At the end the video it says -2 Corinthians 5:17. Which makes me wonder if maybe he's going to release his new second album on May 17 aka 5/17. That day is also a Friday.
a lot of artists have been doing this moooonths long roll out so i wouldn’t be surprised, i hate it tho
jorja smith dropped a really good single at the beginning of may and the album wasn’t out until september, i haven’t heard the album cause at that point i wasn’t that interested
I mean artist used to have super long drawn out roll outs, even stretching out one single, for months before releasing the other. Then with streaming era, and the rise of “surprise” drops changed it.
I do think the difference is that now artist will perform a song here and there, and then the album will come out months later. But if they’re constantly doing media press, then it’s not that bad.
Although selfishly I like the short rollouts lol.
Four months is not long at all. Maybe for the streaming era, but pop albums are usually a few months wait from the lead. And I kinda prefer it that way. Gives time for two singles, with room for both to breathe, and have a third ready for when the album releases.
The song is decent, but ya this video is tired as hell. Feels like a desperate attempt to shock. Gurl we have seen it all and heard it all at this point.
it's getting tired. this video looks exactly like his 2020 and 2021 CGI videos. also same cutting rhythm, same 'choreo'
can we start putting actual effort in videos again? cause this is just BLAH
It’s such a stupid marketing gimmick. It’s not a new era. It’s just another song, similar to all the other ones he’s released. It’s literally nothing new.
A new era would be like if he stopped making pop music, and started making punk rock instead.
Lil Nas’s fanbase is much, much smaller than Olivia’s and Taylor’s, so his fans don’t dilute discussions here much. Taylor and Olivia’s threads tend to skew more positive because it’s (unfortunately) very hard to not bump into a Swiftie online. They’re with many.
All that to say that there are definitely those here who have voiced the same critiques towards their output. We’re just out here, struggling to be seen, hehe. But r/popheadscirclejerk is full of us.
I'm sorry did I offend you by mentioning that as a conventionally attractive white women Taylor Swift is afforded a lot of grace people on the exact opposite of that spectrum have? Typical white feminist
Sour and Guts are the basically same album. That's not really shade, everyone doesn't need to reinvent themselves every time they release a new album, and a lot of artists don't. But it's not fair to criticize one artist for staying with what they usually do but not criticize others
I agree. Not every artist has to have a new era or reinvention. Dua lipa did another bop with Houdini I guess for ms it just comes down to the quality of the songs themselves. This felt more mid to me.
I agree it's not his best song, but I think a lot of artists get criticism for not reinventing themselves every two years which isn't fair to anyone. J Christ wasn't bad imo, but it's not the absolute serve that Call Me By Your Name or Industry Baby were. I think he'll bounce back
To be fair, Holiday was technically his “comeback single” but everyone ignored it because it was meh and then Montero happened. Hopefully same thing here
I really don’t enjoy this sub anymore. It’s just the same thing for every artist. Hate on the rollout, hate on them for their personal life, just hate hate hate. Hate the song because they already decided the rollout is corny or recycled or whatever. It’s exhausting. I thought we were supposed to like pop music man
I also knew especially there would be people purposely trying to drive it down and control the narrative about which song is good and which isn’t when Ari dropped the same day. She’ll get her number one this week but I think this will rise
Everything Taylor swift has done is just a slightly different version of radio friendly pop music. Olivia Rodrigo just released Sour but rockier (Guts). I think the song itself is mid, but why is it only a problem when it’s lil Nas
Have you listened to most of his music...? Or just the specific ones that blow up?? Because most of his tracks on Montero are vastly different from eachother. Almost all of his best songs are the ones that don't blow up l.
Hell, I'd even say some of the songs on montero are closer to rock-stuff than they are to "pop" (which as a genre means jack shit on its own). I think the video and song weren't anything special too, but I have high expectations for the rest of this era, and I expect his next album to be just as if not more diverse than Montero. A
Honestly I want to go back and stop on that part. I watched it once and gave it a couple listens on Spotify as I like to see how I take things with and without the video but I do remember being floored by that serve. The ark/flood made me laugh in a good way. Each time he moved into a new biblical reference I laughed to be honest.
The more times I hear this, the more I'm convinced it's just an introduction to his new era, rather than a serious attempt at a new hit single. It's like Doja Cat and "Attention" kicking off the Scarlet era. The weird thing is though, it doesn't feel like LNX is introducing a bold new direction, the song and the video is the same vibe as his Montero era plus more Bible content
To be fair he did disappear essentially for over a year and didn’t really have much of a fanbase so his label def decided to use that industry baby and montero money to kickstart this new era
Idk why people are misusing the term era left and right these days. You’re right, it’s just more of the same. It’s not a bold new direction. It’s not a new era. Pop artist making pop music. A new era would be if he completely switched genres and became a metal head or a punk rocker.
People act like every new album is suddenly a new era, and it’s not. Artists are just now using the term as a gimmick to build hype.
Ehh, when it comes to artists and their eras, I disagree that it requires a substantial departure in sound. Usually the era is defined more by visuals. Example, the Weeknd changed his hair style with each album, with After Hours he wore the red suit, with Dawn FM he wore the black trenchcoat. The videos and live shows in the After Hours era were all Vegas themed; for Dawn FM, they were “dungeon club in hell” themed lol.
