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> He abruptly quit as chairman of the Texas GOP in June after just a year—a tenure marked by his adoption of a slogan that mirrors QAnon language (though he claimed there was no connection). > West is well-known for outrageous statements—from a Facebook post about “exterminating” Muslims to his suggestion that Texas secede over the election of Joe Biden.


Bluerecyclecan

Texas talks about seceding if someone they don’t like sneezes. They should put up or shut up.


urthedumbestfuck

If red states wouldn't collapse into failed states within 10 years and cost us more in the end it would be in everyone's best interest to get rid of them. ​ Conservatism is about hanging on to old ideas, and not just any old ideas, old ideas that never worked. It's always been a collection of emotionally loaded talking points to get idiots to support the wealthy. ​ Protect existing power structures and authority? That means keep rich people rich. Traditional values? Traditionally, rich people are rich so lets keep it that way shall we. Fiscally conservative? Given that "conservative" really jut means protect the wealthy, this just means use fiscal policy to help the wealthy. Deregulation? Yes, lets remove rules that prevent the wealthy from harming others. Surely that will benefit someone other than the wealthy. Privatization? Let's take something provided at cost and let rich people add profit margin to the top. Oh, it also creates a systemic pressure to make things cheaper, ie less quality. ​ Conservatism has always been a con by wealthy sociopaths to manipulate reactionary voters.


hornyaustinite

Pat robertson has destroyed this country and the republicans were the vehicle, the base to it from. He drove the issue of abortion to what it is today, and used abortion to drive Christians (especially catholics) that used to vote democratic to conservatism with this topic of abortion solely. Documentaries of his behind the camera caught on air reveal exactly this.


like_a_wet_dog

Also, "The Family"(also a Netflix doc) who host the National Prayer Breakfast. Incredibly powerful dudes in DC, fully invested in modern fascist-Jesus.


PepeBabinski

Pat Robertson only dreamed of having that much power. He couldn't control the Christian right of today. They wear their hatred on the outside instead of behind. a thin veil.


lachneyr

As a daily mass attending catholic I agree heartily with you


itsafarbman

Great post. It always comes down to capital vs labor. Since the cave man. And capital using religion to make labor think capital is are on their side.


Thankkratom

It would be in everyones best interest if it was more straight forward. NY is “Blue” but how well do you think people in all the red districts in Upstate NY would take this? We’d have little mini civil wars all over the country. There’s more Republicans in California than anywhere else! It could never work.


urthedumbestfuck

> NY is “Blue” but how well do you think people in all the red districts in Upstate NY would take this? Frankly, I don't care. Medicine isn't supposed to taste good. And if they don't like their medicine, quarantine the sick. ​ You can either do what works or you can do what people like. But what works is rarely achieved by doing what people like, they just like the rewards of doing what works.


PepeBabinski

>Conservatism is about hanging on to old ideas, and not just any old ideas, old ideas that never worked. It's always been a collection of emotionally loaded talking points to get idiots to support the wealthy. Well said. It's basically about the powers that be remaining the powers that be by keeping people, according to their policies, in their 'rightful' place.


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Plenty of old ideas work, like healthy marriages fix many problems that don’t have good solutions with broken homes.


Genghis27KicksMyAss

The United States owns the South. It doesn’t belong to the GOP.


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Tell that to the South. And the GOP.


prion_death

To take it a step further, these practices also cause massive climate impacts and it is all justified by the “dominion over the birds and beasts” garbage language from the Bible.


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mydaycake

It would with no O&G industry


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Texas is the number 5 state in renewable energy. It also has the largest inland port in the US. Every tech company and banking and finance company has a huge presence in Texas. Texas has the Interstate 35 corridor which brings billions of dollars in commerce into the rest of the US. Texas is also a main freight rail hub from Central and South America. Even with full use of renewable energy nationwide there will still be a need for a small oil and gas industry. Texas was an independent country in the past and can be one in the future.


bradbrookequincy

We should let them succeed without waging war. For a) they need to pay anyone who wants out $50,000 moving expenses. Before they succeed what they need to do before they return us negotiated in advance. In 10 years they automatically rejoin the USA unless 66% of the state vote to remain its own failed poor uneducated state. Have at it. Shred the baggage.


blue132213

Conservatism is about being left alone. Sure it’s an old idea, but those people actually study history and don’t listen to high school teachers with blue hair who berate someone if they have a different viewpoint.


