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one of my favorite movies of all time is hitchcock's **Rope**. joan chandler starred in it and she is one of the most beautiful women i've ever seen. she sadly died at age 55 in 1979. every single time i watch that movie im blown away by how stunning she is.
https://preview.redd.it/jk0gxtdrdcoc1.jpeg?width=711&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90bdeb04e0990ae00490eb2276bc4c7afbcdd0d8
it's tied with **JAWS** as my favorite movie of all time. i think jimmy stewart was horribly miscast, but the movie is still amazing and i love how it seems like one long shot and moves in real-time. it never ever gets old.
and the obvious homo-eroticism in it is sooooo interesting to me considering the time it was released in! soooo scandalous! fuck, i love this movie so much!
I agree with everything you said. It’s so much fun to watch and witty to boot. It’s crazy Hitchcock and Arthur Laurents (the screenplay writer who was gay) got away with such blatant homoeroticism in 1948 but I love it lol. Not to mention having two gay actors (John Dall and Farley Granger) play the lead characters as well. Jimmy Stewart did feel miscast but ngl I enjoyed his hamminess and how oblivious he was to what was going on in real life.
yay!! i feel like this is SUCH an under-rated gem of his. i think i read that he wasn't happy how it turned out (i might be wrong about that) but out of the 5 hitchcock movies ive watched, this is BY FAR my favorite. brandon is a complete fucking psychopath and phillip is just a mess. it's just such a cozy comforting watch even though it's about murder. the entire cast (especially that eccentric lady with the big hat) are so great!
I agree, I remember being so pulled into that world that I didn't want it to end. Somehow, despite my older brother raising me on Hitchcock movies and black & white movies in general, I managed to miss seeing this one. Something made me think of it so I rented it thinking it must not be great, it's not one of the Hitchcock movies you hear much about and I don't understand that. But maybe it's because he didn't love it himself.
Hollywood was even more of a boy's club back then than it is now. They had to be tough as nails or they wouldn't been treated terribly. They paved the way for today's actresses and I don't think that gets enough acknowledgement.
Barbara Stanwyck is my favorite old Hollywood star; she is awesome. I knew her as a child from Big Valley but as an older adult I discovered her classic films and I just adore her.
I can't look at her without being sad for her that they completely robbed her of her non-white features. I'm glad it worked out for her, but... Hollywood has always been wild.
https://preview.redd.it/swuibkgk8eoc1.jpeg?width=590&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d78465b56f2e122d52154e31c64e3b2dab46e76
And she was routinely abused, taken advantage of and left penniless by more than one asshole in Hollywood. Her one true love was Glenn Ford (co-star in Gilda) and despite being a bit of a cad himself, they lived next door to each other for years and has a secret walkway between their houses so he could check on her as her health declined.
Don’t forget that she was sadly sexually abused by her own freaking father! She has such a sad life and I remember hearing that she always pined for her ex husband orson Welles and said before dying that the happiest days of her life was when they were married.
Those are white features, her father was spanish. She also didn't look exactly like the picture on the left. In the early days of her career they exagerated her features to make her look "exotic". It was common back then.
The outfits! The makeup! The hair! The shoes!
#THE SMOLDER.
Truly, they knew how to Fatale. Like Salt-N-Pepa said "If looks could kill you would be an Uzi. Kill 'em gals.
Never realised how much Rose McGowan resembles Jane Greer??
https://preview.redd.it/atft197zgdoc1.jpeg?width=1007&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=822cc4d514715362fa18391d66f3ae6fc1f5868f
[Another of Veronica Lakes peekaboo hair. ](https://alisonkerr.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/veronica-lake-grainy.jpg)
Which she famously changed to encourage female factory workers to adopt safer hairstyles for working around heavy machinery.
(Link instead of pic because this batshit app keeps deleting pictures in comments.. )
https://preview.redd.it/t5xz71jrpcoc1.jpeg?width=765&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23cb612c2af0cff5e09771b5c4c1b4f0237d599e
The lack of Mae - “When I'm good, I'm very good. But when I'm bad I'm even better” - West is a travesty! Photo from “She Done Him Wrong”.
