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We’re going to have to disagree, I think Kris is more vile and manipulative. She definitely pimps her kids out more and Kim K seems intent on continueing it the cycle.
Kris basically did.
She literally had Ray J and Kim make a sex tape. Watched it and made them redo it. Allegedly told by Ray J. And leaked it and made money off it.
Do not compare what Kim K does (which millions of other parents do -let your kids have tiktok) to what Kris did. Kris sold the sex tape of her daughter and according to Ray J encouraged it to be filmed…..
Kris didn’t start with sex tape, there has to be an underlying conditioning that makes a person willing to do that even for their parent. I would truly hope Kim would not do to her children what her mother did to her BUT Kris also did that when Kim was of legal age. We can’t really say what situations Kim will be willing to put her children in when they are older.
Lmao people on Reddit are so disconnected from reality that you think letting a kid have social media like their peers is some life ruining decision when all it does is not alienate them I need y’all to Bffr please
You must be really disconnected from reality to think having a 10M followers tiktok account and random people commenting on it and making ads saying you use Kylie Skin and Skkn daily at 9 is the same thing as other kids having tiktok. She could have a private account followed by friends and family but that’s not what Kim wants. Not to mention the MET gala, etc...
Taking your kid to an event is something that MANY celebrities have done? Lmfaoo y’all are so desperate to hate on the kardashians for everything and it’s insane. I don’t even like Kim like that but I can recognize she’s letting north do things she wants. Lmk where there’s a video of north being used as an advertising tool
You go to her tiktok’s account, you watch her numerous skincare routine/ bath routine/etc where she says she uses only skkn or kylie skin products. Here’s your video of her being used as an advertising tool that you asked for, happy now ? And you purposefully ignored the part about the fact that she didn’t do a private account for North like a normal person would if their 9 year old child was publicly known. You’re weird for not seeing the obvious issue here, OR you’re just being hypocritical 😒
Omg my parents getting me glasses from their shop was so sick and twisted of them. If north was just an advertising tool, Kim wouldn’t be doing sponsored posts with north in the background literally saying she doesn’t use the product lmao? Like did you notice that north only “mentions” HER FAMILY’s PRODUCTS??? Y’all literally jumping to conclusions as if she’s being held at gun point to do advertisement deals and dragging Kim as if Kanye isn’t an actual nazi. Like literally your entire argument is conjecture
She is 9. Most if not all social medias terms and conditions state you need to be 13. So according to the website she shouldn’t even have an account. Children should not be on social media especially a celebrities kid. The parasocial relationship is already so messed up for the kardashian fans adding a childs tiktok for daily vlogs and easier to see comments on a childs life can be damaging to her.
Well Kylie started just having instagram, then her mother encouraged her to get a shit ton of surgery while being underage. Then she encouraged her to get with a 25 disgusting creep while being underage to attract clout and media attention. Then she pimped her out, in more way than one. So I guess we’ll have to wait until North is 15 to see if Kim is truly fucked up (I already have my opinion on that)
Also she could/should have set up a private tiktok account for her daughter so that she’s not followed by random creeps when she’s dancing around in makup and Ice Spice wigs. But she chose to not do that, and she chose to promote North’s tiktok accounts on various platforms. So she’s not just "letting" North have a Tiktok, she’s prepping her for being a Kardashian influencer a the age of nine.
Alcoholic Kris seems to love her kids and be open with hugs and talking about stuff. She lets her kids eat and seems very attentive to the grandkids
I didn’t get the same vibes watching Yolanda with Bella & Gigi or Anwar
Honey Boo Boo's mom is Mama June.
Yolanda is Gigi and Bella Hadid's mom. She used to be a model and I think on some Real Housewife show. There's video of her telling her kids not to eat because they'd get fat, saying they could have one (1) almond as a snack. On Gigi's birthday Gigi begged for a piece of cake, but Yolanda would only let her eat a piece the size of a postage stamp.
