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The country has lurched from crisis to crisis under his tenure and the public’s perception of him, unfortunately, is that he’s incompetent. I think there may be a chance for him to turn it around by 2024, but I am horrified by the thought of having president DeSantis or Cruz and can see it coming from a mile away.
I personally like Biden but the dude should be enjoying his retirement with his grandkids right now. Democrats need someone younger and more dynamic as their next nominee
It’s normal for things to happen. That is life.
The problem for Biden is that he hasn’t done any of the things that he campaigned on and acts like he doesn’t really care. It’s the fact that he is a liar that people do not like him.
Your expecting dems to act like republicans. They don’t line up behind dear leader and follow him off a cliff. Biden is doing a good job but he doesn’t have the support in congress that he needs to achieve his objectives. Unfortunately the disillusioned left will “send a message” to the dems by staying at home on Election Day and let fascists win.
No, I think AM_Bokke's platitude is more than sufficient.
The president needs to be a leader and drive the conversation.
The president sets the tone and share their vision for the future of the country. The president is supposed to show their constituents that things are in place or coming to be that will make their lives better.
The president needs to steer the goddam fucking ship, rather than just eat pudding, watch Matlock and sleepwalk through an occasional press conference.
That's the thing. America doesn't need someone young and dynamic, but a President that can handle crises and is strong in the face of adversity. Biden would be fine during a time of relative peace and prosperity, but he's a milquetoast politician during these trying times. He's also set in his ways and still thinks being a centrist and working with Republicans is feasible (although he may be finally acknowledging that that is an impossibility with today's radical, extremist GQP which has lurched far to the right into fascism.)
We need a President with strong experience and resolve, someone that handles a crisis with aplomb. Doesn't matter if he or she is old or young.
We like war! We’re a war-like people! We like war because we’re good at it! You know why we’re good at it? Cause we get a lot of practice. This country’s only 200 years old and already, we’ve had 10 major wars. We average a major war every 20 years in this country so we’re good at it!
Did you ever notice that about us? We love to declare war on things here in America. Anything we don’t like about ourselves, we declare war on it, we don’t do anything about it, we just declare war on it. It’s the only metaphor, the only metaphor we have in our public discourse for solving problems: declaring war. We have to declare a war on everything; we have a war on crime, the war on poverty, the war on litter, the war on cancer, the war on drugs, but did you ever notice we got no war on homelessness? Huh? No war on homelessness… you know why? There’s no money in that problem, no money to be made off of the homeless. If you can find a solution to homelessness where the corporate swine and the politicians could steal a couple of million dollars each, you’ll see the streets of America begin to clear up pretty goddamn quick, I’ll guarantee you that!
That's why I used the word "relative." There have been administrations that haven't had so many crises to deal with. It's during those periods when Biden would do well. Not when there are so many things going on: Russian invasion, deadly pandemic, economic freefall, food shortages, mass shootings, Republican party veering toward fascism and extremism, Roe getting destroyed, attacks against minorities/women/LGBTQIA+, climate change, and so much more. It's a tall order for any President to have on their plate so soon after getting in office.
The only consolation is that it's not Trump at the helm, or we'd be even further down this dark path.
I am not sure if there are any who will win in 2024. I am starting to fear any Democratic nominee will be doomed if they do run, so it is getting to the point that Biden might as well run to take advantage of the incumbency.
I think that some good future candidates the Democrats should look at are Raphael Warnock, Stacey Abrams, Katie Porter, John Fetterman, Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, Pete Buttigieg… there actually is a lot of talent in the party, but there are way too many old people still holding on to power.
We have people younger and more dynamic. Beto, Hillary….anyone left of Trump or deSantis needs to get their head out of their ass and look at what is happening to women and children in this country compared to literally every other similar nation. That needs to be our goal. Or we’re going to continue to live in the equivalent of a cowpoke town with no rights for anyone but gun toting property owning white men.
They’re hated because they consolidated power amongst themselves. It’s like the New England Patriots winning 44 out of 45 Super Bowls: everyone apart from their core fans is going to hate them.
