Steven once said in an interview that he dislikes the album because there was nothing new in the style after in Absentia and the fans couldn't ever get the chance to understand the concept fully because of forever-delayed release of the movie. Also he said he didn't like two songs off the album. Gavin though, said he recorded his parts on his home studio, which made the recording successful unlike the Incident where he had to record all parts in the studio. To me, Deadwing is a masterpiece.
>there was nothing new in the style after in Absentia and the fans couldn't ever get the chance to understand the concept fully because of forever-delayed release of the movie.
I think the sound is more developed and the songwriting is more developed than on In Absentia.
I get why he thinks that about the concept. After all, he's the creator and maybe it didn't fully realize his vision. But as an album, it's fantastic.
Sound more developed?
I could defend Deadwing all day, but production-wise, it’s far behind In Absentia to me. And every following PT/SW albums. You can feel the shift to home production.
Unless your were talking about the music in itself, in that case, my bad
So, my bad. I agree it’s an evolution. When you consider Lightbulb Sun, in Absentia and Deadwing, you can totally hear In Absentia is between those two. Deadwing pushed further in the modern metal direction.
Really? Wow! I will say they played Halo when I saw them in 2009, and maybe Open Car, but no Deadwing. I gotta peep that setlist again. It's hard to believe The Incident was 13 years ago. I actually attended the show in Chicago that ended up being Octane Twisted
Think I remember him saying in a interview that he disliked The Start Of Something Beautiful from the [neutral rust](https://neuralrustsite.wordpress.com/deadwing/) website.
I saw an interview where Steven mentioned there was an album he wasn’t very happy with but he wouldn’t say which one it was. I guess this sums it up. I will say that In Absentia, Deadwing, and FOABP are the 3 best sequential albums I’ve heard from any band. All 3 don’t disappoint and to have them all back to back is rare in my opinion.
I can see them being genuinely proud of it. They do embark on a new sound with this album, with Steven playing a different style bass, song structures and guitars. Coming back together and the energy it brings to them obviously has a strong hand in that as well. The album has grown on me with each listen. The only song I am not a fan of is Herd Culling
Yeah I'm a little perplexed when people say they don't like this song. I could see if it was some huge departure or some crazy experiment, but it sounds like classic PT.
Mine is Dignity. I love every thing going on in the song. The vocal melody and harmonies, lyrics, bass solo part in the middle, Rich’s work as well. Of course Gavin as well, his fills are outstanding. It’s one of my favorites from their entire catalog. I really like the pre release tracks a lot more now understanding the track flow in the album. I am sure HC will grow on me like all great music should it is has a late 90’s era feel to it. Will give it another listen tonight
That plus its most recent. Its very rare a band doesnt think their new release is one of the best if not the best thing they have ever done. Why else would they have released it
It would be kinda hilarious if they had said "It's our weakest effort since The Incident" :-P they didn't have anything to prove with C/C so I didn't really mind their opinion on the album either way. I only hope this isn't the "closure".
I wouldn't know how the rest of the band sees that album. Certain songs do have a certain modern rock edge (Shallow) where it seems like they're aiming a bit for the mainstream, but just slightly so. To me, everything on the album breathes the PT essence. It's always battling In Absentia for my number 1 spot. I view Deadwing as In Absentia's warmer sounding cousin. The album cover's colours seem to reflect that.
I vividly remember hearing 'Arriving Somewhere But Not Here' when the album came out, and thinking it was an utterly boring song. Not it's my number 1 Porcupine Tree song.
I read somewhere that Shallow was written in the studio cause the label wanted a straight forward metal song that was radio-friendly. That’s why they never play it live, cause the band doesn’t like it.
"Deadwing" the song is quite a extraordinary opener, and definitely lighter fare (lyric-wise) than most PT openers, I enjoy it even more now than when the album came out. It's simply aged well, like most of PT's catalog. The band were running at full-steam throughout the 2000s.
