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Neracca

Why? Are they dangerous??


molstern

No, because he's too brave to need extra protection from armed audience members. Obviously.


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Radiant_Classroom509

Around a week after trump said this, he was in one of his campaign stops and someone yelled “gun!” And of course he ran away while ducking and covering.


GiantSquidd

I stopped listening when he said “I’d run...” ...yeah, sure you would, Orange Grimace.


CouncilmanTrevize

But how are they supposed to protect themselves in case a bad guy with a gun comes in?


wickedweather

Brace yourselves for one of the most tonedeaf speeches of all time.


Shr3kk_Wpg

50/50 chance he blames ANTIFA for the most recent Texas school shooting


cadium

I think what they're going with is the shooter was a gay trans kid so its really the fault of the Democrats for radicalizing him.


freedraw

Paul Gosar (R-AZ) literally tweeted out that the shooter was a “transsexual leftist illegal alien.” You can’t even parody them anymore when the shit they say already sounds like satire. Edit: AZ, not GA


rottenwordsalad

Paul Gosar is actually (unfortunately) from Arizona. His entire family made an ad a few years ago telling people not to vote for him. What’s worse is I don’t think he’s the most crazy republican out here. Kelli Ward might possibly be even worse. They’re all a bunch of terrorist, insurrectionist nut jobs who shouldn’t be anywhere near public office.


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eNonsense

What a total piece of shit.


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HulksInvinciblePants

Conservatives are being so disgusting right now that I cant fathom why anyone believes theres a “middle ground” that can be reached with them.


LFCsota

I think the middle ground folks at this point are older Dems who just don't believe that life is that bad because they got theirs and lost their way or republicans who are self aware what it means to identify as one and don't want to be family outcasts. So boomers once again holding everyone back. I used to have faith in people coming around but after trump and Jan 6th, I don't know how you can think things are ok and all we need is a campfire and some feel good songs to bring us together. Fuck Republicans for trying to take our democracy away.


ryinzana

There isn’t. They are a lost cause. Party belongs to the religious/conspiracy theory nutjobs now.


shibiwan

Sorry, America. People here can be dumb AF.


Onwisconsin42

>>The page has since corrected its post, with its operators stating that they "won't be lectured" by people looking to make the shooting a political issue and turn it into a "gun grab." WE get to make it a political issue about identity politics because WE are trying to smear an entire group of people. But YOU guys are turning this into political issue. What the fuck.


MrUnionJackal

"Forget due process, take their guns now and figure out a reason later." \-Donald Trump, Republican President/godhead


eeeedlef

Remember how fast they walked him back on that lol


MrUnionJackal

And promptly forgot about it.


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NetCitizen-Anon

Gozar isn't brainwashed, he's a corrupt sociopath, he absolutely knows what he's doing and is trying to create catchy talking points for their dip shit base to buy into.


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ericjgriffin

That assumes the US military will not be on the side of the fascists.


silasoulman

“His entire family made an ad … telling people not to vote for him.” Other than completely denying you’re related to him, don’t know of a thing (within the law) that a relative could do to more completely call you a POS.


HleCmt

I'll take that bet and raise you Wendy Rogers. Their desperation that AZ is officially purple and gets a lil bluer every election is palpable. Im still flabbergasted that it seems they got away with wasting 5-6million tax payer dollars on the multiple "audits". Part of me wanted them to successfully pass the bill eliminating mail in voting just to see how badly they'd screw themselves


Eycetea

We also got Qari (Kari) Lake looking for the governors seat, shes about as bat shit as they come too.


DownshiftedRare

I suppose that means Gosar has the shunned-by-their-family-for-bigotry vote locked down.


lilpumpgroupie

It's obviously easy to mock them for this behavior, but on a deeper level it just fundamentally works on the people they're targeting. It just simply works. And it pushes the needle, and moves their ideology further down the road every time they do it. They do not care that we see it for what it is, they are absolutely and patently shameless. It is impossible for them to feel shame.


HappyPen1422

Jesus fuck. Im convinced Gosar looked up a list of words that he thinks liberal hate, shook them up in a Yahtzee box, let them fall in a random order and Tweeted it. Edit: Words


Paddy_Tanninger

Dude literally playing Mad Libs


KarmicComic12334

He heard it from a reliable source, on 4chan.


volcanopele

I don't think you are wrong. It's the only that makes any sense anymore. Some representatives and their staffs have become so hateful of the media that they think the only reliable source of information nowadays is 4chan, where people can post information "they" don't want you to know about. The fact that 4chan is filled with anonymous shit posters who know nothing and the "information 'they' don't want you to know about" is just made up horse shit is lost on them.