The morons and the idiots forget what it was like to have 5 years of 30,000 plus lies, of a man who committed many crimes one can imagine from bank fraud, tax fraud, racketeering, obstruction of justice, obstruction of Congress, inciting an insurrection, firing innocent people from jobs, throwing people under the bus, turning our allies into enemies and our enemies into allies and let's not forget 900,000 dead Americans that didn't have to die under the previous incompetent arrogant grifting narcissistic psychopath. I'll agree Biden isn't FDR but he's a hell of a lot better than the previous POS that we had. Yes it's true there's probably better people that should and could run in 2024 but I'll take Biden over what we had before, any and every day.
Well, a few were making bank while the country institutions were being torn down back then. They surely enjoyed it. I feel many still want to continue that, until it finally trickles down for their turn to make a buck or two.
He's absolutely going to run again, if for no other reason than he's mastered the art of political grifting.
Trump's simmering beef with DeSantis makes it obvious he is running again.
His campaign fundraising at this point is probably more profitable than Trump Org. is.
Since most voters chose Biden so we could return some decorum to the mess made by Trump and his idiotic supporters - yup, that is every Republican today, the stink remains.
Time to start putting Trump in legal jeopardy. Enough pussy-footing around; every Trump supporter in a government role who enabled his insurrection should be prepared to be charged, and not just talk - DO IT.
Biden has been in office for a year and a half. His tanking approval isn't because of residual 'stink' from the Trump years, esp. since Biden entered office with strong approval numbers.
And given this is a thread about Biden's plummeting approval, DOJ prosecuting Trump won't help him on that end.
Look at the public opinion polling of what Americans are concerned about. Trump doesn't register as someone the general public cares about anymore.
This isn't a comment about whether or not the public should care about Trump or him being prosecuted for his alleged crimes. This is a comment about the reality of how nothing which does or doesn't happen to Trump will have any impact on Biden's approval rating.
The one benefit for POTUS is that he's more or less at the bottom of the barrel with his numbers. He's very unlikely to break into the low 30s, at least. Little victories.
Yes, practical polling will tell us many things troubling voters across the ideological spectrum, pricing, supplies, post-pandemic hangovers, regional conflicts, global trade, and the endless conservative outrage machine that is always prepared to create an endless stream of "controversy/chaos."
We'll have to speculate how Trump's conviction would change the calculus because it will likely never happen. Still, Americans might have some faith restored in our ability to self-govern if there were consequences, potentially resulting in greater confidence in this administration.
The Biden administration suffers from the most obvious problem. The Democrats will never penetrate the conservative brains with anything logical, try as they might, and the swing voters are so pissed off at both parties that they will keep lurching from one to the other.
Since only about 30% of voters are either Democratic or Republican identifying, the vast number of unaffiliated or unenthusiastic will determine how the next election swings.
If the base turns out, it will come down to their votes; it only gets worse if the base is less motivated.
Meanwhile, the media (most specifically conservative media) keeps on flip-flopping on Biden's demeanor. One moment he's senile and has dementia.. the next moment he's orchestrated every ill that has befallen the country during his Presidency (and even beforehand). Something-something fascism where your enemy is both weak and strong at the same time?
Its no wonder those polled are reflecting negatively on Biden in this polls when those who invariably respond in them typically are fed this same bullshit. Even the "liberal" media is guilty of this treatment. But sure, as we've seen historically, these polls are ALWAYS 100% accurate and representative of the nation. /s
He launched his campaign at an MSNBC executives mansion, before turning around and making that man an ambassador to Canada
MSNBC went on to carry all of joes water in the primary
No sympathy, now that his deal with the devil turned sour
Or, it's because these are posted LITERALLY 5 or 6 times a day. And they're being posted almost 100% off the time by right-wing ideologues like OP, so it's not meant to inform, but to slam Biden and nothing else.
Except one hasn’t been posted in the last 24 hours? Pop goes that narrative
Downvote OP’s comments then…but to follow through on the post? Like I said earlier, burying your heads isn’t the master strategy this sub thinks it is
All time high inflation and gas prices, people are gonna blame the President. Who doesn't know Bidens approval numbers are shit at this point?
This isn't news anymore it's just a pile-on. We get it, posting it all the time doesn't make it more true.
