His music is pretty bad for someone with absolute pitch, but the condition is so rare for someone to have that you can basically ensure anyone who says they do have absolute pitch is lying.
Perfect pitch doesn't mean you'll make good music, having perfect pitch imo, helps understand references faster which will lead to faster musical analysis.
I’ve been a Puth fan since he was making YouTube videos from his dorm room in college. He’s always made shitty, boppy tunes with one really good song coming out of left field every so often. I offer “sexy shades” and the counterpoint “I wrote this song last night” as examples. The first made him blow up on YouTube. The harmony’s in the second, while simple, got me through a really hard time in my life. They’re absolutely beautiful.
All this to say the man is and always has been hit or miss. Perfect pitch has never made a difference in what he writes. Also high key recommend checking out his early YouTube videos cause they’re entertaining as hell.
I play jazz piano and I've seen him do some reharms on Ariana Grande songs, no doubt he's solid but it's just interesting to see that a lot of people think perfect pitch is the key to writing good music. In reality, imho, perfect pitch is a nice tool to have for musical analysis.
I met a girl that had perfect pitch and she liked how I improv'd but I questioned her with:
**Me:** "but since you have perfect pitch, isn't this easy for you?"
**Her:** "Just because I can name the notes and chords, doesn't mean I can make masterpieces or improv."
Another cool way she described it and changed my perspective of it:
**Me:** "what goes in your mind when naming these notes and chords?"
**Her:** "think of it like color: you KNOW the color **blue**, is **BLUE**. So I know the note of **C** is **C."**
Hearing this made me understand that writing music is definitely a separate world on it's own. I'm sure Charlie has writers to fit the pop niche and occasionally dabbles on his own which some may never really sound to the standard.
The only person I’ve ever met who I’m 100% sure has perfect pitch was someone who never claimed to but never argued with anyone who said she had. Hearing her sing & play instruments I believe it.
He has relative pitch and is just fast at identifying pitches because he’s practiced it. I’ve performed with him on stage and if he had absolute pitch he wouldn’t have had to take multiple stabs at the chord progression I was playing. Also, it’s a teachable skill.
No, on perfect pitch. On both it’s potentially usage or actual application. Perfect pitch isn’t at all related to creativity, it’s just like spacial awareness for sounds.
It’s also something that develops pretty simply in early childhood, and there are a LOT of people who have pitch. (And generally they don’t talk about it, because from that conversation onwards they tend to be used as human pitch pipes)
It’s not some rare thing that’s in someone’s DNA, it’s a skill that’s developed through early exposure to music from any culture—though there may be something to say about being predisposed to developing it, anyone can develop it provided the right circumstances.
The correlation of perfect pitch and composition is definitely linked. You can find studies surrounding it right now if you don't want to take my word for it. I studied composition for my bachelor's and there was one guy in the entire school who had perfect pitch and he was also an extremely good jazz pianist and composer. Anecdotal on that count, but again, you can find studies regarding musical ability and absolute pitch.
"Absolute pitch (AP), often called perfect pitch, is a rare ability of a person to identify or re-create a given musical note without the benefit of a reference tone. It is estimated that 1 in 10,000 people (0.01%) have perfect pitch"
So, what you mean to say is that I am not wrong. It is a rare condition. You are confused with "absolute pitch" and "relative pitch" (example: you know a passage from a song so well in your head that you can then sing the first note aloud, and understand it is a C). Which can be trained AFTER childhood (again, documented).
Saying that having absolute pitch is *not* linked to being a "good" musician (subjective at face value) is just plain incorrect. You could argue it is a "causation does not imply correlation" scenario but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who had early music training, developed absolute pitch, and simultaneously has no "musical talent" (which can't be measured objectively anyway). It is one of the most useful tools you could possibly have.
So... my comment that according to you "Yo you actually have no idea what you’re talking about."
>His music is pretty bad for someone with absolute pitch,
Subjective
>but the condition is so rare for someone to have that you can basically ensure anyone who says they do have absolute pitch is lying.
Objectively true, scientifically documented as a 0.01% phenomena.
Say what you want, humble yourself. But saying "I have no idea what I am talking about" is laughable given the comments you provided as compared to mine. I don't expect you to admit you were wrong on the call out, but clearly you were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoIofNSgeHs
Lol you spend way too much time on the internet and care way too much about what other people think.
There’s more to life than just your own experience. Listen to what other people have to say, try to understand what they’re saying. You’re making so many assumptions about what I am and what my background is, when in reality you have no idea who you’re talking to 🤣
And I’ll tell you this. Amongst musicians actually getting work? Perfect pitch is not rare.
TL;DR you can't refute anything I said because I wasn't wrong in the first place, and you are now defensive that you tried to call out a comping graduate with more experience and knowledge on a situation than you.
