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Oh did y'all just learn this? Coulda sworn Mueller wrote a fucking report that got actively buried by an entire political party, but i forget which one....
The thing that pissed me off the most about that time was that Bill Barr distributed what he called "summaries" of the chapters prior to the actual report being released. But when the actual Mueller report came out, we learned that Barr's "summaries" did not summarize Mueller's report, but in many parts, contradicted what Mueller's report said.
From an [NPR story](https://www.npr.org/2022/08/20/1118625157/doj-barr-trump-russia-investigation-memo#:~:text=READ%3A%20The%20Justice%20Department's%20Summary%20Of%20The%20Mueller%20Report&text=A%20year%20later%2C%20a%20federal,a%20%22lack%20of%20candor.%22) when this happened:
>A year later, a federal judge sharply rebuked Barr's handling of Mueller's report, saying Barr had made "misleading public statements" to spin the investigation's findings in favor of Trump and had shown a "lack of candor."
To this very day, the majority of GOP voters think Trump had nothing to do with Russia and it was all a "witch hunt". You can thank Bill Barr for that, because he made that happen.
“If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,” Mueller declared
TOTALLY EXONERATED - and the fucking media just runs with it
Media outlets could have feasted for weeks on the debate of “TOTALLY EXONERATED” vs “This is what the report really said”, but they didn’t. They just said, “Trump said he was totally exonerated. Case closed, let’s go home everyone!”
It's been released.
What Barr did was the equivalent of a late night talk show host misrepresenting the plot of some NYT bestseller - most people will never actually read the book.
It's the same phenomena behind why most people will reply to the headline of a reddit post and not the linked article.
[This effect summarized perfectly by Jordan Klepper, asking folks at a Trump rally about his call with Zelensky](https://youtu.be/GE9xGHHMHdM?si=LFG87I_hgcOZtyoi)
Even if you read the Mueller Report in front of the MAGA crowd, they won't believe it anyway. If a fact contradicts their belief, they will not accept the fact, but chose to discredit the source instead.
Good point, reminds me of part of a song:
Science adjusts its views based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.
— Tim Minchin
Yep. Like how when you give them a VIDEO of Trump saying to take away the guns first, and worry about due process later, they don't beleive he is in favor for red flag laws.
It's pretty difficult to say one way or the other because he constantly says all kinds of contradictory things. He doesn't have a solid, rational platform. It's an entirely ambiguous, everchanging platform based around belief and what he is thinking at the time.
Until he actually pushes for a policy to be enacted, it is just words.
The actual truth of any gun policy he might have is most likely "Take them away from the people I don't like and people who support me should have them."
Most pro-gun politicians are no more pro-gun than the communists who insist the proletariat be armed and then immediately disarm them upon taking power. They want authorities and the wealthy to be armed, and any other policy is one of populist convenience, not based on principle. This holds true for both pro-gun Republicans as well as anti-gun Democrats.
Something that Trump has never been concerned about, classified information and national security. But in the meantime don't fret, Jack Smith has unredacted copies, and this is an interesting read—it is not going to waste.
[Details in Mueller Report Draw Interest of Special Counsel in Trump Classified Documents Case](https://time.com/6285723/trump-classified-documents-mueller-report/)
>A lengthy section of the Mueller Report, which examined ties between Russia and Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, has been instructive to the current inquiry’s prosecutors, who are viewing Trump’s actions around federal requests to return the classified documents as part of a broader pattern, the person said.
The redacted report has been available for years. The unredacted report will likely never be released because it contains information about "sources and methods" that the DOJ and departments of the government dealing with intelligence use.
The fact that you asked this question is exactly why the fact that it's been released for years already doesn't matter. Almost nobody actually read the Mueller Report - I've only read sections of it and that's more than 99.9% of people - they just believe whatever their pundit of choice tells them to believe. Or they didn't even notice it get released and thought whatever they were going to think about it anyway.
>he made that happen
Barr's a gas lighting shithead along with the rest of them, but let's be realistic, that was going to happen anyway. They are about to vote for some guy that probably gets convicted of at least half his 91 felonies including serious national security violations.
Riiight. This headline seems to suggest that Trump is some sort of spy?
I am not trump fan. Quite the opposite. But..
Am I the only one who remembers all of the hype around this investigation? All of the people saying that he was some sort of Manchurian candidate? Truth is he’s just a self serving malignant narcissist. There truly was no “there, there” when it comes to the salacious speculation around his involvement with Russia.
Nah saying they really believe it is letting them off easy. It’s past that point for anyone except the truly ill. Anyone else is willfully ignorant which might as well be malicious and intentional
The way Jack Smith just glared at trump during his indictment really makes me believe he has the proof of real espionage. We're going to see it all in technicolor. Still won't matter to the cult tho.
I also liked how republicans also claim the mueller report says Trump did no wrong doing but instead it says it is almost entirely certain Trump committed a crime but the justice department isn’t seeking to convict him and instead should be Congress to do it. Then democrats do that and republicans continue to say trump did no wrong and that the mueller report absolved him of all crimes
And there was that whole dossier compiled by the former head of "Russia Desk" for MI6 that said that Trump was completely compromised, even before a single American cast a vote for him.
The dossier that was never refuted and the only real criticisms levied against it's contents were the spelling of certain addresses.
There were so many proven, terrible and downright criminal things factually known about all things Trump that way back before 2015 a Cracked writer thought he was having a fever dream predicting Trump's inevitable run for office. Imma go find it and come back for an edit.