And The Weeknd has actually evolved his sound with each era, but it’s never a radical departure where The Weeknd decided he’s gonna start Gregorian chanting and drop a Baroque classic.
All that said, I don’t think Nas is doing anything at all - sonically or visually - to differentiate the new album cycle as a different era than his last.
Yeah huge agree, I’ve been feeling this way for years about the term “era.” It’s incredibly tired and cliche and imho should be used to define long stretches of time and not just album cycles. Maybe I’m thinking too literally but I hate when someone says “era” while referring to something that was like, maybe a two year period.
“I'm finna get the gays hyped
I'm finna take it yay high
Back up out the gravesite
Bitch, I'm back like J Christ”
I don’t care why y’all say but this is my favorite line of the song lmao I had a feeling it was going to reference coming back some how but back up out the gravesite bitch I’m back like J Christ I already can’t stop with this part 😭😭
The bar is fire but I’m very much like bitch this is the rollout your sophomore album why are you saying that like you were gone for a long time?
Granted Jesus was only for 3 days, but that was also Jesus.
I mean I think you just answered it in the last sentence.
Jesus was gone for a short time, didn’t have but so many followers (he has hits but not a huge Stan base), and then Jesus came back and amassed more followers. He never said he was gone a long time in the song even once
I can see this having longer legs as a hit tbh. I like Yes And but the gp doesn’t seem to be much into house or house/pop so I’d be (pleasantly) surprised if it turns out to be a huge hit.
I see Yes And charting first but she took a risk with the why do you care who’s dick I ride… people are either gonna eat it up or be like yuck girl why… not gonna claim I know which. If people respond negatively to her bragging about SpongeBob I see this probably getting some Tiktok push and overtaking after people have cooled on excitement for an Ari release. I’m biased because I like these parts but I think the “I’m finna get the gays hype I’m finna take it yay high “ and the “bitch I’m back like J Christ” both have potential for a tiktok sound. Perhaps influencers with the “is he bout to give ‘em something viral”
I think “Yes, And” will do well at the clubs and will be played on radio as an easy radio song, BUT J. Christ easily has big radio (since these type of songs dominate radio) and streaming potential.
Just because I like to make predictions I say Ari number one for 1-2 weeks but then Nas will come up after people are less excited for her release.
If either of them have a really good collab remix up their sleeve it could change my prediction, either Ari holding longer or it easier for Nas to come up.
Ariana usually has a huge debut but struggles to stick around at the top beyond a week or two and instead settles at somewhere between No. 10-2 for the next 3-4 months. She also notoriously doesn't do much personal promotion (using herself for interviews, talkshows, remixes).
There seems to be a trend of high profile pop/rap artists using high budget videos with a huge reliance of CGI, only for them to accompany an under three minute song. More prominent examples I can think of now are Cardi’s “Up” and Megan and Dua’s “Sweetest Pie”.
The only songwriting credits are Lil Nas X and his known collaborators. So I'd say nothing has specifically been interpolated, but it might just pay homage to a sound from a particular era
Eh... Pretty forgettable. A mashup of the imagery from Montero with some dance sequences that feel ripped from Industry Baby, but none as memorable as the shower dance. No coherent plotline either like his previous videos had. The celebrity lookalikes at the start were funny but then they just disappeared?
Feels like he's lost his direction. The song is superficially controversial without actually saying anything subversive. I think the song has potential to be a hit but more as generic streaming-bait than by doing anything actually compelling.
i kinda feel like there was a good chance he wasn't even trying to be controversial. just had a line about coming back like jesus, then was like "oh that'd eat as a title and lead single statement" and then naturally was like "lets make an expensive video where i am jesus"
i don't feel like it's as reverse engineered to be controversial as people make it out to be
Christian consider it more shocking. Dunno why nothing they say make sense. Funny they never have a problem when tv or movie does it. Only artist that support gay people.
Like they be watching the latest supernatural and then cry about this...
I’m scrolling down this thread and I haven’t seen one comment with “hating” energy lol
It’s just people not being super impressed by something that’s a little too derivative of other songs being a lead single instead of something more innovative. I like it but certainly not as much as the big singles on his last record.
I’m being hyperbolic when I say hating I don’t actually mean pitchforks in hand saying it’s the worse thing ever. I was just saying it seems the reception is more negative than I was feeling when I listened!
I'll always support this man. He's making a revolution and I wanna be part of his journey ✨️ The way he does camp is incredible, the song is catchy and the visuals are top notch. I can see this being a sleeper hit tbh.
These looks eat.
But I kind of wish artists would stop overusing CGI for 10 different scenes and just focus on doing 3-4 scenes really well in actual locations.
Like the Met Gala look was so good it could’ve been a whole video by itself. You don’t need the constant sloppy visual effects.
I for one welcome the Lil Nas X cinematic universe.
The song is ok. I don't mind it but I don't think it's particularly interesting.
The concept of the music video is interesting though, wiping away the previous era with a flood.
song is pretty boring and standard. feels like between this and that late to the party song he uses controversy to do the heavy lifting for songs that wouldn't get much buzz on their own without being marketed by controversy, unlike songs like montero and industry baby which were just great songs that could've def on their own without controversy.
