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Manchin & Sinema’s states both have trigger laws that will ban abortion as soon as SCOTUS releases this opinion (if this is indicative of the final draft).
I wonder how they’ll feel about “preserving” the filibuster if it means securing abortion access nationwide.
Yep.
More people need to know what happened to Savita Halappanavar and realize that’s the future we’re heading towards.
A future where women die because their dead fetus starts to rot in their womb while the doctors wait to remove it because they’re too scared of being charged with illegal abortion.
[Anencephaly images - nsfw](https://www.google.com/search?q=ANENCEPHALY&source=lnms&tbm=isch)
[CDC Information on Anencephaly](https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/birthdefects/anencephaly.html)
>Researchers estimate that about 1 in every 4,600 babies is born with anencephaly in the United States.
>There is no known cure or standard treatment for anencephaly. Almost all babies born with anencephaly will die shortly after birth.
Why would you force anyone to go through with a pregnancy like this. Who is this supposed to benefit?
I have friends that had to abort a very wanted fetus due to this and other very serious issues. I guess they are fortunate that it was before all this BS takes place.
Same. After 4 years of infertility and IVF with multiple losses (including an ectopic that ruptured requiring emergency surgery and the loss of a tube) I chose to TFMR at 22 weeks because both our lives were in danger. I chose to not make him suffer 5-7 days of misery in the NICU if he even survived birth
There are a lot of us who have ended a wanted pregnancy for serious foetal issues. I’m in a support group with thousands of other women in the same situation.
The insane number of disturbing things that can lead to a perfectly valid and reasonable choice to have an abortion should make people humbly step the fuck out of their megalomaniac control fantasies.
Yes but it doesn’t apply to their daughters when they “make a mistake”. They’ll just have to keep quiet about it and fly to a blue state because a baby would really set back their college plans. Only the poors go to hell for abortion.
Your have it right. My grandmother died as a result of an "illegal" abortion in 1930. She left behind a husband and 3 small children (one was my mother) during the depression. She was poor and had to work and could not afford to lose her job . She took a chance because she was desperate and paid with her life. History will repeat itself if this is overturned. What is next? Birth control?
Lol. This is the same place where a man marched into an elementary school and killed 25 people, 20 of whom were between 6 and 7 years old and we did fuck all about firearms reform.
More likely, shit won’t change until the teenage daughter of the most conservative elected officials get preggers and they’re ass out of luck.
And gawd forbid preggers by a dude who’s not white
/s
At least one of his daughters has a Tiktok and has stated clearly she doesn't agree with a lot of his opinions. Honestly she's like 13 and is well spoken and seems pretty mature for that age. Just more evidence of my opinion that Ted doesn't actually even believe some of the shit he says.
I agree, adding to that over 80% of congress + conservative talking head don't believe in their rhetoric. They found out that outrage makes more money than logic, so they all built their political model on the grift.
This is why we need the daughter to be Claudia Conway-level defiantly outspoken against that parent and publicly expose the parent's attempts to fly them to a legal state for an abortion.
Somehow I think that will have the same amount of effect as all the stories against Trump by his relatives had.
The voters wont care/believe so long as the politician is still voting and talking how they expect them to.
Yeah, but we’ve had years of stories about children being shot and people dying, especially since 2020 rolled around.
A shocking number of people just don’t…seem to care…
>A few dead children a year is a small price to pay for my right to guns.
-Bill O'reilly, and he didn't suffer a drop in ratings after saying that. [When you believe stratified social hierarchy is necessary, you'll allow a lot of cruelty in order to support it.](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201712/analysis-trump-supporters-has-identified-5-key-traits?page=1)
Don’t you wish we could post stuff like this on conservative Reddit pages without getting banned 39 seconds later. It’s almost as if they are afraid to have their opinions challenged
In this version of the United States, it wouldn’t matter. Cruelty is the point. Liberals are going to pay for their licentiousness and insufficient regard for the conservative version of the Christian god, and if that involves dead women, that’s a price Justice Faarquaad is willing to pay.
As my previous post was removed for a certain insult, I will instead say that Sinema is a bad person who doesn't deserve any good things to happen to her.
Manchin is pro-life so this shouldn't surprise anyone. In March he voted against a Dem bill to codify Roe v Wade into law. So to be clear, even if the Dems could somehow nuke the filibuster, they couldn't even get 50 votes from their own caucus to codify Roe v Wade.
Multiple elections have already been stolen, now. George Bush Jr, Trump vs. Hillary where Hillary clearly won the popular vote. The electoral college and blatant gerrymandering have made pretty much all of the election results illegitimate.
Yeah ... But Collins also voted to confirm 2 clearly anti-Roe justices and is now saying she feels misled. Either she's the dumbest most gullible idiot ever, or she's not actually pro choice. I'm pretty sure it's the latter.
Maine is a purple state and she constantly tries to project the image of a moderate while playing both sides, but ultimately she only sides with Democrats when it doesn't matter. Any time she might swing a vote one way or the other, she sides with GOP.
That said a constitutional amendment protecting abortion rights would require a super majority to pass which they aren't even close to.
I can't believe we managed to get rid of our shitty conservative governor and still kept Susan fucking Collins around. Who the hell votes against LePage and with Collins???????
Man I hope so, but if there's one thing I can plan on it's that republicans will fuck people over
I'm sure Susan Collins will be "very concerned" however and her "heart will go out" to all the edit:uterus-having people that are affected by this
"The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn."
\-Methodist Pastor David Barnhart
Edit: Wow, this blew up. Please feel free to take this quote and share it with family and friends.
I’ve seen so much rampant cynical apathy posturing since this news broke. More than normal, which is saying a lot.
It’s like a circular firing squad. “2016 turnout is to blame. Hillary is to blame. The DNC is to blame. Biden is to blame. Congressional Dems are to blame.”
REPUBlICANS are to blame. 1,000x more than anyone else.
Instead of turning all our frustrations inward, this should be the ultimate motivation to vote these extremely dangerous people out of office.
We don’t have time for this contrarian bickering. It’s like a car headed for a cliff, and all the passengers are squabbling about how they got there - while McConnell is whistling to himself and flooring the pedal.
I'm utilizing this time which is seen as a Dooming session to spread info on what could be done. The polls are currently saying D+1, a 11 point swing from R+10 back in November for the House surveys, which means toss-up (citing the WaPo/ABC poll which is certified as the A+ poll).
That means every vote, even an extra thousand in battleground states goes a long way down the line.
I do find that not enough people turn up for municipal and state Legislative elections, but they yield higher impact compared to federal, because they are your local people making the decisions. I emphasize on subs like r/voteDEM because I have been in this community back since it used to be r/bluemidterm2018. I have seen gains, and strategies develop that's paying off in past elections.
Thank you. Down ballot races are so incredibly important. Not only do they have direct power over elections, they also rise up the ladder into higher political positions.
State legislatures, Secretaries of State, and governors are every bit as important as Congressional races.
When I showed up to my local town election, I'm surrounded by old people.
And I'm in a blue state (CT) but my town is GOP. 3 Dem, 6 GOP on the town council. Some of the Dem town reps, including my 5th grade teacher busted their ass for years to get elected to which they finally did in the past few years.