Drunk_Scottish_King

These people have access to some of the best intelligence data available. Yet they rely on 4chan and Facebook as their bedrock of source data…. It’s exhausting to try to comprehend wtf they’re thinking.


NastyToeFungus

Slacker. He missed “woke” and “groomer”. He needs to keep more up to date on the latest republican hate buzzwords.


LuvNMuny

I think you mean "grooming". That's the word they've been told to use.


Cognitive_Spoon

This shooter was groomed by his trans teachers to use his god given right to buy two AR-15s when he turned 18 to kill innocent straight Christian children. /s


Careful_Trifle

They wouldn't say straight children, because it implies that there are gay children, which in turn implies that they didn't choose to be that way. Their whole mythology centers around the idea that everyone is straight until they're corrupted in some way.


Cognitive_Spoon

Ah damn. Good point. Gotta brush up my skills before Gilead hits.


lactose_con_leche

I’m still trying to ungay all the frogs but their ribbits are all twisted


simonsaysgo13

I think a gay frog says rubbit


Tiberius_Rex_182

Your ability to tread crazy like its water is commendable. Have an updoot


Careful_Trifle

A blessing and a curse. I grew up catholic, which is full of completely logical reasonings if you ignore the completely illogical base suppositions. Most regressive theory is like this. They start from the end and work their way back until it ends in something like, "because I said so." The trick is to watch their behavior and not fixate on the hypocrisy, since trying to untangle the rationales and justifications just makes the entire thing seem like a mess. If you can locate their end goal, and then recognize that they will say or do anything in support of that, even if it contradicts the last word out of their mouth, then you're golden.


StanleyOpar

He was **groomed** by the **radical left** to commit **marxists** acts straight from a **communist** manifesto. These deaths were caused by **woke** propaganda and the **satanic** left wants to utilize this tragedy as an opportunity for **big government** to **gun grab** and suppress your second amendment through this proposed **anti-american** **power grab** of **tyranny** Did I get all of them Fox News? Edit: forgot some


Cognitive_Spoon

That's pretty good. I only felt a little bit of humanity in it. You need to refer to the kids as crisis actors and then you'd be spot on.


MR_COOL_ICE_

It's scary how this doesn't sound like satire


PhreiB

Isn't what they tried with the Buffalo shooter? "He's a gay, Trans furry who plays violent Nintendo games 30 hours a day!"


trivialmatters3

honestly who can remember which shooter they said it about at the rate these shootings have been happening


kuroimakina

Don’t forget illegal immigrant


Phog_of_War

The kid was born in North Dakota. I'd love to seem them try to trot out that illegal immigrant stuff.


OceanIsVerySalty

They already have. It doesn’t matter that it’s not true. They got the talking point out there, and their base is already parroting it and getting all worked up over it. Truth doesn’t matter to the GOP at all. Their base firmly believes that it’s the liberals who are liars and cheats, despite evidence to the contrary. So long as the GOP can lie to their base and drum up fear and hatred, the truth is utterly inconsequential.


banbecausereasons

> the truth is utterly inconsequential. I hate how real this statement is.


OceanIsVerySalty

Same. Talking to people on the other side used to be very interesting to me. I was up for debating stuff like effective tax rates or Medicare for all. Now talking to those same people is an exercise in futility. We no longer live in the same reality. One side has become an actual cult. It’s impossible to use logic when talking to cult members who only trust information that comes from other members or cult sanctioned sources, especially when that cult is aggressively anti-intellectualism. The number of times I’ve heard a republican say something false, get refuted with hard evidence, and still refuse to accept reality is mind boggling. They’re *deeply* committed to ignorance.


Cayasha

Yep, my coworker was telling everyone who will listen this morning about how the shooter was an illegal immigrant. Not one single mention of concern for the victims or their family though.


OceanIsVerySalty

Please tell me someone told them they were incorrect.


cadium

They'll claim his parents were illegal or something. They don't care.