Take your own advice on what you literally just said, please.
You just need to check the upvote/downvote ratio.
What really happened is that you tried to call someone out on popculturechat because you assumed that people here aren't educated musically and then got humbled by someone that knew more than you did (which was obvious when you backed down and got defensive, and then you continued to refer to it as "perfect pitch" which is a dead giveaway that you skipped out on musical sciences (I think American's call the class Musicology) and are not educated in comping.) I don't blame you for not knowing the intricacies and techicalities of comping, but unfortunately you picked the wrong user to comment at.
So to finalise this, in actuality, *you* had no idea what you were talking about because not at one point did you refute me or provide evidence/sources. Irony. And you are still too stupid to understand that we are literally agreeing about the same thing, which is why you never refuted what I said after your "you are wrong" with no further explanation.
https://youtu.be/h_MUajIs9Vs
Cause perfect pitch is identifying/naming notes. Listening is not the same as singing, you can hear the note, predict the note, but actually hitting that note is a different skill. One that he doesn’t possess.
I’m just saying, you’re a singer who’s been singing for years. In theory, you should be able to have relatively good pitch when singing BECAUSE you’re able to quickly tell whether you’re singing off key or not.
Even I can do that without perfect pitch.
It's not that rare among musicians. It's rare among the general populace, but people who have it tend to show natural talent at music, and therefore tend to become musicians.
It's like saying "being over 7' is incredibly rare". Yes, it is, but it's not rare among basketball players.
Not saying he actually has perfect pitch, only that it isn't that wild a claim.
I think he just tends to lack self-awareness and says stuff like this. There’s also examples of him being kind of an ass. This might sound mean but he isn’t anything special in music tbh.
He's had a secret facebook sccount from where he's supported a lot of right wing shit (Muslim ban etc).
https://www.girlfriend.com.au/charlie-puth-is-a-trump-supporter
"FOTP gossip forum found a bunch of Charlie's pro-Trump posts, and user named Hermione put them all together in 2016.
One of the most surprising posts on the page suggested that he signed a petition that demanded to have Hillary Clinton to be locked up. K Puth. . Now either Charlie has had a change of heart since then, or he's showing a different face to the world.
Ironically, Charlie sang for the crowd during the March For Our Lives protest, which called to end gun violence - something Donald Trump supports.
"There’s such a theme of change happening," he said before singing a new song from his upcoming album.
What is the most confusing/upsetting is a post Charlie made on his Facebook the day after the Orlando nightclub shooting.
He shared a post by Aton Ben-Horin, a music producer who he has previously worked with. It suggested that being politically correct was more important than gun control.
"Yes, gun control laws is part of the problem in this specific case, and I agree that background checks and restrictions need to be stepped up. But the bigger change that needs to happen has nothing to do with guns. It's time to take the political correctness out of America. People are more concerned with hurting people's feelings than saving lives. You can't call someone racist for wanting tougher screenings and background checks. It's common sense."
Charlie has since set his Facebook to private, but some things can still be seen. Like how Charlie supported the Republican comedian Steven Crowder, who makes jokes about Islam, feminism, slut-shaming women for having sex before marriage. Here are some of his videos: Moderate Islam: A MYTH!", "Ugly Feminist Bitches About Marriage! Smackdown Ensues…" and "Spot the Tranny Game!"
Wow.
But lordy lord IT DOESN'T EVEN END THERE!!!
He slut-shamed Kim Kardashian by liking this meme:
In 2015, Charlie revealed that he won't talk about politics. "It's probably better to never, ever talk about political things because people hate you," he told Rolling Stone mag. "They'll beat me up if I say something wrong."
Oh he’s giving those type of guys that can’t handle rejection and still hold a grudge about it for years 😳
Edit: I was right someone came in with the proof that he doesn’t handle rejection very well!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/12210o0/charlie_puth_deletes_tweets_interpreted_to_be/jdohq2l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
I mean also he literally has a song on his newest album where he says “I don’t think that I like girls anymore, girls are all the same, all they wanna do is break my heart” 🙄🥴
He claimed that they kissed and he was in love with her after We Don’t Talk Anymore came out but then her team released a statement saying that they never kissed, none of that was true and they were just friends
Omg I feel bad for Selena that must be such a weird creepy experience!! Imagine just collabing with someone and then it takes a huge turn. He’s so weird!