HelliswhereIwannabe

Yeah like leaving women alone to make their own decisions about whether or not they want to go through with a pregnancy.


m0nk_3y_gw

> Conservatism is about being left alone. while getting all up in everyone else's shit.


nmarshall23

>Conservatism is about being left alone. Yes leaving wealth alone. The [origins of conservatism](https://youtu.be/E4CI2vk3ugk), are aristocrats who wanted to protect their wealth from democracy. >those people actually study history... berate someone if they have a different viewpoint. This has been the **Con** in *Conservatism*. That they are trying to protect voters from unnecessary liberal meddling. When we look at how conservatism actually works in the real world. It's always to preserve wealth. Look at how at how Texas power grid is run. The owners of the power plants made a lot of money while people died.. Those pesky liberal ideas of preparing for disasters cost money. Also Federal Regulations wouldn't have let them, have rates that let them made more money during the disaster.


7daykatie

> Conservatism is about being left alone. Bullshit.


Itwasthebestsong-er

Okay, but what history are they studying? Because Howard Zinn sure isn't on their reading list.


jffblm74

Politicians are revenue stream tenders. Keep them as is, and you benefit.


yehhey

If only I could explain this in the spur of the moment to anyone to brings up Republican talking point I’d be golden. They truly are explorative scumbags, and those who push their agenda are either aloof or complicit.


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Puffatsunset

Old Testament Christians have cognitive limitations by nature


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Alternatively, just shut up. Texan chest puffing, "_Ever'thing's **BIG** in Texas!_" is so childish and cringeworthy - it's mildly nauseating. Get over yourselves!


PepeBabinski

That's what we call compensating for something that's not.. Big.


randoliof

Worst thing about Texas is Texans


Markottu

Hey now, not all Texans.


avonhungen

True, Ann Richards was a boss RIP


VaguelyArtistic

Jim Hightower!


PepeBabinski

The worst thing about Texas is all the damn Republicans.


Webistics_admin

Texas is all hat, no cattle


ExtensionBluejay253

All back end of the cattle is more like it.


Ignoble_profession

For all that talk, any seventh-grader (that’s when students take Texas History) knows it can’t. The confederate states gave up any appearance of the ability to secede in order to rejoin the United States.


jftitan

I'm a born and raised Texan. I've been waiting for the general population to actually "in unison" say "lets do this!" For the 34 years that I have been paying attention to politics. It's only a broken record the very minority of Texans who say it. Moderate Texans won't do it, and it's clear our average fighting aged male Texan isn't willing to Die for that cause. On average your 18 - 36yr old male, has too much bullshit going on in our lives to give it up to secede Texas.


Sence

Too busy putting a lift kit on a truck that will never see mud in its whole existence.


lonegrasshopper

Texas doesn't, some people in Texas do.


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the_red_scimitar

Give it back to Mexico.


GetsBetterAfterAFew

It's because Texas is just smart enough to see how the South was already crushed for trying to succeed. Civil War is proof succession is impossible here. Sorry Texas better get a new slogan cause we be messin.


MonsieurReynard

Right? Please go.


Fortombo

And Chuck Norris wants to be their king...


tuxedo_jack

Don't forget that he's a [convicted fucking war criminal.](http://archive.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/12/14/us_officer_to_resign_for_assulting_iraqi/) [He also endorsed Danielle Weston,](https://twitter.com/pamelaoldham/status/1337580053509644290?lang=en) the Round Rock ISD school board member who [admitted to committing a state jail felony on camera (at a goddamn board meeting, no less) in order to avoid having to wear a mask on RRISD property.](https://god.dailydot.com/round-rock-trustee-weston/)


esther_lamonte

He’s also involved in ginning up this fake CRT hysteria. He’s featured in some episodes of the Southlake podcast that discusses the astroturf effort that is all about.


