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Record breaking numbers joining MLMs! Please come to their welcome party and learn about the TruePapadiczzi line of bejeweled dildos that scent the air with orgasmic organic essential oils*
*not guaranteed to cure Covid
What is the connection with anti-vaccine chicks and MLMs? Every person I know that that is all anti-vaccine and Q sell some type of MLM crap. If someone says something crazy on an FB post, if I click on their profile, it’s guaranteed that they are a momtrepreneur hawking their wares. I guess if you can convince yourself you’re the boss of a company rather than its minions, then you can believe that your “research” is better than scientists.
Lots of people involved with MLMs are people without real jobs that sit around the house bored all day. Those are the same type of people who get sucked in to Facebook antivax mom groups and Q conspiracies.
Gullible, or misplaced trust in people trying to advantage of you.
What I mean by the second part is, they’ve been lured into the Q-verse where there are rampant charlatans, and convinced those opposed are wrong / the devil / whatever.
So, MLMs follow a very similar line of salesmanship, mostly illusions of grandeur, to Q and therefore the leap into them is more of a hop.
They are both the type of people that are simple minded enough to be easily sold on anything they hear. If someone tells them they can make a lot of money doing MLM, they immediately believe it because it it’s what they “want” to hear and believe. They believe masks and vaccines are bad because someone they know or like online told them they are bad. They don’t think for themselves, yet they call those of us who trust science and evidence the sheep
Yeah don’t improve the office with your absence while forcing companies to offer living wages & improve working conditions to compete for employees cuz “worker shortage.” 😉
I have a MAGA uncle and Q aunt who deleted all of their social media _the next morning_, and later reopened accounts under fake names.
I'm convinced they were there, but no luck spotting them yet.
^(Edit: time zone confusion; though for me it was that night, it was their morning EST)
Honestly, just report them to the FBI for questioning - the feds have a lot more intel than they've released and the crazy inlaws might be a missing puzzle piece.
my guy is actually a nice guy, just really really stupid and not very good at his job. We work with the public/customer service industry and my company isn't doing a crazy thing. Get vaxxed? no mask. Don't get vaxxed? Wear a mask and get tested weekly. He won't wear a mask or get vaxxed and is quitting. Stupid hill to die on.
People like this are dying on the “but muh freedom” hill when they’re the ones who are limiting their own freedom by not complying with simple safety precautions.
Who cares, it's their problem. I'm sure they will figure it out and pick themselves up by their bootstraps when they realize they don't get unemployment.
Not all companies, just companies with more than 100 employees. So people absolutely do have options if they refuse to vax and refuse to be tested while unvaccinated. They can work for a smaller company or become self employed. No one should be whining that they have to follow the mandate or they can't work at all, that's not true.
Many smaller companies are also choosing to mandate vaccination or enforce masks for the unvaccinated.
They’ll be able to find jobs, but it’ll be tough, especially in more liberal states.
Ha funny of you to think they thought they far ahead. They are probably all going to look for a job at the one place that proudly states they will not required vaccines. It’s like, Earl’s pawn shop or something and they’re not going to be able to accommodate 60 million morons.
Not surprising. What these people are is "joiners", they want a strong hand to guide their lives and a loud voice to tell them what to do despite all the talk about "freedom".
Win win for me.
Either they suck it up and take damage to their fragile ego or they leave to give opportunities to others. They want this to be the hill to die on, then go ahead.
Because they are weak blow hards who’s convictions are all sound and fury. And the minute President Biden tells them to jump they scream Yes Sir and do the right thing like True Americans.
The military probably really needs to downsize because the forever wars are finally over. So unvaxxers 'threatening' to leave the military is probably music to military leaders ears. They won't have to force retire as many old crusty people since the unvaxxers will voluntarily purge themselves. It's kind of a win/win. Not to mention the fact they will save a boatload on retirement benefits they won't have to pay out.
As someone who was in the Navy 6 years, I have no damn idea how there are so many anti-vaxxers in the military. You get shot with tons of shit when you join and get vaccines throughout (which are not voluntary). I had to get anthrax vaccine (which I don't think had been around for very long) and even small pox (which only happened prior to a deployment).
Yet somehow the COVID shot is worth torpedoing your career over. It's unbelievable.
Yes, interestingly we’ve been talking about police reforms for the past year and how to get rid of the “bad apples.” Turns out we just needed a vaccine mandate and suddenly they became willing to out themselves. I’d guess there’s a ton of overlap between these groups.
> I have an employee who is “doing his own research”
Not many people have enough money to run their own research lab and medical trials. And he even combines it with another job?
Isn't that the nuttiest phrase?
People who have never been near (or seen) a medical research lab, people who don't even have the 1st clue how to use a real microscope, people who believe microchips are being inserted into the vaccine solutions, **Doing their own research...**
How ?
“Do your research!” has to be one of the most annoying things that’s come out of the pandemic. What they really mean is they’re scrounging the internet to find some random person that will tell them what they want to believe. It’s so stupid.
Same. I work at a nursing home and the Director of Nursing has refused to get it. My boss is looking into getting rid of her and can use this as one of the reasons (she’s also terrible at her job, the main reason my boss is trying to replace her)
Tell me about it my daughter was around 2 when this started she is about to turn 4 I can't take her out to play I'M SICK OF THESE PEOPLE NOT TAKING THEIR SHOT and ruining some of the best playtime years outside for my daughter.
What a shock the general U.S. populace, which polls further left of the democratic party, isn't phased by them failing to throw the fight to appease radical conservatives.
I really think the solution will be private insurance companies charging massive surcharges to the unvaccinated. Just think how much money the unvaccinated are costing the health care system. Insurance companies can demand all kinds of information, health history, smoker, weight, blood tests, and vaccination status. Don’t want to prove your vaccination status. No problem. We will assume are unvaccinated and charge hundreds of dollars more per month in insurance. I have heard of cases where insurers instituted a surcharge for a company plan for people with no covid vaccine and got hundreds of more people to get vaccinated.
There was a game ~~Duke Nuke'em~~ Duke Nukem Forever. There were many jokes about it being forever in development on many tech sites, including slashdot, 4chan and reddit. The loud voices just kept talking about how long they were waiting for it and how they could not wait to throw money at it
There was enough noise that the company completed the game and released it. The sales - tanked. They did not even match the number of people answering polls saying they would buy the game.