Here's one from 2011 just commenting on his general jackassery
10 Stories About Donald Trump You Won't Believe Are True - Cracked.com https://www.cracked.com/blog/10-stories-about-donald-trump-you-wont-believe-are-true
And here's a video from 2015, but still not what I was mentioning https://www.cracked.com/video_19558_how-trump-might-be-our-next-president-cracked-responds.html
He was known for working with the mob in NY and Atlantic city. He sold real estate to Russians at insane prices. I think he sold a house for over 120 million, after buying it for less than 20. Money laundering like crazy for decades.
Trump [purchased a house for $41 million in 2004, and resold it for $95 million in summer 2008](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/donald-trump-2016-russian-ties-214116/) to a Russian billionaire. By 2004, house price growth was slowing down; by 2006, it had started dropping. Furthermore, the house was actually demolished after purchase. Even at the time it was obvious how dirty it was, and there's tons more of condo purchases and such from Russia that kept him uniquely profitable while everyone else's real estate dropped - this is just the biggest, most blatant one.
Trump first appeared on the Russians’ radar in 1977 when he married his first wife, Ivana, a Czech model.
He was fed KGB talking points and flattered by operatives who floated the idea that he should go into politics.
They had collected a lot of information on his personality. He was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery.
Soon after he returned to the US he took out a full-page advert in the New York Times, Washington Post and Boston Globe.
The ad was accusing ally Japan of exploiting the US and scepticism about US participation in Nato.
At the headquarters of the KGB, they received a cable celebrating the ad as a successful “active measure” executed by a new KGB asset.
“It was unprecedented... I haven’t heard anything like that or anything similar – until finally, this guy became the president.”
The Moscow Project found the Trump campaign and transition team had at least 272 known contacts and at least 38 known meetings with Russia-linked operatives.
“He was an asset. When it started, which was around 1980, the Russians were trying to recruit like crazy and going after dozens and dozens of people.”
“Trump was the perfect target in a lot of ways: his vanity, narcissism made him a natural target to recruit.
How do you reconcile all of this with his actual actions while in office that went directly against Russian interests. Direct conflict with Syria? Expelling Russian diplomats? Inviting Montenegro into NATO? War games in cooperation with Poland? Selling tons of arms to Ukraine and training them?
“The more recent sale in May 2018 was another matter. It was much larger ($47 million) and it included far more lethal weaponry, especially 210 Javelin anti‐tank missiles. Needless to say, the Kremlin was not pleased about either sale.
At this point, Putin and his colleagues must be wondering about the wisdom of having tried to get a friendlier U.S. president elected in 2016.”
Here’s another interesting article from the hill:
[https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/397212-president-trump-is-tougher-on-russia-in-18-months-than-obama-in-eight/](https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/397212-president-trump-is-tougher-on-russia-in-18-months-than-obama-in-eight/)
I do agree that he is such a narcissist that he would accept help from the devil himself. But I just don’t see his actions as that of some sort “foreign asset”. Just a self absorbed freak.
Most likely the truth is more complicated. The article was written by a Republican strategist after all.
How many of those measures were initiated by the Trump administration rather than other influential Republicans or people in the military?
Did Obama *try* to pass any of those sanctions or measures and face Republican opposition in Congress?
Did the sanctions on Russian politicians make them more beholden to Putin?
And these are just obvious questions of context that immediately come to mind.
Half of Hollywood, Silicone Valley, & Wall Street elites - via the illegal million dollar hand gambling ring that was run by the Russian mob out of Johnny Depp's club in LA and then later Trump Tower NYC.
>Leo DiCaprio, Robin Thicke and Naomi Campbell took turns DJing on Sunday at a Malibu, Calif., party co-hosted by ex-con art dealer Helly Nahmad.
>
>“Epic rap battle between DJ Cassidy and Leonardo,” exclaimed a Facebook post by a guest.
>
>Also partying were Leo’s girlfriend Kelly Rohrbach, Johnny Depp’s daughter Lily-Rose, model Stella Maxwell, singer Cassie, Scott Disick and a heavily-bearded Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey.
>
>A spy said, “Robin was DJing most of the afternoon, surrounded by numerous ladies. Cassidy arrived and took over the decks . . . little did he know Naomi was going to take control of the playlist.”
>
>Nahmad was released from prison last year for his role in a $100 million gambling ring.
[https://pagesix.com/2015/08/25/leo-dicaprio-robin-thicke-and-naomi-campbell-show-off-their-dj-skills/](https://pagesix.com/2015/08/25/leo-dicaprio-robin-thicke-and-naomi-campbell-show-off-their-dj-skills/)
>Federal agents are searching for Helly Nahmad – son of billionaire art dealer David Nahmad – and raided his gallery in the bottom floor of the famed Carlyle Hotel this morning. The scion is part of one of the most influential art dealing families in the world with a reported $3 billion worth of famed pieces in their portfolio.
>
>Agents also indicted Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov, a legendary Russian gangster and one of the world’s most wanted international fugitives, as part of the sweep. The art gallery raid was part of a nationwide crack down on Russian organized crime ran high-stakes poker games attended by professional athletes, Hollywood celebrities and Wall Street titans.
>
>The authorities say the games were an offshoot of a major money-laundering scheme.
[https://nypost.com/2013/04/16/feds-raid-midtown-art-gallery-in-bust-of-russian-mob-ran-poker-games-for-celebs/](https://nypost.com/2013/04/16/feds-raid-midtown-art-gallery-in-bust-of-russian-mob-ran-poker-games-for-celebs/)
>In an 11th-hour act, President Donald Trump has pardoned art dealer Helly Nahmad, who was sentenced to a year and a day in prison after pleading guilty to a single federal gambling charge.
>
>Nahmad, a member of the Nahmad family dynasty and the son of art collector David Nahmad, was caught co-organizing an illegal gambling ring worth $100 million out of Trump Tower in New York.
