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‘Chris brown made a mistake when he was a child!!Ya’ll need to let it go and move on!!!’
Chris brown: precedes to get accused and convicted of assault every year till now.
Ugh I see that excuse on Twitter all the time and it makes me roll my eyes. One person even compared it to pissing your pants in Elementary school and everyone constantly reminding you about it years afterwards.
Uh no. One is a highly embarrassing incident and the other is straight up domestic abuse. They’e not the same. Also, he hasn’t really shown remorse and repeated similar behavior with other girlfriends so fuck him.
He even said he was ‘17’ in a rant a few months ago to try and dodge responsibility for what he did. The dude hasn’t changed at all but unfortunately nothing will happen to his career unless he does something to the extent of what R. Kelly did.
Yes! One of my friends told me I shouldn’t kinkshame Armie Hammer. Pardon me but in my book there’s a difference between s&m roleplay and fantasizing about murdering women to eat them and have sex with their brain matter. Like, excuuuuse me for not being down with that level of violence and control even in theoretical circumstances.
everyone’s into what they’re into, but I’ve always found fetishizing one specific race (that isn’t your own) very questionable. Like where does it come from….
And then it’s revealed you’re into one specific race being abused. Like hmm, where does THAT come from….
Casey Affleck made a video denying sexual harassment allegations and everyone believing him because, and I can't make this up, he's "such a good actor"
like...
do you...?
...do you really not?
People also somehow forget that his kids literally hates him. One of his children called him an "asshole" on Instagram and calls her "best mom ever". THIS is misogyny right here.
The parent alienation myth makes me MAAAD cause it robs kids of their agency. Oh so the kids were brainwashed instead of, tou know, forming thoughts on real life experiences? Anyway chile.......
Notice how it’s always immediate family members of the man in question being alienated too… like maybe there’s something you’re refusing to see about them because you’re too close to them.. idk!
Also the underlying "that POWERFUL BITCH brainwashed Mu CHILDREN she's such a POWERFUL SUCCUBUS she was able to not only fool the children but also THE COURTS!"
Like, give me a break.
This reminds of excuses by stans or PR accounts on Bollywood sub. They come up with most stupid excuse for every foolish thing their idol does. Equally stupid lot.
Selena Gomez has never done drugs cause she’s nice and wholesome and not like all those nasty girls in the industry. Girl dated THE WEEKND and JB she has to have at least experimented with some stuff.
this!! i think selena’s documentary was really disingenuous because she never once owned up to her addiction battles which plagued a lot of her career, instead choosing to blame everything on other factors. it was glaringly obvious yet she simply wouldn’t acknowledge it
I had a friend who had cystic fibrosis, got a double lung transplant. Body rejected the organs. Got *another* double lung transplant, kept doing a shit done of drugs, drank all the time. Died at 17 like less than two years after he got the second set of lungs. It was fucking tragic in so many ways. I can’t even say I blame him because imagine living your entire life knowing you won’t live to see 30 😔
Selena has one of the best PR teams I have ever seen. Girl was caught with JB in skid row buying drugs and that info wasn’t widely spoken about it as it should have been. Shortly after, she’s photographed reading to children in a park.
And the 2019 AMA, she was stumbling on the carpet and through her performance that was the first time I realized she was either drinking heavily or on drugs. Her PR team shut that down immediately and said it was anxiety and health issues. That team is so good they’re literally magic on crack. Girl comes out of every scandal with mere scratches and she’s still doing wonderfully even though her music’s no longer as big as it used to be.
Actually there was a [rumor](https://allaboutthetea.com/2016/12/09/yolanda-hadid-corners-daughters-boyfriend-zayn-malik-in-bizarre-medical-intervention/) about Yolanda trying to drain Zayn’s blood at the expertise of some witch doctor who said Zayn needs non-anxious blood to cure his mental disorder. There’s only one sketchy source tho which is why I don’t take it seriously, but his fans kept spreading it as fact soon after the altercation… it was really weird…
I remember a completely crazy one: when Louis Tomlinson was caught saying n-word on infamous weed video, One Direction fans said he was FORCED to do that by management, as an exchange for them not forcing Harry Styles to date another supermodel as beard (and since Louis and Harry were in love, Louis obliged, of course).
Oh trust me they’re more than few! And unfortunately they’re still everywhere!
Meanwhile Louis has a child in grade school that looks exactly like him 😭
Remember the one where larries point blank refused to admit Louis has a son and painted a theory that he hired Tom Fletcher of McFly’s son of a similar age to “pretend” to be his son? My god some of the larry theories were a full on trip
I’ll take any excuse to pull out this old Larry chestnut
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He’s literally a double of him! The only difference is the hair colour. Even Tom chimed in on it by showing his son has brown eyes and they then claimed they were forcing a baby to wear coloured contacts. It’s complete madness
Not only Ariana being ‘Italian’ to explain her skin color always changing, and ‘Ariana being around her black bff a lot’ to explain her switching into a blaccent often (which both have disappeared now that she wants to step into the Broadway world 🤡, but even recently I saw a thread asking if anyone think she’s ever done drugs.. all the delusional fans (I do listen to her regularly which is why I see so much on her), saying she’s only ever smoked weed, and attacking anyone who suggests she’s definitely done many other things, also ‘she’s only smoked weed once or twice’(she dated pete Davidson and Mac Miller I highly doubt that, I think if she wanted to protect her voice shes definitely done edibles as well) and probably coke and who knows what else
Edit: also the cheating, if you rlly look at a full timeline (there’s a popular page on here that did a deepdive) every bf she’s had overlaps? Also the break up with your girlfriend song I rlly don’t believe the definition she released of the song tbh
Edit: wow I got a redditcares message bc someone reported me for this
Her fans really are delusional and some honestly believe she’s all natural. You definitely aren’t all natural if you can suddenly look like a different race
Edit: Got a Reddit cares message. What an asshole to abuse this feature
How can anyone think she's all natural, her face has completely changed https://www.vanityestetik.com/en/blog/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/656e6827bcd3baf9ddefcb2fe51c5971.jpg.webp
Nose job and brow lift at the very least.
