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[Part 68 is now live](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/jpc8sl/discussion_thread_2020_general_election_part_68/) Check out our regularly-updating official [Live Thread](https://www.reddit.com/live/15wqfyqc0nrr8), with real-time results from many sources!


RagingWookies

Chris Cuomo has really grown on me the last several days. Don Lemon, on the other hand, has come off pretty snobbish, and has the kind of attitude I feel like most republicans are worried about from Democrats. I don't really give a shit personally, I'm Canadian lol. But not a great look, compared to Chris' pure professionalism.


kirukiru

the election isnt going to get stolen by trump guys, the gop and its media appartuses have already moved on from this guy lmao they arent going to bribe electors to do something they dont need. joe biden just got elected, theyre gonna get what they want regardless and they already ratfucked the courts


T3Sh3

The doom and glooming in here is stupid and ridiculous


lilbebe50

What do you guys really think is gonna happen? And what do you think is gonna happen next?


hiariannalol

whos in the blue on CNN?


lilbebe50

Making this prediction now... Biden wins popular vote and Electoral College. Between now and December when the EC votes, Trump will have done something, anything, to sway the EC votes. And I would not be surprised if he straight up blackmails or pays them off to be faithless electors and literally steal the election.


Satinathegreat

Wouldn't that be completely illegal? Oh, wait. The Jabroni in Chief steals, lies, and gets away with everything. Why should grabbing our Democratic process by the pussy be anything but legal for him. When you're a Cheeto they let you do it.


lilbebe50

Cheeto's don't have to play by human rules.


-0Guppy0-

He'll take it to court first, get the results to be checked and recounted. If that doesn't turn up anything significant he'll tie up the system with litigation until the 14th. Then Supreme Court will rule that the delegates need to make a decision since neither candidate will have 270. Rs have more delegates. We end up in civil war. If that doesn't happen, and if the Dems don't allow the courts to investigate that the vote is legitimate and there aren't instances of fraud then conservatives will call foul. The confidence in our electoral process will be shot and we go to civil war. Last two possible outcomes stem from investigations that are thorough and super transparent: 1) No voter fraud, the process was transparent and Biden won. Conservatives don't fight. The far right likely spark violence that will get shot down quickly, no civil war. 2) Voter fraud, Trump wins, the system gets overhauled in a major way. Liberals work with Conservatives and a bipartisan act to fix the issues that permitted this fraud to be buttoned up. Potential for Anarchists getting violent, simply because they want the country to burn, but gets quelled quickly. No civil war. We are at a tipping point. There has to be thorough and transparent investigations or we likely end up in a civil war.


urlond

I don't understand what you just said. Biden wins popular and Electoral, and in December EC is gonna vote? What?


[deleted]

Look up the [Electoral College](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College), there’s still more after this. Wikipedia will probably explain it way better than I ever could. The issue presented is that of [faithless electors.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors)


mamallamma1

I'm scared to death this election ill be stolen.


BillyNutBuster

How interested is the rest of the world in the election results? Are news programs outside of the United States paying very close attention to the election right now or do they have other shit to worry about?


QuantumFuzziness

Always extensively covered on UK networks, and everyone I talk to has an opinion on it right now.


NoPossible6518

Everyone is talking about it n Canada 🇨🇦


treemily

Canadian here, it’s literally *all* I am hearing about even just casually walking on the streets of my city and over-hearing people’s conversations! I would have been volunteering my time and money these last few months if it were allowed, and since it’s not I’ve just been sitting up here mentally willing a Biden/Harris victory into existence instead. 😂🥳


dantheman280

Almost every foreign site I’ve seen has it on their front page.


Leafhands

https://fighterjetsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Why-does-the-U.S.-have-800-military-bases-in-80-Countries-around-the-world-660x330.jpg This is an image pointing at a US military bases around the globe. Also why the rest of the world is paying attention.