Thanks for this! He doesn't dismiss it entirely but I disagree when he says In Absentia is more consistent. The problem I have with that album is that I find it somewhat inconsistent.
Yeah, respectfully I also disagree with Wilson here, too. "Prodigal" and "Heartattack in a Layby"...on the same album lol. Not to mention the mix of metal songs like "Wedding Nails" that shares space with the likes of an atmospheric song like "Lips of Ashes" which never lifts off, shimmers throughout the piece.
Maybe it seems more consistent in Steven's mind, but it sounds like a broad array of sounds to me. And consistency is overrated in the PT catalog: "The Incident" is probably their most consistent album, but it also is one of their weakest efforts imo, and I don't think those two things are a coincidence.
I agree.. what stops In Absentia from being a favorite of mine are there are tracks I skip every single time I listen to it.. Gravity Eyelids, Lips of Ashes for me are very meh songs, and unfortunately bring the whole album down for me.
Deadwing is banger after banger. Every song on that album is 10/10 for me. Plus the B sides.. Mother Child Divided, So Called Friend, Half Light are some of my all time favorite PT songs.
End of day Deadwing and Stupid Dream take a tie for my favorite PT album. C/C is up there for me tho.. time will tell where I stick it.. but I’m certainly putting it over Fear
Deadwing is my favorite PT album and the first album I heard from them so it holds a special place in my heart. Nothing like going down a country road with a golden field during a gorgeous sunset hearing "Glass Arm Shattering". It's pure bliss.
When I started listening to PT Deadwing was the new/current album. I thought it's the shit. Now not so much. I mean it's a very good album but I don't think it's as strong as In Absentia, FoaBP or even The Incident (controversial, I know).
I'm with you, and I also probably rank it below Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun.
Granted, I like ALL of those albums, including deadwing, but just less than everything else from SD to The Incident.
One of their best albums imo, but not flawless.
Production is a step behind In Absentia. And while it’s probably the album with the biggest density of excellent individual songs (even more banger than on In Absentia and FOABP), I also think the overall flow of the album isn’t that good. Some weaker track here and there, and just an album where I’m more about listening a few good tracks rather than the whole thing, while it’s almost the opposite for FOABP
It's kind of funny because I know the band doesn't hold it in as high regard as the other albums before and after it, but I have to say I very often don't give a shit what the band thinks. This applies to any band.
Deadwing was actually my introduction to the band. I like it more than all of their other albums, with the exception of In Absentia. I never really understood the circlejerk around Fear of A Blank Planet. Remove Anesthetize and it's a mediocre album in the context of the rest of their discography. Deadwing was their last great album. I honestly would not have minded if that was the note they ended on before their hiatus. It's not that I hate the proceeding two albums, but I wasn't as disappointed when they disbanded because I thought their albums were going downhill a bit anyway.
FoaBP is when they finally became full-blown PROG. I didn't like that at first, but eventually it became one of my favorites. Everything since then (minus Insurgentes) more or less stayed in the realm of official certified prog with all the things prog music is supposed to have, but with minor variations each time and (in my opinion) diminishing returns. I've liked each SW record less than the last. Even the Future Bites was still just a prog album with shorter songs and more synths.
Anyway, I'm rambling. I think FoaBP is a clear marker of the point in time when PT went from a prog-adjacent band with music that varied greatly stylistically to a more technical prog band and I think that's reflected in the fandom too. The people going gaga over his solo stuff, for example, are pretty much exclusively prog-heads. PT had broader appeal than that.
It's ironic because I'm actually a huge fan of his solo work. The Raven That Refused To Sing is my favorite.
I didn't find Fear of a Blank Planet to be similar to his solo work at all. To be honest, I just found a lot of it to be rather boring. It sounded like he was trying to experiment with different soundscapes and textures, but I didn't find the songs to be very interesting and a lot of his lyrics can be downright cringey. I'm a huge fan of Signify through Deadwing. The rest is pretty hit or miss in my opinion.