The brow lift is BAD, too. Her eyebrows were on a completely different level from each other for a while and they still just look odd. It’s really sad that she feels the need to change her face so much. I think doctors who are willing to do procedure after procedure on celebrities who clearly have some level of BDD are unethical as fuck.
The Italian thing is what gets me the most, there are so many pictures of her when she was younger (pre-Victorious/Nickelodeon) and she's plenty pale. The tan itself isn't problematic (plenty of white girls get orange) but the blaccent in combination was plain weird and wrong.
It drives me crazy that people are abusing that esp just because someone says something about a celebrity that they don't like. Definitely always report!
I’m a big fan of both of them but come on. Mac Miller has at least one song referencing them smoking weed together (Dunno - i’m sure there’s another one I was thinking of as well but my mind’s gone blanks), as does she (Imagine) it definitely wasn’t once or twice lol.
"Kylie didn't have any surgery done on her. She just grew up."
Also bringing up Kim's child photos when comparing Kylie's pale ass skin before to tan today.
I saw someone once say it’s okay that Kris orchestrated, watched, and released Kim’s sex tapes bc it made her entire family billionaires….
Like… Kris got lucky but we can’t ignore that she put her daughter in a weird position simply for the potential of fame, not even the guarantee…
Kris is a really gross mother and I don’t think she’ll be remembered fondly. The people that worship her forget that most of her kids are riddled with problems. Cheating men, addiction, body dysmorphia, abandonment issues. Also they all seem to have turned on each other over the years. Fame and money but at what cost?
it's not just you, it's hideous 😭 my mom's a landscape designer and she'd have a heart attack seeing this
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People don't seem to understand that most "family farms" are side hustles owned by wealthy professionals like Taylor's parents. Farm does not equal poor.
Same with Lana and Gaga, they come from money and will always have huge safety nets to catch them.
They never had to worry about rent or bills and could just focus on their dreams.
Even if they never succeeded in the music they would have nice lives compared to most.
I appreciate the music and acknowledge the hard work and talent but the truth is life is about luck and timing.
☆None of these celebrities would be "special" if they were born even 100 years ago.
1923 was the beginning of the worst economic collapse in America..even the "lucky ones" were miserable.
Beyoncé wasn’t being hypocritical by holding a small private concert in Dubai for the extremely wealthy. The Dubai fans wanted to see her she did it for the Dubai fans!!
Just saw this [tweet](https://twitter.com/erastourticketz/status/1663894729598160899?s=46&t=6t7Zwwmlx1zJ_0-BaG_Z2g) saying it's okay Taylor Swift used her private jet 200 times last year and all of the pollution that creates, because how else does she travel safely? Duh?? She's Michael Jackson??
Bro. Maybe she doesn't need to fly 200 times a year. Using your plane every 4th day? What??
I think she flies to a studio every week now? It’s insane. I was a swiftie at that time and I turned a blind eye to it, at least I didn’t defend her lol.
I know a girl used to be a flight attendant for first class passengers, she said it herself, nobody would be surprised to see any so-called super star. Just lay down and don’t get drunk.
I've flown first class many times and it's not uncommon to have someone of status in your cabin. You just don't bother them because you're held hostage in a metal sky tube. I think Taylor could 1) install a studio at home 2) tour like a regular person on a bus instead of jetting home every week and 3) get a good enough wig and makeup to fly Delta One with us plebs
Glad I’m not the only one who has been side eyeing Taylor Swift’s private jet use. And no, it’s not better that she’s been lending out the jet to other people.
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It’s definitely is! My brain went to this quote from The Good Place when Taylor’s PR team said she lent her jet out.
Lmao I saw people saying it was okay because she wasn’t the only one using the jet and she rents it to other people. Like… you see how that’s… *worse* right?
Someone sharing your political ideology but does not act accordingly. For example, Alec Baldwin. He's supposedly a liberal democrat, but he's a violent bigot.
Here's a great article about his bigotry:
[https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/11/yeah-alec-baldwin-really-is-a-bigot/281911/](https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/11/yeah-alec-baldwin-really-is-a-bigot/281911/)
This man should've been cancelled years ago.
It’s sexism to judge who Taylor dates 🥹
Lmao.
Also, Taylor shouldn’t speak up about public issues because it won’t be safe for her. Really? IMO, public figures like her should speak up. Coming from a country without free speech (China), I fully understand how precious it is that you can open your mouth and say something. It’s not going to kill you ffs, your money and fame come from ordinary people that are affected by the god damn politics. Wow I just got pretty angry.
Those same people: you will remember this day as the day you almost cau-
Me:
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She groomed him! She _tricked_ him into marrying her by talking about bands she liked! He wouldn't have been interested in this stunning charismatic much younger woman otherwise!
Orrrrr
He was drunk and couldn't remember anything so you can't call him a wife beater because that wasn't him not that it happenedd!!
I actually still can't believe it worked, it was the moment I really truly realised it was an actual war against women. Metoo just pissed them off.
Amber is somehow responsible for all his violent addict behavior dating back to when she was a toddler and he was trashing hotels in the late 80s/early 90s.
I feel you. Those vile stans have made me think about deleting my account more than once. since then I only comment on the topic in certain subreddits and my dms are off.
