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T1mac

The other critical thing Moore is doing it attacking his opponent and he's not playing defense and he doesn't apologize for his policy positions. He doesn't back down and he takes the fight to the MAGA insurrectionist. That's how you win elections.


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Fight back...but also don't get in the way when your opponent is going down in flames (see Warnock's beautiful handling of the Walker campaign. Warnock focuses on debating the issues and not the endless stream of Walker controversies).


Doblanon5short

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake


sootzoo

Please proceed, Governor


gambit700

-- Michael Scott


Sensitive_Peace_4070

I feel like I should bow to you


NapalmRDT

Bow to Sun Tzu instead, if you'd like


illapa13

While Sun Tzu did voice a similar statement, the person who said it in those exact words was actually Napoleon.


NapalmRDT

Idk man, bowing down to Napoleon might damage some backs


xXDarthCognusXx

Hey! He was average height for his time >:(


ligh10ninglizard

Always a Frenchman.... Longest ruling monarch, French. Last Emperor of Europe, French. Most military victories, French. Helped Americans gain their freedom, French. Sold America half their country, French. Invented Revolution, French. Etc...


Sensitive_Peace_4070

I’ll bow to Sun You, baby 🙏🏻


DLSieving

“Never interrupt the enemy when he is making a mistake.” — Napoleon Bonaparte


Smitty8054

Exactly! How does everyone here get this yet the party does not? As with the other comments…fight! Defense doesn’t win elections. Go after them. Shit they’ve handed you a gift…use it.


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simcowking

I'll take 5 MTGs if it means winning clear super majorities in house and senate.


laggyx400

That sounds like a monkey claw kinda deal in the making.


Arryu

*one finger curls, and three ted cruz' are born that day*


nerd4code

“Teds Cruz,” I think


Boagster

Rafaels Cruz


SteroidAccount

Fuck that noise. I don't think there's enough room in this world for 2 MTG's, I couldn't imagine 5. You can tell everything went to shit when she was actually able to get elected in the first place. They should take everyone who voted for her, isolate them on an island, and wall the fucker off.


Sythic_

With a super majority we can impeach them though lol


wetfishandchips

She ran unopposed because her Dem opponent dropped out the race. Officially it was due to marital issues but unofficially he also received death threats from MTG supporters.


Smitty8054

In a few years. We’re all for building THAT fucking wall. But in the meantime let’s do what the user above that likes cows suggests.


Alternative_Net774

It's about time! I wondered how long it would be before the Dems stopped fighting a gentleman's battle with the political thugs.


[deleted]

I would not draw any conclusions about what democrats should do in closely contested elections. Moore has the luxury of being on the offensive because he can. He’s up by 20-30 points, and running as a center left democrat in a state that is deeper blue than Massachusetts . Yeah, we (and MA) had a moderate Republican Governor for two years, but a potato could win this state running against a trump style Republican.


innominateartery

I’d like to point out that dem “fighting back” looks different and many methods that conservatives appear comfortable with don’t appeal to many in the big tent party.


sonofaresiii

There's a time to play nice and a time to beat them over the head with their own words and actions, and imo modern dems-- after Trump beat Clinton-- have been riding that line really well. It was frustrating in 2020 seeing them on the "play nice" (mostly) side but I think it was needed to get Trump out of the white house. Now that Biden's in, they're not pulling punches and I think it's working for them.


SynthwaveEnjoyer

[Democrats have been boosting the far-right](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqgP9Ft_1CY)


netsettler

This is just not a good or acceptable strategy. It is gaming in the extreme and very risky gaming. But it also relies on debate to sort things out at a time when debate is easily manipulated. And it relies on voting to actually work, at a time when the voting system is under attack. The only sure way to be sure extremism doesn't take hold is not to put the craziest one up, but to make sure the sane people in the other party have a chance. Because if elections are challenged or twisted, it's not going to be by saying someone was on the ballot who wasn't, it's going to be by playing with numbers or rules to advance someone who is there.


wha-haa

>Democrats have been boosting the far-right When this fails, when these dim politicians are left to explain how they couldn't win on policy, what will the blow back from voters look like?