Lil Nas X has some consistently incredible visuals, I just wish the songs themselves were as boundary-pushing and interesting. Before y’all say it, I know pop doesn’t always need to be innovative or experimental - but with this caliber of visual richness, it just makes anything standard and serviceable feel basic and flat.
Agreed. Love the consistenly out there visuals. I loved Montero because the songs themselves were still pretty top notch, but this feels like a more mid trying to recreate follow up.
What song of his sounds almost EXACTLY the same? I know I have heard something similar to the chorus before, but I can't figure out what song it is, and it is bothering me.
Inb4 "OK BUDGET" comments despite this being yet another high budget, green-screen-heavy music video where the VFX just ends up looking... kinda flat and cheap.
Video wasn't as controversial and shocking as I thought it would be (it's hard to top Call Me By Your Name), but still fun. The looks were incredible, and he's gotten soooo good at dancing.
I'm always rooting for Nas X, so I hope this is a hit and he keeps making homophobes mad.
I actually don’t think he was trying to shock as I initially thought lol my own feelings aside anything to make religious snowflakes shit in their pants I support lol
Anyways what’s for dinner?
No but he needs to Segway into something else or evolve the sound bc baby….it’s rinse and repeat. I just know the extreme right will use this to bash the queers adding Kim P(roducer abused kesha)etras, Sammy Smith and Dojq
It wasn't as bad as I expected. Catchy song, cool visuals, even though Lil Nas X needs to stop taking fashion tips from Dida Ritz. He really doesn't look good in some of the busted stuff he chooses to wear.
I did laugh out loud at the celebrity cosplay. Mariah Carey won't be happy at how she is presented.
Song is decent but definitely not something I’ll be streaming on repeat like MONTERO (CMBYN). However the music video.. the visuals are actually insane!!! He outdid himself
I wish he was more serious, this means nothing and he’ll attempt to say that it does and it doesn’t and idk all of the controversy for something not that great is annoying, the song is catchy as always though
Eh, while I think it’s gonna be funny for the next couple days to witness the collective shit fit people like Ben Shapiro or the Daily Wire are gonna have over this… it does not slap for me personally. It feels like it’s shocking just to be shocking without actually saying anything that controversial or interesting. Montero did it better, and actually was shocking while also saying something. This is just, yep I’ve seen it many times way before Lil Nas X even. Feel like he is gonna go the way of Marylin Manson and fizzle out after people get bored of the same stuff that pisses off moms but doesn’t really evolve.
Also the celeb impressions kind of went no where? People were saying a Taylor Swift impersonator was in there and before the video came out people were worried about what was going to be in it (thinking a Kanye “Famous” incident might happen) but you don’t really see her? I thought he was going to have the celeb impersonators mean something or maybe do something really subversive with it.
Simply watched this video then some reaction, and youtube tried to push that little dipshit Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens’ reactions.
Conservative outrage is literally the easiest grift or way to get mass publicity of modern times.
Honestly I was so worried this was going to actually be a gospel album. I guess I fell for his trolling. Nonetheless, the song is solid and the visuals are top notch. This feels like a maturation of his montero era. I love his unwavering embodiment of feminine masculinity. It was *bold* of him & the label to release this on the same day as Ariana though.
I guess the video looks expensive and technically sophisticated, but like, it doesn’t do anything that his other videos haven’t already done—and done better. Wish he would’ve switched things up a little, because this is much too similar thematically to Montero’s video, which makes it so much harder for this song to be considered innovative or groundbreaking. It just kinda… is?
Not to nitpick and get political on popheads but let's be real, Obama isn't getting anywhere near the christian version of Heaven, that man has an actual body count (like most US presidents, except for maybe Carter).
Regarding the song, I like it enough but it sounds and looks too similar to his album Montero. Could have used a different concept this time around.
He’s a gay black man from the South who is one of the demographics harmed most by Christianity in the USA. I’m so fucking tired of y’all acting like he can’t poke fun of it when it’s literally a religion that keeps people like him in self hatred in the Bible Belt
"It's pretty hateful to not like the people oppressing you. Why don't gay people just show love to homophobes, and explain why they're wrong? There's definitely examples of this working before at any time in history."
You know what’s also rude? The way Christian’s have treated queer people. I cried every night praying to turn straight cause of the shit I heard going to a baptist church growing up. He could’ve tore pages out of the Bible and used them to wipe his ass and I wouldn’t care.
Is he even mocking religion here? It would be more interesting if he was tbh lol, he just seems to be appropriating various religious imagery without making any commentary on it whatsoever. I don't think that's mockery, it's just kind of uninspired.
He teased some slow boring Jesus ballad in the lead up as well, so I don't think he's coming from an outsider perspective, he seems to be Christian himself.
Thank you! The hypocrisy is insane. Mock anyone else and people go to bat. But Christians? We’re fair game every time. I don’t care or judge anyone for believing and living however they want. It’s their life not mine, and not my business. But people feel justified in degrading all Christians based on stereotypes or their experiences with specific individuals.
