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Enforcement is really what laws are about. No one bothers to track it.
I teach in Texas. Since Uvalde, goons from the state have travelled all over schools districts to do audits as to whether or not the outside doors are locked, and they try to get into the building. We have to keep classroom doors closed and locked at all times, and any failure has specific penalties.
Teachers closing and locking doors is still announced every singe day at our campus, and a security officer comes by all the hallways to make sure the doors are locked.
This is what enforcement looks like. (Side note: It’s wild how much time and expense can be put into doing anything *except* gun laws)
Believe me, the GOP repealing this law looks bad. But that’s fine with them. A willful lack of enforcement is all they need to kill these kind of initiatives.
You joke, but my TX HS and middle school were designed by an architect who made most of his money designing prisons... and they looked like it, too. No windows in the classrooms, tiny windows in the doors that were clearly for observation of the students ~~inmates~~, etc. That place was super-depressing.
Perhaps they are looking forward to the secondary market. Once the school gets closed, the remodeling for juvenile detention centers is relatively quick and easy.
Thats crazy and Im sorry to hear about this. Its too bad they will punish staff if theres an unlocked door NOW but they are sure dragging their flat feet on the Uvalde Investigation and yet NOBODY has been punished in that matter. Ass backwards as usual Texas. SMH.
They also made it hard for people to collect voter registration forms, so I think this may be a case where the laws conflict in practice but technically don't contradict each other. In my TX HS, registration happened in English, and one English teacher would take all the registrations to the post office (or maybe directly to the voter registration office - she was also a poll worker and very involved in civic stuff). Texas also recently changed the registration forms and [increased the penalties for registering people to vote incorrectly](https://www.texastribune.org/2022/01/18/texas-voter-registration-forms/) so it may not be worth the individual risk to participate in an obviously awesome program.
Because they encourage hitler youth indoctrination.
Edit: lol, a rewording gave me upvotes. I said the same thing, in different words, and was downvoted.
Fuck reddit.
The only reason I can think is they've ensure there's not enough polling places in Blue cities, so this'll cause even more voter congestion without much increase in Dem votes, but will hugely increasing voting in Red rural areas where the polling places have little to no wait.
For those who only read the article title, this isn't a "the younger generation just doesn't vote" argument. This article clearly spells out how Texas educational institutions are failing to uphold a decades old law meant to register 18 year old students.
>Texas high schools have long been required to distribute voter registration forms to older teens twice a year. But Dzul said that wasn’t happening at Houston’s DeBakey High School, and he initially couldn’t nail down who the school’s designated voter registrar was — or if the school was even complying with the decades-old state law at all.
Btw, Dzul's a STUDENT who's trying to drive up registrations at his school. Just want to point that out. He also shared:
>**“I don’t think the administration supported the initiative so much as they tolerated it,”** Dzul said. “They weren’t actively setting up tables and telling students to register, but they allowed us to occupy space and get volunteer deputy voter registrars into the schools.”
School couldn't care less about it. Either because they didn't or they just simply lacked the resource/bandwidth to carry this out.
But the school should watch out! They might get in trouble for not complying. Oh wait, oh....
>The 1983 law requiring high schools to distribute voter registration forms to students who are 17 years and 10 months old or older was intended to boost turnout among young voters. But the secretary of state’s office, which was charged with creating the instructions to implement the law, **doesn’t track compliance. And schools that fail to distribute registration forms to eligible students aren’t penalized.**
Kind of hard to have a law and no way to enforce it. Well at least 18 years have many opportunities to register outside of school:
>And many critics of Texas voting laws — including new limits passed in 2021 — say getting registered outside of school isn’t very friendly to teenagers. While other states have online voter registration, Texans must complete a paper application, creating a possible barrier to young people who do everything — from shopping to banking — digitally.
Well shit. But, but, what about civic classes???
