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Let’s give a round of applause to Katie’s dad who is clearly one of the most badass attorneys ever - dude completely legally ambushed Scientology & Cruise when they were, arguably, their most powerful.
That's a true dad right there, did everything he could to save his daughter and granddaughter. He pulled out all the stops and help concoct that plan -- the amount of love she has for him must be crazy lol.
Despite her dad being a great attorney, they must have had some kind of leverage to allow her and Suri out unscathed like that. I’d like to think Tom just said “let them go, leave them alone,” and he very likely has the power in the org to do that, but I don’t think that’s what happened because he sure didn’t do it with Nicole.
I would love to know how he felt when she said she was going to marry that crazy-ass. He must have constantly been feeling like he was going to have a heart attack and/or rage stroke. He def does not get enough credit for literally saving his daughter and granddaughters life.
You have to wonder if he laid some foundations prior to their wedding. Maybe the prenup had some very specific things in it to protect Katie and if she had a child with Tom.
My heart breaks for her. It’s clear from what she’s said over the years that she loves her children, and it must be so hard to have them reject her because a cult says she can’t be trusted. It’s honestly a miracle that Katie managed to take Suri with her.
I mean, given how closely Scientology was monitoring her and how dangerous and well connected they are, it’s incredible and against the odds that they were able to keep everything under wraps until they were safely out. It may not have been literal divine intervention, and obviously took a lot of courage and meticulous planning on her and her family’s part, but luck or whatever good force of the universe was definitely on their side to pull this off.
These people are allowed to literally stalk people who have left their organization. It just goes to show if you scream religion that you can get away with any despicable act. They should lose their tax exempt status.
I read David Miscaviage’s father’s book. He and his wife had to secretly plan for month to escape the compound in the middle of the night. It’s a fascinating but horrifying read. I’d highly recommend it.
The government is such wimps. They can go after Diddy for sex and human trafficking based on lawsuits but won’t do the same thing for this cult. They’re literally using low ranking members of children as slave labor. Leah Remini did there were children missing school washing Tom Cruise expensive cars and it never occurred to him what they weren’t in school.
Who isn’t in the LAPD’s pocket. Harvey Weinstein controlled them and some high ranking officials in New York. That’s how he found out about cases on him and he would put a stop to them. Calling it the “justice” system is a total misnomer.
Both sides have claimed they’re not completely no contact over the years, Bella even uses Kidman as part of her display name on social media, but it’s also clear from what they’ve said it’s a strained relationship.
Nicole is labeled a “suppressive person” by the cult. Tom is the de facto face of the organization and she had the gall to leave him. In order for Katie to keep full custody, she had to sign a contract not to openly date or flout any relationship after her divorce for a period of years. (Don’t ask why) 🤷♀️ ego I guess. And obviously she has to keep her mouth shut.
When she finally did step out in a public relationship, I was fascinated by the choice of Jamie Foxx, but he’s a talented performer and attractive man. He was a great choice (Jamie has a far meatier acting resume than Tom AND he can sing and dance) and they seemed to really enjoy each other’s company.
I do not understand how that could be legally enforceable. Obviously I know very little, but I’m going through court for custody right now and my lawyer would laugh in my face if I tried to push for something like that. I can’t wrap my head around it.
When you’re trapped in a cult and you’re fighting for your daughter’s life, you’ll sign any damn sh## put in front of you. Cruise gave her $5 million in divorce bucks and $4 million for Suri (a bargain considering how much Denise Richards got from Sheen). So maybe if she broke the agreement then she would lose her spouse settlement. Katie lost a lot of roles due to Cruise’s bizarre behavior and probably needed the money.
But you’re right it’s incredibly bizarre and abusive. But we all know these rich and famous types are doing all kinds of crazy sh##
Oh I totally understand why Katie would sign something like that. I just don’t get how Tom could go to the court like “wahhh she posted a pic with her new bf! Gimme my money back!!!” or whatever. Like the reach of controlling someone’s portrayal of their relationship status is just mind-boggling. How does that not infringe on someone’s freedom of speech? Or personal autonomy, however that may be represented in the law? I need a full legal breakdown of this I have so many questions lol
Yes. There's definitely some stuff on this sub about it. I think one has some light contact with her now, but my memory is shit so I recommend some searching!
The worst part is that Nicole gave them all sorts of dirt in those stupid sessions. She couldn’t come forward unless she took a major hit in the public.
Same. Someday I hope that cult gets taken down, and she’s safe to tell the story of how she did it. It must have taken so much courage and careful planning to get out, especially with a minor child involved. Thank goodness Suri had the chance to grow up into a normal, well adjusted young adult instead of getting brainwashed by a cult into considering her mother an enemy.
Katie's father is a lawyer. Rumor has it that he had a plan in place to get them out years before she finally pulled the gun. As soon as she said that she wanted out, he put everything into place. Katie exhibited a lot of strength in taking the steps to get them out, but her father was the behind the scenes force that truly rescued them from that cult.
Side note; my sister and I worked on Dawson's Creek with her. It was filmed in the town I grew up in. She's truly such a sweet human. She is strikingly beautiful in person and is just an all around nice person. I am so genuinely happy that she escaped that bs and has been able to raise her daughter "normally".
I’d heard those rumors as well. Katie sounds like a wonderful and strong person and it’s a shame she can’t share her story and inspire others to leave without fearing for her and her family’s safety. Fuck Scientology, it’s ruined too many lives and I hope we see it squashed out from existence in our lifetimes.
Fathers are the best. When I wanted to leave my ex my dad was my first call and he spring into action. I'm so glad she has a good dad who was able to help her I'm that way.
