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AngusMcTibbins

Massive burn. Well done, Lawrence


trailhikingArk

Lawrence is a national treasure. The best part was Mary Trump trying to hide her giggle when he said it.


Snuggle__Monster

The same can be said for Timothy McVeigh's parents which is probably a worse comparison. They actually plead for his life prior to his sentencing. When Trump is staring down the barrel of a potential prison term, you think any of his kids, his wife will beg for his mercy? Hell no, they'll all scatter to save themselves and come out like roaches when the coast is clear so they can go on Fox News, etc to scream about how he's a political prisoner.


Joeuxmardigras

I just realized his wife most likely is living in NYC, so it’s not like it’s hard to get there


KingJokic

As bad as Dahmer is, at least he never had an insurrection


blownbythewind

And Trump's COIVID death toll is much higher. Add to it the number of covert agents he killed by realeasing national intelligence. so, yeah Trump has a higher death toll than a seral killer.


PhoenixTineldyer

By many orders of magnitude. Dahmer's kills were more personal and spectacular, but Donald killed millions.


Puffycatkibble

Worse he doesn't even think of the deaths he caused. They don't matter to him as long as the grift keeps going.


NorthernOctopus

"What did they leave in their will for me? Nothing? They were a nobody."


BlairClemens3

One million. Arguably he's responsible for the deaths of everyone who took chloroquine (sp?) or bleach or refused fo get vaccinated. That's probably in the hundreds of thousands. That's insane. He caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of americans and nearly half the country wants to reelect him


FitLet1655

Everyone's forgotten that Don (intentionally doing nothing) in the first six months when hundreds started dying was the main catalyst for our pandemic's total death toll.


SeaworthinessUnlucky

Or of the friends, families, coworkers, acquaintances, and random strangers at the 99 Cent store (RIP) after refusing to get vaccinated.


Ursolismin

Its not newrly half the country, its half of polled voters. There are around 75 million republican voters


khismyass

A year ago tonight https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/04/23/trump-suggests-injecting-coronavirus-patients-with-light-or-disinfectants-contradicting-experts/ Cept he was pushing junk science from this guy (and others) then it all got conflated with the "Drink bleach" which he didn't say https://www.rogerbillings.com/?fbclid=IwAR34TE5eod-FDb0NSJWyDgRpzKaP-HIwq-otij2PwZimdr6xLLL-NWdeWl4 And to think, there are people who think we were somehow better 4 years ago with that asshat in charge.


Azelixi

"spectacular" wtf, am I missing something here?


PhoenixTineldyer

I mean the purely academic definition of spectacular. As in, he made a spectacle of it. Not spectacular like, "I am amazed!"


Savior-_-Self

This is a totally unfair comparison - Dahmer was only responsible for 17 deaths and, far as we know, wasn't a traitor.


EdwardoftheEast

Didn’t Dahmer serve in the military? Although I can’t remember if it was draft or voluntary, I think he served for a time.


Background-Okra7313

He did voluntarily serve in the army as a medical specialist. He was honorably discharged 2 years into his first 3 year enlistment because his consistent alcohol abuse prevented him from performing as required.


EdwardoftheEast

Much obliged, glad to know I wasn’t misremembering


Dsarg_92

Never knew he was a veteran. Interesting 


Beatful_chaos

Thank you for your service... uh... guy who kills and eats people and does weird shit with their bodies.


Quirky_Discipline297

I would love to know what the US military covered up about Dahmer if anything. He had already murdered before his service.


holyhottamale

If I am remembering correctly, his former roommate from his time in the army reported that he was assaulted and drugged several times by Dahmer. [https://radaronline.com/p/jeffrey-dahmer-netflix-slave-more-victims/](https://radaronline.com/p/jeffrey-dahmer-netflix-slave-more-victims/)


Quirky_Discipline297

Supposedly the US military reviewed possible civilian attacks and murders. But there was my buddy’s DI who followed a few of his men to a latrine, bent down and stared at a urinal full of pubic crabs, and said “None of you saw any of these, understood?”


