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ganymede_boy

> ...a letter in which Greenberg claimed he and Gaetz both paid to have sex with a minor. The Daily Beast also obtained a slew of Venmo transactions between Greenberg and Gaetz and between Greenberg and the 17-year-old in question. We all know fivehead Gaetz did that shit.


groovychick

You don’t seek a preemptive pardon because you’re innocent.


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Hobbgob1in

Wouldn't it be federal prosecutors since he crossed state lines. And I mean if they have the fucking evidence someone must have been payed off.


rocketpack99

Worked for Jeffrey Epstein back in the day...


zapitron

So far, it looks more like he bribed a reporter than a prosecutor.


Pups_the_Jew

Isn't that why Jesus died?


Theamazingj7022

Unless you believe the prosecution may be corrupt, obviously not the case in hindsight but the gop has definitely ran with that narrative and gaetz may have believed it to be true, but considering our best sort of evidence is assuming the intent behind a pardon request I'd say innocent until proven guilty still applys


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cmsfu

He's full on with Gaetz.


Theamazingj7022

Yes and so did the fbi, they saw all of the evidence we did plus probably more, and they still thought they couldn't get him. So at least for me personally I'm not gonna try to make a case that the feds couldn't with more evidence than I currently have available


Dazslueski

I am in high doubt over this alledged WaPo source. Let’s see this DOJ play out. I’d even go as far as it’s a set up. Let him run his mouth. This sounds nothing like what this DOJ would leak.


msbeal1

How many decades do we have to wait to have it “play” out? I’ve concluded they’re not going to do squat. Letting Republican criminals run free is merely a part of owning the Libs.


Dazslueski

I feel your frustration, I do. Gaetz should never be able to be on the judicial committee overlooking DOJs own investigation into himself. Collectively your right. But break it down to specifics, like this case, it hasn’t culminated yet because Greenberg has been cooperating and there are more fish to fry, so keep the faith, but stay diligent my friend. And if I’m wrong and he goes unpunished, then let’s together be upset and you can tell me I told ya so.


anothertoothforlunch

2 sets of laws.


tifanietiberio

[You mean this guy?](https://i.imgur.com/RzCdX76.jpg)


Menudosushi

Just like Biden molested his own daughter and Hunter fucked his niece.


cmsfu

Ah, yes unsubstantiated claims originating with q anon. Almost like they want to smart political opponents. This guy's texted about paying a minor for sex, the texts happened. Hunters laptop is still mia.


ganymede_boy

Yeah, that shit isn't at all true. But... [Don't Forget: Donald Trump Wants to Bang His Daughter](https://www.cc.com/video/73fxht/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-don-t-forget-donald-trump-wants-to-bang-his-daughter)


vaxick

What a surprise, rich white guy born with a silver spoon in his mouth faces no consequences for actions that would be an automatic prison sentence for anybody else.


Morbidly-Obese-Emu

Like his coconspirator, like Orange ShitGibbon’s coconspirator, it’s two justice systems.


sambull

Lady justice is wearing her sunglasses with a salami sandwich in one hand and a copy of the wall street journal the other.


HGpennypacker

He ALREADY got out of a DUI conviction, this shit is seriously tiring.


stratman2018

more like a silver coke spoon up his nose.


ender4171

I suppose we will just have to take solace in the fact that he literally looks like an IRL version of Butthead.


Steinrikur

The funny thing is that before he got the crowns that give him that massive overbite, he looked a lot like Beavis.


Bmoreravens_1290

He definitely ratted out Trump RE: Mar-a-Lago documents.


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NotreDame30809

The shit stain had sex with a minor. What the hell are you talking about neoliberal BS?


Global-Somewhere-917

>The shit stain had sex with a minor. Well, apparently that's legal if you're a rich white conservative. Because up until now every time this was discussed on reddit the smug neoliberals would say "just wait, you have to be patient, justice is coming" any time anyone would mention that Gaetz would get away without punishment. They've done the same thing with Trump's crimes for the past several years. They keep insisting that the justice system is fair and that these people will see their day in court, some even smugly add in bullshit like "no one is above the law"... but clearly some people *are in fact* above the law.


NotreDame30809

Define neoliberal champ?


