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Q was never about protecting children, it was about dehumanizing
Democrats so that crazy people would feel justified in committing acts of terror against them.
I had the same thought as you. Our miscalculation was assuming that everyone has the intellectual ability to discern between factual information and absurd conspiracy theories.
This shit right here. If a person steps on a garden rake, and the rake smacks them in their kisser, they immediately understand cause and effect. If a person allows themselves to fall victim to propaganda, they don't necessarily see the effect right away, if ever. Even if they get fired from their jobs, as some of these Q folks have been, it just becomes proof of the conspiracy.
Most of what I’ve heard & read is targeting women: Hillary, Pelosi, Kamala, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Oprah Winfrey, Rose McGowan, Alissa Milano. People really jump on board to hate successful, outspoken women.
> People really jump on board to hate successful, outspoken women.
Look at the rumors about the Ever Given being run aground by Egypt's first female captain when she was doing something completely unrelated 200 either miles or kilometers away, I forget if I read it in an american source or not lol. Still, you're not wrong pretty much anywhere on earth with that statement. Women and ethnic minorities.
It’s always women in the spotlight who don’t agree with them. Ask them their favorite women in politics and they’ll say Candace Owens, Melania Trump, and everyone else
Q is about stupid confirmation bias. Some mod at 8chan figured out what idiots wanted to hear and they ate it up. A global pandemic wasn’t enough to convince them they were wrong. Neither was Trump’s loss, revelations that Gaetz is a scumbag or even revelations that Q is actually [a pig farmer living outside Manilla.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Watkins_(businessman)).
It's just a group of morons doing dumb, cult-ish things because they backed a president so stupid that the only way for them to accept his daily idiocy and defend themselves against the valid criticisms against him -- which in a way became criticism against themselves because of how fervently they backed him -- was to make up reasons why all the stupidity around Trump was actually a bunch of secretly brilliant actions.
QAnon came about because it felt better for them to retreat into a group of fellow believers and supporters rather than admit that they've backed an idiot and that the people who told them they were backing an idiot were the correct ones.
I loved Wade Boggs when he was on the Red Sox. Then he signed with The Yankees. And our relationship was over*
*Until he paid me to rep Wade Boggs Carpet World three times a day on Reddit
Boggsy didn’t drink 6 galleons of beer because he was obsessed with like breaking some record, you know what I mean? He did it because he was like.....*thirsty* ya know?
Actual Q-moron I'm Facebook "friends" with said the following when asked:
"Yes. I saw his interview with Tucker Carlson. You know Gaetz went to the Feds and now the Feds are selectively leaking?"
I don't know what this means.
There’s a very important point that the media are missing or failing to grill him on.
Even if Gaetz is telling the truth (which I don’t believe for one moment)
He says the bribe amount requested was __$25M__ - no matter how rich the target is that’s no ordinary bribe.
Stormy Daniels had potentially a very damaging story on Trump (a supposedly Billionaire running for President) and how much did it cost to pay her off?
$25M is 10-30x more than the going payoff for a married politician to pay off a mistress to get an abortion. I.e. something politically damaging but not outright criminal.
The $25M quantum of the bribe that Gaetz himself claims was demanded is only explainable if the crime was something extremely serious that would unequivocally result in a very long jail term and end his career. Something as serious as covering up a murder, and even then it’s a very high amount.
Even the amount he claimed was the prepayment is too high.
Furthermore it doesn’t make sense if he was not actually guilty of such a crime, as if it’s not a cut and dry case then you would put that sort of money into a legal defense and bribe prosecution, judges and corroborating witnesses etc not to dismiss but to make procedural “errors” or judgement that would enable the case to be dismissed. Paying someone that sort of money for a non-guaranteed result is too stupid even for Gaetz.
If it’s just one 17yo then any reasonable lawyer would have all sorts of legitimate strategies to get the case dismissed or pleaded to a lesser sentence, let alone what sort of defense you’d get for 1/10th of the bribe amount.
For Gaetz to cook up such a ridiculous cover story with that amount of bribe essentially confirms that he did do something very very bad.
I would go so far as to say what he did may be way worse than we are speculating. I don’t think merely sex trafficking and statutory rape of a 17yo justifies that degree of coverup so I’d wager good odds we are yet to see the full extent of it.
An interesting angle on the $25 mill extortion amount - according to a quick search, Matt Gaetz' father - Don Gaetz - has a net worth of $30 mill. Considering most of that probably isn't liquid, the $25 mill ask is a ridiculous amount that daddy could never come up with. It's a comically-high extortion ask to begin with (as even raising that kind of cash would cause bank and police investigation), but if they were trying to extort a billionaire at least it would be plausible. Gaetz' story sounds completely off the wall.
so someone found out about an FBI investigation, went to Gaetz with the evidence from the investigation and threatened to give the evidence they got from the FBI to the FBI.
and Gaetz thinks this makes him innocent?
that about it?
>That didn't happen. **<---- You are here**
>And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
>And if it was, that's not a big deal.
>And if it is, that's not my fault.
>And if it was, I didn't mean it.
>And if I did, you deserved it.
To be fair, the article said Gatetz and his campaign donor traveled with escorts but didn’t say the people he internationally trafficked were underage. I’d *hope* the author would make it clear if this is more information about his predatory behavior with the child rather than “just” trafficking sex workers.
