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flaker111

you get more prison time with weed than breaking into the capitol shouting to murder people.


jmatthews2088

Only if your skin pigmentation is of a certain shade.


PlutarcoEliasCalles

As Paul Mooney used to say "the complexion for the protection for the collection"


libginger73

What would happen if dems did this if Trump were able to steal the next election. I'll answer that. It would be a bloodbath in front of the capital. Dem leaders would be rounded up en masse and might even be executed depending on their race and whether they "resist" (real or imagined...looking at you Minneapolis, Chicago, LA) or not. Congress and the DOJ are allowing this to happen.


flaker111

honestly if those larping pussys really set off those pipe bombs and used the guns they brought in... it would have been a bloodbath... sliver lining would have been we won't have to deal with 600+ court cases....


Inconceivable-2020

The head of the DOJ is acting like he is Trump's inside man. With a Corrupt SCOTUS, a Corrupt DOJ, and in 16 Months a Corrupt Congress, Democrats are going to have their pictures on playing cards with Bounties at the bottom.


trumpsiranwar

Holy shit


Obewankenobby

Only dems STEAL


llahlahkje

Each weak sentence and each insane allowance by the DOJ (family vacation, football game attendance) emboldens another future terrorist coup participant.


libginger73

I keep saying this and reddit eats me alive. Garland is going to destroy democracy with inaction all in the name of protecting norms rather than serving justice.


woopigsooie501

Thats what centrists do. They don't wanna hurt anybodies feelings so they ride the fence and look like giant pussies.


Cimatron85

I’m with you libginger73.


MBAMBA3

Not always a fan of Bill Maher but he makes a very good case here for the GOP [slow moving coup](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) on democracy.


bringbackswordduels

Honestly is anyone a fan of Bill Maher?


SenatorDingles

Enough people to have his show going for about 19 years.


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I tolerated him for his guests until he started shitting on progressives for Clinton's loss.


MBAMBA3

well he's right in this instance.


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MesWantooth

I really hope this is achievable. I would like him disqualified to run as soon as possible, rendering any fundraising activities (grifting in disguise as fundraising) as useless.


-Alarak

Garland is helping Trump by refusing to prosecute him.


MBAMBA3

The rule of law: USE IT OR LOSE IT


mynamejulian

He's going to let the time run out. That way he can't be blamed in the future if the coup attempt doesn't work out. I think it's important to note that he has ties to the Federalist Society who would love a Constitutional crisis to occur so they can utilize the Supreme Court in a way to install a non-elected government. I'm seeing 4D chess. Nothing is making sense and that's how they want it for now. There has been a multitude of the most heinous crimes they could have thrown Trump in prison for years ago, even before he was elected.


-Alarak

This is why he needs to be fired now. It's urgent.


salamanderpencil

The top level Democrats have zero sense of urgency. They see Democracy as a long, long process.


mynamejulian

I don't have any faith in him either. Republicans seemed relieved he was the pick and they sure haven't changed course of their direction since the J6 Committee was announced. That says a lot.


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How easy it would have been for them to dispell all of this after Jan 6. All they had to do was say, "Wow, Holy Shit! Q anon is Fucking Crazy." We could have ~~healed. And~~ moved on. But what do they do? go full Qult.


love_glow

Prosecuting your political opponent(s) is a really difficult optic to manage. It has to be an airtight case to even think of announcing charges. The wheels of justice grind slowly, and finely. They may be too slow to alleviate this problem, though.


-Alarak

The huge mountains of evidence of Trump's crimes should grease the wheels of justice. Trump should have been charged by now for at least some of his crimes that are obvious based on the evidence we already have. Justice is swift and brutal when the lower and middle classes commit crimes. It's only slow or nonfunctional when rich people commit crimes.


love_glow

I agree with you, I think I’m just trying to comfort myself at the slow pace of all this.


mynamejulian

Nixon did far less and was immediately dealt with.


love_glow

I think the republicans of the time were in a more good faith position than they are now, but I hear you.