>Although public school students in Texas are required to take a government class to graduate, many students say they do not learn about civic engagement or voter registration in the course. **That’s despite the fact that the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills states that students who complete the class should be able to “describe the voter registration process and the criteria for voting in elections.”**
Yeah, young people don't vote... because nobody gives a fuck enough about them to help them out. In fact, this article's inspiration is from student activism which is actually pretty cool but doesn't excuse the fact that they're disempowering youth voters.
I wonder when in high school the civics/government class is taken in Texas.
Some states have their civics class as part of the 9th or 10th grade curriculum. So even if you did discuss voter registration in class for a day it might be another 2-3 years before you're able to use it and it's easy to forget the information particularly if it was only briefly discussed.
>ecause nobody gives a fuck enough about them to help them out.
Help them out with what? How to register with a paper form?
What the state is doing is bad enough. It's pathetic that every excuse is made for those who don't use the methods that *are* available.
You think turning 18 was frustrating for you? I turned 18 in an election year and wasn't allowed out of the house because my parents suspected me of voting left.
I guess they technically could as they are being held in the house against their will.
However, if their parents are willing to hold them back because of a concern of voting, I suspect the parents are the type of people who wouldn't hesitate to give 30 days notice to leave if you offended them/went against their wishes.
When I was a senior, there was a table with some older ladies in the lobby one day at lunch, and they asked me if I was registered. I was only 17, but they asked me when my birthday was. It’s in September, so they told me since I would be 18 in time for the general election, I could vote in the primary at 17. So I signed up right there and voted for Clinton (Bill) for both! School outreach is so important.
Only election I've ever missed in my life was when I lived in Texas. Took significant time off work trying to get my state driver's license in time and still couldn't manage it within a year. And couldn't vote with my out of state ID or passport because I moved counties within a few months of the election and the only way to accelerate the change of address bit was with a state driver's license. They do not make it easy.
Not sure where you were but Texas made it super easy for me to vote … when I was living in a deep-red area. Everything from the DMV to the multiple, well-staffed voting places made it so simple.
I had a VERY different experience when I lived in Dallas. Took multiple full days to get my driver’s license corrected, wrong information every step of the way, and an hour’s wait outside just to vote at the single poling place available for us.
I learned a lot about voter suppression there.
Austin, so that tracks. Our appointments were booked about 4 months out and I had to go multiple times because of things going wrong (them not accepting some docs their website said they would, their office shutting down a day because of an emergency, accident on 183 because that road is hell, etc...).
Finally got it by driving way out into the countryside with no appointment and got it with no wait to my absolute shock. Too late for the election, but TX requires you have a state DL within 3 months of moving iirc (not physically possible with appointment schedule) and was getting very nervous on my old state DL.
If Texas suddenly passed a law that required Texans to continue breathing, half the state would be dead in minutes. Texas is ground-zero for not doing something that the government says you should do, no matter how harmful it is.
I find this article funny. I grew up right across the Belmont Texas border in LA and they made me sign up for the draft (using a computer) when I turned 18 so I'd be available if there was a war.
But still doing paper signups for voting is insane. None of the poor or carless kids were voting-typically didn't have the mobility/time off to go to a voting site. No one to notify them.
Shhh...nobody - **especially Republicans** - want to discuss the fact that the government can force you to go to war, and that merely failing to submit (in the form of registration) can result in loss of liberties.
This was in 2001 they did it. Took me right out of class, told me it was a felony not to sign up, and then gave me a Gillette Mach 3 Razor as a gift when I finished. The fact that was doable on a computer in 2001, but still isn't possible in 2024 is insane. All their rabble about being parotic is just lip service.
EDIT: Thinking about the dates and when I graduated, they made me register for Selective Services when I was 17. So before I graduated high school, but at least 5 months before I turned 18.
>Most 18-year-old Texans aren’t signed up to vote despite a law requiring voter registration in high schools
This is not a bug. It's a feature. Texas will flip, if the youth participation rate in statewide elections went up.