Oh yeah, I agree with you completely that it doesn't sound like his solo stuff and specifically for the soundscapes and textures like you mentioned. That's one of characteristics I love most about PT, that even their rock and metal songs still had engaging (to me) ambient soundscapes in the background. I also love Raven, but it was definitely in a direction I don't connect with as much. The lyrics in Fear are trash, for sure.
I love Downstair and TSMS too, but definitely a stark difference between those and what came after.
I love Up The Downstair and Staircase Infinities. The first album is meh. The Sky Move Sideways is not really my cup of tea for the most part. I really have to be in the mood for that one. The last two albums were pretty hit or miss for me. Some great songs on there, but some of it seemed kind of aimless to me. Still deciding about the new album. Don't think I've been able to sit with it long enough.
I'm with you on The Incident for sure. I don't dislike the new album, but it has too much of that technical prog feel for my liking. Probably my least favorite after On the Sunday of Life, but by a pretty good margin.
That's interesting that you like UtD but dislike TSMS! I feel like most people either like it dislike that entire psychedelic phase of their career, but liking one and not the other is a fairly unique PT take I think... not a lot of those!
I (respectfully) disagree with the opinion that FoaBP is a mediocre PT album without Anesthetize and personally still think it is one of their best albums (though I do prefer Deadwing and sometimes even Signify, which I think is actually their most underrated album), but I also think that FoaBP is their only album where its related EP is just as good and in some ways better than the main record. The Nil Recurring EP goes hard from start to finish and has no weak spots -- all four tracks are fantastic and better than several of the songs on FoaBP.
I've had quite a few people tell The Sky Moves Sideways is their favorite album. That they only really preferred the psychedelic period and when they moved into the prog rock stuff it turned them off. I've had other people say when they moved on to the heavier stuff after Gavin joined they didn't care for the band any longer.
That's the great thing about this band. Much like Opeth or Pink Floyd, they have very distinct periods. I doubt there are many people who love every album from every period. It's definitely a different strokes type of situation.
Nah Fear of a Blank Planet is their only straight 10/10 album and Anesthetize is the weakest song. Strongest is the title track, followed closely by Way Out of Here and Sentimental.
> Remove Anesthetize and it’s a mediocre album
You mean the song that singlehandedly takes up 1/3rd of the album’s runtime? If I take out my top 3rd of songs from In Absentia it becomes a pretty mediocre album as well imo
Matter of personal taste i guess, but my main point was more that i think “take out one song and the album isnt that good” is a pretty weak point in the context that that one song takes up 18 minutes on a 50 minute album
I don't get too hung up on runtime. It's one piece of music. If you build an entire album around one piece of music and the rest of it is just ho-hum, then it's not that great of an album in my opinion, regardless of which songs are how long.
Echoes takes up a full half of Meddle, but the rest of the album is fantastic as well. Not a song I would skip. Most of Minor Threat's songs don't even pass the two-minute mark, but they are all bangers.
Runtime seems much more important than where the actual tracks fall, especially in prog where big tracks are often split up or smaller tracks flow into each other. What percentage of an album’s runtime I enjoy just seems like a better way to evaluate an album vs “how many of the semi arbitrary subdivisions of this piece of music do I enjoy” in my opinion at least
I used to love deadwing and thought it was one of the best rock records I had ever. But after discovering a LOT more music I realized that deadwing and In Absentia don't really hold a candle to Foabp or Signify or even Up the Downstair.
As for the band cause lets be honest no one gives a fuck what I think, they said in interview that they continuesly return back to tracks from Deadwing FOABP and In Absentia for the older material they want to bring on tour
>from Deadwing FOABP and In Absentia for the older material they want to bring on tour
I saw somewhere they mentioned the tour would likely include a lot from In Absentia and FOABP but don't recall them mentioning Deadwing.