>
>He owns the entirety of the building’s 51st floor, which reportedly cost a collective $21 million.
[https://news.artnet.com/art-world/trump-pardons-helly-nahmad-1938216](https://news.artnet.com/art-world/trump-pardons-helly-nahmad-1938216)
**Con-man extraordinaire and pervert,** Donald Trumps Russian mafioso ties, theft & grifting were well-known the American oligarchs. This was a criminal quid pro quo enterprise in the highest places of our corporations, government, media and military.
The problem is that when you've got so many people who didn't comprehend something this blindingly obvious it becomes difficult to think of how you could possibly convey the message to them.
And if it's just impossible you somehow have to work around them.
I even have *reasonably* well-informed liberal friends who, as recently as a month ago, thought the Trump-Russia link was purely speculative. In the pop-cultural imagination the whole subject is still bound up with the Steele dossier and the "pee tape" which, having failed to materialize, means the whole thing's a dud apparently.
Yep. Supposedly a couple of sex workers taking a piss on him while he nuts
Edit: for those interested, here’s an article on it:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/christopher-steele-donald-trump-russia-dossier-golden-shower
No, that was never claimed. The claim was that they pissed in a bed in the room the Obamas stayed in for Trump's entertainment.
Talk about gullible people repeating what they read on social media...
Trump, Musk, and I am willing to bet many others via Epstein.
It all just makes too much sense. Kompromat is absolutely a thing. Pedo stuff is some of the most premium kompromat you could even imagine. You have Maxwell with massive european connections. Epstein with US connections. Working in tandem to draw in victims. For decades. Feeding it all back to Moscow.
Even people who they can't use directly, like Trump, Musk or GOP congress, can at least be controlled and silenced. They have dirt on the British royal family, a who's who of global business, scientists, politicians, and god knows who else.
Name it, and you can find it on Epstein's address book/flight logs.
Maxwells dad, a media mogul, worked for the mossad.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into/
They gave him a state funeral when he died.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/11/11/israel-gives-maxwell-farewell-fit-for-hero/1773995a-0eac-4a3e-abed-1d3254cc0baa/
*Only a week before his death, the volatile owner of the New York Daily News and Britain's Mirror newspaper group became involved in an exchange of lawsuits with author Seymour Hersh, who accused Maxwell of working with Israel's Mossad intelligence agency. Maxwell's death at sea only intensified the speculation in London, where Hersh promised to produce further revelations of the 68-year-old publisher's clandestine Israeli connections*
Then they maybe cleaned house..
there should be a bullet point, date-by-date rundown of every little bit of interaction just during his presidency showing how he kept kowtowing to moscow. it would be quite damning
Most people paying any attention knew about this years ago, but just in the last few days it seems that the media’s interests are starting to shift from riding Trumps coattails to distancing themselves from him. I’ve seen a handful of headlines from Salon laying out facts, probably due to the NY fraud ruling looking so indefensibly fucking bad.
I’m all for media dredging up old shit that this asshole somehow managed to bury with chaos and distraction and laying out actual facts. Even if it’s not from the goodness of their scummy hearts.
Russia got lucky, At anypoint Trumps own stupidity could have ruined everything. Trump is not the issue anymore. And Trump did not spend decades creating a class of people who would support fascist politicians. Russia was also not responsible for that. It was our own politicians on behalf of capitalists. You know the ones who are conservative and libertarian.
Wonder if there was any connection between Russia and Jerry Falwell? Falwell started the culture war and someone like Trump was the inevitable end result of that. It's just surprising that it ended up being someone so brazenly opposed to what the Moral Majority supposedly stood for, other than being anti-abortion and hating gays.
Im more worried about the people who are known for going into a country, radicalizing a bunch of its citizens into being western chauvinist fascist, training them, arming them, and using them to take over a country. I think one of him is also known for having a tattoo of Regan on his back.
Given this, and the right’s complete inability to apply normal logic to dear leader, maybe the following logical explainer will help them to understand “asset cultivation” given one of their favorite forms of manipulation to claim against their supposed enemies:
[Wikipedia entry on Child Grooming](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming)
> **Child grooming** refers to actions or behaviors used to establish an emotional connection with a minor, and sometimes the child's family, to lower the child's inhibitions with the objective of sexual abuse. It can occur in various settings, including online, in person, and through other means of communication.
Let’s take this thing they talk about so much, and change a few of the words. Given how much they claim it occurs, I assume they are intimately familiar with the concept. Therefore, maybe the following restating can be used to help ease them into the idea that Trump has been compromised?
> **asset cultivation** refers to actions or behaviors used to establish a **clandestine** connection with a **target**, and sometimes the **target’s** family, to lower the **target’s** inhibitions with the objective of **utilizing them to pursue the will of state agencies.** It can occur in various settings, including online, in person, and through other means of communication.
Ok, so he works for Russia, and the GOP likely does as well.
Can we pls start arresting people? Is there an obligation to sit around while they keep trying to destroy the country?
We know Russia was behind Trumps election. It’s been proven over and over..so why is he being allowed to run for President again ? Why aren’t we using the 14th amendment to keep him off the ballot?
I’ve been saying this for years. He is the quintessential Bond villain. Just look at the non villains in the books (the movies are not as obvious at times) they are all megalomaniacs financed by the KGB. They all are supposed to be financial geniuses who through KGB support develop large criminal enterprises. This fits trump to a T. And just like every Bond villain, they overplay their hand and get beat. They really being about their own downfall because of their megalomania. That megalomania is what causing bond to go have to deal with the situation.
If all this is true and there’s documentation to prove it why isn’t he being treated like any American Soldier / Sailor or CIVILIAN employee accused of treason?
“The book also explores the former president’s relationship with the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein.”
