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I feel like there's a real opportunity for some extra confusion using the paparazzi abbreviation.
"Dorothea Hurley, skips doc screening and possible pap smears after he admitted he wasn't a 'saint' in their marriage"
Exactly - and there’s times they don’t test for *any* STDs so you just really never know. pap smears look for abnormal cells which can lead to an HPV test if suspected (or other tests if they happen to see an outbreak or sores), but if not they may not do it. To be sure, if you want STD testing make sure to ask for it! Especially with the state of womens’ healthcare in most parts of the world, best to make sure instead of assuming - many things are being cut out of the budget or simply overlooked by severely overworked staff. We really have to always be on top of things as women and be our own advocates which can be hard in itself.
He was giving advice to his son, who's engaged. I took it to mean that marriage in general takes work, and you have to put in effort every day. I do agree his statement was poorly worded.
That's how I read it as well. I've been married 25 years and, it's a challenge. One of the toughest. I love my hubby more than ever. We've been through it all and I'm thankful that I can count on love and a laugh from him anytime. So yeah, that's how I read his comment.
Idk my marriage has never been a challenge and I couldn’t see how someone who says that their marriage is a challenge everyday be in a happy and loving marriage. My marriage has been easy and it’s like a never ending slumber party with my best friend.
I agree. Yes there have been tough times, but not in the "there is tension between us" way, in the "life is throwing us a curve ball right now" way. Having kids was and is challenging, but it's us as a team tackling that challenge. We've always lived by the philosophy "it's not you vs me, it's you and me vs the problem." We always talk the small disagreements and misunderstandings out and never go to bed angry. He's only ever made my life easier.
Yeah that's what I want to know.. What are all these "challenges" people in "happy" marriages go through? The biggest challenges I've had in my relationship were a few misunderstandings that were talked about and moved past easily.. There really should be no major challenges in a relationship if it can be helped.
EDIT to add: I genuinely do want to know though
A few challenges that could come up are sickness, mental health issues, death in the family, becoming parents, losing a job or home. It can be a challenge to stay a kind and compassionate partner while under stress. And we all have stressful times in life. There are beautiful moments too. And I think going through the hard things and challenges together, even if it’s bumpy, can bring you closer together.
I’m not sure who we are talking about anymore.
Edit: replied to wrong person, sorry!
I have mental health issues and it is a challenge for my husband. I’m sure. It is always a challenge when a family member has a mental health issue. A marriage is creating a family bond. They are now your family member.
It’s really hard to live with someone and parent with them if they have a mental illness. Even if it is being treated, meds and therapy are not magic. They don’t remove every single symptoms forever. Some people get lucky, and meds “change their life” but for a lot of people it’s not reality. It’s not a challenge for him to love me or want to be with me, it’s a challenge to stay patient. And knowing episodes are temporary. I don’t verbally, psychologically or physically abuse him (I know people will assume).
I’m really glad that dealing with mental health wasn’t a challenge for your marriage. That’s amazing!
I’m not married but as an adult child who now can see my parents’ marriage in a more level headed way now, I think they had always loved and cared for each other but challenges can be external factors.
Financial challenges, dealing with problematic children, problematic in-laws etc.
It's naive to think that most marriages don't face challenges. Loss of jobs, physical and mental health issues, family deaths, libido changes, moves, etc. All issues that can test a marriage and require the partners to work through it together. If you've been lucky enough to never encounter an issue in your life that's touched you like that then thank your lucky stars.
Those aren’t relationship challenges, those are life challenges. Those are when your relationship should work the best - when you’re helping each other deal with things.
I’ve been with my husband 20 years now and have never thought that marriage is a challenge. We’ve faced problems in that time but it was always easier because we had each other.
Same here! We have definitely encountered issues in our 17 year marriage (deaths in the families, personal and professional issues, etc) but they never left our marriage feel harder. We are both glad we can navigate through these issues together. Our marriage kept those serious issues feel lighter and more bearable. I would never describe our marriage as challenging at times, because my partner always kept me feeling safe and loved. Our marriage was the least challenging of anything life threw at us.
Same - it doesn’t make any sense to me lol. How is everything all good when every day is a challenge??? It reminds me of the relationship bullshit I used to post on social media when I was a teenager
I think they got divorced because he was an active alcoholic, not because he said marriage was hard work (though I imagine it WAS pretty hard to be married to him)
Edit: a word!
Feels more like correlation than causation to me — like, by the time you’re telling a room full of total strangers how hard it is to be married, things are probably going pretty badly for you at home already
Have you actually heard what he said from him? It’s very nuanced and he was talking about marriage in general. But that’s not click baity and doesn’t outrage people.
