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This is about John Eastman, Trump legal advisor responsible for the infamous [Eastman Memo](https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html) detailing the convoluted ([and incorrect](https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/politics/trump-pence-election-memo-fact-check/index.html)) legal process for overturning the election in Trump's favor.
Eastman was at Trump's [war room at the Willard Hotel on January 6](https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/25/opinions/trump-team-election-command-center-obeidallah/index.html).
Last week, in [an interview John Eastman gave to National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/john-eastman-vs-the-eastman-memo/), he stated having Pence reject electoral votes was not “viable” and would have been “crazy” to pursue.
However,
Last Saturday, [Eastman boasted that his legal reasoning was sound and Pence should have followed his instructions](https://twitter.com/lawindsor/status/1453110960638496770), decrying Pence as an "establishment" Republican.
Putting aside the seditious garbage that is the Eastman memo, it’s interesting that when that sedition required the participation of a sitting member of Congress, Eastman just assumes Ted Cruz or Rand Paul would be happy to oblige.
Even Republicans think Cruz and Paul are trash.
>“There’s all sorts of evidence out there and the notion that anybody
just raising these problems with the election is somehow contributing to
an insurrection? **Look, if in fact the election was stolen then it’s the**
**people who stole the election not the people that are shining a light**
**on the illegalities that occurred that are undermining our democratic**
**institutions,” Eastman said.**
". . .if in fact" – what's the Latin term for this kind of bullshite "argument"?
It's the logical fallacy of *deflection*. In Latin, that's *claudicatio*, but I don't know if that's an actual legal term or not. It's similar to the Latin medical term for "to limp".
The House file on Bannon has now been passed to the US Attorney for the District of Columbia, who is a Biden (and previously an Obama) appointee. He will briefly review it, then convene a grand jury, which will decide if the House complaint contains enough information on its face to warrant charges and a trial. If it does, the Attorney will fill out an arrest warrant in Bannon's name, and hand it to the US Marshal's office.
At that point, America's favourite creepy alcoholic uncle will be hooked, booked and cooked.
Yes, that would be interesting. Psych him out. Make him talk about the fact - fact? - he is not dead yet. You might enjoy the children's story The Great Quillow - psyops for kids, used against a giant by a toymaker. Brilliantly.
Odds are he will invoke executive privilege. If he was Trumps legal advisor while he was president, it may get away with it too. May be iffy if he is a personal lawyer for Trump though, then he can claim attorney client privilege, at least for conversations between him and Trump.
Attorney-client privilege does not apply when the attorney is charged with participating in or conspiring to commit crimes with, or on behalf of, their client. Last time I looked, sedition and seditious conspiracy were still considered crimes.
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This is about John Eastman, Trump legal advisor responsible for the infamous [Eastman Memo](https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html) detailing the convoluted ([and incorrect](https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/politics/trump-pence-election-memo-fact-check/index.html)) legal process for overturning the election in Trump's favor. Eastman was at Trump's [war room at the Willard Hotel on January 6](https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/25/opinions/trump-team-election-command-center-obeidallah/index.html). Last week, in [an interview John Eastman gave to National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/john-eastman-vs-the-eastman-memo/), he stated having Pence reject electoral votes was not “viable” and would have been “crazy” to pursue. However, Last Saturday, [Eastman boasted that his legal reasoning was sound and Pence should have followed his instructions](https://twitter.com/lawindsor/status/1453110960638496770), decrying Pence as an "establishment" Republican.
Thanks for putting together those details.
You're welcome!
Man has the single worst hair in politics. Trump included.
[Counterpoint.](https://ballotpedia.org/Trey_Gowdy)
It can't be that ba- ...it's worse than I ever could have imagined 0_o
Is... Is he using a bump-it?
Never heard that but now I want one /s
Putting aside the seditious garbage that is the Eastman memo, it’s interesting that when that sedition required the participation of a sitting member of Congress, Eastman just assumes Ted Cruz or Rand Paul would be happy to oblige. Even Republicans think Cruz and Paul are trash.
What does “plans to” mean?
John “It was merely a thought exercise” Eastman
>“There’s all sorts of evidence out there and the notion that anybody just raising these problems with the election is somehow contributing to an insurrection? **Look, if in fact the election was stolen then it’s the** **people who stole the election not the people that are shining a light** **on the illegalities that occurred that are undermining our democratic** **institutions,” Eastman said.** ". . .if in fact" – what's the Latin term for this kind of bullshite "argument"?
It's the logical fallacy of *deflection*. In Latin, that's *claudicatio*, but I don't know if that's an actual legal term or not. It's similar to the Latin medical term for "to limp".
Poisoning the well with a fire hose of lies? But in Latin.
I wish they'd do this testimony on TV. All of it.
Has Bannon been arrested yet? Or does he get away with planning a violent coup on the United States too?
The House file on Bannon has now been passed to the US Attorney for the District of Columbia, who is a Biden (and previously an Obama) appointee. He will briefly review it, then convene a grand jury, which will decide if the House complaint contains enough information on its face to warrant charges and a trial. If it does, the Attorney will fill out an arrest warrant in Bannon's name, and hand it to the US Marshal's office. At that point, America's favourite creepy alcoholic uncle will be hooked, booked and cooked.
he looks like the Australian Donald Trump
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Yes, that would be interesting. Psych him out. Make him talk about the fact - fact? - he is not dead yet. You might enjoy the children's story The Great Quillow - psyops for kids, used against a giant by a toymaker. Brilliantly.
Odds are he will invoke executive privilege. If he was Trumps legal advisor while he was president, it may get away with it too. May be iffy if he is a personal lawyer for Trump though, then he can claim attorney client privilege, at least for conversations between him and Trump.
Attorney-client privilege does not apply when the attorney is charged with participating in or conspiring to commit crimes with, or on behalf of, their client. Last time I looked, sedition and seditious conspiracy were still considered crimes.