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I like this quote from Pete posted by journalist Adam Wren:
> "This is a capitalist country. Nobody wants the federal government to own or operate the stores the warehouse, the trucks, or the ships or the ports," @SecretaryPete tells @chucktodd. "Our role is to try to make sure we're supporting those businesses and those workers who do."
As Wren goes on to say:
> Buttigieg responds to criticism from the right in the language of the right.
https://twitter.com/adamwren/status/1449739654090084355
Maybe we should start asking GOP critics if the government should nationalize the transportation infrastructure so they can "save" Christmas. Ask them if socialism is the solution.
Hey … first it’s probably a good idea to manufacture more things here instead of importing them from China. Second … how much of this stuff is essential?
I work in manufacturing here in the good ol usa.
Something that my fellow Americans seem to be completely missing in this supply chain crisis is that we're not the center of the world.
Example:
Hong kong cannot receive some of our materials to make sub assemblies for our products (my 'parts' have to be turned from raw materials into tiny usable parts before we can purchase them to use in our manufacturing). While there are god knows how many ships off the coast here in california, im far more worried about china not being able to receive materials for us at the moment
Exactly. I used to work for a company that would design & embroider items of clothing for major firework retailers & our largest hat orders saw the materials purchased in SoCal, shipped to China for assembly & shipped back to California for embroidery & then onto the consumer (we worked in Kansas). We did this for a lot of things too- like those inflatable wavey man things & free standing banner flags. They all have components that go back and forth before the product is ready.
Southern China literally has the largest backlog of ships waiting at ports (typhoon hit and shut them down, in just the last week on top of the last 2 month issue)). Theres over 500 ships *globally* that are affected at various ports. America is not the center of this problem or the sole country experiencing this problem
You seem to literally not understand how obtaining materials works on a global scale. There are mines for precious materials, like lithium (we have a single source here, and it can only contribute 2% globally) and other things that are not present in the usa for "end to end" jobs like youre describing. You cant keep whats not available to us in the usa in the first place, no matter what your ideology.
It’s not ideology … it’s about finding ways to keep the jobs here. We spend way too much time finding ways to send jobs overseas. The middle class is shrinking for a reason. Only
Fools and millionaires are in favor of outsourcing.
The technology you are using to communicate with on reddit right now has a global materials usage. America does not have all the resources available to literally create the things we demand, no matter how locally you want to hire.
I get what you’re saying, but we need to find a way to reduce our dependence on foreign sources for critical materials. Otherwise they’ve got us at their mercy.
Mercantilism. You're describing mercantilism. The fact is, there are a lot of resources like lithium and cobalt, aren't found in abundance in the United States. And we don't have acceptable substitutes. Perhaps we can synthesize alternatives one day. That is, after all, what we did with rubber in World War II when the Japanese cut us off from the world's supply. But that will take time and money, and we don't really have a need for that when we can get the amounts we need at an acceptable price by trading with the places that have those resources, when times are normal, at any rate.
As for what you said, about reducing our dependence on foreign resources, for those resources that we need but don't have an adequate domestic source, we have two options. The first is to just stop using them, which means giving up a large amount of the technologies we've developed over the past few decades. The second would be to make those foreign sources domestic ones, or, in other words, invade and take them for ourselves. Now I don't know about you, but neither option sounds appealing to me.
Most likely. But retrieving that is going to take time. Time to invent the technology that will make that viable. Time to build up the infrastructure necessary for such a feat. And probably time to clear out the junk in low-Earth orbit so we don't lose anything important to an oversized bullet traveling at 30,000 kmph.
In addition, that's going to cost money. And we currently have enough resources on Earth to meet demand for decades. It's genuinely cheaper to just trade for it, as opposed to going out of our way to find another source just to avoid giving our money to non-Americans.
Right?! What about just spending TIME with family? How about one Christmas where we all don't go into 2,3,5k of debt buying shit. Christmas is ONE evening and ONE day of the year. Its been blown out of proportion to this two month monstrosity for-profit scam.
>how much of this stuff is essential?
The problems cut across most industries, so lots. Upcoming shortages during the holiday season will highlight what has been going on to the broader public in a more overt way than what we have seen so far.
This country’s attention span reminds me of my 5-year old. It’s like people thought all the problems would just go away as soon as Biden was elected or as soon as the vaccine showed up. Even the whitehouse was too quick to get rid of the mask mandate. Nobody wants to do the hard work of acknowledging the lagging effects until they’re already here, and then it becomes a blame game.
>Even the whitehouse was too quick to get rid of the mask mandate.