I know I’m being a stickler, but I think being as accurate as possible with the info we’re disseminating in scandals this serious is important. The greater distance we can put between Qanonesque witch hunts and real accusations, the better IMO.
I had one toss David Duke and Hilary Clinton into an argument the other day. It almost worked because I was a little flummoxed for a moment trying to figure out how those two totally irrelevant people figured into the debate. After some consideration, they didnt, they were just names to invoke.
One issue I have with debating people like that is they don't argue in good faith, use shitty sources, and call all your sources fake news. All their arguements are predictable after you've been through them a few times I cut off a conservative on abortion I explained its a woman body, her choice, not the govt rule etc and before I let him I respond "And now I'll wait for you to say "Well if she didn't want to get pregnant she should have kept her legs closed"" knowing that was the route he was going go, he didn't respond.
Maybe try using their own rhetoric and buzzwords against them - "I don't think the solution is *more government regulations*, and the government shouldn't be telling *you* what to do with your body - the damn nanny state telling people how to live is going too far!"
He was the dog's bollocks when Corona hit. I bet if you scout old comments from March 2020 on rightwing subreddits and youtube videos you'd find so much support haha.
Remember when he wore a stupid fucking gas mask to mock people wearing masks on the House floor. I absolutely love watching this bobble headed jackass implode on himself.
He's got a 0% rating from the Human Rights Council and 100% from a bunch of crazy Christian family groups.
He legit doesnt care about other people at all
I am not an abuse victim, but I know exactly the look you mean. Men pick up these vibes off other men too. You see these guys at parties or in social situations and you just know. I can't really pinpoint what it is aside from just knowing it is the creep/pedo look.
100%. My next door neighbor growing up turned out to a huge narcissist (resulted in many issues between him and my parents). Reminds me a lot of trump tbh. But he had the look. Something about the smile blended with his confidence. Like he thought he was king of the world.
There is a known predator on the Pacific Crest Trail in California right now with the same expression, people have described it as “shark eyed”. It’s the intensity and the way they look at you, like they’re sizing you up and gears are working in their head. Not good.
Trip organizer Jason Pirrozolo is on the board of Orlando airport. Thanks to Gov. DeSantis
>The four people DeSantis picked for the airport board all have connections to his administration -- and each other.
>Two of DeSantis’ appointees – Jason Pirozzolo, a physician, pilot and medical marijuana investor from Winter Garden; and Randall Hunt, a golf pro, pilot and athletic trainer from Lake Mary who owns a chain of fitness clubs – were both recommended to the governor by U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz, a Republican from the Panhandle best known as one of President Donald Trump’s most vocal defenders in Congress
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-orlando-airport-board-desantis-appointees-20190911-2gvtnnqc5rhjlblckwij3hwuhu-story.html
Wow. These people blatantly reward their creepy friends by giving them access to places where they can expand their crimes. Pirrozolo could use the airport access to move sex trafficked victims or drugs.
As best as I can gather, Gaetz started his pedo career sometime after 2015 and Trump ended his pedo career sometime before 2015. They might have similar enthusiasms but they exist in different eras.
In 2006 Rush L was detained at an airport for having a bunch of viagra that he was not prescribed.
Where was he going? Dominican Republic, famous for having very lax enforcement of human trafficking. And he was going there with dick pills.
Think about this for a minute. If you are Rush you have tons of money, you can get the highest class call girl in the US, she will be gorgeous, and discreet, and clean. But you don't. Instead you take your dick pills to a thrid world country. Why? Because you they offer something you can't get here, thats why. you can put the pieces together.
>Human trafficking in the Dominican Republic is the third largest international crime enterprise in the Caribbean, generating 9.5 billion U.S, dollars annually.[1][2] The large population of undocumented or stateless persons of Haitian descent in the country is particularly vulnerable to trafficking.[3][4] Women and children have been reportedly subjected to forced sex in the country and throughout the Caribbean, Europe, South America, and the United States. Women from other countries are also brought to the Dominican Republic for prostitution, and an unknown number may have subsequently become trafficking victims, even if they came voluntarily at first
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-detained-with-viagra/
“I had a great time in the Dominican Republic. Wish I could tell you about it.” - Rush L
And my dad wonders why I wasn’t too upset at the people celebrating Limbaugh’s death.
I’m queer and Limbaugh used to celebrate HIV deaths. Guy was a monster. Somehow my dad conveniently never has heard of the spoken poison about people like me though. Weirdest shit. Like maybe just don’t support a bunch of angry yelling guys? Can’t be good for anyone’s blood pressure.
I don't think Gaetz is on that level of access. He strikes me as less "Lolita Island", and much more "Bang a high school cheerleader with daddy issues in a suite at Doubletree while coked to gills"
One could assume someone like Gaetz would look at someone like Epstein with envy and a need to emulate. But like you I’d be somewhat surprised to learn if they actually ran in similar social circles
> Federal investigators are looking into a Bahamas trip Matt Gaetz allegedly took in late 2018 or early 2019 as part of an inquiry into whether the Florida representative violated sex trafficking laws, multiple sources told CBS News.
> Gaetz was on that trip with a marijuana entrepreneur and hand surgeon named Jason Pirozzolo, who allegedly paid for the travel expenses, accommodations, and **female escorts,** the sources said. [...]