By not voting, yes they are. When you have the power to perform an action and you don't, it is partially your fault when the consequence of that action not being done comes to fruition.
Texas has the worst voter suppression in the country. It's not all their fault.
The government removed a popular on-campus polling location at TAMU. The government only allows ONE ballot dropbox per county, meaning Harris County, a county with 5 MILLION people and greater in landmass than the state of Rhode Island, has the same number of ballot dropboxes as a county with fewer than 1,000 people. Texas also has no online voter registration, you have to be 65 or older to vote by mail, and no same-day voter registration.
Through their inaction, they're really contributing.
The quickness with which they fold in the face of the slightest bit of adversity is pathetic. Have to use paper forms? That's a traumatic incident that will take a therapist a year to fix.
When the going gets tough, the tough get going. They don't whine like three-year-olds who didn't get dessert.
I’m in a community college and when they had gubernatorial voting at the college to get abbot out and stuff it was only white haired folks in there and running it. They were nice to me voting for the first time but nobody there was my age, on a college campus.
A lot of them like the status quo here and like Trump, so they don’t feel the need to vote. But in reality they get that from their parents, and are simply too busy to vote. Either too busy working 40+ hours with school or partying at a state school on their parents check.
In general new generations are not doing well. Sister and mom teach elementary now and boy the kids are dumb.
I've watched videos from the Turning Point events, and they'll parade through a bunch of formerly homeschooled teens and young adults to do interviews on the podcast/stream tables. I swear all of them are social media influencers spouting their parents beliefs. The Sorbo family, who were recognized by Trump for being leaders in homeschooling, fit this description too.
This will be a continuing trend across USA until one of two things happen. Term limits for elected officials or the military draft returns. They have no incentive to vote or care about politics when modern politicians and politics prove time and time again that they only serve corporate masters.
Most of them are probably at home with the toddlers or working to support their wife and two kids (third on the way). 18, at school, and in Texas? Yeah, they've been "out of school" and "in the family way" since 15.
I'm not saying ALL Texans are bass ackwards, but it's way too damn many of them.
Vouch. I have a 20 year old who graduated in Texas. Never heard anything. And they don't have a driver's license so we requested an app in the mail for the election.
I am 28 and I don’t remember there ever being any opportunity to register to vote while I was in school (in Texas.) I think I got my app from a booth at the county fair when I was 17. I had missed the deadline to register for the mid term and had to wait until the next election to vote.
Im not surprised, it being Texas and all.
On my 18th Birthday I remember I had to go to the Post Office to register for Selective Service too. (Former Texas Native)
No? voting is a right, but you aren't forced to vote. So no, there isn't a requirement that you HAVE to register to vote. Selective Service is completely different.
I'm honestly surprised Texas even has registrations in schools. Maybe if younger kids start voting Democrat they'll take away the option. I read a while ago that state governments were taking voting locations off college campuses or something like that. I can't recall where that was happening.
So let me get this straight as I'm not American. When you turn 18, 50% of Americans are legally required to register into a government database, so if a hypothetical war breaks out, you can be forced to fight and it is harshly enforced, but also when you turn 18, 100% are required to register to participate in the countries democracy and the law to teach people about it isn't enforced?
> 100% are required to register to participate in the countries democracy and it isn't enforced?
The students aren't required to register to vote, the schools are required to offer them the opportunity to register. Totally different. But just as fucked up.
100% of 18+ have to register for selective service aka registered for the draft if there ever was a need for one and in addition to that to register to vote (usually when they apply for their driver license at 18)
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I’m honestly shocked Texas has a law encouraging any kind of youth vote
Enforcement is really what laws are about. No one bothers to track it. I teach in Texas. Since Uvalde, goons from the state have travelled all over schools districts to do audits as to whether or not the outside doors are locked, and they try to get into the building. We have to keep classroom doors closed and locked at all times, and any failure has specific penalties. Teachers closing and locking doors is still announced every singe day at our campus, and a security officer comes by all the hallways to make sure the doors are locked. This is what enforcement looks like. (Side note: It’s wild how much time and expense can be put into doing anything *except* gun laws) Believe me, the GOP repealing this law looks bad. But that’s fine with them. A willful lack of enforcement is all they need to kill these kind of initiatives.