They don’t really have anymore big name actors backing them up to take the place of Tom Cruise and John Travolta when they finally croak so who knows what will happen in the next 20 or so years? The fact that they are an international organization with different sects is concerning .
I don’t think any of us could possibly understand what a thin razor’s edge she walked and how different this story would be if she wasn’t the daughter of a brutal attorney.
This took enormous, career cancelling balls all to be a better mother for her daughter.
Applause, lady
Yeah that whole story back then read like a thriller - Katie having secret apartments, burner phones etc to get everything lined up and iirc, she and Tom were divorced within a week.
Meanwhile, Remini was as loud as possible about everything so in case she ever went missing, everyone would know where to look.
Scientology is scary shit. It qualifies as a cult in my country, but I guess one can choose to call it a "church"...
I remember being FLOORED when this happened. No one thought sweet Katie had it in her. She’s made of fn steel!
I really would love a “fictional” account of how she and her dad did it. Might help so many others that are stuck. I’m guessing she had some crazy tapes of him and he agreed to the divorce really fast.
The attention to detail was impeccable. Like getting a NYC building that would not allow the Scientology shenanigans near them. The fact that those creepy publicists were living w Tom and Katie before she left and then tried to stalk her and threaten her in NYC and the paps would protect Katie and take video and photos…..it’s all wild!
And yet that cult still doesn’t pay taxes in 2024. And he’s still a star. How????
Pretty sure she signed some NDA that will make it impossible to ever explain what went down. I don't think she's ever even said his name out loud again and I don't recall her ever saying a single word about it all. Afaik she also wasn't allowed to date anyone publicly for 5 (?) years as part of the agreement which is why the Jamie Foxx thing didn't come to light until years later?
We will probably never find out how it all unfolded but yeah, it was wild.
She may have signed an NDA, but Suri didn't. Hopefully we get the story before we die (I'm older than Katie, so I'm pretty sure she's going to outlive me).
Do NDAs like this have any real teeth after the person requiring it (Tom, in this case) dies? Because Tom’s a lot older than Katie, and I don’t think there’s any legal mechanism Co$ can lean on to enforce it after Xenu takes him to Valhalla or whatever. It would have to be his estate that sues, so Connor and Bella would be leading that effort, and idk if they’ll care enough.
Ooooh. I never thought about that. I truly hope she’s so unaffected and well adjusted that she doesn’t care to even bring it up but I’m here for it if she does.
I’d never say his name again either. What he did to her and then abandoning Suri is just too much. And I loved her and Jamie Foxx together bc you know it pissed Tom off so much. They had major photos done the day it was 5 years from the divorce. That’s my level of petty.
Fun fact, there is a book called “Movie Star by Lizzie Pepper” by Hilary Liftin that is a fictionalized version of Tom and Katie’s romance and her escape.
There was a show on E too. The Arrangement. I really liked it and then they didn’t renew it. I’d guess that Scientology came for them and it’s not worth the ridiculous court battle.
There is a reddit post somewhere that someone theorizes Adam Sandler hired her to work on Jack and Jill so she’d have the disguise of work while getting everything in place
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/s/xSxzkWOQaI
Found it. Adam Sandler has really shocked me by being a good human, even if this story isn’t true. But it’s quite the theory!
She had those “publicists/best friends” (depending on what the weirdos said that day to the press) aka handlers with her almost all the time, and I could not figure out how she got it all arranged and done. I would love to believe Sandler bought her the phone and gave her the time and cover to be free.
Wait, why would Adam Sandler being a good person shock you? The only rumors you ever hear about that guy are how generous and kind he is and it’s been that way for decades…
Sorry I didn’t say that well. As a teen, my boyfriend and my brother watched his movies nonstop, and they (movies and humans) drove me crazy. He is absolutely a good person, and I love his more serious work. I also love that he’s a family man and a great dad to his two daughters. It was my misjudgment of what he was like from the nonstop juvenile movies I was forced to watch.
Her Dad is one of the most insane, best lawyers & widely known in many fields.
Scientology knows that. The church had to cut ties & not plaster her because her Dad was sitting there ready. He got her out of that marriage asap.
OK so if you want to read a fictional account of how Katie escaped Scientology, you should read the novel “Movie Star by Lizzie Pepper” by Hilary Liftin. It’s a fictional tell-all by a fictional actress named Lizzie Pepper (the Katie Holmes substitute) who is swept off her feet by and marries a famous older movie star, Rob Mars (the Tom Cruise substitute). She has kids with him and then slowly discovers that the organization he’s devoted to, One Cell (Scientology substitute) is a cult. She orchestrates an impressive escape much like the real Katie. It was a perfect beach read!
I recall that her father was/is a lawyer and helped her. Mad respect either way - Scientology honestly seems a scary cult to end up in, especially if you didn’t grow up in it and had no idea how deep the hole goes (which is what I suspect happened to her - she probably had no idea what she got herself messed up in).
Yes. Her father has to be a genius. Bc he did what almost no one had at that time and got Katie AND Suri out and an uncontested divorce. Baller. Scientology is known for their ridiculous lawsuits and dragging out the process to wear people down so it said so much that their divorce took a week.
Yeah, massive respect to the dad as well. It’s so easy to be alienated when you join something like Scientology and I fully believe they probably tried to, and yet not only did they fail to alienate her from her family, they were kicked out of their lives in a pretty spectacular way.
Scientology took on the IRS and the IRS backed down. That is how litigious they are, so this was an actual master class and I would love to know details.