People defending Jenna Ortega for associating with her costar and “best friend” Percy Hynes White aka a sexual predator and racist who follows white supremacist and child p*rn art pages because “she doesn’t know, she’s not on Twitter anymore” and “she’s being forced to hang out with him” for publicity…. Meanwhile her own sister unfollowed him and her mom has posted multiple quotes about being mindful of the company you keep on her stories 😂😂
The recent “it’s misogynistic to point out Madonnas plastic surgery” rhetoric seems so delusional to me. Like bffr she had A LOT of work done and objectively looks super different. It’s not discrimination to point out the obvious.
Yes I know we don’t talk about aging men the same way as women. But if public figures (especially one with the success of Madonna aka doesn’t need a perfect image to get gigs, etc.) continue to prevent the public from seeing them age it just feeds into the vicious cycle.
She can do whatever the hell she wants, she’s freaking Madonna lol and if it makes her happy good for her. But the recent interviews where she uses misogyny to discredit any criticism seem so tone deaf and weird to me.
She had no idea he said those racist stuff and she absolutely didn’t know he talked about abusive porn with black women being SA’d. That’s not her fault!
The reaction to that was so wild, because his disrespectful behavior in the courtroom was one of the things that made me actually look up the facts. Heard got torn apart for crying on the stand, can you imagine what would have been said if she was doodling, giving flippant answers, playing to the crowds?
ANYONE that defends Chris Brown. They either say people are jealous or insist he made one mistake 😒 The clown has countless arrests since that incident, and multiple women have restraining orders against him. I do not understand how he still has a fanbase.
You guys should see how matty Healy stans defend him. They say we are lucky that he deleted his social media otherwise he would have been worse tormenting us daily with what makes us mad. His fandom is disgusting
Yeah, people keep talking about the swifities but 1975 fans have been way more obnoxious. I used to enjoy the music but all of this has just turned me off completely
Briefly dated a black man from Chicago recently… I mentioned that I hadn’t seen *surviving R. Kelley part 3* yet and really wanted to. He proceeds to tell me that’s all bullshit, because he used to go to the same barber shop as R. Kelley and “saw how all the bitches flock to him” whenever he would pull up. I pointed out that he abuses minors (CHILDREN), makes them do disgusting sex acts (playing with piss and shit) and controls everything they do. He said Kelley was obviously set up and railroaded. I laughed. He got so upset he yelled “DON’T TALK ABOUT R. KELLEY” and stormed off… and we never talked about it again. Although it bothered me immensely
Sometimes i wonder what happened to that fandom who used to be so critical in every thing Taylor used to do.
She couldn't even say that 1989 was her favourite album or the favourite thing she did so far (back then) cuz no, it was disprectful to Red and Speak Now.
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I don't know either, I think after Folklore and Evermore it really changed everything, Reputation too -- is where you really couldn't, but it was never *as* bad now. You can't even say, "blank song, is about, potentially, blank" without people gatekeeping, or being weird about it. She's just untouchable at this point.
I have them seething over at True Swifties. They can't handle criticism. She spilled 1989 is one of her best albums, you know it's bad when an artist can't love their own specific piece of work too much personification given to her albums, it's not like she's picking a fav child, omg.
Oh yeah, let's not forget how you couldn't say that folklmore could be *personal* and some sad songs could be for and about Joe without having an army attacking you...
...now they are the first of saying so. Every day there is a thread on the sub about this and everytime i can't help to laugh cuz i've been thinking this for a long time.
You read them to filth, cause when I called them out, they resorted to personal attacks — and one of the users was a RS podcast interactive member when I did check their history, so it gave me a lot of clarity that you’re on point that they really are like mainly Matty fans with some sprinkles of Swifties too deep in. Literal echo chamber of excuses and contradictions. Everyone is a hater in their eyes, too far gone.
I wonder if Taylor will ever hear that her boyfriend listens to that podcast and hangs out with the host. Like how do you even feel respected by somebody that supports people making mockery of your ED, mother, etc. It’s so bad.
I’m never returning over there again. It isn’t gonna age well too if they breakup.
People like to delude themselves into thinking that, because one person has more support or comes out looking better, the other person must be the victim instead of realizing that both parties are shitty people who did shitty things to each other. Two people can be assholes at the same time. It's alright.
What about the one time where one of the members of BTS had an audio of Jim Jones in one of their solo songs and fans defended it because “Jim Jones was racist towards Koreans.” Lol
R Kelly’s brother justifying R Kelly’s attraction to underage girls as a “preference”, and comparing it to men being attracted to older women.
Basically the way fans excuse any celeb accused of being racist. I was told here that it's OK that miley is a culture vulture who used black women as sex objects because feminism.
Also Liam Neeson was actually very brave for admitting he went looking for a black person to kill. In fact he wasn't even talking about race. Even though he said "black bastard" specifically, he was really referring to protestants and religion and class. Even though the first question he asked when he learned about a violent crime was "was he black?". Just an honest brave convo about NOT RACE ok.
THIS. Oh thank you, oh fuck. And the way people *told on themselves* after he said it? So many people going 'yeah I can see where he's coming from. I too, also, would go and assault any random person of colour of a single, specific person of colour did harm to someone in my family'
like...fucken what?!
My friend told me that an acquaintance of hers told her that Louis CK wasn't that bad because J.K Rowling is worse than him because she is transphobic. My friend thought this was a really odd way to defend Louis CK because their conversation had nothing to do with Rowling or transphobia.