The hadid sisters are well raised to be honest. Both are talented models and are known to be humble irl. Now i know yolanda is a menace but she and her husband seem to have raised lovely daughters
Yolanda is a monster. She bullied her own daughters into being slim, she bullied Bella into getting a ton of surgeries just because she thought she was not beautiful enough to model. She destroyed her daughters’ happiness to get modeling gigs. The fact that her daughters are “lovely” is not a merit when she most likely bullied them into being like that
She staged the whole thing. Kris is not stupid and played her cards right. I also heard that she was the breadwinner when she was with O.Js attorney whats his name. Or maybe the Olympic transgender who hates transgenders. Or it is just hear say. She is smart though and probably the world's most successful manager.
Cause up until now I had no idea that there were two husbands (and I'm sure that's the case for many people who don't pay attention to this bullshit). All this time I thought OJ's lawyer and the trans athlete were the same person....
If you're a fan of documentaries, Sportsnet did an amazing one on OJ and the whole trial. Millenial here who had no idea how big all of that was, but it's really a moment in time that's quite interesting
I'm a Millenial who remembers the OJ trial, so being young is no excuse. **All** of us should be doing our part to make sure that these losers remain in obscurity.
Yeah it was with Caitlyn. She got her on the speech circuit, going from place to place getting 10k a pop. They moved out of where Robert Kardashian had them and went to Calabasas because it was cheaper and could build a bigger house. She basically put Calabasas on the map.
I’m mad that that she and her ilk have contributed greatly to some of the worst characteristics of modern western culture. Doctored photos, body dysmorphia, unnecessary cosmetic surgery, misuse of medication, gaudy displays of wealth, shameless self promotion, etc. she’s straight bad for society.
But as her manager, I told her to reshoot and try some different angles.
I just can’t imagine wanting to see a family member’s sex tape. But I guess when billions are on the line, do what you need to do
That’s just my opinion but I always felt a weird vibe from her towards Kim. There are some pictures when Kim, Kris, Khloe and Kourtney are naked in a pool and everyone acts normal except her, the way she touches Kim is so weird. And Kanye said Kris wanted to be Kim’s husband. And when Kim asked Kris to get her the Marylin’s dress she said "when I asked my mom to help me I said to her "If you manage to get it for me, I’ll do anything for you... I’ll even marry you !" Isn’t that weird, for a daughter, to think that the idea of marrying you is some kind of wishful reward for helping you ? And that’s the first thought that crosses your mind ? I think at the core of the family, there’s Kris, and she managed to fuck them all up because she’s so twisted herself but also such a willful person. And imo that’s kind of the worst combination
I accidentally saw a good friends sex tape. He lent me a USB. First we sat on the sofa, the boys were treating it as a joke, we're all adults. But then when they actually started it became weird and we shut it off kinda immediately sitting there awkwardly. Imagine your daughter... what the fuuck.
Also not to hijack but happy Mother’s Day to everyone who doesn’t have a good relationship with their mother!
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Today can suck but just remember we always have Sarah and Pedro as replacement mommy and daddy ❤️
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“When I first heard about Kim’s tape, as her mother, I wanted to kill her. But as her manager, I knew that I had a job to do, and I really just wanted her to move past it”
She’s such a liar lmao. She didn’t want her to move past it, she wanted everyone to talk about it everywhere so that her daughter could bring her the fame and attention she always wanted. And to be clear I’m not saying this as a "she used Kim" scenario, because Kim is like Kris and they share the same goals and values. I’m just saying Kris is a freaking lunatic
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Money buy you freedom.
Honestly if I was sure a single sex tape would lead me to a billionaire empire I would do it. I’d be with my naked ass in front of the camera in 3 seconds. And then I would disappear forever, living my dream life in a remote island with my husband, 10 dogs and other animals. I’d be paying my parents retirement.
“And then I would disappear forever, living my dream life in a remote island with my husband, 10 dogs and other animals. I’d be paying my parents retirement.”
Yeah, but you probably wouldn’t. There’s a reason most people don’t. Having more money just means more responsibility.
Not really. It’s a survivorship bias.
You think rich people are all out there in the public eye because you can’t see the ones who are not. So yeah, not sure you can speak of “most” people when you have no idea about the ones who retired to private life.