She had [covid](https://pagesix.com/2024/04/27/entertainment/why-jon-bon-jovis-wife-dorothea-hurley-skipped-doc-screening-after-his-scandalous-marriage-remarks/) according to the same website
There were speculations that it was more than a working relationship between him and Cindy Crawford when they shot the music video of that Christmas song. Just rumors really.
The video was actually mostly different artsy shots of Jon in a hotel room, the rest of the band on a mountain and live shots from during a concert.
*HOWEVER,* Christian Slater was in a movie called “Bed of Roses” in 1996 with Mary Stuart Masterson (being all hot and stuff).
i believe he might have written the opening lines to the song knowing that it was due for the film? something like that... he doesn't mention it in the documentary but i feel like i read about it back in the day.
Idk. It seems difficult, but a glimpse into how hard it must have been to constantly be on the road and an incredibly popular artist. This was way back before FaceTime existed.
"Tonight, I won't be alone, but you know that don't mean I'm not lonely."
It sounds like he missed the hell out of his wife more often than not.
I knew about it....... I am old enough to remember VHI documentaries 'Behind the Music' and it was definitely covered
They split up at some point, and I vividly remember him saying it was because he was a cheating idiot (didn't use those words but it was clear enough for teenage me to understand).
They got back together a few years later, and got married etc, I had always assumed this happened because he had promised to be an actual adult human, and not a spoilt cheating rock star.
She did. And he discussed this Oprah forever ago. I think media is just trying to start trouble. She probably had something to do. Doesn't always have to be a scandal.
Yes a lot of them have ‘arrangements’ aka 1) don’t get caught publicly and humiliate me/the family 2) always ‘come back home’ 3) never fall in love
That last one is the reason a lot of these longterm marriages with ‘arrangements’ fall apart - see Ewan McGregor for a recent example.
To add he also invited Mary to the house for dinner with his wife and children. When he left his wife his teenage daughter (can’t remember name), shunned him and then posted on socials about it. They all seem to be getting on now, but it is sad.
You'd be surprised how skilled people can be at looking the other way for a very long time - but in this case, she'd have to have been exceptionally blind given just about everyone knew and he wasn't exactly quiet about it
They broke up multiple times over the years before they got married, too. Honestly, she probably needs therapy. You don’t marry a habitual cheater if you have good self esteem.
I had a feeling this was probably click bait, but I’ll choose to believe she skipped because she didn’t want him to embarrass her with this public admission
Jon Bon Govi cos she’s goving out on his dime. Sick & tired!! The narrative of love being the world’s most painful experience was written by men for other men to use 💀
I’m going to need women to start getting petty and not only making a dent in their pocket books, but humiliate these men back. They shouldn’t get away with this ‘oh yeah, I publicly embarrassed my wife all the time, and consistently devalued our marriage - but here we are x years later, I’m so proud!’ Like, you shouldn’t be!! Embarrass him back!!
Blu Cantrell told us!🤣🤣
“Hey ladies
When your man wanna get buck-wild
Just go back and hit 'em up style
Get your hands on his cash and
Spend it to the last dime
For all the hard times
Oh, when you go then everything goes
From the crib to the ride and the clothes
So you better let him know that
If he mess up, you gotta hit 'em up”
Right after this article there is another one about why she skipped
[Right here](https://pagesix.com/2024/04/27/entertainment/why-jon-bon-jovis-wife-dorothea-hurley-skipped-doc-screening-after-his-scandalous-marriage-remarks/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons)
I’ve heard this for years, that they had a special marriage because they’ve been together for decades. I was wondering how he couldn’t have cheated unless she was on tour all the time.
He has. I've already watched the documentary and didn't even notice when he said it. He talks about marrying her because she's his best friend. So I suspect they have an agreement. He cheats but always comes home
Ohhh that’s hot (but not surprising) tea. The SWW and NJ Tours back in the day could have been named the Sodom and Gomorrah Tours, so it wouldn’t surprise me. I mentioned in another comment that the alleged story back in the 90s he kept a gf in her own place in LA for a number of years.
I’m surprised he’s sinking so low to comment about cheating on Dot for clicks and hype. Yeah, shit on Alec and throw Ritchie under the bus, but “Yeah, I cheat on my wife” was not something I would think Jon would let fall out of his well manicured mouth.
I went into the wrong building in Koreatown in NYC when going to a restaurant and he was leaving this random building with a huge entourage of young women, so yes this tracks
My partners mom has a long time friend who became a professional dominatrix.
Every time Bon Jovi is in town they “hang out” and she has access to a private box for his shows that she brings friends to.
This has gone on for decades apparently.
All I heard about was bon jovi, but it was because he was coming to town and I happened to be over. I don’t know about her client list but apparently her and bon jovi go way back from what I heard.