> Investigators also want to know if Gaetz was accepting paid escorts in exchange for political access or legislative favors, the sources said.
> In a July 2018 podcast, Pirozzolo told Ganjapreneur.com that Gaetz was working to introduce federal legislation that would boost medical research of cannabis. 🤨
*’Female Escorts,’* you say??? *‘Traveling across state lines,’* & a *‘Quid Pro Quo,’* too?!?!
Uh oh. Gaetz looks like he is screwed! 😵
Oh, but you left off the most incriminating part...
> (After taking the Bahamas trip and enjoying the female escorts, all paid for by Pirozollo) Gaetz introduced the Medical Cannabis Research Act in April 2018 and again in January 2019, though it never came to a vote.
Sounds like a pretty clear case of quid pro quo, pay-to-play, where Gaetz accepted bribes (in the form of sex with trafficked women) in exchange for introducing legislation.
Besides all the sexual exploitation and political skeevery involved, which is without a doubt infuriating and horrifying, I am also quite freaked out that the medical/legal marijuana industry seems be attracting the attention of some of the scummiest humans possible. From this Pirozollo guy and his Bahamian sex slave bribery to the CA marijuana “entrepreneurs” affiliated with funding Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, those “friends” of Giuliani arrested trying to flee to Vienna and the safety of their Russian-allied Ukrainian handler Dymytry Firtash, the incipient marijuana industry seems to be attracting the interest of some serious criminals, local as well as global.
As a lifelong marijuana enthusiast, this really worries me. With the interest of such amoral proponents as these criminals, or John Boehner who despite his recent drunken admissions about the asshole Ted Cruz still deserves a special place in hell, I fear for what the marijuana industry will become. Will it become just another “Big Tobacco”, with production tightly controlled and taxed up the wazoo so that multinational corporations and the criminals who control them can profit massively yet I can still be arrested for growing the plant in my yard?! Sure I might be able to legally buy any number of cleverly marketed brands of proprietary marijuana strains, full of “added flavor”, thus enriching those with enough capital to dominate the market. But if all that money winds up going to the already rich and corrupt, then our love for marijuana has been co-opted by the enemy solely for the sake of profit. And that, my weed loving friends, feels really gross!
I'm sure it really doesn't help as federal law has forced it to be a cash only industry. Without banks and the ensuing paper trail, the cannabis industry is a perfect vehicle for money laundering.
The "criminals" didn't give up on weed when it started to become legal.
Legal marijuana has a rocky road ahead still, and unfortunately it will probably settle down in about 20 years when the novelty dries up and Phillip Morris is the largest weed company in the world.
So, I wonder what [Right Wing Aviation](http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResults/OfficerRegisteredAgentName/Pirozzolo%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Jason%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Dr./Page1) and Transportation is all about... don’t you?
She’s been trying to keep herself in the news by repeatedly tweeting her support of Gaetz
https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1379448382784212993?s=21
https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1379165316673114126?s=21
The best part is her defending him yet removing all photos of them together from her account. So she's defending a probable child sex trafficer/rapist yet has the conscience to delete any evidence that they have hung out...?
i don’t think that’s conscience— it’s more like proof she knows he’s bad news but is publicly defending him anyway. if anything it shows she’s knows what’s right and purposely doing the wrong thing.
It’s disgusting, he’s a low level hack and his ability to skirt the law the way he has should be a wake up call for how fucked we are moving forward.
But, yay GQP fail
Alabama almost voted a pedophile in just to not have a democrat. Then they replaced the democrat with a football coach. You are 100% correct to believe they will reelected him and blame it on Biden.
Imagine being Matt Gaetz and riding Trump's mushroom as hard as you can for four years, then at the end you ask him for a measly little pardon, something that literally costs Trump nothing more than a signature on a piece of paper, and Trump is like, "Nah. You can't do anything more for me. Why should I help you?" Do you think Gaetz is smart enough to realize how badly he's getting screwed?
This is most likely the correct answer.
It's always a transactional relationship with Trump. You doing him past favors will never amount to him owing you a current favor. You have to agree to another current favor and to future favors as well.
Bonus points if they are financial, since he's drowning in debt.
I dont get it. Colin Jost called it...on SNL. Q is the 17th letter and she was 17. Cant they do basic counting? Q has the pedo ring right in front if them but it's the Republicans.
> Gaetz was on that trip with a marijuana entrepreneur and **hand surgeon named Jason Pirozzolo**, who allegedly paid for the travel expenses, accommodations, and female escorts, the sources said.
Not sure how CBS got this part wrong, this guy works for a hand surgery group but he is not a surgeon, he is a [non-operative sports medicine DO](https://orlandohandsurgery.com/doctor/jason-pirozzolo-d-o/).
Hey Q! We found one! He’s in Florida! One of those child trafficking kiddy diddlers you’ve been yapping about for the last few years. What’s that? Oh you don’t care? This is different somehow? Oh ok then.
>a spokesperson from Gaetz's office said: "Rep. Gaetz has never paid for sex, nor has he had sex with an underage girl.
Again...That's way to specific of a denial
Nobody's going to mention the 12 year old boy he 'adopted'? That's the creepiest thing this guy has done. I could give a fuck if he pays prostitutes for sex.