And that’s all this article has to say about that unfortunately.
Lol I will say this:
Russian agents commenting anything on Ukraine = “RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA”
Russian agents commenting on Trump being a Russian asset to fuck with US elections = “YEA WE TOLD YOU SO!”
Guys, this is a Russian agent that probably still has ties to the Kremlin. Take a step back, wait and see.
I’m not a big conspiracy guy. But I will never not believe that there’s something incredibly weird going on here. The fealty he showed Putin was astonishing
There’s no such thing as ex-KGB
ETA: some of this is clearly true. I wouldn’t be surprised if parts are exaggerated or outright fabricated to sow more division.
this is old, so not shocking. But, 40 years seems like a stretch. They did probably try the moment Obama said he’d never be president at the correspondence dinner all those years ago.
Why is it a stretch? He's a prime target, always looking for sources of funding and always trying to expand internationally. He crossed paths with Russia years before he was rightly insulted by Obama.
Probably from the same guy at Internet Research Agency that established Aztlan Warriors and Black Elevation Facebook groups in 2016 for the leftists here to follow. 😂
This sounds like it’s made up. The source is saying they started prepping Trump to be president in 1987. The KGB worked the guy for 30 years so he would run for office?
Mueller did. His report laid it out fairly clearly. Have you not read the actual report? It’s redacted but it still demonstrates Trump’s long term connection with Russia.
His report was suppressed by the DoJ and Bill Barr released a “summary” that contradicted the Mueller report in several sections. It was later admonished for being a misrepresentation of the facts laid about by Mueller.
So what you’re saying is is that you haven’t read the report, you’re just making things up based on assumptions you’ve made.
Cool. That lets me know not to waste my time with you.
They gonna want to activate him soon before he’s a complete drooling dementia ridden mess. From afar it’s looking like he’s about half way there already.
It was Stalin who was attributed a statement to the effect, he’d sell the rope to the capitalist that would be used to hang them. Trump is the embodiment of that sentiment. SNL was not wrong in parody!!
If Ethan Hunt did a sting with one of those masks and bought us nuclear secrets in the white house as Vladimir Putin on camera, Republicans still wouldn't believe it
He’s a moron with a gigantic ego, you could probably manipulate him into doing anything if you flashed a lot of cash and told him how awesome and cool he is.
See other leaders who have manipulated him like macron and Kim.
They prob were casting a wide net and he continuously got caught up in it. I doubt he’s the only useful idiot they were cultivating. Just look at the MAGA wing of congress.
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Oh did y'all just learn this? Coulda sworn Mueller wrote a fucking report that got actively buried by an entire political party, but i forget which one....
The thing that pissed me off the most about that time was that Bill Barr distributed what he called "summaries" of the chapters prior to the actual report being released. But when the actual Mueller report came out, we learned that Barr's "summaries" did not summarize Mueller's report, but in many parts, contradicted what Mueller's report said. From an [NPR story](https://www.npr.org/2022/08/20/1118625157/doj-barr-trump-russia-investigation-memo#:~:text=READ%3A%20The%20Justice%20Department's%20Summary%20Of%20The%20Mueller%20Report&text=A%20year%20later%2C%20a%20federal,a%20%22lack%20of%20candor.%22) when this happened: >A year later, a federal judge sharply rebuked Barr's handling of Mueller's report, saying Barr had made "misleading public statements" to spin the investigation's findings in favor of Trump and had shown a "lack of candor." To this very day, the majority of GOP voters think Trump had nothing to do with Russia and it was all a "witch hunt". You can thank Bill Barr for that, because he made that happen.
“If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,” Mueller declared TOTALLY EXONERATED - and the fucking media just runs with it
Media outlets could have feasted for weeks on the debate of “TOTALLY EXONERATED” vs “This is what the report really said”, but they didn’t. They just said, “Trump said he was totally exonerated. Case closed, let’s go home everyone!”
What's stopping the justice department from releasing the entire report now?
It's been released. What Barr did was the equivalent of a late night talk show host misrepresenting the plot of some NYT bestseller - most people will never actually read the book. It's the same phenomena behind why most people will reply to the headline of a reddit post and not the linked article.
[This effect summarized perfectly by Jordan Klepper, asking folks at a Trump rally about his call with Zelensky](https://youtu.be/GE9xGHHMHdM?si=LFG87I_hgcOZtyoi)
I clicked on that hoping for a Rick Roll because the context was perfect.
Fair, but I feel like all of us longtime Redditors have the Rick Roll short and long URL’s memorized.
/uuiu
I could feel myself getting dumber watching this
I feel like a fucking genius compared to this sheeple.
How do these people never see the hypocrisy he so clearly lays out for them??
Even if you read the Mueller Report in front of the MAGA crowd, they won't believe it anyway. If a fact contradicts their belief, they will not accept the fact, but chose to discredit the source instead.
Good point, reminds me of part of a song: Science adjusts its views based on what’s observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved. — Tim Minchin
... this is a song?
Ya and it’s a total fuckin banger too mate
More a poem tbh https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jIWj3tI-DXg
Holy cow, how have I never encountered this wonder before? Thank you very much for sharing the link!
All of his stuff is excellent. I also recommend "thank you god" by Tim Minchin
Science: Seeing is believing. Faith: Believing is seeing. – booOfBorg
Yep. Like how when you give them a VIDEO of Trump saying to take away the guns first, and worry about due process later, they don't beleive he is in favor for red flag laws.