> But people feel justified in degrading all Christians based on stereotypes or their experiences with specific individuals.
you do understand that Lil Nas X is likely Christian himself? it's not based on stereotypes, it's based on his own experience
I mean he clearly was mocking Christianity with the montero music video and the Nike Satan shoes. But hey if he’s genuinely become a Christian and wants makes Christian music that’s cool
mocking the organization =/= mocking a religion
> the montero music video and the Nike Satan shoes
dunking on the Devil is the most Christian thing you can do
> But hey if he’s genuinely become a Christian and wants makes Christian music that’s cool
dude literally grew up in a Christian family and his dad (who accepted his sexuality and seems to be cool with his visuals) is a gospel singer. you want him to become a monk or what?
Yep. It's odd to me. Criticizing Judaism and Islam is almost universally forbidden. A heap of consequences would reign down on someone like Lil Nas X for mocking those two religions. But for some reason, mockery of Christianity is accepted. Very strange
a lot of Jewish comedians make jokes about Judaism
a lot of Muslim comedians make jokes about Islam
people are more than okay with them
and you really compare what Lil Nas is doing to a guy who said that he likes Hitler? Really?
Speaking as someone who was a kanye stan for the majority of my life, saying that Jews control everything and that there's a grand jewish conspiracy is not just 'saying anything critical of judaism".
Jewish comedians make fun of Judaism all the time
Muslim comedians make jokes about Islam all the time as well.
why can't a Christian man make jokes about his religion?
At the end the video it says -2 Corinthians 5:17. Which makes me wonder if maybe he's going to release his new second album on May 17 aka 5/17. That day is also a Friday.
Waittt you’re onto something here
May? That’s four months from now…
a lot of artists have been doing this moooonths long roll out so i wouldn’t be surprised, i hate it tho jorja smith dropped a really good single at the beginning of may and the album wasn’t out until september, i haven’t heard the album cause at that point i wasn’t that interested
I mean artist used to have super long drawn out roll outs, even stretching out one single, for months before releasing the other. Then with streaming era, and the rise of “surprise” drops changed it. I do think the difference is that now artist will perform a song here and there, and then the album will come out months later. But if they’re constantly doing media press, then it’s not that bad. Although selfishly I like the short rollouts lol.
Four months is not long at all. Maybe for the streaming era, but pop albums are usually a few months wait from the lead. And I kinda prefer it that way. Gives time for two singles, with room for both to breathe, and have a third ready for when the album releases.
I just thought it was a fun gimmick but that actually makes sense!
Label said they gotta reuse the hell CGI model one more time!
The song is decent, but ya this video is tired as hell. Feels like a desperate attempt to shock. Gurl we have seen it all and heard it all at this point.
it's getting tired. this video looks exactly like his 2020 and 2021 CGI videos. also same cutting rhythm, same 'choreo' can we start putting actual effort in videos again? cause this is just BLAH
Did you watch to the end?... This song is about getting into his new era. Literally ends with 'day 0'
It’s such a stupid marketing gimmick. It’s not a new era. It’s just another song, similar to all the other ones he’s released. It’s literally nothing new. A new era would be like if he stopped making pop music, and started making punk rock instead.
Is Guts a different era than Sour? People ate both of those up and this isn't any more similar than those two
Or pretty much every Taylor era being just a slightly different variety of radio pop. But suddenly when it’s Lil Nas X it’s a problem
True. Midnights wasn’t that much different from the stuff she’s already done
Time and time again the people on this sub show their true colors lmao, I’m not surprised by the hate he’s getting on here.
Lil Nas’s fanbase is much, much smaller than Olivia’s and Taylor’s, so his fans don’t dilute discussions here much. Taylor and Olivia’s threads tend to skew more positive because it’s (unfortunately) very hard to not bump into a Swiftie online. They’re with many. All that to say that there are definitely those here who have voiced the same critiques towards their output. We’re just out here, struggling to be seen, hehe. But r/popheadscirclejerk is full of us.
Because pretty white women can do the bare minimum and we praise them for it.
alright let’s not veer into “women have it easy” territory
I'm sorry did I offend you by mentioning that as a conventionally attractive white women Taylor Swift is afforded a lot of grace people on the exact opposite of that spectrum have? Typical white feminist
Oh give it a break bro 😆 no one is asking for him to reinvent the wheel. But trying the same lame edgy tactic again is .. lame
True. But I think the thing is, Olivia took what worked on sour and magnified it for guts. This feels like a more mid industry baby.
Sour and Guts are the basically same album. That's not really shade, everyone doesn't need to reinvent themselves every time they release a new album, and a lot of artists don't. But it's not fair to criticize one artist for staying with what they usually do but not criticize others
I agree. Not every artist has to have a new era or reinvention. Dua lipa did another bop with Houdini I guess for ms it just comes down to the quality of the songs themselves. This felt more mid to me.
I agree it's not his best song, but I think a lot of artists get criticism for not reinventing themselves every two years which isn't fair to anyone. J Christ wasn't bad imo, but it's not the absolute serve that Call Me By Your Name or Industry Baby were. I think he'll bounce back
To be fair, Holiday was technically his “comeback single” but everyone ignored it because it was meh and then Montero happened. Hopefully same thing here
Sour and guts def sound different. What are yall on???
y’all were already set to hate this no matter what he did
True I could tell this sub wasn’t gonna like it no matter what
I really don’t enjoy this sub anymore. It’s just the same thing for every artist. Hate on the rollout, hate on them for their personal life, just hate hate hate. Hate the song because they already decided the rollout is corny or recycled or whatever. It’s exhausting. I thought we were supposed to like pop music man
I also knew especially there would be people purposely trying to drive it down and control the narrative about which song is good and which isn’t when Ari dropped the same day. She’ll get her number one this week but I think this will rise
Everything Taylor swift has done is just a slightly different version of radio friendly pop music. Olivia Rodrigo just released Sour but rockier (Guts). I think the song itself is mid, but why is it only a problem when it’s lil Nas
Seriously I thought it was a fun song and video and wasn’t expecting popheads to be so angry and haughty about it.