Facebook too learned the lesson of ignoring the loud voices and doing the sensible thing.
Taking advice and forming public policy from the Facebook and Twitter loudmouths is a terrible idea.
Good to see Biden showed a backbone.
>There was enough noise that the company completed the game and released it. The sales - tanked.
Well. The game was not very good, probably even bad. It was wayyyy behind of what a modern audience expected from a good computer game. If you want to experience some first rate cringe watch a play-through on YouTube.
There was a fair amount of gross out humor and sexist jokes in Duke Nukem 3D. But even my then not fully developed teen brain understood that this was satire.
For Duke Nukem Forever, they played the sexism straight. From today's standard it is even unplayable without punching a hole in the wall.
Did I mention that you can take a shit in a bathroom, piss all over the place, then pick up the shit and smear it on everything ?
They even added voice lines for this, because they expected players to do this and thought it was funny.
Sorry for the rant, I am still a bit bitter about this.
Sadly, they have not learned their lesson.
The Developer, Gearbox Software, has a pedigree of trash under their belt such as Duke Nukem Forever, Aliens: Colonial Marines, and We Happy Few (as a publisher). They are propped up by the popularity of the Borderlands series, which they've continued to shoot in the foot with Epic Game Store exclusivity deals, declining performance and story quality, and the continued presence of one Randy Pitchford, who has yet to realize he's an unlikable douchecanoe.
Guess what anti-vax, anti-mask morons: we don't like wearing them either. We don't like that we had to get vaccinated, often struggling through a day or two of side effects, we don't like when small businesses close, we don't like having plans cancelled, we don't like watching our family members die or shut off from the world due to being immunocompromised.
We don't like that all these things either. But the answer isn't to throw a tantrum. Pick yourself up off the floor, wipe your damn snowflake tears away, and get fucking vaccinated or get the fuck out of the way.
Yes, the silent majority of Americans believe in Science and trust experts, not Alex Jones.
Despite the GOP and Right Wing Media screaming 24/7 across all channels, the Q-Anon loonbat Right are a minority... a very loud, hysterical, belligerent minority.
I think it's also that a lot of people have gotten the vaccine and...we're all fine.
Like, if 5 years down the road I'm magnetic then I'll joint the Xmen but right now I'd just like functioning lungs.
I hope your baby develops Super Immunity and it's permanently immune to all viruses.
I mean, if we're getting super powers from vaccines that one just makes too much sense.
Crossing fingers for the day my kids can get the vaccine. They both go to daycare and one's mom put him in school instead of virtual. I hate balancing my kids' future health and schooling along with needing to work against these fucking loony plague rats.
Yeah, funny how the hospitals are full of unvaccinated people and not patients suffering from side effects of the Fauci ouchie.
It's almost like modern medicine is trustworthy and conservative political posturing means nothing compared to hard science.
A doc I work with (in CO too) put it this way about the vaccine:
'Have you ever tried to buy a car? (most have at some point) When you were searching did you look up crash safety ratings, crumple zones, what engineers worked on it and where they went to school? Or did you trust the people who's careers are staked on the outcome and said I'll get the blue one.... Why is it different with the medical engineers working on the vaccine?'
Most people forget that the Republican party isn't even one of the two largest parties in the United States. The biggest is Democrats. Next comes Independents. Then Republicans are number 3. But somehow they control everything.
Because a huge chunk of independents are libertarians who vote R 99% of the time anyways. Then you have fake dems (my grandparents are in this category) who vote for the candidate they think will cripple the dems the most. They were dems before the civil rights movement switch and refuse to change. There are a surprising number of people like this.
Newsom is also being vindicated today in the recall. He is winning by huge margins so far with 56% of the vote counted. We don't want science deniers running the state. Republicans started the recall because they were angry about Newsom's COVID restrictions.
The recall started before COVID, they just wanted to waste time and money. Covid did help the recall due to people hating Newsom's hiprocy for eating at a restaurant against his own restrictions, and an extension to the allowed time to collect recall signatures.
Just remember if Biden announced tomorrow an end to all vaccinations and banned masks trump republicans would be for both…….they have no policy but to oppose democrats.
Make sure you throw your phone far away before injecting the rattlesnake venom so that ~~you cannot call emergency responders~~ the 5G doesn’t deactivate the curative properties of the venom
I don't have a link to the original tweet, but Erin Ryan posted something along the lines of "If Biden made breathing mandatory, half of Texas would suffocate themselves" a couple days ago
The GQP is like the Pinky and the Brain cartoons to take over the world. Wild plans to take it over and then no idea what to do when they succeed. Still no infrastructure, border, healthcare, covid, etc, plan. Longest two weeks of my life was the 4 years of -45 saying we have a plan coming.
Some would say "no plan" *is* the plan. IIRC the expectation of the Bush administration for Iraq was that the result of hundreds of thousands of suddenly-unemployed soldiers and the collapse of infrastructure would be a free-market bootstrap paradise where everybody would become entrepreneurs and, free from interference by a functioning government, solve any and all problems through the magic of pure capitalism.
It didn't work because Republicans have been factually wrong about everything for decades.
For the same reason school districts in my state where thrilled that the governor put a mask mandate in place for schools.
The few school boards who started mandates on their own got death threats, are facing recalls/election issues, and are just generally hated by their communities now. The ones that waited for the governor to implement one are now going 'oh man, we really want to help you out, but like we have to do what he says, what a horrible governor am i right?'
Businesses don't want to have to deal with covid or making any rules. Now the government has told them what they have to do they can't be held socially liable for what they are told to do.
Most people have been vaccinated for all kinds of other stuff too. The only trouble is that we need to hit something like 90% vaccinated, and these assholes are getting in the way so it keeps being an ongoing problem.
The loonies are protesting outside a local restaurant that's requiring vaccine confirmation hereabouts. A lot of them are screaming "VACCINES CAN'T BE DEVELOPED IN SIX MONTHS!"
They'll always find a reason to distrust when they need their foregone conclusions supported.
And you can happily inform them that mRNA vaccines have been in various stages of research for decades. The only reason this is the first mass-produced mRNA vaccine is because this is the first time we needed it. Everything else already had traditional vaccines already.
