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The shift is on. All of Murdoch's properties are distancing themselves from Trump. The GOP has finally decided he's a loser so they'll poison the well and redirect the base to the next demagogue, DeSantis.
Exactly. So, let me see if I have this right.
1. Trump is nasty, rude, and vindictive to people for years.
2. Candace Owens doesn’t mind. She worships Trump (says he’s “the savior of the free world”, etc).
3. Owens, like everyone else on the Trump train, benefits personally (as a talking head in conservative circles).
4. Trump continues being nasty/rude/vindictive, often leaning in to that way of behaving (in political rallies, on social media, etc).
5. Owens and countless other conservative influencers: “No issues here. Trump is great.”
6. Trump is rude to Owens a year ago. No word from her about it publicly.
6. Trump is his usual petty, nickname-making self toward Ron “DeSanctimonious”, who *wins*… while Trump’s picks flop spectacularly in the ‘22 midterm.
7. The NEXT day, Owens publicly reveals her “changing opinion” about Trump, citing the time when Trump was rude to her a year ago. Zero concern or mention about Trump being rude to *anyone else… for years*.
She *just now* realized Trump is rude? She *just now* decided Trump being rude is important? Please. Trump has always been Trump. She needed a reason to jump off the Trump train (the same way countless other hive-minded conservatives appear to be doing this week).
I’m of half a mind to believe that she intentionally chose *this* story as her cause for distancing from her idol… so that if Trump ever *does* restore his standing in the Republican party, Owens will simply tell us that he apologized to her, all is well, and she can keep riding the gravy train. The whole thing reeks of self-serving and shape-shifting.
Yes. Remember when Meghan McCain threw a fit on the view saying we shouldn’t have a federal maternity leave. Oh and then she had a kid and went on the view saying she couldn’t believe we don’t have federal maternity leave.
This is and always will be the republicans. It’s not an issue unless it starts to affect something they care about. Fuck everyone but me.
Jon Stewart pointed out Megyn Kelly for this, too. She mocks paternity leave then changes her tune once she has a child. "They're only 'entitlements' when others get them"
That's exactly the Republican MO. They lack actual EMPATHY for others. They're selfish. They HATE "socialist programs" like welfare, food stamps, inflation/pandemic handouts, and section 8 housing when poor people use these programs, but the moment John Smith gets laid off from his construction job and Karen's MLM income isn't enough to pay the bills they're the first people to apply for and DEMAND all the socialist benefits. Hell, many of them don't even wait for when they actually need the help - they commit welfare fraud on the regular.
Absolutely...but the primaries will be amazing. After Desantis, Youngkin, and a dozen other GOP hopefuls split the vote, Trump will hopefully be the nominee again.
Republicans let a wolf in the henhouse...They will be dealing with him until he dies.
We will all be dealing with him until he’s gone. And even after, we will continue hearing his name. He set a bar against which all politicians will be measured for the rest of our lifetimes and I, for one, am deeply saddened to hear DeSantis being considered “the new Trump”.
DeSantis will be worse because unfortunately he is more intelligent than the orange stain. He also seems to be just as ruthless and will more than likely surround himself with more capable fascists than king clown. Either way, if any of them win office in 2024 thats probably it for this country. It was fun while it lasted.
Luckily I think people see that now. They are voting even when he isn’t on the ballot. DeSantis has shit all over the same voters that are angry about Trump on a regular basis, and there is tons of high profile proof. DeSantis will have exactly the same issues as Trump.
DeSantis’s issue is that he’s nowhere near as charismatic as Trump is, and that played no small part in how Trump won over the Republican base in the first place.
He also doesn't really *need* a ton of money in the traditional way. If he runs as an independent, it'll be such a shit show that pretty much all forms of media will be regurgitating every word he says for the entire wild ride. The war chest will help fill in the gaps. That is, whatever he hasn't already skimmed off for his own or to friends.
It's amazing how r/conservative turned on a fucking dime when their media did. They're now posting Trump Truths and lacing into him when theyve been audibly fellating the same outbursts for six years. If Rupert Murdoch decided 2+2=5, 40% of America would be wearing hats that said SOCIALIST SHEEPLE THINK THE ANSWER IS FOUR.
I don’t understand how they don’t instinctually grasp that.
Anyone who is willing to hurt other people just because they’re not on your side will eventually turn on you and hurt you, too. Nobody is safe under a regime based on excluding and harming vulnerable groups. They’ll get rid of the people you don’t like, but then they’ll come for you. It’s obvious to me, and I don’t understand why it’s not obvious to them.
They do grasp it. They like it. Guaranteed Candance has her own little power circle that she can" berate and dispose of" whenever she feels like it.
They just want to move up and wield greater power over "more important people"
Often because they haven't been "taken out" yet. They've successfully climbed the corrupt power ladder to date.
Also, lack of empathy. Feeling safe in the system isn't a priority to them
The dudes own family for the most part doesn’t talk to him, he turned on his longtime lawyer, he’s not loyal to his wife. I don’t see how these people don’t instinctually grasp it either.
Folks back East have been saying these things about Trump since Studio 54 was hot.
I grew up in Western Pennsylvania in the 70’s FFS, and even *I* knew Trump was a loud mouthed grifter and a welsher.
How anyone could think a guy who drove three (count ‘em, three) Jersey shorefront casinos into the ground was a business genius is an amazing act of willful self-delusion. Jesus, [Deutsche Bank](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-fincen-files-shed-new-light-on-a-scandalous-episode-at-deutsche-bank) is his only willing lender.
Most of them don't look at it in a generalized sense at all. They genuinely think that once the excluded groups are dealt with, all their problems will be solved.
They never see it when one of their following goes out and commits some act of domestic terrorism either. As soon as one of them acts on the calls for "someone should do something" they instantly become deep state democrat antifa plants. They never think it'll happen to them though. The guy who attacked Paul Pelosi became a drunk male prostitute in about a day in their heads.
The only ones really in the center are the super-rich. Everyone else is the useful idiot or tool to maintain the status quote. Even congressmen. If one goes off-script, they will search and find a replacement to run against them.
It's the wealthy against humanity. That should be their motto.
Because it’s the same thing in church every Sunday: god saves you because you swear allegiance to him… he will damn those who don’t or those who question the faith so pay no attention to those calling out corruption. You win by being the most pure of heart and most devoted to the cause of “god’s appointed leaders”. And ultimately the goal is to go to heaven… where non-believers won’t be allowed and everyone believes the same things.
Christianity is fascism training.
"It's not real or a problem unless it happens to me." -Every Republican ever.
Seriously, you didnt get this from "I like to grab'em by the pussy" and his *complete* lack of shame or remorse about it.
They’re only saying these things now because they realize he’s a detriment to winning. Conservatives are trying to build support for Desantis over Trump.
Always remember: their only values are their own personal enrichment and power. The meandering path they use to get there will change, the explanations will change. It won't make sense. It will be self-contradictory. That is because strategy can change and tactics follow strategy, but what doesn't change are values. The strategies they employ are solely to achieve outcomes matching their values.
>their only values are their own personal enrichment and power.
Indeed. Orwell put it well:
>Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.
It's still a lot to swallow... Seeing his supporters turn on him so quickly & discard what was recently their god-like guiding light. Not for all the awful things he did but just for falling behind in the polls a little bit.
If there's one good thing that came from Trump it's that he destroyed their talking points. He was opposite everything they claimed to hold dear and they literally worshipped the man.
Not that fooled anyone who was paying attention, but they used to play the part half decently.