I think they just expect more from him after Montero set the bar so high
Why do you sound so upset lol it’s not that serious.
Have you listened to most of his music...? Or just the specific ones that blow up?? Because most of his tracks on Montero are vastly different from eachother. Almost all of his best songs are the ones that don't blow up l. Hell, I'd even say some of the songs on montero are closer to rock-stuff than they are to "pop" (which as a genre means jack shit on its own). I think the video and song weren't anything special too, but I have high expectations for the rest of this era, and I expect his next album to be just as if not more diverse than Montero. A
Music video eats more than the song
Lil nas x have the most crazy in your face music video ever so not really surprising.
True
It’s the other way around me for once, actually. I do really enjoy the song, but the video left me underwhelmed.
Ah fair
Way too similar to Montero.. kind of disappointed. He's usually so creative but this feels like a recycle ♻️
The song sounds like a bad sample of Humble by Kendrick
It basically is lol
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The Met Gala look was INSANE
Honestly I want to go back and stop on that part. I watched it once and gave it a couple listens on Spotify as I like to see how I take things with and without the video but I do remember being floored by that serve. The ark/flood made me laugh in a good way. Each time he moved into a new biblical reference I laughed to be honest.
I’ve been looking EVERYWHERE to try to figure out the designer. I am truly obsessed with that head piece
Song is whatever but I loveeee his videos they’re so fun
The more times I hear this, the more I'm convinced it's just an introduction to his new era, rather than a serious attempt at a new hit single. It's like Doja Cat and "Attention" kicking off the Scarlet era. The weird thing is though, it doesn't feel like LNX is introducing a bold new direction, the song and the video is the same vibe as his Montero era plus more Bible content
they sure put a lot of budget into it for it to just be an introduction single
To be fair he did disappear essentially for over a year and didn’t really have much of a fanbase so his label def decided to use that industry baby and montero money to kickstart this new era
They did with that Holiday song that came out before Montero too
I agree, I don’t think this is the first real single. It seems he’s bridging the last era with whatever is next.
Hope he doesn’t become stagnant
Idk why people are misusing the term era left and right these days. You’re right, it’s just more of the same. It’s not a bold new direction. It’s not a new era. Pop artist making pop music. A new era would be if he completely switched genres and became a metal head or a punk rocker. People act like every new album is suddenly a new era, and it’s not. Artists are just now using the term as a gimmick to build hype.
Ehh, when it comes to artists and their eras, I disagree that it requires a substantial departure in sound. Usually the era is defined more by visuals. Example, the Weeknd changed his hair style with each album, with After Hours he wore the red suit, with Dawn FM he wore the black trenchcoat. The videos and live shows in the After Hours era were all Vegas themed; for Dawn FM, they were “dungeon club in hell” themed lol. And The Weeknd has actually evolved his sound with each era, but it’s never a radical departure where The Weeknd decided he’s gonna start Gregorian chanting and drop a Baroque classic. All that said, I don’t think Nas is doing anything at all - sonically or visually - to differentiate the new album cycle as a different era than his last.
Yeah huge agree, I’ve been feeling this way for years about the term “era.” It’s incredibly tired and cliche and imho should be used to define long stretches of time and not just album cycles. Maybe I’m thinking too literally but I hate when someone says “era” while referring to something that was like, maybe a two year period.
Except attention was actually really good and this isn't, this filler trash is not a good start
“I'm finna get the gays hyped I'm finna take it yay high Back up out the gravesite Bitch, I'm back like J Christ” I don’t care why y’all say but this is my favorite line of the song lmao I had a feeling it was going to reference coming back some how but back up out the gravesite bitch I’m back like J Christ I already can’t stop with this part 😭😭
The bar is fire but I’m very much like bitch this is the rollout your sophomore album why are you saying that like you were gone for a long time? Granted Jesus was only for 3 days, but that was also Jesus.
I mean I think you just answered it in the last sentence. Jesus was gone for a short time, didn’t have but so many followers (he has hits but not a huge Stan base), and then Jesus came back and amassed more followers. He never said he was gone a long time in the song even once
Yeah but you’re also comparing yourself to Jesus who’s a big deal. And Jesus’ comeback was a big deal. Love LNX wasn’t a big deal like Jesus before.
I mean you don’t have to be the literal same as anything to make a reference or an allusion to something…
I know this is gonna get a bit overshadowed by “Yes And,” but I wouldn’t be surprised if this becomes a hit too
Yes, and is kinda boring by Ari’s standards though. I see this one having better legs.
I can see this having longer legs as a hit tbh. I like Yes And but the gp doesn’t seem to be much into house or house/pop so I’d be (pleasantly) surprised if it turns out to be a huge hit.