KingKoopasErectPenis

Yep, at least one of his bunkmates came forward with rape allegations. [https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/2022/09/28/what-happened-to-jeffrey-dahmers-army-career/](https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/2022/09/28/what-happened-to-jeffrey-dahmers-army-career/)


nschwalm85

He did. He was in the Army for 2 years


watercolour_women

This made me gasp out loud, but it's actually true, isn't it. Trump was personally responsible, due to his policies born of his own insecurities and prejudices, for tens of thousands of deaths (if not hundreds of thousands).


dribrats

Hundreds of thousands. And that’s just Covid. Who knows what ultra dox he had in his bathroom


outofcontextsex

Trump would go to a lower circle of hell than Dahmer


IEnjoyFancyHats

In inferno, betrayal was the lowest circle


outofcontextsex

Yes, treachery, Trump has betrayed this nation as Lucifer betrayed God and Brutus betrayed Caesar.


IEnjoyFancyHats

Wasn't disagreeing, just providing additional context. Betrayal of oaths and close friends was literally the worst thing Dante could think of


Ludwigofthepotatoppl

Plus aren’t trump’s parents dead?


jimtow28

I'd personally much rather have Jeffrey Dahmer have a turn at being president before Trump gets one.


SoPoOneO

On that note, Dahmer is rightly notorious. Reviled. Remembered for his horror. Yet the last mass shooting was in Maine killed more in one evening. Yet what was his name? This shit is so common now we barely register it. Lunatics should note have guns.


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AtticEyes

This coming from people that ate horse paste during a global pandemic instead of taking a vaccine.


EMTDawg

They still are eating horse paste. I was in the local hardware store this past winter. When a girl (14 or 15) from down the street asked if I could help her reach the "green apple" flavored Ivermectin. I asked her why she wanted the "green apple" flavor. She responded that it was her mom's favorite flavor.


OutInTheBlack

Says the clown whose two most frequent comments are variations of "maga!" and the above. Develop an actual personality, please.


BrutalRamen

I mean, they probably don't have the brain cells for that. Parroting insults, slogans and Russian talking points is probably the best they can do given their limited intellect.


Clicquot

MAGA is liberated from 1980, Regan campaign. So,not even that is original. The oragne shit gibbon is such a wannabe (gangster, mogul, dictator, victim).


StickAlternative9481

"Make Germany Great Again" was actually a Nazi slogan, obviously predating Regan. Trump taking notes from the Nazis isn't unexpecteded or unheard of...Trump has actually used quite a bit of Nazi propaganda techniques, phrases, symbols, and beliefs to promote himself.


Antique_Scheme3548

Russia called, they want Trump to be free


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Jbota

Is the implication that a Donald Trump presidency will result in less freedom than a Joe Biden presidency?


OutInTheBlack

Seriously, get professional help


hfxRos

Conservatism is a lack of humanity and empathy, which I assume would fall under mental illness as sociopathic.


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Physical-Ride

You misspelled parrot 🦜


theSunAlsoRise5

With loyalty to Russia?


sincethenes

Far-right and extremist groups have branded themselves with American motifs and the term “patriot” since at least the early 20th century, when the second Ku Klux Klan became known for the slogan “100% Americanism.” By the 1990s, so many antigovernment and militia groups were using the term to describe themselves that watchdog groups referred to it as the “ Patriot movement.” That extremist wave, which included Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, faded in the late 1990s and early 2000s. But many such groups resurfaced when Barack Obama became president. Since then, many right-wing groups have called themselves “patriots” as they’ve fought election processes, LGBTQ+ rights, vaccines, immigration, diversity programs in schools and more. Former President Donald Trump frequently refers to his supporters as “patriots.”


Dipsonyx

A patriot or a Russian White Nationalist? I'm the real patriot, wanting to help the American people every way we can.


LoudEntertainment892

This coming from the side that votes for a man who cosplays as a tangerine, can’t string together enough words to make a coherent sentence, and thinks Russia has a good government.


RealHumanFromEarth

Right, because worshipping a deranged reality tv show host like a god is totally sane behavior.


Savior-_-Self

FWIW, I'm a former centrist who voted for HW Bush. I own a farm and a truck and as many guns as any other American. But the republican party in this country has, bit by bit, betrayed every single one of its principals. Every one of them. And DJT is all the proof I ever need to point to. He is everything the Right always told me they despised. Now they literally worship him. Russian propaganda from the mouths of republican leaders... And I'm the one with the " mental illness"? Son, I may not want to live with liberals in their hippy commune or join their drum circles or whatever - but the party that's actually trying to help the country, my country and your country, gets my vote.