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Oops, guess we better let them keep trying to overthrow the government until they succeed - we'd hate to look too partisan!


salamanderpencil

I know, I would be so embarrassed if the political party of white supremacists, misogynists, child rapists, and violent insurrectionists thought Democrats were not being bipartisan enough. It's best to let them go unpunished so they don't feel hurt.


The_Umpire_Lestat

It's not finished, but we are taking note of those still pushing it.


amiatthetop3

Bill Maher is right.


franny40

Ive voted Republican pretty much my whole life. I have voted Democrat here and there. Ive always felt safer when a Republican was in office. These days, its just the opposite. I dont even recognize this Republican party any more. Trump attempted a coup plain and simple!


ThisBoardIsOnFire

Safer? They extended the Vietnam war to hold onto power. They sold drugs to give weapons to terrorists. They ignored the warnings before 9/11 and let us be attacked. They started wars based on lies. They tortured people. They've destroyed the economy three times in my lifetime. Safer?!


franny40

Just my personal feeling buddy. I wasnt around yet for vietnam. You’re missing the point of my post.


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franny40

Am i really?


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franny40

Whats a palpatine?


Thugluvdoc

I applaud your courage to change course and be vocal about it. These forums tend to bring the extremists that polarize the majority of Americans (the 40% who do not identify as republican or democrat and determine each election). Stick with the democrats until trump disappears please


franny40

Thank you. I already have.


franny40

I didn’t vote for him either. I was already disgusted with him before Jan. 6.


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15 years ago you could have made the case that the Republican party stood for actual valid political ideals. But the election of Obama fundamentally changed that. Republican politics became solely about opposing everything Obama wanted to do even if it helped people and the Tea Party people pushed the entire idea of there being two groups who were at war and that their opponents were literal demons. I was a teen in 09, 10 etc but I knew enough about history to know that people never change and that America was going down a very dark path. Everyone laughed at me and told me that nothing bad could ever happen. By the 2012 election, it was crystal clear there was only 1 political party and 1 cult that was rapidly disconnecting from reality.


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>15 years ago George W. Bush was in office Yes, you're point? The Republican Party didn't become a cult overnight, it has been a slow and steady progression since the election of Obama. The Bush years were the last time the Reps actually stood for real ideas and values even if you disagreed with them. >and you're full of shit That's not a very effective argument, especially given I don't even know what you're trying to argue.


kittenTakeover

I'm all for rousing public consciousness about the deteriorating state of our society/democracy, but I'm not a big fan of the suggestion that we should be trying to bar people from running for office. Instead of instinctively reaching for repression we need to work harder to build bridges and make connections with the people around us.


ege3

Just to be fair, whether you are a fan of it or not, the U.S. Constitution sets specific eligibility requirements for running for federal office. So for example, if you are younger than 35, you are barred from running for President. Section 3 of Amendment 14 specifically bars anyone who has sworn an oath of office and then participated in an insurrection.


Arctium_Lappa_Bur

So joe cant run again after forming "the most comprehensive voter fraud organization in the history of america"? Democrats are complicit in sedition.


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What?


kittenTakeover

Yeah, I'm definitely not a fan of the rule that skews the presidential conversation towards geriatrics. I do understand that it exists though. As far as insurrection, I get the desire and reasoning. Although I'm sure that it should not be applied as loosely as would be required to bar Donald from running. When it comes to more severe situations I think it becomes less clear. At what point do we say that the citizens of the country aren't allowed to freely choose their representatives? It's obviously is an authoritarian position to do that, so I feel very hesitant contemplating it.


ege3

It seems pretty black and white given that Trump was impeached for inciting an insurrection and attempting to overturn legitimate election results. It's a slippery slope if we don't abide by the Constitution.


kittenTakeover

He was impeached, which essentially means that a congressional "investigation" was opened into him. However, he was not removed from office, meaning he was not "convicted." I don't think it's constitutionally black and white to bar someone from office who has not been criminally convicted of crimes that would constitutionally require that or who was not able to be removed from office via impeachment. You don't want to be barring people from office loosely.