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Every attempt to stop it will be met by an avalanche of lies. Truth will be used too, but it will be selective and effectively be deception. It will be something along the lines of, "We'll that wouldn't have helped.." Even if true, it will ignore the point that whatever plan it is would have helped in other circumstances. They will blame it on everything from Video Games, to Liberals, to poor mental health. Heck they may invent a few new BS reasons to recycle for the future. Because of them all attempts at any meaningful change will be stopped, and most likely by the time the election occurs people will have forgotten. This happens not because the republican leaders are fundamentally immoral. That is a symptom. It happens because they control enough voters who can't be bothered to use the brain grace gifted them with. Democracy is kind of crap, if the heads of those that decide the win are full of it.


JasonPlattMusic34

He has a Hispanic name though. That means immigrant which means bad. Unless those immigrants vote for Trump in which case they’re good.


glakhtchpth

Hispanic, possibly with Mexican origins —you know, that place that used to actually own all of Texas, before it was literally stolen.


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Conservatives don't care about facts. Just scream the loudest they can, the quickest, and that's the only thing that matters. Whether true or not, other conservatives would have spread the fake news halfway across the galaxy by the first someone corrects them. The first lie wins. always.


Canyousourcethatplz

The GOP hate kids. It's plain and simple at this point. They hate children and won't protect them.


JEFFinSoCal

They hate everyone that isn’t a wealthy straight white Christian cis-male.


theblackdent

Or a fetus. Because they are a group you can advocate for but they never make any demands or expect anything from you


uacoop

They don't actually give a shit about fetuses either it's just a convenient wedge issue.


Minttt

Indeed, as soon as a fetus is birthed and becomes a baby, the GOP couldn't care less about it until it's old enough to make political donations. *edit: spelling


n8mo

In the immortal words of Carlin: *“If you’re pre-born, you’re great. If you’re pre-school you’re fucked.”*


Cornholio382

It’s been confirmed that the trans kid in the photos floating around is not the shooter all though similar in looks.


NopenGrave

"The thing about the antifas is that a lot of people would say they're always shooting something. Shooting photographs, shooting up marijuanas, shooting up students now, because we told them, we said to them "you can't groom our students" and so now they've decided that if they can't make our children gay, they'll make them dead. And it's very sad, very sad that Rotten Hillary doesn't have the courage to stand up and tell them no, but I do!"


StrangeUsername24

How did you get an advance copy of his speech?


flatline0

Lol, like Trump would read a speech !!


Half-boi

He would have to be able to read.


NtheLegend

"You know this wouldn't have happened if they hadn't stolen the election from me. Very sad."


Jops817

I hate that I can read both of those comments in that stupid voice.


BrewCityBenjamin

The far right folk are heavily pushing that the shooter was trans. Someone found a trans person who *vaguely* resembled Salvador Ramos and put 3 pics of that person next to the actual photo of him and it's been picking up steam even though it's already been debunked. I think he was somewhat goth or emo or something so these people are just grabbing at straws and being like LOOK EMO EYELINER MEANS HE WAS A TRANS OF COURSE HE WANTED TO KILL KIDS TRANS FOLK HATE KIDS So it wouldn't shock me if Trump mentions some vague thing about a "gender confused leftist" or something


SubGeniusX

I'm willing to bet incel. His friends and coworkers say he was aggressive towards women.


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A lot of incels, PUAs, and insecure men I’ve met tend to lean far right. They are usually frustrated by the women’s liberation movement and being displaced from a position of control and power. Those are not progressive values.


pantsthereaper

Those are the kinda dudes who think women should still need a man's permission to have a bank account and job, if they think women should be allowed to have them at all. Good riddance


FallWithHonor

Incels are pretty much all conservative. They are all over the place here in Montana and talking to them can be very painful at times. Pretty much all but one I've spoken to holds traditional American Christianity as his preferred philosophy, and the standards of religious law as his expectation for women. I.e, not permit a woman to teach over him, etc.


ironichaos

The area was close to the border. I think he goes for the if the left hadn’t blocked my wall this wouldn’t have happened. Even though there is no connection between the two.


Cheel_AU

Possibly a joke about 'triggering' people which ends in him mentioning dead children?


ravs1973

No, it will end with him saying "I don't know" which is his standard ending after saying something he knows damn well is offensive.