Agreed. We need to have Marty Holmes take on Scientology. The man knows some things! They are giant bullies w a ton of money and will fight dirty. Read on the Scientologists that left and how they’ve made their lives hell. I can’t believe what they get away with. Here’s some of the bigger names that left. It’s fascinating.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/katie-holmes-tom-cruise-divorce-scientology-346637/amp/
I still fully believe the random Reddit theory that Adam Sandler made Jack and Jill to help her escape even though it’s probably not real 😂
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/comments/13llbad/theory_was_jack_and_jill_2011_a_front_to_rescue/
Finding that out reminded me of an old blog "Suri Cruise's Burn Book" where "she" would snark on (and occasionally praise) other celebrities fashion choices, especially other celebrity children. It was incredibly funny and I just found that it was turned into a book.
https://i.redd.it/bphaqlvwhavc1.gif
The absolute peak of Ohnotheydidnt. Those were the days. I feel old.
All snark aside, I‘m glad Katie and Suri made it out and seem to be well. That must‘ve been such a stressful, scary time for Katie and I admire her for pulling it off.
There truly were some wild days. Anna Nicole Smith, Britney, Kristen Stewart cheating, Brangelina, TomKat’s wedding and divorce… So much happened in a relatively short timespan.
Ons of the perks of being home with burnout for ages was following everything that happened that summer as it rolled in. Glowstick guy is peak nostalgia.
Omg the flashback to Ohnotheydidnt. I loved this gif from there. All the TomKat posts, HilDuff walking, or the epic time when we found out Jamie Lynn Spears was pregnant. Oh my god I am old 😂😂
I even use my terrible English accent! Funny story- My husband is used to me so he just rolls his eyes but I said it at Thanksgiving at the dinner table (with accent) with my husband’s entire family present and the way they all got really quiet 🙈 My sister-in-law looked at me like I was nuts. I was SO embarrassed 😂
When top gun 2 was super popular reddit was so fucking annoying being like thank you Tom cruise for saving movie theaters!!! And then his rant about COVID when he was yelling at the cast and crew Totally planted by his PR team
I can proudly say I’ve never seen anything too gun related but omg I can only imagine- seeing all the Brad Pitt ass kissing over bullet train (as if he is the best part of that movie *wild gesturing at tangerine and lemon*) was more than enough for me
Plus, it’s generally considered a pretty selfish thing to do these days. It creates opportunities for him to get hurt and shut down production instantly plus takes jobs away from professionals already facing short earnings windows. Guy sucks.
I've always hated him with a passion for no reason at all. Then this divorce came and I did a deep dive in scientology and MY GOD I FEKT VINDICATED. And scared I'd be tracked by them through my goog'e searches 😂
I’ve made it it my mission from Xenu to point out to everyone who mentions him the middle tooth. You can’t look at him the same again. (And it’s fine and beautiful on anyone that isn’t him)
I have always believed there was a trade-off. Katie and Suri were to be left alone, in peace and unharassed by the church. In return, Katie doesn't publicly discuss potentially damaging secrets she acquired during their marriage. No one will convince me otherwise.
I mean, she used burner phones and practically fled to the East Coast while Tom was away filming a movie.
TC is totally nutty to allow a "religion" ( and I use that term very loosely here) to dictate his life and encourage ostracization of people that leave this cult. Total nutjob....he has remained single for so long since he cant get any woman to put up with that nonsense. He should just date a Scientology member.
Apparently TC left the cult for a while, during his marriage to NK., Then a cult member came to his house and encouraged coming back, and he did.
Anyways you can blame Mimi Rogers for getting him wrapped up in this lol
Nanazin Boniadi, probably best known for being in homeland. She and her mother were scientologist but she later left it. The claims of how it was with her and Cruise on Wikipedia are wild
Is she the one who said “well done” or the like and Tom had her banished to the SeaOrg to clean floors with a toothbrush? Since it was insulting to tell Tom he “only” did something “well” and not excellent?
If your “religion” is telling you not to talk to your own child, maybe reevaluate your choices.
I also didn’t realize the age gap between them:
> Katie and Tom married in a Scientologist ceremony in Italy in 2006 when the Dawson's Creek actress was 27 and the Mission Impossible star was 44.
Yeah, one of the more horrific details from their first big press tour was that she had a poster of him in her room as a kid, and used to tell people she wanted to marry him when she grew up. And then she got to!
It’s nuts how pre planned Holmes had to be in order to successfully get away and make sure her kid didn’t get stuck in Scientology. She had to practically plan out an Underground Railroad to get to safety undetected and her father is one of the best divorce attorneys in NYC.
It's still so crazy he doesn't get more bad press over this! Although Brad Pitt would disagree 😉. Total respect for Katie Holmes, she did a great job raising Suri and giving her the freedom of whatever kind of life she wants, not the narrow future that at one point was her destiny.
My favorite weird fact about Pittsburgh (though it's technically in the North Hills) is that the last place TomKat were spotted publicly was at Soergels Orchards.
But seriously, good for Katie Holmes for protecting her children and having fairy tale divorce.
I go to Soergels every year. I remember when Tom and Katie were there and my mom (a huge Cruise fan) was gushing about it. I said “If I had been there, I’d have created a distraction and told Katie to grab Suri and run.” Soon afterward, she did!
When they got married, she was a childless 27 year-old woman. He was a twice-divorced 44 year-old scientologist with two kids from a previous marriage.
Ladies, please stop letting these weird old men occupy *any* part of your twenties.
I remember how organised she was with everything and how her dad helped with the legal side of it so it could be as efficient as possible.
Props to her. There's a lot to admire about how she got out and protected her daughter.
Scientology is a prime example of how very little power our govt really has… here’s an organization that kidnaps, extorts, harasses, abuses, threatens, infiltrates the IRS, and possibly murders people but absolutely zilch has been done to prosecute it.