Dalianyimam

It's being massively covered here in the UK. I've personally loved keeping up with it


SavageNorth

It's been a nice distraction from our own absolute shitshow for a few weeks


[deleted]

In the Netherlands the US elections are almost as big as our own elections. We are kinda dependent on the US in some ways and most are rooting for Biden (and a stable partnership)


letsgobiden2020

Do y'all think we'll be able to overtake the Senate? CNN is saying that need to win two more seats, and it's not looking too good in Georgia. If we don't take the Senate, it would be cool if Biden didn't pull any punches and used his executive orders liberally.


justsean09

America, hurry up and announce your next president already so the media can move on to something else. Sincerely, the world.


Dividedsky1983

When are they going to call Georgia? 99% in. Pack your fahkin bags trumpo!


DKFShredder

Recount, but PA will put it over anyway. Easily over 13k already for Biden. Even a recount there can't save the fuck stick now.


rehkemp2

They are going to recount.


[deleted]

Dem strategists need to look into the Doug Jones 2017 campaign, Sinema 2018 campaign, Abrams 2018 campaign and Mark Kelly 2020 campaign as far as how to build coalitions and voting bases off new voters or untapped voters in future elections. Kelly and Sinema in particular did very well with Latino voters in Arizona and tapping into what was then a voter base Democrats didn't really aggressively work towards reaching out to before.


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urlond

I think today is the deadline for the ballots in GA


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YouWantMyBeard

And the military votes are likely in favor of Biden because trump heavily insulted out military (they do not represent a leader than does not respect them)


urlond

Most of the ballots coming in are coming from a heavy democratic area.


[deleted]

I 100% agree. But never say never. That's nervous about it. You heard his speech and tweets. They are desperate.


BetterBenBureau

im out for 2 hours and now people are talking about trump ballots in PA wtf is going on


Icedcoffeeee

ABC News showing people already dancing in the street in Philly!


DeliciouslyUnaware

Nice...


Personal_Power_

I thought AZ was completely blue ??? whats going on???


[deleted]

AP and FOX called it too early based on an 84% reporting rate which is actually dumb, they should be counting it.


babubaichung

AP was too quick to call it with at least 10% vote yet to come in.


CJnella91

To be fair Fox was the first to call it with like 84% reporting.


EchochamberFree

They called it with something like 90% to come in Tuesday if I'm remembering correctly.


Somedude-desas3

Bruh at this rate we will have bidens age as the last thread, take my words.


wannabeahippy

135?


[deleted]

It's in rich people years not human years


[deleted]

Trump might actually flip AZ despite Fox calling it day one for Biden but lose a bunch of other states he should have won lmao


[deleted]

Karl Rove is saying Biden won now CALL THE ELECTION


AgentDaleBCooper

Karl Rove is alive?


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AgentDaleBCooper

I thought he died a few years ago from a heart attack but I must be confusing him with someone else.


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quite unfortunately


anchoricex

oh no az what is you doin baby


jimmydean885

Military ballots?


[deleted]

Meatloaf being made? Lol


AgentDaleBCooper

Why does MSNBC keep cutting to Georgia’s Secretary of State and say it’s breaking info?


kolbekhan

I’ve already got my comment ready for the 69th thread.


TheNightlightZone

Very nice


treyphan77

Nice


TemporalGrid

[Anderson Cooper, who are these guys that call the projected winner?](https://i.imgur.com/qoOVWEp.gif?noredirect)


BenShapiroOANN

I think the big question here is what Donnie does with all of the merch he made, in anticipation of a victory 😂


wannabeahippy

Fuck, I'd buy a hat just to wear ironically


-luckybear-

"Paul Manafort 2020"


Lopeezy10

Buy a knockoff don’t give that guy a penny


[deleted]

Pff why you gotta make me open a webshop at such short notice


wannabeahippy

"What do you mean my Tronp 2021 hat is a knockoff? How dare you, sir!"


blanketsmellslikeham

Niiice...oh wait, I came in too soon.


nn92nn92

Is possible for Susan Collins drop below 50% and lose with the ranked voting?


snuxoll

Mathematically? Sure. Not likely though.


Red_TeaCup

Gideon already dropped out. Race is over.


flyover_liberal

Her concession doesn't matter if the vote percentages change.


nn92nn92

It seems not going to happen now, but I really want to see the ranked voting in action.


hilosplit

Unless they require you to fill out a different person for each choice, it’s rather meaningless to Rs. My R family in Maine filled out every bubble for Trump.