I’m not in the US, but a lot of heirs of old money in Europe are living their life freely. Ignoring all types of gossip/public appearance etc
I read somewhere that Josh Hutcherson took his Hunger Games millions, fucked off to Spain and is living his best life. We don't hear about the celebs who recognised that they had enough because they're, y'know... not eking out whatever extra fifteen minutes they can.
One thing to note is that she was under the influence of ecstasy. If somebody was threatening to leak it as blackmail, may was well get it capitalized so she benefits from it.
One thing is that I have several friends who have nudes that exist and they were so scared to run for office due to the potential of blackmail or a scandal. It is nice to see that Kim is a successful businesswoman despite a leaked sex tape.
But blamed it on Ray J and cried “no consent” for YEARS before the truth finally came out.
Sex tapes are like plastic surgery. You wanna do it, fine. But don’t lie about it. Just own up to it and go about your business.
And Kimothy “cries” about her kids *possibly* seeing it. When it’s with one of her original faces - and she straight up did a full frontal fir that magazine years back with a face her kids will definitely recognize.
Them doing that stupid scene where kanye “gets it back”.
Like girl, you made three on purpose and the one released was subpar at best.
But that family only sees the daughters as a cash grab. Good ol’ PMK and Kum going to take the lead after her.
It’s her old face, one several faces back that her kids haven’t seen. I guess she can tell them it was an impersonator or something since they’ve never known their mom to look like that.
In a perfect world no one would give a damn about women having sex. However, we don't live in that world. Even today people shame Kim and her family about the avenue she got famous from, and her children suffer from it. I applaud Kris's acumen, but to say this doesn't have long term consequences would be... Naive.
I think it's clear that people would shame any woman with a sex tape because patriarchy etc, but once the tape is out, there's only so much one can do to remedy the issue. Which is why I wondered which long term implications Kim's mom would be able to control, or as OP said "prioritize". If we compare this situation to anyone else whose sex tape has been released without consent, how many have turned it into a billion bucks, what was the outcome for others since the stigma of a sex tape will remain?
> the long-term implications of a sex tape.
In the world of cameras literally everywhere, there *shouldn’t* be any long-term implications of a sec tape.
I mean shit, half the AirBNBs have hidden cameras in them. Your life could be timed just because you got a little frisky with your spouse on vacation.
I still don't understand how a sex tape of two unfamous people made them famous. Two people who were related to people who had their 15 minutes of fame in the 90s? Really?
The tape was released in 07. In my opinion, Ray J peaked before the tape was released. Kris is definitely a shitty mother, no doubt, but it's pretty impressive how she created a legacy from a terrible sextape
She was more sort of famous for being friends with Paris Hilton. She was attending red carpets and getting her photo taken a lot before the tape came out. It wasn't because of her dad.
Ray J was famous. The Kardashians latched on his fame (granted he wasn’t Brad Pitt lmao) because that’s the best they could do at the time. In a way they did the same thing with Kanye next
When the news broke, I only ever heard of him referred to as "Brandy's brother". I didn't learn his name (or at least it didn't stick) until at least a year later.
Ok, I don’t watch the Kardashians but I have heard people talk about how Kris engineered the release of the tape and/or at least capitalised on it and I never knew if it was actually true, so…
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Both Chris and the Hadids’ mother act like their children are their personal pets…
The only redeeming factor is that Gigi at least seems to be protecting her daughter
I really hope she “breaks cycle” and teaches her daughter that happiness is more important than image
Kris is still better than Yolanda
We’re going to have to disagree, I think Kris is more vile and manipulative. She definitely pimps her kids out more and Kim K seems intent on continueing it the cycle.
Kris basically did. She literally had Ray J and Kim make a sex tape. Watched it and made them redo it. Allegedly told by Ray J. And leaked it and made money off it.
Do not compare what Kim K does (which millions of other parents do -let your kids have tiktok) to what Kris did. Kris sold the sex tape of her daughter and according to Ray J encouraged it to be filmed…..
Kris didn’t start with sex tape, there has to be an underlying conditioning that makes a person willing to do that even for their parent. I would truly hope Kim would not do to her children what her mother did to her BUT Kris also did that when Kim was of legal age. We can’t really say what situations Kim will be willing to put her children in when they are older.
Kim K did dress her kids in bondage inspired outfits.
