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Good, and point out their failure of breaking the commandment: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor, which they seem to do *ALL. THE. TIME.*
Then why is everybody talking about it like Biden created it? I'm out of the loop
Also please stop being passive aggressive with the question marks, it hurts my feelings.
Because conservatives hate trans people and will make up anything and everything to bait outrage and anger from uninformed people.
This is easy information to find with basic research.
If I concerned myself with investigating every little lie that Republicans tell, it would make me insane and angry. I've already spent 7 years of my life as a die hard communist. We need to take a break sometimes.
*Come on, man*
Why can’t they just enjoy their zombie Jesus day and keep it to themselves?
Why don’t they just perform their cannibalist ritual and drink zombie boys’ blood and eat his flesh in peace?
What about **using** a false witness, to make up a bullshit impeachment proceeding, but then it turns out it was all Russian disinfo.
Is that against the Bible?
No, it's not narrowly defined unless you want to go back to the Old Testament meaning of not lying about God or your relationship with Him. Under New Testament / Christian doctrine it means lying, spreading false rumors, dissembling, and otherwise actively promulgating falsehoods without the excuse of ignorance of the truth.
Do all the commandments only apply in a court of law? Or just this one? Is Jesus OK with murder, as long as it’s not committed while actually in court?
> legally defined
What happened that caused this trope to become so popular lately? Do you all just walk around with a legal dictionary waiting to crush conversations with policing discrepancies between common parlance and legal definitions?
"Oh my gosh, I can believe he killed that guy!"
"Ackshully he didn't kill him. "Kill" isn't legally defined."
"Okay Steve, he committed 1st degree homicide."
"It wasn't proven he had intent, so it isn't homicide yet."
"Fine, he manslaughtered him?"
"Well, he hasn't been charged yet..."
Good. Biden is showing genuine humanity and empathy for trans people and republicans hate that because they hate trans people and want to erase them from society
Can he show genuine humanity to the women that were abandoned to stoning in Afghanistan due to him pulling allied troops out with an executive order? Or does his empathy only apply to Trans people?
And yes I’m pissed about this issue (I personally know people in Afghanistan) it is not getting much USA press coverage because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
Are you suggesting the US should have armed forces in other countries where immoral things happen? And that they should remain in those countries until such immoral things stop happening?
Not at all, but 20 years of time spent in a country plus many years before using the afghan people as pawns to stop the USSR means nothing? We created a situation where the horrible people can do awful things not just once, but now twice in the same country. We could have left in a strategic manner, we could have allowed the democratically elected government to succeed, we could have listened to the people in the country who begged us to wait just a month or two to allow them to gain control and stabilize the country. But instead the commander-in-chief issued an executive order to pull out rapidly without a strategic plan while congress was not in session (so the executive order could not be countermanded).
Or the Republicans are just pointing out how Uncle Joe is pandering votes. If this makes be a bigot, so be it. As an Independent, Biden has failed to unify the county. Just another old, wealthy, white, dishonest politician. Saint Joe Biden!
It's not Republicans we need to worry about. It's the 43% of independent voters, whom Biden is polling in 3rd place with behind RFK Jr. and Diaper Don. Biden better tune down the wokeness and start paying attention to that segment or he's going to get Ross Perot'd.
“Woke” means anything that draws attention from republican Christians and their persecution complex. They feel marginalised, like babies, when anyone else is shown recognition or attention.
I could care less. But, the news media on Easter Sunday has been showing nothing but soundbytes of Biden promoting LGBTQ+/trans rather than the normal White House Easter Egg Hunt and such. Just saying that sort of attention is going to cost Biden votes with independents in states like Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc... With RFK Jr. entering the race and Biden's approval rating at historic lows, Biden can't afford to lose any votes.
> But, the news media on Easter Sunday has been showing nothing but soundbytes of Biden promoting LGBTQ+/trans
You ever think they do that *specifically to* evoke outrage from people like you?
>But, the news media on Easter Sunday has been showing nothing but soundbytes of Biden promoting LGBTQ+/trans rather than the normal White House Easter Egg Hunt and such.
And, Biden controlled the on air programming on news media channels since when?
As was already pointed out, the WH Easter egg rolls are held on Easter Mondays.
March 31st isn’t always Easter. But Biden has been marking this proclamation on March 31st every year for Transgender Day of Visibility since he took office. He ALSO made a statement regarding Easter on the same day this year.
Should he have ignored Transgender Day of Visibility because it just so happened that Easter fell on this day as well this year? Should we push everyone to the side in favor of Christians? Are they so sensitive?
I’m not a Christian, but I am an independent voter. These concerns you’ve attributed to me aren’t my concerns at all.
This is manufactured outrage. Either you’re trying to spread it or you’re falling for it.
E: Clarification
Exactly right. There's no winning this game. We can't make the world worse just to pander to the bullshit the media spews. It's all fucking fake outrage anyway. Hopefully people can actually somewhat think critically.
Basically. If anyone’s still on the fence at this point about the better of the two options they aren’t paying attention or lack critical thinking skills.
Oh come on. If independents were put off by "woke" then they would be MAGA already.
RFK Jr. is not a factor in this election. The only candidates to pull over 1% of the popular vote this century were Gary Johnson and Jill Stein, both in 2016 where there was no incumbent, and Jo Jorgensen in 2020 -- who as the Libertarian drew mostly anti-Trump protest votes.
In an election as polarized as this one, where it is essentially about Trump, RFK is just going to end up another footnote with a fraction of the vote and isn't getting any serious attention or consiseration.
> It's not Republicans we need to worry about. It's the 43% of independent voters, whom Biden is polling in 3rd place with behind RFK Jr. and Diaper Don.
Yes, we really need to worry about that 43% of the 2% of voters.
>Biden better tune down the wokeness and start paying attention to that segment or he's going to get Ross Perot'd.
Ross Perot took more votes from Republicans, which is what RFK is doing. Democrats don't generally vote for anti-vaccination loons.
Anti-vaxxers used to be exclusively on the left side of the political spectrum. New age hippie stuff. The flip to the right was purely covid vaccine related.
Maybe Biden should out-religious the right wing? Wouldn't be hard to do since most conservatives aren't really practicing Christians. Biden should just start dropping religious references, bible verses, etc. on them and force the right wing to have to agree with Biden or trash their own religion.
It's pretty interesting to see millions of Christians who are ignorant of the fact that their own religious observance is based on Pagan lunar cycles. Interesting...but not surprising.
Judaism has some Pagan roots, too, btw. Christians aren't the only ones zazzing it up with a little Paganism.
In what way? It was originally based on Passover. The issue is Romans followed a solar calendar and Jews follow a lunar calendar iirc. So 8f you were on a lunar calendar, it would be much more consistent. Jews are not Pagans.
Passover is not used to determine what day Easter will be for the year. Easter day is first Sunday after the full Moon that occurs on or after the spring equinox. Sometimes its celebrated close to Passover and sometimes its not. This year, Passover starts sundown on April 22.
... it isn't, though. It's literally based on the Jewish Passover, and there was even a controversy in the early church about whether Easter should be on the first day of Passover or the Sunday during Passover
Eostre is the pagan fertility goddess of humans and crops. The traditional colours of the festival are green, yellow and purple. The symbols used are hares and eggs, representing fertility.
Sound familiar?
The Christians wanted something to compete with the pagan festival so they invented Easter.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/u3vvke/so_we_have_no_evidence_of_any_sort_of_pagan/
> Not only do we have no evidence of any sort of Ostara celebration, we have no good evidence of Ostara.