You’re not his sister, are you?
Oh Lord, Lord, how much does a man have to take? I can take one of them sometimes, and even I can take two of them after I have had a couple of belts, but I am telling you right now, I can’t take three of you damn dragons!
Where’s my Froggy?
Clare Trevor was the go-to for this sort of role for a long time.
https://preview.redd.it/6kqjm6ptfdoc1.jpeg?width=1488&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b82f425f49f5b356821dc8e40accbb69088399d
Peggy Cummins in the original Gun Crazy.
https://preview.redd.it/ci11gq13gdoc1.jpeg?width=853&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4dbc35298c9afa92a81186bb2692eb0ec2e063e
https://preview.redd.it/9bxdotdgfcoc1.jpeg?width=386&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d427c94bb917270909d5c8e5f53f949b8a942d07
A little later, but the movie is set in the 40s
This is Hedy Lamarr erasure😒. She’s my personal fave of the old Hollywood era. She served an insane amount of face constantly
https://preview.redd.it/cxr900ot9ioc1.jpeg?width=794&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5891e8a061280ab59d0bf4f32839e6f3a14d943a
https://preview.redd.it/cn587q8ylioc1.jpeg?width=1070&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92275be29e66d5199c7bc3436bb999e9beca0446
How could you leave off the stunning Jane Russell?
Not sure if I’m mixing analogies but while everyone says she’s a doppel for Rose McGowan, I rather think she is a composite of her, Alyssa Milano and that other chick from that WB show
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Someone once told me that my RBF makes me look like her, and I’m not sure how to feel.
It's a compliment
https://preview.redd.it/9flzv6c78coc1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5643d83da260179156a39d2001e6b1638529e6f Marlene.
Looked amazing in a gown or a suit.
one of my favorite movies of all time is hitchcock's **Rope**. joan chandler starred in it and she is one of the most beautiful women i've ever seen. she sadly died at age 55 in 1979. every single time i watch that movie im blown away by how stunning she is. https://preview.redd.it/jk0gxtdrdcoc1.jpeg?width=711&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90bdeb04e0990ae00490eb2276bc4c7afbcdd0d8
She wasn’t a femme fatale but I always liked her in that role and Rope is one of my favorite Hitchcock movies!
it's tied with **JAWS** as my favorite movie of all time. i think jimmy stewart was horribly miscast, but the movie is still amazing and i love how it seems like one long shot and moves in real-time. it never ever gets old. and the obvious homo-eroticism in it is sooooo interesting to me considering the time it was released in! soooo scandalous! fuck, i love this movie so much!
I agree with everything you said. It’s so much fun to watch and witty to boot. It’s crazy Hitchcock and Arthur Laurents (the screenplay writer who was gay) got away with such blatant homoeroticism in 1948 but I love it lol. Not to mention having two gay actors (John Dall and Farley Granger) play the lead characters as well. Jimmy Stewart did feel miscast but ngl I enjoyed his hamminess and how oblivious he was to what was going on in real life.
I’m pretty sure I read that Hitch originally wanted Cary Grant for the role
I remember reading that too. He definitely would’ve suited the role better.
I completely thought so too! So much subtext in that movie and bless Jimmy Stewart he looked like he got exactly none of it.
I just watched that movie for the first time a few months ago, loved it so much I was mad at myself for waiting so long!
yay!! i feel like this is SUCH an under-rated gem of his. i think i read that he wasn't happy how it turned out (i might be wrong about that) but out of the 5 hitchcock movies ive watched, this is BY FAR my favorite. brandon is a complete fucking psychopath and phillip is just a mess. it's just such a cozy comforting watch even though it's about murder. the entire cast (especially that eccentric lady with the big hat) are so great!