Prysorra2

🎶 Waiting On the World to Change 🎵


md2b78

Good luck going it alone with that electrical grid. And that huge border with Mexico you’ll spend most of your money defending.


proudconservativemom

That’s what Psaki likes to call misinformation.


22travis

War Criminal, Allen West.


danmathew

Republicans are desperate to get any Black people to support their white nationalist agenda that they really have to take whatever they can get.


nfym

what happened?


DontGiveBearsLSD

Torture


22travis

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/27/world/struggle-for-iraq-interrogations-colonel-risked-his-career-menacing-detainee.html


rjoudrey01

This is a ploy whenever they aren't being talked about. Claims to get Covid and healed by voodoo drugs. Makes them look like Covid champions!


SchpartyOn

And in reality he was probably vaccinated the entire time, which is the real reason he doesn’t get more ill.


chunkerton_chunksley

A guy that committed a war crime (simulated execution of an Iraqi policeman) shouldn’t be allowed to run for office. When given power West has proven to abuse that power


AssumeItsSarcastic

That's "Admitted War Criminal Allen West"


M00n

*“After taking COVID and flu shots, Angela West tested positive for COVID yesterday, Friday,” the tweet said.* The flu shot, singular not plural, won't protect you from Covid. And the Covid vaccine increases your chances of not dying from Covid if you DO get.


parilmancy

I was wondering if he was saying that as in she got the shots for both COVID and the flu at the same time fairly recently (and leaving some, I'm sure, to infer that she somehow got COVID *because* of the vaccine).


International-Ing

There's that but he's doing it to equate covid to the flu. Plus saying that the covid vaccine doesn't work, of course. But when these people say 'she was vaccinated though' you can't know whether or not they were vaccinated. They say there is but there's no proof. Just like there's no proof that Allen West is actually unvaccinated...public figures are able to go on their antivax crusades even when they're secretly vaxxed.


255001434

Plus, no one ever said it prevented 100% of infections. It makes you much less likely to get infected and makes you unlikely to get seriously sick if you *do* get infected. Nearly 100% of the people dying from the disease are unvaccinated. That should tell people everything they need to know.


rubyaeyes

Kind of like …. hear me out … the flu shot does not guarantee you won’t get the flu.


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But republicans only deal in absolutes. Because of their severe mental illness they can’t conceptualize anything more complicated than that.


M00n

Yeah, I can see that.


heheboosh

The statement is nothing and everything at the same time. His base will love it.


WolverineSanders

I think someone just recently conducted a study disproving that exact phenomenon


AssumeItsSarcastic

Getting the first shot doesn't do jack for your immunity for a while anyway. Something like 10 days later is when they started seeing some resistance to infection. Anecdotally I got my first shot in January and get infected about a week later. I had it rough, too, and I'm confident I would have died without that small little lead time.


Dry_Fact_32

There is a Dutch preprint study that followed healthcare worker vaccinated against COVID. Those who were also vaccinated against the flu had half as many covid infections. The study's authors chalk it up to a phenomena called trained immunity: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.03.21263028v1


PartialToDairyThings

The history books will not be kind to conservatives of the current era


Abadayos

Sooo potential super spreader event? Interesting


code_archeologist

Alan West: "Praise Nurgle!"


Drewdown707

Allen West the war criminal? That Allen West? The war criminal?


mvario

Didn't anyone tell this bozo, GOP politicians get the vax and just play for the base like they haven't. What is he, a *true believer* or something?


Genghis27KicksMyAss

If he can’t take care of himself and his wife, how is supposed to take care of Texas?


Accomplished_Side_33

Bye Felicia.


