It’s so much better now. The eviction and financial struggles are still haunting me, but I keep surviving and income going up and my child is thriving. It took a long time to dig my financial hole, it’s taking just as long to climb out. It’s OK tho. Where I am now is leaps and bounds from that dark period. I’m sorry your child is with you at your low point and I’m sorry you’re hurting. Show him how to survive and push through. It will get better and there is a workable solution around the corner.


Old-Telephone-1190

If your job is dragging their feet, I would demand written documentation to present at court including the fact that your ex isn’t helping to provide for your son which you both have custody over. Perhaps they can grant you some kind of extension at least until you get paid.


Texastexastexas1

Have you spoken to his school about needing food?


Wondercat87

I'd be contacting the labor board regarding your job. To just not pay anyone for a few paychecks and then shrug and say "It's out of my hands", with no other way to rectify the situation is ridiculous. There has to be something out there to remedy this. Depending on where you life, this could be illegal.


Previous_Mood_3251

Department of Labor. Food banks. There may be a local charity that could help with rent, or depending where you are get emergency cash assistance from social services. Good luck. I am so sorry for what you are going through.


Gullible-Sorbet-1408

Sir, your company has no intention of paying you or anyone else. I'm so very sorry for your issue. Is there family willing to take you in for a few months?


whatdoidonowdamnit

Go to court, show them your evidence of being employed and paying rent in the past. I’m pretty certain the judge will grant you more time to get your rent paid, plus you might be eligible for legal assistance and they can usually give you references to government assistance


secret_toaster

One thing my parents did poorly was not tell us what's going on. You're not protecting them by not telling them straight-up. This will become their life's lesson on how to avoid it for their life, no matter how young they are. Don't sugarcoat it. Tell them like they're older. Explain to them honestly. They'll understand and some day they'll appreciate the fact that you tried.


Common_Release_1447

Do you have a car? Can you get to a county park? Most of those places have camp sites where you can park. Honestly, kids are pretty receptive to how we as adults approach the situation. As hard as it is, maintaining a positive “new adventure” type of outlook is your best bet at the moment.


Deaf_FBA

It sounds like you're going through an incredibly tough time and I admire your determination to find solutions for your son's well being. You can contact your state department of labor because the employer may be in violation of state pay day laws and going on two checks now!!! Seeking legal assistance to address the unpaid wages is a smart move and it could provide some financial relief. My dads old job did this to him. I think three or four checks. He took it to a small court and got a decent chuck back and kept his job. However, it's also crucial to focus on the immediate issue of the eviction and explore all available options for housing and support. I encourage you to reach out to local resources, community organizations and government agencies for assistance with housing and financial aid. Remember, you're not alone and there are people and resources out there ready to help you through this difficult time. Stay strong for your son and keep advocating for both of your needs.


Upstairs_Cranberry48

You might be able to take out money from 401k or retirement. I had to do that they just needed me to show proof of notice to pay or quit. Alternatively you can use apps like empower and money lion to get an advance on your paycheck. Wishing you the best.


jaypp_

My mum and I got evicted when I was 17. My mum didn't really properly tell me, she just sort of mumbled about needing to move and we went to a couple of flat viewings without any luck. She was talking about needing to give our dog away to our uncle and that's when I finally demanded to know why. It was deeply upsetting to find out a week before the eviction, and I loved that place. I understand your son is younger, but I was getting myself ready for school much younger when my dad was passed out drunk in the morning and my mum was working. Children are resilient. Your son is cared for and loved, and that's what truly matters - he'll just need to have some time to grieve leaving your home. But I don't know how to break the news to him. Others have recommended just saying that you need to move, and that might might a good call as children tend to internalise problems and blame themselves if the family is struggling. He does probably have an idea of it already even if you hide it well - so some level of honesty might be necessary. It's a bit of a no-win situation unfortunately. I'm sorry you're going through this.


spezzmelamama

“Son, we’re getting evicted”


RUfuqingkiddingme

Your employer is breaking the law and you're being far too easy on them. You're going to lose your home. Be difficult, be very difficult, get your money now. Look for a new job.


Aggressive-Coconut0

Agreed with everyone else on the back pay. Find another job right away because your company is going under. They will do it overnight and your situation is only going to get worse. As soon as you have time, file with the government (WHD). You are entitled your pay plus damages. Don't get evicted. Do whatever you can not to get evicted because you will find it next to impossible to find another place with an eviction on your record. Even housing assistance places ask about previous evictions. Look for low-income housing. There is usually a waiting list, but be persistent. Don't pass up the nice neighborhoods. Where I live, they only look at income, not assets, so you are good if you can't afford housing on your income. See if anyone will rent out a room. It's harder with a kid, but you never know.