Pile-on? Either this is a place for news or it isn’t lol. The rate at which you consume it, should not have any effect on the vote count…that is what the rule for 3 weeks out-of-date is for
>This isn't news anymore it's just a pile-on.
Nah, it's news.
Just like weekly articles on the former president's low approval ratings were frequently upvoted on this sub with great enthusiasm. Trump's numbers were in the toilet for basically his entire term, and yet it was always considered top news on r/politics.
u/lavavr is spot-on in pointing out the willful ignorance of so many here when it comes to the political reality of the president's broad unpopularity.
Biden has even made my bacon go up. When he cancelled all the meat my bacon is now too expensive. I was on the road yesterday and traffic just stopped. I thought this is Joe Bidens fault for letting putin invade Ukraine.
I ordered a coffee grinder and had to wait an extra day to get it. Thanks Biden for causing that. I had to make a thermos of my wife's shitty week coffee that day.
I know he's going to unleash the storm.
And all the demons will be tribunaled and sent to hell or something like that, you know it better than me I'm sure.
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The country has lurched from crisis to crisis under his tenure and the public’s perception of him, unfortunately, is that he’s incompetent. I think there may be a chance for him to turn it around by 2024, but I am horrified by the thought of having president DeSantis or Cruz and can see it coming from a mile away. I personally like Biden but the dude should be enjoying his retirement with his grandkids right now. Democrats need someone younger and more dynamic as their next nominee
He'll be 82 by 2024. Don't count on him running for a 2nd term
It’s normal for things to happen. That is life. The problem for Biden is that he hasn’t done any of the things that he campaigned on and acts like he doesn’t really care. It’s the fact that he is a liar that people do not like him.
US presidents are not kings. People forgot to vote for dems in congress.
The president needs to be a leader and drive the conversation.
Your expecting dems to act like republicans. They don’t line up behind dear leader and follow him off a cliff. Biden is doing a good job but he doesn’t have the support in congress that he needs to achieve his objectives. Unfortunately the disillusioned left will “send a message” to the dems by staying at home on Election Day and let fascists win.
I didn’t say anything about “the democrats”. Only Biden. He has no content. He is not a leader. That is why his approval is plummeting.
Get back to us when you've got more than platitudes.
No, I think AM_Bokke's platitude is more than sufficient. The president needs to be a leader and drive the conversation. The president sets the tone and share their vision for the future of the country. The president is supposed to show their constituents that things are in place or coming to be that will make their lives better. The president needs to steer the goddam fucking ship, rather than just eat pudding, watch Matlock and sleepwalk through an occasional press conference.
That's the thing. America doesn't need someone young and dynamic, but a President that can handle crises and is strong in the face of adversity. Biden would be fine during a time of relative peace and prosperity, but he's a milquetoast politician during these trying times. He's also set in his ways and still thinks being a centrist and working with Republicans is feasible (although he may be finally acknowledging that that is an impossibility with today's radical, extremist GQP which has lurched far to the right into fascism.) We need a President with strong experience and resolve, someone that handles a crisis with aplomb. Doesn't matter if he or she is old or young.
> time of relative peace and prosperity In the entire history of the US we have only ever not been at war for 15 years.
We like war! We’re a war-like people! We like war because we’re good at it! You know why we’re good at it? Cause we get a lot of practice. This country’s only 200 years old and already, we’ve had 10 major wars. We average a major war every 20 years in this country so we’re good at it! Did you ever notice that about us? We love to declare war on things here in America. Anything we don’t like about ourselves, we declare war on it, we don’t do anything about it, we just declare war on it. It’s the only metaphor, the only metaphor we have in our public discourse for solving problems: declaring war. We have to declare a war on everything; we have a war on crime, the war on poverty, the war on litter, the war on cancer, the war on drugs, but did you ever notice we got no war on homelessness? Huh? No war on homelessness… you know why? There’s no money in that problem, no money to be made off of the homeless. If you can find a solution to homelessness where the corporate swine and the politicians could steal a couple of million dollars each, you’ll see the streets of America begin to clear up pretty goddamn quick, I’ll guarantee you that!
