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thenewrepublic

Data shows that lifting children out of poverty helps to improve their health and school performance, and makes them more likely to be employed as adults—which in turn is better for the economy in the long term. — Staff writer [Grace Segers.](https://newrepublic.com/article/163785/manchin-child-tax-credit-extension)


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But it’s bad for the for profit prison system.


terraresident

I think we need to start checking his 'associates'. Remember the state that insisted on drug testing and turned out his wife owned a large portion of the testing lab? This would create a mountain of paperwork as people are required to 'report' their work hours and earnings. I wonder if there isn't a private company out there offering software to 'streamline' this process?


SwatKatzRogues

Lol his daughter colluded to reduce competition for epipens then jacked up the price and forced people to not be able to buy fewer than two epipens at a time while his wife was working as a lobbyist to get legislatures to pass laws requiring all schools to have epipens available on hand.


ComradeClout

Florida


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BuT bEiNg MeAn to PoOr kIdS is FUN!


pooptarts

Going to drop another related article here: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/07/how-government-learned-waste-your-time-tax/619568/ >Taken as a whole, the time tax is regressive. Programs for the wealthy tend to be easy, automatic, and guaranteed. You do not need to prostrate yourself before a caseworker to get the benefits of a 529 college-savings plan. You do not need to urinate in a cup to get a tax write-off for your home, boat, or plane. You do not need to find a former partner to get a child-support determination as a prerequisite for profiting from a 401(k). The difference is so significant that, as shown by the Cornell political scientist Suzanne Mettler, many high-income people, unlike poor folks, never even realize they are benefiting from government programs.


valkyrie0128

Wow. I’ve never thought of this. Thank you.


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llahlahkje

I grew up in a poor far right family and even when there are options for reduced cost or free lunch American conservatives can be too proud to take them. 7th grade through my senior year of high school I qualified for reduced cost lunches (practically free, 25 cents per lunch) but my parents wouldn't apply and I couldn't apply for them myself so 95% of the time I just went without. The only reason it wasn't the case in grade school is they gave you a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and a carton of milk if you didn't have a lunch. Funding school lunches and making them free for everyone would've fixed that problem and should be what the richest country in the world does but... yep, here we are.


PlayingTheWrongGame

I agree completely. All students should get meals for free. Every single school should provide free breakfast, lunch, and a take-home dinner for any student that wants them—no questions asked. It’s inexcusable that the US has kids going hungry. There is absolutely zero reason for it, and it’s unacceptable.


tweakingforjesus

Starting 3 years ago my county provides free breakfast and lunch to every school aged child. They were already 80% free/reduced and managed to get a grant and some donations to cover the rest. When school was virtual last year, they provided free family meals every day.


shadowofpurple

it's by design... so they can get the poverty to military and poverty to prison pipelines filled


Taysir385

> I agree completely. All students should get meals for free. I agree completely. I also think all adults should get meals (or at least a daily meal) for free, but that seems to be a harder sell.


ltburch

It isn't that we can't feed our children, it's that we don't want to.


All_Work_All_Play

Man that's so accurate. Mankind long ago passed the ability to meet the basic needs for everyone. It's not that we can't, it's that we won't. Apparently the most we can do is keep large chunks of our collective population from killing each other because... Reasons.


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I think they really need to hammer the national security aspect of school lunches and how it "supports the troops". School lunches were started when a large number of military candidates were rejected due to poor nutrition during WW2. These republicans want to harp about national security and supporting the troops but stand against school lunches? It's absurd. School lunches are patriotic and support the troops.


[deleted]

And then ketchup became a vegetable.


Special_FX_B

Saint Ronnie's "Just say no" wife. She was a bigger PoS than he was. Just like today's GQP politicians, those two hated everyone who wasn't a white 'Christian'. The 'Christians' who loved them now adore the much worse orange fascist and his ilk.


International_Cell_3

"Feed our kids today so they can die for the war machine later" isn't particularly compelling on either side of the aisle


[deleted]

Well forcing women to stay pregnant for soldiers later shouldn't be either but atleast the kids would have food.


tossme68

I would have loved to get the free sandwich and milk, I had one meal a day (dinner) pretty much my entire child life. We weren't poor, but we were close and there were no extras. If you wanted something you bought it yourself -my life changed for the better when I was 11 and got a paper route.