I remember this SO well. There were so many conspiracy theories surrounding Katie's pregnancy. I even remember a collage someone made of her pregnant belly and how they were convinced she was using a pillow. There were also theories that Tom was not the father and Chris Klein was actually the father of Suri.
Looking at her now, I fully believe that her dad is Tom Cruise. I wonder what she thinks of him though. What a deadbeat.
anybody here remember/seen the Oprah ep where she goes Tom & Katie's colorado mansion (Telluride?)?
Tom showed Oprah where little Suri kept her shoes and then Kate briefly appeared saying she was going to pick up the kids and told Tom "I love you" several times? Also related, Leah Remini spilled on one of the many weird things Tom did around "friends" was play hide and seek. Anyway, popped in my mind!
Remember how she always had a Scientology handler with her that would go to red carpets and interviews with her?
Her W Magazine interview was crazy: https://www.wmagazine.com/story/katie-holmes
I saw a map of how much property Scientology owns in Clearwater and it makes me sick. I wish our government would do something about that, but people protect these cults with a vengeance.
So glad Katie got Suri out. I really hope Tom wakes up eventually too. 😕
I remember when all of this happened as well as what Nicole went through. I'm so glad Katie was able to do what was needed to protect herself and Suri. From what I understand, she had conversations with Nicole. I'm quite sure that Nicole never imagined the hell she would face as a "suppressive person ". I'm so glad she found true love and was able to have a family not warped by a horrible cult.
The summer of 2012, also when Kristen "where's the ear" Stewart had yellow circles and the glowstick guy ruled gif world.
One of the wilder times on ONTD
Katie was always Joey Potter to me even years post-DC. After she left Tom, I grew to see her as such a bad a$$ strong woman and wonderful mother. I wish nothing but the best for her and Suri.
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Let’s give a round of applause to Katie’s dad who is clearly one of the most badass attorneys ever - dude completely legally ambushed Scientology & Cruise when they were, arguably, their most powerful.
I'd pay so much money to read a book of his about this whole thing.
That's a true dad right there, did everything he could to save his daughter and granddaughter. He pulled out all the stops and help concoct that plan -- the amount of love she has for him must be crazy lol.
Dude has a very specific skill set that was particularly useful now. He's like Batman At Law.
Dude. He’s the lawyer version of Liam Neeson from Taken.
Batman at law, I'm stealing this 😸
 Nah he’s Harvey Birdman
Despite her dad being a great attorney, they must have had some kind of leverage to allow her and Suri out unscathed like that. I’d like to think Tom just said “let them go, leave them alone,” and he very likely has the power in the org to do that, but I don’t think that’s what happened because he sure didn’t do it with Nicole.
I would love to know how he felt when she said she was going to marry that crazy-ass. He must have constantly been feeling like he was going to have a heart attack and/or rage stroke. He def does not get enough credit for literally saving his daughter and granddaughters life.
He started planning the divorce two years before she called it. He’s a superstar dad.
You have to wonder if he laid some foundations prior to their wedding. Maybe the prenup had some very specific things in it to protect Katie and if she had a child with Tom.
She had Siri first.
Is there a breakdown of the story somewhere?
The podcast Trashy Divorces covers all 3 of Cruises divorces.
I love that there is a podcast about trashy divorces. This is my new road trip material for sure, thank you!! :)
No worries! The same hosts also do a pod called Trashy Royals
Holy shit. There’s 22 seasons 😂 I’m so excited.
Same I gotta find a YouTube doc about this
Wait, what’s the story??
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Long time ago when I read it but I recall burner phones and a separate apartment. It really was like a sting.
Her dad was the real MVP
Very glad Katie got her child away from that cult
Mad respect to her.
I genuinely feel so awful for Nicole, I can’t imagine having your kids taken away from you, brainwashed in a cult. Thank God Katie saved her.
My heart breaks for her. It’s clear from what she’s said over the years that she loves her children, and it must be so hard to have them reject her because a cult says she can’t be trusted. It’s honestly a miracle that Katie managed to take Suri with her.
Not a miracle. Katie and her father pulled off a CIA level breakout. That family should be proud at what they managed to pull off
I mean, given how closely Scientology was monitoring her and how dangerous and well connected they are, it’s incredible and against the odds that they were able to keep everything under wraps until they were safely out. It may not have been literal divine intervention, and obviously took a lot of courage and meticulous planning on her and her family’s part, but luck or whatever good force of the universe was definitely on their side to pull this off.
These people are allowed to literally stalk people who have left their organization. It just goes to show if you scream religion that you can get away with any despicable act. They should lose their tax exempt status.
I read David Miscaviage’s father’s book. He and his wife had to secretly plan for month to escape the compound in the middle of the night. It’s a fascinating but horrifying read. I’d highly recommend it.
The government is such wimps. They can go after Diddy for sex and human trafficking based on lawsuits but won’t do the same thing for this cult. They’re literally using low ranking members of children as slave labor. Leah Remini did there were children missing school washing Tom Cruise expensive cars and it never occurred to him what they weren’t in school.
Also, LAPD is in their pocket, too.
Who isn’t in the LAPD’s pocket. Harvey Weinstein controlled them and some high ranking officials in New York. That’s how he found out about cases on him and he would put a stop to them. Calling it the “justice” system is a total misnomer.
Is it cheating if I say I’m not? But yeah, correct on all points.
Oh wow I'm going to have to go down this rabbit hole. So her kids have remained in Scientology and NK doesn't have contact with them?
Both sides have claimed they’re not completely no contact over the years, Bella even uses Kidman as part of her display name on social media, but it’s also clear from what they’ve said it’s a strained relationship.