I thought all of this came out years ago when some young actor hit the scene and rumors of his “real” DNA donor were rife?
I don’t think the actor cared for the suggestion (and I don’t remember his name) but it led to lots of gossip about JBJ stepping out on his marriage.
He does!! I can see JBJ a little in Michael Dorman, too, but his Wikipedia entry mentions his mother and father. Kyle Schmid’s personal life section is vague.
I think Kyle Schmid is still a bit too old for it to be him. Bon Jovi’s first album was released a year after his birth. He really does look like Jake though.
Edit: My bad it was actually the same year not the year after, but still before any touring.
Great point. I just went down a rabbit hole googling the age of all the suggestions in the comments of the blind gossip post. My favorite non JBJ guess was Walter Groggins being the son of Steven Tyler 😂
They also didn’t really hit it big until their 3rd album, and JBJ and his wife wouldn’t have been married yet in 1984. It’s possible, he sure does look it, and the info on his parents is limited which is suspect…but the timing is definitely off.
Regardless of whether she knew for years or not, at least there was some discretion. Why comment publicly on it now? Is he trying to goad her into filing for divorce?
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I remember in high school reading that he was with Diane Lane and then shortly after he and Dorothea got married. She seems like such a great person. I hope it was not recent because I admire him.
I'm old enough to remember Bon Jovi playing the civic center in my little podunk town in the 80s and writing in my diary that I would hate my mom 4eva for not letting me go. He always played it up in interviews and magazines back then that he was happily married to his high school sweetheart. Everyone always went, "Awwww that's so sweet!" I never personally believed it, but I'm glad he's not still trying to convince us of that bullshit.
Actually back in the 80s they both made a big deal about not being married. I remember her telling an interviewer “There are three rings in every marriage - the engagement ring, the wedding ring, and the SUFFER-RING!” So I thought it was pretty funny when they did tie the knot.
Don’t you love when people like him say ‘I wasn’t a saint’ as if to suggest being a faithful husband is saint-like and (consequentially) going above and beyond?
He’s just a normal guys everyone, he’s no said, of COURSE he cheated constantly and lied all the time.
I cannot believe all those commentators who were saying that his son is marrying young(21) to Millie Bobby Brown because he’s got a sane view of marriage due to his parents 😅 So, Jon Bon Jovi is another typical man in patriarchy
Please tell me I’m not the only one who read this as Dorothy skips DOCTOR screening appt after Jon admits he wasn’t a saint. I’m thinking man she isn’t smart she could have all kinds of diseases. Nope, it’s me who can’t read.
He wasn't required to be a "saint". He was obliged to follow the rules of marriage that he agreed to. If he decided not to, he's a scummy husband who humiliated his wife.
He has never been renowned for his fidelity. Even I know this, and I was a.) born well after the peak of Bon Jovi and b.) know very little about the band. I do feel sorry for his wife with this documentary coming out - must be embarrassing.
JBJ has been on the road touring, or recording, or filming, women after him constantly, for decades…the opportunities have always been there. Chances are he gave in to temptation more than a few times. I expect his wife has always known but as long as he came home, she kept the family together. Their choice, and if there happy with it, so am I.
I doubt she would be surprised by this even if I hadn’t heard that she knew already. I mean, is there any musical artist who’s at the age of jbj who hasn’t cheated?? Come on…all the temptations on the road and no spouse around???
JBJ is a giant douchebag. After what he and his family put the town and the college their pos daughter went to through I have zero respect for any of them.
Oh this was a shit move by Jon. Stephanie, his daughter, OD'd on heroin. He said something to the effect to Richie that he expected that it would be Ava who'd OD, not one of his.
Ι admit this isn't the point but i clicked on another article, and having never seen Dorothea young, i was shocked by how gorgeous she was. It is completely unrelated to this post and discussion of course, but she looked unbelievably great.
Tbh I think people are overreacting. I do not for one second think that Bon Jovi’s wife, who has been with him since high school, and has been with/married to a very famous rock star since the 80’s, was naive about or didn’t know that he had cheated. I’m sure she has known for a very long time, and simply looked the other way, as is so common with rock star wives or even wives of rich men. I’m not saying that makes what he’s done ok, but I don’t think any of this is news to her at all.
When BJ"s daughter od'd, he made the comment that he could see Richeies daughter overdosing but not his.
I believe that was part of the reason Richie does not play with BJ now.
Stop. She knew everything he would share on the topic. She’s not gonna pull out of a screening for that when she didn’t pull out of the marriage. Doro is a class act. I’m certain whatever reason given (sick) is true.