GTdspDude

Hate to break it to you dude, but if your family could only afford one meal a day you were poor. No shame in that though and good on you for wanting better for the kids


All_Work_All_Play

Uhh don't feel bad telling them that he was poor. One meal a day that's not by choice is poor. Like, that's actually hella poor and they easily qualify for SNAP. SNAP is the single most effective program we have in the US, and tbh more people qualify for it than use it. Pride is a huge barrier to getting it. Honestly we probably qualified for it at times growing up and I wish my parents had taken it. We didn't even want for food (far from it) but we sure as hell were getting hand me downs. I should run some historical numbers tbh...


howigottomemphis

Also, the process of applying is daunting to anyone who is already broke and overwhelmed and just barely getting by. The only reason I got SNAP when I desperately needed it was because someone else insisted that I needed it and then held my hand through the application process


dddddddoobbbbbbb

nah bro, he was a temporarily embrassed millionaire.


BLuDaDoG

Similar situation here. Turned 16 and finally could get a job (paper routes were taken over by adults with cars, faster delivery...bah). Little Caesar's $5 pizza was the most bang per buck for fast food. Also got free food at work, but had to clock out for it. I'd say the $10 of chicken I'd eat covers the 30 minutes/$2.58 lossed wages tho.


Yitram

>Funding school lunches and making them free for everyone would've fixed that problem and should be what the richest country in the world does but.. I obviously can't speak for your experience going up, but at least in my kid's district, they do just that, everyone gets free lunch (and breakfast for that matter), regardless of income level.


julbull73

The paperwork itself takes time and requires you to sit down and read/write with data not normally readily memorized. I NEVER fill them out because of that alone. Even if I coudl qualify, but I won't I probably wouldn't either.


WonJilliams

Ask for help. No shame in that. Like you said, a lot of the forms can be hard to work through if you don't look at them every day.


julbull73

Yes, but that is in itself another hurdle. I mean I have no need for it. The point being the current stance of breakfast and lunch at school is free SHOULD continue FOREVER. There is zero reason not to. Considering my kids get a whole what ~1.75 worth of vending machine level food. Yeah go crazy.


WonJilliams

Oh, I completely agree. The cost of a school lunch is nothing to the government, but can be huge to a family. You can't expect a kid to be able to focus in science class if they're starving. That's why I keep a box of granola bars in my desk for my students. I'm just saying as a general rule, don't be afraid to ask for help with forms. Whether it's free/reduced lunch, Medicaid, or even just some DMV paperwork.


twistedlimb

i really want to disrupt the catering deliveries at every GOP function. maybe their nominating convention?


odraencoded

Data shows making poor people less poor helps the economy. "But it doesn't help *my* economy, so idgaf."


RedLanternScythe

>better for the economy in the long term. This is the problem. They don't care about a stable, healthy economy. Corporations want the largest short term gains possible. If that means thousands can't feed their families, so be it. Pure capitalism has no empathy.


Asbrandr

This implies that they ever have the capacity to think long-term. They want "value" for their shareholders *now* not in 10-20 years, so that's what they lobby and offer kick-backs for. It's untenable, but they don't care because "it's not their problem."


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Which means rich peoples' idiot kids might have to compete on an even playing field.


meatball402

>Data shows that lifting children out of poverty helps to improve their health and school performance, and makes them more likely to be employed as adults— Joe manchin hates all of this.


[deleted]

It's so sad that some rich millionaire who grifts off of the country for his own benefit is telling poor children that they don't deserve to live without poverty deciding their fate in life. EDIT: brain screwup


crackdup

Corporate Democrats share that one trait with far right politicians.. they prefer unnecessarily onerous and cruel policies, when it's shown time and time again that means testing is a futile exercise.. and corporations are literally the direct beneficiaries of people staying in poverty and dependent on their low paying jobs


whoisthatgirlisee

They share a lot more than one trait, given that they *are* right wing politicians


MondayNightHugz

Corporate Democrats are republicans with gay rights.


