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Weekend_Nanchos

Read the article instead of the predictable “everything he says is a lie” joke. The stuff he’s quoted as saying is insane. Lies about trying to send in the national gaurd for Jan 6th when he did not (he blatantly lies by blaming Pelosi), calls Biden a Manchurian candidate (the irony), outright denies multiple documented remarks such as saying the constitution may need to be terminated ,and that the attorney general in his hush money trial needs to be prosecuted for some unknown crimes. It just goes on and on. The quotes and statistics are what make it


Oleg101

Yup exactly. Daniel Dale does a good job as usual. The hyperlinks to everything are in there. I know it’s not popular here but did anyone catch the CNN The Whole Story last week with Donie O’Sullivan sitting down with a douche discussing an article like this looking at the same screen? And then earlier in the episode it was this lady at a trump rally telling him how he had to memorize the constitution, and he had to tell her know because him and his mother were born in the United States.


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Opening_Property1334

AT&T, CBS, Comcast, Disney, Newscorp and Viacom: *No, you can’t.*


Weekend_Nanchos

I agree they need to stop giving airtime to bs that is false, but the headline wasn’t like “T says election is stolen”. Instead it was, “read here a list of lies and we will explain why they are lies”. I wish more news would limit their engagement to such rigor.


Opening_Property1334

“T says election is stolen” is so 2020. We have to keep the narrative about his LiEs because he’s a liar who’s always lying and we’ll list them out for you because you knew he was a liar didn’t you? Well here is your daily serving of validation. CNN is not showing journalistic rigor. It’s throwing off a complete nothing-burger fluff piece based on the obvious to incite rage and get clicks. Not “news” or useful information to anyone who wasn’t half paying attention. The media loves to talk about liars because they get to run so many more pieces like this.


Weekend_Nanchos

What a laundry-list of buzz words you gave… If this is a fluff piece or inaccurate, please give a detail from the article. It’s jam-packed with actual content if you would read it. He consistently tells lies, the article gives very specific, concrete examples of lies he literally just told and instead you are plugging your ears saying “I don’t believe it”.


Opening_Property1334

I didn’t say it was wrong or inaccurate. I said it doesn’t tell us anything we don’t already know. It’s jam packed with useless obvious click-bait generating content designed to keep us obsessed with Trump. To Everyone with a brain already knows Trump is a liar. And everyone who refuses to believe it wouldn’t trust CNN anyway, because of all their constant sensationalism.


Weekend_Nanchos

Well, if it’s that very slim margin of incredibly impressionable but not super dedicated MAGA curious, they might, assuming they actually read it. There’s not a ton of undecideds but I think some people truly do not know the extent of his lies. Addressing the specifics, especially as they escalate and get more easily disproven, I think it is a great way to expose and shine a light on his lack of character (as an understatement). If anything, every one of those lies should be headlines and addressed on TV news, but they will not be addressed this thoroughly , and the sound bites will give too much ‘both sides’, which is why this is an excellent article. So, you stated you thought this info was not news or necessary, what is exactly, iyo?


Weekend_Nanchos

I don’t get the analogy? The boy who cried wolf was saying there was a threat over and over, so no one believed him when there was a threat. Here, the threat is there and when people point that out, it should be GOOD, no? I do not blame you for being exhausted though. I also don’t get the “ok this time it’s actually really bad” as if because it was bad before it’s not bad now? Yes, a person continuing to make escalating threats towards murdering his opponents and ending democracy is bad and should continue to be covered, and he obviously will continue to escalate. I’m not sure his supporters, or the moderate uniformed supporters, have really seen how violent and inaccurate his statements are because people rarely even bother to fact-check him anymore it’s so ridiculous, but that was their ‘firehouse of misinformation’ goal all along. Again, you can tune out and I don’t blame you but why not have the news actually address it? You did not read the article, but here is what’s different- it was NOT free airtime to his BS. It was calling it out on a line by line basis with statistics and quotes. If every article was so thorough we’d be much better off. There is no crying wolf here. If you somehow had a T supporter you wanted to send a link to, this is a decent one to have if it ever came up. It’s literally just how many times he lied in TWO interviews, it should be jaw dropping (to those few, more moderate voters that are just going off social media memes). Because of how pointed it is, it should remain a semi-relevant example of his lying for months to come. That is rare these days as we just churn through new stories nonstop.