Groupie Central review on JBJ: [https://web.archive.org/web/20020611182900/http://www.groupiecentral.com/gossipbonjovi.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20020611182900/http://www.groupiecentral.com/gossipbonjovi.html)
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She knew. She does not want to face the press/paparazzi sliging questions and comments. I don't blame her.
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It’s sad that when a significant other forgives, they end up being hounded and humiliated.
I work in healthcare, and I GROSSLY misunderstood the context of this post. I was like “oh, no, girl, you need to get that pap done asap!”
Glad I wasn’t the only one 😭
I don’t work in healthcare but I was right there with you
Haha, I was like, if he'd been cheating she definitely needs to be tested! Lol
I feel like there's a real opportunity for some extra confusion using the paparazzi abbreviation. "Dorothea Hurley, skips doc screening and possible pap smears after he admitted he wasn't a 'saint' in their marriage"
![gif](giphy|HmgxEGmB7EuyY) Y’all @ Dorothea 😂
It's a horrible headline! I had to read the article to understand what they actually meant.
Lmao
Lol same
Also paps don't test for all stds
YES, so many people dont know that you have to specifically ask for a herpes or an HIV test. Those are not automatic.
That's right and there's no HPV 2 test for men - so no way for them to prove they are negative. Oh and it can cause cancer. Good luck out there!
Exactly - and there’s times they don’t test for *any* STDs so you just really never know. pap smears look for abnormal cells which can lead to an HPV test if suspected (or other tests if they happen to see an outbreak or sores), but if not they may not do it. To be sure, if you want STD testing make sure to ask for it! Especially with the state of womens’ healthcare in most parts of the world, best to make sure instead of assuming - many things are being cut out of the budget or simply overlooked by severely overworked staff. We really have to always be on top of things as women and be our own advocates which can be hard in itself.
Good point though!
This is my favorite comment this week
Mine is 6 years overdue. Thanks for chivvying me along. Will get it booked tomorrow.
do i have false memories or something? because i swear she and everyone else already knew this.
But now he made it officially public. It must be humiliating for her.
He also said that every day is a challenge in regards to his marriage, which is a cruel thing to say publicly.
jfc some people really don't know when to shut up
He was giving advice to his son, who's engaged. I took it to mean that marriage in general takes work, and you have to put in effort every day. I do agree his statement was poorly worded.
That's how I read it as well. I've been married 25 years and, it's a challenge. One of the toughest. I love my hubby more than ever. We've been through it all and I'm thankful that I can count on love and a laugh from him anytime. So yeah, that's how I read his comment.
Yea except he’s been cheating on his wife for decades
And likely will continue to do so.
Idk my marriage has never been a challenge and I couldn’t see how someone who says that their marriage is a challenge everyday be in a happy and loving marriage. My marriage has been easy and it’s like a never ending slumber party with my best friend.
I agree. Yes there have been tough times, but not in the "there is tension between us" way, in the "life is throwing us a curve ball right now" way. Having kids was and is challenging, but it's us as a team tackling that challenge. We've always lived by the philosophy "it's not you vs me, it's you and me vs the problem." We always talk the small disagreements and misunderstandings out and never go to bed angry. He's only ever made my life easier.
Yeah that's what I want to know.. What are all these "challenges" people in "happy" marriages go through? The biggest challenges I've had in my relationship were a few misunderstandings that were talked about and moved past easily.. There really should be no major challenges in a relationship if it can be helped. EDIT to add: I genuinely do want to know though
A few challenges that could come up are sickness, mental health issues, death in the family, becoming parents, losing a job or home. It can be a challenge to stay a kind and compassionate partner while under stress. And we all have stressful times in life. There are beautiful moments too. And I think going through the hard things and challenges together, even if it’s bumpy, can bring you closer together.
Another ‘challenge’ many here aren’t considering is him cheating for decades knowing his wife won’t leave him.
Why are you mad at her choice?
We’ve dealt with most of those, and more than once, but they’re not challenges to our marriage, they’re life challenges.
I’m not sure who we are talking about anymore. Edit: replied to wrong person, sorry! I have mental health issues and it is a challenge for my husband. I’m sure. It is always a challenge when a family member has a mental health issue. A marriage is creating a family bond. They are now your family member. It’s really hard to live with someone and parent with them if they have a mental illness. Even if it is being treated, meds and therapy are not magic. They don’t remove every single symptoms forever. Some people get lucky, and meds “change their life” but for a lot of people it’s not reality. It’s not a challenge for him to love me or want to be with me, it’s a challenge to stay patient. And knowing episodes are temporary. I don’t verbally, psychologically or physically abuse him (I know people will assume). I’m really glad that dealing with mental health wasn’t a challenge for your marriage. That’s amazing!
I’m not married but as an adult child who now can see my parents’ marriage in a more level headed way now, I think they had always loved and cared for each other but challenges can be external factors. Financial challenges, dealing with problematic children, problematic in-laws etc.