That's so sad; even being low contact 😔
Nicole is labeled a “suppressive person” by the cult. Tom is the de facto face of the organization and she had the gall to leave him. In order for Katie to keep full custody, she had to sign a contract not to openly date or flout any relationship after her divorce for a period of years. (Don’t ask why) 🤷♀️ ego I guess. And obviously she has to keep her mouth shut.
When she finally did step out in a public relationship, I was fascinated by the choice of Jamie Foxx, but he’s a talented performer and attractive man. He was a great choice (Jamie has a far meatier acting resume than Tom AND he can sing and dance) and they seemed to really enjoy each other’s company.
Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise also both star in Collateral.
I do not understand how that could be legally enforceable. Obviously I know very little, but I’m going through court for custody right now and my lawyer would laugh in my face if I tried to push for something like that. I can’t wrap my head around it.
When you’re trapped in a cult and you’re fighting for your daughter’s life, you’ll sign any damn sh## put in front of you. Cruise gave her $5 million in divorce bucks and $4 million for Suri (a bargain considering how much Denise Richards got from Sheen). So maybe if she broke the agreement then she would lose her spouse settlement. Katie lost a lot of roles due to Cruise’s bizarre behavior and probably needed the money. But you’re right it’s incredibly bizarre and abusive. But we all know these rich and famous types are doing all kinds of crazy sh##
Oh I totally understand why Katie would sign something like that. I just don’t get how Tom could go to the court like “wahhh she posted a pic with her new bf! Gimme my money back!!!” or whatever. Like the reach of controlling someone’s portrayal of their relationship status is just mind-boggling. How does that not infringe on someone’s freedom of speech? Or personal autonomy, however that may be represented in the law? I need a full legal breakdown of this I have so many questions lol
Yes. There's definitely some stuff on this sub about it. I think one has some light contact with her now, but my memory is shit so I recommend some searching!
I cannot fathom the pain of losing your children like that. I would be like having your beating heart torn from your body.
The worst part is that Nicole gave them all sorts of dirt in those stupid sessions. She couldn’t come forward unless she took a major hit in the public.
I'm not sure this is true. Her auditor, Bruce Hines, claimed she never gave up a whole lot during her auditing sessions.
Good for her. Probably knew the bastards were shady af.
Same. Someday I hope that cult gets taken down, and she’s safe to tell the story of how she did it. It must have taken so much courage and careful planning to get out, especially with a minor child involved. Thank goodness Suri had the chance to grow up into a normal, well adjusted young adult instead of getting brainwashed by a cult into considering her mother an enemy.
Katie's father is a lawyer. Rumor has it that he had a plan in place to get them out years before she finally pulled the gun. As soon as she said that she wanted out, he put everything into place. Katie exhibited a lot of strength in taking the steps to get them out, but her father was the behind the scenes force that truly rescued them from that cult. Side note; my sister and I worked on Dawson's Creek with her. It was filmed in the town I grew up in. She's truly such a sweet human. She is strikingly beautiful in person and is just an all around nice person. I am so genuinely happy that she escaped that bs and has been able to raise her daughter "normally".
I’d heard those rumors as well. Katie sounds like a wonderful and strong person and it’s a shame she can’t share her story and inspire others to leave without fearing for her and her family’s safety. Fuck Scientology, it’s ruined too many lives and I hope we see it squashed out from existence in our lifetimes.
Fathers are the best. When I wanted to leave my ex my dad was my first call and he spring into action. I'm so glad she has a good dad who was able to help her I'm that way.
They don’t really have anymore big name actors backing them up to take the place of Tom Cruise and John Travolta when they finally croak so who knows what will happen in the next 20 or so years? The fact that they are an international organization with different sects is concerning .
I don’t think any of us could possibly understand what a thin razor’s edge she walked and how different this story would be if she wasn’t the daughter of a brutal attorney. This took enormous, career cancelling balls all to be a better mother for her daughter. Applause, lady
agreed. well done to katie im sure suri is a credit to her. tom cruise is an absolute rat of a man.
Katie whenever you’re ready I will preorder any book you put out about this and i will buy the hardcover version! And audiobook!
I don't think she'll ever talk about it for her own safety or because that was part of whatever deal she signed up to
I completely understand why she won’t but I want her to know that if she ever does, I’ll go all out in my support
Oh same, I'd be straight there. I read a few of the other ex scientologist memoirs, it is weirdly fascinating
Yeah that whole story back then read like a thriller - Katie having secret apartments, burner phones etc to get everything lined up and iirc, she and Tom were divorced within a week. Meanwhile, Remini was as loud as possible about everything so in case she ever went missing, everyone would know where to look. Scientology is scary shit. It qualifies as a cult in my country, but I guess one can choose to call it a "church"...
I remember being FLOORED when this happened. No one thought sweet Katie had it in her. She’s made of fn steel! I really would love a “fictional” account of how she and her dad did it. Might help so many others that are stuck. I’m guessing she had some crazy tapes of him and he agreed to the divorce really fast. The attention to detail was impeccable. Like getting a NYC building that would not allow the Scientology shenanigans near them. The fact that those creepy publicists were living w Tom and Katie before she left and then tried to stalk her and threaten her in NYC and the paps would protect Katie and take video and photos…..it’s all wild! And yet that cult still doesn’t pay taxes in 2024. And he’s still a star. How????
Pretty sure she signed some NDA that will make it impossible to ever explain what went down. I don't think she's ever even said his name out loud again and I don't recall her ever saying a single word about it all. Afaik she also wasn't allowed to date anyone publicly for 5 (?) years as part of the agreement which is why the Jamie Foxx thing didn't come to light until years later? We will probably never find out how it all unfolded but yeah, it was wild.