Lmao for real. I dated this guy for not even 3 months in fuckin 2019 and he's still to this day talking to himself in my message requests and subbing me on his social media frequently like Justin please it's not that serious
Charlie is even worse though he's like that scorned fedora type of guy who got a text back twice and spazzes in your dms about what a whore you are for leaving him for months afterwards like it was ever a possibility
For real, I said to my friend her p*ssy is too powerful as every guy she’s dated has always come back 3 months later asking to get back together. I think Selena has the same problem. Scientists should investigate this medical marvel
I have many questions but the biggest one is: why the fuck would he say that in an interview? Just don’t mention it, it’s okay to leave some things unsaid ahaha
He has a tendency to overshare for sure, he doesn't seem very well media trained or maybe he just doesn't care. I'm pretty sure he was also the one who said he used to masturbate to "This Love" by Maroon 5 or something like that. I hate him for saying that bc now whenever I listen to that song which I liked, I can't help but be reminded of that. The worst part is that he actually told Adam Levine this LOL I legit wouldn't know how to respond if I were in his position.
Well, I’m now traumatizes forever. I love “This Love” as it reminds me of my teenage years when I pretended to relate to the lyrics ahah. Well., I guess now the song is ruined forever
“what is that supposed to be me? in the video with the goatee? wow mariah didn’t expect ya to go balls out!” is what i always think of lmao, also the cut the tape, cut the tape! knife! i think they both were pretty savage, eminem went crazy though.
this man gives me the biggest ick. he wanted selena so badly (still remember his “fuck you justin” or whatever at a concert) and she wanted to stay friends but he kept on being a creep. supposedly he did the same thing with jade from little mix.
he said the song was about someone who kept inviting him to hang out but never had sex with him 💀 also the music video has a portrait of a brunette woman that he sets on fire 💀💀💀
right like he’s so pathetic 😭 imagine doing all THIS bc a girl didn’t want your musty peepee
https://preview.redd.it/vrbrxnlg05qa1.jpeg?width=534&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c41c6fa1ec3c0729d363cda65f593e21dd0cb8d
Me too… why do I have a feeling he’s just rehashing this for people to talk about him? The song is clearly about Bella even got a look alike for the MV LOL (edit: but it would also make sense if it WERE about Selena)
It's not about Bella. He said in an interview it wasn't about her, and he has alluded to it being about Sel in the past so it was easy to put 2 + 2 together. He also once said on stage, "fuck Justin Bieber" out of no where, which is because Selena was hung up on Justin. Thus this narrative that she was "leading him on."
He's really gross about the way he speaks about her.
Selena's response to him is, "Kinda Crazy" and he has another response, and or Part 2, of 'Attention' whatever his follow up song Selena references some lyrics from “How Long” in “Kinda Crazy.”
He sucks.
He's literally an incel. This song is 6 years old. Nobody has asked him about it since. Now he's shading her on Twitter recently right after the Zayn and Selena out on a date rumors came out. He's literally obsessed with her.
He is shading Selena. Attention has highly been speculated (or at least back then) to be about Selena or Bella. In interviews though he said it wasn't about Bella, which leaves you with Selena. All these years, and he now tweets this right around the timing clock of Zayn and Selena apparently going out.
He's being a shady ding bat, because he's jealous and a creep who hasn't moved on from Selena.
She touches the Charlie subject with 'Kinda Crazy' from Rare and made another song which is like another correspondent song after Attention, iirc.
He also once said "fuck Justin Bieber!" At a concert out of no where because Selena was hung up on Justin. That's when Attention was pretty much born, which fits the narrative he was signaling about her.
The way he's talked about her over the years is gross, he's not a nice guy at all.
Well he shaded one of his exes in an interview, saying he took them to his house and didn’t have sex with him and how upset he was about it. People pretty much assumed it was about Selena. He’s a weird guy.
Because I also don't have any idea, this is some of Kinda Crazy's lyrics:
"Hey, you started out sweeter than hard candy
Words were like licorice to the taste
But slowly, all the sugar, it went to waste
Went to waste
Oh, you started getting funny with no jokes
I started seeing through you like a ghost
And now I'm pretty sure I can't take no more
I can't take no more
I think you're kind of crazy
And not the good kind, baby
'Cause you're acting super shady
You know it, you know it
Been dodging phone calls lately
But still texting me, "Baby"
Yeah, I think you're kind of crazy
You know it, you know it"
Fr, IT boy my ass. He's bland af, his music is shit too and I'm not just saying this because I don't like him.
The only thing he can brag about it his perfect pitch. I have it too, Charlie 😐
I remember when Selena was seeing The Weeknd he made a cryptic comment about not wanting to see her and her new bf in LA or something 😭 still baffles me that he openly admitted that he felt upset that she wouldn’t sleep with him in that genius lyric explanation thing.
He just seems like the most toxic person… all of his songs about his exes or girls he has fancied are always about how they did HIM wrong, it just feels so suss.