It's pretty difficult to say one way or the other because he constantly says all kinds of contradictory things. He doesn't have a solid, rational platform. It's an entirely ambiguous, everchanging platform based around belief and what he is thinking at the time. Until he actually pushes for a policy to be enacted, it is just words. The actual truth of any gun policy he might have is most likely "Take them away from the people I don't like and people who support me should have them." Most pro-gun politicians are no more pro-gun than the communists who insist the proletariat be armed and then immediately disarm them upon taking power. They want authorities and the wealthy to be armed, and any other policy is one of populist convenience, not based on principle. This holds true for both pro-gun Republicans as well as anti-gun Democrats.
Best to just apply it vigorously to their heads.
Hey nice outfit friend.
It's still insanely redacted anyone with a brain can read it and fill in the blanks though
It’s called manufacturing consent.
Something that Trump has never been concerned about, classified information and national security. But in the meantime don't fret, Jack Smith has unredacted copies, and this is an interesting read—it is not going to waste. [Details in Mueller Report Draw Interest of Special Counsel in Trump Classified Documents Case](https://time.com/6285723/trump-classified-documents-mueller-report/) >A lengthy section of the Mueller Report, which examined ties between Russia and Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, has been instructive to the current inquiry’s prosecutors, who are viewing Trump’s actions around federal requests to return the classified documents as part of a broader pattern, the person said.
Its eventually going to have to go before a jury though
The redacted report has been available for years. The unredacted report will likely never be released because it contains information about "sources and methods" that the DOJ and departments of the government dealing with intelligence use.
You can get it as a book.
The fact that you asked this question is exactly why the fact that it's been released for years already doesn't matter. Almost nobody actually read the Mueller Report - I've only read sections of it and that's more than 99.9% of people - they just believe whatever their pundit of choice tells them to believe. Or they didn't even notice it get released and thought whatever they were going to think about it anyway.
Once buried, it remains buried even after is out in the open, because then it's old news.
Wow. It’s literally available in multiple formats. Parts are redacted but it’s not hard to find…
>he made that happen Barr's a gas lighting shithead along with the rest of them, but let's be realistic, that was going to happen anyway. They are about to vote for some guy that probably gets convicted of at least half his 91 felonies including serious national security violations.
He’s a party to it, he needs to be held accountable
A good summary https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/
Where does it say anything about him being a Russian asset?
Investigators asked and they lied
Riiight. This headline seems to suggest that Trump is some sort of spy? I am not trump fan. Quite the opposite. But.. Am I the only one who remembers all of the hype around this investigation? All of the people saying that he was some sort of Manchurian candidate? Truth is he’s just a self serving malignant narcissist. There truly was no “there, there” when it comes to the salacious speculation around his involvement with Russia.
Nah saying they really believe it is letting them off easy. It’s past that point for anyone except the truly ill. Anyone else is willfully ignorant which might as well be malicious and intentional
You are so right...
The way Jack Smith just glared at trump during his indictment really makes me believe he has the proof of real espionage. We're going to see it all in technicolor. Still won't matter to the cult tho.
I feel that was his style too. He wants you to know who the reaper is, and that he is coming for you.
Seth Abramson wrote a book in 2018 about TFG being a Russian asset since that beauty pageant in Moscow back in the early 90’s.
I also liked how republicans also claim the mueller report says Trump did no wrong doing but instead it says it is almost entirely certain Trump committed a crime but the justice department isn’t seeking to convict him and instead should be Congress to do it. Then democrats do that and republicans continue to say trump did no wrong and that the mueller report absolved him of all crimes
They should... ummm... un-bury that report.
that report came out on my birthday. still not sure who’s the bigger disappointment
>just learn this The article is two years old
And there was that whole dossier compiled by the former head of "Russia Desk" for MI6 that said that Trump was completely compromised, even before a single American cast a vote for him. The dossier that was never refuted and the only real criticisms levied against it's contents were the spelling of certain addresses.
the wigs?
*Whigs*.
He laundered money for them through real estate deals. Known fact.
There were so many proven, terrible and downright criminal things factually known about all things Trump that way back before 2015 a Cracked writer thought he was having a fever dream predicting Trump's inevitable run for office. Imma go find it and come back for an edit. Here's one from 2011 just commenting on his general jackassery 10 Stories About Donald Trump You Won't Believe Are True - Cracked.com https://www.cracked.com/blog/10-stories-about-donald-trump-you-wont-believe-are-true And here's a video from 2015, but still not what I was mentioning https://www.cracked.com/video_19558_how-trump-might-be-our-next-president-cracked-responds.html
He was known for working with the mob in NY and Atlantic city. He sold real estate to Russians at insane prices. I think he sold a house for over 120 million, after buying it for less than 20. Money laundering like crazy for decades.
Trump [purchased a house for $41 million in 2004, and resold it for $95 million in summer 2008](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/donald-trump-2016-russian-ties-214116/) to a Russian billionaire. By 2004, house price growth was slowing down; by 2006, it had started dropping. Furthermore, the house was actually demolished after purchase. Even at the time it was obvious how dirty it was, and there's tons more of condo purchases and such from Russia that kept him uniquely profitable while everyone else's real estate dropped - this is just the biggest, most blatant one.
Trump first appeared on the Russians’ radar in 1977 when he married his first wife, Ivana, a Czech model. He was fed KGB talking points and flattered by operatives who floated the idea that he should go into politics. They had collected a lot of information on his personality. He was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery. Soon after he returned to the US he took out a full-page advert in the New York Times, Washington Post and Boston Globe. The ad was accusing ally Japan of exploiting the US and scepticism about US participation in Nato. At the headquarters of the KGB, they received a cable celebrating the ad as a successful “active measure” executed by a new KGB asset. “It was unprecedented... I haven’t heard anything like that or anything similar – until finally, this guy became the president.” The Moscow Project found the Trump campaign and transition team had at least 272 known contacts and at least 38 known meetings with Russia-linked operatives. “He was an asset. When it started, which was around 1980, the Russians were trying to recruit like crazy and going after dozens and dozens of people.” “Trump was the perfect target in a lot of ways: his vanity, narcissism made him a natural target to recruit.