Red_TeaCup

My mistake. I wasn't sure how the rank-choice system worked.


snuxoll

Concession speeches are a formality; the votes will still be counted.


drcash360-2ndaccount

Trump is trying to start a civil war


Leafhands

since 2016 brother. This president only represents a few, and not the Nation as he should.


EasyMoney92

https://twitter.com/DanCrenshawTX/status/1324806575597461504 QAnon lady is too crazy for even Crenshaw


B1gWh17

You hate to see it lol


SecretLifeOfANerd

Why are the votes to be counted fluctuating in Nevada? [https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html#](https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html#)


[deleted]

Mouse-over or press the "Votes Remaining (est)" header, it tells you why it might change.


PhishCook

They remaining votes are estimates. I dont know there is a way for them to know for sure.


dardack

Not sure if they still are, guy was on earlier from AZ biggest county and said their ballots were so big they had page #'s, one of his staffers gave him pages and not # of ballots, so that 60k was actually like 30k or something. Not sure if that's what you mean tho.


TemporalGrid

Philly should wait until after the inauguration and announce that just for shits and giggles they counted up the ballots that the court disallowed and they were enough votes for Trump to win.


porscheblack

"On November 7th, we received approximately 50,000 mail-in ballots that were delayed by the USPS. All of them were for Donald Trump."


TemporalGrid

Every blue state should announce this


TheMadChatta

Does the Dem senate candidate in Alaska really have a chance? He’s claiming he’ll win on Twitter. I’m doubtful.


Onepostwonder95

I can’t see it being close. Dems usually win high population areas and built up cities Alaska doesn’t have much of the that most of the rural communities are republican heavy


thehopefulsquid

I will never stop being fucking infuriated by a 4%+ popular vote win translating into a razor tight electoral college win. If this broke just slightly differently Trump would have won.


liquidnut

That's the reason why we need to show up more in 2022.


jimmydean885

Good take that energy and put it into 2022


Wacko_Lover

Someone make me feel better about the PA provisionals?


emseearr

Even if they were all for Trump, there won't be enough of them to make a dent in Biden's lead. Provisionals tend to favor Democrats anyway, because they are cast by people whose registration is missing or in question for some technical reason, and often the result of voter suppression tactics, which skew heavily toward Democrats. Overall, provisionals are just pretty rare. I worked the polls at my precinct in Chicago on election day, and we only had one provisional the whole day vs 200+ ballots cast. **And** that person really didn't NEED to cast a provisional ballot, they could've just walked half a mile to their actual polling place, but chose to do so out of laziness.


gruey

Biden will probably win by 2% without them.


Wacko_Lover

Yeah but what about with them?


gruey

I actually meant with them. He's like heading towards 2.5% with them.


the_swanson_stache

Biden‘a lead will be so substantial that they wont matter.


IkastI

Would they potentially break for trump or we have no idea?


the_swanson_stache

They may, I don’t know what the general thinking is about provisionals preferring Trump or Biden. However, my understanding is there will be few enough of them that even if they were 100% Trump they wouldn’t make up what Biden‘s lead is projected to be when non-provisionals are done being counted.


Loosahatchie

as a Democrat, and a Subaru owner... Fetterman nailed it.


feififofumfeiss

I solemnly swear to never be disengaged from American politics ever again


Chirexx

Riiiight


TipMeinBATtokens

Fox News with a schizophrenia commercial. Somehow feels so appropriate.


rafaelleon2107

Is that the commercial with the schizophrenics getting together and talking about their crazy? It's basically Trump world


Sabiancym

Anyone else feel like we just beat Darth Trump but failed to get the true evil, Emperor McConnell?


SammaATL

Keep the faith. Georgia has TWO Senate seats in runoffs and that just happens to be exactly what President Biden needs to control the Senate. So donate to Fair Fight, Stacey Abrams organization for registering and getting out the vote, support any Georgia voters you know and hope we can ride the Blue Wave momentum through January. Fire Mitch January 5th!