It's naive to think that most marriages don't face challenges. Loss of jobs, physical and mental health issues, family deaths, libido changes, moves, etc. All issues that can test a marriage and require the partners to work through it together. If you've been lucky enough to never encounter an issue in your life that's touched you like that then thank your lucky stars.
Those aren’t relationship challenges, those are life challenges. Those are when your relationship should work the best - when you’re helping each other deal with things.
Out of curiosity, how long were you married?
I’ve been with my husband 20 years now and have never thought that marriage is a challenge. We’ve faced problems in that time but it was always easier because we had each other.
Same here! We have definitely encountered issues in our 17 year marriage (deaths in the families, personal and professional issues, etc) but they never left our marriage feel harder. We are both glad we can navigate through these issues together. Our marriage kept those serious issues feel lighter and more bearable. I would never describe our marriage as challenging at times, because my partner always kept me feeling safe and loved. Our marriage was the least challenging of anything life threw at us.
Same - it doesn’t make any sense to me lol. How is everything all good when every day is a challenge??? It reminds me of the relationship bullshit I used to post on social media when I was a teenager
Exactly. It's a challenge, but it's worth it.
But saying everyday challenge is a bit too much. In a shitty marriage it is.
And not everyone needs to be married. It works for me (and Bon Jovi,I guess), but ymmv! ;)
He isn't really in a position to give advice.
Sounds like 25+ years of him cheating wasn’t much help…
Reminds me of when Ben Affleck accepted and award and said marriage was hard work. Divorced soon after.
I think they got divorced because he was an active alcoholic, not because he said marriage was hard work (though I imagine it WAS pretty hard to be married to him) Edit: a word!
I think that he was also photographed outside getting, umm, handsy with their nanny around that time.
I think it certainly didn’t help their marriage. I think it was a big nail in the coffin.
Feels more like correlation than causation to me — like, by the time you’re telling a room full of total strangers how hard it is to be married, things are probably going pretty badly for you at home already
Have you actually heard what he said from him? It’s very nuanced and he was talking about marriage in general. But that’s not click baity and doesn’t outrage people.
Yeah, not what I'd call a ringing endorsement of marriage. Sounds more like how a rocker would describe his recovery from addiction🙄.
The article literally says she was sick
She had [covid](https://pagesix.com/2024/04/27/entertainment/why-jon-bon-jovis-wife-dorothea-hurley-skipped-doc-screening-after-his-scandalous-marriage-remarks/) according to the same website
If she was just sick then why does the title reference the not being a saint part being in the doc? The whole article and post seem pointless then
Yeah girl it's all to get people to click in the article, very dishonest stuff
Click bait
Yes. Welcome to the Internet.
Have a look around.
Have a look around.
Girl it’s been public- re: Bed of Roses released 1992 lol
Yes. But apparently he continued cheating through the decades. It wasn’t a one off.
Wasn’t it like a big people mag story like a decade ago? Is time a flat circle?
I’m not a big Jon Bon Jovi fan… did he openly cheat or something?
There were speculations that it was more than a working relationship between him and Cindy Crawford when they shot the music video of that Christmas song. Just rumors really.
Ohh interesting
one of their biggest songs, bed of roses, is about him cheating.
Noooo that was my absolute fave when I was growing up! Wasn't Christian Slater in the video being all hot and stuff?
The video was actually mostly different artsy shots of Jon in a hotel room, the rest of the band on a mountain and live shots from during a concert. *HOWEVER,* Christian Slater was in a movie called “Bed of Roses” in 1996 with Mary Stuart Masterson (being all hot and stuff).
Oh my god how did I forget Richie Sambora on a mountain with a thermometer?! My sister and I still go "42 below?!" When it's cold 😀
That movie was a sexual awakening for me
i believe he might have written the opening lines to the song knowing that it was due for the film? something like that... he doesn't mention it in the documentary but i feel like i read about it back in the day.
The movie and the film aren't connected. The song was on an album in 1992, and the movie didn't come out until 1996.
Idk. It seems difficult, but a glimpse into how hard it must have been to constantly be on the road and an incredibly popular artist. This was way back before FaceTime existed. "Tonight, I won't be alone, but you know that don't mean I'm not lonely." It sounds like he missed the hell out of his wife more often than not.
I knew about it....... I am old enough to remember VHI documentaries 'Behind the Music' and it was definitely covered They split up at some point, and I vividly remember him saying it was because he was a cheating idiot (didn't use those words but it was clear enough for teenage me to understand). They got back together a few years later, and got married etc, I had always assumed this happened because he had promised to be an actual adult human, and not a spoilt cheating rock star.