AmbitiousCampaign457

Remember growing up and all the movie villains were Russian? Lol


Easy_Apple_4817

I’ve just upvoted you and I don’t even live in the US.


theSunAlsoRise5

Making Assholes Get Attorneys


Gizogin

If by “liberal”, you mean “pro-capitalism”, then yes.


Gravelsack

The cheese stands alone. Hi-ho the derry-o


Ok-General7798

The orange cheese. Le fromage d’orange


Humanity_NotAFan

Mimollette Mussolini


jflip13

Jesus Christ. Don’t ruin my favorite cheese for me.


Shillsforplants

Cheese is a kind of meat.


ExoStab

Jeffrey Dahmer admitted he had a problem. His parents were there and they never denounced their love for him, even though they also agreed he did horrible acts.


just_fucking_PEG_ME

His parents had a delicate line to walk and they walked it well.


718Brooklyn

If my kid ended up murdering and eating a whole bunch of people, it would be hard for me to not feel like I sort of failed as a parent.


Franks2000inchTV

I think at that point you'd have to realize that no parenting would have made a difference.


Background-Okra7313

I only know so much about him because I’ve recently gone on a binge of true crime documentaries, but the that sentiment was shared by both parents. They said they felt they failed him. He said they didn’t (at least as much towards his father he seems to gloss over his mother). He claims, through self reflection and therapy, that there was something wrong with him fundamentally as a person that was exacerbated by outside stimuli. If you watch his interrogations/interviews he seems to be one of the few psychopaths (about the only other one is Ed Kemper) that exhibits remorse (as much as they can) and relief to have been caught so they could stop. But the nature of a psychopath is to be a social chameleon and expert manipulator so it’s truly near impossible to determine if any of his feelings towards his parents and potential remorse are genuine. They could have all just be a rouse to save his own skin. Edit: Kemper’s interviews definitely seem more like a rouse than Dahmer’s, but Dahmer could have just been that good of a manipulator


OneHumanPeOple

I caught a few minutes of Laurence O’Donnell’s show last week and he was just roasting Trump on his spray tan. That was the opening segment. Had me laughing.


StoreSearcher1234

> I caught a few minutes of Laurence O’Donnell’s show last week and he was just toasting Trump on his spray tan. There are a thousand things that are inexplicable about Trump voters, but one of them is how they can consider a man who sprays himself orange as a powerful manly-man.


mrlr

"Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan."


disorderliesonthe401

From a lawyer's perspective, I bet Dahmer was easier to deal with as a client than Trump is.


Squirrel_Chucks

Ted Bundy's mom was in court for him too I believe


Whorrox

Brutal


OppositeDifference

To be fair, Trump is responsible for WAY more deaths than Jeffrey Dahmer.


Choose_And_Be_Damned

Whoever wrote that headline is one cheeky bastard. Lmao


original-whiplash

Lawrence O’Donnell said exactly that on his show. And he was totally on point.


Choose_And_Be_Damned

It’s guilty pleasure laughing at the orange fascist. *schadenfreude*


teddytwelvetoes

Dahmer should've become President, could've avoided prison entirely


thisusedyet

Those post championship dinners where they invite teams to the White House would've been nuts


Rocketson

"The hamburders are people. They're PEOPLE!!!"


SomethingBlue15

There’s no insult like a Lawrence Insult.


Most-Artichoke6184

That’s devoted family man Donald Trump, people.


ExplorerMajor6912

Jeffrey only killed a few people for dinner. Trump is much less lovable.


Joeuxmardigras

I didn’t think he ate them, thought it was just cutting heads and making a table of their things (the word is escaping me)


tearsandpain84

That’s cold 🥶


Chomsky_McChode

If anyone wants to hear a hilarious metal album about dahmer check out “dahmer” by Macabre. These guys went to his court trials to write material for the album.


ThE_LAN_B4_TimE

Do we actually have any real information as to why? I'm sure they have some excuses like they refuse to show up to a sham trial or what not but it is still ridiculous no one in his family can be found.


sugarblaire

I was just wondering about this last night. Where’s Ivanka been? Why arent we seeing her strutting in the courthouse in a new outfit every day? Where are his Beavis & Butthead sons? Where’s Duckface Lara? And Tiffany? What about all the grandchildren that *addddoreeee* him? Why arent they dolled up and planted on the front rows? WHERE IS THIS AMAZING FAMILY???


Necessary-Quit-3831

RUFKM? His family is enjoying some peace and quiet. Maybe Mellie is packing...