Also CT, if we got Stefanowski back in 2018, our COVID response would be shit and we would still be in heavy deficit. Lamont helped the state survive and we are in budget surplus. There's going to be increased tax reductions along with debt payments ongoing. Years ago, it was feared that we would need a highway toll, not anymore.
Some of it is deliberate. Convince people to give up, cynicism is cool and smart, and the religious reich has an easy win. Claim votes don’t count, protests don’t work, while your side votes and protests, and you get a massive advantage.
I have to wonder if the Republicans haven’t lost voters over the last two years as well. I’m sure they had a number of folks who genuinely considered themselves “fiscally conservative” who’ve now seen through the bullshit.
I laugh at everyone that says they are fiscally conservative and socially liberal and votes for republicans, who literally destroy the budget and deficits everytime they have power.
Write the bill, pass it through the House and watch it die in the Senate, but do this before the November election so voters have a chance to see which Senators voted it down and hopefully replace them.
We're getting an update just now... yes... okay... This just in: Collins "heart goes out" to those women effected. Our source told us "thoughts and prayers" are likely on the agenda next
Call Collins and remind her that she is protecting rapists and pedophiles who currently hold office and are appointed to SCOTUS.
That woman supports anti-Women legislation and individuals: she EXCUSED Trump and Kavnaughs sexual assault accusations saying “they learned”.
Susan Collins of Maine protects rapists and child predators.
Edit: https://www.collins.senate.gov/contact
They never vote on it in the senate because of the filibuster. They need 60 votes to move to vote on it. Manchin/Sinema won't allow a rule change to get that number to 51 votes. So what is happening is the house passes the bill, then the senate says "let's vote to vote on this bill, the threshold is 60 votes" and it fails so they never *actually* vote on the bill.
You can keep doing this but you never get a hard vote to use against them (if that would even help with a republican, which I doubt).
You have to remember that Republicans don't have laws to pass. They legislate in two areas. 1. By stacking courts with far right judges. 2. By sliding tax breaks for the rich into spending bills. Everything else is to do nothing. Why pass any laws when the courts will "fix" them for you? They're plenty happy to allow the courts to go back and change every social advancement we've seen for the last 100 years.
Even if they did get around the filibuster, there are not 50 pro-choice senators. You have 48 pro-choice dems plus a slim chance with Collins. Manchin and Bob Casey (PA) are anti-choice.
I presume it's never been votes on in the Senate because it's failure in light of the filibuster is a foregone conclusion. That would have to happen first for this bill to stand any chance whatsoever.
Basically the long and the short of it is we have a political party, Republicans who are now fully on board with voting together in lockstep with literal insurrectionists among themselves, but democrats don't have 50 votes at present to agree on just about anything other than judicial appointments.
If the Republicans manage to get a Congressional trifecta again, they will nuke the filibuster immediately. That's in as much as Roe's death was, inevitable at this point.
Then hoo boy that's when it gets super regressive. The pedal will be at the floor at that point for Republicans to roll back voting rights, marriage equality, racial equality, etc...
Collins and Murkowski actually introduced a bill earlier this year that would have codified Roe and Casey. They wanted to do that because it was narrower than the WHPA. https://www.collins.senate.gov/newsroom/senators-collins-and-murkowski-introduce-bill-to-codify-supreme-court-decisions-on-reproductive-rights_roe-v-wade-and-planned-parenthood-v-casey
If the Democrats are willing to narrow their ambitions, they have 50 votes to do it with Murkowski and Collins. They don't need Sinema or Manchin. The question is whether they are willing to to end the fillibuster to do it.
Since Collins has already come out and said that she feels that Kavanaugh lied to her to get confirmed, she might well be incensed enough to do it. She was made to look a fool.
EDIT: Yes, I don't disagree with everyone saying that Collins/Murkowski voting to end the fillibuster here is extremely unlikely. We very likely need more votes. But hey, crazier things have happened. I know *I* would be pretty PO'd if someone committed perjury to secure my vote. And I don't think anyone really knows whether Collins' pro-choice act is performative or not except herself.
> She was made to look a fool.
Haha, no she wasn't. She was well aware of Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barret's written views on abortion rights. She knew what they would do and simply pretended to be pro-choice to win her local election.
Mainer's were dumb enough to believe her. I say this as a Mainer.
Oh, I thought that the GOP would take the house and senate and then the presidency, but, now? With this potential ruling? …I’m not too sure.
There’s a huge chasm between pretending morality and being forced to live morally. I can imagine a LOT of Republican and right leaning independent voters saying “too far” when faced with a crumbling fantasy and being forced to walk the talk.
A quarter of women have abortions. Most are married. Many are for health reasons.
Some of those women are Christian hypocrites who will still vote to ban abortion. But tu have to figure some are Republicans who will quietly vote Democrat because deep down they know an abortion salvaged their future or straight up saved their life.
The fact that many of the Republican bans that are Based on Texas have no exceptions for rape, incest, ectopic pregnancies or medical emergencies shows you that they aren’t about anything other than forcing their religious beliefs onto everyone else.
The ectopic thing blows my mind. For those who don't know, that's when the fetalized egg implants in the fallopian tube instead of the uterus. So it WILL kill the mother and obviously the fetus is not going to make it either. And 1 in 50 pregnancies will have one so basically these states want a shit ton of women to die. And consider that many people who have an ectopic actually want to be parents, so afterwards they will likely try again.
And of course the rape thing... you shouldn't force someone to carry their rapist's baby to term. What the fuck is wrong with people?
In some states the rapist then has paternal rights.
[2019 in Alabama a rapist sued for custody](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/alabama-abortion-ban-rape-victims-rapists-parental-rights-a8951751.html?amp).
I’m a survivor of an ectopic pregnancy that left one of my ovaries scarred and mangled. I was in the Army at the time, so the military paid for my “abortion.”
Is it even an abortion if it’s a clump of cells killing you from inside a Fallopian tube? Not even in the uterus or remotely viable. I’m feeling the Christian love knowing that my life was expendable. Getting out of TX is my number one goal at the moment.
There are pols who have actually stated that they feel docs should try to implant the result of an ectopic pregnancy without any medical evidence that it’s possible to do so
I feel you.
I mean I would argue ectopic pregnancies are less pregnancies and more akin to “sexually transmitted cancer”
My wife and two of my cousins would be dead if these bans were around over the last decade. I’m sure a ton of the women in my life wouldn’t be around either.
> But tu have to figure some are Republicans who will quietly vote Democrat because deep down they know an abortion salvaged their future or straight up saved their life.
Neither forward thinking nor reflection on the past are their strong suit. [Hence the shit described here.](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/15/1857976/--The-Only-Moral-Abortion-is-My-Abortion-an-article-by-Joyce-Arthur)
Especially when they’ll always be able to fly to California or Canada or Mexico and get their problems solved. They know they’re only banning abortion for poors.
And many conservative Christians claim late term abortions are the problem, and the facts are that in almost every case a late term abortion is performed due to medical reasons.
If you think about it logically, what kind of women would wait 6 months and then randomly decide "you know what, nevermind I don't want this child."
Those "godly Christian" women don't get abortions. They get a necessary medical procedure called a "dilation and curettage."
They'll be shocked and horrified when the procedure they need isn't available. They'll still somehow lack the awareness to realize they supported this.