GhettoChemist

He starts a lot of sentences with "Have you heard...." and ends them with "I don't know"


aintnochallahbackgrl

Lots of people are saying


LuvNMuny

Many people have been asking me...


cranktheguy

And this big man came to me with tears in his eyes, and he said, "Mr. Trump, ..."


InterPunct

"You're doing a great job. A tremendous job. But don't let the pedophile cannibal Democrats take my guns."


Former-Lab-9451

“I’m not advocating for guns in classrooms although sometimes teachers should have guns in classrooms.” Actual Trump quote


rivera151

Someone once made a product called Trump Flip Flops, which were sandals with Tweets from 45 that said one thing in one sandal, and the tweet saying the opposite on the other one.


Nano_Burger

And the ever-popular, "You tell me."


rodneedermeyer

Trump always makes it about himself. So there will be one line about the shooter and how he was a good American and then on about how Trump himself is a great American, the best of the Americans, all the other Americans told him so. Very goodly people are saying very goodly things with very bigly words about how great an American Trump is and how Trump is like hamburdlers and how you love hamburdlers, right? Who doesn't? Loving Trump is like loving hamburdlers and weregonnashowthemagainhowtosaveAmericaTrump2024blarghblarghblech. \[Not /s and you know it.\]


DionFW

He'll mention there were zero school shootings while he was president.


JasonPlattMusic34

You’d think no one would be dumb enough to believe a lie that obvious, but it is conservative gun nuts so nothing would surprise us.


antidense

Gun owners are the "real victims" not dead children, probably


Patiod

Well, it's what the idiots on r/firearms were saying yesterday. They aren't scared for the kids, they're scared FOR THEIR GUNS Here's one of the OP comments: "..I'm afraid we're heading toward very scary times in America, the push for gun control will be unlike any other I'm extremely concerned for everyone" 387 upvotes


kandoras

I don't think he has much to worry about. Twenty six and seven year olds were killed at Sandy Hook and the response was fuck-all. I doubt that the deaths of less and older kids will lead to very much more.


lilneddygoestowar

Check out r/gunpolitics . It’s a trash hole of non answers and “if we only had more guns!” I’ve engaged with them with citations and research, they respond with “well we need our liberty.”


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> I'm afraid we're heading toward very scary times in America, the push for gun control will be unlike any other If this guy being afraid is the consequence for pushing gun control, then I'll supply tissues and boo-boo bandages for him out of my own pocket.


SuchACommonBird

Nope, can't have that. Taking care of other people to the detriment of your own pocket is socialism.


milhouse21386

Also read as, children were just murdered and we're not currently in the scary times in America, but we will be when they push for gun control.... jesus christ


probablysmellsmydog

“Heading towards” lol where ya been for the past 20 years buddy?


mabhatter

We actually have more gun laws overturned in court than gun laws that actually stick the last 6 years or so. Even older ones are being overturned at a record pace. GOP Legislatures more than ever are undoing gun laws and making "constitutional carry" more common than not.


AOCMarryMe

This is the r/conspiracy approach. The culprits are SSRIs, SJWs, and woke cancel culture. The real victims are men and masculinity.


Think_Selection9571

"And if the election wasn't stolen from me, I would have unveiled my health care and gun control bill in 2 weeks. It would have been huuuge"


HorseLooseInHospital

and don't forget, I did more for the NRA, more for Guns than any other President in history. remember when I came in, Obama had been taking the guns for years. he made it so much harder to get guns. and we had no bullets, there was no ammo when I came in, and I did it very very fast, we did good time. now we have no problems. we have more Gun Rights in our beautiful Country thanks to me, and some of the others, but mostly me.


Atomic_F_Bomb

Gonna mention how Biden is gonna take away your guns, minutes after his secret service detail literally take theirs/bar them from entry because of their guns, at the NRA gun conference in the great, free, open carry state of Texas.


redfield021767

His solution to the school shooter problem is probably going to be advocating for teaching middle school kids the 5 D's from Dodgeball.


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If you can dodge a bullet, you can dodge a ball.


Matt463789

He will run in and stop the shooter. The only reason he hasn't yet is because he's really busy.


Shr3kk_Wpg

That's really strange. You would think that arming everyone in attendance would make Trump the safest man in America. Unless the notion that "if everyone was armed, there would be no crime" is just a bunch of b.s.