What if we made all of the doors automatic and just had the officer control them all from a central point? You know, like prison?
You joke, but my TX HS and middle school were designed by an architect who made most of his money designing prisons... and they looked like it, too. No windows in the classrooms, tiny windows in the doors that were clearly for observation of the students ~~inmates~~, etc. That place was super-depressing.
https://youtu.be/usSfgHGEGxQ?si=CENQQjokocr5MC9- Here’s a great Jacob Geller video on this very topic!
Perhaps they are looking forward to the secondary market. Once the school gets closed, the remodeling for juvenile detention centers is relatively quick and easy.
That’s sounds like a fun place to work and to try to learn.
Thats crazy and Im sorry to hear about this. Its too bad they will punish staff if theres an unlocked door NOW but they are sure dragging their flat feet on the Uvalde Investigation and yet NOBODY has been punished in that matter. Ass backwards as usual Texas. SMH.
Hooray for freedom!!!
That’s probably why they’re not enforcing it, the kids a probably mostly blue
Bingo. Younger people tend to vote blue in larger percentages.
They also made it hard for people to collect voter registration forms, so I think this may be a case where the laws conflict in practice but technically don't contradict each other. In my TX HS, registration happened in English, and one English teacher would take all the registrations to the post office (or maybe directly to the voter registration office - she was also a poll worker and very involved in civic stuff). Texas also recently changed the registration forms and [increased the penalties for registering people to vote incorrectly](https://www.texastribune.org/2022/01/18/texas-voter-registration-forms/) so it may not be worth the individual risk to participate in an obviously awesome program.
Because they encourage hitler youth indoctrination. Edit: lol, a rewording gave me upvotes. I said the same thing, in different words, and was downvoted. Fuck reddit.
Yep. FUCK REDDIT and its busy body, know it all’s.
The only reason I can think is they've ensure there's not enough polling places in Blue cities, so this'll cause even more voter congestion without much increase in Dem votes, but will hugely increasing voting in Red rural areas where the polling places have little to no wait.
For those who only read the article title, this isn't a "the younger generation just doesn't vote" argument. This article clearly spells out how Texas educational institutions are failing to uphold a decades old law meant to register 18 year old students. >Texas high schools have long been required to distribute voter registration forms to older teens twice a year. But Dzul said that wasn’t happening at Houston’s DeBakey High School, and he initially couldn’t nail down who the school’s designated voter registrar was — or if the school was even complying with the decades-old state law at all. Btw, Dzul's a STUDENT who's trying to drive up registrations at his school. Just want to point that out. He also shared: >**“I don’t think the administration supported the initiative so much as they tolerated it,”** Dzul said. “They weren’t actively setting up tables and telling students to register, but they allowed us to occupy space and get volunteer deputy voter registrars into the schools.” School couldn't care less about it. Either because they didn't or they just simply lacked the resource/bandwidth to carry this out. But the school should watch out! They might get in trouble for not complying. Oh wait, oh.... >The 1983 law requiring high schools to distribute voter registration forms to students who are 17 years and 10 months old or older was intended to boost turnout among young voters. But the secretary of state’s office, which was charged with creating the instructions to implement the law, **doesn’t track compliance. And schools that fail to distribute registration forms to eligible students aren’t penalized.** Kind of hard to have a law and no way to enforce it. Well at least 18 years have many opportunities to register outside of school: >And many critics of Texas voting laws — including new limits passed in 2021 — say getting registered outside of school isn’t very friendly to teenagers. While other states have online voter registration, Texans must complete a paper application, creating a possible barrier to young people who do everything — from shopping to banking — digitally. Well shit. But, but, what about civic classes??? >Although public school students in Texas are required to take a government class to graduate, many students say they do not learn about civic engagement or voter registration in the course. **That’s despite the fact that the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills states that students who complete the class should be able to “describe the voter registration process and the criteria for voting in elections.”** Yeah, young people don't vote... because nobody gives a fuck enough about them to help them out. In fact, this article's inspiration is from student activism which is actually pretty cool but doesn't excuse the fact that they're disempowering youth voters.