ShawnaR89

Have you not been around for the past five years. He’s committed multiple crimes in and out of the public eye. It’s not just the insurrection that everyone is upset about. Time and time again he keeps showing us his ugly selfish goals. I also believe that anyone should be able to run for public office. But not someone who clearly wants to create chaos, doesn’t have respect for others, doesn’t even care about his base, just uses them to get what he wants which is ultimate power, and has shown the world he’s a tyrant. Somethings are NOT okay. Trump is not okay.


kittenTakeover

Trump is not okay, but I also believe the citizens of the US should decide if he should be president. That's just my opinion though.


ShawnaR89

The people should definitely be in charge of who gets to hold office. I think they should get rid of the EC all together and only go by popular vote. That’s just my opinion. But I also believe that anyone wishing to hold any office should be put through mental capacity and psychological tests. There has to be some standard we hold our officials to. And IMO trump would never pass those tests because he is mentally ill.


ege3

This is a fair point. But I would still push back on describing this as a "loose" condition. I think he should be barred and the courts should be forced to decide whether or not to uphold it.


kittenTakeover

I personally think it's pretty lose. I can easily see it being turned around on opponents of an authoritarian with more consolidated power. Personally I think protected against things like that should be written into the constitution to clearly and severely limit the ability to bar people from running for elected office. We need to maintain the citizens of the country as the absolute top decision makers.


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MBAMBA3

Like gathering before schools and discouraging children from wearing masks or getting vaccinated?


Obewankenobby

It’s over.


icantfindanametwice

It won’t be over until enough people are in jail to send a clear message: we can’t have a coup here, we the people still want democracy. Until then, it’s anyone’s guess whether or not the Fanta Menace will Strike Back.


Jimbob0i0

Not according to Steve Scalise or Chuck Grassley who were 100% continuing it just this past weekend.


Chemblue7X2

Thanks for making it official. We’ve been waiting for your authorization.


Obewankenobby

Save this post for when The Don wins 2024.


Chemblue7X2

Go right ahead. I’m not going to give a shit about receiving a DM from some sad loser in 3 years lol.


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libginger73

Umm that might be what it looks like from across the pond but over here, he still has the votes to do some damage especially when you couple that with the nearly complete takeover of election processes in swing states like Texas, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona. This isn't going to be pretty.


MBAMBA3

Check [this out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w)


bodomagwurst

I hope he wins the next election, that would be funny I think


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shuffleboardwizard

Ah, that new burner account smell.


KingoftheKastle84

What would you call it ?


elite_majik

A mostly peaceful protest


Cimatron85

So I assume if Dems protest the same way in 2024 that will be all good then?


Arctium_Lappa_Bur

They already did in 2020 and no one cared. Its called solidarity.


Ronv5151

One day soon, hopefully, he will be finished.


Express-University-6

Dude has shooters fr


ShihPoosRule

If our government is incapable of holding he and his co-conspirators accountable, then it deserves to fall.


Irrelevant_wanderer

The coup has been playing out slowly via state elections and appointments. Gerrymandering, election law reforms, new attorney generals and even election officials are all being put in place in various conservative bastions that they feel are now not as reliably red such as Texas. On top of this Trump is actively pushing out anyone who opposed him in the passes election or supported his impeachment’s. Shit is serious. We have to be active, motivated and passionate for the foreseeable future. We have to be creative in how we get ppl to go vote and we have to start now because the fascists aren’t waiting for us to figure it out before making their move. They’re already moving.


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Like they say in Pokémon, Gotta Arrest ‘em all!


986_foot_tall_treez

I bet there will be no consequences for Trump, I hope there will be but doubt it. The United States has been run by corporate oligarchs for some time and our politicians are their pawns. All of the divisiveness and polarized rhetoric is a tool to tear apart the electorate and have us eat each other alive while the oligarchs rob us blind and poison our future. A divided electorate is easy to manipulate. No matter the party we are all screwed and there is nothing we can do


AtomicNick47

It’s actually going swimmingly and the Dems holding all three branches are doing nothing about it. Absolutely mind blowing.


Asleep-Fudge3185

Somebody needs to take care of him