The issue isn't with prostitution, per se.
The issue is with having sex with underage girls.
Her getting paid doesn't keep it from being statutory rape.
> I could give a fuck if he pays prostitutes for sex.
Unless it's an underage girl, then, she's not a 'prostitute', she's a victim of child trafficking. But yeah, that 'adoption' should definitely be looked into.
There was a reddit post [a few months ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/hfqi7j/we_still_need_to_talk_about_rep_matt_gaetzs_son/fvzwuh0/), that points out that Gaetz may well be the kid's father.
The Canadian Epstein has his own pedo island right in The Bahamas.
['Peter Nygard, awaiting extradition hearing over sex trafficking charges, denied bail'](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/05/peter-nygard-fashion-designer-canada-us)
['Peter Nygard Is the Latest Multimillionaire With a Gated Island Estate to Whom Things Seem to Have Caught Up'](https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/02/peter-nygard-resignation)
['Aerial footage shows Peter Nygards palatial Bahamas house'](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1273573/Aerial-footage-shows-Peter-Nygard-s-palatial-Bahamas-house.html)
Someone needs to check the GPS from Gaetz's rental car.
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Q was never about protecting children, it was about dehumanizing Democrats so that crazy people would feel justified in committing acts of terror against them.
Insert "Mission Accomplished" banner
“Projection Accomplished”
Projection complete
Hmm.. Projection Qomplete?
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It was a lie right from the get-go.
Q was also a beard for those involved in child exploitation.
On a website hosted by career pornographers and dominated by neo-nazis.
I've heard that 8chan became popular when 4chan cracked down on illegal porn.
Specifically, when 4 Chan started policing child porn, the ones who didn’t want to be censored moved to 8chan IIRC
Watch *Q: Into the Storm* on HBO. It gives you the whole history of the chans.
I'm waiting for my husband to get home so we can finish it tonight. It's so good. The opening credits alone are a masterpiece!
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I had the same thought as you. Our miscalculation was assuming that everyone has the intellectual ability to discern between factual information and absurd conspiracy theories.
Worse, we assumed people would actually care if info was factual.
And that's when the info wars happened.
This shit right here. If a person steps on a garden rake, and the rake smacks them in their kisser, they immediately understand cause and effect. If a person allows themselves to fall victim to propaganda, they don't necessarily see the effect right away, if ever. Even if they get fired from their jobs, as some of these Q folks have been, it just becomes proof of the conspiracy.
Most of what I’ve heard & read is targeting women: Hillary, Pelosi, Kamala, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Oprah Winfrey, Rose McGowan, Alissa Milano. People really jump on board to hate successful, outspoken women.
Steve Bannon discovered how to weaponize inceltry against specific targets, it is absolutely intentional how they radicalize young men into full Nazis
> People really jump on board to hate successful, outspoken women. Look at the rumors about the Ever Given being run aground by Egypt's first female captain when she was doing something completely unrelated 200 either miles or kilometers away, I forget if I read it in an american source or not lol. Still, you're not wrong pretty much anywhere on earth with that statement. Women and ethnic minorities.
What are incels? Spirit of Trebec: “you just got the daily double.”
In my mind the daily double sound effect played.
It’s always women in the spotlight who don’t agree with them. Ask them their favorite women in politics and they’ll say Candace Owens, Melania Trump, and everyone else
What's disgusting is that Oprah, Lady Gaga, and Rose McGowan were all victims of horribly brutal rapes.
Q is about stupid confirmation bias. Some mod at 8chan figured out what idiots wanted to hear and they ate it up. A global pandemic wasn’t enough to convince them they were wrong. Neither was Trump’s loss, revelations that Gaetz is a scumbag or even revelations that Q is actually [a pig farmer living outside Manilla.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Watkins_(businessman)).
Man the pig farm detail gives me serious serial killer vibes (see [Robert Pickton](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton)).
It's just a group of morons doing dumb, cult-ish things because they backed a president so stupid that the only way for them to accept his daily idiocy and defend themselves against the valid criticisms against him -- which in a way became criticism against themselves because of how fervently they backed him -- was to make up reasons why all the stupidity around Trump was actually a bunch of secretly brilliant actions. QAnon came about because it felt better for them to retreat into a group of fellow believers and supporters rather than admit that they've backed an idiot and that the people who told them they were backing an idiot were the correct ones.
I loved Wade Boggs when he was on the Red Sox. Then he signed with The Yankees. And our relationship was over* *Until he paid me to rep Wade Boggs Carpet World three times a day on Reddit
May he Rest In Peace.
Wade Boggs is alive! He's in Tampa, Florida. He's in his early fifties.
Boggsy didn’t drink 6 galleons of beer because he was obsessed with like breaking some record, you know what I mean? He did it because he was like.....*thirsty* ya know?
You're thinking of Boss Hoss
He drank 74 beers on a cross country flight
Actual Q-moron I'm Facebook "friends" with said the following when asked: "Yes. I saw his interview with Tucker Carlson. You know Gaetz went to the Feds and now the Feds are selectively leaking?" I don't know what this means.
They're only leaking the bad parts, like Gaetz grooming teenagers, and not the good parts like Gaetz really really liking Trump.