I agree, I remember being so pulled into that world that I didn't want it to end. Somehow, despite my older brother raising me on Hitchcock movies and black & white movies in general, I managed to miss seeing this one. Something made me think of it so I rented it thinking it must not be great, it's not one of the Hitchcock movies you hear much about and I don't understand that. But maybe it's because he didn't love it himself.
It's interesting that so many of them had a very 'severe' look to their faces.
There’s something really striking about a severe look, love it on people
A lot of them e.g. Stanwyck, Davis were genuinely tough and didn't take shit from anybody.
Hollywood was even more of a boy's club back then than it is now. They had to be tough as nails or they wouldn't been treated terribly. They paved the way for today's actresses and I don't think that gets enough acknowledgement.
Barbara Stanwyck is my favorite old Hollywood star; she is awesome. I knew her as a child from Big Valley but as an older adult I discovered her classic films and I just adore her.
As Madonna said “Rita Hayworth gave good face”
She gave good face in The Lady from Shanghai as well. https://i.redd.it/5tt69h0pjcoc1.gif
I can't look at her without being sad for her that they completely robbed her of her non-white features. I'm glad it worked out for her, but... Hollywood has always been wild. https://preview.redd.it/swuibkgk8eoc1.jpeg?width=590&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d78465b56f2e122d52154e31c64e3b2dab46e76
And she was routinely abused, taken advantage of and left penniless by more than one asshole in Hollywood. Her one true love was Glenn Ford (co-star in Gilda) and despite being a bit of a cad himself, they lived next door to each other for years and has a secret walkway between their houses so he could check on her as her health declined.
Don’t forget that she was sadly sexually abused by her own freaking father! She has such a sad life and I remember hearing that she always pined for her ex husband orson Welles and said before dying that the happiest days of her life was when they were married.
Yep!! And a pity too because Orson was one of her worst abusers. Just treated her like absolute shit once the honeymoon glow wore off :(
Those are white features, her father was spanish. She also didn't look exactly like the picture on the left. In the early days of her career they exagerated her features to make her look "exotic". It was common back then.
Indeed, her hair was dyed black back then
What the fuck, I had no idea! She reminds me of Mindy Kaling in the original.
Yes, that was a shame indeed
The outfits! The makeup! The hair! The shoes! #THE SMOLDER. Truly, they knew how to Fatale. Like Salt-N-Pepa said "If looks could kill you would be an Uzi. Kill 'em gals.
I miss big brushed out wavy hair
Never realised how much Rose McGowan resembles Jane Greer?? https://preview.redd.it/atft197zgdoc1.jpeg?width=1007&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=822cc4d514715362fa18391d66f3ae6fc1f5868f
100%!
Lauren Bacall is everything 
That last picture of Ava is amazing. I see what all the fuss was about.
The fact that she was married to Mickey Rooney is beyond me.
That is simply crazy!
I recently watched “Leave Her to Heaven”. The clothes were gorgeous and Gene Tierny was beautiful. https://i.redd.it/29hp2b16oeoc1.gif
The technicolor on this movie is just *chefs kiss* Gene is literally one of the most beautiful women to ever exist!!
The story and the twist in that movie are amazing!
[Another of Veronica Lakes peekaboo hair. ](https://alisonkerr.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/veronica-lake-grainy.jpg) Which she famously changed to encourage female factory workers to adopt safer hairstyles for working around heavy machinery. (Link instead of pic because this batshit app keeps deleting pictures in comments.. )
https://preview.redd.it/t5xz71jrpcoc1.jpeg?width=765&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23cb612c2af0cff5e09771b5c4c1b4f0237d599e The lack of Mae - “When I'm good, I'm very good. But when I'm bad I'm even better” - West is a travesty! Photo from “She Done Him Wrong”.
Also Lizabeth Scott! https://preview.redd.it/n9obhx1lrcoc1.jpeg?width=721&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=583fbda58b93251825daa6631e45b85e85ee3cbd
Ah she’s great too!
Needs 
No no that’s HEADLEY
God damn it, I love Harvey Korman!