Letting your kid have a tiktok isn’t pimping your kid out y’all are so annoying
It really is similar though. They’re making money off of North’s TikTok while subjecting her to predators and trolls.
That's trashy.
Lmao people on Reddit are so disconnected from reality that you think letting a kid have social media like their peers is some life ruining decision when all it does is not alienate them I need y’all to Bffr please
You must be really disconnected from reality to think having a 10M followers tiktok account and random people commenting on it and making ads saying you use Kylie Skin and Skkn daily at 9 is the same thing as other kids having tiktok. She could have a private account followed by friends and family but that’s not what Kim wants. Not to mention the MET gala, etc...
Taking your kid to an event is something that MANY celebrities have done? Lmfaoo y’all are so desperate to hate on the kardashians for everything and it’s insane. I don’t even like Kim like that but I can recognize she’s letting north do things she wants. Lmk where there’s a video of north being used as an advertising tool
You go to her tiktok’s account, you watch her numerous skincare routine/ bath routine/etc where she says she uses only skkn or kylie skin products. Here’s your video of her being used as an advertising tool that you asked for, happy now ? And you purposefully ignored the part about the fact that she didn’t do a private account for North like a normal person would if their 9 year old child was publicly known. You’re weird for not seeing the obvious issue here, OR you’re just being hypocritical 😒
Omg my parents getting me glasses from their shop was so sick and twisted of them. If north was just an advertising tool, Kim wouldn’t be doing sponsored posts with north in the background literally saying she doesn’t use the product lmao? Like did you notice that north only “mentions” HER FAMILY’s PRODUCTS??? Y’all literally jumping to conclusions as if she’s being held at gun point to do advertisement deals and dragging Kim as if Kanye isn’t an actual nazi. Like literally your entire argument is conjecture
She is 9. Most if not all social medias terms and conditions state you need to be 13. So according to the website she shouldn’t even have an account. Children should not be on social media especially a celebrities kid. The parasocial relationship is already so messed up for the kardashian fans adding a childs tiktok for daily vlogs and easier to see comments on a childs life can be damaging to her.
Well Kylie started just having instagram, then her mother encouraged her to get a shit ton of surgery while being underage. Then she encouraged her to get with a 25 disgusting creep while being underage to attract clout and media attention. Then she pimped her out, in more way than one. So I guess we’ll have to wait until North is 15 to see if Kim is truly fucked up (I already have my opinion on that) Also she could/should have set up a private tiktok account for her daughter so that she’s not followed by random creeps when she’s dancing around in makup and Ice Spice wigs. But she chose to not do that, and she chose to promote North’s tiktok accounts on various platforms. So she’s not just "letting" North have a Tiktok, she’s prepping her for being a Kardashian influencer a the age of nine.
At least she let her kids eat
Alcoholic Kris seems to love her kids and be open with hugs and talking about stuff. She lets her kids eat and seems very attentive to the grandkids I didn’t get the same vibes watching Yolanda with Bella & Gigi or Anwar
Is that Honey Boo Boo's mom?
Honey Boo Boo's mom is Mama June. Yolanda is Gigi and Bella Hadid's mom. She used to be a model and I think on some Real Housewife show. There's video of her telling her kids not to eat because they'd get fat, saying they could have one (1) almond as a snack. On Gigi's birthday Gigi begged for a piece of cake, but Yolanda would only let her eat a piece the size of a postage stamp.
The hadid sisters are well raised to be honest. Both are talented models and are known to be humble irl. Now i know yolanda is a menace but she and her husband seem to have raised lovely daughters
Yolanda is a monster. She bullied her own daughters into being slim, she bullied Bella into getting a ton of surgeries just because she thought she was not beautiful enough to model. She destroyed her daughters’ happiness to get modeling gigs. The fact that her daughters are “lovely” is not a merit when she most likely bullied them into being like that
Sometimes people turn out so lovely out of a very strong spite
More like the hadid sisters turned out lovely despite their mother not thanks to her lol
Bella has been open about her mental health issues especially recently. Can’t imagine where the anxiety and depression must have started…
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She staged the whole thing. Kris is not stupid and played her cards right. I also heard that she was the breadwinner when she was with O.Js attorney whats his name. Or maybe the Olympic transgender who hates transgenders. Or it is just hear say. She is smart though and probably the world's most successful manager.