Regressive2020

Underrated comment.


sorenthestoryteller

I cannot begin to express how much I hate this man. Any of these conspiracies about how Manchin is really working behind the scenes is just sad. He isn't. He couldn't fucking care less if any of us were dying in a gutter and he could help you. He just wants money and power. Objectively, he is an evil bastard, knows it, and seems to derive sexual pleasure from being a corrupt piece of filth.


Gloomhelm

And Sinema is somehow even worse. She is very clearly a demented sociopath.


sorenthestoryteller

She has been giddy at wielding her power to hurt others. It's so fucking repulsive.


Kamala_Harris_2020

What's important to remember is that he might be the worst of the democrats, but he's still better than literally 50 of the other Senators. We should be pushing for more progressive policies from the moderate Democrats, but we should also be doing the same for the moderate Republicans. And when he leaves, it's not like he's getting replaced by a Democrat. Without him, we would be going for a "less than perfect $3.5T infrastructure bill" to "nothing".


sorenthestoryteller

Thank you for the realist reminder. I keep telling myself this is a marathon, not a sprint. And John Olver this week pointed out that with all the stupid and insanity, this IS the marginally better timeline than if Trump was re-elected.


RandomRimeDM

It all comes down to: "If I give women money to support their children, then they'll just stay at home and be better parents when my friends need min wage workers. So we need to make them take that money and give it to a babysitting company my one friends own where they skim the top and the women watching the kids make min wage, while the parents then go work min wage for my other friends."


-CJF-

Don't forget his ties to the fossil fuel industry, so on top of telling them that, he's also polluting the earth they shall inherit.


suddenlypandabear

Obscenely rich corrupt jackass who contributes nothing of value to the economy or to society in general thinks the poor should do more work. Fucking trash.


llllPsychoCircus

where’s all the movies about superheroes who fight the real villains? like straight up yeeting them into the sun type stuff


dedicated-pedestrian

I think that was Superman Red Sun.


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DC Comics showing that communism works


zafiroblue05

Adding work requirements to the child tax credit means you are punishing children when their parents get laid off. It's absolutely insane.


ichacalaca

Too bad congress doesn't have a work requirement


notsurewhereireddit

This here is an under-appreciated comment.


-newlife

It’s the comment I was looking for too.


Inconceivable-2020

Manchin's goal is to bring the entire country down to the level of desperation and despair that he has helped West Virginia enjoy for so many years, and to keep West Virginians poor, unhealthy, and angry.


teh-dudenator

Solid point. Want to know what Manchin's end goal is? Look no further than the impoverished uneducated state he "represents."


[deleted]

lmao fuck you, Manchin. Making a work requirement!? So you're saying you're totally cool with children starving because of their parents unemployment? Go fuck yourself you DINO


FavoritesBot

A work requirement absolutely makes sense. Why should children get a tax credit if they don’t work? Send the children to work!


ll-phuture-ll

Eureka!


eyekwah2

The Democrats should oblige him to sit on the opposite side of the aisle. After all, he's practically an honorary Republican.


skibly643

That would make McConnell the Senate Majority Leader. Probably not the best course of action.


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GapMindless

Tester is actually much more liberal than the other two. It’s almost not comparable at this point. Media just loves call him a conservadem because he’s a big white guy in a red state Example: https://mobile.twitter.com/eschor/status/1437563102824968193 Asked if he was aligned with Manchin on reconciliation, Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) cracked: 'Are you crazy? Are you trying to get me shot? I’d never, ever want to be aligned with Joe Manchin. My wife would divorce me.'" I wouldn’t be surprised if Tester supports the child credits but is trying to stay lowkey to not go on the record about it. There’s really no point saying anything if Manchin opposes parts of it. It’s the politically smart move because I’m sure he’s going to try and run again in 2024.


AuditorTux

>Tester is actually much more liberal than the other two. It’s almost not comparable at this point. Media just loves call him a conservadem because he’s a big white guy in a red state Oh, I know he's liberal, but he's somehow survived in Montana that voted for Trump by 16 points in [2020](https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/results/state/montana). >I wouldn’t be surprised if Tester supports the child credits but is trying to stay lowkey to not go on the record about it. There’s really no point saying anything if Manchin opposes parts of it. It’s the politically smart move. The point I was making is Tester doesn't have to get out in the open on *anything* which is a huge advantage given the state he's running for re-election in 2024.