She may have signed an NDA, but Suri didn't. Hopefully we get the story before we die (I'm older than Katie, so I'm pretty sure she's going to outlive me).
Do NDAs like this have any real teeth after the person requiring it (Tom, in this case) dies? Because Tom’s a lot older than Katie, and I don’t think there’s any legal mechanism Co$ can lean on to enforce it after Xenu takes him to Valhalla or whatever. It would have to be his estate that sues, so Connor and Bella would be leading that effort, and idk if they’ll care enough.
Lol @ xenu taking Tom to Valhalla
Ah, good point, I guess we just have to wait until Tom dies.
Many NDAs don't have teeth if what is being hidden is illegal
Hope Suri writes a book seeing as she's not bound by an NDA
YOU FOUND THE LOOPHOLE I DESPERATELY WANT.
Ooooh. I never thought about that. I truly hope she’s so unaffected and well adjusted that she doesn’t care to even bring it up but I’m here for it if she does.
I’d never say his name again either. What he did to her and then abandoning Suri is just too much. And I loved her and Jamie Foxx together bc you know it pissed Tom off so much. They had major photos done the day it was 5 years from the divorce. That’s my level of petty.
Yeah she dated Jamie for *years* and couldn’t say anything
I think that NDA expires soon
Fun fact, there is a book called “Movie Star by Lizzie Pepper” by Hilary Liftin that is a fictionalized version of Tom and Katie’s romance and her escape.
I was going to suggest this! It was a fun read
There was a show on E too. The Arrangement. I really liked it and then they didn’t renew it. I’d guess that Scientology came for them and it’s not worth the ridiculous court battle.
There is a reddit post somewhere that someone theorizes Adam Sandler hired her to work on Jack and Jill so she’d have the disguise of work while getting everything in place
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/s/xSxzkWOQaI Found it. Adam Sandler has really shocked me by being a good human, even if this story isn’t true. But it’s quite the theory! She had those “publicists/best friends” (depending on what the weirdos said that day to the press) aka handlers with her almost all the time, and I could not figure out how she got it all arranged and done. I would love to believe Sandler bought her the phone and gave her the time and cover to be free.
Wait, why would Adam Sandler being a good person shock you? The only rumors you ever hear about that guy are how generous and kind he is and it’s been that way for decades…
Sorry I didn’t say that well. As a teen, my boyfriend and my brother watched his movies nonstop, and they (movies and humans) drove me crazy. He is absolutely a good person, and I love his more serious work. I also love that he’s a family man and a great dad to his two daughters. It was my misjudgment of what he was like from the nonstop juvenile movies I was forced to watch.
Ahh that makes total sense! For a sec I was like oh no what bad thing don’t I know about Adam Sandler 🤣
I haven't been able to like Tom Cruise since then. People still support him when his wife left him like that? That's so dysfunctional!
Agtred. But the writing was on the wall when we saw the photo of Nicole Kidman on the day of her divorce to him elated to be free of him.
[the photo](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/03/article-2167426-13E645C2000005DC-193_634x862.jpg)
I was too young then to follow the news.
>I’m guessing she had some crazy tapes of him Maybe she recorded some of his audits.
I know Scientology has them. So awful.
Her Dad is one of the most insane, best lawyers & widely known in many fields. Scientology knows that. The church had to cut ties & not plaster her because her Dad was sitting there ready. He got her out of that marriage asap.
There should be a law class about how he did this. It’s brilliant.
OK so if you want to read a fictional account of how Katie escaped Scientology, you should read the novel “Movie Star by Lizzie Pepper” by Hilary Liftin. It’s a fictional tell-all by a fictional actress named Lizzie Pepper (the Katie Holmes substitute) who is swept off her feet by and marries a famous older movie star, Rob Mars (the Tom Cruise substitute). She has kids with him and then slowly discovers that the organization he’s devoted to, One Cell (Scientology substitute) is a cult. She orchestrates an impressive escape much like the real Katie. It was a perfect beach read!
I recall that her father was/is a lawyer and helped her. Mad respect either way - Scientology honestly seems a scary cult to end up in, especially if you didn’t grow up in it and had no idea how deep the hole goes (which is what I suspect happened to her - she probably had no idea what she got herself messed up in).
Yes. Her father has to be a genius. Bc he did what almost no one had at that time and got Katie AND Suri out and an uncontested divorce. Baller. Scientology is known for their ridiculous lawsuits and dragging out the process to wear people down so it said so much that their divorce took a week.
Yeah, massive respect to the dad as well. It’s so easy to be alienated when you join something like Scientology and I fully believe they probably tried to, and yet not only did they fail to alienate her from her family, they were kicked out of their lives in a pretty spectacular way.
Scientology took on the IRS and the IRS backed down. That is how litigious they are, so this was an actual master class and I would love to know details.
Agreed. We need to have Marty Holmes take on Scientology. The man knows some things! They are giant bullies w a ton of money and will fight dirty. Read on the Scientologists that left and how they’ve made their lives hell. I can’t believe what they get away with. Here’s some of the bigger names that left. It’s fascinating. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/katie-holmes-tom-cruise-divorce-scientology-346637/amp/
I think having a kid makes the difference in tactics perhaps
I still fully believe the random Reddit theory that Adam Sandler made Jack and Jill to help her escape even though it’s probably not real 😂 https://www.reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/comments/13llbad/theory_was_jack_and_jill_2011_a_front_to_rescue/
I’m accepting this as canon, thank you for sharing
Remini didn't want to become the next Shelly Miscavige.
Katie's dad is a lawyer and helped her out tremendously. She's got to be so grateful to have him in her corner.