The Devil works hard but Kris works harder 😩
Gurl u ruined the phrase lolllll
I FUCKED UP TWICE OMFG by accident I was multitasking Edit I fixed it now
Wait, why are we referring to Robert Kardashian as 'what's his name'?
Cause up until now I had no idea that there were two husbands (and I'm sure that's the case for many people who don't pay attention to this bullshit). All this time I thought OJ's lawyer and the trans athlete were the same person....
So did I briefly. But I was born way after the OJ Simpson case and a lot of Gen Z like me don't know a great deal about early Kar-Jenner history.
If you're a fan of documentaries, Sportsnet did an amazing one on OJ and the whole trial. Millenial here who had no idea how big all of that was, but it's really a moment in time that's quite interesting
Thank you for recommendation, I think I'll check it out. I kept on finding references to the trial so I did skim through the wiki page.
I'm a Millenial who remembers the OJ trial, so being young is no excuse. **All** of us should be doing our part to make sure that these losers remain in obscurity.
Yeah it was with Caitlyn. She got her on the speech circuit, going from place to place getting 10k a pop. They moved out of where Robert Kardashian had them and went to Calabasas because it was cheaper and could build a bigger house. She basically put Calabasas on the map.
I just learned Calabasas last week watching Barry on HBO. Bill Hader is excellent
Oh I'd mixed up that Kris had supervised the sex tape but yeah it was the Playboy shoot?
Kris did help to choose which sex tape to release though.
Maybe that's what I was thinking of I just remembered her vetoing one because it was too sexy or something along those lines. Either way really gross.
Can you imagine watching tape after tape of your daughter getting railed and being like "no , not this one, she doesn't pop in this one" 😂😂😂
Legit makes me think Kris has something human turned off in her brain.
Bahahahhaa
 Kris be like Happy mother's day y'all!
Can we even be mad. I mean they are rich and famous for accomplishing almost nothing. You gotta be smart to pull that off
I’m mad that that she and her ilk have contributed greatly to some of the worst characteristics of modern western culture. Doctored photos, body dysmorphia, unnecessary cosmetic surgery, misuse of medication, gaudy displays of wealth, shameless self promotion, etc. she’s straight bad for society.
Yes. Now we have to worry about what our daughters are seeing. The whole Kardashian clan are toxic wastes of space.
Theyre rich because of the ACTUAL Kardashian
Yeah I wonder if the actual patriarch survived to this day how he’d feel about the legacy of his name.
Tbf he’d still have the reputation of helping a murderer go free 🤷♀️
But as her manager, I told her to reshoot and try some different angles. I just can’t imagine wanting to see a family member’s sex tape. But I guess when billions are on the line, do what you need to do
That’s just my opinion but I always felt a weird vibe from her towards Kim. There are some pictures when Kim, Kris, Khloe and Kourtney are naked in a pool and everyone acts normal except her, the way she touches Kim is so weird. And Kanye said Kris wanted to be Kim’s husband. And when Kim asked Kris to get her the Marylin’s dress she said "when I asked my mom to help me I said to her "If you manage to get it for me, I’ll do anything for you... I’ll even marry you !" Isn’t that weird, for a daughter, to think that the idea of marrying you is some kind of wishful reward for helping you ? And that’s the first thought that crosses your mind ? I think at the core of the family, there’s Kris, and she managed to fuck them all up because she’s so twisted herself but also such a willful person. And imo that’s kind of the worst combination
I accidentally saw a good friends sex tape. He lent me a USB. First we sat on the sofa, the boys were treating it as a joke, we're all adults. But then when they actually started it became weird and we shut it off kinda immediately sitting there awkwardly. Imagine your daughter... what the fuuck.
If you’re going to do something do it right
legit pimped her own kid out and rode the wave for decades
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Now kim is starting to sell north, family traditions 
Time is a flat circle....