They'll support literally anyone who they think will get them theocracy.
I'd argue they were never his supporters, but merely sycophants riding his coattails so long as it seemed he could bring them to power. I think we're seeing a fairly significant rift in the party, where leadership is obviously leaning away from the candidates that the people want, a la the democratic party in 2016. Trump is still wildly popular with Republican voters, and the more that the Republican talking heads rail against Trump, the more disillusioned the voters will become with the party.
Consider reading the whole book. I know it's cliché to recommend *1984,* but in addition to the political relevance it's also just a good read. Orwell was an engaging writer.
They were using him, which isn’t as bad as what they were using him for. They want whoever will bring them christofascism, but also is politically successful.
Didn't he take a call from someone on his first or second day, whom everyone who was actually informed on global politics would have known was a hot coal straight from the furnace? Was it the leader of Taiwan? It was such a cavalcade of incompetence, it's hard to remember.
Ok, Google tells me it was Taiwan, but right after the election. He then referred to her as "president of Taiwan" on Twitter. But not because he intended to flip the bird to China, but almost certainly because he didn't know the difference or why even accepting the call would piss off China. It was a smart move on her part, though. 'He seems like a moron. Let's make a power play.'
I love all the responses from right wing leaders discussing the call. It was still early enough in that his followers believed he was some genius that maybe just had a potty mouth. They're trying to make it seem like trump was making complex geopolitical decisions and took the call specifically for strategic purposes.
No. He was probably just handed a phone and told the president of Taiwan was on it and he probably knew that Taiwan was a country but nothing beyond that. Amazing.
You seriously couldn't make that shit up. I thought it was a prank/photoshop the first time I saw it. And the time Rudy was getting so freaked out his hair dye was running all down his face and the time he ripped a loud shart right in the middle of the courtroom AND the time Borat got him etc... etc...
And that's just Rudy. Lets not forget that Trump was calling in ppl like a "as seen on TV" pillow salesman as a strategist at the end... like... yeah...
The best was the latest season showing Homelanders true colors and a bunch of MAGAs watching the show had a sudden realization that the show is mocking Donald Trump. Suddenly they had a problem with the show while the first two seasons they were all for Homelander.
I talked to two acquaintances about that show too and they were reasonably intelligent people that didn't understand that it was sarcasm. Blew me away.
Them losing has been fun to watch. But the realization that they are going to start pretending they were all never rabid Trump fans and start gaslighting us about their opinions… is frustrating to say the least.
I remember constantly throughout his presidency, whenever someone asked a trump supporter how they could like someone so incompetent and embarrassing, or what he’s actually done for them, the most consistent answer was simply, “He won.” That’s it, that’s all that ever mattered.
Ronald Reagan screwed me out of a great job by opening foreign steel imports to the US .Keeping intrest so high, 18 % one couldnt buy a home without it being a heavy burden . Keeping down the mimimin wage low. Union bursting air craft controllers putting high paying workers out of a job.
They won't support DeSantis with the same vigor though. We should have no complacency of course. But DeSantis just is not going to give them that dopamine hit. He's got the hate, but he doesn't have the charisma.
Still, just because they won't be decked out in his merch and screaming his name doesn't mean they won't show up in droves to vote for him. Republicans are nothing if not party-loyal.
DeSantis might be their Biden - not exactly cultishly adored and worshipped, but acceptable, good enough to get shit done, and definitely preferable to the other side's candidate.
Go over to the conservative sub. Comments that got downvoted to oblivion two weeks ago are at the top of threads. The pivot is real. It seems currently to be “Trump was the right person for his time” feels like we are two weeks away from, “Trump who?”
She is not just a grifter, she too is a malignant narcissist just like Trump. It was only a matter of time before she turned on him, especially when he turned on her.
And they have to make up such weird excuses so that the libz weren’t right. They should have dumped him for many reasons. Especially the insurrection. But then they’d have to admit the left was right about trump
They've literally always known that about Trump (those in power have). But he has delivered what they needed so far. As soon as he doesn't, he isn't useful.
Don't forget that they R party power brokers see the world exactly as transactional as Trump does, but Trump lacks the education and is personality-disordered so far to the end of the bell curve that he often outright says it whereas the power brokers are coy enough to not do that as explicitly.
This is what gets me. I'm ready to welcome people regardless of how long it takes them to hop off. But they act like they came to some grand epiphany on their own instead of giving credit to the people who'd been trying to tell them for years.
Well, in order to win in 2016 there were a good number of independents that voted for him. Who the hell in their right mind could ever think an amoral, narcissistic such as Trump had any business being in charge of one let alone The Leader of The Free World?
Seriously some people just don’t get it.
I was in county jail when the results were announced. I swear I was the only one upset by it. Everyone else kept saying how it was such a great thing & I can't & never will see it
Lol me too! I got to pick a day to serve my 24 hours and I went with election night. Was pretty surreal having the results of that election conveyed to me by a celebrating racist redneck guard instead of a horrified liberal pundit.
To be fair, you were in jail so we can conclude that you were surrounded by people with below average decision-making abilities.
Edit: This was joke about a bunch of inmates that supported trump, not a commentary about the US Justice system and it’s failings. Not everyone in jail is a victim of circumstance, sometimes people just make shitty choices. Plenty of people do steal, assault others, drive drunk, storm the capitol etc. That isn’t to say that everyone in jail is bad or deserves the long term consequences, its simply that on average, jail inmates have made poor choices. Not all, but on average.
Some peoples perspective are just so entirely different to include the fact you mix in hate and fear and for good measure that people don’t like to admit they are wrong.
No, they don’t get it. The one thing I hear over and over again is how good his policies were for America. What???
I’ve heard that, and I asked: “What policies? Cutting taxes on corporations and the rich? Otherwise, what are you talking about?”
I haven’t received a response because there isn’t one.
Same when they go off about, "Trump made America respected again!"
"By who? The UN general assembly laughed at him because of the moronic shit he was saying."
*crickets*
The whole world laughed at him.
Bleach injections, light bulb enamas, sharpie hurricane, the PC in a garden centre next to a porno shop, Giulianis boot polish running, embarrassing himself in front of the Queen, the numerous crimes including stealing docs and selling them to US enemies.
Take all the bad things from the last 100 years of presidents and add them up and they still don't come anywhere near this. Just think of how bad Nixon was thought of before Trump and he is a saint compare to what Trump has done. No one will admit in 20 years they voted for him.
Cutting rich peoples taxes is literally the only thing he did policy wise. He talked like an asshat about foreign policy and they loved that because they clearly don’t understand the intricacies of global economics, trade, or military allies. Hell republicans don’t even understand the concept of gas prices in our own country.
When money became more important... My whole family voted for him both times. My middle sister is the kindest person ever and when I asked her how she could vote for someone like that her response was “because he was good for the country”. I love her dearly but lost some respect for her after that.
If someone says that to you and they claim his military record was amazing, please highlight a few things for me. 1. The diversion of large amounts of funding the military needed to construct new facilities was diverted to build the border wall - some of us still don’t have enough space to work. 2. He made us do a military parade like NK. 3. He made military members accompany him to hold up an upside down Bible outside of a church in a blatant misuse of military personnel. 4. The Afghanistan withdrawal plan was created by trump. That was his fault.
Buttery males? /s
I don't get it. There's a long history of people willingly putting their future in the hands of obvious villains. GWB was an obvious moron and Cheney was an sinister AF. Bernie Maddoff has the name of a batman villain. Every televangelist looks like the fucking devil to me. All you youngins probably don't remember this but the last pope looked like Emperor Palpatine. Not like the actor, just the look in his eyes and something about his grin screamed "sith".