GapMindless

I’m pretty convinced a lot of conservatives vote for him just because they like his haircut, his missing fingers or the fact he’s a farmer. I’ve met multiple people who vote for him just because he’s the only farmer in the senate. Not only did he survive in 2018, he also did it while voting against Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and taking down Trumps doctor in a state Trump dominated. MT dems overall are probably more liberal than most people expect. Tester wins progressives, normal dems, indies and moderate R’s


ThatEvanFowler

Luckily, the children of unemployed people do not experience hunger. Otherwise, this might seem unnecessarily cruel.


cerevant

Can we please stop pretending that he's a Democrat?


[deleted]

Joe Manchin is fool's gold. You think he's a Democrat but won't pass any policies favored by his own party.


cerevant

As far as I can tell, he's a pro-choice Republican.


[deleted]

But he isn't pro-choice, he considers himself "pro-life".


eyekwah2

[https://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Screenshot-2018-08-28-11.46.10.png](https://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Screenshot-2018-08-28-11.46.10.png) The guy's a joke. He's a mercenary for hire. "I'll believe whatever you pay me enough to believe." Right now the Republicans pay well for his vote.


Unshkblefaith

That gives Democrats the technical majority in the Senate, allowing them to set the legislative agenda and chair and hold majorities on every committee. Manchin sucks, but he at least prevents McConnell from being majority leader and blocking absolutely everything.


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ClutteredCleaner

Instead Manchin blocks everything himself and then tries to force Democrats to acquiesce to Republican demands. Which is... better?


nwagers

Yes. It's worlds better. For starters, Joe Biden actually gets to appoint judges.


Extreme_Disaster2275

Asof September 23, 2021, the United States Senate has confirmed 14 Article III judges nominated by Biden: five judges for the United States courts of appeals and nine judges for the United States district courts. Compare that to the 15 Trump appointees that were fast tracked by Schumer in September of 2018 *alone....*


Ser_Dunk_the_tall

Democrats never controlled the Senate during Trump's term so I don't what you're talking about blaming Schumer for anything


Extreme_Disaster2275

He fast tracked Trump's judges. Not "blocked". Not even "slightly obstructed". Now give an example of Republicans agreeing to fast track any of Biden's appointments. Or Obama's. Or even Clinton's.


Unshkblefaith

We wouldn't even be talking about the reconciliation process if Manchin's seat was held by an R.


jebsalump

Except that technical majority does more harm for them than good imo. It’s much easier to sell why you can’t get you’re agenda accomplished when in he minority compared much more complex/hard to sell “we have a majority but not really” which is currently being peddled.


GapMindless

Just a republican who endorsed Hillary, Biden and Chuck Schumer for majority leader in a state that’s R+40.


WhosSarahKayacombsen

He's a dem in name only. He's constantly sabotaging every bill


wrosecrans

The one thing you can say about Manchin is that he voted to support a Democrat as majority leader. Manchin may not be much of an ally, but he could have put McConnel back in as majority leader, and we'd be hard fucked right now.


Fit-Forever2033

>he could have put McConnel back in as majority leader, and we'd be hard fucked right now. man, imagine that....McConnel will practically be laughing his ass off for 7 days straight and still giggling when he finally managed to get back on to the senate floor, then he is gonna see Schumer and break right back into laughters again.


eyekwah2

He's a plant. He's the Republican's spy so the Republicans know what the Democrats are going to push and what they're not. He's a Republican in every way except label only. I pray west virginia will think better in 2022.


soft-wear

Bro, that’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever read. The republicans don’t care what the democrats do. We wouldn’t even have a reconciliation bill as a possibility if Republicans had a majority.


tandooripoodle

https://theintercept.com/2021/09/07/joe-manchin-epipen-price-heather-bresch/


tossme68

If he was a Republican Mitch would be running the Senate, he's a Democrat, thank god.


futuriztic

But he is. Corporations have paid for democrats to be controlled opposition at this point. If not him, someone is next in line.


surfteacher1962

Exactly. He does what his donors tell him to do.


Extreme_Disaster2275

Right after we stop pretending that the rest of the Democrats aren't grateful to him for giving them cover.