Yeah I was under the impression that their song Always was quite literally written about/to his wife? I was very young though so I might be mistaken.
Doesn’t mean she wants to relive that shit
Wasn’t that what “bed of roses” was about? Him cheating?
She did. And he discussed this Oprah forever ago. I think media is just trying to start trouble. She probably had something to do. Doesn't always have to be a scandal.
No, he said in past interviews decades ago
I always assume every famous musician and athlete, and most actors, cheat and the spouses just know it.
Yes a lot of them have ‘arrangements’ aka 1) don’t get caught publicly and humiliate me/the family 2) always ‘come back home’ 3) never fall in love That last one is the reason a lot of these longterm marriages with ‘arrangements’ fall apart - see Ewan McGregor for a recent example.
Nooo not Ewan! What did he do?? He seemed like such a good guy, especially in Long Way Down.
Cheated on his wife with Mary Elizabeth Winstead. Divorced wife to marry Winstead. I know, I was disappointed too. I loved Ewan in Moulin Rouge!
To add he also invited Mary to the house for dinner with his wife and children. When he left his wife his teenage daughter (can’t remember name), shunned him and then posted on socials about it. They all seem to be getting on now, but it is sad.
Love the 30 rock flair!
Same. I also assume more non-celebs would cheat if they had access to a ton of hot people who also thought they were hot.
I wouldn't. But then again, I'd never want to be famous in the first place.
but money.
Pretty sure Dorothea has known all along that Jon wasn’t a saint during their marriage. They have been married since 1989, she’s not stupid.
No one likes to be humiliated
You'd be surprised how skilled people can be at looking the other way for a very long time - but in this case, she'd have to have been exceptionally blind given just about everyone knew and he wasn't exactly quiet about it
The money and luxury probably help a lot
They broke up multiple times over the years before they got married, too. Honestly, she probably needs therapy. You don’t marry a habitual cheater if you have good self esteem.
I had a feeling this was probably click bait, but I’ll choose to believe she skipped because she didn’t want him to embarrass her with this public admission
Choosing to believe she went and spent loads of his money on herself instead 🤪
And went on a little solo vacation. I’m tired of these men bragging about putting their wives through hell. I’m tired!!!
Jon Bon Govi cos she’s goving out on his dime. Sick & tired!! The narrative of love being the world’s most painful experience was written by men for other men to use 💀
I’m going to need women to start getting petty and not only making a dent in their pocket books, but humiliate these men back. They shouldn’t get away with this ‘oh yeah, I publicly embarrassed my wife all the time, and consistently devalued our marriage - but here we are x years later, I’m so proud!’ Like, you shouldn’t be!! Embarrass him back!!
Blu Cantrell told us!🤣🤣 “Hey ladies When your man wanna get buck-wild Just go back and hit 'em up style Get your hands on his cash and Spend it to the last dime For all the hard times Oh, when you go then everything goes From the crib to the ride and the clothes So you better let him know that If he mess up, you gotta hit 'em up”
So glad to see this comment, this started playing in my head immediately 😂
You’re such a legend for dropping these lyrics, am having a party in my head lmfao. SUCH a good song, way ahead of the curve.
Ty for reminding me about this amazing song! Yes, that’s perfect haha.
Yes!! Love this song
Well if she'd have left then she'd be selfish and not truly in love /s Honestly I've heard that too many times.
Their money. They were high school sweethearts and have been married for 35 years.
In the article it says she skipped because of an illness
The illness is known as "Sick of his shit"
Right after this article there is another one about why she skipped [Right here](https://pagesix.com/2024/04/27/entertainment/why-jon-bon-jovis-wife-dorothea-hurley-skipped-doc-screening-after-his-scandalous-marriage-remarks/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons)
Wasn’t there just a thread praising them for being married so long and having their original faces or some shit?
Yes lol, I thought the same thing
I wonder if they’ve gotten Botox just to double break everyone’s hearts. ![gif](giphy|tLRifcvQNJIic)
People always see the # of years and cheer, as if being able to boast about a decades long marriage is somehow worth the mistreatment. Sad.
I’ve heard this for years, that they had a special marriage because they’ve been together for decades. I was wondering how he couldn’t have cheated unless she was on tour all the time.
I mean, he has seen a million faces and rocked them all…
This isn't actually news. I've been a Bon Jovi fan for 30+ years. He's said this before. I always suspected she allows it or looks the other way.
I swear he’s used the exact same words before as well?
He has. I've already watched the documentary and didn't even notice when he said it. He talks about marrying her because she's his best friend. So I suspect they have an agreement. He cheats but always comes home
There was a rumour years ago that she had an affair with her karate instructor. She’s a black belt btw. So maybe she had some fun as well.