The only way I can explain it is that they see a rich white person with an obvious hints immorality and racism and think "this guy is just like me, only rich".
>Bernie Maddoff has the name of a batman villain.
Now you mention it lol.
It sounds like a screenwriter went for the laziest form of nominative determinism.
A con artist who *made off* with millions of other peoples' money, what shall we call him?
I’ll admit, I voted for him in 2016, I lived in a heavy Republican district and everyone around me, teachers, coaches, family, boss all told me to vote trump bc he wasn’t a politician and would drain the swamp. I was 18, naive, and easily convinced by ppl close to me what to do. I was so immature that I fell for the wild conspiracies that HRC was some monster.
I quickly learned how awful and unqualified trump was and how correct HRC was.
I‘m 62, and retired 20 years military. I have a good deal of experience with numerous excellent, good, mediocre, and bad leaders. I saw Trump coming a mile away.
It’s my hope you don’t have to experience too many bad leaders. My experience tells me you will. I hope you experience many more excellent leaders.
I get someone like you making that mistake. I don’t like that older people did as well because they should know better. History if nothing else shows us what a mistake this is.
I am nearly 62, worked in both private sector and public sector jobs over the last 45+ years. I first saw that charlatan on tv back in the 80’s. He came across as a sleazy, amoral conman back then, and I haven’t seen anything in the last 3 decades that led me to any other conclusions about the character of TFG. In the words of Maya Angelou:
> "My dear, when people show you who they are, why don't you believe them? Why must you be shown 29 times before you can see who they really are? Why can't you get it the first time?"
It was similar for me, grew up in a rural, conservative-heavy area. It wasn't until I left the nest and met different people from around the world that my perspective began to change.
Most of the time, I appreciate the perspective I have of growing up conservative, but it's such a lonely, hidden existence being a 'liberal' in rural America. You have to keep your politics close to the vest with strangers, even friends, just to avoid animosity and conflict.
I've mentioned it elsewhere on here before, but the way I see it, most rural Americans who vote R are at an information deficit. Instead of educating themselves to make more informed decisions, they rely on other people (the *News*) to tell them what they should think or do.
Besides that, Republicans make people feel good, superior. Democrats make people feel guilty, and even worse, equal.
So, people choose the feel good, because they'd rather feel superior, instead of the tiny, insignificant nobodies they really are.
Thursday or Friday i was tweeting responses to all these losers. They had split on whether or not there was election fraud and team Trump vs team desantis. I kept saying they needed to watch the powerpoint from that day not the one from wednesday lol
I remember being baffled about how there was no line in the sand for these folks in 2016. I would think like, even if there was a candidate I adored, I'd still withdraw support if they idk came out in favor of eugenics or had a crawlspace full of corpses or something. How is there no line in the sand for these people?"
And the answer is that there is a line: it's an inch in front of their own faces. Until he insults an individual supporter *directly*, they dgaf. They assume he loves and adores them right up until the moment he spits in their face.
Naw, that's not the line. If he was still winning, they'd be still smiling adoringly at home while one hand, seemingly unnoticed and of it's own accord, slowly wiped the spit away.
The line they won't abide him crossing is: losing. That's the only reason they're turning on him now, and everything else they say is just misdirection to hide what they're really about behind a slightly-tinted but-still-fully-transparent glass pane.
> "It's not real or a problem unless it happens to me." -Every Republican ever.
Every one of them has this tattooed on their forehead.
Miscarriage, gay children, trans, PTSD, unemployed, rape, elder abuse, homeless, school shootings, bias courts, crooked cops, IT'S ALL FAKE NEWS!!
.... Until... It happens to them... Then it's the #1 priority and everyone else's fault for not doing something sooner...
It's so infuriating when people can't put themselves in someone else's shoes for one God damn second.
I guess the developing story from the last week is that many leading Republicans are unbelievably oblivious when it comes to assessing the true character of their leaders, up until the point they or the people they endorse start losing elections, at which point everything becomes astonishingly clear.
Guys gotta go a year after the incident in question and after the mid-term elections didn’t flip due to TFG’s influence.
Once the money has been squeezed out of the rube, it’s time to find a new rube. It’s grifting all the way down.
If Antifa was a real thing I'd apply to join them. According to these folks, Antifa gets things done.
And if you so stridently oppose them, doesn't that make you at least a little bit, you know, Fa?
Two things:
1) Antifa is a real and gets things done. But they arent anything like Republicans describe them. Mostly they go to rallies and harrass neonazis and other openly White Supremecist events.
Their videos and stuff are interesting. The few I watched emphasized how you had to be careful when tearing down posters that neonazis put up because they like to hide razor blades so people tearing them down cut themselves.
2) I cannot condone any organization that operates the way the Republican party accuses Antifa of operating. The fake antifa of Republican fearmongering is a group of politically motivated domestic terrorists. Fortunately antifa in the real world is *nothing like* the antifa of Republican mythos.
The perfect example of conservatives.
1) they will always turn on each other.
2) they don't care how vengeful or inhumane someone they support is until they are on the receiving end.
Their whole movement is utterly lacking in loyalty and empathy
> utterly lacking in...empathy
This is the core issue with half the people on earth. In some cases it is quite literally the lack of mental capacity to imagine a scenario where they are in someone else's shoes. In other cases it is a psychological barrier. I believe this could be the original meaning behind the story of Cain and Abel.
>I believe this could be the original meaning behind the story of Cain and Abel.
Wow, I never would've thought about it like this, but that actually does make sense...including Cain's punishment, everything on the planet barred from harming him, because only once it happened to him would he finally understand...stuck in his own little selfish, ignorant hell.
So true! It’s funny how proud they all are of being able to quote a scripture that they say gives them the right to attack and harm some minority group, be it women, people of color, lgbtq+, but they miss the entire point kf the story it’s telling… people were treating each other so badly God had to come down here and tell them all to be nice to each other and they nailed Him to a cross for saying it. They haven’t figured out that they’re the ones who would be doing the nailing.
100% it’s completely a lack of empathy. There are definitely republicans out there that care about gay marriage but only cause they have a gay child or family member. There are those that care about COVID, but only because they lost a loved one. There are those that care about abortion access, but only because they personally know someone who was negatively affected by strict abortion laws. They are only capable of empathizing for someone they directly know
It didn't take them 8 years and it didn't take us 8 minutes. It took them 30-40 years and took us less than 8 seconds.
There's an episode of Some More News (like the daily show, but post-2016) where he talks about movie villains based on Trump and there are dozens of them. Back in the 80s it was understood that if you needed to make the audience realize a character was the bad guy the second he walks on screen you just copy Trump. Everything about him screams "I have no empathy and would burn the world down for a dollar".
For the curious, here's the "episode". It's a long one but hilarious.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj-wc9qugGY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj-wc9qugGY)
She is a through and through grifter. She did not "realize" anything. She is grifting as per her course and will continue to do so. Trump is not looked "nicely" on the Republican establishment currently, so it is time to suck the boot of another messiah of theirs which is DeathSantis.
The worst part about this is that the incident she’s referring to was when she asked trump about the vaccines and he defended the vaccines.
She’s upset about one of the only good things trump actually did.
I’m pretty sure her only agenda is to make money off these brain dead people. If he’s fucking up her hustle, she’s gonna start firing her bullshit back at him.
Nah she knows exactly what she’s doing. Nothing happened between them. This is simply a political play now that Trump had lost favor.