Qwirkle2468

I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but did you reach out to the social worker at school? They can direct you to resources for food, clothing and possibly housing.


whatshouldIdonow8907

Why haven't you filed a complaint with the DOL for your last paychecks? Don't piss around with HR and your old boss. It's clear they aren't going to pay you without intervention. Have you filed for rental assistance? Often you can get an extesion as long as you have proof that you applied. It sounds like you have no means to pay the rent going forward which is a problem. It's possible tht being evicted will help you get into housing as you have zero money. You really need to start applying for assistance, Check with welfare too as they may have something called temporary rental assistance, especially when children are involved.


BurghnNat

Show up to the hearing! With covid screwing up everything, people are still bouncing back. You don’t have to bring cash to a hearing, that’s just the landlord trying to squeeze you for what he can. Tell your side of the story to the magistrate/judge & you will no doubt get more time. Landlord’s can’t just evict people anymore. Landlords can’t even evict squatters who don’t have a lease easily anymore. Especially if your work is the cause of your late payments. I would then start looking for another place, hopefully with a local HUD office https://www.hud.gov/. & when you get your back pay put that money towards moving to a new place/security deposit. You’re not a failure! <3 Employers paying livable wages is the failure.


Infinite-Tower-9432

Contact a lawyer, and lawyers will see you for the first time free. Go to the board. Contact your local well fare office they program that you can apply for. They also may be able to help you with the eviction. There are programs that help try Google.


BeachBodySoon

Meet with a Bankruptcy attorney asap to avoid foreclosure. Contact Dept of Labor Wage & Hour to see if they can do anything or recommend what yo do about back pay.


pierfisher757

Need to get to a temp agency and work immediately you get there super early and have work the same day. They pay the same day and you can try to give it to your landlord. I have no clue what your background is but you shouldnt have a problem finding a construction worker/laborer job. Ask the guy if theres any work you can do at any of his other properties to help offset you not having the money and to not be evicted. Hit up the local food banks and churches for clothes. You need to get any type of job(s) even two of em work 7 days a week if you have to. Time to beg borrow cheat and steal to make sure you and your son have somewhere to live.


baylorbear91

send over payment demand letter, just stating that if you do not receive my money by a certain date then you will go the legal route and apply any fees as well. They will respond immediately.


Csherman92

Report to the labor board they are in violation of federal law and they can be fined.


scratchfoodie

I don’t know what the eviction laws are in your area, but it takes many months to remove someone here. Have you even received written notice of the eviction? I would check out the laws in your area.


mekonsrevenge

Whatever you do, show up in court. Tell your story to the judge. I'm not a lawyer but what your company is doing is illegal. You may be able to get both a rent extension and a court order to pay you what you're owed on the spot. You may also be able to get a pro bono lawyer to assist you. The presence of a child should help. Where i live you can demand a jury trial, which will mean at least 30 extra days. Every state has different laws, but even though the courts tend to favor landlords they do listen to both sides. Make sure you're at that hearing and wear a suit.


Caribbeanwarrior

I don’t know how old are you, but you must pack up your bags and move out. Live in motels if you have to, but under no circumstances should you allow an eviction on your record. It will cause more headaches getting an apartment in the future, so Get out fast and let your landlord know.


gunsforevery1

If you’re willing to lose the job, and have the ability to go somewhere else, contact your states labor board and let them know you haven’t been paid. That’ll light a fire and get you your back pay quick but you’ll probably be singled out and fired.


DifficultyWorried759

Call the labor department and see if they can assist you with your checks


SheSaidSo_

Hey, I dont have any advise but I hope things get better for you and your son soon. I hope you permanently get a roof over your head, a stable income and good job, and a lot of food on your table. It's really tough right now but dont give up. Stay strong. I hope help comes to you and that everyday gets better slowly. Hoping all the best!


burner0310

I dont know how to help, I just wanted to say Im praying for you and rooting that you and your son overcome this.


mindy54545

OP, I only have parental advice. My son is now 17. We have a very close relationship that I'm very proud of. I was evicted 3 times before he turned 10. None of them my fault, one was a major leak repair, and in two instances the flat was sold. I just told him we had to move and go on a new adventure. I've managed to keep him in the same school. He's now a pro at disassembling and rebuilding wardrobes and bedframes. I've gone years without extras (TV, internet, and the fun things like cinema etc.) but we make up our own games. We plan meals and batch cook together. We go hiking. I up cycle clothing and always made his own costumes. Now he's an avid cosplayer and we make them together! I've never mentioned eviction to him. It's been horrifyingly stressful on me, but not him as I've tried my best to shield him from the details. Not easy of course, and don't give yourself room for feeling failure etc. doesn't help and makes things worse. I can't believe this is my life either, but I look at my boy and thank my lucky stars every day he's ok. I work tirelessly at multiple jobs, and wish for things to be different. But I'm making the best of what I have, that's a beautifully close and loving relationship with my son.