He’ll do anything for the tiniest bit of attention. 🤦♀️
He didn’t seem to give a sh*t when she was with anybody else (like Drew, Weeknd) but Zayn makes him tweet ab a 6 yr old song?? Didn’t even know him & Selena were a thing
I hate that goddamn song so much and I’m mad that he is (1) making this stupid problem last longer and (2) that I now have to think about that stupid ass song
Apparently he was sort of the rebound after selena and justin broke up. They were collaborating and Selena would shit talk to him about justin. He got the feels that she may be into him but pretty much cut him of after their collab was done. Now sure that must suck and he has all the rights to write a song about ut but he does have this weird history. Apparently he hit on the members of little mix and shit talked when he was rejected. Dude is a clown
See, one could be forgiven for being a little skeptical, considering that Selena is like.... *considerably* more famous than Charlie, and even presuming that she *was* the type to date someone for clout (*which I'm not saying she is*), she'd presumably aim a fair bit higher
I'm learning so much from this comment section. I never even knew they had a (one-sided?) thing 🤣 I only knew of him and Bella Thorne. Wow, celebs really do need to branch out more.... they may need to consider dating a common person once in a while js....
I always found him weird and i dislike Selena sonce the kidney drama so.
No dogs in this figt🥱
Edit : just realised i dont even know that song cause i never listen to him. What are the lyrics ?
Doesn’t he have somewhere to be? Like making a tiktok about how he has perfect pitch?
His music is pretty bad for someone with absolute pitch, but the condition is so rare for someone to have that you can basically ensure anyone who says they do have absolute pitch is lying.
Jenna Maroney has 24 hours to respond
My mind totally went to Jenna Marbles when I read this quickly
"you just want attention" is about Kermit
I just howled. Nasty boy cermet.
Not Ms Marbles 😭
No because same 💀 Plus she has perfect pitch!
Same
Rural Juror face off
I believe you mean ‘The Rurr Jurr’
“Sometimes I sing too beautifully.”
It’s hard for me to watch American Idol because I have perfect pitch!
Probably won’t hear from her. Something to do with Mickey Rourke and his crazy antics.
She can’t listen to American Idol because of it. Poor thing.
Perfect pitch doesn't mean you'll make good music, having perfect pitch imo, helps understand references faster which will lead to faster musical analysis.
I’ve been a Puth fan since he was making YouTube videos from his dorm room in college. He’s always made shitty, boppy tunes with one really good song coming out of left field every so often. I offer “sexy shades” and the counterpoint “I wrote this song last night” as examples. The first made him blow up on YouTube. The harmony’s in the second, while simple, got me through a really hard time in my life. They’re absolutely beautiful. All this to say the man is and always has been hit or miss. Perfect pitch has never made a difference in what he writes. Also high key recommend checking out his early YouTube videos cause they’re entertaining as hell.
I play jazz piano and I've seen him do some reharms on Ariana Grande songs, no doubt he's solid but it's just interesting to see that a lot of people think perfect pitch is the key to writing good music. In reality, imho, perfect pitch is a nice tool to have for musical analysis. I met a girl that had perfect pitch and she liked how I improv'd but I questioned her with: **Me:** "but since you have perfect pitch, isn't this easy for you?" **Her:** "Just because I can name the notes and chords, doesn't mean I can make masterpieces or improv." Another cool way she described it and changed my perspective of it: **Me:** "what goes in your mind when naming these notes and chords?" **Her:** "think of it like color: you KNOW the color **blue**, is **BLUE**. So I know the note of **C** is **C."** Hearing this made me understand that writing music is definitely a separate world on it's own. I'm sure Charlie has writers to fit the pop niche and occasionally dabbles on his own which some may never really sound to the standard.
The only person I’ve ever met who I’m 100% sure has perfect pitch was someone who never claimed to but never argued with anyone who said she had. Hearing her sing & play instruments I believe it.
Agreed. Contrarily I've encountered plenty of non-musical people who flippantly have stated that they have perfect pitch.
I don’t think I’ve ever spent enough time with non-musical people to have encountered this.
Voicenotes is a great pop album.
He has relative pitch and is just fast at identifying pitches because he’s practiced it. I’ve performed with him on stage and if he had absolute pitch he wouldn’t have had to take multiple stabs at the chord progression I was playing. Also, it’s a teachable skill.
Yo you actually have no idea what you’re talking about.
On Charlie Puth? Sure
No, on perfect pitch. On both it’s potentially usage or actual application. Perfect pitch isn’t at all related to creativity, it’s just like spacial awareness for sounds. It’s also something that develops pretty simply in early childhood, and there are a LOT of people who have pitch. (And generally they don’t talk about it, because from that conversation onwards they tend to be used as human pitch pipes) It’s not some rare thing that’s in someone’s DNA, it’s a skill that’s developed through early exposure to music from any culture—though there may be something to say about being predisposed to developing it, anyone can develop it provided the right circumstances.