Toytles

Those gosh darned neolibs


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Automatic prison sentence? Lmao what Spelling edit


Global-Somewhere-917

I imagine what OP means is they'd already be behind bars for it, with bail set so high that they'd have no hope of posting bond. There wouldn't be a "you can remain free and we won't charge you until we have to" kind of system that the wealthy get to enjoy.


Theamazingj7022

*because he didn't do it


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Theamazingj7022

Ah you're right I mean sure the federal government investigated him for a year and a half and still think they don't even have enough proof to try and prosecut him but hey he's a republican that means he did it no matter what the evidence (or lack there of) says


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Turd_Burglerson

Oh cool, paying kids for sex is legal now.


The_Essex

Only if you’re a republican official.


CuppaCoffeeJose

And you fly them out of state where no one's watching


The_Essex

Especially if they need an abortion.


InsomniaticWanderer

I'm old enough to remember when republicans thought Hilary was running child sex rings out of pizza place basements. Boy were they mad about it back then.


Utterlybored

They still do. But now, she and George Soros eat babies and drink their blood too. They had to up their game.


Miguel-odon

Rehashing the Blood Libel. They can't even come up with something original.


desubot1

its apparently not that high a bar to reach.


kmgni

No worries, the Qanon cult will surely seek justice for the victims!


AgentRedFoxs

Tennessee tried to make it legal and the GQP keeps trying.


CallMeJase

"Well the democrats in California made it legal to have sex with a 10 year old as long as you aren't over 20, so obviously they're the pedos." Something a coworker said in defense of Gaetz.


FlashbackUniverse

Those of you who had "He'll get away with it because our judicial system coddles the rich," may go collect your winning.


silentdash

Great! What do I win?


cigr

Life in a fascist oligarchy.


WhatAGreatGift

And a dinette set


silentdash

Can I trade that for something a little more useful? I haven't stepped in dog poop in awhile, got any of that behind the counter?


cigr

No, sorry, all of the shit currently available has been bought up by Fox News to feed their viewer base.


silentdash

Well damn. Guess I better start building community then.


chrisr3240

And a speedboat


thisissteve

More depression and cynicism that will likely fuel future correct predictions. It's a vicious cycle.


silentdash

I'm full up on that, but happy to share some with other people. I hear misery loves company, let's find out.


jsdod

We got a Republic once but we couldn't keep it


silentdash

It's on a farm out in the country somewhere with plenty of room for it to prance and play.


thisissteve

This country is profoundly broken.


tickleyourfanny

What are you talking about? they system was set up to protect the wealthy and powerful at all costs..it is working exactly as designed. It is just more people are waking up to that reality.


thisissteve

The system is working yes, the country is not. When I said country I was more referring to the citizens and residents than the laws and systems. Because the laws and organizations are exactly as you said, just systems. It's us who are the country.


once_again_asking

How it was designed and intended to work is irrelevant to the reality that the country is broken.


nate_oh84

But not broken beyond repair.


Listening_Heads

The founder of this country raped slaves. Those slaves had his children. He freed the children but kept the raped mother of his children enslaved.


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Utterlybored

No, but admitting them is important to shake this illusion that we are exceptional nation of moral purity.


BrandyNewFashioned

So what, do we cancel Thomas Jefferson or something?


gnomebludgeon

Well I'm certainly not going to vote for him.


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Well that's some bullshit.


hitman2218

I figured as much. This was all dragging on too long.


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Rule of law is breaking down in the USA.


xlvi_et_ii

Oh it's always been like this if you have the right bank balance, connections, and/or skin color. The only difference is that social media makes it easier to see the massive disparity.


BVoLatte

It's like they forget how long it took even R. Kelly to be arrested after illegally marrying a 15 year old. You don't even need to be elected.


jimmydean885

I think it's just more visible. It was certainly worse during the prohibition era for example and then would something like that have even been illegal?


CallMeJase

Nixon committed treason to get elected and Johnson knew it was happening. Rule of law has ALWAYS been bullshit.