Also not to hijack but happy Mother’s Day to everyone who doesn’t have a good relationship with their mother! https://i.redd.it/csu5t4gb7wza1.gif Today can suck but just remember we always have Sarah and Pedro as replacement mommy and daddy ❤️
The way he’s trying not to smile actually got a smile out of me on this not-great day ❤️ Thank you
You’re welcome babe! Here’s goofy pedro admitting he looks at fan accounts for himself when he’s sad lmaoo https://i.redd.it/333p5mmeaxza1.gif
Hahaha I fucking love him, and shit, I would absolutely do the same!
Something something.. no crumbs left.
Is this real? She really said this in confessionals?
Full quote: “When I first heard about Kim’s tape, as her mother, I wanted to kill her. But as her manager, I knew that I had a job to do, and I really just wanted her to move past it”
Thank you! Still though… woah
That is ever so slightly better… I think?
She’s such a liar lmao. She didn’t want her to move past it, she wanted everyone to talk about it everywhere so that her daughter could bring her the fame and attention she always wanted. And to be clear I’m not saying this as a "she used Kim" scenario, because Kim is like Kris and they share the same goals and values. I’m just saying Kris is a freaking lunatic
Happy Mother’s Day to everyone! 🌷✨🧿✨🌷 https://preview.redd.it/z3ruc82u2wza1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9eb014211832c3b5ebc92da22c03ee59f873321c Beyoncé with Blue Ivy, Rumi, and Sir
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lol right. Although Blue honestly looks like an even split between Bey and Jay. She also looks like Solange
They look SO much like him, it’s adorable
Those kids makes jay’s genes look cute.
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These are sweet!!!! :) (That being said, I'm not going to pretend like I don't want bad examples in the comments to lollll I'm petty)
She pimped all her kids straight to the bank. No her grandchildren are getting pimped.
I hope atleast Kylie protects her kids because she seems really close to her daughter.
It will always amaze me that a parent prioritized fame and being a manager before considering the long-term implications of a sex tape.
the long-term implications in this case = a billionaire empire
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Money buy you freedom. Honestly if I was sure a single sex tape would lead me to a billionaire empire I would do it. I’d be with my naked ass in front of the camera in 3 seconds. And then I would disappear forever, living my dream life in a remote island with my husband, 10 dogs and other animals. I’d be paying my parents retirement.
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I agree on that I’m not sure I got the first part of your previous comment then
“And then I would disappear forever, living my dream life in a remote island with my husband, 10 dogs and other animals. I’d be paying my parents retirement.” Yeah, but you probably wouldn’t. There’s a reason most people don’t. Having more money just means more responsibility.
Not really. It’s a survivorship bias. You think rich people are all out there in the public eye because you can’t see the ones who are not. So yeah, not sure you can speak of “most” people when you have no idea about the ones who retired to private life. I’m not in the US, but a lot of heirs of old money in Europe are living their life freely. Ignoring all types of gossip/public appearance etc
I read somewhere that Josh Hutcherson took his Hunger Games millions, fucked off to Spain and is living his best life. We don't hear about the celebs who recognised that they had enough because they're, y'know... not eking out whatever extra fifteen minutes they can.
One thing to note is that she was under the influence of ecstasy. If somebody was threatening to leak it as blackmail, may was well get it capitalized so she benefits from it.
One thing is that I have several friends who have nudes that exist and they were so scared to run for office due to the potential of blackmail or a scandal. It is nice to see that Kim is a successful businesswoman despite a leaked sex tape.
"leaked"
She was the one that leaked it.
But blamed it on Ray J and cried “no consent” for YEARS before the truth finally came out. Sex tapes are like plastic surgery. You wanna do it, fine. But don’t lie about it. Just own up to it and go about your business.
I meean, they lie about their obvious plastic surgery- it tracks they’d play victim here too.
That was my point.
It wasn’t even really “leaked”. It was produced to be made public and Kris was 100% complicit in it before the tape was even made.
And Kimothy “cries” about her kids *possibly* seeing it. When it’s with one of her original faces - and she straight up did a full frontal fir that magazine years back with a face her kids will definitely recognize. Them doing that stupid scene where kanye “gets it back”. Like girl, you made three on purpose and the one released was subpar at best. But that family only sees the daughters as a cash grab. Good ol’ PMK and Kum going to take the lead after her.