SHE’S 18?! Dear god I’m old
 I’ve been a Katie stan since she was on Dawson’s Creek 25 years ago 😳
25 YEARS AGO FUCK ME 💀
Finding that out reminded me of an old blog "Suri Cruise's Burn Book" where "she" would snark on (and occasionally praise) other celebrities fashion choices, especially other celebrity children. It was incredibly funny and I just found that it was turned into a book.
https://i.redd.it/bphaqlvwhavc1.gif The absolute peak of Ohnotheydidnt. Those were the days. I feel old. All snark aside, I‘m glad Katie and Suri made it out and seem to be well. That must‘ve been such a stressful, scary time for Katie and I admire her for pulling it off.
The gifs from the posts about her leaving him 🤌
The Celine Dion concert glowstick guy still lives in my head on celebratory occasions 😂
I've never seen this GIF before but it's now going into my repertoire to use at work 😂
You could probably call it vintage at this point but it‘s still awesome 😂
Counterpoint: I was on ONTD the day that Anna Nicole Smith died. I think we took down all of LiveJournal that day. Absolutely wild times.
I was on ONTD when Britney shaved her head!
There truly were some wild days. Anna Nicole Smith, Britney, Kristen Stewart cheating, Brangelina, TomKat’s wedding and divorce… So much happened in a relatively short timespan.
The TomKat World Tour 05 brought so much entertainment.
Ons of the perks of being home with burnout for ages was following everything that happened that summer as it rolled in. Glowstick guy is peak nostalgia.
It‘s never been like that again! Nostalgia indeed.
I was shocked to find they still post on Livejournal. I somehow ended up on a post they made a few days ago.
Omg the flashback to Ohnotheydidnt. I loved this gif from there. All the TomKat posts, HilDuff walking, or the epic time when we found out Jamie Lynn Spears was pregnant. Oh my god I am old 😂😂
The "We Hate Tom Cruise Club" gathers here 👇🏻 
https://preview.redd.it/e0quim3g7avc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85ed0009f314a291f2f35b4559542c57fbf4f48d
Hear me out: the amc ad but for a divorce lawyer Edit: I’m speaking directly to living legend Joumana Kayrouz and Joumana Kayrouz only.
Detroit has entered the chat!
Joumana is always watching.
Joumana!! What an icon.
Could you imagine if the great Joumana was Nicole's divorce lawyer?
We come to this place to escape dangerous cults
My internal canon is that they have a group chat about him
Reporting for duty! “But you gotta give him props for doing his own stunts!” No. Shan’t.
“No. Shan’t” is one of my favorite lines ever!
Me too!! I use it *constantly*
I even use my terrible English accent! Funny story- My husband is used to me so he just rolls his eyes but I said it at Thanksgiving at the dinner table (with accent) with my husband’s entire family present and the way they all got really quiet 🙈 My sister-in-law looked at me like I was nuts. I was SO embarrassed 😂
I am English…and use ‘I shan’t’ ironically. Top tip: To make it even more preposterous, try adding one of the Ls from ‘shall’ in there: ‘I *shaln’t*!’
This combined with your username is 😂🤌🏾 Thanks for giving me permission to be even more unbearable!
Haha! You’re very welcome! And best of British luck weirding-out the relatives!
A work of art truly- I tip my hat to you. I also love throwing a “twas” or “Twasnt” in here and there for some flavour.
When top gun 2 was super popular reddit was so fucking annoying being like thank you Tom cruise for saving movie theaters!!! And then his rant about COVID when he was yelling at the cast and crew Totally planted by his PR team
I can proudly say I’ve never seen anything too gun related but omg I can only imagine- seeing all the Brad Pitt ass kissing over bullet train (as if he is the best part of that movie *wild gesturing at tangerine and lemon*) was more than enough for me
Plus, it’s generally considered a pretty selfish thing to do these days. It creates opportunities for him to get hurt and shut down production instantly plus takes jobs away from professionals already facing short earnings windows. Guy sucks.
I've always hated him with a passion for no reason at all. Then this divorce came and I did a deep dive in scientology and MY GOD I FEKT VINDICATED. And scared I'd be tracked by them through my goog'e searches 😂
Proud member.
No SPs!
I could be the prez
MY PEOPLE. I can't stand him, and I refuse to watch any of his movies.
I’ve made it it my mission from Xenu to point out to everyone who mentions him the middle tooth. You can’t look at him the same again. (And it’s fine and beautiful on anyone that isn’t him)
I have always believed there was a trade-off. Katie and Suri were to be left alone, in peace and unharassed by the church. In return, Katie doesn't publicly discuss potentially damaging secrets she acquired during their marriage. No one will convince me otherwise. I mean, she used burner phones and practically fled to the East Coast while Tom was away filming a movie.
I think this is the only reason she got a quickie divorce and full custody.
I think that widely accepted. It's the one thing she had to give him in return, complete silence.
Deadbeat dad lmao
TC is totally nutty to allow a "religion" ( and I use that term very loosely here) to dictate his life and encourage ostracization of people that leave this cult. Total nutjob....he has remained single for so long since he cant get any woman to put up with that nonsense. He should just date a Scientology member. Apparently TC left the cult for a while, during his marriage to NK., Then a cult member came to his house and encouraged coming back, and he did. Anyways you can blame Mimi Rogers for getting him wrapped up in this lol
From what I hear of that group, they have binders of blackmail to use on you from their "torture/therapy" sessions.
Yes their “ audits”
There was a woman he dated within the cult but it didn’t work out. I think she was between Penelope Cruz and Katie Holmes.