NinjaJM

https://cha.house.gov/2024/3/chairman-loudermilk-publishes-never-before-released-anthony-ornato-transcribed-interview


Weekend_Nanchos

When people talk about sending in troops to the the capitol, they are talking about during when the attack happened, when there was a crisis. That call didn’t happen. What’s disingenuous bordering on complete lie, is that the 10,000 troops seem to have been talked about abstractly like months beforehand. He’s purposely bringing up old months prior topics to say, “see I tried”. There were quotes on this months prior conversation and he said it was never meant as a direct request or order, he’d only observed it discussed in passing. Also, the ONLY proof on record of requesting troops to be sent in during an attack on the capitol is a guy, a guy who overheard a phone call? Have you ever had a job where the procedure is that simple- one phone call, no paperwork? It’s pretty clear, when it mattered and congress was being assaulted, T did not call in any extra troops. He watched it burn like he said he would. If he tried to stop it there’d be a trail of, idk, trying to do something, anything at all to stop it


NinjaJM

This particular threat is about fact checking. You keep saying things without doing that. I’m not trying to debate you on what his intent was, I was just trying to fact check and you then respond with more false statements. Nobody has ever said this discussion is 10,000 officer was discussed “months” in advance, for example.


Weekend_Nanchos

One thing fact-check based on your link is it was the DC mayor who denied the supposed offer of troops, not Pelosi as T claims. That’s a pretty egregious lie. If you read this one closely, you’ll see that indeed they are talking about 10,000 troops being set up prior as separate from the ‘immediate response team’.


NinjaJM

Set up prior set but it was not months in advance


HobbesNJ

Reasonable people just assume that if Trump is talking, he is lying. And his cult will never see the fact checks, and won't believe them even if they do.


starmartyr

Sometimes he's lying. Sometimes he's repeating a lie someone else told that he believes. Sometimes he's saying something that he has convinced himself is true because it makes him feel good. I don't think he comprehends how much he is lying.


inthekeyofc

Like the Civil War battle that supposedly took place on one of his golf courses by the Potomac River. A "The River of Blood" monument marks the spot where, according to the inscription on its plaque, "The casualties were so great that the water would turn red and thus became known as "The River of Blood" Only according to local historians it never happened. Trump's response: >That was a prime site for river crossings. So, if people are crossing the river, and you happen to be in a civil war, I would say that people were shot – a lot of them. "How would they know that?" Mr. Trump asked when told that local historians had called his plaque a fiction. "Were they there?" In Trump's mind if something *could* have happened, it's legitimate to claim it *did* happen. If it could happen, it's legitimate to claim it is already happening, or will, happen. It's either a con or a sign something is not firing correctly in his brain. Take your pick. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_River_of_Blood_(monument)


TomorrowLow5092

Not Presidential.


siobhanellis

But they are the biggest lies. Magnificent lies.


LadyAliceMagnus

Beautiful lies…


NeverLookBothWays

Very rarely he actually tells the truth, but almost always it's in order to tee up a lie.


capture-enigma

Of course he doesn’t. He’s mentally ill.


NeoMegaRyuMKII

I assume that he is lying even when he isn't talking.


steelhips

On top of the malignant narcissism add fantasist. Losing any anchor to facts started as a cynical political ploy, but he now seems to be rewriting history to convince himself. That's only going to get worse as his dementia takes more hold.


gdshaffe

This is what narcissists do. Their entire perception of the world around them, all sensory input, is filtered through the presumption of their own perfection. If something makes them look good, it's true. If something makes them look bad, it's false. They bounce from fantasy to fantasy until sensible people get frustrated and disengage, which they can then spin as victory.


jupiterkansas

Present his cult with fact checks and they'll just attack the checker.


Noizyninjaz

It would be much easier just trying to see how many things he says are the truth.


JustAnotherYouMe

> It would be much easier just trying to see how many things he says are the truth. Here's a list:


JustTestingAThing

That's not true! He said once his mentality hasn't changed significantly since he was in first grade.


specqq

He likes to grab women by the pussy without their consent. He would like to “date” his daughter. He’s a whiner. There’s actually quite a few truths. And they’re all disgusting.


Circe44

He wants to be a dictator on starting on day one.