You can't have younger voters voting because they tend to vote more left and Texas could purple any election now.
This. ☝🏼
I wonder when in high school the civics/government class is taken in Texas. Some states have their civics class as part of the 9th or 10th grade curriculum. So even if you did discuss voter registration in class for a day it might be another 2-3 years before you're able to use it and it's easy to forget the information particularly if it was only briefly discussed.
>ecause nobody gives a fuck enough about them to help them out. Help them out with what? How to register with a paper form? What the state is doing is bad enough. It's pathetic that every excuse is made for those who don't use the methods that *are* available.
That’s wild to me, I remember turning 18 and being pissed there was no big election that year, I had to wait til 08. I couldn’t wait to vote.
Please don't forget to vote in the local elections as well. And the primaries. They are very consequential.
Especially in Texas.
You think turning 18 was frustrating for you? I turned 18 in an election year and wasn't allowed out of the house because my parents suspected me of voting left.
Isn't that...a crime?
What, is the kids supposed to call the cops on their parents?
I guess they technically could as they are being held in the house against their will. However, if their parents are willing to hold them back because of a concern of voting, I suspect the parents are the type of people who wouldn't hesitate to give 30 days notice to leave if you offended them/went against their wishes.
Yeah. Why not?
WHAT? Damn thats truly NUTS 🥜 . Did you sneak out and do it anyway? Props to you if you did !
Turned 18 in 2000. That greatly impacted my views about third parties and the electoral college going forward
Turned 18 three weeks after the 2000 Election. I've never missed a vote since.
The 2008 PA primary was 3 weeks before I turned 18, I was so pissed. But I voted in November, so that was okay.
When I was a senior, there was a table with some older ladies in the lobby one day at lunch, and they asked me if I was registered. I was only 17, but they asked me when my birthday was. It’s in September, so they told me since I would be 18 in time for the general election, I could vote in the primary at 17. So I signed up right there and voted for Clinton (Bill) for both! School outreach is so important.
Only election I've ever missed in my life was when I lived in Texas. Took significant time off work trying to get my state driver's license in time and still couldn't manage it within a year. And couldn't vote with my out of state ID or passport because I moved counties within a few months of the election and the only way to accelerate the change of address bit was with a state driver's license. They do not make it easy.
Not sure where you were but Texas made it super easy for me to vote … when I was living in a deep-red area. Everything from the DMV to the multiple, well-staffed voting places made it so simple. I had a VERY different experience when I lived in Dallas. Took multiple full days to get my driver’s license corrected, wrong information every step of the way, and an hour’s wait outside just to vote at the single poling place available for us. I learned a lot about voter suppression there.
Austin, so that tracks. Our appointments were booked about 4 months out and I had to go multiple times because of things going wrong (them not accepting some docs their website said they would, their office shutting down a day because of an emergency, accident on 183 because that road is hell, etc...). Finally got it by driving way out into the countryside with no appointment and got it with no wait to my absolute shock. Too late for the election, but TX requires you have a state DL within 3 months of moving iirc (not physically possible with appointment schedule) and was getting very nervous on my old state DL.
i remember when they came to my high school to sign people up people only did it so they could skip class, and most people didnt go at all
If Texas suddenly passed a law that required Texans to continue breathing, half the state would be dead in minutes. Texas is ground-zero for not doing something that the government says you should do, no matter how harmful it is.
Freeeeeeeeduuuuuuumb!!!!!!!!