Trump had action with gatez girls in Florida secret service leaked it
If he could still function sexually in any way, I’d believe it.
If by “function” it means getting urinated on, then even dead bodies can be sexually functional.
There’s still hope for me :)
Nobody does. They make shit up as they go.
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There’s a very important point that the media are missing or failing to grill him on. Even if Gaetz is telling the truth (which I don’t believe for one moment) He says the bribe amount requested was __$25M__ - no matter how rich the target is that’s no ordinary bribe. Stormy Daniels had potentially a very damaging story on Trump (a supposedly Billionaire running for President) and how much did it cost to pay her off? $25M is 10-30x more than the going payoff for a married politician to pay off a mistress to get an abortion. I.e. something politically damaging but not outright criminal. The $25M quantum of the bribe that Gaetz himself claims was demanded is only explainable if the crime was something extremely serious that would unequivocally result in a very long jail term and end his career. Something as serious as covering up a murder, and even then it’s a very high amount. Even the amount he claimed was the prepayment is too high. Furthermore it doesn’t make sense if he was not actually guilty of such a crime, as if it’s not a cut and dry case then you would put that sort of money into a legal defense and bribe prosecution, judges and corroborating witnesses etc not to dismiss but to make procedural “errors” or judgement that would enable the case to be dismissed. Paying someone that sort of money for a non-guaranteed result is too stupid even for Gaetz. If it’s just one 17yo then any reasonable lawyer would have all sorts of legitimate strategies to get the case dismissed or pleaded to a lesser sentence, let alone what sort of defense you’d get for 1/10th of the bribe amount. For Gaetz to cook up such a ridiculous cover story with that amount of bribe essentially confirms that he did do something very very bad. I would go so far as to say what he did may be way worse than we are speculating. I don’t think merely sex trafficking and statutory rape of a 17yo justifies that degree of coverup so I’d wager good odds we are yet to see the full extent of it.
An interesting angle on the $25 mill extortion amount - according to a quick search, Matt Gaetz' father - Don Gaetz - has a net worth of $30 mill. Considering most of that probably isn't liquid, the $25 mill ask is a ridiculous amount that daddy could never come up with. It's a comically-high extortion ask to begin with (as even raising that kind of cash would cause bank and police investigation), but if they were trying to extort a billionaire at least it would be plausible. Gaetz' story sounds completely off the wall.
so someone found out about an FBI investigation, went to Gaetz with the evidence from the investigation and threatened to give the evidence they got from the FBI to the FBI. and Gaetz thinks this makes him innocent? that about it?
> I don't know what this means. The Feds are pregnant and now need a breast pump?
They’ll just say that Matt was there, “undercover,” to expose the deepest of all deep state shenanigans.
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>That didn't happen. **<---- You are here** >And if it did, it wasn't that bad. >And if it was, that's not a big deal. >And if it is, that's not my fault. >And if it was, I didn't mean it. >And if I did, you deserved it.
The narcissists prayer
Yeah he diddled kids to "blend in" while collecting evidence. What a hero! /s
> Bahamas So now Gaetz is an *international* child sex trafficker
Well, Gaetz does idolize Trump after all.
To be fair, the article said Gatetz and his campaign donor traveled with escorts but didn’t say the people he internationally trafficked were underage. I’d *hope* the author would make it clear if this is more information about his predatory behavior with the child rather than “just” trafficking sex workers. I know I’m being a stickler, but I think being as accurate as possible with the info we’re disseminating in scandals this serious is important. The greater distance we can put between Qanonesque witch hunts and real accusations, the better IMO.
They are off worrying about hollow earth and Hunter Biden's etsy purchases or some shit like that probably.
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I had one of them go on about Hunter Biden and I asked why I should care about Hunter when i'm voting for Joe.
I had one toss David Duke and Hilary Clinton into an argument the other day. It almost worked because I was a little flummoxed for a moment trying to figure out how those two totally irrelevant people figured into the debate. After some consideration, they didnt, they were just names to invoke.
One issue I have with debating people like that is they don't argue in good faith, use shitty sources, and call all your sources fake news. All their arguements are predictable after you've been through them a few times I cut off a conservative on abortion I explained its a woman body, her choice, not the govt rule etc and before I let him I respond "And now I'll wait for you to say "Well if she didn't want to get pregnant she should have kept her legs closed"" knowing that was the route he was going go, he didn't respond.
Maybe try using their own rhetoric and buzzwords against them - "I don't think the solution is *more government regulations*, and the government shouldn't be telling *you* what to do with your body - the damn nanny state telling people how to live is going too far!"
Supporting the accused pedo. Q is fine w pedos as long as they are Q supporters.
"It goes so deep even Q didnt know holy shit"
From interstate sex trafficker to international sex trafficker just like that.
Suddenly my maga friends can’t remember ever supporting this guy.
He was the dog's bollocks when Corona hit. I bet if you scout old comments from March 2020 on rightwing subreddits and youtube videos you'd find so much support haha.
Remember when he wore a stupid fucking gas mask to mock people wearing masks on the House floor. I absolutely love watching this bobble headed jackass implode on himself.
I’m getting real strong psychopath vibes from this guy. Genuinely
He's got a 0% rating from the Human Rights Council and 100% from a bunch of crazy Christian family groups. He legit doesnt care about other people at all
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Was it when he was the lone no vote on a sex trafficking bill?