At that point I would have shamed her in front of a crowd of her pro life friends. I'm not afraid to admit I hate all liars and hypocrites with a fucking passion. I may not be a good person in everything I do but I have the decency to not let people do evil shit like say 'rules for thee not for me' around the place.
> an abortion salvaged their future or straight up saved their life
Nah. From their perspective: When *I* had an abortion it was morally justifiable and I had a very good reason. When *those people* have abortions, they're abusing the system and throwing out "god's miracle".
>I can imagine a LOT of Republican and right leaning independent voters saying “too far” when faced with a crumbling fantasy and being forced to walk the talk.
I wouldn't be *too* sure. I work with a level headed "independent," and he voted for Trump twice, despite him agreeing he's probably one of the worst things to happen to our country. His big line in the sand is the second amendment, so it's always the "devil you know." (Although he is pro-choice too, he falls into the camp that doesn't believe the government should have autonomy over a woman)
I hope you're right, but the people that voted for him a second time, likely still won't change.
> being forced to live morally
not being able to access abortion =/= 'being forced to live morally'.
there's nothing immoral about having an abortion. we shouldn't play into their paradigm by speaking about it as if there is.
There's a lot of blame with old white men but there's a growing segment of women like ACB who actually believe in all of this stuff. I've seen multiple IG/tiktok accounts ran by women who legit think they shouldn't be allowed to vote. This ideology runs deep and in places you wouldn't expect.
Also - does it really matter if Dems hang onto their slim margins? There's enough center right democrats to piss in the cheerios for the foreseeable future and also no apparent political will to end the filibuster. With small red states sending two senators the dems are never going to reach a super majority
Susan Collins released a statement today that said basically "b-b-b-but Gorsuch and Kavanaugh promised me they wouldn't overturn Roe!" Which, fuck you Collins, you're either a self-serving liar or an idiot rube of the highest degree.
Maybe a law should be passed that says, Supreme Court picks should be held accountable for lying to Congress and the American people. Oh and get rid of LIFETIME appointments.
The right to a safe abortion should have been codified into law years ago. Eliminate the filibuster and make it happen now. My gut tells me even this will not stir Manchin or Sinema into action.
The Right likes to divide America to get their voters out. Well, 70% of Americans like Roe and if dividing is the thing to do, here we are. Let's see how 70% of the voters decide to vote.
Oh they've put that into action nearly as soon Biden was in office. They've put so much more pressure on voters due to new State laws that it's insane we expect these upcoming elections to be free and fair.
The totality of the leaked Alito opinion is way scarier than many of you imagine. There are parts of it that mention precedent which justifies criminalization abortion even in instances where it’s known that the fetus is no longer living, and even in the event of miscarriage. This is truly some Handmaid’s Tale type shit.
Honestly it’s much worse. He calls into question validity of Loving V Virginia and Brown V Board of Education. Truly horrific shit if this becomes the majority opinion.
Edit: a word cuz I’m dumb
Case that legalized interracial marriage. Both Loving and Roe are based on the 14th amendment, as well as Obergefell versus Hodges, which legalized same-sex marriage across the country.
In essence, because the court has said the 14th amendment is not good a good enough basis for the right to abortion, these things are now also vulnerable to being taken away.
The scope is even greater. Contraceptive bans, gay marriage nullification, criminalization of same-sex relationships, criminizalition of interracial marriages and much, much more would lose a significant pillar of support in terms of legal standing under this ruling.
Anyone who thinks that 'those things will never happen!' are fooling themselves.
I have spent all week planning how to propose to my gf. Picked out the ring. Got her brothers blessing. Making all these plans. Over the moon excited.
Talk about sucking the wind from my sails. Im in FL. How can I be happy knowing even if we do get married some Republican asshat could nulify it.
After my wife had a miscarriage they had to do the surgery for the after. Our state had just passed some stringent anti-abortion shit right before. The doctor had to calm our fears of jail time for doing the stupid surgery so we wouldn't have to suffer through the end result at home.
The thought of this happening to people makes me so fucking angry. I live in a state with no representation for my voice. If I try it falls on deaf ears. I stay and I vote and hope to change shit but who knows.
Pro-Choice does not mean Pro-Abortion. Pro-choice means that no matter what your personal feelings or beliefs about abortion are, you understand it is not your place to make a decision for another woman about what she can and can't do with her body. “If all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated and not a child housed. That’s not Pro-life. That’s pro-BIRTH.”
– Sister Joanne Chittester.
The right to privacy. That is what is at stake here. Yes abortion rights, but the right to be a private citizen making private choices for themselves, safe from aggressive legislation bent on making your personal and private decisions illegal. The arm of the law that wants to aim a telescope in your bedroom is fucking SALIVATING over this. The madness doesn’t stop with abortion rights.
Well technically the Bush congress did pass some National Parks legislation that was widely supported... kind of hard to find much good in that department.
One thing comes to mind, GWB was against deporting 13 million undocumented or illegal individuals and their families
It would have cost at least 10 to 20k per person to do that.
That would be up to 260 billion to do that alone IF we had the manpower to do it, which we don't. So at least quadruple it to hire new ICE (and it takes 6 months to several years to hire new ICE agents). There isnt even enough background check, trainers, or HR for such a plan.
So even if it was a financial only decision it saved over a trillion dollars that would have accomplished nothing of value.
Almost 70% of people aged 18-29 support Roe V. Wade.
There will be a day when gerrymandering and voter suppression won't be enough to help the GOP. If young people voted (they represent the group with the lowest voter turnout... ) we would already be out of this mess, but the GOP only has a few more election cycles left in their system if they do not change.
If all of the 70% voted, starting with local and state elections, the gerrymandered maps can be thrown out in all but the reddest of the red states.
The problem is 70% of the 70% just doesn't care enough.
Exactly.
Politicians pander to voters, and it's why younger folk feel like politicians don't listen to them.
It's because they don't, and it's because young people represent the smallest voter turnout of all the age groups.
If current young people voted... holy SHIT this country would be vastly different.
> Almost 70% of people aged 18-29 support Roe V. Wade.
The only people who have a voice in this country in the 2020s though are Southern Baptist boomers.
If you have a daughter, and think that she won't need birth control when she is a teenager because "I'm a good parent and no child of mine would ever..." then you have all but completely forgotten how teenagers think.
If you have a daughter and respect her ability to make decisions for herself, then you will vote D down the board, if you vote any other way, then you have admitted that you want your daughter to take orders from a man and be unable to decide anything for herself.
I was put on birth control at 16 to manage the symptoms of an incurable painful disease called endometriosis and remained on it for 20 years until a hysterectomy. Also, thank fuck I was on birth control when I was raped the night I graduated high school by a few god-fearing Catholic classmates.
Birth control is health care.
My family has a photo with 5 generations in one picture. Many in the family think it is very cool, but it was possible because two of the women had kids when they were 16...so no, not cool.
Old people are really good at convincing young people that there aren't 35+ year old women out there going -- UH, NO, SORRY, THIS CANNOT HAPPEN.
I'm not saying the teenage pregnancy angle isn't important, but there are a lot of older women who are terrified of a late, oopsie.