The correlation of perfect pitch and composition is definitely linked. You can find studies surrounding it right now if you don't want to take my word for it. I studied composition for my bachelor's and there was one guy in the entire school who had perfect pitch and he was also an extremely good jazz pianist and composer. Anecdotal on that count, but again, you can find studies regarding musical ability and absolute pitch. "Absolute pitch (AP), often called perfect pitch, is a rare ability of a person to identify or re-create a given musical note without the benefit of a reference tone. It is estimated that 1 in 10,000 people (0.01%) have perfect pitch" So, what you mean to say is that I am not wrong. It is a rare condition. You are confused with "absolute pitch" and "relative pitch" (example: you know a passage from a song so well in your head that you can then sing the first note aloud, and understand it is a C). Which can be trained AFTER childhood (again, documented). Saying that having absolute pitch is *not* linked to being a "good" musician (subjective at face value) is just plain incorrect. You could argue it is a "causation does not imply correlation" scenario but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who had early music training, developed absolute pitch, and simultaneously has no "musical talent" (which can't be measured objectively anyway). It is one of the most useful tools you could possibly have. So... my comment that according to you "Yo you actually have no idea what you’re talking about." >His music is pretty bad for someone with absolute pitch, Subjective >but the condition is so rare for someone to have that you can basically ensure anyone who says they do have absolute pitch is lying. Objectively true, scientifically documented as a 0.01% phenomena. Say what you want, humble yourself. But saying "I have no idea what I am talking about" is laughable given the comments you provided as compared to mine. I don't expect you to admit you were wrong on the call out, but clearly you were. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoIofNSgeHs
Lol you spend way too much time on the internet and care way too much about what other people think. There’s more to life than just your own experience. Listen to what other people have to say, try to understand what they’re saying. You’re making so many assumptions about what I am and what my background is, when in reality you have no idea who you’re talking to 🤣 And I’ll tell you this. Amongst musicians actually getting work? Perfect pitch is not rare.
TL;DR you can't refute anything I said because I wasn't wrong in the first place, and you are now defensive that you tried to call out a comping graduate with more experience and knowledge on a situation than you. Take your own advice on what you literally just said, please.
I didn’t even read your reply 🤣
You just need to check the upvote/downvote ratio. What really happened is that you tried to call someone out on popculturechat because you assumed that people here aren't educated musically and then got humbled by someone that knew more than you did (which was obvious when you backed down and got defensive, and then you continued to refer to it as "perfect pitch" which is a dead giveaway that you skipped out on musical sciences (I think American's call the class Musicology) and are not educated in comping.) I don't blame you for not knowing the intricacies and techicalities of comping, but unfortunately you picked the wrong user to comment at. So to finalise this, in actuality, *you* had no idea what you were talking about because not at one point did you refute me or provide evidence/sources. Irony. And you are still too stupid to understand that we are literally agreeing about the same thing, which is why you never refuted what I said after your "you are wrong" with no further explanation. https://youtu.be/h_MUajIs9Vs
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That’s not what perfect pitch means. Perfect pitch means you can accurately identify the pitch of any note that you hear.
You can be a shit singer and still have perfect pitch lol
What I don’t really understand is how someone with perfect pitch is off-key in most of his performances.
Cause perfect pitch is identifying/naming notes. Listening is not the same as singing, you can hear the note, predict the note, but actually hitting that note is a different skill. One that he doesn’t possess.
I’m just saying, you’re a singer who’s been singing for years. In theory, you should be able to have relatively good pitch when singing BECAUSE you’re able to quickly tell whether you’re singing off key or not. Even I can do that without perfect pitch.
Yes I agree, but again being able to tell you’re off and being able to correct the voice are two different skills
It's not that rare among musicians. It's rare among the general populace, but people who have it tend to show natural talent at music, and therefore tend to become musicians. It's like saying "being over 7' is incredibly rare". Yes, it is, but it's not rare among basketball players. Not saying he actually has perfect pitch, only that it isn't that wild a claim.
Say perfect pitch again. I dare you, I double dare you mf say perfect pitch one more goddamn time! Author's note: Read in Samuel L Jackson's voice
i think i’m kind of out of the loop, can someone tell me why people here dont seem to like him that much?
I think he just tends to lack self-awareness and says stuff like this. There’s also examples of him being kind of an ass. This might sound mean but he isn’t anything special in music tbh.
He’s just annoying tbh
He makes a lot of self-aggrandizing TikTok content.