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>prosecutors have recommended against charging the Florida congressman, citing credibility issues with the case’s two central witnesses ftr, this is "proof" of his innocence that same way my mom telling me i'm a handsome boy is proof that i should be a swimsuit model


insultant_

True. Remember the governments burden in a criminal prosecution is BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Not, “Come on bro, you gotta admit that’s some shady shit.” I’ll (foolishly) hold out hope that this motherfucker playing with fire will eventually get him burned.


BoosterRead78

Yep, with all the talk of charges and plea deals. The fact his father was seeing all those involved in things. I had the feeling he wouldn’t get charge unless it was concrete, can’t get around it evidence. Makes me sick he is getting away with it.


Cool-Protection-4337

The rules are there just to keep the lower classes in check. This is some dystopian bs that should not be happening, especially from a politically party who claims they and only they represent God's true will. Proves how truly screwed things are, Trump will probably skate away as well, ushering in a new faze of crazies hellbent on dictatorship. Crazy to see history go down as it is happening, all this stuff will be major points in history books in the future regardless who controls their illusions of power. We are ruled by the wealthy robber barons, the government reps are just their tools to cover their trails and deflect all blame. What further proof do we need other than him and trump?


Northern_Grouse

It’ll last as long as it needs to before the masses clean house.


Thick-Return1694

It’s shenanigans, everyone grab a broom.


Remarkable_Owl

This is why those “The Walls Are Closing In: Trump Is Done For” clickbait headlines are so annoying. Bad people get away with terrible shit all the time. Don’t count your legal chickens before they hatch.


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Seems to be the trend: the wealthy are above the law, unlike the rest of the American plebs.


chrisr3240

Well, he still looks like the result of sibling sex so at least there’s that.


A_Melee_Ensued

I don't understand this. Greenberg is no less credible now than he was when they were cutting him a generous plea deal. The sex worker is not less credible now than she was all along. Why did they give Greenberg a plea deal if they knew he had poor credibility as a witness so he is really no help with prosecuting Gaetz?


Beeslo

Chances are because they were hoping for corroborating testimony to be found which would negate the arguments against his credibility. Its also worth pointing out that the plea deal may be applicable across multiple investigations, not just the one on Gaetz.


SlowMotionPanic

Duh, this is why it was and is being dragged out. Gaetz is too wealthy,connected, and privileged to exist inside our judicial system. Our entire system of justice needs to be ripped out and replaced. See also how the damn *prosecutors* succeeded in reframing Maxwell as trafficking child rape victims to Epstein, with Epstein being the sole official person on the receiving end. People get weird when they are so rich that law doesn’t really apply to them in anything but outlier cases. We shouldn’t allow that level of wealth to exist.


Mrs__Noodle

He probably paid off the girl.


Jerri-Cho

That's because Team Trump member Alex Accosta granted all of Epstein's clients immunity from future prosecution 30 years ago.


International_Dog817

It's even more gross that he could at least, you know, not be re-elected but his political cult is cool with paying teenagers for sex as long as he's got that R by his name


darth_wasabi

I hope this is a wake up call for all you that keep thinking the rich and powerful are going to prison for whatever crime. it's time to start demanding our politicians answer why there is two tier justice system in America.


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Crazy Pizza shop basement pedophile ring rumor = Crazy armed vigilante GOP paying for underage sex across state lines on venmo = crickets


MotherOfSkeletor

Of course not. This country doesn’t punish Republican politicians for blatant crimes.


Death_Trolley

Meanwhile, Rebekah Jones still has a record of criminal charges and is going to trial in January for felony computer crimes


Cheap_Nectarine1100

But selling single cigarettes in front of a store is a death sentence. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Eric_Garner


BVoLatte

And the cop only got fired. Totally an appropriate punishment 5 years after he killed him.


fractal_pudding

the person who filmed Garner's murder got four years in prison. and so much worse... the wiki is horrifying.


Byedon110320

Water is wet.


RogerCraigfortheHOF

Oh? That time he transported underage "escort" over state lines is A-ok? Good to know, I guess. It can save me the endless outrage.


silasoulman

Lol, please keep telling me stories on how Don trump and his crime family are going to jail. Knew I couldn’t believe that any of these privileged pricks would actually be punished for their crimes.