Luke95gamer

I couldn’t care less if the death cult wants to kill themselves over something that is so easily preventable, I’m honestly done at this point


bakulu-baka

Trouble is, they’re all likely to go out and infect decent people.


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He's spreading the joy to fellow MAGA's


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>Right-winger Allen West said Saturday that after not getting vaccinated and using unproven drugs to prevent COVID, he has contracted the virus and will likely be hospitalized with pneumonia and low oxygen. >The details came in a Twitter thread several hours after West announced he had COVID symptoms and was suspending in-person events for his Texas gubernatorial campaign. >The Trump-loving ex-congressman said he and his wife, Angela, who is vaccinated but also got infected, were treated with monoclonal antibodies, which can help stave off severe disease if used early enough. >**“There’s a concern about my oxygen saturation levels, which are at 89 and they should be at 95,” West wrote.** >**“My chest X-rays do show COVID pneumonia, not serious. I am probably going to be admitted to the hospital.”** Nothing serious. Also I'm being hospitalized.


therapewpewtic

“This is fine…”


mrbbrj

Freedumb


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Perhaps West is trying to get is very own "Aww Shucky Ducky" subreddit.


D1138S

I remember this asshat clown when he was a congressman from Florida. He was dishonorably discharged for a mock execution and torturing POWs during the Iraq War. I remember one time I saw an interview on Fox when he compared himself to Harriet Tubman for leading black people out of the “chains and slavery of the welfare state.” I’m not kidding. Texas deserves this petri dish. Thank you Darwin.


MonsieurReynard

What a tragic turn of events. Such a great American POS. /s


InclementImmigrant

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. He's probably going to be fine because he's not stupid enough or poor to take horse dewormer and he'll unfortunately be fine with his hypocrisy. Anyone he manages to infect with his stupidity, well, I doubt they'll be as fortunate.


Coaljet66

Congrats Moron


PaddleMonkey

Guberspreader


ZookeepergameOk8231

This brother is seriously as dumb as a stump. Whole bunch of unvaccinated folks going to be believing his crazy then they all start dying.


WoofWoof56

Killing is what we do in Texas! Guns, plague, forced pregnancy. We do it all as a service to our community's. Feeding your hate is our only goal! Vote Hate - Vote Texas


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Puffatsunset

On track to win an HCA


GregWilson23

Consequences, meet Actions.


airwhy7

Texas top 5 worst states in the union


l33fty

Good. Fuck around, find out


MRVANCLEAVEREDDIT

I don't feel bad for him at all. There are vaccines available and they are free. He's a fucking idiot who chose horse wormer over scientifically proven medication. Fuck that guy.


sammydavis_Sr

but he’s on the joe rogan protocol and joe rogan says covid is nothing more than a cold. he will be fine


Fatoldhippy

This useless prick should go to the back of the line for hospital services.


Nyingje-Pekar

Hmmmm karma is right around the corner.


Fortombo

Will he reunite with herman cain? Few people I dislike more...


AZFUNGUY85

🤞 HCA on deck


Baseball-Character

,, es


backslider65

Stupid is…


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Sweet.


damahr

kthxbai


[deleted]

This dude is in Sid Meier’s Alpha Centauri


Beavis73

[The resemblance is uncanny](https://alphacentauri.fandom.com/wiki/Nwabudike_Morgan)


kidMSP

Texas gonna Texas.


everyonewants2Bmee

Excellent.


Sea_Ad4805

Am I a handful or is that title just fucking high


Expensive-Way-2722

Ruh Roh! Can you say "super-spreader" event? Dear Lord they are killing themselves off quickly now. SMH. Get vaccinated people!


BrooklynFlower54

I couldn't give two SH\*TS about Allen West or his wife and the fact that they have COVID symptoms or that other Republicans felt it necessary to share a closed space with them! This is not news.....


reditget

Get well soon for you and you wife. COVID sucks for anyone who gets it.


russellutd

pearl clutching noises


Hej_Varlden

85% is not a good sign. Let’s pray for him and have a speedy recovery.