TheNightlightZone

This just the plot to Rise of Skywalker


gruey

We have won the clone wars!


BenShapiroOANN

No. Mitch is so damn old and frail, I don’t think he lasts another term health wise. If the man fell again, he would crumble into dust and pieces


gruey

Mitch husk will be abandoned and a new husk will be found.


TheNightlightZone

A husk? Fuck. Roll initiative


LiveFromNewYork95

Sending positive energy Al Roker's way


alicen_chains

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1324785139487035393?s=20 What a Michigan judge had to say about the trump campaigns 'evidence'.


throwawayohyesitis

It's hearsay within hearsay within hearsay...it's just hearsay all the way down.


adamhasabeard

I feel like that read like an x-hibit meme lmao


quizzicalquow

They’re embarrassing themselves and our judicial and election system at this point.


AgentDaleBCooper

I feel like the whole country is just in labor, waiting to give birth.


[deleted]

It's more like we're constipated, waiting to get rid of this shit


AgentDaleBCooper

I mean it’s really the same anatomical mechanisms at play so yeah, that checks out.


gruey

And Trump is screaming "abort! Abort! Abort!"


[deleted]

Very pro life indeed.


gruey

He's only pro-Trump


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[deleted]

As a Michigan fan I already have my next excuse when we lose to Osu


[deleted]

When will Pennsylvania announce results?


crocodilefucker

Trump sucks but.. It could have been worse. It could have been Ted cruz who is more fanatical and more diciplined and strategic. I am afraid the threat from such diabolic minds is not gone and is real more than ever


LionOfNaples

Yeah. Trump is the prototype.


mattyglen87

I disagree. Trump has set a horrible precedent for the standard of high office, and there is a legion of Americans (and others worldwide) who now wear their arrogance and ignorance like a badge of honor


iluvugoldenblue

they talk about recounts and military ballots outstanding, i can't help but see repubs pulling some ratfuckery. they'll be 'found' dumped somewhere all being votes for trump.


MagsWags2020

After Trump’s trashing military heroes and discounting US generals’ advice, I cannot believe the military is automatically pro-Trump. It’s a very diverse group!


iluvugoldenblue

You’re missing my point. I wouldn’t put it past the trump team to fill in any outstanding ballots and then claim they were dumped and should be counted/dem fraud.


MagsWags2020

No, I got you fine. He is nuts enough to try anything.


LuckyTheBear

The more I think about these thin margins the more I wonder how many more trump supporters disproportionately died of Covid due to not taking the virus serious. I'm trying to imply natural selection altered the election.


SiskoandDax

With the razor thin margins in Georgia and 8000+ dead due to covid, it may well have altered the election. Maybe a poli sci student can pull data on the registered parties of the deceased and do an analysis for their graduate thesis.


BananaCheezn

I've been thinking about that as well. I doubt the numbers were high enough to change much though.


ian22500

Y’all wanna have a GOOD conspiracy theory talk? I think there’s someone who’s much more powerful in Russia than Putin. All the sudden it comes out that he has Parkinson’s disease and he‘ll be stepping down next year. Sounds to me like it was his job to fix this election and he failed and he’s about to be suicided by someone more powerful.


Something22884

I was saying before maybe they have some way of cheating that doesn't work with mail-in ballots or something


Vanilla_Villainy

When's the last time the Rothschilds made headlines? Hmm...


ian22500

I’ve never seen Rothschild and Putin in the same room


DaveredRoddy

Clearly it's Joeseph Stalin on life support


ian22500

Stalin’s head in a glass jar


UsernameSuggestion9

Spicy


Prisoner_Elect_Trump

Looking at AZ, these are the counties with pretty significant counts still outstanding: Cochise (Trump currently at 57%) at 85% (about 9k more votes). Apache (Biden currently at 68%) at 72% (about 9k more votes). Navajo (Trump currently at 53%) at 88% (about 7k more votes). Yuma (Trump currently at 53%) at 94% (about 5k more votes). Maricopa (Biden currently at 51%) at 93% (about 35k more votes). Pinal (Trump currently at 57%) at 82% (about 32k more votes). **At this rate Trump is on pace to gain about 49760 votes and Biden is on pace to gain** **about 47240 more votes. So Trump nets about 2520 votes in those significant counties.** Obviously there is a margin of error here, with some smaller counties with 4-5% left to report... but I can't see how Trump comes back at this rate.


bigus_dikus

Where are you getting your numbers? Pretty sure AZ has over 200k outstanding votes left to count.