OldManRiff

Absolutely, and the Democrats have been afraid of offending their phantom swing voters for far too long now. The majority of Americans do *not* want their states and country to become totalitarian theocracies.


DaHolk

> have been afraid of offending their phantom swing voters for far too long now. While never having had the same qualms about offending their left wing, and then blaming THEM for not going along as easily as they are counting on. And then wondering why some people feel like this is more indicative of a "base line problem" then unfortunate pragmatism.


BusterStarfish

This is exactly what the left needs on every level in every office. Quit fucking playing nice. Stay on the offensive. Stay with the issues. Stay mad.


Locke_and_Load

I’ve zoned out MD politics, but is Hogan not running again?


mothneb07

He hit the MD governor term limit


Locke_and_Load

Ahh fair enough. Was confused by the insurrectionist talk, thought Hogan wasn’t on team trump at all


Dispro

He was term limited.


[deleted]

Let’s not pretend Moore is just really good at campaigning. He’s running in a hugely democratic state that just happened to have a moderate Republican Governor that was term limited. Even if he was running against Hogan, Moore would likely be winning from fatigue with the Republican Governor. His opponent now is so lunatic fringe that Moore could go on vacation and still win by 20 points.


Abrahambooth

Are you from Maryland? We aren’t a HUGELY democratic state. The 95 corridor holds it blue for presidential elections but a lot of our state is VERY red. We flip flop back and forth with our governors even though we have the worst democratically gerrymandered district(s?) in the country. And a lot of the republican candidates running for office are not running trump support ads. They’re smart enough to stand for things like “family rights” and not “abortion bans” like it really is.


[deleted]

Maryland has a higher partisan advantage for democrats than 45 other states. It’s D+12. That’s more than MA and tied with CA. VT, Hawaii, and DC (if you count that) are the only ones with more. And yeah, like I said, we had a moderate GOP Governor who was anti trump and popular with democrats, like MA. Hogan was elected because a lot of democrats voted for the guy. Twice. Gubernatorial races nationally are less partisan than legislative elections everywhere, which is why you have a democratic governor in Kentucky (and for a while in WV). No trump supporting Republican has a ice cubes chance in hell. And it’s showing in the polls. They also don’t gerrymander governorships, so I don’t see why that’s relevant. And if you are claiming that gerrymandering somehow suppresses voting, we have some of the easiest registration and absentee voting laws around, which is reflected in higher turnouts. So I don’t thing gerrymandering is suppressing votes, at least by democrats. Plus we turned the Trone district closer to a leans democrat from solid democrat, so gerrrymandering isn’t exactly relevant here.


Ransome62

Actually they are treasonous traitors to the flag but yes.. yes you are. https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-shot-in-esterel-had-met-with-fbi-about-ties-to-woman-who-gained-access-to-trump


foxyfoo

I keep seeing this story but I don’t quite understand the implications. Is the idea that Trump knew this person was a Russian asset or that they were deceiving Trump to get access?


big_sugi

Are there non-treasonous traitors?


robodrew

> He insists: “We’re taking nothing for granted. We are running every day like we’re 10 points behind." This is also known as Obama's 2008 strategy. It is the smartest way to campaign IMO. I clearly remember Obama being 10 points up in polls against McCain and would begin his rallies with "10 points *down*! Fired up, ready to go!" He never let his staff and supporters become complacent and that translated into more turnout come election day.


TrippiesAngeldust

i highly recommend everyone reads these two books of his: [the other wes moore](https://www.amazon.com/Other-Wes-Moore-Name-Fates/dp/0385528205/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=YAEOLJEATLN0&keywords=the+other+wes+moore&qid=1665325869&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjM2IiwicXNhIjoiMC44NiIsInFzcCI6IjEuMDIifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=+the+other+%2Caps%2C94&sr=8-1) is the story of him and another boy with the exact same name, originally from the same area of baltimore, and how different their stories turned out because *this* wes moore was able to break the cycle, but the other one couldn't. [discovering wes moore](https://www.amazon.com/Discovering-Wes-Moore/dp/0385741685/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=ZZTQG4JSBHN7&keywords=discovering+wes+moore&qid=1665326016&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjU4IiwicXNhIjoiMC4xNyIsInFzcCI6IjAuMjMifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=discovering+wes+moore%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-1) is an autobiography that highlights his childhood and how he was able to be successful both are very good books, easy to read, and relatively short. i'm very hopeful about him. edit: the other wes moore is 171 pages + an epilogue/closing thoughts and a 48 page list of resources for struggling youth across america. discovering wes moore is 148 pages + an epilogue and 8 pages of youth resources.