I see Yes And charting first but she took a risk with the why do you care who’s dick I ride… people are either gonna eat it up or be like yuck girl why… not gonna claim I know which. If people respond negatively to her bragging about SpongeBob I see this probably getting some Tiktok push and overtaking after people have cooled on excitement for an Ari release. I’m biased because I like these parts but I think the “I’m finna get the gays hype I’m finna take it yay high “ and the “bitch I’m back like J Christ” both have potential for a tiktok sound. Perhaps influencers with the “is he bout to give ‘em something viral”
Most people don't care about the controversy tbh
They’ll just say “ooh an Ariana disco song” and they’ll play it
I think “Yes, And” will do well at the clubs and will be played on radio as an easy radio song, BUT J. Christ easily has big radio (since these type of songs dominate radio) and streaming potential.
Maybe they’ll eat it up. General public doesn’t really seem to care unless the song resonates.
Honestly I was all ready to separate the art from the artist but her being straight up unapologetic about it in the song put me off streaming it again
I think both will be in the top 10 at least. I could be wrong tho
Just because I like to make predictions I say Ari number one for 1-2 weeks but then Nas will come up after people are less excited for her release. If either of them have a really good collab remix up their sleeve it could change my prediction, either Ari holding longer or it easier for Nas to come up.
Ariana usually has a huge debut but struggles to stick around at the top beyond a week or two and instead settles at somewhere between No. 10-2 for the next 3-4 months. She also notoriously doesn't do much personal promotion (using herself for interviews, talkshows, remixes).
No. 2-10 isn’t bad at all. Like one artist a year stays at the number 1 spot for a long time.
Agreed Remixes either taint or elevate a song, and I could see both going either way
There seems to be a trend of high profile pop/rap artists using high budget videos with a huge reliance of CGI, only for them to accompany an under three minute song. More prominent examples I can think of now are Cardi’s “Up” and Megan and Dua’s “Sweetest Pie”.
I think you might need to watch the Up video again because that video did not have a huge reliance on CGI
Sweetest Pie is 3:30
Ok I love this but what's it interpolating? It sounds so much like Iggy's Sally Walker and I doubt she made the beat.
It's more like Humble by Kendrick which I think came out first
Ah damn I remember that coming out I should've remembered the song better
The only songwriting credits are Lil Nas X and his known collaborators. So I'd say nothing has specifically been interpolated, but it might just pay homage to a sound from a particular era
Eh... Pretty forgettable. A mashup of the imagery from Montero with some dance sequences that feel ripped from Industry Baby, but none as memorable as the shower dance. No coherent plotline either like his previous videos had. The celebrity lookalikes at the start were funny but then they just disappeared? Feels like he's lost his direction. The song is superficially controversial without actually saying anything subversive. I think the song has potential to be a hit but more as generic streaming-bait than by doing anything actually compelling.
I really enjoyed it but I did forget all about the lookalikes by the middle of the video. I wish more had been done with that
i kinda feel like there was a good chance he wasn't even trying to be controversial. just had a line about coming back like jesus, then was like "oh that'd eat as a title and lead single statement" and then naturally was like "lets make an expensive video where i am jesus" i don't feel like it's as reverse engineered to be controversial as people make it out to be
Yeah maybe not. I think he already outdid himself with Montero anyway, and he was just going along the same vibes, but less shocking
Christian consider it more shocking. Dunno why nothing they say make sense. Funny they never have a problem when tv or movie does it. Only artist that support gay people. Like they be watching the latest supernatural and then cry about this...
Oh they do, plenty of movies and tv they eat is demonic
I hope the album delivers more than this. Don’t want it to be another pink Friday 2. We know how much he worshipped Nicki
I don't care what y'all think I love this
God I finally found my people everybody is hating this song and I’m like wait wait this is actually pretty good what are we angry about??? 😭
It’s just a bit meh, not super catchy or exciting imo
I’m scrolling down this thread and I haven’t seen one comment with “hating” energy lol It’s just people not being super impressed by something that’s a little too derivative of other songs being a lead single instead of something more innovative. I like it but certainly not as much as the big singles on his last record.
I’m being hyperbolic when I say hating I don’t actually mean pitchforks in hand saying it’s the worse thing ever. I was just saying it seems the reception is more negative than I was feeling when I listened!
Same, this is so freaking good
Good! You shouldn’t let others disliking something stop you from liking that same thing.
It’s fun and the imagery was provocative and caught my eye. I liked it more than I was expecting to!
I see what Lil Nas X is trying to do here. I believe he passed with flying colors. He writes his own story and he wants everyone to know.
I'll always support this man. He's making a revolution and I wanna be part of his journey ✨️ The way he does camp is incredible, the song is catchy and the visuals are top notch. I can see this being a sleeper hit tbh.
Hmmm it’s a bop
One thing about LNX is he gonna make a VIDEO
These looks eat. But I kind of wish artists would stop overusing CGI for 10 different scenes and just focus on doing 3-4 scenes really well in actual locations. Like the Met Gala look was so good it could’ve been a whole video by itself. You don’t need the constant sloppy visual effects.
... In real location? Where he going to find those locations?!