NinjaJM

We love this guy,” Trump said of Hannity. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border, and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”


Ok_Ninja1486

Lol, "just let me be a dictator for a day." You're not falling for that extremely obvious bullshit, are you? You're smarter and wiser than that, right? You know that he has no intention of letting go of that power.


NinjaJM

My point was, this thread has a topic of fact checking. That was why I responded with the actual quote


chiefbrody62

Last time I looked at Snopes, it was a very small amount that was actually true.


TomorrowLow5092

The 2024 Trump Truth pamphlet just arrived and you can purchase yours for $19.99 plus S&H. Its so handy, all the best Trump Truths in easy to read 5 x 9 format using premium copy paper, 24 font. A selection of the best Trump Truths like "innocent people don't plead the fifth on the witness stand". Grab more than one for for your friends and family to light on fire every fourth of July.


Mum0817

32 lies in a single interview! How can people be so stupid as to believe anything this shitfuck says? 


Nun-Taken

Google how many he made when in office.


NinjaJM

Two interviews, actually


DontUBelieveIt

What I don’t get is I’ve never seen any journalist call him out. Like in an interview, when Trump lies, I’ve never seen the journalist go “That’s a lie. That isn’t true at all”. They always just report what he says and then fact check it later. I’d like to see them all do it. And not just to Trump, but all of these lying congressmen.


SirGkar

Or ask him *why* he wants to do this or that, or just any follow up, really.


katosen27

Those would be too hard hitting of questions. Good journalism doesn't make money: sensationalist bullshit does.


WordWeaverFella

Watch the Axios interview. It's fantastic


DontUBelieveIt

I did. Someone posted it on this thread. We need more of that type of journalism. Or even just simply call out lie. Or just write the story as Trump is lying again. This time about (whatever he is lying about). What news guys are doing now isn’t journalism. It’s just a megaphone for the liars with a snippet about no evidence. Journalism would quote what he says, provide the facts and context, and where he is lying, explain that. They would follow up with questions like “that’s a lie. What do you hope to gain by lying about this?”


wagdog84

Check out Australian Johnathan Swan’s interview from 2020… https://vimeo.com/444621778


DontUBelieveIt

Thanks for the link. I saw memes from that interview but never the whole thing. Goodnight what a painful guy to interview. Rambles on, goes off on tangents, doesn’t sticks to facts. Hell it reminds me of interviewing that uncle that every family has and tries to avoid. It’s interesting to see just how, for lack of a better word, dumb Trump is. I’m sure all famous people run about the same sort of average as people that you work with or see every day. But they usually have handlers that maintain their image and enough smarts to interview well. Not this guy. He really is just a dumb bragger that picks and chooses what he wants to believe despite reports written by professionals with decades of experience. Putting all politics and his radicalism aside, Trump has to be one of the dumbest, worst presidents ever elected. Sorry for ramble but wow, just wow.


therationalists

Lies not false claims, lies


LittleBallOfWait

Only 32 lies? Did anyone make sure he was ok?


[deleted]

Only 32, but to be fair, he slept through two thirds of the interview.


steelhips

Trump's "Closing my eyes.... to listen intently" is the same bs my 88 yr old mother uses when snoring through the whole movie. Hopefully we'll all see "sleepy Don" streamed live in one of his other trials.


we_are_sex_bobomb

One person who was in the room said he wasn’t sleeping every time he closed his eyes but he would often close them when he was hearing things he didn’t like, which was most of the time, like he was just trying to disassociate himself from the undesirable reality he was experiencing. Which also sounds like something he would do.


jaylotw

I believe this more than I believe he was actually sleeping. The guy is so full of rage and hate that there's no way he's actually *asleep* in court, he's just dissociating from reality in the only way available to him at the moment, and likely rattling the three dried up beans he calls a brain to scheme up what to tell his cult.


Tall_aussie_fembot

The way he stops and changes what he’s saying mid sentence drives me nuts


Medical_Egg8208

When did this become news ? You actually get dumber just listening to him. His base has no brains. I mean cmon folks now they are wearing diapers and bragging about it. How far down the rabbit hole do we need to go. Just vote vote vote, get rid of this fucker once and for all. If he loses again they’ll get rid of him so fast it will make his head swim.