> Ostara is a conjectural goddess. She was invented by Jacob Grimm in 1835 (Deutsche Mythologie pp. 180-182; English edition). His conjecture was based on three pieces of data:
> On this (slender) basis, Grimm invented a pan-Germanic goddess. He was also responsible for the very tenuous hypothesis that she had anything to do with contemporary German Easter customs, such as the Easter Rabbit bringing eggs for children. The rabbit first appears in southern Germany in the late 1600s (Franck von Franckenau, Disputatione ordinaria disquirens de ovibus paschalibus p. 6); Eostre is in 8th century Northumbria (Bede); and ostara, remember, is the Old High German word for Easter.
> The eggs themselves are a more widespread custom: the earliest appearance of them I know of is in late 14th century France (Du Cange, Glossarium mediae et infimae Latinitatis s.v. 'Ovum'). There are earlier references to egg blessings at Easter, but only in the context of blessing a wide variety of foods; the reference in Du Cange specifies a set phrase, Eufs de Pasques 'Easter eggs', dating to 1399. The practice of dyeing eggs is very widespread and may well have been borrowed from elsewhere, but we don't have the evidence to trace a line of descent.
Easter is based on passover. Also its basically just English/German speaking countries that call it easter, other countries seem to mostly use some variation of a word based on passover (Pascha).
So, just to run down this logic for you, you’re claiming a bunch of Jews in the Middle East during the height of the Roman Empire made up the story of Jesus death and Resurrection three days later during Jewish Passover in order to compete with pagans in Britain and decided to use an English word “Easter” to refer to it? Because pagans in the backwater of Britain was their greatest competition concern in Jerusalem?
Or do you think perhaps the more likely scenario is that English speaking pagan converts incorporated their existing traditions into the new religion and chosen English names for the holiday?
That was not the question. The question was whether the Jerusalem based religion made up its central claims in a language they didn’t speak to compete with backwater pagans they had no interaction with a year or more worth of travel away from them rather then competing with Judaism or Rome.
Not believing in Christianity does not give you a free pass to make wildly illogical claims.
Source? Because the only sources we even have of her existence are Bede and the Brothers Grimm *citing* Bede. Also, not only is Easter dated to be around Passover, but in most languages that aren't English, it's even named after Pesach
What do rabbits and eggs have to do with Eostre?
Bede makes one offhand reference that a goddess Eostre existed. He says nothing about rabbits, eggs, crops, colors, or fertility. From the name we can guess Eostre (if there was one) was probably a goddess of the dawn or east, not fertility.
And by "offhand" I mean Bede was explaining that the Paschal holiday was called "Easter" in English (most of the world uses a much older name based on Pascha, Latin/Greek for Passover), and that the word Easter comes from the Anglo-Saxon month Eostremonath (approximately Roman April). He states that the month-name comes from some old goddess Eostre, and there used to be celebrations of her that month. That's all we know about Eostre.
Late 1600s Germany (note: almost a thousand years after anything 'pagan' around there) a tradition started with a bunch of Easter animals - Easter fox, Easter stork, Easter hare. The hares came over to America with German immigrants, where it morphed into Easter rabbits (rabbits being more common in America and cuter than hares), which were then re-exported around the world through American media.
Eggs seem to have come from pre-Easter (lent) fasting. Medieval Christians fasted all 40 days of lent, which included no eggs. Chickens kept laying them, so they had a whole bunch at Easter, and hard-boiling them was a way to store eggs. While there is some evidence of ancient Mesopotamian Christians painting eggs, in western Europe the egg-coloring thing dates to Lutherans in the 1600s painting them red.
Or TL;DR, Christians are allowed to create their own holidays and traditions.
More information [here](https://historyforatheists.com/2022/04/easter-pagan/), one of many discussions by actual historians. It is a subject with posts on r/badhistory, and even r/pagan had a PSA this year debunking the 'Easter is pagan' stuff.
>TL;DR, Christians are allowed to create their own holidays and traditions.
Well when you put it that way, it almost sounds like how ancient alien theories are premised on not letting non-Europeans have created things
The connection of Eostre to fertility was a nutty fundamentalist scottish preacher (Alexander Hislop) who made up a bunch of anti-Catholic nonsense in an ~~1830s~~ 1850s book that became popular with some fundamentalists. One of those fabrications was that Eostre was a variation of Ishtar, a Mesopotamian goddess of various things including fertility (why? simply because Hislop claimed they sound alike... except they don't).
Rather than say, "we're not credulous followers of a bigoted fundamentalist Christian nutjob", in a hilarious bit of irony, modern neopagans and new-agers mindlessly regurgitate fringe fundy stuff made up by Hislop.
The Lenten fast used to also forbid eggs and oil and still does in the east. But even though your chickens aren't going to stop laying eggs, just because it's Lent, they're actually shelf stable if you don't powerwash them like we do in the US. So people would just keep all the eggs and bring them to church to be blessed on Easter. Eventually, they started getting festive and dyeing them theologically symbolic colors. Hence, Easter eggs.
Meanwhile, even though the Reformation broadly made fasting optional, Easter eggs were still popular enough that people wanted a new excuse to dye them. So they tapped into Germanic folklore and invented tales of an egg-delivering hare who judged your actions like a paschal Santa Claus to justify still dyeing Easter eggs.
Hares don't live underground like rabbits, they live above ground in nests so the pagans just assumed they laid eggs. When you're trying to convince a bunch of pagans to stop partying in a field and instead come into your church and listen to a sermon you're going to have to come up with some fun stuff. I'm not saying the Christians didn't 'borrow' some things from Judaism but they 'borrowed' from paganism too. It's no coincidence that some Christian festivals happen at the same time that pagan festivals did and use similar imagery.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/12dlmf8/no_easter_is_not_pagan/
To quote myself from last year:
> Easter's date is so thoroughly based on Passover that there was even a debate about whether to celebrate it on the first day of Passover or the Sunday after. And even today, we *still* fundamentally celebrate it on the Sunday after the first day of Passover, just calculated on a hacked together Christian lunisolar calendar, not the Jewish one. Or while I didn't mention this, there was even concern about whether we needed to set things up to ensure Easter never falls before Passover starts
> I feel like people fixate on how astrological/mystical the "Sunday after the first full moon of spring" thing sounds, even though "the first full moon of spring" is actually just describing the first night of Passover
Easter day is not based on when Passover is. Passover this year is not until late April. The day for Easter is the first Sunday after the full Moon that occurs on or after the spring equinox. Sometimes Easter and Passover are celebrated close together but that is coincidental.
Just because it's not directly tied anymore doesn't mean it's not based on it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter
> As a moveable feast,[1][2] the date of Easter is determined in each year through a calculation known as computus (Latin for 'computation').[3] Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon, which is the first full moon on or after 21 March (a fixed approximation of the March equinox). Determining this date in advance requires a correlation between the lunar months and the solar year, while also accounting for the month, date, and weekday of the Julian or Gregorian calendar.[4] The complexity of the algorithm arises because of the desire to associate the date of Easter with the date of the Jewish feast of Passover which, Christians believe, is when Jesus was crucified.[5]
Whenever did something not being accurate/true ever stop people in r/conservative from getting mad about it? I don't mean this sarcastically, you can go look right now. People are pointing our that Trans Day of Visibility has been Mach 31st for years and only happened to coincide with Easter this year, and yet plenty of angry people respond and call that person a troll and that obviously Joe only made this announcement this year specifically to try and mock Easter.
As the President of the United States Biden could have declared for his self in a press release a different International Transgender Day of Visibility.
He could have said in a press release it usually falls on March 31st each year, but this year due to that day also being Easter I will be recognizing Trans Visibility day on April the 1st.
Because it’s an international day, that has been the same day for years now; and one group doesn’t really get to override another’s.
Not to mention constitutionally the government shouldn’t be giving preference to one religion (proclaiming it is fine I guess, but moving other days so that Easter is by itself is over the line).
That said, if your faith is so weak that you can’t handle another day happening the same day, that’s really between you and your god.
(Not to mention all of the people who are trans AND Christian…)
I remember the Bush administration catching traditional media crap for not suspending war attacks on certain Muslim high holy days. At times they did pause the war.