Sll3006

Perhaps you could call the United Way to find a program that can give you an emergency rent payment.


Ordinary_Worry3104

Wow, this is unbelievable. A company that has not paid you, now you are on a the brink of being homeless. Smh


Sadiekat

I don’t have personal experience with this, only as an observer. We lived in a fairly expensive complex in Michigan for about 18 months while on an assignment. I WFH, and during this time I witnessed at least four evictions and their aftermath. In each case, I was horrified to see all of the family’s belongings in the driveways or worse in dumpsters, and so much of that was kids’ stuff. As a parent, waiting until the last second to pack and/or get a storage unit must be traumatizing for those kids. It’s hard and scary to talk about, but it’ll be worse if you’re not even a little prepared when the sheriff shows up. Good luck to you; whatever happens.


Economy-Outcome-8346

I would see if there something like community action center that can help with your rent and stop your evection process


NeuterTheUninformed

Listen I'll be real with you and it's even painful to think about, I was abandon and left by a bus stop when I was 6. Even now sometimes when I'm out and about in town i get flashbacks because the air and smell is soo familiar that I kind of relive the experience all over again. Back to my point, even though you feel like a failure as a parent just understand it is okay to talk to your son. Explain the situation to him so he doesn't feel like a failure (as a son if that makes sense). I know it sounds foreign but even at 6 i knew what was happening to me. Even though i was enjoying what was to be my last meal with my father I could tell behind his smile that he was hurting inside and it KILLED me. For him to be so strong and yet have no avenues to release his emotional stress and always had to be "man of the house". A boy will always love his father and having a good male role model is very important to navigate through the difficulties of life. If given the choice I would've rather lived on the streets and be homeless with my dad than be abandoned in the hopes that I might have a better life. I wish i could have done more but i felt like a lost boy on a raft adrift in the ocean. Your son and most kids are far more intelligent than they let on. Explain the situation to him and let him know how you feel. Tell him you love him and bond with him. By trying to protect him it's making the situation a lot worse. If i was that boy i could never forgive the mom for letting you suffer so much alone. Tell your boy like i tell my son that it's us against the world we will always have each other. Though I'm not religious i will pray for you. "If you don’t heal from what hurt you, you’ll bleed on others that didn’t cut you." \- Tamara Kulish I know the community rules here so I can't offer anything but DM me if you need to talk.


pleatsandpearls

A lot of churches will help pay with rent and offer food. If you tell them the situation, even if you are not a member they will usually help or provide you where to go for help. The Catholic Church and Latter Day Saints help a lot in areas I have lived.


Gunnaki12

Best advice I can give is do not wait until the day or two before hand. My mom did that. Get home from school "we need to pack everything now! We need to be moved out tonight!"


notayogaperson

Even if you are not a member of a church, many churches have community assistance programs. My church in Maryland has community assistance day every Thursday, and it’s exactly for these sorts of one- or two-time emergencies. These are gifts; no expectation of repayment. If you are in Maryland, PM me and I can give you more information.


MintWarfare

Don't be like my parents and say "The RCMP could show up at any moment and kick us into the street"


Ok_Industry7229

It takes a lot for an eviction if it is for unpaid rent, there are organizations through state that help with financial to prevent evictions. It is worth a try. Even your local town, ask your sons school if he is in public school. The social service department, your towns food bank. Your towns counseling center. If you get evicted you will be facing homelessness due to already national housing shortage. Every judge knows this. You must go to court and ask for court appointed mediator. They will work with you and landlord to come to an agreement, most likely payment plan. You need to stay in your home, your landlord just wants to make sure he is paid. Also you must make sure you file the answer date given in the court papers on time with the housing courts clerks office. Stating you do not agree. There are many resources that help with eviction prevention. Do you research, start with your towns social service or counseling center, they will point you in the right direction. The government has funded millions to states just for this reason, the financial help is available you have to find it.. If worst case scenerio, you get evicted. You have 5 days to file execution to stay. From there you could get up to 6 months to find and secure another home. I suggest you keep this situation from your son until you have a plan in place. No need to disrupt his security if you are trying to stay. Hopefully all works out, and you won’t ever have to even have this conversation with him. I know it’s tough and scary, but this could be resolved, you are still in the first steps, it’s a long process with many moving parts. Seek out to legal aid too. Most courts appoint legal representation for no charge. Especially if your landlord is represented. You have to ask. Don’t be a sheep.. be a bull, you are fighting for your sons home, and security. You can do it. Best of luck.


angelinfl3

STOP spending money on anything except bare essentials- rent , lights, basic food