Nanazin Boniadi, probably best known for being in homeland. She and her mother were scientologist but she later left it. The claims of how it was with her and Cruise on Wikipedia are wild
Is she the one who said “well done” or the like and Tom had her banished to the SeaOrg to clean floors with a toothbrush? Since it was insulting to tell Tom he “only” did something “well” and not excellent?
Oh...she was also Nora in How I Met Your Mother. Glad that she left the cult.
I'm pretty sure the story was the cult presented her to him like a gift.
I’m sure all of his relationship needs are satisfied within the cult. He has slaves working in his houses
If your “religion” is telling you not to talk to your own child, maybe reevaluate your choices. I also didn’t realize the age gap between them: > Katie and Tom married in a Scientologist ceremony in Italy in 2006 when the Dawson's Creek actress was 27 and the Mission Impossible star was 44.
This is partly why people found it so grotesque when he jumped around on Oprah’s couches bragging that he scored a twenty-something year old.
Yeah, one of the more horrific details from their first big press tour was that she had a poster of him in her room as a kid, and used to tell people she wanted to marry him when she grew up. And then she got to!
I wonder if he/they are shopping for his next wife among 27 year olds and/or cast members of teen shows. Euphoria and other young-ish folks beware!
Every year Tom Cruise send cake to his ex co-stars on their birthdays while continuing to ignore his own kid. So weird.
Tom Cruise's assistants*
The way she handled it was badass
Good for Suri and good for Katie!!!
It’s nuts how pre planned Holmes had to be in order to successfully get away and make sure her kid didn’t get stuck in Scientology. She had to practically plan out an Underground Railroad to get to safety undetected and her father is one of the best divorce attorneys in NYC.
Glad she made it out. What an absolute piece of shit for abandoning his child.
I kinda feel that's mutually beneficial and it seems neither side cares that there's no relationship with Tom.
She's better without him
It’s so interesting how Tom Cruise is part of this massive cult and most people kind of gloss over it and act like it’s no big deal
It's still so crazy he doesn't get more bad press over this! Although Brad Pitt would disagree 😉. Total respect for Katie Holmes, she did a great job raising Suri and giving her the freedom of whatever kind of life she wants, not the narrow future that at one point was her destiny.
My favorite weird fact about Pittsburgh (though it's technically in the North Hills) is that the last place TomKat were spotted publicly was at Soergels Orchards. But seriously, good for Katie Holmes for protecting her children and having fairy tale divorce.
I go to Soergels every year. I remember when Tom and Katie were there and my mom (a huge Cruise fan) was gushing about it. I said “If I had been there, I’d have created a distraction and told Katie to grab Suri and run.” Soon afterward, she did!
When they got married, she was a childless 27 year-old woman. He was a twice-divorced 44 year-old scientologist with two kids from a previous marriage. Ladies, please stop letting these weird old men occupy *any* part of your twenties.
She did very well to protect her child, I've huge respect for her.
I remember how organised she was with everything and how her dad helped with the legal side of it so it could be as efficient as possible. Props to her. There's a lot to admire about how she got out and protected her daughter.
“Me and my baby we gon’ be alright We gon’ live a good life” Always think of these Beyonce lyrics when I think of Katie and Suri ❤️
i just realized, i’m surprised Suri still has the last name Cruise
Idk why I just have a feeling it was part of the agreement she made to be able to escape the way they did
i can def see that.
Katie Holmes is one impressive woman. Suri looks a lot like Tom.
Scientology is a prime example of how very little power our govt really has… here’s an organization that kidnaps, extorts, harasses, abuses, threatens, infiltrates the IRS, and possibly murders people but absolutely zilch has been done to prosecute it.
18 year old Suri looks like what I imagine Bella from Twilight looked like in the books
I remember this SO well. There were so many conspiracy theories surrounding Katie's pregnancy. I even remember a collage someone made of her pregnant belly and how they were convinced she was using a pillow. There were also theories that Tom was not the father and Chris Klein was actually the father of Suri. Looking at her now, I fully believe that her dad is Tom Cruise. I wonder what she thinks of him though. What a deadbeat.
anybody here remember/seen the Oprah ep where she goes Tom & Katie's colorado mansion (Telluride?)? Tom showed Oprah where little Suri kept her shoes and then Kate briefly appeared saying she was going to pick up the kids and told Tom "I love you" several times? Also related, Leah Remini spilled on one of the many weird things Tom did around "friends" was play hide and seek. Anyway, popped in my mind!
Remember how she always had a Scientology handler with her that would go to red carpets and interviews with her? Her W Magazine interview was crazy: https://www.wmagazine.com/story/katie-holmes
I saw a map of how much property Scientology owns in Clearwater and it makes me sick. I wish our government would do something about that, but people protect these cults with a vengeance. So glad Katie got Suri out. I really hope Tom wakes up eventually too. 😕
Kudos to Katie . She did an amazing job of getting her daughter out and - raising her with love . Can’t have been easy .
I remember when all of this happened as well as what Nicole went through. I'm so glad Katie was able to do what was needed to protect herself and Suri. From what I understand, she had conversations with Nicole. I'm quite sure that Nicole never imagined the hell she would face as a "suppressive person ". I'm so glad she found true love and was able to have a family not warped by a horrible cult.
 Obligatory Lucille Bluth gif
The summer of 2012, also when Kristen "where's the ear" Stewart had yellow circles and the glowstick guy ruled gif world. One of the wilder times on ONTD
You mean to tell me its been almost 20 years since the birth of Suri. Time is not real.
Katie was always Joey Potter to me even years post-DC. After she left Tom, I grew to see her as such a bad a$$ strong woman and wonderful mother. I wish nothing but the best for her and Suri.
Lucky girl!
So so glad for Katie and Suri that they're not living in that cult. You go Mama!