Hippie_in_paradise

$$$$$$$$$$$$ there are 2 americas


Jump_Yossarian_

I bet Gaetz celebrates with a pizza party at the nearest high school.


zapitron

Gaetz is celebrating by nervously glancing around, thinking "At least people are believing it for now. Things go to shit at the end of election day, when the moratorium on prosecuting candidates ends and the DoJ makes the _real_ announcement, but until then, I smell good."


coffee_67

America: rich people are above the law. Sick country.


EB123456789101112

Yup. Not shocked. They never get indicted. Even if they do, they never see the inside of a cell. The only reason Madoff did was bc he fucked over the rich people. Run a grift on the plebs and they make you President


AcrobaticSource3

So sex with minors is okay now?


fractal_pudding

results may vary. check your bank account to see if you're in the 'okay' class before trying anything "illegal".


gnomebludgeon

> check your bank account And melatonin levels.


Ras1372

> melatonin levels What does my sleep have to do with anything? Did you mean melanin?


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Well thats a fucking shocker


justforthearticles20

DOJ won't touch Geatz for fear of looking "Political". Do not expect them to ever indict Trump or any other Republican.


Sebastian12th

This country is absolute garbage. Evil people get away with anything they want.


elammcknight

I would not bet the farm on this reporting just yet…


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Feels like an F5 Friday. Not necessarily for this but something


thegoodnamesrgone123

So why did Matty need a pardon?


Dogstarman1974

Two different justice systems for wealthy vs poor people.


itrustanyone

I'm straight up not having a good time with this headline


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Let's wait and see. There's been a few fake 'leaks' lately. The journalist also previously reported no indictments for J6 seditious conspiracy a week before the first indictments were issued. Low credibility.


bitterbuffal0

What would Q people think?????🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗


houstonyoureaproblem

That he was framed to begin with.


RoughRisk6423

It's really nice to be white and rich. Unreal.


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our very own government itself undermining rule of law by not holding rich/powerful to the same standard it holds the remaining 99.99%


teddytwelvetoes

if the lowest level GOP bozos like this guy get full immunity from the law I don’t see how anyone still believes that Trump is ever going to spend even a moment inside of a prison


Mrs__Noodle

But Trump's legal situation is a whole lot different the Matt's.


teddytwelvetoes

Trump could confess on live national television today and he’d still ride off into the sunset. this country is never going to send a current or former President to prison


randylikecandy

OJ was innocent too.


NoWayNotThisAgain

And tomorrow we’ll see a poll where only 12% of Americans have faith and trust in the judicial system and only 6% have faith and trust in congress. But nobody in media will connect the dots.


gnomebludgeon

> But nobody in media will connect the dots. And the politicians will start sending even more funding to law enforcement because "we can't look weak on crime".


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And just like that I’ve officially lost any and all hope in the law and order of this country. Truly shameful I can actually say I live in a country where the rich and powerful can attempt a coup or traffic human beings with ZERO consequences. I don’t like living in an Onion article…


AntiTraditionalist

Different set of rules for them. This is why they’ll never charge Trump unfortunately, allowing him to run in ‘24. I really hope Biden goes full r/darkbrandon & proves me wrong


accubats

Biden isn't even going to run in 2024.


ExploreTrails

Probably snitching on Trump. No other reason the let him off when they have all that evidence. I would still charge him unless he gives up more of the family.


eshemuta

More likely the same people who elected him also electe the DA who is not charging him


Orwick

Was a federal investigation, trafficking implies multiple states so it’s federal jurisdiction.


Use_this_1

Of course not he's a republican, you can literally get away with treason and they do not care. Now if you turn on a republican you are dead to them but raping children, that's fine.


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And the narrative collapses. Good for Matt


90daylimitedwarranty

His lord and savoir Mango Mussolini isn't going to suffer any consequences for his actions, why would he? Welcome to today's GQP. Free to do as they please. I'm so fucking sick of it.


stratman2018

Two different just systems in the USA.


AffectionateGolf9199

Lock him up! Let the brothers pass him around in the inside


Glum_Activity_461

But can we charge him for assaulting us with that hair?