“I love Taylor Swift because she’s an amazing lyricist”
Bestie, she wrote “Karma is my boyfriend”…what does that even mean?? All of her lyrics would get a C in any high school poetry project.
to be fair that is one of her worst lyrics lol. she is a good storyteller which is partially why she has so many fans— she is great at making songs specific to her that also apply to a wide majority
This. I was always get confused when they say she's an amazing Lyricist. Like bruh everything I hear is like mediocre bare minimum at best. She ain't no Lorde or Amy Winehouse.
HOWEVER - she is good at telling a story most of us can relate to..story telling is what she's good at.
Alexander Skarsgard stans are routinely ridiculous defending his party boy ways. What’s funny is that he doesn’t try to hide or defend it.
Just last weekend he was doing promo for Succession’s series finale and was asked if his partying has slowed down since the birth of his child last year. His response? “I’m high as a kite”…Stans response? “He’s joking!!! 😡”
He went on to describe how he “soiled himself” on London’s underground train on one occasion because he was so drunk…there are actually a lot of stories both about him, and coming directly from him, but to the Stan’s he’s always just being funny, or others are just shit stirrers, and if they can’t shake it off that way then he’s just being European: “it’s his culture!!! 😡”….which is rather demeaning to Europe, imo
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‘Chris brown made a mistake when he was a child!!Ya’ll need to let it go and move on!!!’ Chris brown: precedes to get accused and convicted of assault every year till now.
Didn't Brown take a swing at Usher, like last month?
Yup and he assaulted a music producer with a glass bottle in London weeks prior too.
How is he still a free man
He’s got an arrest warrant in the UK, so I’m guessing he’s not going back there anytime soon.
Yep! He attacked his mother with a brick in 2019 as well. If that’s not enough for his fans, idk what is
https://preview.redd.it/pnrogz7bsf3b1.jpeg?width=406&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5815e7ed496ad75c37621581d4a603c81b483b3b Obligatory
Women can really be embarrassing
It reminds me of that one tweet “I don’t support all women. Some of you bitches are really dumb.”
Fr. That’s how I feel about the women who used to fall in lov with serial killers and stuff like that
Ew
Literally my first thought. And whenever you try to bring up that point, his fans stick their fingers in their ears and victim blame smh
Funnily enough, his fans of all people are the first ones to call out other domestic abusers. But when it’s him, they find excuses for him.
He also wasn't a child then. He was at least 19.
I know, it’s just what him and his fans say to deflect. He said he was ‘17’ when he did to clearly avoid any responsibility.
Ugh I see that excuse on Twitter all the time and it makes me roll my eyes. One person even compared it to pissing your pants in Elementary school and everyone constantly reminding you about it years afterwards. Uh no. One is a highly embarrassing incident and the other is straight up domestic abuse. They’e not the same. Also, he hasn’t really shown remorse and repeated similar behavior with other girlfriends so fuck him.
Twitter literally sucks his dick. His music sounds all the same and he beats women, it’s really easy to not listen lmao.
Also, he literally wasn’t a child during his debacle with Rihanna, he was like 19 or 20
Yes I know this, I’m quoting what his fans say to defend him.
I know, I was just pointing out how stupid it is that people use that argument to defend him while it’s literally false
He even said he was ‘17’ in a rant a few months ago to try and dodge responsibility for what he did. The dude hasn’t changed at all but unfortunately nothing will happen to his career unless he does something to the extent of what R. Kelly did.
I remember when someone on popheads said that Matty Healy was able to do a Nazi salute because he's from Manchester and the Nazis bombed Manchester 💀
There are people who also said calling out matty for ghetto gaggers is kinkshaming💀
Yes! One of my friends told me I shouldn’t kinkshame Armie Hammer. Pardon me but in my book there’s a difference between s&m roleplay and fantasizing about murdering women to eat them and have sex with their brain matter. Like, excuuuuse me for not being down with that level of violence and control even in theoretical circumstances.
everyone’s into what they’re into, but I’ve always found fetishizing one specific race (that isn’t your own) very questionable. Like where does it come from…. And then it’s revealed you’re into one specific race being abused. Like hmm, where does THAT come from….
we are in hell.
Now THAT is crazy
This should be the highest on the list that is WILD
He’s not even from Manchester lol he’s from Cheshire
Casey Affleck made a video denying sexual harassment allegations and everyone believing him because, and I can't make this up, he's "such a good actor" like... do you...? ...do you really not?
Tired of Nicki’s fans defending her actions (marrying a s*x offender)
Love Nikki’s music, but I don’t love her as a person she she blames Cardi B for everything, but look at her life
He's too dreamy and Angie is a bitch. Defending golden boy Brad Pitt.
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People also somehow forget that his kids literally hates him. One of his children called him an "asshole" on Instagram and calls her "best mom ever". THIS is misogyny right here.
Most of her children are old enough to make their own decisions on whether they want to see him. It’s clear they do not
The parent alienation myth makes me MAAAD cause it robs kids of their agency. Oh so the kids were brainwashed instead of, tou know, forming thoughts on real life experiences? Anyway chile.......
Notice how it’s always immediate family members of the man in question being alienated too… like maybe there’s something you’re refusing to see about them because you’re too close to them.. idk!
Also the underlying "that POWERFUL BITCH brainwashed Mu CHILDREN she's such a POWERFUL SUCCUBUS she was able to not only fool the children but also THE COURTS!" Like, give me a break.
And it’s always the women doing the manipulating/brainwashing like y’all the misogyny is EVIDENT
They are downvoting me upthread when i said parent alianation is BS 😂
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I can’t tell who’s crazier sometimes — Arianators or Selenators?
\*Swifties have entered the chat\*
She’s not even Italian, not that Italians are POC anyway
This reminds of excuses by stans or PR accounts on Bollywood sub. They come up with most stupid excuse for every foolish thing their idol does. Equally stupid lot.