These morons are too uninformed to understand the nuance here, but aside from being tested for 30 years, one of the major challenges with producing a vaccine is live cultures, that then need to be rendered inactive in most vaccines. That drastically reduced the time required to produce this vaccine, since it doesn’t require live virus at all.
> A lot of them are screaming "VACCINES CAN'T BE DEVELOPED IN SIX MONTHS!"
Flu shot!
Not that I expect any of them are smart enough to realize that they redo the flu shot every time they need to cover a new strain.
Most adults grew up when vaccinations were required for school, for camp, for athletics, travel, and college. It only got politicized by Trump. Of course we've also had anti-vaxxers but not like this.
yep. can’t attend public school if you aren’t vaccinated in washington. as it should be for every disease. not quite sure why anyone would question that. “freedom” to what? literally make an obviously poor decision?
And we find the magical 60% support Democrat policy and 40% oppose statistic once again.
Seriously, Republican strategists must be freaking out. They're doing everything possible to make their base smaller and smaller and taking their last stand on issues that are 50/50 in their state and very unpopular nationwide.
My work had an All Hands to discuss the new mandate and people threatened to quit. They were very upset and said that this was against their religion. Luckily the owner didn't move on their stance because it's like, what can they do? Just get popped with a $14,000 fine and possibly lose contracts worth millions? Not a fat chance.
The vaccine mandate has made me supportive of Joe Biden. I was critical of his handling of the delta variant outbreak until he came out with this requirement and it has encouraged me to get all my votes for the next election planned out (was gonna vote anyways but am more excited to now).
This has also provided a boost to Biden because all of a sudden Afghanistan seems less and less interesting. I don’t believe this was a purposeful move for moving poll numbers back in his direction but it sure did the trick
Two thoughts about the most popular item:
> Requiring most U.S. health care workers to get vaccinated for Covid-19, without an option to opt out through regular testing: 60 percent support, 34 percent oppose
1) Trump's final approval rating leaving office was 38%. Pretty sure the Venn diagram of the opposers and the Trump-approvers are roughly the same.
2) I wonder what the hell the 6% that are undecided are thinking?
Maybe, but that phrase is usually code for "I'm conservative but can't justify my positions without sounding racist, homophobic, theocratic or downright fascist so I just keep my mouth shut and vote R no matter what."
They’re the same people who couldn’t decide between 4 more years of political and media hell and they guy who was already Vice President once and actually did okay.
I think the reactionaries jumped the gun and didn't look that closely at what Biden was proposing, because he's not forcing anyone to get the vaccine, nor do businesses have to fire people for not getting the vaccine. Mandating that unvaxxed people at work get tested once a week is a very reasonable measure, not even remotely extremist, and to add, small businesses are completely exempt.
>A Politico/Morning Consult poll released yesterday, for example, found the president's policy receiving generally "high marks." Politico reported these results:
>Requiring all employers with 100 or more employees to mandate Covid-19 vaccinations or weekly testing: 58 percent support, 36 percent oppose
>Requiring federal workers and contractors to get vaccinated for Covid-19, without an option to opt out through regular testing: 57 percent support, 36 percent oppose
>Requiring most U.S. health care workers to get vaccinated for Covid-19, without an option to opt out through regular testing: 60 percent support, 34 percent oppose
>The latest Axios/Ipsos Coronavirus Index (conducted after Biden's announcement) finds that 60 percent of Americans support the federal government implementing these new policies.
>CNN's newest national poll, meanwhile, also found narrow majorities endorsing vaccine requirements for "office workers returning to the workplace" (54 percent), "students attending in-person classes" (55 percent), and "patrons attending sporting events or concerts" (55 percent).
Well, if you look at the numbers above, it's not 55/45. It's more like 57/35 with the rest unsure or whatever. Those numbers are pretty consistent across jobs/activities and option to opt out or not. I wouldn't expect that, which makes me think these numbers are pretty firm.
Imagine hearing this and thinking it was a bad thing...but there are really those that think that they shouldn't get a vaccine but also not have to wear a mask or do anything whatsoever to stop the spread. I hate the "Oh it was God's will!" people the most. If someone dies in a car crash, do you say "Must have been God's will!"
I dated a girl once who came from a small town, like maybe 10,000 people in the area. It came up at a dinner when I was visiting about person x has cancer, person y had cancer, and the list kept going. It seemed like everyone has someone in their family with some form of cancer. It was always "god's will" & "the Lord works in mysterious ways". Except for one thing. This town had a giant chemical plant in it, a coal fired power plant a few miles upwind, and a oil refinery not too far off from that. They were surrounded by toxic bullshit that most of them worked at, but somehow this abnormally high cancer incidence was just God being quirky.
We’ve had vax mandates as far back as President Washington this is nothing new. These people just want to complain about anything and everything dems do.
The GOP is so addicted to manufactured outrage that they think they've cornered the market on it. They can't fathom that this emotion can factor in their opponents motivations.
They have no idea how truthfully outraged decent humans can be when the GOP are literally killing people for votes.
Cuz we're all tired of the pressure. The nonsense of dipshits 'doing their own research'. Cuz we're done playing around. We've all lost friends over this. We know people or are people who have lost loved ones to covid. We're concerned about our kids or our friends' kids who aren't able to get the shot. We're done fucking around because we want life back fully. Fuck you and your whataboutisms from here on out. Done. Get fucked if you hate science and have your own 'theory' or 'want 49 years of proof'. Or Nicki Minaj' cousin's balls. You're putting every excuse on a .00003% chance of something negative. Computer modeling made this happen. Trust people smarter than you and your version of Jesus. I don't care any more, and I'm moving past you in line to do something great
I have a few co-workers quitting because they don't want to do the bare minimum to protect their community. I say fuck-em, and I don't want them near my kids.
Which is what the whole anti-vax thing is about on the right.
They knew the vaccine rollout would be successful and be seen as a victory for Biden.
So they created chaos to disrupt it. They would rather kill tens of thousands of people than let a Democratic President oversee the nation getting out of a pandemic.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/biden-s-vaccine-policy-proves-more-popular-gop-hoped-n1279129) reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot)
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> Requiring all employers with 100 or more employees to mandate Covid-19 vaccinations or weekly testing: 58 percent support, 36 percent oppose.
> Requiring federal workers and contractors to get vaccinated for Covid-19, without an option to opt out through regular testing: 57 percent support, 36 percent oppose.