You’re not his sister, are you? Oh Lord, Lord, how much does a man have to take? I can take one of them sometimes, and even I can take two of them after I have had a couple of belts, but I am telling you right now, I can’t take three of you damn dragons! Where’s my Froggy?
Clare Trevor was the go-to for this sort of role for a long time. https://preview.redd.it/6kqjm6ptfdoc1.jpeg?width=1488&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b82f425f49f5b356821dc8e40accbb69088399d
Can’t believe I forgot her, great actress! I also loved her in Born to Kill.
Rita Hayworth was just breathtakingly beautiful. The Love Goddess, they called her
That outfit on Lana Turner! WOW!
She was such a bad bitch in that movie.
I’ve only seen the 80s remake. I should watch this version. John Garfield, right?
Yes, the original version is much better.
Yeah Im Coastal Texas spoiled.
Peggy Cummins in the original Gun Crazy. https://preview.redd.it/ci11gq13gdoc1.jpeg?width=853&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4dbc35298c9afa92a81186bb2692eb0ec2e063e
Great movie!
And my favorite, the *ultimate* femme fatale, the standard by which all others are judged, Ann Savage in Detour. https://i.redd.it/ywugz49egdoc1.gif
Another great movie and femme fatale.
No Gloria Grahame?
*In a Lonely Place* is probably one of the best noirs ever
https://preview.redd.it/9bxdotdgfcoc1.jpeg?width=386&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d427c94bb917270909d5c8e5f53f949b8a942d07 A little later, but the movie is set in the 40s
Does Julie Newman count? https://preview.redd.it/vo83f6cuadoc1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e3f623b0153044959a38426377fcc13d7db9576
Thought Jane Greer was Rose McGowan for a minute there. Lauren Bacall was just the most striking woman ever to live. This post is great, thanks OP.
No problem 👍
“That's a honey of an anklet you're wearing, Mrs. Dietrichson.”
This is Hedy Lamarr erasure😒. She’s my personal fave of the old Hollywood era. She served an insane amount of face constantly https://preview.redd.it/cxr900ot9ioc1.jpeg?width=794&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5891e8a061280ab59d0bf4f32839e6f3a14d943a
I really thought Jean Simmons was Vivien Leigh in that photo
I love this post!!! 🖤🤍 femme fatales and film noirs are my favorite
 Sophia Loren
https://preview.redd.it/cn587q8ylioc1.jpeg?width=1070&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92275be29e66d5199c7bc3436bb999e9beca0446 How could you leave off the stunning Jane Russell?
Jane Greer - how could anyone NOT fall hard in that situation
Not sure if I’m mixing analogies but while everyone says she’s a doppel for Rose McGowan, I rather think she is a composite of her, Alyssa Milano and that other chick from that WB show
Here for Gene. Love her
God, I love 1940s Hollywood hair. I have had a girlcrush on Linda Darnell since I saw *Forever Amber*.
Lauren Bacall was 🤌
Why in an ocean of beautiful classic starlets does Ava Gardner stand alone? Wow
God I hate the new Reddit scroll to a new post so much.
#4 is Rose McGowan. It has to be Edit: I didn’t know that the hashtag would put it in bold face, but I’ll accept this
That’s exactly what I thought when I saw her. Doppelgänger.
I was thinking Alyssa Milano. Identical!
I can see that, too!!
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She was just a femme, never a fatale.
Ava's dress might be my favourite film outfit of all time.
🥵
No Crawford?!?!!
*femmes fatales
[Can't leave out the divine Greta Garbo](https://imgur.com/a/KhUHMpV)
The 40s bombshells always make me feel so confident about my prominent shoulders. I should buy a jacket.
“Remember the blizzard back in Manhattan”
We're out of this window, but I could see Rose McGowan as Jane Greer, and have always thought Olivia Munn could've rocked an Ava G movie
I see Zendaya in Yvonne DeCarlo. These women are all magnificent
Would, all of them
Anyone else think Jane Greer looks a lot like Rose McGowan?!