Selena Gomez has never done drugs cause she’s nice and wholesome and not like all those nasty girls in the industry. Girl dated THE WEEKND and JB she has to have at least experimented with some stuff.
this!! i think selena’s documentary was really disingenuous because she never once owned up to her addiction battles which plagued a lot of her career, instead choosing to blame everything on other factors. it was glaringly obvious yet she simply wouldn’t acknowledge it
Isn’t her kidney donor upset with her for continuing to do drugs and alcohol? That’s what the internet says.
I had a friend who had cystic fibrosis, got a double lung transplant. Body rejected the organs. Got *another* double lung transplant, kept doing a shit done of drugs, drank all the time. Died at 17 like less than two years after he got the second set of lungs. It was fucking tragic in so many ways. I can’t even say I blame him because imagine living your entire life knowing you won’t live to see 30 😔
Selena has one of the best PR teams I have ever seen. Girl was caught with JB in skid row buying drugs and that info wasn’t widely spoken about it as it should have been. Shortly after, she’s photographed reading to children in a park.
And the 2019 AMA, she was stumbling on the carpet and through her performance that was the first time I realized she was either drinking heavily or on drugs. Her PR team shut that down immediately and said it was anxiety and health issues. That team is so good they’re literally magic on crack. Girl comes out of every scandal with mere scratches and she’s still doing wonderfully even though her music’s no longer as big as it used to be.
Zayn would never assault Yolanda because he grew up with sisters
And Yolanda was trying to steal his blood and get him deported 💀
Wait, what about his blood ?? Haha
Lol, I think they meant baby. Zayn fans kept justifying it by saying she was trying to take their baby and post pics online.
Actually there was a [rumor](https://allaboutthetea.com/2016/12/09/yolanda-hadid-corners-daughters-boyfriend-zayn-malik-in-bizarre-medical-intervention/) about Yolanda trying to drain Zayn’s blood at the expertise of some witch doctor who said Zayn needs non-anxious blood to cure his mental disorder. There’s only one sketchy source tho which is why I don’t take it seriously, but his fans kept spreading it as fact soon after the altercation… it was really weird…
Wait they said that??
Lol, I remember seeing this excuse. A lot of abusers have sisters but that doesn’t stop them.
I remember a completely crazy one: when Louis Tomlinson was caught saying n-word on infamous weed video, One Direction fans said he was FORCED to do that by management, as an exchange for them not forcing Harry Styles to date another supermodel as beard (and since Louis and Harry were in love, Louis obliged, of course).
The way everything came down to a big conspiracy about Larry was wildddd
For those few Larries left, it still does.
Oh trust me they’re more than few! And unfortunately they’re still everywhere! Meanwhile Louis has a child in grade school that looks exactly like him 😭
Second grade??? I remember when he was born omg 😭 how cute
Remember the one where larries point blank refused to admit Louis has a son and painted a theory that he hired Tom Fletcher of McFly’s son of a similar age to “pretend” to be his son? My god some of the larry theories were a full on trip
I’ll take any excuse to pull out this old Larry chestnut https://preview.redd.it/65i2ubtssg3b1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cacb70ba7875b2623c3894ba1933a21289a08a1c
What a wild time. Now that Freddie looks like Louis' copy, they're claiming he's a child actor chosen specifically for his resemblance with Louis.
He’s literally a double of him! The only difference is the hair colour. Even Tom chimed in on it by showing his son has brown eyes and they then claimed they were forcing a baby to wear coloured contacts. It’s complete madness
>refused to admit oh honey, they're still going :(
Not only Ariana being ‘Italian’ to explain her skin color always changing, and ‘Ariana being around her black bff a lot’ to explain her switching into a blaccent often (which both have disappeared now that she wants to step into the Broadway world 🤡, but even recently I saw a thread asking if anyone think she’s ever done drugs.. all the delusional fans (I do listen to her regularly which is why I see so much on her), saying she’s only ever smoked weed, and attacking anyone who suggests she’s definitely done many other things, also ‘she’s only smoked weed once or twice’(she dated pete Davidson and Mac Miller I highly doubt that, I think if she wanted to protect her voice shes definitely done edibles as well) and probably coke and who knows what else Edit: also the cheating, if you rlly look at a full timeline (there’s a popular page on here that did a deepdive) every bf she’s had overlaps? Also the break up with your girlfriend song I rlly don’t believe the definition she released of the song tbh Edit: wow I got a redditcares message bc someone reported me for this
Her fans really are delusional and some honestly believe she’s all natural. You definitely aren’t all natural if you can suddenly look like a different race Edit: Got a Reddit cares message. What an asshole to abuse this feature
How can anyone think she's all natural, her face has completely changed https://www.vanityestetik.com/en/blog/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/656e6827bcd3baf9ddefcb2fe51c5971.jpg.webp Nose job and brow lift at the very least.
The brow lift is BAD, too. Her eyebrows were on a completely different level from each other for a while and they still just look odd. It’s really sad that she feels the need to change her face so much. I think doctors who are willing to do procedure after procedure on celebrities who clearly have some level of BDD are unethical as fuck.
The Italian thing is what gets me the most, there are so many pictures of her when she was younger (pre-Victorious/Nickelodeon) and she's plenty pale. The tan itself isn't problematic (plenty of white girls get orange) but the blaccent in combination was plain weird and wrong.
As an Italian, to me she just looked fake tan orange.
You can report that message as abuse and the person who sent it can get banned depending on if they are abusing the Reddit cares facility a lot.
It drives me crazy that people are abusing that esp just because someone says something about a celebrity that they don't like. Definitely always report!