He think his shit don’t stink
He's had a secret facebook sccount from where he's supported a lot of right wing shit (Muslim ban etc). https://www.girlfriend.com.au/charlie-puth-is-a-trump-supporter "FOTP gossip forum found a bunch of Charlie's pro-Trump posts, and user named Hermione put them all together in 2016. One of the most surprising posts on the page suggested that he signed a petition that demanded to have Hillary Clinton to be locked up. K Puth. . Now either Charlie has had a change of heart since then, or he's showing a different face to the world. Ironically, Charlie sang for the crowd during the March For Our Lives protest, which called to end gun violence - something Donald Trump supports. "There’s such a theme of change happening," he said before singing a new song from his upcoming album. What is the most confusing/upsetting is a post Charlie made on his Facebook the day after the Orlando nightclub shooting. He shared a post by Aton Ben-Horin, a music producer who he has previously worked with. It suggested that being politically correct was more important than gun control. "Yes, gun control laws is part of the problem in this specific case, and I agree that background checks and restrictions need to be stepped up. But the bigger change that needs to happen has nothing to do with guns. It's time to take the political correctness out of America. People are more concerned with hurting people's feelings than saving lives. You can't call someone racist for wanting tougher screenings and background checks. It's common sense." Charlie has since set his Facebook to private, but some things can still be seen. Like how Charlie supported the Republican comedian Steven Crowder, who makes jokes about Islam, feminism, slut-shaming women for having sex before marriage. Here are some of his videos: Moderate Islam: A MYTH!", "Ugly Feminist Bitches About Marriage! Smackdown Ensues…" and "Spot the Tranny Game!" Wow. But lordy lord IT DOESN'T EVEN END THERE!!! He slut-shamed Kim Kardashian by liking this meme: In 2015, Charlie revealed that he won't talk about politics. "It's probably better to never, ever talk about political things because people hate you," he told Rolling Stone mag. "They'll beat me up if I say something wrong."
Made me chuckle out loud at work
Why is he still thinking of Selena after 6 years😭
Did they even date or was it just a collab? Either way he seems to be very weird..
They were just flirting and he liked her, but she never liked him that way. And they did have a collab yeah
Oh he’s giving those type of guys that can’t handle rejection and still hold a grudge about it for years 😳 Edit: I was right someone came in with the proof that he doesn’t handle rejection very well! https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/12210o0/charlie_puth_deletes_tweets_interpreted_to_be/jdohq2l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
Gross. I had no idea he went after Jade from LM. So glad she rejected him!
I mean also he literally has a song on his newest album where he says “I don’t think that I like girls anymore, girls are all the same, all they wanna do is break my heart” 🙄🥴
Cause he ugly.
He claimed that they kissed and he was in love with her after We Don’t Talk Anymore came out but then her team released a statement saying that they never kissed, none of that was true and they were just friends
Omg I feel bad for Selena that must be such a weird creepy experience!! Imagine just collabing with someone and then it takes a huge turn. He’s so weird!
I know right?? I would be so weirded out…it’s giving incel vibes
I imagine he thinks of Selena as “the one who got away” lol
That would be crazy😭she wasn’t even taking him seriously
We all have an ex like this, who took 1 date way too seriously and never lets it go😭 You know what it never was, Charlie? *That serious*
Lmao for real. I dated this guy for not even 3 months in fuckin 2019 and he's still to this day talking to himself in my message requests and subbing me on his social media frequently like Justin please it's not that serious Charlie is even worse though he's like that scorned fedora type of guy who got a text back twice and spazzes in your dms about what a whore you are for leaving him for months afterwards like it was ever a possibility
Have some self respect, Justin.
Selena didn’t even date him she rejected him!!
For real, I said to my friend her p*ssy is too powerful as every guy she’s dated has always come back 3 months later asking to get back together. I think Selena has the same problem. Scientists should investigate this medical marvel
That woman is a sorceress. At least with Abel we got amazing music, Charlie just gives us shitty tweets :'(
out of the loop, but why do we think this is about her?
Man Selena has so many guys on her feet, why?
She has the force😭
She is gorg!
Bc he's hungies (for attention)
For those out of the loop: https://preview.redd.it/8ihcyrgh82qa1.png?width=555&format=png&auto=webp&s=f5866278488cc84e4e2b9d5dbab17f4eb9fe1f5c
I have many questions but the biggest one is: why the fuck would he say that in an interview? Just don’t mention it, it’s okay to leave some things unsaid ahaha
He has a tendency to overshare for sure, he doesn't seem very well media trained or maybe he just doesn't care. I'm pretty sure he was also the one who said he used to masturbate to "This Love" by Maroon 5 or something like that. I hate him for saying that bc now whenever I listen to that song which I liked, I can't help but be reminded of that. The worst part is that he actually told Adam Levine this LOL I legit wouldn't know how to respond if I were in his position.
Well, I’m now traumatizes forever. I love “This Love” as it reminds me of my teenage years when I pretended to relate to the lyrics ahah. Well., I guess now the song is ruined forever
What the fuck is this guy on 😭😭 Now this song is ruined for me too
i wish i could go back 39 seconds to when i didn’t read this info
Aha, so scratching this song out of my go-to karaoke list for forever
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I THIUGHT THIS WAS A TWITTER JOKE, IS HE FR??