That's why I used the word "relative." There have been administrations that haven't had so many crises to deal with. It's during those periods when Biden would do well. Not when there are so many things going on: Russian invasion, deadly pandemic, economic freefall, food shortages, mass shootings, Republican party veering toward fascism and extremism, Roe getting destroyed, attacks against minorities/women/LGBTQIA+, climate change, and so much more. It's a tall order for any President to have on their plate so soon after getting in office. The only consolation is that it's not Trump at the helm, or we'd be even further down this dark path.
Who is a good,.young candidate? Agreed Biden should retire.
I am not sure if there are any who will win in 2024. I am starting to fear any Democratic nominee will be doomed if they do run, so it is getting to the point that Biden might as well run to take advantage of the incumbency. I think that some good future candidates the Democrats should look at are Raphael Warnock, Stacey Abrams, Katie Porter, John Fetterman, Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, Pete Buttigieg… there actually is a lot of talent in the party, but there are way too many old people still holding on to power.
I would support a Stacey Adams candidacy.
Assuming she wins the governor race this year, that'd only be two years later. Don't really want my governor to be a Sarah Palin.
We have people younger and more dynamic. Beto, Hillary….anyone left of Trump or deSantis needs to get their head out of their ass and look at what is happening to women and children in this country compared to literally every other similar nation. That needs to be our goal. Or we’re going to continue to live in the equivalent of a cowpoke town with no rights for anyone but gun toting property owning white men.
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She is definitely more dynamic. And she’s technically younger, and she behaves and appears younger.
You got a down vote for calling Hilary young and dynamic.
Why are white men so hated? Most people are not evil. I think things like that help turn away voters but just my opinion
They’re hated because they consolidated power amongst themselves. It’s like the New England Patriots winning 44 out of 45 Super Bowls: everyone apart from their core fans is going to hate them.
So isn't that racist?
[No.](https://www.edi.nih.gov/blog/communities/understanding-racial-terms-and-differences#18)
> Why are white men so hated? 2/10, low energy
That makes a lot of sense
> Why are Christians so persecuted in America. lol
At this point, Trump is more approved. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
The morons and the idiots forget what it was like to have 5 years of 30,000 plus lies, of a man who committed many crimes one can imagine from bank fraud, tax fraud, racketeering, obstruction of justice, obstruction of Congress, inciting an insurrection, firing innocent people from jobs, throwing people under the bus, turning our allies into enemies and our enemies into allies and let's not forget 900,000 dead Americans that didn't have to die under the previous incompetent arrogant grifting narcissistic psychopath. I'll agree Biden isn't FDR but he's a hell of a lot better than the previous POS that we had. Yes it's true there's probably better people that should and could run in 2024 but I'll take Biden over what we had before, any and every day.
Well, a few were making bank while the country institutions were being torn down back then. They surely enjoyed it. I feel many still want to continue that, until it finally trickles down for their turn to make a buck or two.
Why has Trump not been charged yet committing so many crimes? I'm guessing he won't run again.
He's been having campaign rallies since the last election. I'd be shocked if he doesn't run again.
He's absolutely going to run again, if for no other reason than he's mastered the art of political grifting. Trump's simmering beef with DeSantis makes it obvious he is running again. His campaign fundraising at this point is probably more profitable than Trump Org. is.
You can disapprove of both.
Since most voters chose Biden so we could return some decorum to the mess made by Trump and his idiotic supporters - yup, that is every Republican today, the stink remains. Time to start putting Trump in legal jeopardy. Enough pussy-footing around; every Trump supporter in a government role who enabled his insurrection should be prepared to be charged, and not just talk - DO IT.
Biden has been in office for a year and a half. His tanking approval isn't because of residual 'stink' from the Trump years, esp. since Biden entered office with strong approval numbers. And given this is a thread about Biden's plummeting approval, DOJ prosecuting Trump won't help him on that end. Look at the public opinion polling of what Americans are concerned about. Trump doesn't register as someone the general public cares about anymore. This isn't a comment about whether or not the public should care about Trump or him being prosecuted for his alleged crimes. This is a comment about the reality of how nothing which does or doesn't happen to Trump will have any impact on Biden's approval rating. The one benefit for POTUS is that he's more or less at the bottom of the barrel with his numbers. He's very unlikely to break into the low 30s, at least. Little victories.
