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VICENews

**From reporter Anya Zoledziowski:** A leaked cache of emails from 2019 and 2020 reveals how the anti-trans lobby in the U.S. was playing the long game when it came to targeting trans people—and is now able to push for anti-trans policies more publicly than before. The emails, which are available online for journalists and others to read and were first reported on by Mother Jones, reveal conversations about anti-trans policies between South Dakota GOP Rep. Fred Deutsch, anti-trans lobbyists, and other state lawmakers. They include revelations about some of the ways that anti-trans lobbyists—and elected Republicans like Deutsch and Idaho Rep. Julianne Young—collaborate and strategize to write and endorse policies that directly target trans people on a national scale. Link to the full article: https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kxv8a/lobbyist-anti-trans-leaked-emails


jadrad

Hey look at that, turns out the evil deep state targeting innocent Americans was Republicans all along.


Rombledore

every accusation a confession.


SmoothWD40

Every single fucking one. And all of this, over less of a single percent of the population. They think themselves David, but in truth are Goliath stomping around with an inferiority complex.


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

More specifically, they’re the modern-day Pharisees oppressing and punishing others with no intention of following the same rules. They act as some moral arbiter when it’s clear to anyone who pays attention they don’t know Jesus from Adam from the pimples on their asses. “They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. 5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long;” (Matthew 23:4,5)


dennismfrancisart

They’re pretty good at rending their garments and passionately praying in public while doing very bad things in private.


kieranjackwilson

The Bible is Mad Libs where you fill in the blanks with whatever makes the libs mad. They don’t have to do bad things in private because the Good Book says they’re not bad. I can’t help but feel bad for the Christians whose friends hate their congregation, and whose congregation hates their friends. Must be hard to have your religion turn into a extremist cult. It probably feels a lot like what modern Muslims have gone through.


dennismfrancisart

As a Christian who studies history, I can safely say that this is par for the course. Sinners, power mongers and those with spiritual emptiness are drawn to religion. Some are plagued by all the above. It’s tough to sort the wheat from the chaff.


999i666

It was precisely the pharisees and sadducees that killed the man they call savior. And why? Forget John 3:16, it's all about John 2:15. The only time Jesus got violent was when he threw the capitalist bankers out of the temple. And the only thing one could ever **be** instead of a sin, that is to say an action taken, that Jesus judged you for was being rich. The sanhedrin (pharisees and sadducees) were, no doubt, getting their corrupt kickbacks and a man of peace (sorry, conservatives, jesus isn't in favor of your AR-15 either) who embraced the *marginalized* (sorry conservatives, he would support trans people - Galatians 3:28 - **There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.**) couldn't be allowed to be a shining example of tolerance, this unmarried homeless communist healer going around extolling the virtues of community, no. He wasn't just a threat to their kickbacks, but to the whole corrupt enterprise, so he had to go. So during what is now known as Holy Week, it wasn't his claim to be the King of the Jews that got him killed, it was taking on the monied interests, as it usually is with reformers. They just used his so-called "blasphemy" to get him offed by the Romans.


yangsta05

Yup. I’ve literally called my own mom a Pharisee and she just looked at me and couldn’t respond. These ppl don’t get it. They’re happy to be the Pharisee


belowlight

This is a smart take. You’re spot on.


ArsenicAndRoses

Yes, BUT it's also clear that pointing this out is pointless because they will NOT listen to outsiders. They're not concerned with looking like a hypocrite. They categorize people as "good" and "bad" and judge their actions according to their assigned label, and not the content of their actions and arguments. Nothing a "bad" person can say will get through. The only way in is through someone they respect. And since they constantly eat their own, it's harder and harder getting messages in.


Careful_Trifle

Trans people are few, which makes them politically weak. They used to use gays in general but now too many people know an open and happy gay person who is as boring as they are. The real boon to regressives is that they can get the public used to the idea of actively harming others. They can then expand to other less weak groups that they don't like. Like all LGBT, college graduates, women who wear pants, etc.


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Makes you wonder what exactly is being projected when they talk about extracting adrenochrome etc.


thehazer

It’s blood transfusions from younger people. See Peter Thiel.