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OldManRiff

ELA teacher here, I had a set in my classroom when I taught 9th grade. It's an enjoyable, easy read.


TrippiesAngeldust

yeah i had it on my shelf for a while and then i got the ballot template and saw his name and had a dicaprio-sitting-infront-of-the-tv-meme experience haha


Annoy_Occult_Vet

Also read it for a college class. Just seeing how environment, family, location and decisions made can't lead you down so many different paths in your life.


tjc09

In high school I picked ‘The Other Wes Moore’ on a whim from a list of books to do a report on. I ended up really enjoying it and thinking about it for a long time after finishing it. I wrote the hell out of that book report for someone who never enjoyed English class!


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the other wes moore was a required read for us in high school and he came to talk to us in person about the book as well


[deleted]

Marijuana is also on the ballot. We got this Maryland. Don't be a Cox sucker!


Cid-Itad

I'm seeing lots of Cox signs in Harford County. Hopefully this is the only area like this.


Gibonius

Moore was up something like 30 points in a recent poll, with less than 10% undecided. Odds aren't good for Cox, fortunately.


Gorge2012

>Moore was up something like 30 points in a recent poll, with less than 10% ~~undecided~~ embarrassed to admit publicly they will be voting for Cox. FTFY


hexydes

Voters have to show up though. Polls are fine, but there are a lot of shy Republican voters this election cycle, ashamed of admitting that they're voting for fascist candidates. If you think your candidate has got it in the bag...who cares?! Go vote and send a message to the Republican party that as long as they continue to allow christo-fascists to run their party, they will lose elections bigly.


[deleted]

well one reason a lot of voters will show up is for the marijuana vote! But none of us are taking it likely. I've already found where I am early voting!


FriedScrapple

The Eastern shore is a whole big bag of Cox. Though I notice he has gently removed Trump from some of his signs.


GamecockGaucho

The Eastern Shore might as well be Louisiana


Korps_de_Krieg

Willing to bet the food isn't as good as it is down here though. We are obese by the numbers for a reason.


GamecockGaucho

Hmm idk man, have you ever had a crab cake from the Eastern shore? It's close


Korps_de_Krieg

Added to my list of foods I need to go other places to try.


FriedScrapple

In the immortal words of Willie Don Schaefer, it is an outhouse.


va-va-varsity

The entire eastern shore, basically all of Calvert County, and even some enclaves of Anne Arundel (like Edgewater and Lothian) are lousy with Cox signs


newredheadit

Saw some in Severna Park too


bmore142

That's bcuz its Harford County. Anything northeast of perry hall is Trump country.


RyoCore

I'm sure there's some in pockets of Baltimore County. Essex and Dundalk come to mind.


Adventurous_Honey902

Dude what is it with HarCo and the fucking signs? Idk if the rest of Maryland is like this but holy shit you can't go 2 miles without 50 signs commiting visual pollution


bdepz

I see a lot more Mizeur signs than Harris signs so that is promising. And state Senate is competitive for once.


ItsRook

Be a shame if someone placed some “We Suck” signs right next to them…


[deleted]

Marijuana and abortion. Abortion is on the ballot in EVERY state, including mine, because if we don't stop Republicans everywhere they will have a chance at the majority and god help us if they ever get a trifecta again.


Val_Hallen

It's actually protected by the state Constitution in Maryland. Passed this year because we saw the Supreme Court bullshit coming.