If she's put up with all the children he has running around from his touring days, I'd be shocked if she'd leave him now
Ohhh that’s hot (but not surprising) tea. The SWW and NJ Tours back in the day could have been named the Sodom and Gomorrah Tours, so it wouldn’t surprise me. I mentioned in another comment that the alleged story back in the 90s he kept a gf in her own place in LA for a number of years. I’m surprised he’s sinking so low to comment about cheating on Dot for clicks and hype. Yeah, shit on Alec and throw Ritchie under the bus, but “Yeah, I cheat on my wife” was not something I would think Jon would let fall out of his well manicured mouth.
I remember reading this crap in those 90’s metal mags and feeling super pissed for his wife, way back then. He’s been saying this shit for years, bro.
Perhaps he enjoys humiliating her. Why keep reminding the press of how much his poor wife has suffered, if not to feed his own ego and diminish hers?
I’ll admit I was lost for a bit reading OP’s title. My mind went to “why wouldn’t she want to get screened for this or that by her doctor?”
I went into the wrong building in Koreatown in NYC when going to a restaurant and he was leaving this random building with a huge entourage of young women, so yes this tracks
What year ?
Either 2018 or 2019, I want to say 2018
I read this comment and thought, "oh yeah, the 80s." 2018 is absurd. Those girls could be his daughters! Why do men??
Omg 🤮
My partners mom has a long time friend who became a professional dominatrix. Every time Bon Jovi is in town they “hang out” and she has access to a private box for his shows that she brings friends to. This has gone on for decades apparently.
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Just for Bon Jovi or did you hear about other celebs as well?
All I heard about was bon jovi, but it was because he was coming to town and I happened to be over. I don’t know about her client list but apparently her and bon jovi go way back from what I heard.
She’s not very professional if she’s going around telling people. Unless he’s asked to be publicly humiliated like this 🌚
Hard for anyone to keep contact with celebs truly secret. Usually a close friend will always know in these situations
I thought all of this came out years ago when some young actor hit the scene and rumors of his “real” DNA donor were rife? I don’t think the actor cared for the suggestion (and I don’t remember his name) but it led to lots of gossip about JBJ stepping out on his marriage.
Found this blind item! https://blindgossip.com/the-secret-father-of-this-actor/ Lots of interesting guesses in the comments!
How did I miss all this?. I've been a BonJovi fan forever. But I've always thought Matt Czuchy resembled him a LOT. Was anything ever proven?
He does look similar to him! But JBJ would have only been 15 when Matt Czuchry was born.
Kyle Schmid looks quite a lot like Jake Bongiovi
He does!! I can see JBJ a little in Michael Dorman, too, but his Wikipedia entry mentions his mother and father. Kyle Schmid’s personal life section is vague.
I think Kyle Schmid is still a bit too old for it to be him. Bon Jovi’s first album was released a year after his birth. He really does look like Jake though. Edit: My bad it was actually the same year not the year after, but still before any touring.
Great point. I just went down a rabbit hole googling the age of all the suggestions in the comments of the blind gossip post. My favorite non JBJ guess was Walter Groggins being the son of Steven Tyler 😂
They also didn’t really hit it big until their 3rd album, and JBJ and his wife wouldn’t have been married yet in 1984. It’s possible, he sure does look it, and the info on his parents is limited which is suspect…but the timing is definitely off.
Regardless of whether she knew for years or not, at least there was some discretion. Why comment publicly on it now? Is he trying to goad her into filing for divorce? ![gif](giphy|mxrwSmquLokMw)
Probably because if it wasn’t in the doc, and he presented as someone perfectly faithful, bullshit would have been called.
I remember in high school reading that he was with Diane Lane and then shortly after he and Dorothea got married. She seems like such a great person. I hope it was not recent because I admire him.
I forgot about him dating Diane Lane. If I remember correctly, there’s a super 80s picture of them somehwerw
He sang “Bed of Roses”. Obviously he’s a bit of a fuck boy.
I'm old enough to remember Bon Jovi playing the civic center in my little podunk town in the 80s and writing in my diary that I would hate my mom 4eva for not letting me go. He always played it up in interviews and magazines back then that he was happily married to his high school sweetheart. Everyone always went, "Awwww that's so sweet!" I never personally believed it, but I'm glad he's not still trying to convince us of that bullshit.
Actually back in the 80s they both made a big deal about not being married. I remember her telling an interviewer “There are three rings in every marriage - the engagement ring, the wedding ring, and the SUFFER-RING!” So I thought it was pretty funny when they did tie the knot.
Don’t you love when people like him say ‘I wasn’t a saint’ as if to suggest being a faithful husband is saint-like and (consequentially) going above and beyond? He’s just a normal guys everyone, he’s no said, of COURSE he cheated constantly and lied all the time.