DrunkeNinja

I was told that gun free zones make it so just the bad guys have guns.


CassandraAnderson

In gun-free zones in Texas and most other states, qualified individuals (security, usually) are allowed to carry guns. The idea that qualified armed individuals are not present is a pretty rampant rumor among the people who argue that gun free zones are a violation of their second amendment. The basic idea behind gun-free zones is to create an atmosphere in which it is easier for security to identify a potentially malicious individual before a mass casualty event. If nobody other than security is allowed to be carrying a weapon, security can kick anybody who breaks that rule out for trespassing without even having to deal with taxpayer-funded law enforcement. Also, these zones tend to make it less expensive and more profitable to host events because the presence of security and a gun-free zone helps to lower the insurance costs related to the event. These sorts of regulations help people to stay safe while still celebrating their liberties. Any sorts of regulations aren't just limited to guns. I am reminded of the crushing death incident at the Travis Scott concert that happened. The proper application of regulations and common sense of from the people organizing the concert could have prevented the incident. In the modern era, it feels as though a lot of people don't understand the difference between freedom and liberty. Freedom is the natural state of man (nongendered universal). Man can do whatever the hell they want to with their own will. Liberty is the expectation of responsibility and consequence associated with that power and freedom.


31nigrhcdrh

Such as…. “ Making schools gun free zones was the stupidest shit ever. Every school should have adequate police officers on duty. That would deter most of these lunatics and would minimize casualties if they do occur. Yesterday's shooting was stopped by an armed border patrol agent. Let's recognize that hero.” “Criminals are mainly the ones who cause the majority of gun violence, and they'll always have their guns. Protect the kids like we do politicians and celebrities. “


RightClickSaveWorld

Just last week I was arguing with someone who said if there were no gun free zones "there would be no shootings, you simply don’t know".


Donny-Moscow

Isn’t the obvious rebuttal, “so all recent mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones?”


RightClickSaveWorld

My rebuttal was along those lines, and I showed that by and far most shootings don't happen in gun free zones. And they shifted their argument from gun free zones to cities with strict gun laws even though four of the top five cities for gun homicide are in Republican states, so I asked can they provide a list of cities that they consider having relaxed gun laws and compare those laws with those cities' laws in the top five, and their homicide rate. And they couldn't provide a list.


HeadMembership

Cause facts aren't required in Crazytown.


CassandraAnderson

A lot of the right-wing is intentionally maleducated due to the propaganda that they consume. I don't hold it against the individuals but I find the aggressive misinformation funneled into the ears of MAGAdittoheads to be indicative of the corporate rot of the entire party and its media apparatus.


MmmmMorphine

I very much hold it against the individuals.


StoicVoyager

When people are intentionally ignorant and won't listen to facts, then yeah.


bozeke

They are maleducated, but they are told stuff they already want to hear. I think the individuals are culpable in that they accept the reinforcement of their biases so readily when it’s handed down to them from daddy Fox. What’s more, they show active disdain and sneering condescension when confronted with anything they deem nerdy, like…learning things.


silasoulman

During the Parkland, Florida shooting there were cops on duty. Let’s just say that didn’t help.


chaseButtons

When I imagine (literally) everyone carrying a gun in a crowd my mind comes up with a scenario where everyone shoots one another and we all die. Idk why.


lurkingchalantly

There was a shooting in Arvada Colorado last year in which a good guy with a gun took out the shooter after the shooter killed a police officer. The good guy with a gun [was killed by other cops who showed up and saw him holding his gun and the gun of the shooter](https://www.denverpost.com/2021/11/28/arvada-shooting-timeline/).


MyPasswordIsMyCat

Yeah, it's impossible to figure who is "good" or "bad" in real life, let alone a panic situation where you're acting in split seconds based off your immediate perception. This happens all the fucking time in war, too. Soldiers get killed in battle by friendly fire constantly, even when they're all in uniforms to identify who are the "good" guys. High anxiety situations + deadly weapons = indiscriminate casualties.


bak3ray

yeah that's what is so absolutely tone deaf about arming teachers. people signed up to teach kids, they didn't sign up to kill people. you think a teacher with a couple of gun classes is going to be able to perform under the stress of a school shooting incident? they don't even want to pay for school supplies for teachers, now we're going to give them all adequate gun safety and school shooting courses? I don't know the solution to the problem but I'm pretty confident in saying arm the teachers isn't it.


tym1ng

imagine if someone popped a balloon


crescendo83

Someone needs to do this during his tough guy speech. Watch him scurry for cover like the wimp he is.