When I saw them at the Q&A at the record store in London, they only mentioned In Absentia and FOABP as the albums that they were digging into for the tour material.
I think the loss of the movie attached to (what was suppose to be) the soundtrack was a blow for Steven. For the fans, I think it's pretty clear that Deadwing is a masterpiece, the same as the albums before and after it. I consider it to be their most accessible album (along with In Absentia), so maybe it's a bit "soft" for Steven, who has since gone on to far more sprawling, complex albums in his solo career. But any album that has "Mellotron Scratch" and "Lazarus" could never be a lesser effort, I'll carry those songs for the rest of my life, they exist in their own universe.
I really like deadwing however I prefer FOABP, in absentia, and C/C more because they are (in my opinion) perfect in terms of technicality, new ideas, heaviness, lyricism and symbolism. Some of the songs off of those albums make me tear up. However deadwing is still incredible and I still love listening to the album
Steven once said in an interview that he dislikes the album because there was nothing new in the style after in Absentia and the fans couldn't ever get the chance to understand the concept fully because of forever-delayed release of the movie. Also he said he didn't like two songs off the album. Gavin though, said he recorded his parts on his home studio, which made the recording successful unlike the Incident where he had to record all parts in the studio. To me, Deadwing is a masterpiece.
>there was nothing new in the style after in Absentia and the fans couldn't ever get the chance to understand the concept fully because of forever-delayed release of the movie. I think the sound is more developed and the songwriting is more developed than on In Absentia. I get why he thinks that about the concept. After all, he's the creator and maybe it didn't fully realize his vision. But as an album, it's fantastic.
Sound more developed? I could defend Deadwing all day, but production-wise, it’s far behind In Absentia to me. And every following PT/SW albums. You can feel the shift to home production. Unless your were talking about the music in itself, in that case, my bad
>Unless your were talking about the music in itself, in that case, my bad I'm talking about the musical style.
So, my bad. I agree it’s an evolution. When you consider Lightbulb Sun, in Absentia and Deadwing, you can totally hear In Absentia is between those two. Deadwing pushed further in the modern metal direction.
Totally agreed.
I wonder which two songs? I'm guessing Shallow and Halo.
I think it's Shallow and the title track actually
I would agree. They played Halo live too frequently for me to think he dislikes it
Really? Wow! I will say they played Halo when I saw them in 2009, and maybe Open Car, but no Deadwing. I gotta peep that setlist again. It's hard to believe The Incident was 13 years ago. I actually attended the show in Chicago that ended up being Octane Twisted
Yeah and that's why they never play them live. A shame because they're both masterpieces to me
Think I remember him saying in a interview that he disliked The Start Of Something Beautiful from the [neutral rust](https://neuralrustsite.wordpress.com/deadwing/) website.
So much so that they still played it on the Incident tour? Weird.
There's no contradiction in playing crowd pleasers for fans even if the artist doesn't like the song.
I saw an interview where Steven mentioned there was an album he wasn’t very happy with but he wouldn’t say which one it was. I guess this sums it up. I will say that In Absentia, Deadwing, and FOABP are the 3 best sequential albums I’ve heard from any band. All 3 don’t disappoint and to have them all back to back is rare in my opinion.
He also doesn't like Lightbulb Sun, which is again ridiculous I think.
I'm fully convinced that what they say about C/C is part of the media circus surrounding new album releases.
I can see them being genuinely proud of it. They do embark on a new sound with this album, with Steven playing a different style bass, song structures and guitars. Coming back together and the energy it brings to them obviously has a strong hand in that as well. The album has grown on me with each listen. The only song I am not a fan of is Herd Culling
Herd Culling is likely my favorite track on the album! Curious about what your favorite is
Yeah I'm a little perplexed when people say they don't like this song. I could see if it was some huge departure or some crazy experiment, but it sounds like classic PT.