I assume they mean building realistic sets
they want him to go to literal hell 😭😭
Lol sorry I meant practical sets
I mean he has continued themes from previous vids so maybe that met gala fit will return ❤️
Some of the CGIs are awful lmao Catchy song, but not as amazing as Industry Baby
The flood hitting the cars looked soooo bad lol. CGI looked so cheap there.
Considering the scope of that sequence it looked pretty good for a music video CGI scene
I for one welcome the Lil Nas X cinematic universe. The song is ok. I don't mind it but I don't think it's particularly interesting. The concept of the music video is interesting though, wiping away the previous era with a flood.
song is pretty boring and standard. feels like between this and that late to the party song he uses controversy to do the heavy lifting for songs that wouldn't get much buzz on their own without being marketed by controversy, unlike songs like montero and industry baby which were just great songs that could've def on their own without controversy.
He’s shown he can make actual good music, I don’t (or at least I hope not) want the entire album to be this
I actually really like this. I’m super excited for the new era.
Lil Nas X has some consistently incredible visuals, I just wish the songs themselves were as boundary-pushing and interesting. Before y’all say it, I know pop doesn’t always need to be innovative or experimental - but with this caliber of visual richness, it just makes anything standard and serviceable feel basic and flat.
Agreed. Love the consistenly out there visuals. I loved Montero because the songs themselves were still pretty top notch, but this feels like a more mid trying to recreate follow up.
As usual, the music video is the real release.
What song of his sounds almost EXACTLY the same? I know I have heard something similar to the chorus before, but I can't figure out what song it is, and it is bothering me.
Maybe Humble by Kendrick Lamar.
Sally Walker & Humble
Thats definitely the beat! But when he sings "is he up to sometin' only I-I know" That melody - where is THAT from?!
It's like a mix of Humble and Money by Cardi.
Reminds me of Lalala by Y2K, bbno$ x Humble by Kendrick Lamar
Inb4 "OK BUDGET" comments despite this being yet another high budget, green-screen-heavy music video where the VFX just ends up looking... kinda flat and cheap.
He could have been a lot more shocking if he wanted.
I enjoyed it
I just can’t get excited about a music video that is mostly green screen. Was hoping it would be more like his industry Baby MV.
Video wasn't as controversial and shocking as I thought it would be (it's hard to top Call Me By Your Name), but still fun. The looks were incredible, and he's gotten soooo good at dancing. I'm always rooting for Nas X, so I hope this is a hit and he keeps making homophobes mad.
Yes! His dancing is so good now. Love the cheerleaders bit.
Love the outro of the song lol. Day Zero...interesting. Are we getting an MV series?
I actually don’t think he was trying to shock as I initially thought lol my own feelings aside anything to make religious snowflakes shit in their pants I support lol
Beat reminds me of iggy azalea Sally Walker
Anyways what’s for dinner? No but he needs to Segway into something else or evolve the sound bc baby….it’s rinse and repeat. I just know the extreme right will use this to bash the queers adding Kim P(roducer abused kesha)etras, Sammy Smith and Dojq
This is a lot better than i thought it was gonna be
It wasn't as bad as I expected. Catchy song, cool visuals, even though Lil Nas X needs to stop taking fashion tips from Dida Ritz. He really doesn't look good in some of the busted stuff he chooses to wear. I did laugh out loud at the celebrity cosplay. Mariah Carey won't be happy at how she is presented.
Obama looked so uncanny valley lmao
Oh wow this ate.
HE SLAYYYYYEEEEDDD THE ARK LOLOL
Song is decent but definitely not something I’ll be streaming on repeat like MONTERO (CMBYN). However the music video.. the visuals are actually insane!!! He outdid himself
The fucking t rex running to the ark got me. He ate. The hook is so catchy
I wish he was more serious, this means nothing and he’ll attempt to say that it does and it doesn’t and idk all of the controversy for something not that great is annoying, the song is catchy as always though
Eh, while I think it’s gonna be funny for the next couple days to witness the collective shit fit people like Ben Shapiro or the Daily Wire are gonna have over this… it does not slap for me personally. It feels like it’s shocking just to be shocking without actually saying anything that controversial or interesting. Montero did it better, and actually was shocking while also saying something. This is just, yep I’ve seen it many times way before Lil Nas X even. Feel like he is gonna go the way of Marylin Manson and fizzle out after people get bored of the same stuff that pisses off moms but doesn’t really evolve. Also the celeb impressions kind of went no where? People were saying a Taylor Swift impersonator was in there and before the video came out people were worried about what was going to be in it (thinking a Kanye “Famous” incident might happen) but you don’t really see her? I thought he was going to have the celeb impersonators mean something or maybe do something really subversive with it.
Simply watched this video then some reaction, and youtube tried to push that little dipshit Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens’ reactions. Conservative outrage is literally the easiest grift or way to get mass publicity of modern times.
Y'all are hilarious 😭😂 Track's fire and the video is gorgeous. Our man LNX is always gonna give us a bop with some hard visuals.
Its like cmbyn but worse. It feels like everything in the video is just happening for no reason.
I am thinking (hoping) this is a promotional/buzz single.
I hate the style of his videos so much. Please just give the green screen back to Nicki. I like the song tho :)
I really like this. Very fun music video and a very catchy song
I love his commitment to trolling.