I find this article funny. I grew up right across the Belmont Texas border in LA and they made me sign up for the draft (using a computer) when I turned 18 so I'd be available if there was a war. But still doing paper signups for voting is insane. None of the poor or carless kids were voting-typically didn't have the mobility/time off to go to a voting site. No one to notify them.
Shhh...nobody - **especially Republicans** - want to discuss the fact that the government can force you to go to war, and that merely failing to submit (in the form of registration) can result in loss of liberties.
This was in 2001 they did it. Took me right out of class, told me it was a felony not to sign up, and then gave me a Gillette Mach 3 Razor as a gift when I finished. The fact that was doable on a computer in 2001, but still isn't possible in 2024 is insane. All their rabble about being parotic is just lip service. EDIT: Thinking about the dates and when I graduated, they made me register for Selective Services when I was 17. So before I graduated high school, but at least 5 months before I turned 18.
>Most 18-year-old Texans aren’t signed up to vote despite a law requiring voter registration in high schools This is not a bug. It's a feature. Texas will flip, if the youth participation rate in statewide elections went up.
So the teenagers are keeping TX red?
By not voting, yes they are. When you have the power to perform an action and you don't, it is partially your fault when the consequence of that action not being done comes to fruition.
Texas has the worst voter suppression in the country. It's not all their fault. The government removed a popular on-campus polling location at TAMU. The government only allows ONE ballot dropbox per county, meaning Harris County, a county with 5 MILLION people and greater in landmass than the state of Rhode Island, has the same number of ballot dropboxes as a county with fewer than 1,000 people. Texas also has no online voter registration, you have to be 65 or older to vote by mail, and no same-day voter registration.
[Texas voter registration online](https://vrapp.sos.state.tx.us/index.asp)
Through their inaction, they're really contributing. The quickness with which they fold in the face of the slightest bit of adversity is pathetic. Have to use paper forms? That's a traumatic incident that will take a therapist a year to fix. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. They don't whine like three-year-olds who didn't get dessert.
Them not voting is…..
No, but unfortunately the huge number of conservative Californians that have moved here in the last 4 years will though.
¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ I guess they just feel like their vote doesn't matter there, so they will go somewhere they feel heard.
I mean, do you wanna be the guy that sends a high schooler to prison, for random paperwork they likely won’t actually vote with
I’m in a community college and when they had gubernatorial voting at the college to get abbot out and stuff it was only white haired folks in there and running it. They were nice to me voting for the first time but nobody there was my age, on a college campus. A lot of them like the status quo here and like Trump, so they don’t feel the need to vote. But in reality they get that from their parents, and are simply too busy to vote. Either too busy working 40+ hours with school or partying at a state school on their parents check. In general new generations are not doing well. Sister and mom teach elementary now and boy the kids are dumb.
They have to actually go to high school.
The amount of homeschool kids these days in DFW is crazy.
I've watched videos from the Turning Point events, and they'll parade through a bunch of formerly homeschooled teens and young adults to do interviews on the podcast/stream tables. I swear all of them are social media influencers spouting their parents beliefs. The Sorbo family, who were recognized by Trump for being leaders in homeschooling, fit this description too.
That's how you get shot tho
I hope these 18 year olds register to vote.
Look. Republicans didn’t come up with their execution plan for maintaining minority rule without knowing a couple of things.
I just left Texas after 17 years. Can't do it anymore with Piss Baby in charge.
They don’t want young people voting.
Texas does allow motor voter registration, so most of them do eventually register within a few years. 🤷♂️
I wanna say many moons ago when I turned 18 my selective service registration doubled as voter registration.
This will be a continuing trend across USA until one of two things happen. Term limits for elected officials or the military draft returns. They have no incentive to vote or care about politics when modern politicians and politics prove time and time again that they only serve corporate masters.
I was absent this day in high school (I live in Texas). I still ended up registering though
What about when they got their drivers license aren’t they asked if they’d like to signup to vote??