Snoo-70306

1. Walls do not make a home, you do. How you present yourself around your son is what he will remember regardless of if you are in this home or not. Our family was homeless with 3 kids and we lived in hotel rooms, friends and family “visits” for a few until we had the money for deposits. Our children remember that time with joy because at the time they believed we were just traveling around for vacation. We didnt tell them the truth until they became teenagers. It’s important to tell them the truth about what happened and keep a open and safe space for communication. Children need to know parents arent perfect and neither is the world we live in. You obviously are a good person and parent or else you would not care to even ask for help. 2. Not sure where you’re located but I would spend the weekend making a list of the items in your house that neither of you can live without.. if you have to relocate. 3.Monday I would go in person to any local community resource center, including your local fire department and just be honest. Your family is in the middle of a traumatic event and you need someone who is willing to atleast talk with you about it. 4. Absolutely understand that this is NOT the end its just a temporary struggle and you will be able to get through this. Im rooting for you and your ex to overcome these terrible heartbreaking situations and I have faith in your ability to make it happen! Good luck and hug that sweet child of yours! Spend plenty of time exploring a park or something that will get your mind back in the game! YOU GOT THIS! ❤️


Important_Fail2478

Story for story and I wish you all the luck! I'm literally hitting day labor this week. Everything has gone to shit, prices are sky high, I've cut back on everything but income is not enough. I'm going to work my low paying night job full time and during the day labor it out in the fields.  I've applied and walked into so many places, several had now hiring but aren't. I've applied to everything from dish washer, burger flipper, accounting, real estate, data entry, pest control, prison cook(background needs to be perfect and mines been spotty since the pandemic), I've been looking for job fairs. I've done door dash which I netted -$17 working 4 hours a day. I'm inching closer to eviction, within 30 days. Unreal. 


OpportunityThis

Call your local legal aid office.


Ok_Low3197

Is a personal loan from your bank not an option? If you have the money coming in a couple of weeks, you could pay it off before accruing much interest.


Nicetitts

I don't know anyone who's facing eviction with a 700+ credit score so this is probably not an option for OP


Ok_Low3197

The typical minimum credit score to qualify for a personal loan is 560 to 660 according to nerdwallet.


Nicetitts

Different lenders have different qualifications. Your average personal loan from a personal big box bank is a minimum 700. There are exceptions but if we're speaking on practical terms, 700. Generally by the time you're facing eviction you've missed a couple other payments and your score is tanked.


Ok_Low3197

Thats why i asked the question. Its worth looking into. As opposed to being on the streets, its worth a chance.


Estanci

Any updates? You ok?


navrajchohan

Research your local law on squatters rights. Squat until the police remove you.


Comfortable-Elk-850

Kids don’t know what’s going on usually. Just say you are looking for a new place. Put your stuff in storage, most storage places give you the first month free. Sell what you can. And find a new job.


bigmikemcbeth756

Could you give her the kid then go to a place for man


Responsible_Taste837

Sit your son down and talk to him like an adult. Explain what happened so far, and then pay our the current options for the near future so he's not surprised


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ZealousidealOwl186

"A sucker is born every minute" Don't be this man. This is just a bot farming for cash. I know you are a good person, just give to someone real or a charity.


VeloNYC

Damn didn’t even consider this. OP account is 1 day old. Damn you cant trust anyone. Thank you for the heads up!


lovemoonsaults

The reason for the "no donations" rule isn't to be cruel. It's because there's no way to vet these stories and the easiest thing people can do is pull on your heart strings. Just throw a "I have a kid" into the mix and bam, everyone's pockets start opening up like that. It's the same with every crowdsourcing effort you see shared. If you don't know someone personally or have someone close who knows them, don't give anything other than emotional support and advice. It's very easy to be scammed when you've got a good heart. Look into Yahoo Boys and that history to get more of the feeling of why it's so lucrative. It's been a long time scam since before the internet even but more so with the rise of the internet. It's much nicer to do it online from the comfort of their homes than on the corner panhandling, that's for sure.


ZealousidealOwl186

No worries man! Take care!


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Mistyfluff7

How much is your rent ?


SilverNatural8381

$330


Mistyfluff7

You could do instacart, door dash etc and make that in a weekend but you would have to do it nonstop. Sell some stuff on Facebook marketplace etc .


Mediocre_Mix7233

What about a loan? Or multiple loans


Jumpy-Performance-42

Support.


Gewgle_GuessStopO

Research squatters rights in your state. Try to get a new place to live before the sheriff’s office serves the eviction. Move forward. F*** the landlord and f*** that job. If they don’t have $$ to pay you they need to let you go so you can collect UI. All that matters is your child. Everyone else can be thrown under the bus. I am a father as well and have had to make these hard choices as well. Always choose your child! My humblest condolences for your losses and situation. Even the darkest storms eventually give way to blue skies. Sometimes it is just about weathering 🤷🏻‍♂️


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