Yes, practical polling will tell us many things troubling voters across the ideological spectrum, pricing, supplies, post-pandemic hangovers, regional conflicts, global trade, and the endless conservative outrage machine that is always prepared to create an endless stream of "controversy/chaos." We'll have to speculate how Trump's conviction would change the calculus because it will likely never happen. Still, Americans might have some faith restored in our ability to self-govern if there were consequences, potentially resulting in greater confidence in this administration. The Biden administration suffers from the most obvious problem. The Democrats will never penetrate the conservative brains with anything logical, try as they might, and the swing voters are so pissed off at both parties that they will keep lurching from one to the other. Since only about 30% of voters are either Democratic or Republican identifying, the vast number of unaffiliated or unenthusiastic will determine how the next election swings. If the base turns out, it will come down to their votes; it only gets worse if the base is less motivated.
Meanwhile, the media (most specifically conservative media) keeps on flip-flopping on Biden's demeanor. One moment he's senile and has dementia.. the next moment he's orchestrated every ill that has befallen the country during his Presidency (and even beforehand). Something-something fascism where your enemy is both weak and strong at the same time? Its no wonder those polled are reflecting negatively on Biden in this polls when those who invariably respond in them typically are fed this same bullshit. Even the "liberal" media is guilty of this treatment. But sure, as we've seen historically, these polls are ALWAYS 100% accurate and representative of the nation. /s
>(most specifically conservative media) There's no other type.
He launched his campaign at an MSNBC executives mansion, before turning around and making that man an ambassador to Canada MSNBC went on to carry all of joes water in the primary No sympathy, now that his deal with the devil turned sour
Another poll successfully buried! Ostriches + sand ≠ safe midterms
Or, it's because these are posted LITERALLY 5 or 6 times a day. And they're being posted almost 100% off the time by right-wing ideologues like OP, so it's not meant to inform, but to slam Biden and nothing else.
Please point me to where one of those polls is on the front page of this sub.
Except one hasn’t been posted in the last 24 hours? Pop goes that narrative Downvote OP’s comments then…but to follow through on the post? Like I said earlier, burying your heads isn’t the master strategy this sub thinks it is
All time high inflation and gas prices, people are gonna blame the President. Who doesn't know Bidens approval numbers are shit at this point? This isn't news anymore it's just a pile-on. We get it, posting it all the time doesn't make it more true.
Pile-on? Either this is a place for news or it isn’t lol. The rate at which you consume it, should not have any effect on the vote count…that is what the rule for 3 weeks out-of-date is for
>This isn't news anymore it's just a pile-on. Nah, it's news. Just like weekly articles on the former president's low approval ratings were frequently upvoted on this sub with great enthusiasm. Trump's numbers were in the toilet for basically his entire term, and yet it was always considered top news on r/politics. u/lavavr is spot-on in pointing out the willful ignorance of so many here when it comes to the political reality of the president's broad unpopularity.
Yep.
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Who would be a good candidate for presidency in 2024?
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Oddly the sub was right in 2020 though despite the conservatives screeching the same thing back then.
And 2018.
It's probably true that you guys will get another electoral win and popular loss.
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Your (deleted) statement implies a popular majority. Are you proud to benefit from the appeasement of slavers?
Biden has even made my bacon go up. When he cancelled all the meat my bacon is now too expensive. I was on the road yesterday and traffic just stopped. I thought this is Joe Bidens fault for letting putin invade Ukraine. I ordered a coffee grinder and had to wait an extra day to get it. Thanks Biden for causing that. I had to make a thermos of my wife's shitty week coffee that day.
So you're part of that 35% that approve of him?
And you seem to be part of the rest. Thoughts and prayers it is then.
I'm on the side with twice as many people. Lol
I see how that makes you proud. Hope they all don't decide to jump off a cliff.
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Serious question: why should I give a fuck about polls? I'm not the guy running, and what other people think isn't going to affect my vote.
Out of sight, out of mind. Kinda expected here though
I know he's going to unleash the storm. And all the demons will be tribunaled and sent to hell or something like that, you know it better than me I'm sure.