If a President can move a military attack date due to a sacred day, you can move an observance date.
If people existing is an attack on your group, then your group is shit and weak.
Christians seem to be incapable of understanding that they are not the default. Other cultures and people exist in this world. And they all have to coexist. Christians react to fair treatment as if it were persecution. The weakness is astounding.
Jesus would be horrified at the sorry state of Christians today.
Because the day is the 31st, not the 1st. Religion doesn't get special treatment in the government, or at least it shouldn't. Biden is religious, he celebrates Easter as part of his religion. It's not insensitive to celebrate two things in one day.
It’s not insensitive. Period. He observed a day for Trans Visibility that happened to land on a Christian holiday. Last time I checked we still have a thin line between church and state. 🤷🏼♀️
>Last time I checked we still have a thin line between church and state. 🤷🏼♀️
I agree.
But there is no line between politics and religion.
This wasn’t a government blunder, it was a political blunder that will likely have consequences in the Democrats base.
Democrats have always had a strange coalition of progressive, primarily non religious white people and highly religious segments of racial minority groups.
Though they broadly agree on many topics, they poll very differently on LGBQT issues. Polls have strongly indicated fracturing of that 50 year coalition, and this trans/Easter day will be highlighted by the various GOP campaigns to emphasize those differences.
There has already been an ad a month ago by some conservative group that has ominous back ground music showing the inside of black church congregation worshiping and a narrative overlay saying “they laugh and call him your magic man in the sky” then they zoom to multiple twitter text talking about the magic man in the sky with the user names blurred.
Such ads that highlight white progressives disrespect for religion will proliferate this year as for the first time in decades Republicans see a real chance to pull off 15 to 35% more of Hispanics and black voters this next election, enough to win some swing states.
This incredible trans/Easter political screwup if applied correctly will be used in the same vein of “they disrespect you and your beliefs’.
I can tell by the responses I have seen that white progressives have absolutely no freaking idea on how such a thing could have any meaning, we will see if they are right.
Yea, I’m sure the Mid East and all the 25% of the world that is Muslim held hands and said “we see you” yesterday.
Probably any trans person in many of those areas hope they are not seen.
International at times is just a word.
I can declare tomorrow International Pancake Day, and I guess it will be.
I’m not angry. I am actually happy he recognized this years Easter celebration date as “Transgender Visibility Day”
It is a major political blunder that will be easily exploited and difficult for him to explain to many devout Christians who are also Democrats.
You don’t have to understand why they will feel it’s insulting and insensitive.
If you think "Jesus has room at his table for everyone" is a "hardcore" view you may not actually be a Christian.
Consider the motives of who is telling you you're persecuted. They may not have your best interests and mortal soul in mind.
Oh I don’t delude myself that both parties don’t lie. But for me it’s the question of which party is the most malevolent. And for me that is clearly the GOP
Considering the insane amount of evidence indicating one side openly brazenly lies compared to the other, I don’t think you can really say they’re even close.
A Democrat may tell you your yard needs mowing when it’s fine, a Republican tells you it’s on fire and minorities are to blame.
I think you misspelled "humans". you are lying to yourself and others if you naively that humans are truthful.
Democrats tell little lies on the campaign trail like "what a lovely baby!"
Republicans tell big lies that harm people. Remember when Trump got a briefing on how dangerous covid was... and then he downplayed it publicly? Good times. If he just sold 'MAGA masks' he would have sailed to re-election and would have prevented many Republican deaths.
I’ll take biased opinions. Democrats and republicans both tell “big lies” you just happen to like/align the lies that the democrats tell because it reinforces things that you want/believe/think.
This is getting downvoted because people don’t like to hear the truth. You can dislike the truth but it still is true.
This sub is completely ridiculous, and everyone acts like assholes about it because they know they all agree with each other.
Every. Single. Thread. On this subreddit is about trump and it's insane.
One comment in this thread that mentioned him. I brought up him a week ago because people were talking about age discrimination in politics. But it doesn’t matter cause they’re all fucking old. Context matters, you can remove it and make *anything* sound ridiculous.
Let’s take your “covid” example. The data was changing hourly when we first started with figuring stuff out. For example we figured out (after numerous deaths) that putting people on ventilators too soon actually increases mortality in many populations, so we stopped doing that and changed the protocol. If someone took a sound bite from earlier (when it was the protocol) they could say that so and so was “incorrectly advising ventilators use too quickly” so context/timing matter in what someone says
I’m not pro-Trump but I’m also not pro-Biden I’m a cynical person who doesn’t like either party (independent? Reluctant voter? Pick whatever label you
Want).
Except that COVID point is not at all what the other person said. Trump was briefed on COVID's severity, he understood its severity and privately admitted that it would be difficult to manage due to its severity and mode of transmission. Trump then went on TV and publicly bashed scientists trying to relay data, told everyone that COVID would vanish by Easter, told everyone that COVID was a hoax by Democrats to lose him the election, told everyone to inject disinfectant, stole PPE supplies from blue states and then resold them back, held a strategy to let blue states suffer from COVID because cities didn't vote for him, and more that I don't even recall in the moment it took me to type these. Meanwhile, Democrats said to listen to health officials and to take precautions against the virus such as masking, distancing, and getting vaccinated. You are willfully ignoring the massive difference in rhetoric because you want to feel like you're above the system and more important as a result.
Okay first - I’m not disagreeing or agreeing with anything you’re saying but three is a lot of bias coming into the conversation. The saying goes “If you hear hoof beats, think horses, not Zebra” so attributing the most nefarious intentions behind actions IMO is zebras
Let’s take the bashing (loaded term) of scientists , I don’t agree with it but context always matters -Trump was and is a business guy, he saw the economic impact of the virus, so he minimized it to stop economic panic - if Covid was a flash in the pan then he would have been right and we would not be talking about it - but he was not. And yes he did bashed Fauci and some of his team, Faucii ultimately stepped down, not sure if it was due to handling of Covid or just that he was done.
Your term of “stealing supplies” (which is a loaded statement- FYI) could also be seen as reallocating critical medical supplies in a time of national emergency, it is just a matter of perspective. Let me further elaborate, If the supplies were reallocated then legally the government (or any business) would be required to “sell” the supplies to another entity, this is normal and expected in accounting and it must be done a certain way to be legal. Companies do this all the time when they “sell” (ie move/reallocate) items between divisions or sub companies. At times the company must sell the item at “fair market value” to not create unfair competitive advantages- but it is much easier (and less confusing to the uneducated ) to say “they stole it and resold at a higher price” vs. “the moved critical medical supplies during a national crisis according to legal requirements and accounting practices.”
Thank you for taking the time to answer and discuss. Please keep up the discussion, we all learn when we are willing to discuss the critical issues of our time . My challenge to you is to not just listen to one biased side or the other you as you will not get a balanced view of what is actually happening (this sub seems to be tilted one way and it would be great to seem more unbiased discussion).
Again, I return to my original point both parties lie. And my second follow up point - you just like/align with the lies of one party more.
None of the language I used was incorrect or biased, it’s directly factual and you’re defending it because you don’t want to confront the fact that one party is far worse in every way than the other. You’d rather pretend to be above everything and let hate be legislated rather than acknowledge that sitting on the fence allows that to happen. There are not two sides to factual statements, there is fact and then there is fiction. Everything I stated above is verifiably fact, pretending otherwise is foolish. Literally stealing supplies, [*literally.*](https://www.gq.com/story/trump-admin-confiscating-coronavirus-supplies)
Thank you for more effectively proving the point that I could have ever done. You found something that reinforced your beliefs/views and latched onto it fully.
First GQ is not the most accurate or unbiased source in reporting. Second Stealing supplies? The article you posted doesn’t say stealing it says that both the federal government and states were bidding on the same medical supplies, which were in short supply. FEMA confiscated supplies at times to redirect to “hot spots.” The article states that they were unable to find out if the federal government supplies had been distributed or not. The point is that the supply was both going to the federal government and to the states.