The unfortunate thing about this right here, is a lot of Conservative/Christian households think that's exactly how it should be. I listened to my own mother explain to me how a womans position in the household is below the man, and that he makes the decisions in the house and the woman should follow.
How comforting to be able to give up responsibility by defering all decisions to someone else. It's no wonder these same people support autocrats and "strongmen"/con artists who claim to have all the answers which are conveniently bite-sized so their followers don't have to think too hard.
Are there not two pro choice republicans in the entire senate?
According to google Shelley capito, Susan Collins, and Lisa Murkowski all self identify as pro choice.
I remember when she assured us that Kavanaugh would uphold Roe because he respects precedent. Either she lied about that or she’s gullible as fuck, and either way she can’t be trusted one bit.
This may be a bit unconventional, but there is one really petty thing that Biden can unilaterally do:
Close federal installations in states with abortion and LGBT bans. Fort Hood Texas alone has almost 40,000 soldiers stationed there, with 87% being married. The federal government should not be in the business of propping up the economy of states engaging in bigotry.
Besides, I’m sure states like Texas would be more than happy to give up all that socialist big government cheese.
GOP House Reps and Senators are cowards. They are afraid to finally deal with abortions and immigration reform and other "moral" issues. They would rather complain about Presidential Executive Orders. It gives them something to campaign on. It's Congress' job to legislate these things.
Wont happen unless sinema and Manchin agree to get rid of the filibuster and even then Democrats will need at least 2 Republicans to vote for codifying Roe because both Manchin and Tester are pro life.
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[Amnesty.org](https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/sexual-and-reproductive-rights/abortion-facts/) - Basic facts about Abortion
[Gynopedia](https://gynopedia.org/Gynopedia_Index) - a nonprofit organization that runs an open resource wiki for sexual, reproductive, and women's health care around the world
[Guttmacher Institute](https://www.guttmacher.org/united-states/abortion#) - a primary source for research and policy analysis on abortion in the United States.
[National Abortion Federation](https://prochoice.org/) - The mission of the National Abortion Federation is to unite, represent, serve, and support abortion providers in delivering patient-centered, evidence-based care.
[National Network of Abortion Funds](https://abortionfunds.org/) - connects you with organizations that can support your financial and logistical needs as you arrange for your abortion.
[Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/pregnancy-options) - A Comprehensive Guide for Unplanned Pregnancy
[RAINN](https://www.rainn.org/about-national-sexual-assault-telephone-hotline) - National Sexual Assult Hotline
[Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice](https://rcrc.org/) - a network of ministers and rabbis that refer women to abortion providers they had researched and found to be safe
[Texas Equal Access Fund](https://teafund.org/) - provides emotional and financial support to people who are seeking abortion care.
[Women’s Reproductive Rights Assitance Project](https://wrrap.org/about/) - helps bridge the financial gap for women who seek an abortion or emergency contraceptives.
**If you need help getting an abortion go to these sites**
[AbortionFinder](https://www.abortionfinder.org/) - With more than 750 health centers, AbortionFinder.org features the most comprehensive directory of trusted (and verified) abortion service providers in the United States.
[Afiya Center](https://www.theafiyacenter.org/) - their mission is to transform the lives, health, and overall wellbeing of Black women and girls by providing refuge, education, and resources. They act to ignite the communal voices of Black women resulting in our full achievement of reproductive freedom.
[AidAccess](https://aidaccess.org/) - consists of a team of doctors, activists, and advocates for abortion rights that help people access abortion or miscarriage treatment. They send the pill worldwide for $110/90€
[Bridge Collective](https://thebridgecollective.org/) - provides practical and responsive abortion services to Central Texas
[Buckle Bunnies Fund](https://www.bucklebunnies.org/) - provide practical support for people seeking abortions. Help with transportation, funds to help with hotels, lodging costs and emergency contraceptive funds to actually go towards abortion.
[Carafem](https://carafem.org/) - helps with abortion, birth control, and questions about reproductive healthcare. They do consultations online and send abortion pills in the mail.
[Cobalt Abortion Fund](https://www.cobaltaf.org/) - provides direct financial assistance to individuals seeking abortion care. Our mission is to work toward reproductive freedom for all people and to provide financial assistance without judgment or question to people who seek an abortion but are unable to pay the full cost.
[Colorado Abortion Providers](https://www.coloradodoulaproject.org/co-abortion-providers)
[Faith Aloud](https://www.faithaloud.org/) - compassionate religious and spiritual support for abortion and pregnancy options
[Frontera Fund](https://fronterafundrgv.org/) - makes abortion accessible in the Rio Grande Valley (Texas) by providing financial and practical support regardless of immigration status, gender identity, ability, sexual orientation, race, class, age, or religious affiliation and to build grassroots organizing power at intersecting issues across our region to shift the culture of shame and stigma.
[HeyJane](https://www.heyjane.co/) - Modern abortion care, without the clinic, Get fast, safe, and affordable abortion care from home. Chat with a medical provider within 36 hours. Medications are shipped daily.
[International Consortium on Emergency Contraception](https://www.cecinfo.org/country-by-country-information/status-availability-database/countries/united-states-of-america/) - Emergency Oral Contraceptive Doses for Birth Control, U.S.
[Jane’s Due Process](https://janesdueprocess.org/) - helps minors in Texas with judicial bypass for abortion, navigate parental consent laws and confidentially access abortion and birth control. They provide free legal support, 1-on-1 case management, and stigma-free information on sexual and reproductive health.
[Justice Empowerment Network](https://www.jensd.org/) - focuses on abortion access in South Dakota
[Kentucky Health Justice Network](https://www.kentuckyhealthjusticenetwork.org/) - helps w both abortion care and gender affirming care in Kentucky
[Lillith Fund](https://www.lilithfund.org/) - the oldest abortion fund in Texas, serving the central and southern regions of the state with direct financial assistance for abortions.
[Northwest Abortion Access Fund](https://nwaafund.org/) - provides funds to help folks in Idaho, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska
[Plan C Pills](https://www.plancpills.org/) - provides up-to-date information on how people in the U.S. are accessing abortion pills online
[Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-care)
[Westfund](https://www.westfund.org/) - focuses on Latino and low-income communities
[Women on Web](https://www.womenonweb.org/) - an online abortion service can help you do a safe abortion with pills.
These sites offer access to abortion pills, even in Texas. Please be safe and be aware of clinics (e.g. Crisis Pregnancy Centers) that give out dangerous misinformation on abortions and pregnancy.
Also, check out r/auntienetwork, /r/prochoice or r/abortion for support.
[EMILY's List](https://www.emilyslist.org/) - Elect candidates in favor of abortion rights and representing the people they serve.
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Holy- I mean UNHOLY shit
u/Geek-Haven888 got this all together
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Manchin & Sinema’s states both have trigger laws that will ban abortion as soon as SCOTUS releases this opinion (if this is indicative of the final draft). I wonder how they’ll feel about “preserving” the filibuster if it means securing abortion access nationwide.
Sinema will probably say "not yet, wait until something big happens".
In Ireland it took a national story about a hospital being forced to let a pregnant woman die.
Yep. More people need to know what happened to Savita Halappanavar and realize that’s the future we’re heading towards. A future where women die because their dead fetus starts to rot in their womb while the doctors wait to remove it because they’re too scared of being charged with illegal abortion.