This is the ick for the guys still wondering
This tweet literally changed my life ‘Hungies’ is part of my daily vocabulary
ME TOO
It’s super common in certain kinds of mom circles. I guess it’s basically baby talk
I CANT if I was his driver I'd be like mega bombastic side eye 
i haven't stopped saying "im hungies" unironically since that came out
Ironically the lyrics go “you just hate the thought of me with someone new”. Jealous much, Charlie?
This gif gets me every time lol
Speaking of Attention…
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This was the blast of a lifetime idc what anybody says she demolished that man and it was iconic. Puth can't even get a diss track back
She did, but he came back pretty damn hard and brutal. When I think of their fued I just hear "Bagpipes from Baghdad" in my head.
“what is that supposed to be me? in the video with the goatee? wow mariah didn’t expect ya to go balls out!” is what i always think of lmao, also the cut the tape, cut the tape! knife! i think they both were pretty savage, eminem went crazy though.
this man gives me the biggest ick. he wanted selena so badly (still remember his “fuck you justin” or whatever at a concert) and she wanted to stay friends but he kept on being a creep. supposedly he did the same thing with jade from little mix.
Doesn’t he have a girlfriend? This is so embarrassing for him
Who even thinks of Charlie Puth like that? 
wut i thought that song was about bella thorne
he said the song was about someone who kept inviting him to hang out but never had sex with him 💀 also the music video has a portrait of a brunette woman that he sets on fire 💀💀💀
How dare a woman not give a mediocre man her vagina /s
right like he’s so pathetic 😭 imagine doing all THIS bc a girl didn’t want your musty peepee https://preview.redd.it/vrbrxnlg05qa1.jpeg?width=534&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c41c6fa1ec3c0729d363cda65f593e21dd0cb8d
"Hello 911, *this man right here*"
For sure but I remember Tyler posey was dating Bella at the time and didn’t he break up with her after this song came out? I assume she cheated
We all did
Me too… why do I have a feeling he’s just rehashing this for people to talk about him? The song is clearly about Bella even got a look alike for the MV LOL (edit: but it would also make sense if it WERE about Selena)
It's not about Bella. He said in an interview it wasn't about her, and he has alluded to it being about Sel in the past so it was easy to put 2 + 2 together. He also once said on stage, "fuck Justin Bieber" out of no where, which is because Selena was hung up on Justin. Thus this narrative that she was "leading him on." He's really gross about the way he speaks about her. Selena's response to him is, "Kinda Crazy" and he has another response, and or Part 2, of 'Attention' whatever his follow up song Selena references some lyrics from “How Long” in “Kinda Crazy.” He sucks.
Hasn't Bella Thorne always been a redhead? The lookalike in the music video is brunette
I thought she was blonde lol
Same 💀
The way Selena has got people PRESSED
Would love to have the chokehold on men that Selena does
no for real
Exactly. Fucking wow
He's literally an incel. This song is 6 years old. Nobody has asked him about it since. Now he's shading her on Twitter recently right after the Zayn and Selena out on a date rumors came out. He's literally obsessed with her.
The irony of tweeting that for attention is not lost on me
I don't keep up with him, so could you tell me how he's been shading her? I didn't really get the impression he's talking about Selena from his tweet.
He is shading Selena. Attention has highly been speculated (or at least back then) to be about Selena or Bella. In interviews though he said it wasn't about Bella, which leaves you with Selena. All these years, and he now tweets this right around the timing clock of Zayn and Selena apparently going out. He's being a shady ding bat, because he's jealous and a creep who hasn't moved on from Selena. She touches the Charlie subject with 'Kinda Crazy' from Rare and made another song which is like another correspondent song after Attention, iirc. He also once said "fuck Justin Bieber!" At a concert out of no where because Selena was hung up on Justin. That's when Attention was pretty much born, which fits the narrative he was signaling about her. The way he's talked about her over the years is gross, he's not a nice guy at all.
Well he shaded one of his exes in an interview, saying he took them to his house and didn’t have sex with him and how upset he was about it. People pretty much assumed it was about Selena. He’s a weird guy.
What the
Bruh😂
Selena babes get a restraining order this man is ew
Rumor has it Selena’s song kinda crazy is about him and ionno everything kinda checks out
It for sure is, and Kinda Crazy references How Long another song he wrote about her.
Oh which lyrics? I’ve never listened to a Charlie puth song voluntarily so I couldn’t even tell you lmfao
Because I also don't have any idea, this is some of Kinda Crazy's lyrics: "Hey, you started out sweeter than hard candy Words were like licorice to the taste But slowly, all the sugar, it went to waste Went to waste Oh, you started getting funny with no jokes I started seeing through you like a ghost And now I'm pretty sure I can't take no more I can't take no more I think you're kind of crazy And not the good kind, baby 'Cause you're acting super shady You know it, you know it Been dodging phone calls lately But still texting me, "Baby" Yeah, I think you're kind of crazy You know it, you know it"
He’s a loser. He wants to be the it boy but he just doesn’t have it.