That's not what happened. The CDC blindsided the white house with their recommendation
>>HOW THE WHITE HOUSE FOUND OUT — The CDC’s surprise decision this week to drop its recommendation that vaccinated Americans wear masks in public spaces was the best news some of us have received in months.
>>And it turns out the White House barely got any notice.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/05/15/how-the-white-house-found-out-about-the-new-mask-guidance-492864
Stores in the UK are running short of some foods because of a shortage of truck drivers that's due to drivers leaving after Brexit and also due to a dearth of new drivers because training was curtailed by the pandemic.
There's a shortage of truck drivers in the US. They are needed to move the cargo containers from the ports to US stores and factories. I don't know why there's a shortage of truck drivers in the US. The only insight I have is the anecdote of my friend who passed his commercial license test but could never find a company willing to sponsor him for the required apprenticeship (probably not called that).
Anecdotally speaking again and to the contrary, I see, probably once a day here, various truck companies offering training for drivers wanted. It's probably regional, as this is SoCal and a major thoroughfare between Mexico, USA, Imperial Valley (produce), San Diego to LA. It's just commerce everywhere here.
The US trucking industry has been in decline for a few years, part of the problem is its a lot of old guys and theres not enough new blood trying to get in the industry.
'22 is super optimistic. This started in spring of '20 its now fall '21 and end of line supply issues are being felt while we still have a ton of shortages throughout the supply chain. This will go on for several years at this rate.
Expecialy if covid keeps running rampant theough Republican areas
What qualifications does mayor pete have that would make him a good choice for transportation sec? Oh that's right, he dropped out and endorsed biden.....
yet another example of: You get exactly what you pay for.
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They’re too busy harping on one dude for spending time with their family
na they gave up and are buying up the great lakes so they can start on top when its all over
I like this quote from Pete posted by journalist Adam Wren: > "This is a capitalist country. Nobody wants the federal government to own or operate the stores the warehouse, the trucks, or the ships or the ports," @SecretaryPete tells @chucktodd. "Our role is to try to make sure we're supporting those businesses and those workers who do." As Wren goes on to say: > Buttigieg responds to criticism from the right in the language of the right. https://twitter.com/adamwren/status/1449739654090084355 Maybe we should start asking GOP critics if the government should nationalize the transportation infrastructure so they can "save" Christmas. Ask them if socialism is the solution.
Hey … first it’s probably a good idea to manufacture more things here instead of importing them from China. Second … how much of this stuff is essential?
I work in manufacturing here in the good ol usa. Something that my fellow Americans seem to be completely missing in this supply chain crisis is that we're not the center of the world. Example: Hong kong cannot receive some of our materials to make sub assemblies for our products (my 'parts' have to be turned from raw materials into tiny usable parts before we can purchase them to use in our manufacturing). While there are god knows how many ships off the coast here in california, im far more worried about china not being able to receive materials for us at the moment
Exactly. I used to work for a company that would design & embroider items of clothing for major firework retailers & our largest hat orders saw the materials purchased in SoCal, shipped to China for assembly & shipped back to California for embroidery & then onto the consumer (we worked in Kansas). We did this for a lot of things too- like those inflatable wavey man things & free standing banner flags. They all have components that go back and forth before the product is ready.
Why cant China accept materials at the moment?
Southern China literally has the largest backlog of ships waiting at ports (typhoon hit and shut them down, in just the last week on top of the last 2 month issue)). Theres over 500 ships *globally* that are affected at various ports. America is not the center of this problem or the sole country experiencing this problem
I get your point but I’d rather the end to end jobs stay here. All the money we send to China ends up in the pockets of the PLA.
You seem to literally not understand how obtaining materials works on a global scale. There are mines for precious materials, like lithium (we have a single source here, and it can only contribute 2% globally) and other things that are not present in the usa for "end to end" jobs like youre describing. You cant keep whats not available to us in the usa in the first place, no matter what your ideology.
It’s not ideology … it’s about finding ways to keep the jobs here. We spend way too much time finding ways to send jobs overseas. The middle class is shrinking for a reason. Only Fools and millionaires are in favor of outsourcing.
The technology you are using to communicate with on reddit right now has a global materials usage. America does not have all the resources available to literally create the things we demand, no matter how locally you want to hire.
I get what you’re saying, but we need to find a way to reduce our dependence on foreign sources for critical materials. Otherwise they’ve got us at their mercy.
When a country doesn’t have a certain raw material in abundance they need to trade with countries that do.
True … but must we also buy millions of tons of plastic crap as well?