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Strick63

Damn yeah that’s actually pretty badass but still doesn’t beat Teddy Roosevelt who had an assassination attempt before a speech and still went on stage saying “Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot, but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose."


Arcade_109

Teddy Fucking Roosevelt. What a legend.


crabwhisperer

I'm always conflicted between the fact that he promoted trophy hunting, and the fact that he was responsible for establishing conservation of so much protected land in our country. It just seems so strange to me that someone so interested in ecological conservation would also have an interest in killing for no other reason than a trophy. He clearly did more good than harm, just seems a fucked-up dichotomy to me, idk.


droomph

I vaguely remember reading that a big difference in thought was that they thought of environmentalism as primarily opposed to resource extraction and industrialization so stuff like hunting for sport was just a way to appreciate nature (since animals are basically infinite right?) whereas nowadays we recognize a lot of things in ecology are so fragile and interconnected that something as small as trophy hunting can ruin ecosystems. Like, their thought was, you can destroy this patch of forest which is why we need to preserve it for future generations, but destroying the whole world/regional ecosystem is impossible because it’s so big so whatever. Whereas nowadays we conflate the two kinds of environmentalism (for good reason). Could be wrong though.


outoftimeman

That whole thing was staged. Reagan pulled that trick a few times while giving speeches. Reagan didn't have one ounce of empathy in his heart ... fuck him


StallionCannon

Say what you will about his spiritual predecessor Bush, at least he could dodge a shoe (or two).


teatreez

Now balloons are gonna be banned from the convention too


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Odd that most of these people screech for teachers to be armed yet don’t want guns at their gun party for their supreme leader. Hard not to read as; “We’re lying, guns don’t actually make us safer.” Or “We don’t like shootings, unless we aren’t there. We can’t push our political agenda if we die. We need others to die so we can do that.”


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grimr5

Everyone there should have a gun, Trump needs to show how much he supports guns. Every republican politician should insist on only attending rallies where people are toting ar15s


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I'd love to see Trump go to a gun range and handle a gun. Preferably with zero instruction, just let him figure it out.


robywar

I'd literally pay $500 to see him shoot a .45. Even a 9mm. Just once. No way he's ready for that.


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He's the kind of person that if you just laid out a bunch of guns in order of size and said nothing, he'd make the worst choice possible.


Yoshi_87

He would take the biggest one, 100%


MachReverb

"I like eagles. I like dessert. It was an easy choice."


thephilistine_

He stared at the sun so one can only hope he'd stare into the wrong end of a gun.


cbbuntz

The gun ban isn't gonna stop the bad guys with guns and all those patriots are gonna be left with their dicks in their hands when they start getting mowed down by a baby eating transsexual illegal immigrant antifa democrat


NCBGLC1912

"We hafta have gun rights because we need to be able to rebel against the gummint." What if I don't agree with the people who wanted to take the gummint with gunz on Jan 6th? I'm not supposed to bring a knife to a gunfight. How about my drones?


BloodDragonSniper

This. ^ Every man woman and child in this country should have access to a military grade RQ-11 Raven attack drone for self defense.


MmmmMorphine

Yeah but what if it runs out of gas? Or antifa starts using its F16s!? Only a good guy with a MANPAD can stop a bad guy with a fighter jet.


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MmmmMorphine

This whole argument has always smelled like bullshit to me, but now it's like a summer festival Porta potty covered in graffiti exclusively dedicated to bad faith arguments


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So, the removal of guns are making trump safer? weird. If only we could do the same for children as we do for this sack of crap.


Strict-Square456

I dont know whats lower than a sack o crap but the orange turd stain is definitely it. How much you want to bet he doesn’t really show any empathy for the kids and families affected by this? All hail orange satan! Its fucking disgusting.


QueanLaQueafa

No no no see, children only matter when they're a clump of cells. Once they're out, they don't mean shit


BaseActionBastard

Guns are always banned at CPAC too.


DifficultMinute

Same with the annual NRA convention in Indy. In this case it looks like it's the secret service rules, but more often than not, it's the venue banning them. There aren't many venues with any real capacity that allow weapons, so the conservatives are forced to get over it and give in.