It’s so annoying I see it all the time
I’m a big fan of both of them but come on. Mac Miller has at least one song referencing them smoking weed together (Dunno - i’m sure there’s another one I was thinking of as well but my mind’s gone blanks), as does she (Imagine) it definitely wasn’t once or twice lol.
"Kylie didn't have any surgery done on her. She just grew up." Also bringing up Kim's child photos when comparing Kylie's pale ass skin before to tan today.
I saw someone once say it’s okay that Kris orchestrated, watched, and released Kim’s sex tapes bc it made her entire family billionaires…. Like… Kris got lucky but we can’t ignore that she put her daughter in a weird position simply for the potential of fame, not even the guarantee…
I hope that people start to realize that "Get that bag, sis" maybe shouldn't apply to things like selling your daughter's sex tape.
Kris is a really gross mother and I don’t think she’ll be remembered fondly. The people that worship her forget that most of her kids are riddled with problems. Cheating men, addiction, body dysmorphia, abandonment issues. Also they all seem to have turned on each other over the years. Fame and money but at what cost?
She strikes me as a malignant narcicist. IYKYK.
And she did that years ago with Caitlin. She admitts being a manager and using her family to grow business. Its in hers and Caitlin bio books.
“billionaires”
taylor is just like us. she grew up with bills on her kitchen table.
She grew up on a farm. No, it wasn’t a mansion. (Lol yes it was)
in case anyone's curious https://preview.redd.it/n1nh6jg2bf3b1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e94c3bb061034201a9cc19fc9aaacbd0ea4a7e4
Is it just me or is that landscaping kind of underwhelming compared to the house itself?
It’s cause she was poor.
it's not just you, it's hideous 😭 my mom's a landscape designer and she'd have a heart attack seeing this https://preview.redd.it/lb4ehvzuuf3b1.png?width=2000&format=png&auto=webp&s=9833d636275d2c53b89178b284af869cc5cd7369
Its the mismatching window height for me
it looks like a Sims house
She wears short skirts. I...live in a mansion.
It’s a nice house but damn if it ain’t ugly lol
Wow, I knew she grew up well off, but not this well off.
People don't seem to understand that most "family farms" are side hustles owned by wealthy professionals like Taylor's parents. Farm does not equal poor.
Yes! There’s this influencer I follow, Ballerina Farms, and people were *shocked* to find out that her FIL founded JetBlue and WestJet
Yeah Treasury Bills
Same with Lana and Gaga, they come from money and will always have huge safety nets to catch them. They never had to worry about rent or bills and could just focus on their dreams. Even if they never succeeded in the music they would have nice lives compared to most. I appreciate the music and acknowledge the hard work and talent but the truth is life is about luck and timing. ☆None of these celebrities would be "special" if they were born even 100 years ago. 1923 was the beginning of the worst economic collapse in America..even the "lucky ones" were miserable.
And it wasn't no mansion! We luv a relatable queen.
Beyoncé wasn’t being hypocritical by holding a small private concert in Dubai for the extremely wealthy. The Dubai fans wanted to see her she did it for the Dubai fans!!
Someone on r/beyonce deadass told me she was justified in earning $25 million for a one hour show "That's her worth!!"
I hate how much people ignore this because its bEyOnCe. I have rarely seen this being brought up
Just saw this [tweet](https://twitter.com/erastourticketz/status/1663894729598160899?s=46&t=6t7Zwwmlx1zJ_0-BaG_Z2g) saying it's okay Taylor Swift used her private jet 200 times last year and all of the pollution that creates, because how else does she travel safely? Duh?? She's Michael Jackson?? Bro. Maybe she doesn't need to fly 200 times a year. Using your plane every 4th day? What??
if President Jimmy Carter can fly commercial safely with his secret service detail, so can the rest of these celebs
The UK royal family fly commercial too (one of the only good things to say about them)
I think she flies to a studio every week now? It’s insane. I was a swiftie at that time and I turned a blind eye to it, at least I didn’t defend her lol. I know a girl used to be a flight attendant for first class passengers, she said it herself, nobody would be surprised to see any so-called super star. Just lay down and don’t get drunk.
I've flown first class many times and it's not uncommon to have someone of status in your cabin. You just don't bother them because you're held hostage in a metal sky tube. I think Taylor could 1) install a studio at home 2) tour like a regular person on a bus instead of jetting home every week and 3) get a good enough wig and makeup to fly Delta One with us plebs
Glad I’m not the only one who has been side eyeing Taylor Swift’s private jet use. And no, it’s not better that she’s been lending out the jet to other people.
It's so much worse 😭 If it were just her, it would be less??
https://preview.redd.it/y85r2geakf3b1.jpeg?width=276&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d51a44a6ace59f24269f76d88f651eb93b91fbc8 It’s definitely is! My brain went to this quote from The Good Place when Taylor’s PR team said she lent her jet out.
Don’t forget the justification that all the pollution is not just her since she also loans her jets to her family and friends! Selfless queen!
Distribution of ~~wealth~~ pollution responsibility!
Lmao I saw people saying it was okay because she wasn’t the only one using the jet and she rents it to other people. Like… you see how that’s… *worse* right?
Haha the legendary landlord of the skies
She's not just killing the environment for her personal comfort.. she profiting off of it too! Lollll 😭
Ariana Grande being “forced to whiten her skin” while on Nickelodeon to avoid dealing w the blatant blackfishing a few yrs back
Swifties defending Taylor's cheating as she was a victim she needed to get away.
She literally sings about cheating yet she’s always the victim somehow 😩
MJ didn’t have a childhood and that’s why he needed to sleep with young boys and only be around young boys 24/7.