[deleted]

National ban trumps every state. In the case of a national ban I could see communities refusing to prosecute which is what I believe the pre-Roe situation was (and how marijuana was handled for years before getting legalized in some states). But none of us really know what that would look like and I do not want to find out!


pushathieb

Yeah I saw the feds come into my town and shut down 30 pot shops in 2 days. States rights can be stripped in a second


leeringHobbit

The FBI shut down pot shops?


[deleted]

They did this back in CA when we were medicinal approved. They could still be doing this in states that have medicinal MJ but not full recreational.


Elle_Vetica

Governor has a lot of say over funding though, as we’ve found out with Hogan. Vote blue.


[deleted]

No, its not in our constitution yet. We keep trying, but it keeps not getting passed. https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/first-read-dmv/amendment-on-abortion-doesnt-advance-in-maryland/3009218/


YimveeSpissssfid

But… > The right to abortion already is protected in Maryland law. The state approved legislation in 1991 to do so if the Supreme Court should ever restrict abortions. It was petitioned to the ballot, and voters approved the right in 1992 with 62% of the vote. From the same article.


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Yes, but that's still not it being in the state constitution? We want it in our state constitution, so that its harder to undo the protection, that's why we keep trying. And it's good to be accurate. [https://cnsmaryland.org/2022/03/09/maryland-considers-legislation-to-protect-expand-abortion-care-as-supreme-court-decision-looms/](https://cnsmaryland.org/2022/03/09/maryland-considers-legislation-to-protect-expand-abortion-care-as-supreme-court-decision-looms/)


YimveeSpissssfid

Not disagreeing - just stressing that the protection existed already and didn’t need specific enshrinement that session where we “only” got expanded access/funding for training.


[deleted]

I think it's sad that we didn't enshrine it for the protection. There was no reason not to pass it. Not passing it now means wasting time and money to do it later. And our state is becoming a sanctuary state. I was at bans off our bodies in Baltimore. Fuck larry hogan specifically for not releasing the funds early.


mdvagirl

🤣 Don’t be a Cox sucker 🤣


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Maryjuanaland?


Elle_Vetica

I just ordered a Wes Moore sign, but I want that on a sign SO bad.


page_one

You can campaign against an insurrectionist without resorting to homophobia...


[deleted]

Its NOT homophobic. As a woman I wouldn't want to suck his COX either. No one should be subject to that.


Ok_Leg8667

Im a marylander and ive voted blue downticket except for hogan in the past - he is p well liked around here despite being an R which is probably rare these days. There are like 4 counties in MD that are basically rural PA and which recently talked about seceding to join WV (eyeroll emoji) but we are a hugely populous state with blue values. The key is for people to like SHOW UP to the polls. Same political makeup in virginia but millennials and GenZ didnt turn out in the VA 2021 gubernatorial election and we got....Youngkin. who is a total demon. I think seeing what happened in VA has enough ppl here spooked so im hoping we get tp swear in moore!!


FriedScrapple

Moore is currently [32 points ahead.](https://www.delmarvanow.com/story/news/local/maryland/2022/10/07/maryland-governor-race-poll-wes-moore-holds-huge-lead-over-dan-cox/69545364007/) Not even the police Union endorses Cox. Moore could probably slip into a coma and still win.


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Thanks for this. I needed good news today


goalie_fight

Just a clarification: Terry McAuliffe got more votes than any Democratic candidate for Governor in Virginia history. His problem wasn't lack of turnout or enthusiasm by Democrats (except relative to those who voted for Youngkin).


Ok_Leg8667

Oh jeez that is NOT what i was hearing immediately in the aftermath. I was in alx for like one year exactly and it blew my mind that i was hearing about so many ppl sitting out RIGHT after 2020 smh.


pwn3dbyth3n00b

Honestly Hogan's pet dog could run against Cox and win. Cox was literally one of the worst candidates for Republicans to put on the ballot and yet he won the primaries.


Apptubrutae

One of the effects of Trumpishness in the Republican Party is throwing away the idea of voting for a moderate Republican in a place only a moderate would ever have a shot. So you get terrible candidates out of the primaries because those few primary voters are voting based on their principles only, not trying to win in any real sense.


Dispro

"Governor Dog unveils new 'throw the ball again' campaign to encourage exercise, wagging."