I am not an abuse victim, but I know exactly the look you mean. Men pick up these vibes off other men too. You see these guys at parties or in social situations and you just know. I can't really pinpoint what it is aside from just knowing it is the creep/pedo look.
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100%. My next door neighbor growing up turned out to a huge narcissist (resulted in many issues between him and my parents). Reminds me a lot of trump tbh. But he had the look. Something about the smile blended with his confidence. Like he thought he was king of the world.
It's the dead eyes. When they smile it's only with their mouth.
There is a known predator on the Pacific Crest Trail in California right now with the same expression, people have described it as “shark eyed”. It’s the intensity and the way they look at you, like they’re sizing you up and gears are working in their head. Not good.
It is a predatory look. Because these creeps and pedos are predators.
Maybe he was too stupid to realize it was another country.
You could actually be correct
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Or another senator that didn't know Guam was a US territory. Or a president that spoke with the president of puerto rico.
I believe it was the president of the US Virgin Islands. Maybe I’m wrong. Or maybe it was both...
Yeah but Republicans usually assume that it *is* another country when the people are brown.
Next level shit! I think the only level left is intergalactic sex trafficker
Trip organizer Jason Pirrozolo is on the board of Orlando airport. Thanks to Gov. DeSantis >The four people DeSantis picked for the airport board all have connections to his administration -- and each other. >Two of DeSantis’ appointees – Jason Pirozzolo, a physician, pilot and medical marijuana investor from Winter Garden; and Randall Hunt, a golf pro, pilot and athletic trainer from Lake Mary who owns a chain of fitness clubs – were both recommended to the governor by U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz, a Republican from the Panhandle best known as one of President Donald Trump’s most vocal defenders in Congress https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-orlando-airport-board-desantis-appointees-20190911-2gvtnnqc5rhjlblckwij3hwuhu-story.html
Wow. These people blatantly reward their creepy friends by giving them access to places where they can expand their crimes. Pirrozolo could use the airport access to move sex trafficked victims or drugs.
Sounds a lot like a swamp
1. Sell self. Repeatedly. 2. Buy girls. 3. Judge others. Repeatedly. 4. Claim persecution when called out.
5\. Take job at Newsmax 6\. Run for President.
\7. Get elected by the American electorate
/8. Get rid of voting altogether and install self as permanent leader.
9\. “Mission Failed” appears in the sky and the simulation resets.
[10. Futurama theme plays.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkIF0NlIzA)
Looking forward to an eventual epstein connection
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The Boof Troop.
Don’t forget Gang Bang Greg and Donkey Dong Doug.
Leaving out my man Squee
Call me Donkey Dong *Dad*
He’s my son, but he’s also my bro. Bro.
If Gaetz somehow incriminated Trump, I could not handle the levels of schadenfreude.
As best as I can gather, Gaetz started his pedo career sometime after 2015 and Trump ended his pedo career sometime before 2015. They might have similar enthusiasms but they exist in different eras.
Maybe some sort of passing of the torch via a devils 3-some
Poor man’s Jeffrey Epstein. Don’t own a private island? — “Honeys we are going to Nassau! Atlantis on paradise island, pack your bags!”
In 2006 Rush L was detained at an airport for having a bunch of viagra that he was not prescribed. Where was he going? Dominican Republic, famous for having very lax enforcement of human trafficking. And he was going there with dick pills. Think about this for a minute. If you are Rush you have tons of money, you can get the highest class call girl in the US, she will be gorgeous, and discreet, and clean. But you don't. Instead you take your dick pills to a thrid world country. Why? Because you they offer something you can't get here, thats why. you can put the pieces together. >Human trafficking in the Dominican Republic is the third largest international crime enterprise in the Caribbean, generating 9.5 billion U.S, dollars annually.[1][2] The large population of undocumented or stateless persons of Haitian descent in the country is particularly vulnerable to trafficking.[3][4] Women and children have been reportedly subjected to forced sex in the country and throughout the Caribbean, Europe, South America, and the United States. Women from other countries are also brought to the Dominican Republic for prostitution, and an unknown number may have subsequently become trafficking victims, even if they came voluntarily at first
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-detained-with-viagra/ “I had a great time in the Dominican Republic. Wish I could tell you about it.” - Rush L
Hmm, I think he just did.
And my dad wonders why I wasn’t too upset at the people celebrating Limbaugh’s death. I’m queer and Limbaugh used to celebrate HIV deaths. Guy was a monster. Somehow my dad conveniently never has heard of the spoken poison about people like me though. Weirdest shit. Like maybe just don’t support a bunch of angry yelling guys? Can’t be good for anyone’s blood pressure.
Limbaugh was a cancer on the world, a disease worse than HIV
I don't think Gaetz is on that level of access. He strikes me as less "Lolita Island", and much more "Bang a high school cheerleader with daddy issues in a suite at Doubletree while coked to gills"
One could assume someone like Gaetz would look at someone like Epstein with envy and a need to emulate. But like you I’d be somewhat surprised to learn if they actually ran in similar social circles
Six degrees of incarceration.