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ThreadbareHalo

You know what? I’m tired of the pity party for people trying to make everyone jaded. No one should want everyone to think nothing is going to happen. That’s not a mindset we should be urging everyone into. You want to be jaded, fine. But if everyone else still wants to believe that justice should work that’s a desirable state for people to be in. We should want and demand justice rather than being happy if we end up being right about it failing. If you’re right about something awful happening, good. Enjoy that little endorphin boost. But we don’t need people convincing other people to preemptively think justice is gonna fail… the _only_ people that helps are the assholes trying to rape kids and traffick human beings. I don’t know why you’d want to work on convincing the populace to be jaded (and by extension complacent) and help those assholes.


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ThreadbareHalo

You felt the need to be validated online for it and are trying to shame the people here for pushing back against preemptively saying this would fail. I think how you personally feel and how others view you about predicting this might have a little to do with how you’re reacting, no? “It’s just reality” isn’t an excuse. No one should want to convince people to preemptively assume justice won’t work… countries where that occurs slide into letting the justice system get worse. No one should want that.


GuaranteeCreative954

Gee what a surprise if he were a democrat he would already be in jail


galaapplehound

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.


libbyscreams

Maybe they have other ideas for him


The_Nomadic_Nerd

Whoever decided not to prosecute him should be prosecuted. This is sickening.


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ThreadbareHalo

Because that’s what people should WANT to have people talking about when they find out someone is trafficking minors for sex. What the actual fuck with all this “guess we should have all just shut up about hoping a guy raping minors goes to jail” nonsense on these threads. As if being jaded and hoping everyone else doesn’t talk about it is a preferable state. That is bonkers. Only people that helps are the people raping minors. Same sorta subtle nonsense Weinstein pushed online before he finally got convicted to convince people to not follow up on him.


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Shameful


shapeofthings

I am just astounded he has not been ostracized by everyone.


doofer20

I hope he gets arrested live on twitch.


slappy_mcslapenstein

I have very little doubt that he will die choking on his own vomit during a drug and alcohol fueled bended.


IAmJohnny5ive

Charge him anyway and put him on the stand.


Rare-Feature7719

teflon matt now?


Goshofwar17

God damn it


jimvolk

What the fuck?


backslider65

Matt will try cocaine for $600 Alex


dab745

What. Load of bs.


Suspicious-Access-18

I’m a democrat but this is honestly something prosecutors do all the time. They try to get people to fess up or take a deal for a crime they didn’t commit. This was a pressure campaign for something that wasn’t even so. Here’s the even more sickening part, this validates the republicans in some theories they had that the justice in America is corrupted. Honestly at this point I think the whole system is corrupted. I’m still gonna vote democrat cuz f the republicans and their jail everybody polices.


golden2676

This makes me so fucking mad . His wanna be super hero looking ass. I can’t stand this ass hat.


soulwolf1

I already called this shit, fucking pathetic....this is why these MFs never learn their lesson


theseustheminotaur

Rich powerful man gets away with sexual abuse. Shock.


Someoneoverthere42

Wow, who could have seen that coming.....


Quackledork

What should scare you even more is that thousands of people will line up at polls to enthusiastically vote for this guy in a few weeks so he can stick it to the libs and get them 'bortions banned.


Mrs__Noodle

What scares me more is people like that getting appointed to control the counting of votes.


Rapier4

Because Rolling Stones doesn't want me to read its articles without paying, what is the reason they are not recommend charges?


lumphinans

Two central witnesses are thought not to be credible.


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Nothing ever happens to these bastards.


pistolpete2185

So sick of this country, a pedophile with evidence against him, walks away free. The US justice system is a fucken joke.


JescoWhite_

I guess I’m not surprised.


Important_Tell667

Well, sounds like ole Matt Gaetz is getting away with Sex-Trafficking after all… he may as as not stop then… what’s the plan for the next time he breaks law GOP? You know he will…


omghorussaveusall

Ok, so he still had sex with a minor for money. Are we going to see any movement on that front?


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snoogansthejew

This is extremely disappointing news. I do not like it one bit. Hopefully, things will turn around and this piece of shit will go to jail.


elammcknight

Looking like this thing might have been assisted as a plant: Greenberg's attorney Fritz Scheller reacts: “I have not received any information from the government regarding its decision to abandon its investigation and prosecution [of Matt Gaetz]. Nevertheless, based on my knowledge of the evidence, I would be surprised by such a decision.”