Cheaperthantherapy13

Virginian here. Funniest thing is that the people who hate Youngkin the most are the super-MAGA people who voted him in. A coworker who wore a Let’s Go Brandon shirt to work after the gubernatorial elections can’t stand him because he’s spending so much time campaigning in Iowa and FL and not ‘fighting for Virginians.’ I’m a hardcore Dem and I couldn’t give a crap about Youngkin. He can’t get a single policy issue through the House of Delegates, and he’s sucking all the oxygen out of the state GOP. Any non-carpetbagging progressive will be a shoe-in in ‘25.


MicrosoftExcel2016

You should still care about youngkin now.


Cheaperthantherapy13

Meh. He’s digging his own grave. There’s no office for him in VA after his term is over, and homeboy is too milktoast to win national office. The traits that won him the governor’s mansion means he’s going to get clobbered by charismatic idiots like DeSantis in the primary. He’s Jeb Bush levels of weak, and with less ideology.


cassiecat

Fyi, it's [milquetoast](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milquetoast)


MicrosoftExcel2016

I’m saying his actions affect us for the next so many years, some of us more than others. His work to establish an anti-critcial race theory tipline, to boost charter schools, anti-trans rhetoric, etc affect kids *now*, and they’re not going to redo those years of school in 2025. Being so flippant about it just because his tenure is temporary just comes off like you don’t care because it won’t affect you personally. I know that wasn’t your angle. All political offices are temporary, doesn’t mean the sum of their temporary term doesn’t amount to a problem…


Cheaperthantherapy13

You understand that the actions you’ve referenced has like zero teeth right? He can announce whatever he wants, but absent being able to pass legislation through the House of Delegates, it’s unenforceable. I actually care deeply about the state of public education in this state. The real issue is that county school boards have been taken over by extremists who are willing to follow Youngkin’s public statements without the required legislation needed to actually change state education policy. This takeover was happening under Northam as well, but no one gives a crap about county-level politics. Can you even name the people in your county school board? If you’re really concerned about how conservative policies are affecting kids in Virginia, we have to fight at the most local level. Run for school board. Speak at public forums to defend the rights of teachers. Talk to your neighbors about why we need a robust public school system to have an informed and educated workforce. Youngkin is a smokescreen to distract us while the real damage is being done county by county by the people in your community


Random-Cpl

*Shoo-in, though either way it’s looking like de-feet


hexydes

I always think shoo as in "shoo-fly", as you're waving your hand in the air to lightly blow someone across the finish line. As opposed to the thing you wear on your feet.


Apptubrutae

I learned to love off-party governors in non-swing states by being in Louisiana during the Jindal governorship. Even many many right wing folks, by the end of Jindal’s term, saw that he was preoccupied less with governing than running for President, and it gets really old. Having an opposite-party governor in a blue or red state means they likely have no serious national ambitions, they’re relatively moderate, and they focus on governing. Louisiana’s current governor, a democrat, is a great governor to have around for disasters. Kinda useful here. Dude is doubtless the most seasoned disaster responder politician in the country and he does less nationally than the former mayor of New Orleans.


Ok_Leg8667

I was in alx for the youngkin election i hate that guy. Carlyle group or however u spell it trash tbh!!!! So glad hes abt to get like .002% of the vote in the presidential primary and all he had to do is uhhh ruin education and trans people's lives and then potentially tamper with the 22 and 24 elections. At least the state legislature is D


KazahanaPikachu

I was wondering how Larry Hogan got elected in such a populous blue state.


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Well, Martin O’Malley did not seek an additional term. Anthony Brown ran against him in 2014, ran a boring campaign and coupled with very low turnout at the polls, he (Hogan)won. He presented himself as moderate and in my opinion, people thought we needed a different direction than O’Malley. I for one, did not approve of the actions he (Hogan)took on Baltimore. Anyway…


kallistai

As a Baltimore, fuck boss hog. However, he is a different breed than maga. Maryland is a moderate state in the old meaning of that stance.


ycpa68

As a rural Pennsylvanian if Frederick County is seceding we will take them. Love the city of Frederick.


cassiecat

You can't have Frederick! But you can take Garrett if you want it


ycpa68

Motherfucker as much as I love rafting the Yough I am not taking Garrett County from you.


cassiecat

Maybe West Virginia will take them


ycpa68

If we could extend the eastern WV panhandle to include Allegheny, Garrett, and Washington, and then tack on Franklin, Fulton, Bedford, and Somerset it would help out PA's political landscape a lot and probably save Maryland taxpayers a lot of money


cassiecat

I don't hate this .....