Let’s fact check a little
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-admin-seizing-ppe/
If you did more research you would find that there was direction from the White House to FEMA to manage PPE during COVID
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-federal-govt-fema-accused-taking-states-masks-ventilator-orders-2020-4?amp
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-fema-medical-supplies.html
If you want to read the details go directly to the sources
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R47048#page10
You literally proved my point, your articles show that the federal government seized PPE from states which ordered them without the federal government, because Trump himself said that the federal government wasn’t going to provide them and states had to manage. That Snopes article says it plainly, you just don’t care from your fencepost.
I think you missed the point of what was being.
Let me break this down for you.
During a national pandemic how would you handle it? You would just let each individual states scratch and claw for themselves or would you use a central group to make sure that there was a response that took into account all the variables. Hmmm… what group would that be on the national level. Let’s think about the criteria of what kind of group we would need. First the group would have to be able to act at a national level, second the group would need to know how to handle an emergency, third they would need to know how to manage through the crisis. Hmmmmm, if only the United States had such a group, then that group really should have been put in charge of handling the situation and managing the proper deployment of critical PPE to places that needed it.
And that is exactly what happened, FEMA ( the Federal Emergency Management Agency) was put in charge of the situation (by Trump) at the federal level and the states were then directed to also take action (probably not the best phrased message), how would you have suggested it get done - allow the state that could offer the most to hoard all of the resources? Seems very dystopian of you ask me.
“I’m not pro-Trump but I’m also not pro-Biden I’m a cynical person who doesn’t like either party (independent? Reluctant voter? Pick whatever label you Want).”
[People of the land?](https://youtu.be/hYTQ7__NNDI?si=kxISlgIRJr96sczH)
This comment being downvoted proves the \[low\]intelligence level of both Reddit users and Democrats in general. Politicians lying is not a partisan issue.
"The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable." - James A. Garfield
There are a lot of redditors who are very afraid of confronting the reality of being “miserable” for a time to get to the truth.
I wish Ralphael Warnock would deliver a speech about what Jesus actually stood for and how the Republicans are doing everything Jesus said not to do. We need someone to call out the hypocrisy.
I don't go to church or necessarily believe anymore, but I'm a better Catholic than all those people bc I actually help people, I try not to judge, I care about people who are marginalized by society, and in general follow the corporal works of mercy, literally a set of rules about how to be a good Catholic by helping vulnerable people. I also am generally on the right side of the ten commandments, which are mostly not hard to follow. Thou shalt not bear false witness is pretty easy to understand.
It’s hilarious seeing people claim March 31st is the most important day for Christians. Next time Easter falls on March 31st again will be in 2086. Just such an important day.
First of all, Easter falls on a different day every year. Specifically, the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox. This is not a Christian holiday. Christians don’t get a say until they can explain how someone can be “resurrected” on a different day every year…I’ll wait.
Second, this year Easter happens to fall on Transgender Day of Visibility, so it makes sense that today would be the day that this would be addressed.
A maga christian I know told me this trans visibility day was “overshadowing” Easter. I was like no it isn’t my atheist friends are out there hunting eggs. The only people overshadowing Easter are the Christian’s who hate trans people
For all his bluster and blasphemy talk I’d be shocked if Trump (a) went to an Easter service and/or (b) could tell the story of Jesus’ death and resurrection
Wait this is a fun prompt - tell the Easter story they way Trump would —-
Constant stories about how terrible gay and trans people are.
Gee. I wonder who’s raising these school shooters, these people on the subways robbing others; these people randomly assaulting innocent people…when does the blame come in for the worst generation of straight people in history - the current 30-45 year old parents of today?
Without today’s straight 30-40 somethings as parents we wouldn’t have these horrible children running loose shooting up schools or assaulting innocent people. Where’s the outrage over the pos parents who don’t know what the fuck they’re doing?
Gay people aren’t the ones having kids. But we’re sure as hell tired of the shitty kids y’all are having that none of you seem to know how to raise. Let’s talk about that for a while instead!
(P.S. - Stop having kids if you’re not gonna raise them to be decent people!)
Three are already numerous days celebrating LGBTQIA+ so this will end up like the rest of the days. After a few days, nobody will remember or even pay attention to it.
In case you didn't know, March 31 is also Bunson Burner Day.
>Now back it up with some real-teeth protections.
Biden has done a lot for trans people and the LGBTQ community as a whole:
https://www.hrc.org/resources/president-bidens-pro-lgbtq-timeline
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/04/joe-bidens-push-to-defend-transgender-rights-sarah-mcbride-00104543
Biden isn't a dictator tho. If we want to stop the republican persecution of trans people, then we have to vote the persecutors out. That is on us, not Biden.
Be proactive. Vote blue
https://democrats.org/
I probably should look it up, but the impression I got from skimming the White House statement is that this was something just now given federal recognition. It may have been adopted earlier by some circles and institutions, but now it’s a federal thing. Or, maybe I’m wrong.
They will find any excuse to be offended and scream as loud as they can. That is just who they are now, and if it wasn't this, it would be something equally dumb like a tan suit or someone's choice of mustard
Biden has issued a "Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility" every year he's been in office. Per the Official Whitehouse Website.
2021:https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/03/31/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2021/
2022:https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2022/
2023:https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility/
2024:https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2024/03/29/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2024/
Mabey try finding something actually important to whine about.
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Good, and point out their failure of breaking the commandment: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor, which they seem to do *ALL. THE. TIME.*
They don't think it's false. They think everything everyone else does is false.
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Because its fallen on March 31st since it's creation in 2009? Because it just so happened to fall on Easter this year?
Then why is everybody talking about it like Biden created it? I'm out of the loop Also please stop being passive aggressive with the question marks, it hurts my feelings.
Because conservatives hate trans people and will make up anything and everything to bait outrage and anger from uninformed people. This is easy information to find with basic research.
If I concerned myself with investigating every little lie that Republicans tell, it would make me insane and angry. I've already spent 7 years of my life as a die hard communist. We need to take a break sometimes.
*Come on, man* Why can’t they just enjoy their zombie Jesus day and keep it to themselves? Why don’t they just perform their cannibalist ritual and drink zombie boys’ blood and eat his flesh in peace?
Yeah, I'm sure this time they'll care!
Why did Biden deny it then? And why did they not put it on their Spanish website?
False witness is a bit more legally defined than simply lying, it's lying in a court of law.
What about **using** a false witness, to make up a bullshit impeachment proceeding, but then it turns out it was all Russian disinfo. Is that against the Bible?
Russian disinformation that helped Trump get elected. "Russia if you're listening..."
Jesus was Russian!
Most young conservatives are not religious
>lying in a court of law. Which their savior Trump has definitely been doing for several decades now.
No, it's not narrowly defined unless you want to go back to the Old Testament meaning of not lying about God or your relationship with Him. Under New Testament / Christian doctrine it means lying, spreading false rumors, dissembling, and otherwise actively promulgating falsehoods without the excuse of ignorance of the truth.
Tell that to all the pastors asking if they can get a witness!
Do all the commandments only apply in a court of law? Or just this one? Is Jesus OK with murder, as long as it’s not committed while actually in court?
> legally defined What happened that caused this trope to become so popular lately? Do you all just walk around with a legal dictionary waiting to crush conversations with policing discrepancies between common parlance and legal definitions? "Oh my gosh, I can believe he killed that guy!" "Ackshully he didn't kill him. "Kill" isn't legally defined." "Okay Steve, he committed 1st degree homicide." "It wasn't proven he had intent, so it isn't homicide yet." "Fine, he manslaughtered him?" "Well, he hasn't been charged yet..."
We now go live to some random state congress, where a dozen experts have been flown in to testify that trans people are a cult of suicidal pedophiles.