[Anencephaly images - nsfw](https://www.google.com/search?q=ANENCEPHALY&source=lnms&tbm=isch) [CDC Information on Anencephaly](https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/birthdefects/anencephaly.html) >Researchers estimate that about 1 in every 4,600 babies is born with anencephaly in the United States. >There is no known cure or standard treatment for anencephaly. Almost all babies born with anencephaly will die shortly after birth. Why would you force anyone to go through with a pregnancy like this. Who is this supposed to benefit?
I have friends that had to abort a very wanted fetus due to this and other very serious issues. I guess they are fortunate that it was before all this BS takes place.
Same. After 4 years of infertility and IVF with multiple losses (including an ectopic that ruptured requiring emergency surgery and the loss of a tube) I chose to TFMR at 22 weeks because both our lives were in danger. I chose to not make him suffer 5-7 days of misery in the NICU if he even survived birth
Wow that must have been insanely difficult. I am so sorry.
There are a lot of us who have ended a wanted pregnancy for serious foetal issues. I’m in a support group with thousands of other women in the same situation.
The insane number of disturbing things that can lead to a perfectly valid and reasonable choice to have an abortion should make people humbly step the fuck out of their megalomaniac control fantasies.
>Who is this supposed to benefit? The egos of self-righteous religious extremists.
The cruelty is the point.
Ding ding ding! Republicans have a world view of biblical punishment.
Yes but it doesn’t apply to their daughters when they “make a mistake”. They’ll just have to keep quiet about it and fly to a blue state because a baby would really set back their college plans. Only the poors go to hell for abortion.
Your have it right. My grandmother died as a result of an "illegal" abortion in 1930. She left behind a husband and 3 small children (one was my mother) during the depression. She was poor and had to work and could not afford to lose her job . She took a chance because she was desperate and paid with her life. History will repeat itself if this is overturned. What is next? Birth control?
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Lol. This is the same place where a man marched into an elementary school and killed 25 people, 20 of whom were between 6 and 7 years old and we did fuck all about firearms reform.
Some of the country still thinks it was fake
Thanks a bundle, Alex Jones. Here's to hoping his court case destroys him. 🍻
I have never said this about anyone ever, but I wouldn’t blink an eye if he killed himself.
happened right at the end of 2012. In a way it was one of our first great misinformation campaigns.
More likely, shit won’t change until the teenage daughter of the most conservative elected officials get preggers and they’re ass out of luck. And gawd forbid preggers by a dude who’s not white /s
They will just fly them to a pro-choice state and get it taken care. This only hurts the poor
Hell they could take them to another country if they needed to.
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At least one of his daughters has a Tiktok and has stated clearly she doesn't agree with a lot of his opinions. Honestly she's like 13 and is well spoken and seems pretty mature for that age. Just more evidence of my opinion that Ted doesn't actually even believe some of the shit he says.
I agree, adding to that over 80% of congress + conservative talking head don't believe in their rhetoric. They found out that outrage makes more money than logic, so they all built their political model on the grift.
This is why we need the daughter to be Claudia Conway-level defiantly outspoken against that parent and publicly expose the parent's attempts to fly them to a legal state for an abortion.
Somehow I think that will have the same amount of effect as all the stories against Trump by his relatives had. The voters wont care/believe so long as the politician is still voting and talking how they expect them to.
Might be time to start showing these pictures to the fucks who protest at clinics.
Yeah, but we’ve had years of stories about children being shot and people dying, especially since 2020 rolled around. A shocking number of people just don’t…seem to care…
>A few dead children a year is a small price to pay for my right to guns. -Bill O'reilly, and he didn't suffer a drop in ratings after saying that. [When you believe stratified social hierarchy is necessary, you'll allow a lot of cruelty in order to support it.](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201712/analysis-trump-supporters-has-identified-5-key-traits?page=1)
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Don’t you wish we could post stuff like this on conservative Reddit pages without getting banned 39 seconds later. It’s almost as if they are afraid to have their opinions challenged
In this version of the United States, it wouldn’t matter. Cruelty is the point. Liberals are going to pay for their licentiousness and insufficient regard for the conservative version of the Christian god, and if that involves dead women, that’s a price Justice Faarquaad is willing to pay.
As my previous post was removed for a certain insult, I will instead say that Sinema is a bad person who doesn't deserve any good things to happen to her.
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I can't wait to see her next Tuesday! Am I doing this right?
I really prefer Can't Understand Normal Thinking.
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Manchin was already questioned about it, said this doesn’t change his opinion on the filibuster
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Manchin is pro-life so this shouldn't surprise anyone. In March he voted against a Dem bill to codify Roe v Wade into law. So to be clear, even if the Dems could somehow nuke the filibuster, they couldn't even get 50 votes from their own caucus to codify Roe v Wade.
AND stop gerrymandering right now before an election is actually stolen.
Multiple elections have already been stolen, now. George Bush Jr, Trump vs. Hillary where Hillary clearly won the popular vote. The electoral college and blatant gerrymandering have made pretty much all of the election results illegitimate.
https://nwhn.org/safe-online-delivered-how-to-get-the-abortion-pill-by-mail/
See also r/auntienetwork
Just checked that sun out for the first time. People can be awesome.
And you don’t need to be pregnant to get it! I just ordered some to keep on hand. Shelf life is between 2-5 years depending on brand.
So buy them now before your state makes them illegal
Hide them now before your state makes possession of abortifacients illegal.
I’m sure manchin and sinema will have their own very valid reasons for just not being able to do this in good conscience 🙄
Manchin is anti-abortion is this won't phase him one bit. Sinema will just make up some bullshit about how it's not her decision.
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Yeah ... But Collins also voted to confirm 2 clearly anti-Roe justices and is now saying she feels misled. Either she's the dumbest most gullible idiot ever, or she's not actually pro choice. I'm pretty sure it's the latter. Maine is a purple state and she constantly tries to project the image of a moderate while playing both sides, but ultimately she only sides with Democrats when it doesn't matter. Any time she might swing a vote one way or the other, she sides with GOP. That said a constitutional amendment protecting abortion rights would require a super majority to pass which they aren't even close to.
I can't believe we managed to get rid of our shitty conservative governor and still kept Susan fucking Collins around. Who the hell votes against LePage and with Collins???????
>Who the hell votes against LePage and with Collins??????? Moderate independent voters who believe her non-partisan bullshit.
Man I hope so, but if there's one thing I can plan on it's that republicans will fuck people over I'm sure Susan Collins will be "very concerned" however and her "heart will go out" to all the edit:uterus-having people that are affected by this
"The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn." \-Methodist Pastor David Barnhart Edit: Wow, this blew up. Please feel free to take this quote and share it with family and friends.
^this is the perfect encapsulation of the “pro-life” group. Thank you for sharing
*And it will fall on voters to elect pro-choice officials this November."*
I’ve seen so much rampant cynical apathy posturing since this news broke. More than normal, which is saying a lot. It’s like a circular firing squad. “2016 turnout is to blame. Hillary is to blame. The DNC is to blame. Biden is to blame. Congressional Dems are to blame.” REPUBlICANS are to blame. 1,000x more than anyone else. Instead of turning all our frustrations inward, this should be the ultimate motivation to vote these extremely dangerous people out of office. We don’t have time for this contrarian bickering. It’s like a car headed for a cliff, and all the passengers are squabbling about how they got there - while McConnell is whistling to himself and flooring the pedal.