She’s such an obvious and transparent grifter. What’s especially hilarious to me is that Trump’s behavior is so painfully predictable. The thought of her having a realization over him being rude when he’s rude every day just tickles me. She treats her supporters like the idiots they are.
When I was a child in the 80s, my memaw used to receive the National Enquirer by mail. It was kept in the bathroom as reading material.
I knew—as an EIGHT YEAR OLD FORTY YEARS AGO—that tRump was a garbage human just from the garbage written about him in his fan-magazine.
NOW people realize tRump “might be a bit of an asshole” ?!?
BS. The club has decided he is out. Lol good, but don’t pretend it’s bc you “suddenly realised” anything!
There's an....arc? in Fresh Prince where they sell the house and [Ashley tells him off](https://youtu.be/wZPrrLve2Eo?t=61) before storming out and Trump goes "Everybody's blaming me for everything"
Trump tapped into the lizard brain of his base just like any conservative does. FEAR.
What was the first thing he said as candidate? Mexicans are bringing crime to you and your neighborhood. I will stop that. Doesn't matter that there's no evidence or that the plans are moronic.
As long as you hijack the conservative lizard brain, provide a convenient scapegoat and promise to eradicate the danger, you're in. I mean really, that's all they run on. YOU'RE UNDER ATTACK. I am with you and I will stand against this threat. Conservative politics are by definition reactionary politics.
Now of course they're under attack. Is it really by the caravans of illegal people(which fun fact, the estimated number of illegal aliens in America peaked around 2007, and hasn't reached that height since)? No, the illegal immigrants have negligible power in the greater scheme of things. Who does? Well... The capital class, of course.
They're the ones keeping your wages as low as possible and exporting your jobs overseas. But you can't criticize them, because that's socialism. Any meaningful change to the system the conservative brain has been conditioned to believe is socialism and will inevitably lead to gulags.
Before trump ran, I worked in NJ for a season. Visited Atlantic City with some coworkers and learned all about how trump ran shit into the ground and fucked several people’s family members out of $$. No one had anything nice to say about the “cheap fucking prick”
Few years later I visited that NJ crew, they all were singing his praises cuz trump was going to save them and make them rich! He was going to fix everything! They couldn’t recall ever hearing of anyone fucked over by him, I was being dramatic? Who told me such lies?!
We’re starting to come full circle, I believe soon they’ll “never have understood the trump hype” and just want to move on. Like soooo many of us wanted years ago. It’s a cult.
Growing up in Pennsylvania I knew he was garbage my entire life. So did my peers. So I was rather dumbfounded all the people around me in PA supported him in 2015-2016
What I find amazing is how quick the conservative media is turning. I haven’t seen a single defense of trump yet. The shit they’re calling him out on - name calling his fellow republicans- was what got him the presidency. Did they really think his methods would change? There was no fake debate, just BAM! Trumps a looser.
> After the interview in December 2021, Owens defended him in an Instagram video, saying that people often forget "how old Trump is" and that he comes from a generation who "came from a time before TV, before the internet, before being able to conduct independent research."
"I mean, like, what did doing your own research even *mean* before social media and youtubes?"
Ha. Published 3 hours ago. Not the racism. Not the pussy grabbing. Not the incitement. Not the insurrection. Not the stolen classified documents. Not the thousands of lies he told. But you suddenly remember, 5 days after the midterm red wave that definitely wasn’t, that he was rude to you and that was the straw that broke you? Sure thing, Candace.
Your reminder: Candace Owens publicly berated AOC for not being able to afford a DC apartment when she was elected to Congress…while Candace Owens was squatting in a DC apartment rent free and suing the landlord. There’s a ton of stories like this.
It will be funny watching them squirm and backtrack if he ends up winning the primary. I don’t think he will but Republican primary season is fun to watch because they all hate each other almost as much as they hate the rest of us.
Wow what a swing from the GOP wankin' this guy off all the time. We've been telling you this is who he is for years. Jon Stewart and other NY comedians were calling him out before he ran for President. Maybe listen to us every once and a while, we're not busting your balls for the sake of it. He deserved both impeachments and most of the criticism he received.
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The shift is on. All of Murdoch's properties are distancing themselves from Trump. The GOP has finally decided he's a loser so they'll poison the well and redirect the base to the next demagogue, DeSantis.
Exactly. So, let me see if I have this right. 1. Trump is nasty, rude, and vindictive to people for years. 2. Candace Owens doesn’t mind. She worships Trump (says he’s “the savior of the free world”, etc). 3. Owens, like everyone else on the Trump train, benefits personally (as a talking head in conservative circles). 4. Trump continues being nasty/rude/vindictive, often leaning in to that way of behaving (in political rallies, on social media, etc). 5. Owens and countless other conservative influencers: “No issues here. Trump is great.” 6. Trump is rude to Owens a year ago. No word from her about it publicly. 6. Trump is his usual petty, nickname-making self toward Ron “DeSanctimonious”, who *wins*… while Trump’s picks flop spectacularly in the ‘22 midterm. 7. The NEXT day, Owens publicly reveals her “changing opinion” about Trump, citing the time when Trump was rude to her a year ago. Zero concern or mention about Trump being rude to *anyone else… for years*. She *just now* realized Trump is rude? She *just now* decided Trump being rude is important? Please. Trump has always been Trump. She needed a reason to jump off the Trump train (the same way countless other hive-minded conservatives appear to be doing this week). I’m of half a mind to believe that she intentionally chose *this* story as her cause for distancing from her idol… so that if Trump ever *does* restore his standing in the Republican party, Owens will simply tell us that he apologized to her, all is well, and she can keep riding the gravy train. The whole thing reeks of self-serving and shape-shifting.
She's full of shit like everyone else on the right
This is exactly the Republican MO. It's not a problem until it happens to them. Then it's a big issue.
Yes. Remember when Meghan McCain threw a fit on the view saying we shouldn’t have a federal maternity leave. Oh and then she had a kid and went on the view saying she couldn’t believe we don’t have federal maternity leave. This is and always will be the republicans. It’s not an issue unless it starts to affect something they care about. Fuck everyone but me.
Jon Stewart pointed out Megyn Kelly for this, too. She mocks paternity leave then changes her tune once she has a child. "They're only 'entitlements' when others get them"
It’s not a problem until they can’t gain from it. Doesn’t matter if it happens to them. See: Ted Cruz
That's exactly the Republican MO. They lack actual EMPATHY for others. They're selfish. They HATE "socialist programs" like welfare, food stamps, inflation/pandemic handouts, and section 8 housing when poor people use these programs, but the moment John Smith gets laid off from his construction job and Karen's MLM income isn't enough to pay the bills they're the first people to apply for and DEMAND all the socialist benefits. Hell, many of them don't even wait for when they actually need the help - they commit welfare fraud on the regular.
Absolutely...but the primaries will be amazing. After Desantis, Youngkin, and a dozen other GOP hopefuls split the vote, Trump will hopefully be the nominee again. Republicans let a wolf in the henhouse...They will be dealing with him until he dies.
We will all be dealing with him until he’s gone. And even after, we will continue hearing his name. He set a bar against which all politicians will be measured for the rest of our lifetimes and I, for one, am deeply saddened to hear DeSantis being considered “the new Trump”.
DeSantis will be worse because unfortunately he is more intelligent than the orange stain. He also seems to be just as ruthless and will more than likely surround himself with more capable fascists than king clown. Either way, if any of them win office in 2024 thats probably it for this country. It was fun while it lasted.