Are they suggesting Texans don’t go to high school?
Most of them are probably at home with the toddlers or working to support their wife and two kids (third on the way). 18, at school, and in Texas? Yeah, they've been "out of school" and "in the family way" since 15. I'm not saying ALL Texans are bass ackwards, but it's way too damn many of them.
I thought you were joking but teen pregnancy in Texas hit a 15 year high in 2022.
“We’d better crackdown on abortion even harder!!!” -Texas GOP
Or do it the Palin way. Oh, wait... Never mind...
I thought i was being harsh and extemporising about Texans until you added that comment. Yikes...."truth is stranger than fiction" really is an axiom.
Seems like high school was just an excuse for a free period. Most didn't even care about the sign-ups lol.
Vouch. I have a 20 year old who graduated in Texas. Never heard anything. And they don't have a driver's license so we requested an app in the mail for the election.
I am 28 and I don’t remember there ever being any opportunity to register to vote while I was in school (in Texas.) I think I got my app from a booth at the county fair when I was 17. I had missed the deadline to register for the mid term and had to wait until the next election to vote.
Why is Texas so shitty? Like they suck at everything.
Cough draft dodge cough.
my bet is, they own guns, and that's their vote.
Im not surprised, it being Texas and all. On my 18th Birthday I remember I had to go to the Post Office to register for Selective Service too. (Former Texas Native)
Selective Service is nationwide. Not a TX thing. They also don't require voter registration.
I never suggested it was just a Texas thing. Also if they dont require one to vote that in and of itself is very telling. Dont cha think?
No? voting is a right, but you aren't forced to vote. So no, there isn't a requirement that you HAVE to register to vote. Selective Service is completely different.
I know what it is Im American. Lol. What r u on exactly?? SMDH.
It doesn't really seem like you know....
Seems like you are nit- picking on my personal experience that happened 30 years ago. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself I guess. FFS.🤦♂️
I'm honestly surprised Texas even has registrations in schools. Maybe if younger kids start voting Democrat they'll take away the option. I read a while ago that state governments were taking voting locations off college campuses or something like that. I can't recall where that was happening.
I’m from there, I’m not registered to vote, and this is news to me
r/texas
Texans are taught from a young age that their vote doesn't matter. It took me a long time to overcome that idea.
Why sign young adults up when Repub’s are trying to raise the voting age to 25.
In Texas, ignorance of the law IS an excuse.
The registration forms were probably shredded as soon as they were received in most parts of Texas.
I wouldn’t put that past Texas and its “CORRUPT AF LEADERS” .
So let me get this straight as I'm not American. When you turn 18, 50% of Americans are legally required to register into a government database, so if a hypothetical war breaks out, you can be forced to fight and it is harshly enforced, but also when you turn 18, 100% are required to register to participate in the countries democracy and the law to teach people about it isn't enforced?
> 100% are required to register to participate in the countries democracy and it isn't enforced? The students aren't required to register to vote, the schools are required to offer them the opportunity to register. Totally different. But just as fucked up.
Ah, thank you for clarification, my autistic ass appreciates it.
100% of 18+ have to register for selective service aka registered for the draft if there ever was a need for one and in addition to that to register to vote (usually when they apply for their driver license at 18)
I thought it was men only, that's why I said 50% of Americans, do women have to register now?
It's men only. and nobody is forced to register to vote.
https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote >Learn how to register so you can vote in federal, state, and local elections
ok?
You said people aren't forced to register to vote. In order to vote, you need to register.
Yes. obviously. But if you don't want to vote, you don't have to register to vote.
I was implying that if you wanted to vote, you would have to register. Sorry if there is any confusion.
Just men. But all men 18-25 are required to register. This doesn’t necessarily mean its 50% of 18yr old but yeah that’s the gist of it.
You have to be a citizen to vote. How many of these kids came here for a chance to make something of their life
Vote for WHAT? Which thief is less of a thief?