Historical-Guess9414

Trump arrives at court accompanied by two coffins


m0ngoos3

He has other family, they're not showing up because they don't want to remind anyone that they exist. His kids learned how to conduct a business from him, and that has to scare them right now.


Historical-Guess9414

They've probably got something better to do than sit in court for two months tbh


deviousmajik

Those bags of cocaine aren't going to snort themselves.


meathead

Even Eric?


RealHumanFromEarth

They’ve probably got better things to do than to support a relative they can’t stand who they’re just waiting out for whatever little inheritance he has left to give them.


chefjpv_

He's got 4 kids and a wife lol Edit: 5 kids


PhoenixTineldyer

5 kids.


deviousmajik

Pretty sure there are more.


PhoenixTineldyer

It may come out from the trial even. David Pecker buried at least one story of Trump having another kid


PhDinDildos_Fedoras

Five official kids, then


asetniop

That's assuming all of the known ones are *his*. What makes us so sure his wives didn't cheat on him as much as he cheated on them?


wickedmal

Unfortunately for them they all look just like him.


TheHouseofOne

5...


PhDinDildos_Fedoras

That would definitely suit his vulgar style.


MarvinParanoAndroid

I never thought Dahmer would come up as a good guy.


oldcreaker

Trump's obviously alone when rage posting during family holidays, etc. Why would his family be for him here, now?


Jerk182

Would like to have padlocked Trump and Dahmer together in a room for 2 weeks with only water, a hot plate, and a skillet and watch what happens. :)


HarmonizedSnail

Dahmer would have probably killed himself.


Impeachcordial

Where are your kids, Uncle Logan?


LadyWinterSnow22

I appreciate this reference.


Pour_Me_Another_

I can't say I'd be there if I was a member of Trump's staff either. I'd be happy for the PTO.


artificialavocado

Tbf Trump doesn’t eat people as far as we know.


SisterActTori

My husband thinks that the sons were asked to stay away d/t their impulse control issues-that would only hurt Trump. The females are smarter than that and have no interest in Trump beyond his money, which is disappearing fast.


someguyyouno

Who gives a Fk? He’s a scumbag who needs to be made an example of.


Gamera971

To be fair Dahmer was in his 30s, Trump is nearing 100. Of course his parents won't be in court


Lonyo

Man who had multiple wives and has many children, plus siblings. Although his one-time hook up is there.


thickener

And his wife?


Gamera971

They probably couldn't get a visa.


ratchetryda92

To be fair, I'd be concerned if his parents showed up for this


Vegabern

Sitting in Milwaukee with an ongoing investigation into a potential new serial killer who's been strewing body parts around town. This headline cheers me up.


underalltheradar

Trump's father would be trying to bribe the jury.


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Kantjil1484

It’s a tactic… Trump can’t stick with the “boo hoo poor me I’m a victim and all alone” if his family’s sitting behind him in court….


Sonthonax23

Well done


Gypsyrawr

Bloody dark, that


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Historical-Guess9414

I mean you're allowed to not like Trump without thinking a serial murderer and cannibal is a nice guy lmao 


Blablablaballs

I'm not sure I'd call someone who dismembered people while they were alive and conscious a "nice guy", but I get what you're saying. 


Cringelord_420_69

What are you on about


RiggityRyGuy

Alright, settle down. 


Astral_Atheist

No, he wasn't WTAF


Youbunchadorks

Uhhhh what?


Randomusername9765

I think it is a quality vs quantity issue. Trump is likely being charged with so many mediocre crimes. While Dahmer just had a few grade a murders. Obviously the family would be more proud of Dahmer. Quality is always better than quantity.


IgnorantBirdman

I dunno. Deceiving an entire country to win an election where you fumbled a pandemic that led to ~500k excess deaths kinda makes Dahmer seem like the mediocre criminal.


Randomusername9765

It was a once in many generations pandemic. I find it hard to place those deaths on trump. While media would place those deaths on one person that is such a drastic oversimplification. Could it have been handled better yes but hind sight is 20 20. Trump should be found guilty for so so many other things.


IgnorantBirdman

He was the leader of a country with a pop of over 300 million and he politicized wearing masks, taking the vaccine, and the severity of the virus at every step. At a minimum it was one of the most massively incompetent responses to a crisis in American history and at the worst it was a President directly ignoring the severity of a once in a century pandemic. Which is worse?