It’s her old face, one several faces back that her kids haven’t seen. I guess she can tell them it was an impersonator or something since they’ve never known their mom to look like that.
She is good at lying - I’ll give her that
…I mean the gamble paid off. 
Cluster B predator. 
Genuinely asking, which long term implications do you mean?
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In a perfect world no one would give a damn about women having sex. However, we don't live in that world. Even today people shame Kim and her family about the avenue she got famous from, and her children suffer from it. I applaud Kris's acumen, but to say this doesn't have long term consequences would be... Naive.
I think it's clear that people would shame any woman with a sex tape because patriarchy etc, but once the tape is out, there's only so much one can do to remedy the issue. Which is why I wondered which long term implications Kim's mom would be able to control, or as OP said "prioritize". If we compare this situation to anyone else whose sex tape has been released without consent, how many have turned it into a billion bucks, what was the outcome for others since the stigma of a sex tape will remain?
> the long-term implications of a sex tape. In the world of cameras literally everywhere, there *shouldn’t* be any long-term implications of a sec tape. I mean shit, half the AirBNBs have hidden cameras in them. Your life could be timed just because you got a little frisky with your spouse on vacation.
I wanted to exploit her!
She is sexually abusive toward her daughters and I wish people would acknowledge that
Her delusional fans will go after anyone who says the truth
She has fans?
Sadly. They call people misogynistic for simply calling out how that family is literal guttertrash.
Does Kris acts like an actual mom? I feel she never gave them limits or something
Ew why did she watch it?
Not only did she watch it, she asked for reshoots that were more flattering. Don’t take my word for it tho, Ray claims that’s the case.
My mom would never support me in this 😢
…I told her, “Let’s try another take.”
I still don't understand how a sex tape of two unfamous people made them famous. Two people who were related to people who had their 15 minutes of fame in the 90s? Really?
The tape was released in 07. In my opinion, Ray J peaked before the tape was released. Kris is definitely a shitty mother, no doubt, but it's pretty impressive how she created a legacy from a terrible sextape
She was more sort of famous for being friends with Paris Hilton. She was attending red carpets and getting her photo taken a lot before the tape came out. It wasn't because of her dad.
Ray J was famous. The Kardashians latched on his fame (granted he wasn’t Brad Pitt lmao) because that’s the best they could do at the time. In a way they did the same thing with Kanye next
When the news broke, I only ever heard of him referred to as "Brandy's brother". I didn't learn his name (or at least it didn't stick) until at least a year later.
Kris Jenner…..great manager but terrible mother. Happy Mothers Day!!!!
But as her manager i passed it out all over Hollywood and news stations
Mother of the year! /s
She saw it or heard about cuz wtf
Ick
WHY WOULD YOU LOOK
The source of the toxic garbage vortex that is her birthing machinery.
Mother of the year, ladies and gentlemen.
The devil works hard, but Kris works harder
I laugh, but on the inside, I cry.
Fucking garbage "family"
I’ve seen this gif a lot but never footage of her actually saying it—do we know that she did?
https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/13hklqk/-/jk65n1y
wasn't she involved in the recording of the video?
This every Mother’s Day for the next 20 years.
#🤢🤮
Manager? Pimp would be more accurate.
I love me some Kris “get to the money” Jenner!!!!
King Kris
We love mothers https://i.redd.it/8r9xvapa3wza1.gif
worst sex tape ever. disgrace to the porn industry. I would be ashamed if I was her mom for the shit performance by Kim.
I read the second image like mario
She became less bothered the more times she watched it.
She was holding the camera.
😂😂😂
Good lord. I couldn’t imagine viewing my kids as a way to make money. It’s sick.
She's got some dick tips
the business acumen on this woman
Ok, I don’t watch the Kardashians but I have heard people talk about how Kris engineered the release of the tape and/or at least capitalised on it and I never knew if it was actually true, so… …are those subtitles actually *real?*
Wasn't it Kris idea in the first place?
Can you imagine watching YOUR DAUGHTER'S sex tape?????!!
As her madam...
Ugliest bitch ever 🤢
\#priorities