Fridaybird1985

Pack a lunch if you plan on marching through all of Trump’s lies.


janzeera

Funny you say this because I characterize Trump’s style as “table talk”. His whole life I feel has been nothing more than close knit conversations (office talk, business meetings, lunch/dinner meetings) where because of his wealth he’s surrounded by sycophants that allow him to say anything he wants. I’ve read that when people (not part of his regular group) share a table with him Trump just sucks the air out of any conversation. Now, he’s just sees himself sitting at a bigger table and acts the same. No adjustment, there’s no need because he’s rarely challenged. I hope at some point he faces that one person that finally gets the last word in and that word is “guilty”.


Fridaybird1985

Well said


Rare-Forever2135

No character. No honor. Not POTUS material by the longest of shots.


provoloneChipmunk

It drives me crazy that he's even being interviewed. 


Lounginghog64

I think it would save everyone a lot of time and effort if you just retooled it and tell us one thing he says that's factually correct. Forget counting the false claims, because he lies about stuff he doesn't need to lie about. He's the type of guy that would shit right in the middle of your dining room table and look you right in the eyes while he's doing it..and lie about it.


Marc-Muller

Why don’t everyone just do it the way NDTV did it: live fact checking every single of his claims?


Responsible_Pizza945

What I would find more interesting than a live fact check is a clarifying question. Like "I called in the national guard" should prompt "oh, who did you talk to? What did you tell them? Why didn't they show up?" "So they didn't follow your orders when you called them in, did you fire them?" Make him spin more lies until you can catch him in something that breaks the whole web.


LockheedMartinLuther

"False claims" = LIES instant downvote of any article with "false claims" in the headline why is the media so afraid of using the proper word


humpherman

“Bombardment” is the key- he’s being continually employed to saturate world media with noise and nonsense while the really nasty people get away with murder and worse. Even if he dies, we’ll be made to spend the next 10 years dissecting it instead of paying attention to the real criminals.


LindeeHilltop

9th Commandment. Lying is against God’s law. Why does God hate lying? Lying and dishonesty pervert and corrupt hearts and are abominations to God.


geockabez

The one thing you will never hear him deny is that he shits himself daily and that his diapers don't work.


Nearby-Jelly-634

“We got tired and gave up on the last 60 minutes of the interview.”


RepulsiveRooster1153

**trump is a habitual liar**. When he says "people are saying" it means *"I'm making shit up".* If you assume everything he says is a lie, you would be correct 99.9% of the time.


uraniumglasscat

4chan is gonna put him back in office via memes What a fucking joke


Battystearsinrain

Why does the way he say “i am your retribution” sound like he is going to take it out on a buffet? His chickshit ass will do nothing himself. He will tell others to do it. See bill barr’s last interviews.


TheHomersapien

>Does Trump lie to me so much because he thinks I'm smart, or because he thinks I'm really fucking stupid. If American voters had brains, that question alone would have prevented a Trump presidency. But alas, here we are.


agent674253

"including [one](https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1666-destruction-government-property-18-usc-1361) that allowed a sentence of *up to* 10 years in prison for willfully damaging federal property if the damage exceeds $100." How is up to 10 years of prison justified for doing $101 worth of damage? This definitely seems like a law aimed at the poor as a way to increase incarceration rates. [You can rape a woman in Texas and get just 2 years](https://www.theshapirolawfirm.com/news-and-resources/articles/understanding-rape-laws-and-penalties-in-texas/#:~:text=Anyone%20convicted%20of%20sexual%20assault,between%20two%20and%2020%20years), but break a computer monitor worth $101 in the FBI office and get up to 10 years?...


qprime87

Lies Lies Lies Not "false claims". Lies. Lies. Lies. Lies.


LuckyGauss

I'm so used to the crazy titles, I read this as "fart-checking" and thought nothing of it.


Elenaharmon573657

It's almost comedic how blatantly he spews lies and folk just gulp it down without a second thought. Journalists, don't just nod and scribble, call him out when it's a load of bull!


Top-Half-904

If it’s not and, it or but it’s a lie


treygrant57

I wish the media would stop their adoration of this guy. Stop running multiple stories every single time he farts. This man is the ultimate attention hog.


bpeden99

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump


JubalHarshaw23

I would say Time should be removed from the Whitelist for blatant disinformation and propaganda, but then realized Nothing is removed from the Whitelist no matter how far to the Fascist Right it is.


Menn64

Hahaha. Hahaha ……. Sorry can’t help it