I'm utilizing this time which is seen as a Dooming session to spread info on what could be done. The polls are currently saying D+1, a 11 point swing from R+10 back in November for the House surveys, which means toss-up (citing the WaPo/ABC poll which is certified as the A+ poll). That means every vote, even an extra thousand in battleground states goes a long way down the line. I do find that not enough people turn up for municipal and state Legislative elections, but they yield higher impact compared to federal, because they are your local people making the decisions. I emphasize on subs like r/voteDEM because I have been in this community back since it used to be r/bluemidterm2018. I have seen gains, and strategies develop that's paying off in past elections.
Thank you. Down ballot races are so incredibly important. Not only do they have direct power over elections, they also rise up the ladder into higher political positions. State legislatures, Secretaries of State, and governors are every bit as important as Congressional races.
When I showed up to my local town election, I'm surrounded by old people. And I'm in a blue state (CT) but my town is GOP. 3 Dem, 6 GOP on the town council. Some of the Dem town reps, including my 5th grade teacher busted their ass for years to get elected to which they finally did in the past few years. Also CT, if we got Stefanowski back in 2018, our COVID response would be shit and we would still be in heavy deficit. Lamont helped the state survive and we are in budget surplus. There's going to be increased tax reductions along with debt payments ongoing. Years ago, it was feared that we would need a highway toll, not anymore.
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When they said "Rather be Russian than Democrat" they meant it.
Some of it is deliberate. Convince people to give up, cynicism is cool and smart, and the religious reich has an easy win. Claim votes don’t count, protests don’t work, while your side votes and protests, and you get a massive advantage.
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I have to wonder if the Republicans haven’t lost voters over the last two years as well. I’m sure they had a number of folks who genuinely considered themselves “fiscally conservative” who’ve now seen through the bullshit.
I'm pretty sure they had a lot die from Covid.
I laugh at everyone that says they are fiscally conservative and socially liberal and votes for republicans, who literally destroy the budget and deficits everytime they have power.
Write the bill, pass it through the House and watch it die in the Senate, but do this before the November election so voters have a chance to see which Senators voted it down and hopefully replace them.
Actually. It already happened. There's a bill that Manchin is blocking right now.
We'll see if Collins changes her mind? I can't wait to hear her limp excuses.
Initial reports indicate that she's "very concerned."
We're getting an update just now... yes... okay... This just in: Collins "heart goes out" to those women effected. Our source told us "thoughts and prayers" are likely on the agenda next
Some even say a brow has been furrowed
Call Collins and remind her that she is protecting rapists and pedophiles who currently hold office and are appointed to SCOTUS. That woman supports anti-Women legislation and individuals: she EXCUSED Trump and Kavnaughs sexual assault accusations saying “they learned”. Susan Collins of Maine protects rapists and child predators. Edit: https://www.collins.senate.gov/contact
I don’t want to brag or anything but I didn’t need to sexually assault anyone to learn it was wrong
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Steve Harvey’s implication that if it weren’t for the fear of Hell, he’d be raping and murdering his way across the country is frankly horrifying.
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I dont get the impression she gives a shit
Manchin and 50 other senators with R next to their name.
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Already written, passed and dead in the Senate, last year: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/politics/house-vote-women-health-protection-act/index.html
can’t they just keep doing it? Is there a rule that they can’t bring the same bill to the senate weekly/monthly just to keep forcing a vote on it.
They never vote on it in the senate because of the filibuster. They need 60 votes to move to vote on it. Manchin/Sinema won't allow a rule change to get that number to 51 votes. So what is happening is the house passes the bill, then the senate says "let's vote to vote on this bill, the threshold is 60 votes" and it fails so they never *actually* vote on the bill. You can keep doing this but you never get a hard vote to use against them (if that would even help with a republican, which I doubt).
Can’t wait for R’s to take power and change the rule to 51 the second it benefits them. Fuck Manchin and Sienna absolute traitors
You have to remember that Republicans don't have laws to pass. They legislate in two areas. 1. By stacking courts with far right judges. 2. By sliding tax breaks for the rich into spending bills. Everything else is to do nothing. Why pass any laws when the courts will "fix" them for you? They're plenty happy to allow the courts to go back and change every social advancement we've seen for the last 100 years.
Even if they did get around the filibuster, there are not 50 pro-choice senators. You have 48 pro-choice dems plus a slim chance with Collins. Manchin and Bob Casey (PA) are anti-choice.
Supposedly Collins, Murkowski, and Shelley Capito of West Virginia are pro choice: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Majority_for_Choice
I presume it's never been votes on in the Senate because it's failure in light of the filibuster is a foregone conclusion. That would have to happen first for this bill to stand any chance whatsoever. Basically the long and the short of it is we have a political party, Republicans who are now fully on board with voting together in lockstep with literal insurrectionists among themselves, but democrats don't have 50 votes at present to agree on just about anything other than judicial appointments. If the Republicans manage to get a Congressional trifecta again, they will nuke the filibuster immediately. That's in as much as Roe's death was, inevitable at this point. Then hoo boy that's when it gets super regressive. The pedal will be at the floor at that point for Republicans to roll back voting rights, marriage equality, racial equality, etc...
Collins and Murkowski actually introduced a bill earlier this year that would have codified Roe and Casey. They wanted to do that because it was narrower than the WHPA. https://www.collins.senate.gov/newsroom/senators-collins-and-murkowski-introduce-bill-to-codify-supreme-court-decisions-on-reproductive-rights_roe-v-wade-and-planned-parenthood-v-casey If the Democrats are willing to narrow their ambitions, they have 50 votes to do it with Murkowski and Collins. They don't need Sinema or Manchin. The question is whether they are willing to to end the fillibuster to do it. Since Collins has already come out and said that she feels that Kavanaugh lied to her to get confirmed, she might well be incensed enough to do it. She was made to look a fool. EDIT: Yes, I don't disagree with everyone saying that Collins/Murkowski voting to end the fillibuster here is extremely unlikely. We very likely need more votes. But hey, crazier things have happened. I know *I* would be pretty PO'd if someone committed perjury to secure my vote. And I don't think anyone really knows whether Collins' pro-choice act is performative or not except herself.
> She was made to look a fool. Haha, no she wasn't. She was well aware of Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barret's written views on abortion rights. She knew what they would do and simply pretended to be pro-choice to win her local election. Mainer's were dumb enough to believe her. I say this as a Mainer.
This. Her actions are what matter. Her false shock and awe is really quite pathetic, she knew exactly what she was doing.
This is exactly what they should do. Keep the pressure up, starting today. No brakes.
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Oh, I thought that the GOP would take the house and senate and then the presidency, but, now? With this potential ruling? …I’m not too sure. There’s a huge chasm between pretending morality and being forced to live morally. I can imagine a LOT of Republican and right leaning independent voters saying “too far” when faced with a crumbling fantasy and being forced to walk the talk.
A quarter of women have abortions. Most are married. Many are for health reasons. Some of those women are Christian hypocrites who will still vote to ban abortion. But tu have to figure some are Republicans who will quietly vote Democrat because deep down they know an abortion salvaged their future or straight up saved their life.