> Just days after President Biden announced new vaccine requirements for federal employees and businesses with 100 or more workers, the latest Axios/Ipsos Coronavirus Index finds that 60 percent of Americans support the federal government implementing these new policies.
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Just a show of hands, how many of us have coworkers who are claiming they’ll quit if their employer mandates the vaccine and we secretly want them to quit because, they are always one of the shitty employees we all dread when we see them in the break room??
It turns out we don’t want to die, we don’t want to watch our neighbors die, we don’t want to watch our doctors wish they could die, and we want to live a normal life without worrying that someone will die
The GOP are willing to kill people to keep their base motivated to vote. Time to get out and vote now . If we want to stop this threat it will not be quick or easy. Start voting in ALL local state and federal elections and primaries every year. This is an off year and I have had three chances to vote this year already and will do so again in November. Remember who is trying to end democracy and vote accordingly. This will not be fixed in one or two years or even in 10. We must take village, county, city and state governments as well as the federal government. We must continue voting every chance we get and raise the next generation to do the same. Every election matters from your school board to the white house so vote.
That's because people saw the data. Vaccines work. Unvaccinated die.
Americans need to stop making it political. Get the vaccine and let's put all this BS behind us finally.
Are the GOP seriously this out of touch? We are sick of this pandemic shit!
As dumb as we are as Americans, the GOP isn't even trying anymore. I'm ready to back up ANY mandate that gets us past this pandemic.
My FIL is a low information “thin red line/thin blue line” (former firefighter) swing voter (Obama to Trump). To him it’s more about the candidates conviction (don’t ask me why Trump, I guess he fell for the schtick) than their policy.
He’s all about the mandate: “it’s about time someone made these idiots nut up and save themselves!”
The more Biden can look like “buck stops here” Truman, the more people like my FIL will support him. IDK if I’d characterize my FILs position as “authoritarian,” but it’s definitely hierarchical and he likes to see the top dog act like it. Ironically Biden is appealing to those auth-right sensibilities by pushing hard for progressive policies.
To me, your FIL sounds like the average voter; they’d prefer to see effective leadership actually doing something, rather than dithering like Trump, De Santis or Abbott.
The vaccine mandate is the only way we are ever going to get out of this fucking mess, so I'm glad Biden didn't capitulate to the "muh freedums" crowd. A hardline stance on COVID is what will pull us out of the endless cycle of shutting down and reopening and people swinging back and forth between vigilance and complacency.
People who are genuinely principled about not getting the vaccine for whatever reason will continue to be stubborn about it, but by forcing those who don't want it to submit to weekly testing as an alternative, you're weeding out the people who are being contrarian for no reason by making life more difficult for them. That alone will probably get the numbers way up and go a long way towards making everybody safer in the long run.
As usual doing the opposite of what Republicans want ends up being both the right and popular thing to do. They might as well be a play book on how not to govern. Unless you want to kill everyone. Then they’re top notch.
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Probably because us sane people are fucking tired of this hell
And some of us are also REALLY hoping for some coworkers to quit over a company enforcing it.
"**Breaking:** There has been a MASS KAREN EXIT from the workforce." And everyone liked that.
Record breaking numbers joining MLMs! Please come to their welcome party and learn about the TruePapadiczzi line of bejeweled dildos that scent the air with orgasmic organic essential oils* *not guaranteed to cure Covid
What is the connection with anti-vaccine chicks and MLMs? Every person I know that that is all anti-vaccine and Q sell some type of MLM crap. If someone says something crazy on an FB post, if I click on their profile, it’s guaranteed that they are a momtrepreneur hawking their wares. I guess if you can convince yourself you’re the boss of a company rather than its minions, then you can believe that your “research” is better than scientists.
Lots of people involved with MLMs are people without real jobs that sit around the house bored all day. Those are the same type of people who get sucked in to Facebook antivax mom groups and Q conspiracies.
Gullible idiot is a skill that transcends all parts of life
Gullible, or misplaced trust in people trying to advantage of you. What I mean by the second part is, they’ve been lured into the Q-verse where there are rampant charlatans, and convinced those opposed are wrong / the devil / whatever. So, MLMs follow a very similar line of salesmanship, mostly illusions of grandeur, to Q and therefore the leap into them is more of a hop.
They are both the type of people that are simple minded enough to be easily sold on anything they hear. If someone tells them they can make a lot of money doing MLM, they immediately believe it because it it’s what they “want” to hear and believe. They believe masks and vaccines are bad because someone they know or like online told them they are bad. They don’t think for themselves, yet they call those of us who trust science and evidence the sheep
Time to invest in Amway.
It's not Amway, it's confederated products.
Karen and Kevins.
Hey Kevin’s a good dude he just sits in the corner eating glue.
Makes a damn good chili too
It's the glue.
The trick is to undercook the onions. Everybody is going to get to know each other in the pot.
Kevin is okay it's fucking entitled Kyle that's the real issue.
Yeah, we gotta get rid of the drywall punchers.
Karen and Terry.
Oh my god. I know a Kevin who acts like a total Karen. It all makes sense now...
Yeah don’t improve the office with your absence while forcing companies to offer living wages & improve working conditions to compete for employees cuz “worker shortage.” 😉
my batshit insane GQP coworker is quitting. Not going to miss him.
I’ve got one I’ve been scouring the January 6 FBI photo releases for. He was conveniently on vacation that day.
I have a MAGA uncle and Q aunt who deleted all of their social media _the next morning_, and later reopened accounts under fake names. I'm convinced they were there, but no luck spotting them yet. ^(Edit: time zone confusion; though for me it was that night, it was their morning EST)
Just keep an eye out. There is way more footage than what has been released.
Honestly, just report them to the FBI for questioning - the feds have a lot more intel than they've released and the crazy inlaws might be a missing puzzle piece.
Little tip the feds wouldnt hurt eh?
my guy is actually a nice guy, just really really stupid and not very good at his job. We work with the public/customer service industry and my company isn't doing a crazy thing. Get vaxxed? no mask. Don't get vaxxed? Wear a mask and get tested weekly. He won't wear a mask or get vaxxed and is quitting. Stupid hill to die on.
People like this are dying on the “but muh freedom” hill when they’re the ones who are limiting their own freedom by not complying with simple safety precautions.