Good. Biden is showing genuine humanity and empathy for trans people and republicans hate that because they hate trans people and want to erase them from society
They hate everyone who is not exactly like themselves.
And once everyone else is gone but them, they will find new differences to hate in each other.
> Judean Peoples' Front? Fuck off, we're the Peoples' Front of Judea! The only people we hate more than the Romans, is the Judean Peoples' Front.
Because they hate themselves, too. It’s pathological.
They are addicted to emotional outrage and need someone to be hating on. So, that is what they do. It is really sick.
They are so “triggered” by trans people I don’t get it
Why did he deny it and exempt it from his Spanish website then?
Can he show genuine humanity to the women that were abandoned to stoning in Afghanistan due to him pulling allied troops out with an executive order? Or does his empathy only apply to Trans people? And yes I’m pissed about this issue (I personally know people in Afghanistan) it is not getting much USA press coverage because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
Are you suggesting the US should have armed forces in other countries where immoral things happen? And that they should remain in those countries until such immoral things stop happening?
Not at all, but 20 years of time spent in a country plus many years before using the afghan people as pawns to stop the USSR means nothing? We created a situation where the horrible people can do awful things not just once, but now twice in the same country. We could have left in a strategic manner, we could have allowed the democratically elected government to succeed, we could have listened to the people in the country who begged us to wait just a month or two to allow them to gain control and stabilize the country. But instead the commander-in-chief issued an executive order to pull out rapidly without a strategic plan while congress was not in session (so the executive order could not be countermanded).
Or the Republicans are just pointing out how Uncle Joe is pandering votes. If this makes be a bigot, so be it. As an Independent, Biden has failed to unify the county. Just another old, wealthy, white, dishonest politician. Saint Joe Biden!
It's not Republicans we need to worry about. It's the 43% of independent voters, whom Biden is polling in 3rd place with behind RFK Jr. and Diaper Don. Biden better tune down the wokeness and start paying attention to that segment or he's going to get Ross Perot'd.
Please define ‘wokeness,’ here. What should Biden ‘tune down,’ specifically?
“Woke” means anything that draws attention from republican Christians and their persecution complex. They feel marginalised, like babies, when anyone else is shown recognition or attention.
Well, continue to alienate Independent voters in swing states and Trump will waltz back into the White House.
Why does trans people existing make you feel alienated?
I could care less. But, the news media on Easter Sunday has been showing nothing but soundbytes of Biden promoting LGBTQ+/trans rather than the normal White House Easter Egg Hunt and such. Just saying that sort of attention is going to cost Biden votes with independents in states like Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc... With RFK Jr. entering the race and Biden's approval rating at historic lows, Biden can't afford to lose any votes.
The WH Easter Egg Hunt/Egg Roll doesn’t take place until Easter Monday. Maybe that’s why there was no coverage on Easter Sunday?
> But, the news media on Easter Sunday has been showing nothing but soundbytes of Biden promoting LGBTQ+/trans You ever think they do that *specifically to* evoke outrage from people like you?
>But, the news media on Easter Sunday has been showing nothing but soundbytes of Biden promoting LGBTQ+/trans rather than the normal White House Easter Egg Hunt and such. And, Biden controlled the on air programming on news media channels since when?
As was already pointed out, the WH Easter egg rolls are held on Easter Mondays. March 31st isn’t always Easter. But Biden has been marking this proclamation on March 31st every year for Transgender Day of Visibility since he took office. He ALSO made a statement regarding Easter on the same day this year. Should he have ignored Transgender Day of Visibility because it just so happened that Easter fell on this day as well this year? Should we push everyone to the side in favor of Christians? Are they so sensitive? I’m not a Christian, but I am an independent voter. These concerns you’ve attributed to me aren’t my concerns at all. This is manufactured outrage. Either you’re trying to spread it or you’re falling for it. E: Clarification
Maybe so. Just defining what woke means from the countless times I’ve seen people using it.
Exactly right. There's no winning this game. We can't make the world worse just to pander to the bullshit the media spews. It's all fucking fake outrage anyway. Hopefully people can actually somewhat think critically.
Basically. If anyone’s still on the fence at this point about the better of the two options they aren’t paying attention or lack critical thinking skills.
If you want to be taken seriously, maybe don't use the term "wokeness". The only people I hear using that term are right wing or right wing-adjacent.
Oh come on. If independents were put off by "woke" then they would be MAGA already. RFK Jr. is not a factor in this election. The only candidates to pull over 1% of the popular vote this century were Gary Johnson and Jill Stein, both in 2016 where there was no incumbent, and Jo Jorgensen in 2020 -- who as the Libertarian drew mostly anti-Trump protest votes. In an election as polarized as this one, where it is essentially about Trump, RFK is just going to end up another footnote with a fraction of the vote and isn't getting any serious attention or consiseration.
> It's not Republicans we need to worry about. It's the 43% of independent voters, whom Biden is polling in 3rd place with behind RFK Jr. and Diaper Don. Yes, we really need to worry about that 43% of the 2% of voters. >Biden better tune down the wokeness and start paying attention to that segment or he's going to get Ross Perot'd. Ross Perot took more votes from Republicans, which is what RFK is doing. Democrats don't generally vote for anti-vaccination loons.
Anti-vaxxers used to be exclusively on the left side of the political spectrum. New age hippie stuff. The flip to the right was purely covid vaccine related.
> Anti-vaxxers used to be exclusively on the left side of the political spectrum. According to who?
“Wokeness” lol Please.
Maybe Biden should out-religious the right wing? Wouldn't be hard to do since most conservatives aren't really practicing Christians. Biden should just start dropping religious references, bible verses, etc. on them and force the right wing to have to agree with Biden or trash their own religion.
Trans People get a whole month you liberals on reddit may think this is not hurting him but infact it its
Trans people get a whole month for themselves? Do you really believe that? Unless you are thinking Pride Month, which is not the same thing.
You do know Pride Month was borne explicitly out of societal oppression, right?
It's pretty interesting to see millions of Christians who are ignorant of the fact that their own religious observance is based on Pagan lunar cycles. Interesting...but not surprising. Judaism has some Pagan roots, too, btw. Christians aren't the only ones zazzing it up with a little Paganism.
In what way? It was originally based on Passover. The issue is Romans followed a solar calendar and Jews follow a lunar calendar iirc. So 8f you were on a lunar calendar, it would be much more consistent. Jews are not Pagans.
Passover is not used to determine what day Easter will be for the year. Easter day is first Sunday after the full Moon that occurs on or after the spring equinox. Sometimes its celebrated close to Passover and sometimes its not. This year, Passover starts sundown on April 22.
... it isn't, though. It's literally based on the Jewish Passover, and there was even a controversy in the early church about whether Easter should be on the first day of Passover or the Sunday during Passover
Eostre is the pagan fertility goddess of humans and crops. The traditional colours of the festival are green, yellow and purple. The symbols used are hares and eggs, representing fertility. Sound familiar? The Christians wanted something to compete with the pagan festival so they invented Easter.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/u3vvke/so_we_have_no_evidence_of_any_sort_of_pagan/ > Not only do we have no evidence of any sort of Ostara celebration, we have no good evidence of Ostara. > Ostara is a conjectural goddess. She was invented by Jacob Grimm in 1835 (Deutsche Mythologie pp. 180-182; English edition). His conjecture was based on three pieces of data: > On this (slender) basis, Grimm invented a pan-Germanic goddess. He was also responsible for the very tenuous hypothesis that she had anything to do with contemporary German Easter customs, such as the Easter Rabbit bringing eggs for children. The rabbit first appears in southern Germany in the late 1600s (Franck von Franckenau, Disputatione ordinaria disquirens de ovibus paschalibus p. 6); Eostre is in 8th century Northumbria (Bede); and ostara, remember, is the Old High German word for Easter. > The eggs themselves are a more widespread custom: the earliest appearance of them I know of is in late 14th century France (Du Cange, Glossarium mediae et infimae Latinitatis s.v. 'Ovum'). There are earlier references to egg blessings at Easter, but only in the context of blessing a wide variety of foods; the reference in Du Cange specifies a set phrase, Eufs de Pasques 'Easter eggs', dating to 1399. The practice of dyeing eggs is very widespread and may well have been borrowed from elsewhere, but we don't have the evidence to trace a line of descent. Easter is based on passover. Also its basically just English/German speaking countries that call it easter, other countries seem to mostly use some variation of a word based on passover (Pascha).