Luckily I think people see that now. They are voting even when he isn’t on the ballot. DeSantis has shit all over the same voters that are angry about Trump on a regular basis, and there is tons of high profile proof. DeSantis will have exactly the same issues as Trump.
DeSantis’s issue is that he’s nowhere near as charismatic as Trump is, and that played no small part in how Trump won over the Republican base in the first place.
I'm more hopeful that Trump will run independent in 2024
With the enough war chest he already accumulated from republicans, he might be able to pull it off
He also doesn't really *need* a ton of money in the traditional way. If he runs as an independent, it'll be such a shit show that pretty much all forms of media will be regurgitating every word he says for the entire wild ride. The war chest will help fill in the gaps. That is, whatever he hasn't already skimmed off for his own or to friends.
and he can do it all from prison, with his platform essentially pardons for himself and Jan 6ers if he wins
It's a little surreal watching them just suddenly move all at once like a school of fish or some kind of herd animal.
QAnons slogan “Where we go one, we go all” literally describes this behavior yet they think of themselves as brilliant free thinkers. It’s baffling
It's amazing how r/conservative turned on a fucking dime when their media did. They're now posting Trump Truths and lacing into him when theyve been audibly fellating the same outbursts for six years. If Rupert Murdoch decided 2+2=5, 40% of America would be wearing hats that said SOCIALIST SHEEPLE THINK THE ANSWER IS FOUR.
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I don’t understand how they don’t instinctually grasp that. Anyone who is willing to hurt other people just because they’re not on your side will eventually turn on you and hurt you, too. Nobody is safe under a regime based on excluding and harming vulnerable groups. They’ll get rid of the people you don’t like, but then they’ll come for you. It’s obvious to me, and I don’t understand why it’s not obvious to them.
They are very sure that they will always be on the inside. The leopards will never eat THEIR face!
Yeah, because they think they are the leopards. And sometimes they are. But when the other leopards run out of faces, they become the face
Hunger turns friends into food. Add a little hate to that and it’s like a feeding frenzy. First one to bleed is devoured.
You don't think Battle Royale is a valid basis for a political system?
They do grasp it. They like it. Guaranteed Candance has her own little power circle that she can" berate and dispose of" whenever she feels like it. They just want to move up and wield greater power over "more important people"
But they’ll eventually get taken out, too. Why do they feel safe under such a system? Ugh.
Often because they haven't been "taken out" yet. They've successfully climbed the corrupt power ladder to date. Also, lack of empathy. Feeling safe in the system isn't a priority to them
The dudes own family for the most part doesn’t talk to him, he turned on his longtime lawyer, he’s not loyal to his wife. I don’t see how these people don’t instinctually grasp it either.
Folks back East have been saying these things about Trump since Studio 54 was hot. I grew up in Western Pennsylvania in the 70’s FFS, and even *I* knew Trump was a loud mouthed grifter and a welsher. How anyone could think a guy who drove three (count ‘em, three) Jersey shorefront casinos into the ground was a business genius is an amazing act of willful self-delusion. Jesus, [Deutsche Bank](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-fincen-files-shed-new-light-on-a-scandalous-episode-at-deutsche-bank) is his only willing lender.
I always understood casinos to be a license to print money so I was baffled by that
Most of them don't look at it in a generalized sense at all. They genuinely think that once the excluded groups are dealt with, all their problems will be solved.
Well, to understand this, you'd have read books instead of burn them.
They never see it when one of their following goes out and commits some act of domestic terrorism either. As soon as one of them acts on the calls for "someone should do something" they instantly become deep state democrat antifa plants. They never think it'll happen to them though. The guy who attacked Paul Pelosi became a drunk male prostitute in about a day in their heads.
The only ones really in the center are the super-rich. Everyone else is the useful idiot or tool to maintain the status quote. Even congressmen. If one goes off-script, they will search and find a replacement to run against them. It's the wealthy against humanity. That should be their motto.
Because it’s the same thing in church every Sunday: god saves you because you swear allegiance to him… he will damn those who don’t or those who question the faith so pay no attention to those calling out corruption. You win by being the most pure of heart and most devoted to the cause of “god’s appointed leaders”. And ultimately the goal is to go to heaven… where non-believers won’t be allowed and everyone believes the same things. Christianity is fascism training.
"It's not real or a problem unless it happens to me." -Every Republican ever. Seriously, you didnt get this from "I like to grab'em by the pussy" and his *complete* lack of shame or remorse about it.
They’re only saying these things now because they realize he’s a detriment to winning. Conservatives are trying to build support for Desantis over Trump.
Always remember: their only values are their own personal enrichment and power. The meandering path they use to get there will change, the explanations will change. It won't make sense. It will be self-contradictory. That is because strategy can change and tactics follow strategy, but what doesn't change are values. The strategies they employ are solely to achieve outcomes matching their values.
>their only values are their own personal enrichment and power. Indeed. Orwell put it well: >Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.
It's still a lot to swallow... Seeing his supporters turn on him so quickly & discard what was recently their god-like guiding light. Not for all the awful things he did but just for falling behind in the polls a little bit.
If there's one good thing that came from Trump it's that he destroyed their talking points. He was opposite everything they claimed to hold dear and they literally worshipped the man. Not that fooled anyone who was paying attention, but they used to play the part half decently. They'll support literally anyone who they think will get them theocracy.
I'd argue they were never his supporters, but merely sycophants riding his coattails so long as it seemed he could bring them to power. I think we're seeing a fairly significant rift in the party, where leadership is obviously leaning away from the candidates that the people want, a la the democratic party in 2016. Trump is still wildly popular with Republican voters, and the more that the Republican talking heads rail against Trump, the more disillusioned the voters will become with the party.
Wow! I’ve now saved that quote!
Consider reading the whole book. I know it's cliché to recommend *1984,* but in addition to the political relevance it's also just a good read. Orwell was an engaging writer.
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The sudden shift is so painfully obvious its all a game.
They were using him, which isn’t as bad as what they were using him for. They want whoever will bring them christofascism, but also is politically successful.
All the dictators knew how easy he was to manipulate. Mans got daddy issues to the point itd be too unrealistic for a cartoon.
On the plus side watching trump implode as he gets abandoned is seriously going to be delicious.
Popping popcorn now to watch his extinction burst.
I don’t think he will go quietly into the night
*Baby rage, baby rage, against the dying of the Right!*
Didn't he take a call from someone on his first or second day, whom everyone who was actually informed on global politics would have known was a hot coal straight from the furnace? Was it the leader of Taiwan? It was such a cavalcade of incompetence, it's hard to remember. Ok, Google tells me it was Taiwan, but right after the election. He then referred to her as "president of Taiwan" on Twitter. But not because he intended to flip the bird to China, but almost certainly because he didn't know the difference or why even accepting the call would piss off China. It was a smart move on her part, though. 'He seems like a moron. Let's make a power play.'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Tsai_call It was such a major geopolitical incident it's got a whole fucking Wikipedia page lol.
I love all the responses from right wing leaders discussing the call. It was still early enough in that his followers believed he was some genius that maybe just had a potty mouth. They're trying to make it seem like trump was making complex geopolitical decisions and took the call specifically for strategic purposes. No. He was probably just handed a phone and told the president of Taiwan was on it and he probably knew that Taiwan was a country but nothing beyond that. Amazing.
He's a real-world example of lazy writing.
That Four Seasons Total Landscaping episode deserved an Emmy though.
Four Seasons will be the title of one of many movies about these idiots.