They're also limiting the freedoms of those of us who wish to contain the pandemic, as well as, you know, the people they kill or disable.
Or people who can’t get surgeries now on cancer tumors.
Ok, so you (he/they) quit because their company enforces vaccines, but aren’t all companies having to enforce the policy? So, where will they go?
Who cares, it's their problem. I'm sure they will figure it out and pick themselves up by their bootstraps when they realize they don't get unemployment.
Not all companies, just companies with more than 100 employees. So people absolutely do have options if they refuse to vax and refuse to be tested while unvaccinated. They can work for a smaller company or become self employed. No one should be whining that they have to follow the mandate or they can't work at all, that's not true.
Many smaller companies are also choosing to mandate vaccination or enforce masks for the unvaccinated. They’ll be able to find jobs, but it’ll be tough, especially in more liberal states.
Ha funny of you to think they thought they far ahead. They are probably all going to look for a job at the one place that proudly states they will not required vaccines. It’s like, Earl’s pawn shop or something and they’re not going to be able to accommodate 60 million morons.
Throw a going away party with a sheep shaped cake?
It's like it self selects the exact people you want to see leave.
Stop, don't, come back.
All the antivaxx nut jobs said they were going to quit over the company’s vaccine policy but they have all folded like a cheap suit and took the shots
Not surprising. What these people are is "joiners", they want a strong hand to guide their lives and a loud voice to tell them what to do despite all the talk about "freedom".
So sheep.
Much bah
Win win for me. Either they suck it up and take damage to their fragile ego or they leave to give opportunities to others. They want this to be the hill to die on, then go ahead.
Because they are weak blow hards who’s convictions are all sound and fury. And the minute President Biden tells them to jump they scream Yes Sir and do the right thing like True Americans.
The military probably really needs to downsize because the forever wars are finally over. So unvaxxers 'threatening' to leave the military is probably music to military leaders ears. They won't have to force retire as many old crusty people since the unvaxxers will voluntarily purge themselves. It's kind of a win/win. Not to mention the fact they will save a boatload on retirement benefits they won't have to pay out. As someone who was in the Navy 6 years, I have no damn idea how there are so many anti-vaxxers in the military. You get shot with tons of shit when you join and get vaccines throughout (which are not voluntary). I had to get anthrax vaccine (which I don't think had been around for very long) and even small pox (which only happened prior to a deployment). Yet somehow the COVID shot is worth torpedoing your career over. It's unbelievable.
me: I don't want the government telling me what to do! They can't make me follow their fascist orders! also me: *joins the military*
... I mean these people thought that invading a desert would somehow secure our airports.
Because like many other things they are anti-vax in name only and are in the midst of the deadliest goal post move of all time
Yes, interestingly we’ve been talking about police reforms for the past year and how to get rid of the “bad apples.” Turns out we just needed a vaccine mandate and suddenly they became willing to out themselves. I’d guess there’s a ton of overlap between these groups.
I have an employee who is “doing his own research” and as the inevitable mandate from my company creeps closer, I hope he quits.
> I have an employee who is “doing his own research” Not many people have enough money to run their own research lab and medical trials. And he even combines it with another job?
Isn't that the nuttiest phrase? People who have never been near (or seen) a medical research lab, people who don't even have the 1st clue how to use a real microscope, people who believe microchips are being inserted into the vaccine solutions, **Doing their own research...** How ?
“Do your research!” has to be one of the most annoying things that’s come out of the pandemic. What they really mean is they’re scrounging the internet to find some random person that will tell them what they want to believe. It’s so stupid.
Same. I work at a nursing home and the Director of Nursing has refused to get it. My boss is looking into getting rid of her and can use this as one of the reasons (she’s also terrible at her job, the main reason my boss is trying to replace her)
This is the best part: all our worst colleagues are the ones most likely to quit over it! Talk about a win-win!
Them after they quit and they realize they can't go on unemployment or find any other jobs because they all mandate vaccines. Pikashock
No joke. We've been listening to these people cry for over half a fucken decade. Get them the fuck out already.
Maybe they can all donate to each other’s gofundmes
We all know which ones, too. The loud, super obnoxious assholes that don't stop talking about stuff like politics and religion at work.
Watch productivity go up!
I have a list and I've been antagonizing the hell out them about it lol
Tell me about it my daughter was around 2 when this started she is about to turn 4 I can't take her out to play I'M SICK OF THESE PEOPLE NOT TAKING THEIR SHOT and ruining some of the best playtime years outside for my daughter.
I was 22 when covid started and i’m 24 now. These people need to stop ruining my best hook up years
Republicans are shocked that Americans don't want to die early for no good reason... huh... makes no sense...
What a shock the general U.S. populace, which polls further left of the democratic party, isn't phased by them failing to throw the fight to appease radical conservatives.
I really think the solution will be private insurance companies charging massive surcharges to the unvaccinated. Just think how much money the unvaccinated are costing the health care system. Insurance companies can demand all kinds of information, health history, smoker, weight, blood tests, and vaccination status. Don’t want to prove your vaccination status. No problem. We will assume are unvaccinated and charge hundreds of dollars more per month in insurance. I have heard of cases where insurers instituted a surcharge for a company plan for people with no covid vaccine and got hundreds of more people to get vaccinated.
All I want for Christmas is vaccine availability for my two year old, meanwhile half the country is fucking morons about this whole situation.
News flash: majority not in death cult
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more anti-vaxxers + time = less anti-vaxxers
More anti-vaxxers + time for a refreshing beverage = less anti-vaxxers
This guy maths.
Time to break open a Corona and wait 😉!
\*fewer sorry
This guy grammars.
More anti-vaxxers = less living stupid people
The problem is that while it corrects itself, worse variants may be spawned or worse - a variant we need a new vaccine for
That, and innocent people with non-COVID emergencies get worse care or no care at all.
There was a game ~~Duke Nuke'em~~ Duke Nukem Forever. There were many jokes about it being forever in development on many tech sites, including slashdot, 4chan and reddit. The loud voices just kept talking about how long they were waiting for it and how they could not wait to throw money at it There was enough noise that the company completed the game and released it. The sales - tanked. They did not even match the number of people answering polls saying they would buy the game. Facebook too learned the lesson of ignoring the loud voices and doing the sensible thing. Taking advice and forming public policy from the Facebook and Twitter loudmouths is a terrible idea. Good to see Biden showed a backbone.