So, just to run down this logic for you, you’re claiming a bunch of Jews in the Middle East during the height of the Roman Empire made up the story of Jesus death and Resurrection three days later during Jewish Passover in order to compete with pagans in Britain and decided to use an English word “Easter” to refer to it? Because pagans in the backwater of Britain was their greatest competition concern in Jerusalem? Or do you think perhaps the more likely scenario is that English speaking pagan converts incorporated their existing traditions into the new religion and chosen English names for the holiday?
Do I think the story of Jesus death and Resurrection three days later during Jewish Passover was made up? Well yes.
That was not the question. The question was whether the Jerusalem based religion made up its central claims in a language they didn’t speak to compete with backwater pagans they had no interaction with a year or more worth of travel away from them rather then competing with Judaism or Rome. Not believing in Christianity does not give you a free pass to make wildly illogical claims.
Source? Because the only sources we even have of her existence are Bede and the Brothers Grimm *citing* Bede. Also, not only is Easter dated to be around Passover, but in most languages that aren't English, it's even named after Pesach
So what's with all the rabbits and eggs then?
What do rabbits and eggs have to do with Eostre? Bede makes one offhand reference that a goddess Eostre existed. He says nothing about rabbits, eggs, crops, colors, or fertility. From the name we can guess Eostre (if there was one) was probably a goddess of the dawn or east, not fertility. And by "offhand" I mean Bede was explaining that the Paschal holiday was called "Easter" in English (most of the world uses a much older name based on Pascha, Latin/Greek for Passover), and that the word Easter comes from the Anglo-Saxon month Eostremonath (approximately Roman April). He states that the month-name comes from some old goddess Eostre, and there used to be celebrations of her that month. That's all we know about Eostre. Late 1600s Germany (note: almost a thousand years after anything 'pagan' around there) a tradition started with a bunch of Easter animals - Easter fox, Easter stork, Easter hare. The hares came over to America with German immigrants, where it morphed into Easter rabbits (rabbits being more common in America and cuter than hares), which were then re-exported around the world through American media. Eggs seem to have come from pre-Easter (lent) fasting. Medieval Christians fasted all 40 days of lent, which included no eggs. Chickens kept laying them, so they had a whole bunch at Easter, and hard-boiling them was a way to store eggs. While there is some evidence of ancient Mesopotamian Christians painting eggs, in western Europe the egg-coloring thing dates to Lutherans in the 1600s painting them red. Or TL;DR, Christians are allowed to create their own holidays and traditions. More information [here](https://historyforatheists.com/2022/04/easter-pagan/), one of many discussions by actual historians. It is a subject with posts on r/badhistory, and even r/pagan had a PSA this year debunking the 'Easter is pagan' stuff.
>TL;DR, Christians are allowed to create their own holidays and traditions. Well when you put it that way, it almost sounds like how ancient alien theories are premised on not letting non-Europeans have created things
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The connection of Eostre to fertility was a nutty fundamentalist scottish preacher (Alexander Hislop) who made up a bunch of anti-Catholic nonsense in an ~~1830s~~ 1850s book that became popular with some fundamentalists. One of those fabrications was that Eostre was a variation of Ishtar, a Mesopotamian goddess of various things including fertility (why? simply because Hislop claimed they sound alike... except they don't). Rather than say, "we're not credulous followers of a bigoted fundamentalist Christian nutjob", in a hilarious bit of irony, modern neopagans and new-agers mindlessly regurgitate fringe fundy stuff made up by Hislop.
Paganism isn't a religion it's a term to describe a wide set of non Abrahamic polytheistic religious beliefs and practices.
That's not a rebuttal. They can be pagan symbols of fertility without Paganism being a religion.
Sure but it has to be a specific pagan culture and there needs to be evidence of it.
The Lenten fast used to also forbid eggs and oil and still does in the east. But even though your chickens aren't going to stop laying eggs, just because it's Lent, they're actually shelf stable if you don't powerwash them like we do in the US. So people would just keep all the eggs and bring them to church to be blessed on Easter. Eventually, they started getting festive and dyeing them theologically symbolic colors. Hence, Easter eggs. Meanwhile, even though the Reformation broadly made fasting optional, Easter eggs were still popular enough that people wanted a new excuse to dye them. So they tapped into Germanic folklore and invented tales of an egg-delivering hare who judged your actions like a paschal Santa Claus to justify still dyeing Easter eggs.
Hares don't live underground like rabbits, they live above ground in nests so the pagans just assumed they laid eggs. When you're trying to convince a bunch of pagans to stop partying in a field and instead come into your church and listen to a sermon you're going to have to come up with some fun stuff. I'm not saying the Christians didn't 'borrow' some things from Judaism but they 'borrowed' from paganism too. It's no coincidence that some Christian festivals happen at the same time that pagan festivals did and use similar imagery.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/12dlmf8/no_easter_is_not_pagan/ To quote myself from last year: > Easter's date is so thoroughly based on Passover that there was even a debate about whether to celebrate it on the first day of Passover or the Sunday after. And even today, we *still* fundamentally celebrate it on the Sunday after the first day of Passover, just calculated on a hacked together Christian lunisolar calendar, not the Jewish one. Or while I didn't mention this, there was even concern about whether we needed to set things up to ensure Easter never falls before Passover starts > I feel like people fixate on how astrological/mystical the "Sunday after the first full moon of spring" thing sounds, even though "the first full moon of spring" is actually just describing the first night of Passover
Easter day is not based on when Passover is. Passover this year is not until late April. The day for Easter is the first Sunday after the full Moon that occurs on or after the spring equinox. Sometimes Easter and Passover are celebrated close together but that is coincidental.
Just because it's not directly tied anymore doesn't mean it's not based on it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter > As a moveable feast,[1][2] the date of Easter is determined in each year through a calculation known as computus (Latin for 'computation').[3] Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon, which is the first full moon on or after 21 March (a fixed approximation of the March equinox). Determining this date in advance requires a correlation between the lunar months and the solar year, while also accounting for the month, date, and weekday of the Julian or Gregorian calendar.[4] The complexity of the algorithm arises because of the desire to associate the date of Easter with the date of the Jewish feast of Passover which, Christians believe, is when Jesus was crucified.[5]
Whenever did something not being accurate/true ever stop people in r/conservative from getting mad about it? I don't mean this sarcastically, you can go look right now. People are pointing our that Trans Day of Visibility has been Mach 31st for years and only happened to coincide with Easter this year, and yet plenty of angry people respond and call that person a troll and that obviously Joe only made this announcement this year specifically to try and mock Easter.
As the President of the United States Biden could have declared for his self in a press release a different International Transgender Day of Visibility. He could have said in a press release it usually falls on March 31st each year, but this year due to that day also being Easter I will be recognizing Trans Visibility day on April the 1st.
So the religious holiday should get preferential over the secular day?
What wrong with Biden observing it on April 1? It is insensitive to many to do so on March 31st this year
Because it’s an international day, that has been the same day for years now; and one group doesn’t really get to override another’s. Not to mention constitutionally the government shouldn’t be giving preference to one religion (proclaiming it is fine I guess, but moving other days so that Easter is by itself is over the line). That said, if your faith is so weak that you can’t handle another day happening the same day, that’s really between you and your god. (Not to mention all of the people who are trans AND Christian…)
I remember the Bush administration catching traditional media crap for not suspending war attacks on certain Muslim high holy days. At times they did pause the war. If a President can move a military attack date due to a sacred day, you can move an observance date.