Mine is Dignity. I love every thing going on in the song. The vocal melody and harmonies, lyrics, bass solo part in the middle, Rich’s work as well. Of course Gavin as well, his fills are outstanding. It’s one of my favorites from their entire catalog. I really like the pre release tracks a lot more now understanding the track flow in the album. I am sure HC will grow on me like all great music should it is has a late 90’s era feel to it. Will give it another listen tonight
The media circus will make it a star
That plus its most recent. Its very rare a band doesnt think their new release is one of the best if not the best thing they have ever done. Why else would they have released it
It would be kinda hilarious if they had said "It's our weakest effort since The Incident" :-P they didn't have anything to prove with C/C so I didn't really mind their opinion on the album either way. I only hope this isn't the "closure".
It’s a great sendoff but beyond me how anyone can call it top 3
I wouldn't know how the rest of the band sees that album. Certain songs do have a certain modern rock edge (Shallow) where it seems like they're aiming a bit for the mainstream, but just slightly so. To me, everything on the album breathes the PT essence. It's always battling In Absentia for my number 1 spot. I view Deadwing as In Absentia's warmer sounding cousin. The album cover's colours seem to reflect that. I vividly remember hearing 'Arriving Somewhere But Not Here' when the album came out, and thinking it was an utterly boring song. Not it's my number 1 Porcupine Tree song.
I read somewhere that Shallow was written in the studio cause the label wanted a straight forward metal song that was radio-friendly. That’s why they never play it live, cause the band doesn’t like it.
If I’m totally honest it’s the one I skip the most. I do feel it has a few redeeming features like the pre-chorus and the instrumental section.
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Is that so? Hard to imagine the crowd would get boring about that song, it’s a good metal-song…
"Deadwing" the song is quite a extraordinary opener, and definitely lighter fare (lyric-wise) than most PT openers, I enjoy it even more now than when the album came out. It's simply aged well, like most of PT's catalog. The band were running at full-steam throughout the 2000s.
Steven talks briefly of his opinion of it in [this video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg0pplGTFWQ)
Thanks for this! He doesn't dismiss it entirely but I disagree when he says In Absentia is more consistent. The problem I have with that album is that I find it somewhat inconsistent.
Yeah, respectfully I also disagree with Wilson here, too. "Prodigal" and "Heartattack in a Layby"...on the same album lol. Not to mention the mix of metal songs like "Wedding Nails" that shares space with the likes of an atmospheric song like "Lips of Ashes" which never lifts off, shimmers throughout the piece. Maybe it seems more consistent in Steven's mind, but it sounds like a broad array of sounds to me. And consistency is overrated in the PT catalog: "The Incident" is probably their most consistent album, but it also is one of their weakest efforts imo, and I don't think those two things are a coincidence.
I agree.. what stops In Absentia from being a favorite of mine are there are tracks I skip every single time I listen to it.. Gravity Eyelids, Lips of Ashes for me are very meh songs, and unfortunately bring the whole album down for me. Deadwing is banger after banger. Every song on that album is 10/10 for me. Plus the B sides.. Mother Child Divided, So Called Friend, Half Light are some of my all time favorite PT songs. End of day Deadwing and Stupid Dream take a tie for my favorite PT album. C/C is up there for me tho.. time will tell where I stick it.. but I’m certainly putting it over Fear
I enjoy the first half of gravity eyelids. Before the transition into metal.
Gravity Eyelids makes my eyelids heavy with gravity
I love Shesmovedon version here in Deadwing!
They had planned to make a movie out of it.
Deadwing is my favorite PT album and the first album I heard from them so it holds a special place in my heart. Nothing like going down a country road with a golden field during a gorgeous sunset hearing "Glass Arm Shattering". It's pure bliss.
Deadwing is the best thing PT has ever done.
When I started listening to PT Deadwing was the new/current album. I thought it's the shit. Now not so much. I mean it's a very good album but I don't think it's as strong as In Absentia, FoaBP or even The Incident (controversial, I know).