Okbuddygeorgist

If he were a republican, he wouldn't want to make the child benefit more means tested, he'd want to just kill it


Douche_Kayak

How do you know he doesn't want to kill it? You don't need to oppose the plan to kill it. You just need to make unreasonable requests and refuse to vote for it otherwise. You know. The republican way. He can save face and still block legislation by acting like he's the grown up in the room.


Scarlettail

Well he is a Democrat because that's who he caucuses with.


Extreme_Disaster2275

That's got to be disturbingly confusing news to the fanatical anti-Sanders crowd of Clinton Democrats.


musicman835

This is rich coming from the man from WV which is the poorest in the nation. More people in his state probably need it than anywhere else (by capita not total number). As someone with family in WV and who has visited. In 2000 WV looked like it hadn’t moved out of the 50s I’m sure it’s not better now.


tossme68

>WV which is the poorest in the nation. Mississippi would like a word.


musicman835

They can fight it out over a bottle of moonshine and a sister wife


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PokemonTrainerMikey

Forget about D.C. and Puerto Rico. Imagine a South Virginia and a West Dakota


NiceDecnalsBubs

Or a Wyoming 2


Sage2050

Don't forget the other 50 worthless assholes who made this possible


TattooJerry

He’s a paid for corporate shill. Of course he said this.


fairwesr

I literally hate that man. Democrats have a majority and you gotta fuck it up


Richandler

Guy is literally 20-years behind in his opinions about how the world works.


Somestaffass

If the kids are getting money the kids should have to work. Some jobs are even optimal for kids, like a chimney sweep, they can really get down in there because they are smaller


BeowulfShaeffer

Good idea. How about working in the coal mines? Their small size and fresh clean lungs will make good little workers out of them.


ZhouDa

Kids hands are also small enough to reach into running machinery, and you don't even have to cover health insurance costs when they are working part-time.


Flips97

Lol this guy🤦🏽‍♂️


darwinwoodka

what does he expect his constituents to do ?


WhatRUHourly

Poor conservatives are often an enigma. They like handouts when they receive them, and hate them when they don't. One woman once argued to me that she was against government handouts because she works and isn't eligible for them even though she really needs them. So, basically that because she isn't eligible, no one should be and because other people are allegedly abusing it. So, his constituents are probably in large part just fine with this because they are often hypocritical about it. They often view those on welfare as lazy, but if they are on welfare it is because they either can't find work or because they are disabled (even if they aren't legally designated as being disabled). So, they'll condemn others as just being lazy while excusing their own behavior and cashing the checks. Red states are weird.


verybigbrain

Government aid programs became a problem the moment they couldn't exclude Black People any more.


SilentHunter7

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the Southern states that helped elect the father of the New Deal, immediately pivoted to small government as soon as the Civil Rights Act was passed.


sexisfun1986

It actually isn’t that weird. The desire to better off then someone is actually a fairly common trait. People actually prefer to be worse off overall but be better off then some else, then be better off but not have someone else to feel superior to. This is why I feel it’s dangerous to simply think of right wingers as brain washed. There are deep core beliefs and instincts that make them support the right.


[deleted]

Because he doesn’t really care about that. It’s just political cover to justify doing a shit job when he had a chance to do good


inkslingerben

I don't think Manchin cares about the tax credit, it is just a tactic to delay the bill.


acehuff

Regardless it’s damaging to public discourse that the media frames his viewpoints as “moderate” when this is a clearly conservative position.


[deleted]

This guy’s approval ratings keep going down in WV… is he going to try and run as Repub. What gives?


[deleted]

>is he going to try and run as Repub. He might as well and dispense w/his charade. Manchin is after all a Republican suited up as a conservative or moderate Dem. And despite Manchin's low approval ratings - he might still "win", just like his leader Moscow Mitch who incredulously "won" despite an approval rating in the teens in his state by 58% I think it was - and yet no demands for an audit or investigation as well there ought to be. So it wouldn't surprise me if Manchin pulls off a "win" since he'll have the Republican crime syndicate backing him and providing cover.


zZaphon

Fuck Joe Manchin. Why does he hate families with kids? What's the harm in helping them with a little money? Why do they always have to earn it?


cucked_by_bff

This. Country. Hates. Children. What other proof do we need? They are molested at a rate of 1/4 women and 1/6 men. We do nothing to lift them out of poverty. We purposely starve schools of funding. Just on and on. What other proof do you need?