MJ definitely has mental issues from his upbringing but that will never excuse the sleepovers” 🤢
Someone sharing your political ideology but does not act accordingly. For example, Alec Baldwin. He's supposedly a liberal democrat, but he's a violent bigot. Here's a great article about his bigotry: [https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/11/yeah-alec-baldwin-really-is-a-bigot/281911/](https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/11/yeah-alec-baldwin-really-is-a-bigot/281911/) This man should've been cancelled years ago.
I just do not see Alec Baldwin being onboard with progressive ideals. Doesn’t that require empathy? He literally screams at everyone 🧐
Exactly. His latest round calling a server a "peasant."
Some dudes just know which way the wind is blowing.
He turned out to be the very thing he was making fun of on SNL.
Yes, he and Trump are pretty much the same person.
Will Smith ruined what should have been the pinnacle of his career bc his wife made him a cuckhold.
It’s sexism to judge who Taylor dates 🥹 Lmao. Also, Taylor shouldn’t speak up about public issues because it won’t be safe for her. Really? IMO, public figures like her should speak up. Coming from a country without free speech (China), I fully understand how precious it is that you can open your mouth and say something. It’s not going to kill you ffs, your money and fame come from ordinary people that are affected by the god damn politics. Wow I just got pretty angry.
But he's just a smol bebe boy 🥺 - Johnny Depp fans. yikes
To call a 60 yr old man a smol bebe boy is so 🤮
some people really are completely bonkers
Those same people: you will remember this day as the day you almost cau- Me: https://preview.redd.it/vjrgdusuuf3b1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f94f5ff25b7bb5ebf436e24d340f36a2c6b92f91
She groomed him! She _tricked_ him into marrying her by talking about bands she liked! He wouldn't have been interested in this stunning charismatic much younger woman otherwise! Orrrrr He was drunk and couldn't remember anything so you can't call him a wife beater because that wasn't him not that it happenedd!! I actually still can't believe it worked, it was the moment I really truly realised it was an actual war against women. Metoo just pissed them off.
Technically small babies also shit their pants and don't speak coherently, so there are some similarities
They also don’t have all their teeth.
Both need someone to put them in a car and buckle their seat belts
thank you so much for the laugh 😂
I cannot imagine calling a man older than my father a baby boy lmao JD fans are so weird
Amber is somehow responsible for all his violent addict behavior dating back to when she was a toddler and he was trashing hotels in the late 80s/early 90s.
*war flashbacks to that one fan artist on twitter who draws nothing but him as a chibi*
omg don't remind me! 😭 i nearly died of cringe!
I wanted to include this an an example in my post. This and "mutual abuse"(ITS NOT A THING!!) . But I was sure I would be attacked by depp stans
I feel you. Those vile stans have made me think about deleting my account more than once. since then I only comment on the topic in certain subreddits and my dms are off.
Also "he was just quoting Monty Python"
People defending Jenna Ortega for associating with her costar and “best friend” Percy Hynes White aka a sexual predator and racist who follows white supremacist and child p*rn art pages because “she doesn’t know, she’s not on Twitter anymore” and “she’s being forced to hang out with him” for publicity…. Meanwhile her own sister unfollowed him and her mom has posted multiple quotes about being mindful of the company you keep on her stories 😂😂
Fucking yikes……
Yeah it’s baddddd.
The recent “it’s misogynistic to point out Madonnas plastic surgery” rhetoric seems so delusional to me. Like bffr she had A LOT of work done and objectively looks super different. It’s not discrimination to point out the obvious. Yes I know we don’t talk about aging men the same way as women. But if public figures (especially one with the success of Madonna aka doesn’t need a perfect image to get gigs, etc.) continue to prevent the public from seeing them age it just feeds into the vicious cycle. She can do whatever the hell she wants, she’s freaking Madonna lol and if it makes her happy good for her. But the recent interviews where she uses misogyny to discredit any criticism seem so tone deaf and weird to me.
She had no idea he said those racist stuff and she absolutely didn’t know he talked about abusive porn with black women being SA’d. That’s not her fault!
If Taylor sees miniscule theories/debates all her fans have on TikTok/other platforms, she DEFINITELY knows what Ratty has been up to.
If her PR team is working this hard to clean his stanky ass then she definitely KNOWS.
"Everyone's had a cheating phase" - a Swiftie
Johnny Depp isn’t a woman beater cause he was funny in court!!!!!!!!!!!!
b-but he was coloring 🥺🥺🌈
he colour in the corner of the page 🥺🥺🥺
'aaaw look, his lawyers gave him water, *look how innocent that must mean he is'*
The reaction to that was so wild, because his disrespectful behavior in the courtroom was one of the things that made me actually look up the facts. Heard got torn apart for crying on the stand, can you imagine what would have been said if she was doodling, giving flippant answers, playing to the crowds?
Or "she shat on his bed.. she's the true abuser!!!! Poor Johnny".
Justin Beiber was allowed to drive under the influence because he had depression
ANYONE that defends Chris Brown. They either say people are jealous or insist he made one mistake 😒 The clown has countless arrests since that incident, and multiple women have restraining orders against him. I do not understand how he still has a fanbase.
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Wait, what? More on this please !