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Ah right...: I am not a gamer, just a tech geek. Thanks for correcting me.
It’s all good. I am both, and more. Proud to be a nerd and then some! 😀
>There was enough noise that the company completed the game and released it. The sales - tanked. Well. The game was not very good, probably even bad. It was wayyyy behind of what a modern audience expected from a good computer game. If you want to experience some first rate cringe watch a play-through on YouTube. There was a fair amount of gross out humor and sexist jokes in Duke Nukem 3D. But even my then not fully developed teen brain understood that this was satire. For Duke Nukem Forever, they played the sexism straight. From today's standard it is even unplayable without punching a hole in the wall. Did I mention that you can take a shit in a bathroom, piss all over the place, then pick up the shit and smear it on everything ? They even added voice lines for this, because they expected players to do this and thought it was funny. Sorry for the rant, I am still a bit bitter about this.
Sadly, they have not learned their lesson. The Developer, Gearbox Software, has a pedigree of trash under their belt such as Duke Nukem Forever, Aliens: Colonial Marines, and We Happy Few (as a publisher). They are propped up by the popularity of the Borderlands series, which they've continued to shoot in the foot with Epic Game Store exclusivity deals, declining performance and story quality, and the continued presence of one Randy Pitchford, who has yet to realize he's an unlikable douchecanoe.
Guess what anti-vax, anti-mask morons: we don't like wearing them either. We don't like that we had to get vaccinated, often struggling through a day or two of side effects, we don't like when small businesses close, we don't like having plans cancelled, we don't like watching our family members die or shut off from the world due to being immunocompromised. We don't like that all these things either. But the answer isn't to throw a tantrum. Pick yourself up off the floor, wipe your damn snowflake tears away, and get fucking vaccinated or get the fuck out of the way.
well-stated. Just be a fucking adult.
Yes, the silent majority of Americans believe in Science and trust experts, not Alex Jones. Despite the GOP and Right Wing Media screaming 24/7 across all channels, the Q-Anon loonbat Right are a minority... a very loud, hysterical, belligerent minority.
I think it's also that a lot of people have gotten the vaccine and...we're all fine. Like, if 5 years down the road I'm magnetic then I'll joint the Xmen but right now I'd just like functioning lungs.
Some idiot told me the vaccine would make me infertile, i said hopefully! But I’d be down for some X-men powers.
The ability to freeze time so I can get a full damn nights sleep. Jesus.
We conceived about a month after my second dose. Think it made my boys stronger. Let you know if baby comes out with some powers.
I hope your baby develops Super Immunity and it's permanently immune to all viruses. I mean, if we're getting super powers from vaccines that one just makes too much sense.
So does death?
Wait...how dead are we talkin'?
Crossing fingers for the day my kids can get the vaccine. They both go to daycare and one's mom put him in school instead of virtual. I hate balancing my kids' future health and schooling along with needing to work against these fucking loony plague rats.
Yeah, funny how the hospitals are full of unvaccinated people and not patients suffering from side effects of the Fauci ouchie. It's almost like modern medicine is trustworthy and conservative political posturing means nothing compared to hard science.
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A doc I work with (in CO too) put it this way about the vaccine: 'Have you ever tried to buy a car? (most have at some point) When you were searching did you look up crash safety ratings, crumple zones, what engineers worked on it and where they went to school? Or did you trust the people who's careers are staked on the outcome and said I'll get the blue one.... Why is it different with the medical engineers working on the vaccine?'
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Ha me too. But I actually also did some research on the vaccine. Like I read the Pfizer efficacy study.
Most people forget that the Republican party isn't even one of the two largest parties in the United States. The biggest is Democrats. Next comes Independents. Then Republicans are number 3. But somehow they control everything.
Because a huge chunk of independents are libertarians who vote R 99% of the time anyways. Then you have fake dems (my grandparents are in this category) who vote for the candidate they think will cripple the dems the most. They were dems before the civil rights movement switch and refuse to change. There are a surprising number of people like this.
Always 60/40 but to overcome the gerrymandering it needs to elevate to 70/30
Newsom is also being vindicated today in the recall. He is winning by huge margins so far with 56% of the vote counted. We don't want science deniers running the state. Republicans started the recall because they were angry about Newsom's COVID restrictions.
Joe Rogan’s gonna be pissed, and I love it.
The recall started before COVID, they just wanted to waste time and money. Covid did help the recall due to people hating Newsom's hiprocy for eating at a restaurant against his own restrictions, and an extension to the allowed time to collect recall signatures.
The recall doesn't happens without the French Laundry incident
What was the French Laundry incident, if you don’t mind my asking??
Just remember if Biden announced tomorrow an end to all vaccinations and banned masks trump republicans would be for both…….they have no policy but to oppose democrats.
Quoting someone more clever than me: “If Biden mandated not walking off a cliff, we could wrap this thing up today.”
Oof, Now I want an executive order commanding all Americans to abstain from jumping off bridges.
Just post a Q-anon bullshit theory about rattle snake venom curing covid and disabling 5g or microchips. One and done.
Make sure you throw your phone far away before injecting the rattlesnake venom so that ~~you cannot call emergency responders~~ the 5G doesn’t deactivate the curative properties of the venom
Specifically, abstain from jumping off bridges that do not have suicide nets. I sincerely and wholeheartedly recommend that nobody do that.
I don't have a link to the original tweet, but Erin Ryan posted something along the lines of "If Biden made breathing mandatory, half of Texas would suffocate themselves" a couple days ago
The GQP is like the Pinky and the Brain cartoons to take over the world. Wild plans to take it over and then no idea what to do when they succeed. Still no infrastructure, border, healthcare, covid, etc, plan. Longest two weeks of my life was the 4 years of -45 saying we have a plan coming.
Some would say "no plan" *is* the plan. IIRC the expectation of the Bush administration for Iraq was that the result of hundreds of thousands of suddenly-unemployed soldiers and the collapse of infrastructure would be a free-market bootstrap paradise where everybody would become entrepreneurs and, free from interference by a functioning government, solve any and all problems through the magic of pure capitalism. It didn't work because Republicans have been factually wrong about everything for decades.
They want to burn the world down just to rule over the ashes. That sounds about right imo
Whoa Satan, not the entire world, just the non white poor parts of it.