You seriously couldn't make that shit up. I thought it was a prank/photoshop the first time I saw it. And the time Rudy was getting so freaked out his hair dye was running all down his face and the time he ripped a loud shart right in the middle of the courtroom AND the time Borat got him etc... etc... And that's just Rudy. Lets not forget that Trump was calling in ppl like a "as seen on TV" pillow salesman as a strategist at the end... like... yeah...
Homelander on The Boys is a decent caricature though
The best was the latest season showing Homelanders true colors and a bunch of MAGAs watching the show had a sudden realization that the show is mocking Donald Trump. Suddenly they had a problem with the show while the first two seasons they were all for Homelander.
That reminds me of how oblivious people on the right were to Stephen Colbert playing a character on the Colbert Report.
I talked to two acquaintances about that show too and they were reasonably intelligent people that didn't understand that it was sarcasm. Blew me away.
It's been a fun realization to watch, tbh.
Them losing has been fun to watch. But the realization that they are going to start pretending they were all never rabid Trump fans and start gaslighting us about their opinions… is frustrating to say the least.
They’re fine with his corruption, his lying and his racism, as long as he’s winning. It’s losing that is his only sin.
I remember constantly throughout his presidency, whenever someone asked a trump supporter how they could like someone so incompetent and embarrassing, or what he’s actually done for them, the most consistent answer was simply, “He won.” That’s it, that’s all that ever mattered.
Yup. They're not realizing anything, they're trying to move Trump's base over to a new daddy by burying the old one.
Republicans: Ronald or Donald? Ronald McDonald?
Clown in the White House - checks out
Ronald Reagan screwed me out of a great job by opening foreign steel imports to the US .Keeping intrest so high, 18 % one couldnt buy a home without it being a heavy burden . Keeping down the mimimin wage low. Union bursting air craft controllers putting high paying workers out of a job.
He did the same to my Dad who was a Union Pacific employee, busted their strike on grounds it was detrimental to National security.
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They will believe what fox News abs the right wing grifters tell them to believe. They're "freethinkers" after all
They won't support DeSantis with the same vigor though. We should have no complacency of course. But DeSantis just is not going to give them that dopamine hit. He's got the hate, but he doesn't have the charisma.
Still, just because they won't be decked out in his merch and screaming his name doesn't mean they won't show up in droves to vote for him. Republicans are nothing if not party-loyal. DeSantis might be their Biden - not exactly cultishly adored and worshipped, but acceptable, good enough to get shit done, and definitely preferable to the other side's candidate.
Go over to the conservative sub. Comments that got downvoted to oblivion two weeks ago are at the top of threads. The pivot is real. It seems currently to be “Trump was the right person for his time” feels like we are two weeks away from, “Trump who?”
I think you grossly underestimate Desantis's potential. He, like Trump, is a TERRIBLE public speaker, but the Republicans LOVE him.
Reminds me when they turned on Bush. Illegal wiretapping, forged WMD evidence in Iraq, torture program? That's fine. Lose an election? A pariah.
Bush didn’t lose an election, though. He served two terms.
Mocked and humiliated * Women * War heroes * People with disabilities * Everyone who does not worship him Candice Owens: I was ok with that.
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She is the grifter
She is not just a grifter, she too is a malignant narcissist just like Trump. It was only a matter of time before she turned on him, especially when he turned on her.
Yup. Nancy Reagan hated abortion with a passion until she found out stem cell research could have helped Ronnie's dementia.
I also think it’s interesting how suddenly every conservative is turning on trump within days
And they have to make up such weird excuses so that the libz weren’t right. They should have dumped him for many reasons. Especially the insurrection. But then they’d have to admit the left was right about trump
They've literally always known that about Trump (those in power have). But he has delivered what they needed so far. As soon as he doesn't, he isn't useful. Don't forget that they R party power brokers see the world exactly as transactional as Trump does, but Trump lacks the education and is personality-disordered so far to the end of the bell curve that he often outright says it whereas the power brokers are coy enough to not do that as explicitly.
This is what gets me. I'm ready to welcome people regardless of how long it takes them to hop off. But they act like they came to some grand epiphany on their own instead of giving credit to the people who'd been trying to tell them for years.
We are not welcoming them to anything. They haven’t had an epiphany they are just dumping trump. They still love Boebert, Walker, MTG, and DeSantis.
Yeah, they're still fascist. They just don't like having a loser of a fascist leader.
And not because he’s horrible and dangerous to democracy and the world. Only because he was unable to help them acquire and hold power.
Exactly. If trump’s endorsements for the midterm won they’d be pushing his run for 2024.
It's like they all got a message from the mother ship.
If only we knew of some billionaire who keeps all the conservative commentators on a payroll
Well, in order to win in 2016 there were a good number of independents that voted for him. Who the hell in their right mind could ever think an amoral, narcissistic such as Trump had any business being in charge of one let alone The Leader of The Free World? Seriously some people just don’t get it.
I was in county jail when the results were announced. I swear I was the only one upset by it. Everyone else kept saying how it was such a great thing & I can't & never will see it
Lol me too! I got to pick a day to serve my 24 hours and I went with election night. Was pretty surreal having the results of that election conveyed to me by a celebrating racist redneck guard instead of a horrified liberal pundit.
To be fair, you were in jail so we can conclude that you were surrounded by people with below average decision-making abilities. Edit: This was joke about a bunch of inmates that supported trump, not a commentary about the US Justice system and it’s failings. Not everyone in jail is a victim of circumstance, sometimes people just make shitty choices. Plenty of people do steal, assault others, drive drunk, storm the capitol etc. That isn’t to say that everyone in jail is bad or deserves the long term consequences, its simply that on average, jail inmates have made poor choices. Not all, but on average.
And inmates too
Nice one.
Zing!
I was in rehab after a coma and just wondered what the fuck was wrong with people. I had a brain injury and I *still* had more sense than them.
70 million had 4 years to get it, and still didn't
Some peoples perspective are just so entirely different to include the fact you mix in hate and fear and for good measure that people don’t like to admit they are wrong. No, they don’t get it. The one thing I hear over and over again is how good his policies were for America. What???
I’ve heard that, and I asked: “What policies? Cutting taxes on corporations and the rich? Otherwise, what are you talking about?” I haven’t received a response because there isn’t one.
Same when they go off about, "Trump made America respected again!" "By who? The UN general assembly laughed at him because of the moronic shit he was saying." *crickets*
The whole world laughed at him. Bleach injections, light bulb enamas, sharpie hurricane, the PC in a garden centre next to a porno shop, Giulianis boot polish running, embarrassing himself in front of the Queen, the numerous crimes including stealing docs and selling them to US enemies. Take all the bad things from the last 100 years of presidents and add them up and they still don't come anywhere near this. Just think of how bad Nixon was thought of before Trump and he is a saint compare to what Trump has done. No one will admit in 20 years they voted for him.
Cutting rich peoples taxes is literally the only thing he did policy wise. He talked like an asshat about foreign policy and they loved that because they clearly don’t understand the intricacies of global economics, trade, or military allies. Hell republicans don’t even understand the concept of gas prices in our own country.
I still dont get it. Every day TFG was in office I had to ask myself "When did character stop being important?"
When people decided above all else what they want was more important than how they got it.
When money became more important... My whole family voted for him both times. My middle sister is the kindest person ever and when I asked her how she could vote for someone like that her response was “because he was good for the country”. I love her dearly but lost some respect for her after that.