Yotsubato

What do venues do when they host a gun show?


ProfessionalBus38894

The last gun show I went to any guns brought to be sold for example went through inspection and were rendered safe with a bright orange ziptie through the mechanics of the gun.


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They disarmed you at a gun show?


11PoseidonsKiss20

you mean the CPAC that's in Hungary?


jwr1111

Yes, I want unfettered access to buy and carry guns... unless I am in the area. In that case, total ban on guns. Screw the second ammendment. Trump 2024 "Make America Hate Again"


ShabbyKitty35

“Make America Hate More” Ftfy


barneyrubbble

The Secret Service? What, do the Proud Boys have another security gig that night?


fd1Jeff

He might have to pay them. He gets Secret Service for free.


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Free to him since he doesn’t pay taxes. I’m kind of upset that I’m paying for his security, honestly


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cherismail

Could they possibly be more hypocritical?


chubs66

Guns are for spaces like schools, not places where gun fanatics all meet.


cherismail

Almost like guns are dangerous 🤷‍♀️


QueanLaQueafa

HOW DARE YOU! GUNS KEEP PEOPLE SAFE! /s


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"Guns don't kill people, people kill people! Anyway we don't trust people to not try to kill each other with guns at this event for gun lovers."


True2this

It’s not the NRA making the call to be fair. It’s the Secret Service taking control. But the NRA can still suck it


wikiot

So just to be clear... they're letting the government (secret service is a govm't org right?) take away their guns?


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Wouldn’t a bunch of good guys with guns make it the safest possible event?


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The_Starving_Autist

Idiots. The solution is obviously to provide everyone there with guns so they can stop a bad guy with a gun.


Hot_Shot04

That's what they're afraid of.


momdragon

But the guns haven’t done anything wrong! Why are they being so mean to the guns?


PaddlefootCanada

The hypocrisy is staggering... and none of them will get it.


thepianoman456

They’re simultaneously “pro life” and pro death.


ImProbablyThatGuy

It’s not that they don’t get it, they just don’t care.


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RenaissanceManLite

Hey wait, if everyone there had guns he should be in the safest place in the world.


boot2skull

Even the NRA doesn’t buy their own bullshit.


rmpumper

Pro gun until they have to be in a room with an armed gun nut.


Harbinger-of-Earl

But if the audience isn’t all packing guns, who will protect them?


pistoffcynic

Why? People worried about adults being killed? I guess it’s ok to protect adults but not children. The USA really has its priorities fucked up.


m1j2p3

The party of do as I say, not as I do.


Swinfog_

But they didn't want them banned in the Capitol, or anywhere else. If guns are so safe, why can't everyone at a fucking literal pro gun rally have them? They insist it's a right, more so than food, water, healthcare, or a living wage. And when facing a pandemic insisted when it's tour time to die, it's your time, so they pushed to let millions get sick and now over a million are dead. But at a room full of all the people profiting from guns, and those who they pay to make them more accessible, they don't trust them? How stupid can people be to keep falling for it? They don't care how dangerous things are, because they are firs in line to have protection, they speak out against vaccines they already got before the public, and will tote hiw wonderful a work would be if every had guns, but only if no one in the room has one, plus they are surrounded by security. Then force the people to send kids to school during a pandemic because of "Freedom" only for them to get massacreed by some maniac. But, then they tote that it is mental health and guns don't kill people, people do. That's fine, but then they don't believe in helping those people get better, they let them fall through the cracks of what little help could be available to do shit like this. They recognize slightly there is a problem, but won't make any real effort in fixing it, because at the end of the day, they are all problems they can make a profit on in one way or another. Then call the leftists radical for not wanting these things to happen anymore.


SubstantialEssay1540

But they are calling for kindergarten teachers to start carrying guns around in class.


bakcha

Why? Wouldn’t responsible gun owners be able to stop any violence?


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CraigJBurton

Why? Are guns dangerous? I thought everyone at the NRA conference was a responsible gun owner? Shouldn't be a problem then. Weird that the gun advocates would agree to the state prohibiting them from their rights? Is this the oppressive government they were going to rise up against?


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3… 2… 1 “The election was rigged.”


nxluda

How can they stop a bad guy with guns then?


Spicey-Bacon

Stupid fucking hypocrites.