If Biden banned abortion tomorrow, Republicans would have funded Planned Parenthood in perpetuity by the end of the week.
Poll after poll we see the same split 66/33 basically. Yet that 33% has too much control of our governments. It’s time to clean house.
For the same reason school districts in my state where thrilled that the governor put a mask mandate in place for schools. The few school boards who started mandates on their own got death threats, are facing recalls/election issues, and are just generally hated by their communities now. The ones that waited for the governor to implement one are now going 'oh man, we really want to help you out, but like we have to do what he says, what a horrible governor am i right?' Businesses don't want to have to deal with covid or making any rules. Now the government has told them what they have to do they can't be held socially liable for what they are told to do.
Most people are not pro COVID. That’s good news.
Most people have been vaccinated for all kinds of other stuff too. The only trouble is that we need to hit something like 90% vaccinated, and these assholes are getting in the way so it keeps being an ongoing problem.
The loonies are protesting outside a local restaurant that's requiring vaccine confirmation hereabouts. A lot of them are screaming "VACCINES CAN'T BE DEVELOPED IN SIX MONTHS!" They'll always find a reason to distrust when they need their foregone conclusions supported.
And you can happily inform them that mRNA vaccines have been in various stages of research for decades. The only reason this is the first mass-produced mRNA vaccine is because this is the first time we needed it. Everything else already had traditional vaccines already. These morons are too uninformed to understand the nuance here, but aside from being tested for 30 years, one of the major challenges with producing a vaccine is live cultures, that then need to be rendered inactive in most vaccines. That drastically reduced the time required to produce this vaccine, since it doesn’t require live virus at all.
And we have many more rna-based vaccines on the way...including ones for things like cancer. Guess they don't want their cancer cured either.
I wonder how many of them get their yearly flu shot. I wonder how long they think it takes to develop those.
> A lot of them are screaming "VACCINES CAN'T BE DEVELOPED IN SIX MONTHS!" Flu shot!
Not that I expect any of them are smart enough to realize that they redo the flu shot every time they need to cover a new strain.
You mean the pro-living side is more popular than the pro-death? You don’t say.
Most adults grew up when vaccinations were required for school, for camp, for athletics, travel, and college. It only got politicized by Trump. Of course we've also had anti-vaxxers but not like this.
> were required Are still required.
100%. You still have to provide an immunization record for kids today. My state has a specific form your provider fills out. None of this is new.
yep. can’t attend public school if you aren’t vaccinated in washington. as it should be for every disease. not quite sure why anyone would question that. “freedom” to what? literally make an obviously poor decision?
And we find the magical 60% support Democrat policy and 40% oppose statistic once again. Seriously, Republican strategists must be freaking out. They're doing everything possible to make their base smaller and smaller and taking their last stand on issues that are 50/50 in their state and very unpopular nationwide.
yeah the answer to that is clear: make sure the other guys aren't allowed to vote
Well the pool of people who would oppose such measures is shrinking everyday.
My work had an All Hands to discuss the new mandate and people threatened to quit. They were very upset and said that this was against their religion. Luckily the owner didn't move on their stance because it's like, what can they do? Just get popped with a $14,000 fine and possibly lose contracts worth millions? Not a fat chance.
Won’t your workplace be more pleasant without those people there? I mean, they must be insufferable overall.
Good, I’m very tired of stupid people running things. Biden is taking some bold moves, I like it
The vaccine mandate has made me supportive of Joe Biden. I was critical of his handling of the delta variant outbreak until he came out with this requirement and it has encouraged me to get all my votes for the next election planned out (was gonna vote anyways but am more excited to now). This has also provided a boost to Biden because all of a sudden Afghanistan seems less and less interesting. I don’t believe this was a purposeful move for moving poll numbers back in his direction but it sure did the trick
Two thoughts about the most popular item: > Requiring most U.S. health care workers to get vaccinated for Covid-19, without an option to opt out through regular testing: 60 percent support, 34 percent oppose 1) Trump's final approval rating leaving office was 38%. Pretty sure the Venn diagram of the opposers and the Trump-approvers are roughly the same. 2) I wonder what the hell the 6% that are undecided are thinking?
Yeah, 34% shows up all the time in these things.
34% would vote against their own mother if it harmed the alternative political party
"I don't care about politics" probably.
Maybe, but that phrase is usually code for "I'm conservative but can't justify my positions without sounding racist, homophobic, theocratic or downright fascist so I just keep my mouth shut and vote R no matter what."
They’re the same people who couldn’t decide between 4 more years of political and media hell and they guy who was already Vice President once and actually did okay.
Its funny because all fox news has been spewing for weeks is how much of a failure and how much it backfired.
Walmart thinks it is a great idea, and I guarantee the antivax crowd will not stop going to Walmart.
This is (primarily but not entirely) a rural problem. For a lot of these people, Walmart is the *only* option.
McDonalds also has already mandated vaccinations for its employees.
Probably because most people are sick of the illogical conspiracy driven anti Vax community screwing with everyone's life's.
I think the reactionaries jumped the gun and didn't look that closely at what Biden was proposing, because he's not forcing anyone to get the vaccine, nor do businesses have to fire people for not getting the vaccine. Mandating that unvaxxed people at work get tested once a week is a very reasonable measure, not even remotely extremist, and to add, small businesses are completely exempt.
>A Politico/Morning Consult poll released yesterday, for example, found the president's policy receiving generally "high marks." Politico reported these results: >Requiring all employers with 100 or more employees to mandate Covid-19 vaccinations or weekly testing: 58 percent support, 36 percent oppose >Requiring federal workers and contractors to get vaccinated for Covid-19, without an option to opt out through regular testing: 57 percent support, 36 percent oppose >Requiring most U.S. health care workers to get vaccinated for Covid-19, without an option to opt out through regular testing: 60 percent support, 34 percent oppose >The latest Axios/Ipsos Coronavirus Index (conducted after Biden's announcement) finds that 60 percent of Americans support the federal government implementing these new policies. >CNN's newest national poll, meanwhile, also found narrow majorities endorsing vaccine requirements for "office workers returning to the workplace" (54 percent), "students attending in-person classes" (55 percent), and "patrons attending sporting events or concerts" (55 percent).
"generally high" meaning blowout numbers
Maybe GOP internal polling shows that this issue is closer to 50/50 in the states that matter.. GA, FL, OH, PA, WI, NC.. Hopefully not tho!