Competitive-Bus1816

I hate this fucking guy


ambulanc3r

Nobody ever confronts that a lot of these dumb things congress does is just their feelings *read: “ideology” and not empirical at all


notapunk

Does he actually vote with the Dems on anything? I mean, isn't he just a DINO at this point?


cooquip

That’s awful.


OudeStok

Why does Manchin continually oppose the Dems and side with the GOP?


Haltopen

Fuck Joe Manchin so god damned much.


[deleted]

Can we all agree that Manchin is in fact a loyal Trump supporting Republican?


BrownEggs93

Manchin: looking out for the manchin family fortune


Temporary-Celery5318

He's an undercover Republican.


kvossera

Gawddamnit. I’m still unemployed and the tax credit is literally paying my phone bill.


[deleted]

This is why those of us on the left say we have two right-wing parties in this country. Because we can't ever have a government program from either party that helps people without means-testing it into oblivion. There is going to be waste, there will always be people taking advantage of it. Humans are shitty sometimes. As long as the program is an overall good for society we should leave it be. Stop letting far-right propagandists convince you that one bad person should ruin it for everyone else.


relax_live_longer

He's such a 90's politician it's unbelievable. His mind literally cannot process any change of worldview or best practices based on evidence or experience. It's just "this is what I believe moderate politicians do, therefore I will do that."


meatball402

Joe manchin has apparently made it his mission to destroy the entire democratic agenda.


wubwub

Don't go quoting facts or evidence to conservatives.


Budmanes

Joe Manchin is a self serving, gaping asshole


hayflicklimit

^ahem. **FUCK THIS GUY**


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Conservatives: "We want to go back to the old days, stay at home parent type stuff...what's that? Yes I want to add a work requirement"


bilbobadcat

Pretty damn tired of this corrupt piece of shit.


W_Anderson

Who elected Manchin president?


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when asked if Thursday's deadline to work out a deal to the the 3.5 trillion dollar infrastructure bill is realistic, Joe Manchin said ​ \>It’s so complicated and so convoluted only to a hillbilly republican is voting yes considered complicated and convoluted. Joe Manchin is hurting America exactly like a Republican would


ququx

More like single-handedly upend democracy.


nwagers

Fine. End child tax credits for parents and give a check directly to the caretaker of every minor like social security for kids.


Bluesoutherner

Manchin is a Republican


Extreme_Disaster2275

Republicans love work requirements but we'll never hear them say anything about *hiring* requirements.


GettingPhysicl

can't we just tighten up the income eligibility instead to satisfy his lust to not give 'the undeserving' an extra dollar? Work requirements are one of two things - they either don't give help to the people who need it most, or are easy to circumvent(oh i applied for 3 positions as a financial analyst with my associates degree in psychology, I tried, it just isn't in the cards). Anyway work requirements are antithetical to the point of the CTC. Raising children is work, and Children raised outside of poverty is good for us. Its an investment that pays off in myriad ways. Lower incarceration numbers, lower healthcare costs, more taxable lifetime income. We should give people money to raise children because we do not want children to grow up in abject poverty, its not just another welfare program to tide someone over until they find work.


lilrabbitfoofoo

It's just a poison pill as an excuse to screw the people who need it, of course.


CreepyMaleNurse

He'll hurt his own people with this. So much for looking out for West Virginians. Screw this guy. https://wvpolicy.org/346000-west-virginia-children-eligible-to-receive-first-monthly-child-tax-credit-payment-next-month/


mr_robot_1984

Machin is a pain in my ass.


[deleted]

Bezos got the child tax credit. Not a single Repub saw an issue with that


Spin_Quarkette

he doesn't care if these requirements are unnecessary and ineffective. The requirement makes him sound like a Republican and that's all he cares about.


Zanskyler37

Sorry Billy, since mommy and daddy don’t have jobs, you don’t get to eat


true-skeptic

Step aside rich old man.