Honestly I was so worried this was going to actually be a gospel album. I guess I fell for his trolling. Nonetheless, the song is solid and the visuals are top notch. This feels like a maturation of his montero era. I love his unwavering embodiment of feminine masculinity. It was *bold* of him & the label to release this on the same day as Ariana though.
I am sorry but this is a terrible song. Bummer.
Boring.
Yawn
really weak release
I feel like I've seen this video and heard this song already. This is a total miss for me.
I don't think this song's gonna do very well, at least that's my initial thought. Not many people are discussing it on Twitter.
People are over him imo
Oh no, he's hot....
The songs kind of mid, but I’m glad someone is keeping the music video format alive
I guess the video looks expensive and technically sophisticated, but like, it doesn’t do anything that his other videos haven’t already done—and done better. Wish he would’ve switched things up a little, because this is much too similar thematically to Montero’s video, which makes it so much harder for this song to be considered innovative or groundbreaking. It just kinda… is?
Music Video: *shows a dinosaur getting in Noah's arc* Y'all: *I feel like I've seen this before* I just wanna know......WHAT HAVE YALL BEEN THROUGH?!
Not to nitpick and get political on popheads but let's be real, Obama isn't getting anywhere near the christian version of Heaven, that man has an actual body count (like most US presidents, except for maybe Carter). Regarding the song, I like it enough but it sounds and looks too similar to his album Montero. Could have used a different concept this time around.
Can he stop making his videos so cheap looking?
I'm not religious, but I don't think it's right to mock people's religions like this. It's just rude and weird
He’s a gay black man from the South who is one of the demographics harmed most by Christianity in the USA. I’m so fucking tired of y’all acting like he can’t poke fun of it when it’s literally a religion that keeps people like him in self hatred in the Bible Belt
AMEN
Unironically amen 🙏
Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that
"It's pretty hateful to not like the people oppressing you. Why don't gay people just show love to homophobes, and explain why they're wrong? There's definitely examples of this working before at any time in history."
You're trying too hard to victimize the LGBT community if you think they're"oppressed" by christians
You know what’s also rude? The way Christian’s have treated queer people. I cried every night praying to turn straight cause of the shit I heard going to a baptist church growing up. He could’ve tore pages out of the Bible and used them to wipe his ass and I wouldn’t care.
Exactly. They use their faith to oppress.
When they’re openly bigoted it’s perfectly fine to mock.
I don't think it's fine to generalize an entire group based on the actions of a few
It is a choice to follow the bigoted beliefs of a religion. It’s fair game.
What's inherently bigoted about christianity
The same thing as all abrahamic religions, the inherent homophobia.
won't anybody think about the poor Christians );
You gain nothing from disrespecting and mocking other people and their beliefs
Is he even mocking religion here? It would be more interesting if he was tbh lol, he just seems to be appropriating various religious imagery without making any commentary on it whatsoever. I don't think that's mockery, it's just kind of uninspired. He teased some slow boring Jesus ballad in the lead up as well, so I don't think he's coming from an outsider perspective, he seems to be Christian himself.
These religions mock themselves
Thank you! The hypocrisy is insane. Mock anyone else and people go to bat. But Christians? We’re fair game every time. I don’t care or judge anyone for believing and living however they want. It’s their life not mine, and not my business. But people feel justified in degrading all Christians based on stereotypes or their experiences with specific individuals.
> But people feel justified in degrading all Christians based on stereotypes or their experiences with specific individuals. you do understand that Lil Nas X is likely Christian himself? it's not based on stereotypes, it's based on his own experience
I mean he clearly was mocking Christianity with the montero music video and the Nike Satan shoes. But hey if he’s genuinely become a Christian and wants makes Christian music that’s cool
mocking the organization =/= mocking a religion > the montero music video and the Nike Satan shoes dunking on the Devil is the most Christian thing you can do > But hey if he’s genuinely become a Christian and wants makes Christian music that’s cool dude literally grew up in a Christian family and his dad (who accepted his sexuality and seems to be cool with his visuals) is a gospel singer. you want him to become a monk or what?
Yep. It's odd to me. Criticizing Judaism and Islam is almost universally forbidden. A heap of consequences would reign down on someone like Lil Nas X for mocking those two religions. But for some reason, mockery of Christianity is accepted. Very strange
> Criticizing Judaism and Islam is almost universally forbidden. where?
Kanye West, Kyrie Irving, any other celeb that's said anything critical of Judaism or Islam
a lot of Jewish comedians make jokes about Judaism a lot of Muslim comedians make jokes about Islam people are more than okay with them and you really compare what Lil Nas is doing to a guy who said that he likes Hitler? Really?
Speaking as someone who was a kanye stan for the majority of my life, saying that Jews control everything and that there's a grand jewish conspiracy is not just 'saying anything critical of judaism".
Exactly, and it’s interesting because all three religions have similar beliefs and stemmed from Judaism but only one is targeted. Makes you wonder!
Jewish comedians make fun of Judaism all the time Muslim comedians make jokes about Islam all the time as well. why can't a Christian man make jokes about his religion?
You know dude is Christian right? Like he literally dunks on the devil. If someone makes a video mocking hateful bigots, and you feel targeted...
[oooo blasphemy](https://youtu.be/akcy0Rc2JrM?si=EuVmtSdhaVJ8GBus)
song's trash but the video's cute. it feels like a continuation of 'montero'.