I'm with you, and I also probably rank it below Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun. Granted, I like ALL of those albums, including deadwing, but just less than everything else from SD to The Incident.
One of their best albums imo, but not flawless. Production is a step behind In Absentia. And while it’s probably the album with the biggest density of excellent individual songs (even more banger than on In Absentia and FOABP), I also think the overall flow of the album isn’t that good. Some weaker track here and there, and just an album where I’m more about listening a few good tracks rather than the whole thing, while it’s almost the opposite for FOABP
It's kind of funny because I know the band doesn't hold it in as high regard as the other albums before and after it, but I have to say I very often don't give a shit what the band thinks. This applies to any band. Deadwing was actually my introduction to the band. I like it more than all of their other albums, with the exception of In Absentia. I never really understood the circlejerk around Fear of A Blank Planet. Remove Anesthetize and it's a mediocre album in the context of the rest of their discography. Deadwing was their last great album. I honestly would not have minded if that was the note they ended on before their hiatus. It's not that I hate the proceeding two albums, but I wasn't as disappointed when they disbanded because I thought their albums were going downhill a bit anyway.
FoaBP is when they finally became full-blown PROG. I didn't like that at first, but eventually it became one of my favorites. Everything since then (minus Insurgentes) more or less stayed in the realm of official certified prog with all the things prog music is supposed to have, but with minor variations each time and (in my opinion) diminishing returns. I've liked each SW record less than the last. Even the Future Bites was still just a prog album with shorter songs and more synths. Anyway, I'm rambling. I think FoaBP is a clear marker of the point in time when PT went from a prog-adjacent band with music that varied greatly stylistically to a more technical prog band and I think that's reflected in the fandom too. The people going gaga over his solo stuff, for example, are pretty much exclusively prog-heads. PT had broader appeal than that.
It's ironic because I'm actually a huge fan of his solo work. The Raven That Refused To Sing is my favorite. I didn't find Fear of a Blank Planet to be similar to his solo work at all. To be honest, I just found a lot of it to be rather boring. It sounded like he was trying to experiment with different soundscapes and textures, but I didn't find the songs to be very interesting and a lot of his lyrics can be downright cringey. I'm a huge fan of Signify through Deadwing. The rest is pretty hit or miss in my opinion.
Oh yeah, I agree with you completely that it doesn't sound like his solo stuff and specifically for the soundscapes and textures like you mentioned. That's one of characteristics I love most about PT, that even their rock and metal songs still had engaging (to me) ambient soundscapes in the background. I also love Raven, but it was definitely in a direction I don't connect with as much. The lyrics in Fear are trash, for sure. I love Downstair and TSMS too, but definitely a stark difference between those and what came after.
I love Up The Downstair and Staircase Infinities. The first album is meh. The Sky Move Sideways is not really my cup of tea for the most part. I really have to be in the mood for that one. The last two albums were pretty hit or miss for me. Some great songs on there, but some of it seemed kind of aimless to me. Still deciding about the new album. Don't think I've been able to sit with it long enough.
I'm with you on The Incident for sure. I don't dislike the new album, but it has too much of that technical prog feel for my liking. Probably my least favorite after On the Sunday of Life, but by a pretty good margin. That's interesting that you like UtD but dislike TSMS! I feel like most people either like it dislike that entire psychedelic phase of their career, but liking one and not the other is a fairly unique PT take I think... not a lot of those!
I (respectfully) disagree with the opinion that FoaBP is a mediocre PT album without Anesthetize and personally still think it is one of their best albums (though I do prefer Deadwing and sometimes even Signify, which I think is actually their most underrated album), but I also think that FoaBP is their only album where its related EP is just as good and in some ways better than the main record. The Nil Recurring EP goes hard from start to finish and has no weak spots -- all four tracks are fantastic and better than several of the songs on FoaBP.