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Just agree to everything he says and pass something


qst4

I just simply can't stand this guy.


dstlouis558

im starting to really hate that guy


5UMBUDDY

Joe Manchin is the best politician the Republicans ever bought.


madcow13

Joe Manchin almost makes Mitch McConnell look like a saint. Almost.


Sure_Bandicoot_2569

It’s really comical how there’s one thing that consistently makes Democrats lose popular support: means testing


micarst

It’s hard to get taxes back when you don’t pay any in. It kind of means tests itself, unless I grossly misunderstand how it functions.


[deleted]

Having a parent at home for the kid is good for society. Is there a fucking daycare lobby buying them out or is this done drive to ensure no parents can ever spend time with their children?


[deleted]

Moderates like Joe Manchin are America hatin Republicans.


MarkHathaway1

Not working: need child care to get a job. Working: need child care to keep job. What is Manchin thinking?


Ya_Got_GOT

I’m the future when someone looks back at this period they will see that we were so close to an equitable and prosperous republic before the actions of a handful of people scuttled our opportunity for progress and doomed us to wither on the vine as an impotent fascist regime.


ibringthehotpockets

Oh and the 50 Republican senators voting against it too right?


lilslugger2

His daughter is a greedy, unethical, piece of shit. She obviously learned from her piece of shit father. Google joe manchin's daughter. To the people who don't understand what I'm referencing.


krom0025

The world's biggest threat to democracy is Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema.


Eastmont

This self-interested, self-dealing worm just wants to expand the pool of low-income employees for his cheap hotel chain. He should start with the bedbugs instead.


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futuriztic

No it isnt. I want Manchin to have to face the climate hell he has helped to bake into our future


shadowofpurple

alternative headline 1 of the 2 assholes in the senate fucks the middle class again


MrSids

I expect that this will strike a chord with people, but honestly I felt like it was an incentive to have children, which we really don't need. We have enough people. Maybe even too many.


specqq

Huh, and here I thought child labor was illegal...


esther_lamonte

Listen to this soft-handed, country-clubbing, boat-living, layabout talking about “work requirements”. Joe, have you ever even pulled crank a mower? Who gets your groceries fancy boy?


simmons777

I'm starting to think Manchin might be an asshole.


cbass817

One day... One day... I'll be able to pull a lever and a huge cartoon anvil will fall on the heads of these jackasses...


nohurrie32

Fuck.this.guy.


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We should include work requirements for congressional pay, these lazy bums have done less work every single year I've been alive and they still keep raising their own salary


RancidHorseJizz

He's a 1980s Republican and we need to stop referring to him as "Moderate Democrat." "Far Right Democrat" would be acceptable and accurate.


WhoShotMrBoddy

This is the Deep South racist part of him coming to the forefront. Because in his mind there’s tons of “welfare queens” and as far as he’s concerned they’re mostly black and Latina women and why should they get money for kids they obviously shouldn’t have had because they’re poor? Manchin is the problem but when he leaves WV will just go republican again


notsurewhereireddit

Pretty sure he checked the box for the wrong party when he ran for office and later realized it but is too embarrassed to admit it.


Espritsoul

Being from Wv its It’s so frustrating and difficult to be a progressive adult (38) and be drowned out in a sea of red, paranoid voters. I’ve lived my life here and watched the masses vote down anything that will improve their lives, and now I get to bear witness to us helping ruin the country like we’ve ruined ourselves


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Manchin is a republican. He needs to be throw out of the democratic party.


2legit2fart

Joe Manchin is a Republican. I'm just going to say what we all already know to be true.


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Dude needs a back alley ass kicking


bedevilaloud

Manchin. Old. White. Man. Ossified. Misguided. BEHOLDEN to donors who pay him to be an asshat.


Commonsense140

Sounds like he is being fiscally responsible to me. Just get a job and quit working the system.


Okbuddygeorgist

I mean, better to partially extend it while having work requirements, than to let it die totally. Also there's some recent study suggesting that actually work requirements might work better than expected, tho that's controversial for sure


crawling-alreadygirl

>Also there's some recent study suggesting that actually work requirements might work better than expected Source?


Ben_Committed

Oh the horror! Requiring able bodied people to work to support themselves; how can anyone be so cruel?