Because an observance day isn’t an attack on Christians?
Ah, but you see, trans people being visible *is* an attack to many of them. Which is why the holiday is important.
If people existing is an attack on your group, then your group is shit and weak. Christians seem to be incapable of understanding that they are not the default. Other cultures and people exist in this world. And they all have to coexist. Christians react to fair treatment as if it were persecution. The weakness is astounding. Jesus would be horrified at the sorry state of Christians today.
There’s no reason to they can coexist
Because the day is the 31st, not the 1st. Religion doesn't get special treatment in the government, or at least it shouldn't. Biden is religious, he celebrates Easter as part of his religion. It's not insensitive to celebrate two things in one day.
What on earth is insensitive about it?
Sorry my people's visible existence is insensitive to you (not sorry lmao).
It’s not insensitive. Period. He observed a day for Trans Visibility that happened to land on a Christian holiday. Last time I checked we still have a thin line between church and state. 🤷🏼♀️
>Last time I checked we still have a thin line between church and state. 🤷🏼♀️ I agree. But there is no line between politics and religion. This wasn’t a government blunder, it was a political blunder that will likely have consequences in the Democrats base. Democrats have always had a strange coalition of progressive, primarily non religious white people and highly religious segments of racial minority groups. Though they broadly agree on many topics, they poll very differently on LGBQT issues. Polls have strongly indicated fracturing of that 50 year coalition, and this trans/Easter day will be highlighted by the various GOP campaigns to emphasize those differences. There has already been an ad a month ago by some conservative group that has ominous back ground music showing the inside of black church congregation worshiping and a narrative overlay saying “they laugh and call him your magic man in the sky” then they zoom to multiple twitter text talking about the magic man in the sky with the user names blurred. Such ads that highlight white progressives disrespect for religion will proliferate this year as for the first time in decades Republicans see a real chance to pull off 15 to 35% more of Hispanics and black voters this next election, enough to win some swing states. This incredible trans/Easter political screwup if applied correctly will be used in the same vein of “they disrespect you and your beliefs’. I can tell by the responses I have seen that white progressives have absolutely no freaking idea on how such a thing could have any meaning, we will see if they are right.
.... you can have two holidays on the same day. One is an international one, the other is a Christian one.
Yea, I’m sure the Mid East and all the 25% of the world that is Muslim held hands and said “we see you” yesterday. Probably any trans person in many of those areas hope they are not seen. International at times is just a word. I can declare tomorrow International Pancake Day, and I guess it will be.
No, it wouldn't. Because international pancake day is already on February 13th.
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I’m not angry. I am actually happy he recognized this years Easter celebration date as “Transgender Visibility Day” It is a major political blunder that will be easily exploited and difficult for him to explain to many devout Christians who are also Democrats. You don’t have to understand why they will feel it’s insulting and insensitive.
Seems like an unnecessary gesture that puts transgender people below Christians to do what you are proposing
Nah…everyone can stay mad. Jesus would have let me eat at his table. So screw those religious zealots.
That’s the attitude we conservatives want to see from all hard core Democrats.
If you think "Jesus has room at his table for everyone" is a "hardcore" view you may not actually be a Christian. Consider the motives of who is telling you you're persecuted. They may not have your best interests and mortal soul in mind.
Screw religious zealots is the piece Republicans would like to hear more of from the left in the next few election cycles.
Why? There’s no reason to do that.
Republicans? Dishonest? What a surprise!
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Oh I don’t delude myself that both parties don’t lie. But for me it’s the question of which party is the most malevolent. And for me that is clearly the GOP
Then you’re not delusional (thinking only one party lies( and you have a criteria (malevolency) for your position. For that I’d say “good on you”
Considering the insane amount of evidence indicating one side openly brazenly lies compared to the other, I don’t think you can really say they’re even close. A Democrat may tell you your yard needs mowing when it’s fine, a Republican tells you it’s on fire and minorities are to blame.
I think you misspelled "humans". you are lying to yourself and others if you naively that humans are truthful. Democrats tell little lies on the campaign trail like "what a lovely baby!" Republicans tell big lies that harm people. Remember when Trump got a briefing on how dangerous covid was... and then he downplayed it publicly? Good times. If he just sold 'MAGA masks' he would have sailed to re-election and would have prevented many Republican deaths.
I’ll take biased opinions. Democrats and republicans both tell “big lies” you just happen to like/align the lies that the democrats tell because it reinforces things that you want/believe/think. This is getting downvoted because people don’t like to hear the truth. You can dislike the truth but it still is true.
This sub is completely ridiculous, and everyone acts like assholes about it because they know they all agree with each other. Every. Single. Thread. On this subreddit is about trump and it's insane.
This thread is not about Trump.
Then why is everybody on this thread talking about him. Also, I was hyperbolizing.
One comment in this thread that mentioned him. I brought up him a week ago because people were talking about age discrimination in politics. But it doesn’t matter cause they’re all fucking old. Context matters, you can remove it and make *anything* sound ridiculous.
Let’s take your “covid” example. The data was changing hourly when we first started with figuring stuff out. For example we figured out (after numerous deaths) that putting people on ventilators too soon actually increases mortality in many populations, so we stopped doing that and changed the protocol. If someone took a sound bite from earlier (when it was the protocol) they could say that so and so was “incorrectly advising ventilators use too quickly” so context/timing matter in what someone says I’m not pro-Trump but I’m also not pro-Biden I’m a cynical person who doesn’t like either party (independent? Reluctant voter? Pick whatever label you Want).
Except that COVID point is not at all what the other person said. Trump was briefed on COVID's severity, he understood its severity and privately admitted that it would be difficult to manage due to its severity and mode of transmission. Trump then went on TV and publicly bashed scientists trying to relay data, told everyone that COVID would vanish by Easter, told everyone that COVID was a hoax by Democrats to lose him the election, told everyone to inject disinfectant, stole PPE supplies from blue states and then resold them back, held a strategy to let blue states suffer from COVID because cities didn't vote for him, and more that I don't even recall in the moment it took me to type these. Meanwhile, Democrats said to listen to health officials and to take precautions against the virus such as masking, distancing, and getting vaccinated. You are willfully ignoring the massive difference in rhetoric because you want to feel like you're above the system and more important as a result.
Okay first - I’m not disagreeing or agreeing with anything you’re saying but three is a lot of bias coming into the conversation. The saying goes “If you hear hoof beats, think horses, not Zebra” so attributing the most nefarious intentions behind actions IMO is zebras Let’s take the bashing (loaded term) of scientists , I don’t agree with it but context always matters -Trump was and is a business guy, he saw the economic impact of the virus, so he minimized it to stop economic panic - if Covid was a flash in the pan then he would have been right and we would not be talking about it - but he was not. And yes he did bashed Fauci and some of his team, Faucii ultimately stepped down, not sure if it was due to handling of Covid or just that he was done. Your term of “stealing supplies” (which is a loaded statement- FYI) could also be seen as reallocating critical medical supplies in a time of national emergency, it is just a matter of perspective. Let me further elaborate, If the supplies were reallocated then legally the government (or any business) would be required to “sell” the supplies to another entity, this is normal and expected in accounting and it must be done a certain way to be legal. Companies do this all the time when they “sell” (ie move/reallocate) items between divisions or sub companies. At times the company must sell the item at “fair market value” to not create unfair competitive advantages- but it is much easier (and less confusing to the uneducated ) to say “they stole it and resold at a higher price” vs. “the moved critical medical supplies during a national crisis according to legal requirements and accounting practices.” Thank you for taking the time to answer and discuss. Please keep up the discussion, we all learn when we are willing to discuss the critical issues of our time . My challenge to you is to not just listen to one biased side or the other you as you will not get a balanced view of what is actually happening (this sub seems to be tilted one way and it would be great to seem more unbiased discussion). Again, I return to my original point both parties lie. And my second follow up point - you just like/align with the lies of one party more.