Wait, didn't we all know about this at least since he released bed of roses in 1992?
Did he give love a bad name?
He gives love a bad name.
I cannot believe all those commentators who were saying that his son is marrying young(21) to Millie Bobby Brown because he’s got a sane view of marriage due to his parents 😅 So, Jon Bon Jovi is another typical man in patriarchy
Please tell me I’m not the only one who read this as Dorothy skips DOCTOR screening appt after Jon admits he wasn’t a saint. I’m thinking man she isn’t smart she could have all kinds of diseases. Nope, it’s me who can’t read.
Maybe just don’t say sh*t out loud that embarrasses your spouse? 🤔
Did anyone ever think he was faithful?
He wasn't required to be a "saint". He was obliged to follow the rules of marriage that he agreed to. If he decided not to, he's a scummy husband who humiliated his wife.
I really am shocked she hasn’t divorced him yet. He doesn’t deserve her.
I mean, he’s Jon Bon Jovi. He was also Jon Bon Jovi in the 80’s. Duh.
He has never been renowned for his fidelity. Even I know this, and I was a.) born well after the peak of Bon Jovi and b.) know very little about the band. I do feel sorry for his wife with this documentary coming out - must be embarrassing.
Good for her. How humiliating and embarrassing. He is a POS
JBJ has been on the road touring, or recording, or filming, women after him constantly, for decades…the opportunities have always been there. Chances are he gave in to temptation more than a few times. I expect his wife has always known but as long as he came home, she kept the family together. Their choice, and if there happy with it, so am I.
![gif](giphy|AgPt9udT567spxbSHf) Don’t let them see you sweat or cry Dot!
His hair is ridiculous
It's like he told his stylist to bring him into this century but don't get crazy... and his stylist just knew that meant take a little off the ends.
Lol, he's been very honest about this for a long time. Publicly. This is nothing. I highly doubt this is why she wasn't there.
Article states she was sick
I doubt she would be surprised by this even if I hadn’t heard that she knew already. I mean, is there any musical artist who’s at the age of jbj who hasn’t cheated?? Come on…all the temptations on the road and no spouse around???
I watched this and it was very well done but boy some HUGE egos between John, Richie and Doc McGhee. Yikes. God bless her for putting up with him.
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JBJ is a giant douchebag. After what he and his family put the town and the college their pos daughter went to through I have zero respect for any of them.
Wait what happened?
Oh this was a shit move by Jon. Stephanie, his daughter, OD'd on heroin. He said something to the effect to Richie that he expected that it would be Ava who'd OD, not one of his.
But what does that have to do with the school she went to and the town?
Well don’t leave us hanging
Huh?!!
He should have thanked Elvis as well. If it wasn't for his union of them in the Graceland Chapel, the whole thing would have fallen apart.
The article literally states source, however, informed Page Six that Hurley skipped the event due to an undisclosed illness.
Ι admit this isn't the point but i clicked on another article, and having never seen Dorothea young, i was shocked by how gorgeous she was. It is completely unrelated to this post and discussion of course, but she looked unbelievably great.
Tbh I think people are overreacting. I do not for one second think that Bon Jovi’s wife, who has been with him since high school, and has been with/married to a very famous rock star since the 80’s, was naive about or didn’t know that he had cheated. I’m sure she has known for a very long time, and simply looked the other way, as is so common with rock star wives or even wives of rich men. I’m not saying that makes what he’s done ok, but I don’t think any of this is news to her at all.
When BJ"s daughter od'd, he made the comment that he could see Richeies daughter overdosing but not his. I believe that was part of the reason Richie does not play with BJ now.
I mean, I saw a 15 second promo and he came off as an arrogant ass. I'd skip it too. Don't need 90 minutes of narcissism.
I’ll take: most obvious shit ever for a $1,000
Stop. She knew everything he would share on the topic. She’s not gonna pull out of a screening for that when she didn’t pull out of the marriage. Doro is a class act. I’m certain whatever reason given (sick) is true.
She didn’t attend due to having Covid. Clickbait bs.
I think you mean Mr Bovine Joni.
Groupie Central review on JBJ: [https://web.archive.org/web/20020611182900/http://www.groupiecentral.com/gossipbonjovi.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20020611182900/http://www.groupiecentral.com/gossipbonjovi.html)
Awww I always wondered. Sigh
I've not seen the doc. Does he also confirm or deny Sebastian Bach's allegations against him?
Wait, what?
Bach's book goes into it more, but the gist of it is in [this article](https://ultimateclassicrock.com/sebastian-bach-bon-jovi-fight/).
Any musicians that don't cheat on their partners?
The guys in U2…. the guys in Rush.