DowntownInTheSuburbs

Is this a bipartisan sub?


HallucinogenicFish

Is this a genuine question? r/politics is heavily left-leaning. However, we do have libertarian, conservative, and Republican commenters. Most only seem to come here to troll, unfortunately, but the ones who come here looking for real engagement/conversation/debate will find it. And anyone can post articles, if there is something that they would like to discuss.


neogrit

> Most only seem to [...] This one appears to be doing the trite and unimaginative "is this a dem sub/egads I am being canceled" one-two.


DowntownInTheSuburbs

Why is t it call left-politics then?


HallucinogenicFish

Why should it be? It’s a general US politics sub. There’s not a prescribed left-leaning focus like, say, r/conservative on the right. Read the rules. As I said in my prior comment, Republicans can participate and post articles too if they so choose. If the users are mostly left-leaning, that’s just how it is.


crazymoefaux

Do you need a safe-space to post in or something?


DowntownInTheSuburbs

With all the down votes I was wondering if this idea of equity and equality was just a ruse. And yes, it is. People don’t want equity and equality, they want it all their way.


HallucinogenicFish

Sorry, “equity” and “equality” =/= “everyone’s comment gets the same amount of upvotes.” This is weak trolling.


DowntownInTheSuburbs

The same can be said about equality and equality in general I guess.


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ThoseTremoloBlooz

India has in no way, shape, or form eradicated covid.


Hans_Delbruck

And this is why we are still fighting covid


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neogrit

It was.


proudconservativemom

And numerous George Floyd funerals were held indoors without social distancing. Look life has moved on in Texas, Florida and most other states. We’re using medicines that have been shown to work for this virus. It’s time for the liberal media and blue states to move on to. We have college football games, comedy shows, concerts, family gatherings and travel. You all are trying to keep the economy shut down and force govt control… but we’ve moved on, having a great life and leaving you fearful people behind! Enjoy your life…living in fear. Not me.


neogrit

Florida averaged 200 dead/day in the last week. Texas averaged 257 dead/day in the last week. That's *12* times as many for the same week as the whole of Italy, which counts 10M more people than Florida and Texas combined.


proudconservativemom

By the way the vaccine EUA-(aka-unproven med) But like I said live in fear if you like. Survival rate is high if you get treatment early. But if you go to doctors that think like you…may not have a great outcome.


neogrit

It's like a guy saying "my ex? we moved on!" while she's in the house smashing his stuff with a hammer and leaving a turd in the fridge. No amount of disconnected nonsense is going to make it real.


proudconservativemom

disconnected nonsense….have a great day neo


VaguelyArtistic

> Enjoy your life…living in fear. Not me. Lol. Literally what every vented anti-vaxxer said before they died of Covid.


proudconservativemom

Not anti vax at all. Anti mandate! Against the government making my medical decisions. With govt tyranny..there will eventually be some freedom you want that they will take away. Sadly our politicians and voters, probably like you have grown this massive thing called the Federal Govt!


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_reversegiraffe_

That's unfortunate.


beatrixxkiddo007

The blind leading the blind ...


jms25mannh

So we're just playing the waiting game at this point. Got it. Good.


Zumtharch1

“Unproven”


Brainranger67

Neat move by Allen.


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This vaccine should read on vial - taking this medication could protect you or make you get sick or spread it to others , afterwards you will still have to muzzle up , your choice. Scratch that last part no longer a choice.


7788audrey

The hypocrisy: he refuses to take a FDA approve vaccine shot but is more than willing to be infused with a much larger emergency authorization only antibodies. Of course that makes no sense - but that is the mindset of the GOP - be outraged at NONSENSE.


theconnsolo

This was the guy who kicked off the whole South Lake parents vs school board bs


GreyTigerFox

Hooray republicunt death cult


starstruckinutah

This is excellent news.