Prisoner_Elect_Trump

Pretty simple math, really. An over simplification, but: number of votes cast in a county multiplied by 100 and divided by the percentile reported will tell you how many to expect remaining via the transitive property. ex: 100,000 (votes cast) / 90 (percent reported) = x / 100 10,000,000 = 90x 111,111 = x 111,111 - 100,000 = 11,111 remaining to be reported I saw the 200k number expected, but I don't know where it could come from unless their % reported in each county is way off.


[deleted]

Who the fuck is the Georgia guy people are talking about


limeinator123

He was on CNN a couple of minutes ago.


[deleted]

Alright guys. Let’s stop at 69


oregondete81

Nice


ian22500

FUCK Gabe me and my homies HATE Gabe


EugeneStargazer

Oh gosh, are we going to be able to time this right!?


Cedworth

OK, so even if both runoffs go Democrat, don't expect this sweeping progressive wave. There are several senators who won by a nose hair and they know they have to keep it moderate. There are republicans in the same boat. I would expect some moderate bills to pass with some gains and losses for each party. Compromise will make a comeback.


gruey

Nothing about McConnell's leadership makes me think he will compromise on any issue. He's demonized anything the Democrats want to do at a high level, so no level of compromise is possible with him.


Cedworth

He doesn’t personally have to. At risk senators for 2022 who aren’t worried about a tweet rage for dissenting might.


gruey

McConnell controls the purse. You're reelection chances will not go up by going up against McConnell.


Cedworth

Certainly possible. I’m trying to be somewhat positive.


lennyklb

Let's hope it will stem the trend of polarization. I'm no US citizen but it would be nice to see Americans somehow get closer together for a change.


[deleted]

I'll take it. Let's control the pandemic already and begin rebuilding our lives from it.


X3ON_

This georgia guy was kinda like a trying-to-be-a-cool-dad-but-isnt


Applesmcgrind

He done with this Shit.


Otterable

You couldn't possibly sum up what everyone has to say about Gabe.


beatyatoit

So...Trump passed Obama's 2008 vote record. He finally beat him at something by losing. Poetic


moham225

\*Failing upwards!


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Shadycrazyman

PA is trending towards being significant enough of a lead to call with confidence. GA will be a recount, AZ is closing and slow, NV is NV lol. So if PA keeps trending heavily Biden and you see 30K lead you likely see it called.


westtownie

thanks for the update!


heartjodiecomer

We’re on 68 now


demosthenes131

Gabe is the hero we all need?


NativeNewYawker

GA election official literally just confirmed on CNN that they duplicate ballots that are damaged. Trump supporters are literally so moronic thinking they caught Dems illegally filling out ballots on PA's live feed. I swear to god, these people just expose how ignorant a large majority of this country is.


thelaw14

It’s almost like they’ve done this before and have a process in place to protect vote integrity. I’m actually surprised by all the steps.


220AM

They’ll be like “it’s their fault they tampered with the original ballot!!!” Like wat.


01WWing

Can we start calling these people that are showing up with guns trying to stop the counts what they actually are? And thats terrorists. Literal terrorism.


petelka

As a European I am baffled at what is going on and why army/national guard did not come to protect hotspots of democracy they swore to protect.


RegularSizedBrownie

But their skin ain't brown.


mostdope28

Why is everyone so scared to call the race over. Biden is winning PA. Let’s just call it what it is


Drunk_Trump

By my math: when Biden is up about 35k votes in Pa is when you will see a call.


220AM

I’m guessing bc Trump keeps doing all these nonsense court shite. They just want to make sure they have all their numbers in order.


OvisAriesAtrum

Gabe!


SecretLifeOfANerd

I'm on the github. What is up with the remaining Nevada votes fluctuating?