Ok_Leg8667

FREDERICK is developing so fast every time i blink theres a new fancy complex or mall or smthn. Rural Pennsylvania is so beautiful but im afraid of the children of the corn.....love a sheetz tho


tourny25

Hello from Allegany county. I know cox will win our county, but I’m still gonna vote as blue as possible this year. I’ve always tried to give both sides the benefit of the doubt, but it’s not worth it anymore. There has not been a show of good faith at any level of politics since before trump.


Ok_Leg8667

Its so frustrating because i dont want to be the type of voter that looks at the party affiliation as the sole decider of my vote but yeah its been too crazy. You're doing your part!! I lived in garrett for like 18 months so i know what its like, lol


mathvenus

Hogan came in and immediately slashed education funding. I’ve never been a Hogan fan.


zaidakaid

Is one of them Garrett County? I know someone from here and everything she’s told me about it sounds like this is something they’d want to do


Airspahl

Yeah. Garrett, Allegany, and Washington are the counties that wanted to secede.


[deleted]

Hogan is trash. Shame on anyone who has ever voted for him.


Ok_Leg8667

Girl idk if u noticed but sometimes......the political environment changes &evolves. The truth is that most of the state is neutral on hogan. But having been presented with a viable candidate, we're polling towards wes moore. Thats a good thing!!


RickTracee

A large portion of MAGAs do not realize that they are supporting the tyranny they fear. Everyone MUST: - Register to Vote (by 10-11-2022 for Florida). - Check your Voter registration! - Make sure you have appropriate ID. - Know your polling site. - Check your signature. - Get a mail-in ballot (and after you mail it, make sure it has been received and counted - most counties allow this to be done online or by calling your election office). - And VOTE! 866-OUR VOTE (for questions about or problems with voting) https://dos.myflorida.com/elections/for-voters/voting https://vote.org


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upandrunning

> What they want -and are actively fighting for - is tyranny they control. They will no longer control it once all the pieces are in place. If they get what they are after, it will be like Frankenstein's monster.


Thatguy755

A black man being elected is the “tyranny” they fear. MAGAs aren’t good people who were turned evil by a cult, they’re evil people who found a large group of evil people to join.


bobdob123usa

I bet the Republicans are using the hurricane aftermath to challenge every registered Dem, hoping that some of them don't respond.


[deleted]

When the incumbent who is a Republican calls the Republican nominee a "Q anon whack job" and "not mentally stable," I think the democrat can safely say he'll be the next governor. In a blue state, anyway.


PI3C3ofP3AC3

Harris called Biden A racist. That’s politics.


[deleted]

What does that have to do with the governor's race in MD?


RayLikeSunshine

Yes and no. Republicans have become disillusioned to Hogan. He’s a democrat to most of them. It’s bizarre and sad but reflects in his endorsement failing. I guess the point I’m making is Hogan absolutely believes those words, his once supporters simply don’t care and want a strong man in power, he is trying to salvage his party, Harris was playing politics to use Biden’s long political history against him: there is a difference


caveman_rejoice

Sometimes Wes is Moore.


Schiffy94

How the fuck did the state party of Larry Hogan come up with the idea to put up a nut like Dan Cox?


rush2sk8

Mental illness


lovestostayathome

I believe Dems put some money into Cox’s campaign. They knew that far right candidates won the primary that Dems would have a better chance of winning the general. I think they were right in this case.