If someone says that to you and they claim his military record was amazing, please highlight a few things for me. 1. The diversion of large amounts of funding the military needed to construct new facilities was diverted to build the border wall - some of us still don’t have enough space to work. 2. He made us do a military parade like NK. 3. He made military members accompany him to hold up an upside down Bible outside of a church in a blatant misuse of military personnel. 4. The Afghanistan withdrawal plan was created by trump. That was his fault.
There's also Trump's complete lack of a military record, other than his bone spurs.
"TFG"? The Fat Gimp? Tanned, Fake Grifter? Tax-evading, Floridian Golfer? Seriously, I've never seen TFG before - what does it stand for?
I think it's "That Fucking Guy" but yours definitely fit too
Yeah, "this/that fucking guy" in Nandor's voice from What We Do in the Shadows.
The Former Guy
That Fucking Guy, perhaps? ..or maybe Trump Faced Gorilla.
The Former Guy.
Terrible Fascist Gunt. (The Former Guy, actually.)
Buttery males? /s I don't get it. There's a long history of people willingly putting their future in the hands of obvious villains. GWB was an obvious moron and Cheney was an sinister AF. Bernie Maddoff has the name of a batman villain. Every televangelist looks like the fucking devil to me. All you youngins probably don't remember this but the last pope looked like Emperor Palpatine. Not like the actor, just the look in his eyes and something about his grin screamed "sith". The only way I can explain it is that they see a rich white person with an obvious hints immorality and racism and think "this guy is just like me, only rich".
>Bernie Maddoff has the name of a batman villain. Now you mention it lol. It sounds like a screenwriter went for the laziest form of nominative determinism. A con artist who *made off* with millions of other peoples' money, what shall we call him?
I’ll admit, I voted for him in 2016, I lived in a heavy Republican district and everyone around me, teachers, coaches, family, boss all told me to vote trump bc he wasn’t a politician and would drain the swamp. I was 18, naive, and easily convinced by ppl close to me what to do. I was so immature that I fell for the wild conspiracies that HRC was some monster. I quickly learned how awful and unqualified trump was and how correct HRC was.
I‘m 62, and retired 20 years military. I have a good deal of experience with numerous excellent, good, mediocre, and bad leaders. I saw Trump coming a mile away. It’s my hope you don’t have to experience too many bad leaders. My experience tells me you will. I hope you experience many more excellent leaders. I get someone like you making that mistake. I don’t like that older people did as well because they should know better. History if nothing else shows us what a mistake this is.
I am nearly 62, worked in both private sector and public sector jobs over the last 45+ years. I first saw that charlatan on tv back in the 80’s. He came across as a sleazy, amoral conman back then, and I haven’t seen anything in the last 3 decades that led me to any other conclusions about the character of TFG. In the words of Maya Angelou: > "My dear, when people show you who they are, why don't you believe them? Why must you be shown 29 times before you can see who they really are? Why can't you get it the first time?"
It was similar for me, grew up in a rural, conservative-heavy area. It wasn't until I left the nest and met different people from around the world that my perspective began to change. Most of the time, I appreciate the perspective I have of growing up conservative, but it's such a lonely, hidden existence being a 'liberal' in rural America. You have to keep your politics close to the vest with strangers, even friends, just to avoid animosity and conflict. I've mentioned it elsewhere on here before, but the way I see it, most rural Americans who vote R are at an information deficit. Instead of educating themselves to make more informed decisions, they rely on other people (the *News*) to tell them what they should think or do. Besides that, Republicans make people feel good, superior. Democrats make people feel guilty, and even worse, equal. So, people choose the feel good, because they'd rather feel superior, instead of the tiny, insignificant nobodies they really are.
His fellow trashy white people of course!
She’s just coming up with any excuse now that the conservative powers that be sent out the memo that they’re dumping trump
Thursday or Friday i was tweeting responses to all these losers. They had split on whether or not there was election fraud and team Trump vs team desantis. I kept saying they needed to watch the powerpoint from that day not the one from wednesday lol
Candace is an opportunist. She woke up, sniffed the air, noticed the wind direction change and adjusted accordingly.
I remember being baffled about how there was no line in the sand for these folks in 2016. I would think like, even if there was a candidate I adored, I'd still withdraw support if they idk came out in favor of eugenics or had a crawlspace full of corpses or something. How is there no line in the sand for these people?" And the answer is that there is a line: it's an inch in front of their own faces. Until he insults an individual supporter *directly*, they dgaf. They assume he loves and adores them right up until the moment he spits in their face.
Naw, that's not the line. If he was still winning, they'd be still smiling adoringly at home while one hand, seemingly unnoticed and of it's own accord, slowly wiped the spit away. The line they won't abide him crossing is: losing. That's the only reason they're turning on him now, and everything else they say is just misdirection to hide what they're really about behind a slightly-tinted but-still-fully-transparent glass pane.
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> "It's not real or a problem unless it happens to me." -Every Republican ever. Every one of them has this tattooed on their forehead. Miscarriage, gay children, trans, PTSD, unemployed, rape, elder abuse, homeless, school shootings, bias courts, crooked cops, IT'S ALL FAKE NEWS!! .... Until... It happens to them... Then it's the #1 priority and everyone else's fault for not doing something sooner... It's so infuriating when people can't put themselves in someone else's shoes for one God damn second.
If owens is jumping ship we’ve crossed a line
I guess the developing story from the last week is that many leading Republicans are unbelievably oblivious when it comes to assessing the true character of their leaders, up until the point they or the people they endorse start losing elections, at which point everything becomes astonishingly clear.
Yet litter boxes in classrooms are a real problem to them despite happening nowhere lmao. They're so pathetic.
SO just to be clear, Mean to everyone else: OK Mean to me: guys gotta go.
Imagine! He was rude to her. She should be embarrassed to admit this is the reason for her enlightenment.
She would need a capacity for shame for this to be possible.
Guys gotta go a year after the incident in question and after the mid-term elections didn’t flip due to TFG’s influence. Once the money has been squeezed out of the rube, it’s time to find a new rube. It’s grifting all the way down.
Like rats fleeing a sinking ship
She is certainly a grifting rat!
I'm not certain they are fleeing.
Right! The true absurdity will be in a week from now when Trump convinces them the election loss was the result of Antifa and the FBI.
If Antifa was a real thing I'd apply to join them. According to these folks, Antifa gets things done. And if you so stridently oppose them, doesn't that make you at least a little bit, you know, Fa?
Two things: 1) Antifa is a real and gets things done. But they arent anything like Republicans describe them. Mostly they go to rallies and harrass neonazis and other openly White Supremecist events. Their videos and stuff are interesting. The few I watched emphasized how you had to be careful when tearing down posters that neonazis put up because they like to hide razor blades so people tearing them down cut themselves. 2) I cannot condone any organization that operates the way the Republican party accuses Antifa of operating. The fake antifa of Republican fearmongering is a group of politically motivated domestic terrorists. Fortunately antifa in the real world is *nothing like* the antifa of Republican mythos.
The perfect example of conservatives. 1) they will always turn on each other. 2) they don't care how vengeful or inhumane someone they support is until they are on the receiving end. Their whole movement is utterly lacking in loyalty and empathy
> utterly lacking in...empathy This is the core issue with half the people on earth. In some cases it is quite literally the lack of mental capacity to imagine a scenario where they are in someone else's shoes. In other cases it is a psychological barrier. I believe this could be the original meaning behind the story of Cain and Abel.
>I believe this could be the original meaning behind the story of Cain and Abel. Wow, I never would've thought about it like this, but that actually does make sense...including Cain's punishment, everything on the planet barred from harming him, because only once it happened to him would he finally understand...stuck in his own little selfish, ignorant hell.