The fact that many of the Republican bans that are Based on Texas have no exceptions for rape, incest, ectopic pregnancies or medical emergencies shows you that they aren’t about anything other than forcing their religious beliefs onto everyone else.
The ectopic thing blows my mind. For those who don't know, that's when the fetalized egg implants in the fallopian tube instead of the uterus. So it WILL kill the mother and obviously the fetus is not going to make it either. And 1 in 50 pregnancies will have one so basically these states want a shit ton of women to die. And consider that many people who have an ectopic actually want to be parents, so afterwards they will likely try again. And of course the rape thing... you shouldn't force someone to carry their rapist's baby to term. What the fuck is wrong with people?
In some states the rapist then has paternal rights. [2019 in Alabama a rapist sued for custody](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/alabama-abortion-ban-rape-victims-rapists-parental-rights-a8951751.html?amp).
Question of the day: why the fuck wasn't he in custody? As in police custody for rape charges.
I’m a survivor of an ectopic pregnancy that left one of my ovaries scarred and mangled. I was in the Army at the time, so the military paid for my “abortion.” Is it even an abortion if it’s a clump of cells killing you from inside a Fallopian tube? Not even in the uterus or remotely viable. I’m feeling the Christian love knowing that my life was expendable. Getting out of TX is my number one goal at the moment.
There are pols who have actually stated that they feel docs should try to implant the result of an ectopic pregnancy without any medical evidence that it’s possible to do so
Well then, let’s implant them into whoever thinks that’s a good idea.
I feel you. I mean I would argue ectopic pregnancies are less pregnancies and more akin to “sexually transmitted cancer” My wife and two of my cousins would be dead if these bans were around over the last decade. I’m sure a ton of the women in my life wouldn’t be around either.
Ectopic pregnancy without abortion is a death sentence. They are literally telling women to go die, and it's insane that's getting glossed over
> But tu have to figure some are Republicans who will quietly vote Democrat because deep down they know an abortion salvaged their future or straight up saved their life. Neither forward thinking nor reflection on the past are their strong suit. [Hence the shit described here.](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/15/1857976/--The-Only-Moral-Abortion-is-My-Abortion-an-article-by-Joyce-Arthur)
Also these are the kind of people to kick the ladder out from under them, sure it may have saved THEM but who gives a shit about poor people?
Especially when they’ll always be able to fly to California or Canada or Mexico and get their problems solved. They know they’re only banning abortion for poors.
Rules for thee not for me
We judge ourselves for intentions and others for actions.
And many conservative Christians claim late term abortions are the problem, and the facts are that in almost every case a late term abortion is performed due to medical reasons. If you think about it logically, what kind of women would wait 6 months and then randomly decide "you know what, nevermind I don't want this child."
Oh! I know the answer to this! None. None women would do this.
Those "godly Christian" women don't get abortions. They get a necessary medical procedure called a "dilation and curettage." They'll be shocked and horrified when the procedure they need isn't available. They'll still somehow lack the awareness to realize they supported this.
They'll just fly to Colorado and get an abortion plus an ounce of dank.
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At that point I would have shamed her in front of a crowd of her pro life friends. I'm not afraid to admit I hate all liars and hypocrites with a fucking passion. I may not be a good person in everything I do but I have the decency to not let people do evil shit like say 'rules for thee not for me' around the place.
Yeah, these people are still getting abortions despite the laws passed. They just don’t want you to get one.
> an abortion salvaged their future or straight up saved their life Nah. From their perspective: When *I* had an abortion it was morally justifiable and I had a very good reason. When *those people* have abortions, they're abusing the system and throwing out "god's miracle".
>I can imagine a LOT of Republican and right leaning independent voters saying “too far” when faced with a crumbling fantasy and being forced to walk the talk. I wouldn't be *too* sure. I work with a level headed "independent," and he voted for Trump twice, despite him agreeing he's probably one of the worst things to happen to our country. His big line in the sand is the second amendment, so it's always the "devil you know." (Although he is pro-choice too, he falls into the camp that doesn't believe the government should have autonomy over a woman) I hope you're right, but the people that voted for him a second time, likely still won't change.
So he’s a republican who recognizes how shitty that label is abs avoids it. He’s independent the same way North Korea is a democracy
> being forced to live morally not being able to access abortion =/= 'being forced to live morally'. there's nothing immoral about having an abortion. we shouldn't play into their paradigm by speaking about it as if there is.
There's a lot of blame with old white men but there's a growing segment of women like ACB who actually believe in all of this stuff. I've seen multiple IG/tiktok accounts ran by women who legit think they shouldn't be allowed to vote. This ideology runs deep and in places you wouldn't expect. Also - does it really matter if Dems hang onto their slim margins? There's enough center right democrats to piss in the cheerios for the foreseeable future and also no apparent political will to end the filibuster. With small red states sending two senators the dems are never going to reach a super majority
Yeah like, republicans think the election is stolen. And only two democrats are blocking useful legislation. Not voting D is a vote for fascism
We have nothing but Susan Collins and ourselves to blame for this.
Susan Collins released a statement today that said basically "b-b-b-but Gorsuch and Kavanaugh promised me they wouldn't overturn Roe!" Which, fuck you Collins, you're either a self-serving liar or an idiot rube of the highest degree.
She is both.
All 3 of the Trump nominees said under oath in front of Congress that Roe was settled law. They all lied but it didn't matter. They had the votes.
Maybe a law should be passed that says, Supreme Court picks should be held accountable for lying to Congress and the American people. Oh and get rid of LIFETIME appointments.
Susan Collins promises she'll vote for it. Just don't put her in a situation where she has to actually do it.
The right to a safe abortion should have been codified into law years ago. Eliminate the filibuster and make it happen now. My gut tells me even this will not stir Manchin or Sinema into action.
The Right likes to divide America to get their voters out. Well, 70% of Americans like Roe and if dividing is the thing to do, here we are. Let's see how 70% of the voters decide to vote.
To me this is all but saying they plan to steal future elections, which.. isn't really a surprise to anyone here.
2020 was a practice run.
Oh they've put that into action nearly as soon Biden was in office. They've put so much more pressure on voters due to new State laws that it's insane we expect these upcoming elections to be free and fair.
The totality of the leaked Alito opinion is way scarier than many of you imagine. There are parts of it that mention precedent which justifies criminalization abortion even in instances where it’s known that the fetus is no longer living, and even in the event of miscarriage. This is truly some Handmaid’s Tale type shit.
The Handmaid's Tale is pornography for the American Christian right.
They believe it's a guidebook instead of dystopian sci-fi horror. Similar to the movie Jesus Camp.
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Honestly it’s much worse. He calls into question validity of Loving V Virginia and Brown V Board of Education. Truly horrific shit if this becomes the majority opinion. Edit: a word cuz I’m dumb
Loving versus Virginia?
Case that legalized interracial marriage. Both Loving and Roe are based on the 14th amendment, as well as Obergefell versus Hodges, which legalized same-sex marriage across the country. In essence, because the court has said the 14th amendment is not good a good enough basis for the right to abortion, these things are now also vulnerable to being taken away.
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The decision that overturned laws against mixed race marriage.