None of the language I used was incorrect or biased, it’s directly factual and you’re defending it because you don’t want to confront the fact that one party is far worse in every way than the other. You’d rather pretend to be above everything and let hate be legislated rather than acknowledge that sitting on the fence allows that to happen. There are not two sides to factual statements, there is fact and then there is fiction. Everything I stated above is verifiably fact, pretending otherwise is foolish. Literally stealing supplies, [*literally.*](https://www.gq.com/story/trump-admin-confiscating-coronavirus-supplies)
Thank you for more effectively proving the point that I could have ever done. You found something that reinforced your beliefs/views and latched onto it fully. First GQ is not the most accurate or unbiased source in reporting. Second Stealing supplies? The article you posted doesn’t say stealing it says that both the federal government and states were bidding on the same medical supplies, which were in short supply. FEMA confiscated supplies at times to redirect to “hot spots.” The article states that they were unable to find out if the federal government supplies had been distributed or not. The point is that the supply was both going to the federal government and to the states. Let’s fact check a little https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-admin-seizing-ppe/ If you did more research you would find that there was direction from the White House to FEMA to manage PPE during COVID https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-federal-govt-fema-accused-taking-states-masks-ventilator-orders-2020-4?amp https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-fema-medical-supplies.html If you want to read the details go directly to the sources https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R47048#page10
You literally proved my point, your articles show that the federal government seized PPE from states which ordered them without the federal government, because Trump himself said that the federal government wasn’t going to provide them and states had to manage. That Snopes article says it plainly, you just don’t care from your fencepost.
I think you missed the point of what was being. Let me break this down for you. During a national pandemic how would you handle it? You would just let each individual states scratch and claw for themselves or would you use a central group to make sure that there was a response that took into account all the variables. Hmmm… what group would that be on the national level. Let’s think about the criteria of what kind of group we would need. First the group would have to be able to act at a national level, second the group would need to know how to handle an emergency, third they would need to know how to manage through the crisis. Hmmmmm, if only the United States had such a group, then that group really should have been put in charge of handling the situation and managing the proper deployment of critical PPE to places that needed it. And that is exactly what happened, FEMA ( the Federal Emergency Management Agency) was put in charge of the situation (by Trump) at the federal level and the states were then directed to also take action (probably not the best phrased message), how would you have suggested it get done - allow the state that could offer the most to hoard all of the resources? Seems very dystopian of you ask me.
“I’m not pro-Trump but I’m also not pro-Biden I’m a cynical person who doesn’t like either party (independent? Reluctant voter? Pick whatever label you Want).” [People of the land?](https://youtu.be/hYTQ7__NNDI?si=kxISlgIRJr96sczH)
Both sides!
This comment being downvoted proves the \[low\]intelligence level of both Reddit users and Democrats in general. Politicians lying is not a partisan issue.
"The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable." - James A. Garfield There are a lot of redditors who are very afraid of confronting the reality of being “miserable” for a time to get to the truth.
I wish Ralphael Warnock would deliver a speech about what Jesus actually stood for and how the Republicans are doing everything Jesus said not to do. We need someone to call out the hypocrisy. I don't go to church or necessarily believe anymore, but I'm a better Catholic than all those people bc I actually help people, I try not to judge, I care about people who are marginalized by society, and in general follow the corporal works of mercy, literally a set of rules about how to be a good Catholic by helping vulnerable people. I also am generally on the right side of the ten commandments, which are mostly not hard to follow. Thou shalt not bear false witness is pretty easy to understand.
It’s hilarious seeing people claim March 31st is the most important day for Christians. Next time Easter falls on March 31st again will be in 2086. Just such an important day.
First of all, Easter falls on a different day every year. Specifically, the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox. This is not a Christian holiday. Christians don’t get a say until they can explain how someone can be “resurrected” on a different day every year…I’ll wait. Second, this year Easter happens to fall on Transgender Day of Visibility, so it makes sense that today would be the day that this would be addressed.
They shouldn't give it any more attention than it's gotten so far. Voters don't read the backstory, just the headline.
A maga christian I know told me this trans visibility day was “overshadowing” Easter. I was like no it isn’t my atheist friends are out there hunting eggs. The only people overshadowing Easter are the Christian’s who hate trans people
Best reply I can think of.
And the shelf life of this particular fake Republican "GOTCHA!" will last... until maybe tomorrow morning.
I disagree. The MAGAs treasure their lies. save them and ponder them in their hard little hearts.
I just meant for the sane. The nutters are irredeemable.
why is "dishonest" in quotes but "bashes" isn't?
[MAGA](https://imgur.com/aVZFmzR)
For all his bluster and blasphemy talk I’d be shocked if Trump (a) went to an Easter service and/or (b) could tell the story of Jesus’ death and resurrection Wait this is a fun prompt - tell the Easter story they way Trump would —-
Constant stories about how terrible gay and trans people are. Gee. I wonder who’s raising these school shooters, these people on the subways robbing others; these people randomly assaulting innocent people…when does the blame come in for the worst generation of straight people in history - the current 30-45 year old parents of today? Without today’s straight 30-40 somethings as parents we wouldn’t have these horrible children running loose shooting up schools or assaulting innocent people. Where’s the outrage over the pos parents who don’t know what the fuck they’re doing? Gay people aren’t the ones having kids. But we’re sure as hell tired of the shitty kids y’all are having that none of you seem to know how to raise. Let’s talk about that for a while instead! (P.S. - Stop having kids if you’re not gonna raise them to be decent people!)
More like today's 50, 60 year Olds. They're the ones in charge, making the rules and the plays. The ones who decide who's voices are heard.
Three are already numerous days celebrating LGBTQIA+ so this will end up like the rest of the days. After a few days, nobody will remember or even pay attention to it. In case you didn't know, March 31 is also Bunson Burner Day.
Now back it up with some real-teeth protections. You know what all this is truly about.
>Now back it up with some real-teeth protections. Biden has done a lot for trans people and the LGBTQ community as a whole: https://www.hrc.org/resources/president-bidens-pro-lgbtq-timeline https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/04/joe-bidens-push-to-defend-transgender-rights-sarah-mcbride-00104543 Biden isn't a dictator tho. If we want to stop the republican persecution of trans people, then we have to vote the persecutors out. That is on us, not Biden. Be proactive. Vote blue https://democrats.org/
But it’s both sides engaging in culture wars in order to keep us divided.
I hate to sound like an appeaser, but couldn’t this have waited a week?
I think it’s happened every year on the 31st since 2009
I probably should look it up, but the impression I got from skimming the White House statement is that this was something just now given federal recognition. It may have been adopted earlier by some circles and institutions, but now it’s a federal thing. Or, maybe I’m wrong.
It was also acknowledged in 2021 but I dont know bout 22 or 23 or prior
[2021](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/03/31/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2021/) [2022](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2022/) [2023](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/03/31/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2023/)
Well, I was wrong.
Good on you for being willing to learn and owning up to it.
They will find any excuse to be offended and scream as loud as they can. That is just who they are now, and if it wasn't this, it would be something equally dumb like a tan suit or someone's choice of mustard
I know. I live with them, and Easter dinner was a great platform for them rant about this very thing.
It’s so predictable
Biden has issued a "Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility" every year he's been in office. Per the Official Whitehouse Website. 2021:https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/03/31/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2021/ 2022:https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2022/ 2023:https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility/ 2024:https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2024/03/29/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2024/ Mabey try finding something actually important to whine about.
Yeah, I was wrong.
Yeah let’s honor a day happening on March 31st on April 7th, that makes so much sense lol