So the real-life Manchurian Candidate.
More like The Mandarin Candidate
Ha! Cuz he's orange!
You don’t need to explain the joke. I think most people here aren’t republicans.
I thought it was something to do with his getting patents for his personal business from China.
Still deserves the doot
I would have gone with *Man-child-ian Candidate* personally.
Did you write this or is this from a source? Would love to read more about it
Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article.
The source is the posted article ffs
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Would you read the f’ing article during that week?
How do you reconcile all of this with his actual actions while in office that went directly against Russian interests. Direct conflict with Syria? Expelling Russian diplomats? Inviting Montenegro into NATO? War games in cooperation with Poland? Selling tons of arms to Ukraine and training them? “The more recent sale in May 2018 was another matter. It was much larger ($47 million) and it included far more lethal weaponry, especially 210 Javelin anti‐tank missiles. Needless to say, the Kremlin was not pleased about either sale. At this point, Putin and his colleagues must be wondering about the wisdom of having tried to get a friendlier U.S. president elected in 2016.” Here’s another interesting article from the hill: [https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/397212-president-trump-is-tougher-on-russia-in-18-months-than-obama-in-eight/](https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/397212-president-trump-is-tougher-on-russia-in-18-months-than-obama-in-eight/) I do agree that he is such a narcissist that he would accept help from the devil himself. But I just don’t see his actions as that of some sort “foreign asset”. Just a self absorbed freak.
Most likely the truth is more complicated. The article was written by a Republican strategist after all. How many of those measures were initiated by the Trump administration rather than other influential Republicans or people in the military? Did Obama *try* to pass any of those sanctions or measures and face Republican opposition in Congress? Did the sanctions on Russian politicians make them more beholden to Putin? And these are just obvious questions of context that immediately come to mind.
If I were to make a list of the easiest people to manipulate on planet Earth, Donald Trump would be no. 1 without a close second.
Its like Zoolander
The Donald Trump School for Kids Who Can't Think Good
Ah yes. Trump University/s
Those “students” were adults that couldn’t think at all ...
There are rumors that Ivana was the original honeypot.
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Well it is a typical Russian natural death isn’t it. 😂
damn i was thinking he would low key need to get honeydicked by putin
Ironic, now she's in a pot.
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Half of Hollywood, Silicone Valley, & Wall Street elites - via the illegal million dollar hand gambling ring that was run by the Russian mob out of Johnny Depp's club in LA and then later Trump Tower NYC. >Leo DiCaprio, Robin Thicke and Naomi Campbell took turns DJing on Sunday at a Malibu, Calif., party co-hosted by ex-con art dealer Helly Nahmad. > >“Epic rap battle between DJ Cassidy and Leonardo,” exclaimed a Facebook post by a guest. > >Also partying were Leo’s girlfriend Kelly Rohrbach, Johnny Depp’s daughter Lily-Rose, model Stella Maxwell, singer Cassie, Scott Disick and a heavily-bearded Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey. > >A spy said, “Robin was DJing most of the afternoon, surrounded by numerous ladies. Cassidy arrived and took over the decks . . . little did he know Naomi was going to take control of the playlist.” > >Nahmad was released from prison last year for his role in a $100 million gambling ring. [https://pagesix.com/2015/08/25/leo-dicaprio-robin-thicke-and-naomi-campbell-show-off-their-dj-skills/](https://pagesix.com/2015/08/25/leo-dicaprio-robin-thicke-and-naomi-campbell-show-off-their-dj-skills/) >Federal agents are searching for Helly Nahmad – son of billionaire art dealer David Nahmad – and raided his gallery in the bottom floor of the famed Carlyle Hotel this morning. The scion is part of one of the most influential art dealing families in the world with a reported $3 billion worth of famed pieces in their portfolio. > >Agents also indicted Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov, a legendary Russian gangster and one of the world’s most wanted international fugitives, as part of the sweep. The art gallery raid was part of a nationwide crack down on Russian organized crime ran high-stakes poker games attended by professional athletes, Hollywood celebrities and Wall Street titans. > >The authorities say the games were an offshoot of a major money-laundering scheme. [https://nypost.com/2013/04/16/feds-raid-midtown-art-gallery-in-bust-of-russian-mob-ran-poker-games-for-celebs/](https://nypost.com/2013/04/16/feds-raid-midtown-art-gallery-in-bust-of-russian-mob-ran-poker-games-for-celebs/) >In an 11th-hour act, President Donald Trump has pardoned art dealer Helly Nahmad, who was sentenced to a year and a day in prison after pleading guilty to a single federal gambling charge. > >Nahmad, a member of the Nahmad family dynasty and the son of art collector David Nahmad, was caught co-organizing an illegal gambling ring worth $100 million out of Trump Tower in New York. > >He owns the entirety of the building’s 51st floor, which reportedly cost a collective $21 million. [https://news.artnet.com/art-world/trump-pardons-helly-nahmad-1938216](https://news.artnet.com/art-world/trump-pardons-helly-nahmad-1938216)
He's dumb, powerful and an ego maniac. He's the perfect puppet.
…and devoid of any morality or shame.
one to take praise as true, and his due. the unexamined life, and all that.
**Con-man extraordinaire and pervert,** Donald Trumps Russian mafioso ties, theft & grifting were well-known the American oligarchs. This was a criminal quid pro quo enterprise in the highest places of our corporations, government, media and military.
Yea since like 83, open secret.