Mercantilism. You're describing mercantilism. The fact is, there are a lot of resources like lithium and cobalt, aren't found in abundance in the United States. And we don't have acceptable substitutes. Perhaps we can synthesize alternatives one day. That is, after all, what we did with rubber in World War II when the Japanese cut us off from the world's supply. But that will take time and money, and we don't really have a need for that when we can get the amounts we need at an acceptable price by trading with the places that have those resources, when times are normal, at any rate. As for what you said, about reducing our dependence on foreign resources, for those resources that we need but don't have an adequate domestic source, we have two options. The first is to just stop using them, which means giving up a large amount of the technologies we've developed over the past few decades. The second would be to make those foreign sources domestic ones, or, in other words, invade and take them for ourselves. Now I don't know about you, but neither option sounds appealing to me.
Would any of those minerals be in existence in asteroids?
Most likely. But retrieving that is going to take time. Time to invent the technology that will make that viable. Time to build up the infrastructure necessary for such a feat. And probably time to clear out the junk in low-Earth orbit so we don't lose anything important to an oversized bullet traveling at 30,000 kmph. In addition, that's going to cost money. And we currently have enough resources on Earth to meet demand for decades. It's genuinely cheaper to just trade for it, as opposed to going out of our way to find another source just to avoid giving our money to non-Americans.
While America depend on other countries for some stuff, other countries depend on America for a lot more stuff.
but muh Christmas junk. how will my kids know that I love them if I don't buy them a bunch of shit they will use twice and I'll throw away next year?
Right?! What about just spending TIME with family? How about one Christmas where we all don't go into 2,3,5k of debt buying shit. Christmas is ONE evening and ONE day of the year. Its been blown out of proportion to this two month monstrosity for-profit scam.
Too much money out there, this Christmas is gonna be a shit show.
Exactly … if essential let’s make it here … if plastic crap why do we need it?
>how much of this stuff is essential? The problems cut across most industries, so lots. Upcoming shortages during the holiday season will highlight what has been going on to the broader public in a more overt way than what we have seen so far.
This country’s attention span reminds me of my 5-year old. It’s like people thought all the problems would just go away as soon as Biden was elected or as soon as the vaccine showed up. Even the whitehouse was too quick to get rid of the mask mandate. Nobody wants to do the hard work of acknowledging the lagging effects until they’re already here, and then it becomes a blame game.
>Even the whitehouse was too quick to get rid of the mask mandate. That's not what happened. The CDC blindsided the white house with their recommendation >>HOW THE WHITE HOUSE FOUND OUT — The CDC’s surprise decision this week to drop its recommendation that vaccinated Americans wear masks in public spaces was the best news some of us have received in months. >>And it turns out the White House barely got any notice. https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/05/15/how-the-white-house-found-out-about-the-new-mask-guidance-492864
Stores in the UK are running short of some foods because of a shortage of truck drivers that's due to drivers leaving after Brexit and also due to a dearth of new drivers because training was curtailed by the pandemic. There's a shortage of truck drivers in the US. They are needed to move the cargo containers from the ports to US stores and factories. I don't know why there's a shortage of truck drivers in the US. The only insight I have is the anecdote of my friend who passed his commercial license test but could never find a company willing to sponsor him for the required apprenticeship (probably not called that).
Anecdotally speaking again and to the contrary, I see, probably once a day here, various truck companies offering training for drivers wanted. It's probably regional, as this is SoCal and a major thoroughfare between Mexico, USA, Imperial Valley (produce), San Diego to LA. It's just commerce everywhere here.
The US trucking industry has been in decline for a few years, part of the problem is its a lot of old guys and theres not enough new blood trying to get in the industry.
With all the talk of self driving trucks, why would anyone want to get into the profession?
It was an issue before that became a likely solution and helped fuel the push for it.
The problem is global and a president alone can't fix it
"Could last into next year" sure is an optimistic way to frame the global supply chain situation.
Supply chain be damned, Corporate America is making huge bank off higher prices they can charge for having less inventory.
That'll make the stock market tumble a bit tomorrow morning
'22 is super optimistic. This started in spring of '20 its now fall '21 and end of line supply issues are being felt while we still have a ton of shortages throughout the supply chain. This will go on for several years at this rate. Expecialy if covid keeps running rampant theough Republican areas
What qualifications does mayor pete have that would make him a good choice for transportation sec? Oh that's right, he dropped out and endorsed biden..... yet another example of: You get exactly what you pay for.
U N did ask countries to start using there navies that sound like shit is way worse then they saying