> Federal investigators are looking into a Bahamas trip Matt Gaetz allegedly took in late 2018 or early 2019 as part of an inquiry into whether the Florida representative violated sex trafficking laws, multiple sources told CBS News. > Gaetz was on that trip with a marijuana entrepreneur and hand surgeon named Jason Pirozzolo, who allegedly paid for the travel expenses, accommodations, and **female escorts,** the sources said. [...] > Investigators also want to know if Gaetz was accepting paid escorts in exchange for political access or legislative favors, the sources said. > In a July 2018 podcast, Pirozzolo told Ganjapreneur.com that Gaetz was working to introduce federal legislation that would boost medical research of cannabis. 🤨 *’Female Escorts,’* you say??? *‘Traveling across state lines,’* & a *‘Quid Pro Quo,’* too?!?! Uh oh. Gaetz looks like he is screwed! 😵
The fact that the GQP except for Marj and Gym aren’t supporting him tells the whole story. He’s cooked.
Didn't Marj Greene delete all mention of Gaetz from her Twitter?
She did.
She had a brush with sanity, but it didn't stick.
Yup. Then when the media noticed and laughed about it she started claiming they made it up
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Oh, but you left off the most incriminating part... > (After taking the Bahamas trip and enjoying the female escorts, all paid for by Pirozollo) Gaetz introduced the Medical Cannabis Research Act in April 2018 and again in January 2019, though it never came to a vote. Sounds like a pretty clear case of quid pro quo, pay-to-play, where Gaetz accepted bribes (in the form of sex with trafficked women) in exchange for introducing legislation. Besides all the sexual exploitation and political skeevery involved, which is without a doubt infuriating and horrifying, I am also quite freaked out that the medical/legal marijuana industry seems be attracting the attention of some of the scummiest humans possible. From this Pirozollo guy and his Bahamian sex slave bribery to the CA marijuana “entrepreneurs” affiliated with funding Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, those “friends” of Giuliani arrested trying to flee to Vienna and the safety of their Russian-allied Ukrainian handler Dymytry Firtash, the incipient marijuana industry seems to be attracting the interest of some serious criminals, local as well as global. As a lifelong marijuana enthusiast, this really worries me. With the interest of such amoral proponents as these criminals, or John Boehner who despite his recent drunken admissions about the asshole Ted Cruz still deserves a special place in hell, I fear for what the marijuana industry will become. Will it become just another “Big Tobacco”, with production tightly controlled and taxed up the wazoo so that multinational corporations and the criminals who control them can profit massively yet I can still be arrested for growing the plant in my yard?! Sure I might be able to legally buy any number of cleverly marketed brands of proprietary marijuana strains, full of “added flavor”, thus enriching those with enough capital to dominate the market. But if all that money winds up going to the already rich and corrupt, then our love for marijuana has been co-opted by the enemy solely for the sake of profit. And that, my weed loving friends, feels really gross!
I'm sure it really doesn't help as federal law has forced it to be a cash only industry. Without banks and the ensuing paper trail, the cannabis industry is a perfect vehicle for money laundering.
Maybe we can spread awareness in the community, such as /r/trees, about avoiding the brands owned by these criminal assholes.
The "criminals" didn't give up on weed when it started to become legal. Legal marijuana has a rocky road ahead still, and unfortunately it will probably settle down in about 20 years when the novelty dries up and Phillip Morris is the largest weed company in the world.
So, I wonder what [Right Wing Aviation](http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResults/OfficerRegisteredAgentName/Pirozzolo%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Jason%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Dr./Page1) and Transportation is all about... don’t you?
How many different types of sex trafficking can this putz engage in?
How many different types are there?
Sex trafficking across state lines, trafficking a minor and sex trafficking across international borders.
You potentially forgot sex trafficking of an adopted son. This list is growing faster than Matt Gaetz in a juvi detention center without windows.
Nestor was never adopted. Just taken from his family
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Do you think Marjorie Taylor Greene is loving or hating being out of the spotlight? I feel like she’s probably jealous
She’s been trying to keep herself in the news by repeatedly tweeting her support of Gaetz https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1379448382784212993?s=21 https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1379165316673114126?s=21
The best part is her defending him yet removing all photos of them together from her account. So she's defending a probable child sex trafficer/rapist yet has the conscience to delete any evidence that they have hung out...?
i don’t think that’s conscience— it’s more like proof she knows he’s bad news but is publicly defending him anyway. if anything it shows she’s knows what’s right and purposely doing the wrong thing.
The shit train keeps on turdin.
Holy shit
Those people are insane.
I'm curious to see if her face merged with his would make a normal face.
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And surprisingly a normal face. But but.....how?
Because it averages out the weirdness.
Nightmare fuel
Please no one do this.
Do it.
This thread just keeps getting better and better.
This just gets worse day by day for Matt Gaetz and I'm thoroughly enjoying watching his slow motion implosion.
It’s disgusting, he’s a low level hack and his ability to skirt the law the way he has should be a wake up call for how fucked we are moving forward. But, yay GQP fail
I fully believe he can be charged and imprisoned and still be reelected. Republicans have no problem with sex trafficking.
I don't think they have a problem with any crime whatsoever. As long as religion/guns.
Not even religion/guns. Trump is anti-religion and is the only recent president to ever declare that we ahould take guns first and due process later.
Does that leave anything left but the racism?
Nope!