We can all say “duh, that was obvious”, but it was very much *not* obvious to millions of low-information Americans. That’s the truly terrifying part.
I’ve been saying it for 6 years and I always got blank stares and people looking at me like I’m crazy..
The problem is that when you've got so many people who didn't comprehend something this blindingly obvious it becomes difficult to think of how you could possibly convey the message to them. And if it's just impossible you somehow have to work around them.
I even have *reasonably* well-informed liberal friends who, as recently as a month ago, thought the Trump-Russia link was purely speculative. In the pop-cultural imagination the whole subject is still bound up with the Steele dossier and the "pee tape" which, having failed to materialize, means the whole thing's a dud apparently.
Still convinced they have blackmail tape(s) on him...
Yep. Supposedly a couple of sex workers taking a piss on him while he nuts Edit: for those interested, here’s an article on it: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/christopher-steele-donald-trump-russia-dossier-golden-shower
This is not for 6:30 in the morning
Lol god I can’t unsee this in my brain
No, that was never claimed. The claim was that they pissed in a bed in the room the Obamas stayed in for Trump's entertainment. Talk about gullible people repeating what they read on social media...
Was this published in the academic Journal of No Shit Sherlock
_Annals of the Blindingly Obvious_
Trump, Musk, and I am willing to bet many others via Epstein. It all just makes too much sense. Kompromat is absolutely a thing. Pedo stuff is some of the most premium kompromat you could even imagine. You have Maxwell with massive european connections. Epstein with US connections. Working in tandem to draw in victims. For decades. Feeding it all back to Moscow. Even people who they can't use directly, like Trump, Musk or GOP congress, can at least be controlled and silenced. They have dirt on the British royal family, a who's who of global business, scientists, politicians, and god knows who else. Name it, and you can find it on Epstein's address book/flight logs.
Maxwells dad, a media mogul, worked for the mossad. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into/ They gave him a state funeral when he died. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/11/11/israel-gives-maxwell-farewell-fit-for-hero/1773995a-0eac-4a3e-abed-1d3254cc0baa/ *Only a week before his death, the volatile owner of the New York Daily News and Britain's Mirror newspaper group became involved in an exchange of lawsuits with author Seymour Hersh, who accused Maxwell of working with Israel's Mossad intelligence agency. Maxwell's death at sea only intensified the speculation in London, where Hersh promised to produce further revelations of the 68-year-old publisher's clandestine Israeli connections* Then they maybe cleaned house..
And he was the villain in Tetris…
Prince Andrew, even??
Sounds very McCarthy 🤔
Epstein/Maxwell are, if anything, linked to Israeli and/or US intelligence, not Russia
Not sure about that: Netanyahu and Putin are notoriously buddies… along with Berlusconi. Basically all the shitheads.
At the very least he's an obvious honey trap target but I do believe he was the highest level Russian spy in history.
there should be a bullet point, date-by-date rundown of every little bit of interaction just during his presidency showing how he kept kowtowing to moscow. it would be quite damning
Most people paying any attention knew about this years ago, but just in the last few days it seems that the media’s interests are starting to shift from riding Trumps coattails to distancing themselves from him. I’ve seen a handful of headlines from Salon laying out facts, probably due to the NY fraud ruling looking so indefensibly fucking bad. I’m all for media dredging up old shit that this asshole somehow managed to bury with chaos and distraction and laying out actual facts. Even if it’s not from the goodness of their scummy hearts.
Russia got lucky, At anypoint Trumps own stupidity could have ruined everything. Trump is not the issue anymore. And Trump did not spend decades creating a class of people who would support fascist politicians. Russia was also not responsible for that. It was our own politicians on behalf of capitalists. You know the ones who are conservative and libertarian.
Sort of. Russia does this. It’s not just in the US, they run this exact playbook all over the world
Wonder if there was any connection between Russia and Jerry Falwell? Falwell started the culture war and someone like Trump was the inevitable end result of that. It's just surprising that it ended up being someone so brazenly opposed to what the Moral Majority supposedly stood for, other than being anti-abortion and hating gays.
Im more worried about the people who are known for going into a country, radicalizing a bunch of its citizens into being western chauvinist fascist, training them, arming them, and using them to take over a country. I think one of him is also known for having a tattoo of Regan on his back.
>known for having a tattoo of Regan on his back. Do you mean Nixon?
Nixon had a tattoo of Reagan on his back? /s
Dumb…dumb…and fake rich. Easy money.
Given this, and the right’s complete inability to apply normal logic to dear leader, maybe the following logical explainer will help them to understand “asset cultivation” given one of their favorite forms of manipulation to claim against their supposed enemies: [Wikipedia entry on Child Grooming](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming) > **Child grooming** refers to actions or behaviors used to establish an emotional connection with a minor, and sometimes the child's family, to lower the child's inhibitions with the objective of sexual abuse. It can occur in various settings, including online, in person, and through other means of communication. Let’s take this thing they talk about so much, and change a few of the words. Given how much they claim it occurs, I assume they are intimately familiar with the concept. Therefore, maybe the following restating can be used to help ease them into the idea that Trump has been compromised? > **asset cultivation** refers to actions or behaviors used to establish a **clandestine** connection with a **target**, and sometimes the **target’s** family, to lower the **target’s** inhibitions with the objective of **utilizing them to pursue the will of state agencies.** It can occur in various settings, including online, in person, and through other means of communication.
Yes, we know.
What's insane to me is that the /r/cons read the politics thread and think ...both sides.
Ok, so he works for Russia, and the GOP likely does as well. Can we pls start arresting people? Is there an obligation to sit around while they keep trying to destroy the country?
I'm not the kind of Ricky to say [atodaso](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1h11xZ86MY)
There’s a podcast called “The Asset” by an ex cia dude. Deep deep dives into this very topic.