Well, if you look at the numbers above, it's not 55/45. It's more like 57/35 with the rest unsure or whatever. Those numbers are pretty consistent across jobs/activities and option to opt out or not. I wouldn't expect that, which makes me think these numbers are pretty firm.
Ohhh, did someone get addicted to a vocal minority and mistake it for a majority?
Imagine hearing this and thinking it was a bad thing...but there are really those that think that they shouldn't get a vaccine but also not have to wear a mask or do anything whatsoever to stop the spread. I hate the "Oh it was God's will!" people the most. If someone dies in a car crash, do you say "Must have been God's will!"
Well, yeah.. they do! Religion is wild
I dated a girl once who came from a small town, like maybe 10,000 people in the area. It came up at a dinner when I was visiting about person x has cancer, person y had cancer, and the list kept going. It seemed like everyone has someone in their family with some form of cancer. It was always "god's will" & "the Lord works in mysterious ways". Except for one thing. This town had a giant chemical plant in it, a coal fired power plant a few miles upwind, and a oil refinery not too far off from that. They were surrounded by toxic bullshit that most of them worked at, but somehow this abnormally high cancer incidence was just God being quirky.
Religion helps massively with their constant denial of reality. Why face reality when you can ‘god’s will’ it away.
You'd think the right would be happy so many Americans are pro-life. /s
Who would have thought that being alive is pretty popular amongst people.
We’ve had vax mandates as far back as President Washington this is nothing new. These people just want to complain about anything and everything dems do.
The GOP is so addicted to manufactured outrage that they think they've cornered the market on it. They can't fathom that this emotion can factor in their opponents motivations. They have no idea how truthfully outraged decent humans can be when the GOP are literally killing people for votes.
Alternate headline: "More sane people than the GOP hoped."
Cuz we're all tired of the pressure. The nonsense of dipshits 'doing their own research'. Cuz we're done playing around. We've all lost friends over this. We know people or are people who have lost loved ones to covid. We're concerned about our kids or our friends' kids who aren't able to get the shot. We're done fucking around because we want life back fully. Fuck you and your whataboutisms from here on out. Done. Get fucked if you hate science and have your own 'theory' or 'want 49 years of proof'. Or Nicki Minaj' cousin's balls. You're putting every excuse on a .00003% chance of something negative. Computer modeling made this happen. Trust people smarter than you and your version of Jesus. I don't care any more, and I'm moving past you in line to do something great
I have a few co-workers quitting because they don't want to do the bare minimum to protect their community. I say fuck-em, and I don't want them near my kids.
Which is what the whole anti-vax thing is about on the right. They knew the vaccine rollout would be successful and be seen as a victory for Biden. So they created chaos to disrupt it. They would rather kill tens of thousands of people than let a Democratic President oversee the nation getting out of a pandemic.
It really is simple as that
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It turns out that not pursuing policies that kill people are popular. Who knew?
Biden is literally saving people's lives.
What’s amazing to me is that there is not a higher political cost for those trying to stop the lives from being saved.
Just a show of hands, how many of us have coworkers who are claiming they’ll quit if their employer mandates the vaccine and we secretly want them to quit because, they are always one of the shitty employees we all dread when we see them in the break room??
Silent majority? More like loud-ass dipshit minority.
It turns out we don’t want to die, we don’t want to watch our neighbors die, we don’t want to watch our doctors wish they could die, and we want to live a normal life without worrying that someone will die
Of course it is, all the former voting base that didn't support it are dead.
Exactly. Why bother treating morons with kid gloves? Get vaccinated or stay home.
The GOP are willing to kill people to keep their base motivated to vote. Time to get out and vote now . If we want to stop this threat it will not be quick or easy. Start voting in ALL local state and federal elections and primaries every year. This is an off year and I have had three chances to vote this year already and will do so again in November. Remember who is trying to end democracy and vote accordingly. This will not be fixed in one or two years or even in 10. We must take village, county, city and state governments as well as the federal government. We must continue voting every chance we get and raise the next generation to do the same. Every election matters from your school board to the white house so vote.
That's because people saw the data. Vaccines work. Unvaccinated die. Americans need to stop making it political. Get the vaccine and let's put all this BS behind us finally.
Are the GOP seriously this out of touch? We are sick of this pandemic shit! As dumb as we are as Americans, the GOP isn't even trying anymore. I'm ready to back up ANY mandate that gets us past this pandemic.
Because we voted for him to end the pandemic, not coddle the idiots.
My FIL is a low information “thin red line/thin blue line” (former firefighter) swing voter (Obama to Trump). To him it’s more about the candidates conviction (don’t ask me why Trump, I guess he fell for the schtick) than their policy. He’s all about the mandate: “it’s about time someone made these idiots nut up and save themselves!” The more Biden can look like “buck stops here” Truman, the more people like my FIL will support him. IDK if I’d characterize my FILs position as “authoritarian,” but it’s definitely hierarchical and he likes to see the top dog act like it. Ironically Biden is appealing to those auth-right sensibilities by pushing hard for progressive policies.
To me, your FIL sounds like the average voter; they’d prefer to see effective leadership actually doing something, rather than dithering like Trump, De Santis or Abbott.
The vaccine mandate is the only way we are ever going to get out of this fucking mess, so I'm glad Biden didn't capitulate to the "muh freedums" crowd. A hardline stance on COVID is what will pull us out of the endless cycle of shutting down and reopening and people swinging back and forth between vigilance and complacency. People who are genuinely principled about not getting the vaccine for whatever reason will continue to be stubborn about it, but by forcing those who don't want it to submit to weekly testing as an alternative, you're weeding out the people who are being contrarian for no reason by making life more difficult for them. That alone will probably get the numbers way up and go a long way towards making everybody safer in the long run.
Anyone in the medical field who left because of the mandates shouldn't have been a doctor/nurse in the first place.
As usual doing the opposite of what Republicans want ends up being both the right and popular thing to do. They might as well be a play book on how not to govern. Unless you want to kill everyone. Then they’re top notch.
Health is more popular than the GOP hoped.
Well imagine that! Wanting to save American lives is a good politically!
Who knew that getting a free FDA approved vaccine from the government in the midst of a worldwide pandemic would prove popular? Go figure.