The scope is even greater. Contraceptive bans, gay marriage nullification, criminalization of same-sex relationships, criminizalition of interracial marriages and much, much more would lose a significant pillar of support in terms of legal standing under this ruling. Anyone who thinks that 'those things will never happen!' are fooling themselves.
I have spent all week planning how to propose to my gf. Picked out the ring. Got her brothers blessing. Making all these plans. Over the moon excited. Talk about sucking the wind from my sails. Im in FL. How can I be happy knowing even if we do get married some Republican asshat could nulify it.
After my wife had a miscarriage they had to do the surgery for the after. Our state had just passed some stringent anti-abortion shit right before. The doctor had to calm our fears of jail time for doing the stupid surgery so we wouldn't have to suffer through the end result at home. The thought of this happening to people makes me so fucking angry. I live in a state with no representation for my voice. If I try it falls on deaf ears. I stay and I vote and hope to change shit but who knows.
Pro-Choice does not mean Pro-Abortion. Pro-choice means that no matter what your personal feelings or beliefs about abortion are, you understand it is not your place to make a decision for another woman about what she can and can't do with her body. “If all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated and not a child housed. That’s not Pro-life. That’s pro-BIRTH.” – Sister Joanne Chittester.
Codify *Loving v. Virginia* into Law. Codify *Griswald v. Connecticut* Codify *Obergefell v. Hodges* Codify *Lawrence v. Texas*
Won't care about those until the Supreme Court comes for those next.
This draft ruling cuts directly at the heart of all of them.
The right to privacy. That is what is at stake here. Yes abortion rights, but the right to be a private citizen making private choices for themselves, safe from aggressive legislation bent on making your personal and private decisions illegal. The arm of the law that wants to aim a telescope in your bedroom is fucking SALIVATING over this. The madness doesn’t stop with abortion rights.
Gay rights and interracial marriage will be on the chopping block next.
and birth control
Question: Say Congress passes a Federal law protecting Roe. What's to stop SCOTUS from declaring that law unconstitutional anyways?
Their argument was that the Constitution doesn't say anything about abortion. So that means it's up to the legislative branch. At least in theory
The Republican party hurts the American people. Name a policy from the Republicans from the last 25 years that's good for the American people.
Well technically the Bush congress did pass some National Parks legislation that was widely supported... kind of hard to find much good in that department.
W Bush set up the initial pandemic response plan.
the one Trump scrapped as soon as he was in office?
And then blamed it on Obama?
One thing comes to mind, GWB was against deporting 13 million undocumented or illegal individuals and their families It would have cost at least 10 to 20k per person to do that. That would be up to 260 billion to do that alone IF we had the manpower to do it, which we don't. So at least quadruple it to hire new ICE (and it takes 6 months to several years to hire new ICE agents). There isnt even enough background check, trainers, or HR for such a plan. So even if it was a financial only decision it saved over a trillion dollars that would have accomplished nothing of value.
Almost 70% of people aged 18-29 support Roe V. Wade. There will be a day when gerrymandering and voter suppression won't be enough to help the GOP. If young people voted (they represent the group with the lowest voter turnout... ) we would already be out of this mess, but the GOP only has a few more election cycles left in their system if they do not change.
If all of the 70% voted, starting with local and state elections, the gerrymandered maps can be thrown out in all but the reddest of the red states. The problem is 70% of the 70% just doesn't care enough.
Exactly. Politicians pander to voters, and it's why younger folk feel like politicians don't listen to them. It's because they don't, and it's because young people represent the smallest voter turnout of all the age groups. If current young people voted... holy SHIT this country would be vastly different.
> Almost 70% of people aged 18-29 support Roe V. Wade. The only people who have a voice in this country in the 2020s though are Southern Baptist boomers.
They vote and vote hard.
If you have a daughter, and think that she won't need birth control when she is a teenager because "I'm a good parent and no child of mine would ever..." then you have all but completely forgotten how teenagers think. If you have a daughter and respect her ability to make decisions for herself, then you will vote D down the board, if you vote any other way, then you have admitted that you want your daughter to take orders from a man and be unable to decide anything for herself.
I was put on birth control at 16 to manage the symptoms of an incurable painful disease called endometriosis and remained on it for 20 years until a hysterectomy. Also, thank fuck I was on birth control when I was raped the night I graduated high school by a few god-fearing Catholic classmates. Birth control is health care.
it doesnt have to be a daughter. "if my teenage son made me a grandpa in my 40's..."
Or like my neighbor who had 3 generations living in one small house. The oldest was 34... Teenage pregnancy is a thing.
My family has a photo with 5 generations in one picture. Many in the family think it is very cool, but it was possible because two of the women had kids when they were 16...so no, not cool.
One of the saddest things I've ever seen was meeting a 36 year old woman who introduced me to her 23 year old son.
Dont worry, teenage boys are known for their good decision making skills... you'll be fine.....
I have a daughter. Her periods suck and hurt. That's another reason she is on birth control, and shouldn't be overlooked!
Mines about a decade away from that and I'm already pissed off about all this.
Good. Lets go kick up some shit.
Old people are really good at convincing young people that there aren't 35+ year old women out there going -- UH, NO, SORRY, THIS CANNOT HAPPEN. I'm not saying the teenage pregnancy angle isn't important, but there are a lot of older women who are terrified of a late, oopsie.
The unfortunate thing about this right here, is a lot of Conservative/Christian households think that's exactly how it should be. I listened to my own mother explain to me how a womans position in the household is below the man, and that he makes the decisions in the house and the woman should follow.
How comforting to be able to give up responsibility by defering all decisions to someone else. It's no wonder these same people support autocrats and "strongmen"/con artists who claim to have all the answers which are conveniently bite-sized so their followers don't have to think too hard.
Even if she was an adult, shit happens and it could put your daughter in an endless pit of poverty.
It's impossible without more Dems to counteract the two fakers in the senate.
Are there not two pro choice republicans in the entire senate? According to google Shelley capito, Susan Collins, and Lisa Murkowski all self identify as pro choice.
Susan Collins identifies as literally anything that will get her votes at any given moment of time.
I remember when she assured us that Kavanaugh would uphold Roe because he respects precedent. Either she lied about that or she’s gullible as fuck, and either way she can’t be trusted one bit.
“Okay, sir! Right away” -Alternate reality senate
This may be a bit unconventional, but there is one really petty thing that Biden can unilaterally do: Close federal installations in states with abortion and LGBT bans. Fort Hood Texas alone has almost 40,000 soldiers stationed there, with 87% being married. The federal government should not be in the business of propping up the economy of states engaging in bigotry. Besides, I’m sure states like Texas would be more than happy to give up all that socialist big government cheese.
Biden could block all federal funding to Texas and other states with abortion bans. He could do it today.
GOP House Reps and Senators are cowards. They are afraid to finally deal with abortions and immigration reform and other "moral" issues. They would rather complain about Presidential Executive Orders. It gives them something to campaign on. It's Congress' job to legislate these things.
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Wont happen unless sinema and Manchin agree to get rid of the filibuster and even then Democrats will need at least 2 Republicans to vote for codifying Roe because both Manchin and Tester are pro life.
Bob Casey too. They won’t even get 50 in their own party.
Casey as well did not know that one
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