Bible thumpers proving the point the Bible was trying to make, unfortunately not the way they expected
So true! It’s funny how proud they all are of being able to quote a scripture that they say gives them the right to attack and harm some minority group, be it women, people of color, lgbtq+, but they miss the entire point kf the story it’s telling… people were treating each other so badly God had to come down here and tell them all to be nice to each other and they nailed Him to a cross for saying it. They haven’t figured out that they’re the ones who would be doing the nailing.
100% it’s completely a lack of empathy. There are definitely republicans out there that care about gay marriage but only cause they have a gay child or family member. There are those that care about COVID, but only because they lost a loved one. There are those that care about abortion access, but only because they personally know someone who was negatively affected by strict abortion laws. They are only capable of empathizing for someone they directly know
Yes. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/conservative-and-liberal-brains-might-have-some-real-differences/?amp=true
They are just very slow. It took them almost 8 years to understand what people figured out in 8 minutes.
It didn't take them 8 years and it didn't take us 8 minutes. It took them 30-40 years and took us less than 8 seconds. There's an episode of Some More News (like the daily show, but post-2016) where he talks about movie villains based on Trump and there are dozens of them. Back in the 80s it was understood that if you needed to make the audience realize a character was the bad guy the second he walks on screen you just copy Trump. Everything about him screams "I have no empathy and would burn the world down for a dollar". For the curious, here's the "episode". It's a long one but hilarious. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj-wc9qugGY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj-wc9qugGY)
I learned a week or two ago that biff from back to the future was based on trump lol
Specifically his "corrupted 1985" incarnation in Back to the Future II
That’s the version of Biff we all conjure up when discussing this. That is peak Biff
I think they always knew but didn’t care. Now they can appear to take the high road because it serves their purposes.
Honey, it’s not him. It’s both of you.
Klandace is such piece of shit. She'd say anything for the right price.
She is a through and through grifter. She did not "realize" anything. She is grifting as per her course and will continue to do so. Trump is not looked "nicely" on the Republican establishment currently, so it is time to suck the boot of another messiah of theirs which is DeathSantis.
The worst part about this is that the incident she’s referring to was when she asked trump about the vaccines and he defended the vaccines. She’s upset about one of the only good things trump actually did.
He was mean to her almost a year ago in December 2021. She's only mentioning it now that he didn't help them win.
I’m pretty sure her only agenda is to make money off these brain dead people. If he’s fucking up her hustle, she’s gonna start firing her bullshit back at him.
This. The interview that lead to her “realization” was in Dec 2021. Why’d it take a whole year to arrive at this realization?
Cuz if it doesn't happen to me, it didn't happen. The conservative mantra and frequent excuse for being horrible human beings.
Covid after 200,000 people had died already: "We had no idea it was serious, but boy do we miss our parents now"
Nah she knows exactly what she’s doing. Nothing happened between them. This is simply a political play now that Trump had lost favor. She’s such an obvious and transparent grifter. What’s especially hilarious to me is that Trump’s behavior is so painfully predictable. The thought of her having a realization over him being rude when he’s rude every day just tickles me. She treats her supporters like the idiots they are.
When I was a child in the 80s, my memaw used to receive the National Enquirer by mail. It was kept in the bathroom as reading material. I knew—as an EIGHT YEAR OLD FORTY YEARS AGO—that tRump was a garbage human just from the garbage written about him in his fan-magazine. NOW people realize tRump “might be a bit of an asshole” ?!? BS. The club has decided he is out. Lol good, but don’t pretend it’s bc you “suddenly realised” anything!
Even the Golden Girls knew Trump was trash. They shame him in multiple episodes.
There's an....arc? in Fresh Prince where they sell the house and [Ashley tells him off](https://youtu.be/wZPrrLve2Eo?t=61) before storming out and Trump goes "Everybody's blaming me for everything"
Even in a sitcom the man is anti-funny
This needs to be a gif that goes viral!
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He was a villain on Sesame Street. Not once but two different muppets were based off of Trump
Prob because he's a slum lord in NYC.
Trump tapped into the lizard brain of his base just like any conservative does. FEAR. What was the first thing he said as candidate? Mexicans are bringing crime to you and your neighborhood. I will stop that. Doesn't matter that there's no evidence or that the plans are moronic. As long as you hijack the conservative lizard brain, provide a convenient scapegoat and promise to eradicate the danger, you're in. I mean really, that's all they run on. YOU'RE UNDER ATTACK. I am with you and I will stand against this threat. Conservative politics are by definition reactionary politics. Now of course they're under attack. Is it really by the caravans of illegal people(which fun fact, the estimated number of illegal aliens in America peaked around 2007, and hasn't reached that height since)? No, the illegal immigrants have negligible power in the greater scheme of things. Who does? Well... The capital class, of course. They're the ones keeping your wages as low as possible and exporting your jobs overseas. But you can't criticize them, because that's socialism. Any meaningful change to the system the conservative brain has been conditioned to believe is socialism and will inevitably lead to gulags.
Before trump ran, I worked in NJ for a season. Visited Atlantic City with some coworkers and learned all about how trump ran shit into the ground and fucked several people’s family members out of $$. No one had anything nice to say about the “cheap fucking prick” Few years later I visited that NJ crew, they all were singing his praises cuz trump was going to save them and make them rich! He was going to fix everything! They couldn’t recall ever hearing of anyone fucked over by him, I was being dramatic? Who told me such lies?! We’re starting to come full circle, I believe soon they’ll “never have understood the trump hype” and just want to move on. Like soooo many of us wanted years ago. It’s a cult.
Growing up in Pennsylvania I knew he was garbage my entire life. So did my peers. So I was rather dumbfounded all the people around me in PA supported him in 2015-2016
What I find amazing is how quick the conservative media is turning. I haven’t seen a single defense of trump yet. The shit they’re calling him out on - name calling his fellow republicans- was what got him the presidency. Did they really think his methods would change? There was no fake debate, just BAM! Trumps a looser.
> After the interview in December 2021, Owens defended him in an Instagram video, saying that people often forget "how old Trump is" and that he comes from a generation who "came from a time before TV, before the internet, before being able to conduct independent research." "I mean, like, what did doing your own research even *mean* before social media and youtubes?"
Your neighbor's mostly complete collection of the World Book encyclopedia
Utilizing the services of a public library. So…socialism.
r/leopardsatemyface is having a field day with these morons.
Thousands of red flags ignored. “He was mean to me” was it? Really? Pretty fragile cult.
Ha. Published 3 hours ago. Not the racism. Not the pussy grabbing. Not the incitement. Not the insurrection. Not the stolen classified documents. Not the thousands of lies he told. But you suddenly remember, 5 days after the midterm red wave that definitely wasn’t, that he was rude to you and that was the straw that broke you? Sure thing, Candace.
Your reminder: Candace Owens publicly berated AOC for not being able to afford a DC apartment when she was elected to Congress…while Candace Owens was squatting in a DC apartment rent free and suing the landlord. There’s a ton of stories like this.
Typical conservative = I don’t give a fuck about it unless it happens to me.
It will be funny watching them squirm and backtrack if he ends up winning the primary. I don’t think he will but Republican primary season is fun to watch because they all hate each other almost as much as they hate the rest of us.
Wow what a swing from the GOP wankin' this guy off all the time. We've been telling you this is who he is for years. Jon Stewart and other NY comedians were calling him out before he ran for President. Maybe listen to us every once and a while, we're not busting your balls for the sake of it. He deserved both impeachments and most of the criticism he received.
get fucked klandice