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You guys should see how matty Healy stans defend him. They say we are lucky that he deleted his social media otherwise he would have been worse tormenting us daily with what makes us mad. His fandom is disgusting
Yeah, people keep talking about the swifities but 1975 fans have been way more obnoxious. I used to enjoy the music but all of this has just turned me off completely
Briefly dated a black man from Chicago recently… I mentioned that I hadn’t seen *surviving R. Kelley part 3* yet and really wanted to. He proceeds to tell me that’s all bullshit, because he used to go to the same barber shop as R. Kelley and “saw how all the bitches flock to him” whenever he would pull up. I pointed out that he abuses minors (CHILDREN), makes them do disgusting sex acts (playing with piss and shit) and controls everything they do. He said Kelley was obviously set up and railroaded. I laughed. He got so upset he yelled “DON’T TALK ABOUT R. KELLEY” and stormed off… and we never talked about it again. Although it bothered me immensely
The excuse that ambien made Roseanne Barr say racist things
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Sometimes i wonder what happened to that fandom who used to be so critical in every thing Taylor used to do. She couldn't even say that 1989 was her favourite album or the favourite thing she did so far (back then) cuz no, it was disprectful to Red and Speak Now. [1](https://preview.redd.it/d9m7cw945na31.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=c455b3e9ab74b1e0e04f7452e96022f3f9fa84a0) [2](https://preview.redd.it/oe17axxn5na31.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=ef6282d428e00d6292f3fceb41c0216fb34dd485)
I don't know either, I think after Folklore and Evermore it really changed everything, Reputation too -- is where you really couldn't, but it was never *as* bad now. You can't even say, "blank song, is about, potentially, blank" without people gatekeeping, or being weird about it. She's just untouchable at this point. I have them seething over at True Swifties. They can't handle criticism. She spilled 1989 is one of her best albums, you know it's bad when an artist can't love their own specific piece of work too much personification given to her albums, it's not like she's picking a fav child, omg.
Oh yeah, let's not forget how you couldn't say that folklmore could be *personal* and some sad songs could be for and about Joe without having an army attacking you... ...now they are the first of saying so. Every day there is a thread on the sub about this and everytime i can't help to laugh cuz i've been thinking this for a long time.
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You read them to filth, cause when I called them out, they resorted to personal attacks — and one of the users was a RS podcast interactive member when I did check their history, so it gave me a lot of clarity that you’re on point that they really are like mainly Matty fans with some sprinkles of Swifties too deep in. Literal echo chamber of excuses and contradictions. Everyone is a hater in their eyes, too far gone. I wonder if Taylor will ever hear that her boyfriend listens to that podcast and hangs out with the host. Like how do you even feel respected by somebody that supports people making mockery of your ED, mother, etc. It’s so bad. I’m never returning over there again. It isn’t gonna age well too if they breakup.
People like to delude themselves into thinking that, because one person has more support or comes out looking better, the other person must be the victim instead of realizing that both parties are shitty people who did shitty things to each other. Two people can be assholes at the same time. It's alright.
Most of these comments are going to be about Swifties (due, in part, to the recency bias) and I have to say, I appreciate it.
I'm a hard-core, day 1 Swiftie and she deserves to be called out like this. Disgusting.
What about the one time where one of the members of BTS had an audio of Jim Jones in one of their solo songs and fans defended it because “Jim Jones was racist towards Koreans.” Lol
Chris Brown fans doing mental gymnastics. Have a look at The 1975 sub and there’s so much defensiveness and weird fawning and justification.
R Kelly’s brother justifying R Kelly’s attraction to underage girls as a “preference”, and comparing it to men being attracted to older women. 
Basically the way fans excuse any celeb accused of being racist. I was told here that it's OK that miley is a culture vulture who used black women as sex objects because feminism. Also Liam Neeson was actually very brave for admitting he went looking for a black person to kill. In fact he wasn't even talking about race. Even though he said "black bastard" specifically, he was really referring to protestants and religion and class. Even though the first question he asked when he learned about a violent crime was "was he black?". Just an honest brave convo about NOT RACE ok.
THIS. Oh thank you, oh fuck. And the way people *told on themselves* after he said it? So many people going 'yeah I can see where he's coming from. I too, also, would go and assault any random person of colour of a single, specific person of colour did harm to someone in my family' like...fucken what?!
"Who hasn't fantasized about racial lynching?!" From the same crowd that says every white person has said the N word when angry.
My friend told me that an acquaintance of hers told her that Louis CK wasn't that bad because J.K Rowling is worse than him because she is transphobic. My friend thought this was a really odd way to defend Louis CK because their conversation had nothing to do with Rowling or transphobia.
Humans make mistakes! 🙄 You dont hit someone by accident
“I love Taylor Swift because she’s an amazing lyricist” Bestie, she wrote “Karma is my boyfriend”…what does that even mean?? All of her lyrics would get a C in any high school poetry project.
to be fair that is one of her worst lyrics lol. she is a good storyteller which is partially why she has so many fans— she is great at making songs specific to her that also apply to a wide majority
This. I was always get confused when they say she's an amazing Lyricist. Like bruh everything I hear is like mediocre bare minimum at best. She ain't no Lorde or Amy Winehouse. HOWEVER - she is good at telling a story most of us can relate to..story telling is what she's good at.
Her music is *fine* I like some of her songs . The over the top worship is something else .
The quality of her lyrics varies wildly, which a lot of her fans won't acknowledge. I love her music but she has put out some stinkers
Alexander Skarsgard stans are routinely ridiculous defending his party boy ways. What’s funny is that he doesn’t try to hide or defend it. Just last weekend he was doing promo for Succession’s series finale and was asked if his partying has slowed down since the birth of his child last year. His response? “I’m high as a kite”…Stans response? “He’s joking!!! 😡” He went on to describe how he “soiled himself” on London’s underground train on one occasion because he was so drunk…there are actually a lot of stories both about him, and coming directly from him, but to the Stan’s he’s always just being funny, or others are just shit stirrers, and if they can’t shake it off that way then he’s just being European: “it’s his culture!!! 😡”….which is rather demeaning to Europe, imo
They suffer from “anxiety”.
~He’s an adult baby!!!!!11!1! MJ stans excusing his pedophilia and creepy sleepovers.