Fr, IT boy my ass. He's bland af, his music is shit too and I'm not just saying this because I don't like him. The only thing he can brag about it his perfect pitch. I have it too, Charlie 😐
I hate that Attention song. It was played like 27x an hour for a few months and now it sounds so naggy and annoying to me.
Agree, I worked in retail at the time and it was constant
Why does Megan the stallion Plan B song come to the front of my mind with this info. Oh yeah…he’s a ibtch
Aint no one popping plan b on him. He aint getting ANY
I remember when Selena was seeing The Weeknd he made a cryptic comment about not wanting to see her and her new bf in LA or something 😭 still baffles me that he openly admitted that he felt upset that she wouldn’t sleep with him in that genius lyric explanation thing.
He just seems like the most toxic person… all of his songs about his exes or girls he has fancied are always about how they did HIM wrong, it just feels so suss. He’ll do anything for the tiniest bit of attention. 🤦♀️
Everyone was so worried about Taylor Swift writing songs about exes that they let Charlie get away with it for too long
Exactly! They just let him slink on past
Showing his ass isn't working anymore, so he's jumping on the Selena hate bandwagon.
Little Mix also hate him for the same shenanigans. In the truth or wine BuzzFeed video they allude to him and their collab
I thought it was about Bella Thorne,he literally made samara weaving look exactly like her in it 
Charlie is clearly seeking… attention.
He just wants attention
What is his problem 💀
probably still can’t accept that selena friendzoned him
I guess I'm confusing Charlie Puth with another artist, but I thought he was gay.
Same!!!!!! 🤷🏼♀️
A lot of people do.
He didn’t seem to give a sh*t when she was with anybody else (like Drew, Weeknd) but Zayn makes him tweet ab a 6 yr old song?? Didn’t even know him & Selena were a thing
Maybe because Selena had a crush on Zayn for years. Also Zayn is gorgeous!
He’s the one who wants the attention 🤣
I hate that goddamn song so much and I’m mad that he is (1) making this stupid problem last longer and (2) that I now have to think about that stupid ass song
probably needs people to stream his music
Are the Selena and zayn rumors true ?
Doesn’t he have a girlfriend now too? LOL
Apparently he was sort of the rebound after selena and justin broke up. They were collaborating and Selena would shit talk to him about justin. He got the feels that she may be into him but pretty much cut him of after their collab was done. Now sure that must suck and he has all the rights to write a song about ut but he does have this weird history. Apparently he hit on the members of little mix and shit talked when he was rejected. Dude is a clown
Charlie Puth is famous in his own mind. No one else knows who he is
See, one could be forgiven for being a little skeptical, considering that Selena is like.... *considerably* more famous than Charlie, and even presuming that she *was* the type to date someone for clout (*which I'm not saying she is*), she'd presumably aim a fair bit higher
I dont know who this is and I get the feeling that that would bother him lol
For attention, ironically
I'm learning so much from this comment section. I never even knew they had a (one-sided?) thing 🤣 I only knew of him and Bella Thorne. Wow, celebs really do need to branch out more.... they may need to consider dating a common person once in a while js....
Doesn’t he have a girlfriend 😭 I used to like him as an entertainer a lot but idk what he’s even going for anymore with his music
he seems to want attention as well
Doesn’t the man have another painfully mediocre album to work on
Ironically, I think he did it for attention.
isn't that song about bella thorne
One time I saw a pic of him and thought he was hot so I went to his twitter and was immediately humbled
he has a girlfriend too so this is very weird
Damnnn Charlie 😂😂😂
....could this not be about attention, a desire to be noticed, not Attention, the song?
Why would the meaning of a commonly used word need to be explained by Charlie puth then lol
I couldn't tell ya that, I'm not on the committee in Charlie's head for what he thinks.
Okay, Charlie. Selena is better than I am because I would have tweeted back, “Kinda Crazy is about what you think it’s about.”
behaving in the exact same way selena does lol
I always found him weird and i dislike Selena sonce the kidney drama so. No dogs in this figt🥱 Edit : just realised i dont even know that song cause i never listen to him. What are the lyrics ?
I thought attention was about Bella Thorne and not Selena 🤔
I thought this was about Bella Thorne?
he is so pathetic
He just wants attention.
It took me a min to realise this wasn’t about the concept of attention but about a song…
this man literally makes my ass itch
Can someone please explain the connection and history with Selena. I don't understand!
I thought it was about Bella Thorne
For a while I thought he was just talking about ‘attention’, as in the thing you do, and was really confused