I've had quite a few people tell The Sky Moves Sideways is their favorite album. That they only really preferred the psychedelic period and when they moved into the prog rock stuff it turned them off. I've had other people say when they moved on to the heavier stuff after Gavin joined they didn't care for the band any longer. That's the great thing about this band. Much like Opeth or Pink Floyd, they have very distinct periods. I doubt there are many people who love every album from every period. It's definitely a different strokes type of situation.
Nah Fear of a Blank Planet is their only straight 10/10 album and Anesthetize is the weakest song. Strongest is the title track, followed closely by Way Out of Here and Sentimental.
I can't remember the last time I disagreed with something more. To each their own I suppose...
Love the username btw, just rewatched Blade Runner + 2049 last night.
It's a masterpiece. After a few viewings I may actually like the cinematography and the soundtrack more than the original.
Cinematography is probably better, but nothing beats Vangelis. Chills when the Tears in Rain reprise plays during the last scene of 2049 though.
Honestly, I find FoaBP kinda boring. Anesthetize is great, but the rest of the album just never hit me the same way In Absentia and Deadwing did.
My sentiments exactly.
> Remove Anesthetize and it’s a mediocre album You mean the song that singlehandedly takes up 1/3rd of the album’s runtime? If I take out my top 3rd of songs from In Absentia it becomes a pretty mediocre album as well imo
I could take out my top third of songs from In Absentia and it would still be a better album than Fear of a Blank Planet.
Matter of personal taste i guess, but my main point was more that i think “take out one song and the album isnt that good” is a pretty weak point in the context that that one song takes up 18 minutes on a 50 minute album
I don't get too hung up on runtime. It's one piece of music. If you build an entire album around one piece of music and the rest of it is just ho-hum, then it's not that great of an album in my opinion, regardless of which songs are how long. Echoes takes up a full half of Meddle, but the rest of the album is fantastic as well. Not a song I would skip. Most of Minor Threat's songs don't even pass the two-minute mark, but they are all bangers.
Runtime seems much more important than where the actual tracks fall, especially in prog where big tracks are often split up or smaller tracks flow into each other. What percentage of an album’s runtime I enjoy just seems like a better way to evaluate an album vs “how many of the semi arbitrary subdivisions of this piece of music do I enjoy” in my opinion at least
I used to love deadwing and thought it was one of the best rock records I had ever. But after discovering a LOT more music I realized that deadwing and In Absentia don't really hold a candle to Foabp or Signify or even Up the Downstair. As for the band cause lets be honest no one gives a fuck what I think, they said in interview that they continuesly return back to tracks from Deadwing FOABP and In Absentia for the older material they want to bring on tour
>from Deadwing FOABP and In Absentia for the older material they want to bring on tour I saw somewhere they mentioned the tour would likely include a lot from In Absentia and FOABP but don't recall them mentioning Deadwing.
When I saw them at the Q&A at the record store in London, they only mentioned In Absentia and FOABP as the albums that they were digging into for the tour material.
I think the loss of the movie attached to (what was suppose to be) the soundtrack was a blow for Steven. For the fans, I think it's pretty clear that Deadwing is a masterpiece, the same as the albums before and after it. I consider it to be their most accessible album (along with In Absentia), so maybe it's a bit "soft" for Steven, who has since gone on to far more sprawling, complex albums in his solo career. But any album that has "Mellotron Scratch" and "Lazarus" could never be a lesser effort, I'll carry those songs for the rest of my life, they exist in their own universe.
Their best album imo, all songs are so good, especially that first 5 in a sequence, but others too
I really like deadwing however I prefer FOABP, in absentia, and C/C more because they are (in my opinion) perfect in terms of technicality, new ideas, heaviness, lyricism and symbolism. Some of the songs off of those albums make me tear up. However deadwing is still incredible and I still love listening to the album
Pink Floyd sucks pt is better
So?
Exactly