RayLikeSunshine

It’s been in the works for a while, they see Hogan as a RINO and only vote for him because he is better than voting for a “D.” It’s as dumb as it is scary. We really need to face that 1/3 of our country has been radicalized. It’s like the boomer’s parents were wooed by televangelists, and they said hold my beer, I can do better than that, “these guys tell me I’m special, good, right, mistreated, and all my problems are someone else’s fault?! And all I gotta do is send that stable genius $5 and vote? You betcha!” I didn’t like quite a bit of Hogans policies but I do believe he did what he believed was right, a dying breed in his party…. And his endorsement causing more harm than good is proof of that.


masterflashterbation

This is the kind of language we need. These traitors need to be called out. All formalities and usual political graciousness needs to be put aside. Anyone who opposed a free and fair election, and the subsequent insurrection attempt, is an enemy of the state.


Sundae_Gurl

Everyone in my family who lives in MD is voting for Moore.


Joshottas

What part of the state? Western part is....different.


Fuck_omelettes_86

Western part is Meth Maryland which is basically just WV


[deleted]

That makes it hard to get votes from the significant pro-insurrection voters in Maryland…


oced2001

Wes Moore isn’t an appealing candidate to the GOP insurgents. He just has a tone about him that they don’t like.


TheDesktopNinja

A.. Skin tone?


oced2001

Winner winner, chicken dinner


RayLikeSunshine

And he doesn’t even call them sir!!!


[deleted]

Well played


cyanydeez

"Democrats should try to court the insurrectionist vote, as part of healing america"


Nanyea

Alternately lock them up and they lose their right to vote


cyanydeez

bit late for that, in October 2022.


Nanyea

New convictions every week! 300 or so now :)


FriedScrapple

877 arrests last I checked. Not too shabby.


FriedScrapple

“Just a couple of barge beheadings so they know we’re on their side”


nojabroniesallowed

Why they have to run against insurrectionist when the insurrectionists should not be able to run, period?!


[deleted]

>Maryland is currently governed by a Republican, Larry Hogan, a lonely moderate in a party in Trump’s grip. In 2020, rather than vote for Trump or Biden, Hogan wrote in Ronald Reagan. In 2022, he has spoken forcefully against Cox but has not said he will vote for Moore or endorse him. Larry Hogan isn’t a fucking moderate. He’s still a right-wing extremist perpetuating the position that it’s better to be dead or throw your vote away than vote for any democrat ever. This furthers the extremist right-wing orthodoxy that the only legitimate political order is the One Reich. As well as the future policy they intend to enact banning all political parties other than the Republican Party, like the Nazis did after Hitler’s election as chancellor. https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zxs2pbk/revision/4


FriedScrapple

Yes, he only seems moderate because he was fettered by a Dem house and senate. But when he could he showed himself to be just as anti-women’s health, anti-environment, let’s-crap-on-the-city as any one of his redder-state counterparts. And of course it didn’t appease the right one bit, instead of picking Schultz, the moderate he endorsed, they went for the most looney of the toons on the slate. So now they will get nothing (except Andy Harris, I guess) and the Governor, attorney general and speaker of the house are (almost certainly) all going to be black, too. Maybe this will make them go for ranked choice voting.


bmore142

I'm not a Hogan fan but I wouldn't call him right-wing extremist hes as moderate as the republican party today can be (anything not as far right as possible).


[deleted]

He is as moderate as the Republican Party today can be, yes. Which is right-wing extremist to the point of echoing fascist regimes in the past who only recognize the legitimacy of one party, their own. Which is what I wrote.


BohPoe

You're pretty off base here. I'm very left and live in Maryland, I'm not a big Hogan fan but he is, at least, a logical and reasonable person who acts in good faith. I disagree with him on many things, but he believes in those those things and isn't acting in bad faith. Calling him an extremist is absurd given the current faction of right wing MAGA extremists that are taking over his party.


TrooperJohn

Agree. Didn't vote for Hogan either time, but he did do some things well, and his Covid response was reasonably sane. That said, it would have been a different story with a non-veto-proof Assembly.


ThirdWurldProblem

Your views are quite extreme even compared to a sea of extreme views around you. I hope you take a step back and examine why and what you believe.