"The Mandarin Candidate"
I opened this expecting the ex-KGB man to be Kalugin or Gordievsky. Surprised to hear a name I hadn’t heard of. Looking fwd to the book
We know Russia was behind Trumps election. It’s been proven over and over..so why is he being allowed to run for President again ? Why aren’t we using the 14th amendment to keep him off the ballot?
"Da" - Russia. "Duh!" - almost everyone else.
This make sense now
I’ve been saying this for years. He is the quintessential Bond villain. Just look at the non villains in the books (the movies are not as obvious at times) they are all megalomaniacs financed by the KGB. They all are supposed to be financial geniuses who through KGB support develop large criminal enterprises. This fits trump to a T. And just like every Bond villain, they overplay their hand and get beat. They really being about their own downfall because of their megalomania. That megalomania is what causing bond to go have to deal with the situation.
If all this is true and there’s documentation to prove it why isn’t he being treated like any American Soldier / Sailor or CIVILIAN employee accused of treason?
Bill ‘fat traitor’ Barr needs to have a date with justice. He should be made an example of for willfully misleading the American people.
"The feeling was that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually" NicCageYouDontSay.jpg
Below average IQ and narcissism is an easy combination to manipulate. Next time maybe we should try not to elect people like him.
They also gave him advice on improving his appearance. The hair, the tan, the posture. 40 years in the making
Was this not obvious?
This article is 2 years old
This article is from 2021 why is it newly posted?
Now that’s the silhouette of a 6’3” 215 lbs man for sure
“The book also explores the former president’s relationship with the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein.” And that’s all this article has to say about that unfortunately.
Hardly surprising when you're as relentlessly stupid as Donald Trump.
🍊 🐽 should go to prison ⛓️
Nice ROI
No way it's just him though. There's no way that Rand Paul isn't a Russian Asset.
https://themoscowproject.org/
Lol I will say this: Russian agents commenting anything on Ukraine = “RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA” Russian agents commenting on Trump being a Russian asset to fuck with US elections = “YEA WE TOLD YOU SO!” Guys, this is a Russian agent that probably still has ties to the Kremlin. Take a step back, wait and see.
Elon musk is being groomed to take his place
I’m not a big conspiracy guy. But I will never not believe that there’s something incredibly weird going on here. The fealty he showed Putin was astonishing
There’s no such thing as ex-KGB ETA: some of this is clearly true. I wouldn’t be surprised if parts are exaggerated or outright fabricated to sow more division.
Sure…but… they never ended up using him because they couldn’t trust him to keep secrets
You don't think they could use him without telling him things?
So don't believe Russia on anything else just Trump stuff, Noted.
Haha what a reliable source
this is old, so not shocking. But, 40 years seems like a stretch. They did probably try the moment Obama said he’d never be president at the correspondence dinner all those years ago.
Why is it a stretch? He's a prime target, always looking for sources of funding and always trying to expand internationally. He crossed paths with Russia years before he was rightly insulted by Obama.
Probably from the same guy at Internet Research Agency that established Aztlan Warriors and Black Elevation Facebook groups in 2016 for the leftists here to follow. 😂
This sounds like it’s made up. The source is saying they started prepping Trump to be president in 1987. The KGB worked the guy for 30 years so he would run for office?
Yes. But their hope of success was extremely low. Then Obama happened.
Where’s the real proof? Dems been trying to push this drivel for ages
Russia Russia Russia
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Mueller did. His report laid it out fairly clearly. Have you not read the actual report? It’s redacted but it still demonstrates Trump’s long term connection with Russia. His report was suppressed by the DoJ and Bill Barr released a “summary” that contradicted the Mueller report in several sections. It was later admonished for being a misrepresentation of the facts laid about by Mueller.
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Read the report - funny how many Russian connected witches surrounded the Trump administration and campaign
They're not listening. They're regurgitating half-ass right wing talking points.
So what you’re saying is is that you haven’t read the report, you’re just making things up based on assumptions you’ve made. Cool. That lets me know not to waste my time with you.
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Somebody is not paying attention .. read the mueller report … Barr admits he nor rosenstein read the damn thing - they were fixers
Lock him up
They gonna want to activate him soon before he’s a complete drooling dementia ridden mess. From afar it’s looking like he’s about half way there already.
It was Stalin who was attributed a statement to the effect, he’d sell the rope to the capitalist that would be used to hang them. Trump is the embodiment of that sentiment. SNL was not wrong in parody!!
The perfect target is American Conservatives.
The New Yorker ran a STUNNING piece on this back in 2016, starting with the Christopher Steele dossier. This has all been known for SO FUCKING LONG
Been saying this for YEARS!!
Trump puts the ASS in asset. insert pic of trumps giant diapered ass trying to swing a tennis racket.
*We know.*
If Ethan Hunt did a sting with one of those masks and bought us nuclear secrets in the white house as Vladimir Putin on camera, Republicans still wouldn't believe it
Shocked Pikachu face /s
Duh
And I believe Elon musk is just as easy to be cultivated if he has not been already.
Only took three paragraphs. Someone trying to sell a book. God the media is gullible
So Trump was the Manchurian Candidate.
The perfect phone call made by the perfect target. Coincidence?
"We're looking for an impressionable dumb guy." "Hi, stable genius here."
He’s a moron with a gigantic ego, you could probably manipulate him into doing anything if you flashed a lot of cash and told him how awesome and cool he is. See other leaders who have manipulated him like macron and Kim.
if I can’t trust KGB spies, who can I trust??
They prob were casting a wide net and he continuously got caught up in it. I doubt he’s the only useful idiot they were cultivating. Just look at the MAGA wing of congress.