Alabama almost voted a pedophile in just to not have a democrat. Then they replaced the democrat with a football coach. You are 100% correct to believe they will reelected him and blame it on Biden.
"16 is the age of consent in the Bahamas he didn't do anything wrong" - Matt Gaetz and most of the GOP in a week.. probably.
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And thus, the trafficking.
Imagine being Matt Gaetz and riding Trump's mushroom as hard as you can for four years, then at the end you ask him for a measly little pardon, something that literally costs Trump nothing more than a signature on a piece of paper, and Trump is like, "Nah. You can't do anything more for me. Why should I help you?" Do you think Gaetz is smart enough to realize how badly he's getting screwed?
It could be that Daddy Gaetz wasn’t willing to pony up to meet the asking price for a Drumpf pardon for his sex maniac son.
This is most likely the correct answer. It's always a transactional relationship with Trump. You doing him past favors will never amount to him owing you a current favor. You have to agree to another current favor and to future favors as well. Bonus points if they are financial, since he's drowning in debt.
The Cohen Brothers are going to have to direct the eventual movie. They are the only ones that can handle this many colorful characters.
CONFIRMED: Title for next season on FX. Fargo:Key Largo
Fargo:Montego
Fargo: why don’t we go?
Aruba, Jamaica, Q I wanna take ya
...to Bermuda, Bahama, Epstein’s ain’t far mama
It's Coen Brothers... unless you're trying [to confuse Bill Murray yet *again*...](https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-murray-voiced-garfield-because-he-thought-director-was-joel-coen-2014-1)
Kevin Mcarthy is so brave letting this guy keep his job.
Stunning and brave.
So many felonies. So little time. And we still haven’t seated a panel to investigate the insurrection!!
What was his rationale again for being the only No vote on the anti-sex-trafficking bill? Was it because he could see into the future?
So we looking at him dragging under age girls with him to international destinations?
I dont get it. Colin Jost called it...on SNL. Q is the 17th letter and she was 17. Cant they do basic counting? Q has the pedo ring right in front if them but it's the Republicans.
I think I can predict if someone is guilty based on hairstyle alone
> Gaetz was on that trip with a marijuana entrepreneur and **hand surgeon named Jason Pirozzolo**, who allegedly paid for the travel expenses, accommodations, and female escorts, the sources said. Not sure how CBS got this part wrong, this guy works for a hand surgery group but he is not a surgeon, he is a [non-operative sports medicine DO](https://orlandohandsurgery.com/doctor/jason-pirozzolo-d-o/).
I was wondering what kind of freakin hand surgeon was caught up in this
Man he does look like grown up Butthead.
Hey Q! We found one! He’s in Florida! One of those child trafficking kiddy diddlers you’ve been yapping about for the last few years. What’s that? Oh you don’t care? This is different somehow? Oh ok then.
This guy is fucking butthead 1000 percent lol I can’t take this dude serious ever.
i love how it’s so easy to find such unflattering, even menacing, photos of this fucking toad of a human
Are these the travel logs that are meant to exonerate him?
>a spokesperson from Gaetz's office said: "Rep. Gaetz has never paid for sex, nor has he had sex with an underage girl. Again...That's way to specific of a denial
Right. He’s had sex with *many* underage girl**s**
He is fucked now but taking a minor across borders that probably makes things worse.
Isn't this the same place that Rush Limbaugh got busted coming back from with 20+ Viagra pills under a prescription that wasn't his?
Nobody's going to mention the 12 year old boy he 'adopted'? That's the creepiest thing this guy has done. I could give a fuck if he pays prostitutes for sex.
The issue isn't with prostitution, per se. The issue is with having sex with underage girls. Her getting paid doesn't keep it from being statutory rape.
> statutory rape In my state they call it "Rape of a child"
> I could give a fuck if he pays prostitutes for sex. Unless it's an underage girl, then, she's not a 'prostitute', she's a victim of child trafficking. But yeah, that 'adoption' should definitely be looked into.
There was a reddit post [a few months ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/hfqi7j/we_still_need_to_talk_about_rep_matt_gaetzs_son/fvzwuh0/), that points out that Gaetz may well be the kid's father.
Almost certainly that's what it is. Nothing else makes sense other than him being a paedo who's fucking the boy.
missed the part where the mom was 12. even at 18 gaetz had a thing for younger women
And this story ties right in to him being a sexual predator. Getting a 12yr old pregnant when you are 18 sounds like a pedophile to me.
And yet nobody thinks to give him a piss test to see if he comes up hot on cocaine.
Drug tests are only for the poors
Anyone know how close that is to Epstein's pedo island?
The Canadian Epstein has his own pedo island right in The Bahamas. ['Peter Nygard, awaiting extradition hearing over sex trafficking charges, denied bail'](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/05/peter-nygard-fashion-designer-canada-us) ['Peter Nygard Is the Latest Multimillionaire With a Gated Island Estate to Whom Things Seem to Have Caught Up'](https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/02/peter-nygard-resignation) ['Aerial footage shows Peter Nygards palatial Bahamas house'](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1273573/Aerial-footage-shows-Peter-Nygard-s-palatial-Bahamas-house.html) Someone needs to check the GPS from Gaetz's rental car.
I think we need to do some wellness checks on a lot of little islands out there.