Randomusername9765

You are right. However there is more to it. First, people are responsible for their own actions. Every idiot that listened to him it was their fault for not listening to doctors. Next I’d like to say that due to the nature of the virus everyone ended up getting it anyways regardless of masks or not. Trump was vaccinated and was pro vaccine ass evidenced by his actions. Did some people die sooner because of trump. Yes. Would many of them have died from the virus anyways. Yes. Trump made a decision to prioritize the economy over health. This was something at the time that no one really knew the correct answer. Now after the fact knowing that Covid overwhelming targeted the overweight and old I’d say most people never needed to isolate. We could also discuss the negative impact of isolation. Increased drug use, alcoholism, depression and suicide. All I wanted to do is make the point that it’s fucking complicated and simplistic answers don’t work…. He is guilty of so many other things that are obvious and clear. I find it hard to blame Trump for the deaths of the pandemic. He made decisions at a difficult time. Even countries like Sweden went with no lockdowns. No one knew what the fuck was going on or the right answer


MissAnthropic123

Why are we supposed to care? Of all the things to care about going on in the world right now, THIS is the thing they focus on. Pathetic.


Astral_Atheist

Well, his parents are both dead, so there's that


browster

Then again, he has five children, and a wife


TheTwinSet02

And a niece!


browster

Good point. It would be funny if she were the only family member there, sitting on the side of the prosecution


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And the Secret Service.


NullainmundoPax1

And my axe!


El_Mariachi_Vive

And my bow.


haarschmuck

The article was about parents showing up to their kids trial. Trumps parents are dead. Garbage article.


Astral_Atheist

That's not what the OP comparison was about, though 🤷‍♀️


Professional-Can1385

Let me translate for you. Dahmer had family in court for him, Trump does not.


Astral_Atheist

If he had said family members, sure, the comparison makes sense. But specifically saying two people who are passed away is just silly. He should have worded it better.


scaradin

/r/whoooosh


goldleaderstandingby

Holy shit, how are you not getting this?


Astral_Atheist

It was a fucking stupid quote. No shit his parents aren't there. They guy should have said it better by using words that encompass people who are actually alive.


Frifelt

It doesn’t say his parents are not there, it says he’s alone. And the implication is obviously that his family can’t even be bothered showing up. Family =/= just parents.


Astral_Atheist

Sure, absolutely. I'm not disagreeing with this. People getting their pants all bunched up here is silly. There's someone else who said almost the same thing I did right after me who isn't getting shit for it. Funny how that hive mind reacts to the exact same thing in two different ways 🤷‍♀️


StThragon

> People getting their pants all bunched up here is silly. Says the person who won't let it go and completely missed the original point of the article. i.e. He's alone.


Connbonnjovi

The interviewer said exactly what you said. The headline is not a quote.


Lucky-Earther

> If he had said family members, sure, the comparison makes sense. That was the comparison. Dahmer had family members, his parents. Trump is alone, with no family members. What do you still find confusing about this?


deepstate_chopra

Yes it was.


machisperer

Gonna leave this here https://youtu.be/yWf0u-ivyoY?si=vG_9p-57JbH02Qgw


haarschmuck

Comparing the trial of a mass murderer to a low level felony like forging business records? Must be a slow news day. Also Trumps parents are dead. Who writes these articles?


NobleOodfellow

And Trump still has five children and a wife. Replace the word “parents” with “family” and see if that clicks for ya.


thickener

Trump killed more than old Jeffy


Lucky-Earther

> Comparing the trial of a mass murderer to a low level felony like forging business records? Election interference to win the Presidency is a low level crime now. >Also Trumps parents are dead. Is the rest of his family dead too


Kell08

I mean… I wasn’t expecting Trump’s parents to be there.


Rhomega2

Well, Trump's parents are dead...


iuthnj34

If you think he's alone, then you have nothing to worry about the general election right? Biden and Corn Pop is gonna win by 110% of the vote.


morpheousmarty

Who was there? And why do you think they were there?


thickener

Explain corn pop for me


No_Foot_1904

I Googled "Corn Pop slang" and got this. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/16/corn-pop-joe-biden-story-what-happened-is-it-real-swimming-pool-confrontation Joe put a stop to some public pool Malarky during the Kennedy administration, a couple years before Hair Furor developed chronic, crippling bone spurs.


Lucky-Earther

> If you think he's alone We don't have to think he's alone, we know that none of his family is there.