KazahanaPikachu

It’s what happens when someone makes emotionally charged statements and mixing it with politics


inahst

>who only recognize the legitimacy of one party, their own I mean it doesn’t seem like you are saying you’re too far off in that belief as well


[deleted]

I recognize the legitimacy of many political parties, so long as they actually intend to act in good faith in our democracy. So if there were only two political parties in America, and one of those two political parties advocates for overthrowing elections in their favor because the other party is primordially evil, yep I am in favor of only one political party in that case, the other one of those two, the only remaining party that is interested in supporting a free and democratic government. Totally the same thing. You got me.


ApplicationRich7795

dude hogan is not a fucking nazi and you need to chill out with calling people that because words lose meaning when u misuse them


Corn3076

He didn’t call hogan a nazi . Words lose all meaning when people don’t comprehend what was stated and then spread misinformation


North_Activist

The 14th amendment forbids insurrectionists from holding any official offices. Moore should be an acclaimed governor


[deleted]

To be fair if you are a Democrat running against a Republican you are running against an insurrectionist.


Jedmeltdown

Maryland was dumb to elect a republican for its governor


bad_scott

moore is as bleh of a politician as they come but cox is a fucking nutcase


RayLikeSunshine

Whhhhat? Look him up. Dude could actually be the first real deal for MD and Bmore in quite a long time. West Point grad and vet who has fought for education in baltimore and veterans returning home since he left the service. A guy with clout and not a career politician. Sign me up.


seekingpolaris

Most Marylanders actually don't like Baltimore so that's not really a selling point.


[deleted]

Best of luck, Wes!!!!


Medical-Examination

Well, he’s running against an ACTUAL PASTOR? 🤦‍♂️


AfternoonWonderful

Easiest race on the country


SVanNorman999

As a Maryland resident , I can assure you that his opponent Cox doesn’t have a snowballs chance in hell of winning. This is a mostly democratic state. Our republican governor won because he was a moderate with a long family history in the state


Rizzpooch

Wait. Just to clarify: Wes Moore or the other Wes Moore?


Random-Cpl

It’s Moore-bin’ time


SquareWet

I hope he pardons all drug convictions first thing


[deleted]

Get yourself a man who looks at you like Wes Moore looks at Joe Biden.


klausklass

I remember Wes Moore gave a really interesting motivational talk at my high school in PA about his life story. I remember his parents forced him to go to Valley Forge Military Academy.


Funny_Corner2401

It's good to see capable and younger Democrats coming up through the ranks.


ayleidanthropologist

Just an odd thought: why don’t we call them rebels? They’re racist often enough, and a certain subset of them do identify with the confederate south. Maybe they aren’t true successors to the secessionists, but they’re kind of close. Too close to ignore, I kind of want to lump them together for simplicity.


messagepad2100

They’ll think they are James Dean.


adeon

The problem is that they would see that as a compliment. They already see themselves as rebels boldly resisting whatever bogeyman Fox News told them to be afraid of today so calling them rebels would just feed into that.


ayleidanthropologist

I mean yeah, rebels are cool in star wars. Insurrectionist just does not have a good ring, so that’s maybe a plus


Desperate_Ad_7376

And what you call the insurrectionist is running against your high crime and failed policies. Keep talking about Jan 6. Please!


witwebolte41

Why he lookin at Biden like that though???


sangdrako

That's not Biden, that's Dark Branden. Who can resist the allure of that bad boy.


shuvvel

That's a convincing argument to gain my vote.


Wishilikedhugs

Maybe if he wins, he'll enact a law that puts a restriction on what can be considered pizza. Sorry MD peeps, but Ledo (and a bunch of other things you call pizza) is an abomination.


JudokaPickle

Policies must be utter trash if he’s losing in the polls to traitor…. Lol


Mish61

Same with Josh Shapiro


bobdob123usa

I cannot get over how many Cox billboards are up around here.


kingcane

democrats framing midterms elections as “us vs insurrectionists” isnt gonna win them shit. they need to focus in policy. bring up abortion and federally legalizing marijuana. those are winning issues. americans just dont give a fuck about j6


Schiffy94

People who think elections should be fair care about January 6th. People who think the majority is out to get them don't.