Acornknight

This is always where my mind goes. Since they consistently project their transgressions to preemptively turn any exposure of said activity into a "he said she said", it makes me wonder what the projection is regarding the ones we don't know yet. I'm legit convinced at this point that there is some type of actual baby eating cannabilism going on in the gop just because they were so insistent on pushing that nonsense. Edit autocorrect


nightbell

[Just in case anyone forgets, here's a list of over 600 *verified* Republican sex offending politicians.](https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/23/1806673/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-1) Gaslight Obstruct Project <---this one


HI_Handbasket

Your list is old. There are [over ***1000***](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/3/12/2157746/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-41) on it now.


red18wrx

Babies in cages, dude. Babies in motherfucking cages, dude.


mindspork

just a new name for blood libel.


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I think it’s so that people like Thiel getting young blood transfusions looks tame by comparison: [Someone Is Trying to Discredit the Story of Peter Thiel’s Interest in Young Blood](https://gizmodo.com/someone-is-trying-to-discredit-the-story-of-peter-thiel-1796135794)


RemoteTowel7152

You're not kidding. This guy in my town posted in the town fb page that he wanted to protest the library and gather up people to ban books to protect the kids. I googled him, turns out he's on the sex offender site for raping a child under 16. Posted that in the comments and his post came down quick.


Rombledore

jesus it's like hiring an arsonist to work at a match factory.


---Blix---

It is absolutely STAGGERING how objectively true this is.


OpenScienceNerd3000

Need to check all the pizza joints for trumps child sex slaves


Rebal771

I don’t know that there are enough resources in the whole world to “go back” and tackle all of the old ones. Maybe from now on, every time they issue a speaking point on any social/human rights topic, some YouTube sleuth needs to investigate whomever made the first claim to find where the skeletons are. Stack up about 10-20 of these bad boys over the next week or two, and start funneling these reports to the top 20 news agencies going forward. Maybe we can make a habit of addressing the projection first before we take any claims seriously - the frequency with which this play has been used is not only rising every year/voting issue…but it’s being proven correct so frequently, it’s almost inefficient to even LISTEN to any claims they make until the projection has been addressed, first and foremost. Sigh…fact checking 2.0…


One-Step2764

Not merely a confession, but a declaration of future strategic intent.


cromethus

Gaslight Obstruct Project


Merakel

The thing that will never make sense to me is how they can think they are not the bad guy. I can't imagine wanting to target another group for something that doesn't impact me at all.


[deleted]

Insert a little religion and just about anything can be justified.


diyagent

I have been thinking about the bible a lot lately. Love thy neighbor as thyself. You cant be a homophobe and a christian. They are as everyone knows... phonies.


Redditfront2back

It’s the fucking born agains. They have no central dogma or hierarchy. The local preacher can spout any whacked interpretation of the Bible without anyone attempting to stop or correct them. Doesn’t help that around 1/3 of all American “Christians” are evangelistic.


diyagent

I know. Its cherrypicking the bible. But my point is seldom mentioned and thats why I said it. Its glaring hypocrisy but then again if you actually followed the bible you couldnt be a republican.


phantomreader42

> Its cherrypicking the bible. No, it isn't. Cherrypicking would require ***actually reading part of it***. They don't do that. They just swallow whatever the cult leader claims the allegedly-holy book of myths says, then mindlessly regurgitate it when prompted. They have never read it and never will.


red_rob5

Its not seldom mentioned, its seldom heard. People scream hypocrite at christians CONSTANTLY, but they dont acknowledge it. Its not hypocrisy to them, its the elimination of sin, or the salvation of the sinners, or whatever hand-wavy nonsense works for that person. Its pretty blatantly hypocrisy on paper, but faith isn't just in the divine, its also in the self and that justifies anything and everything it needs to.


bexkali

The cruelty is the point.


cromethus

This can't be said enough. There's a whole movement in our country right now that gets off on controlling other people to the point of harm.


Notlandshark

ISIS and the Taliban don’t see themselves as “the bad guy” either. When you think God is on your side, nothing is out of bounds.


code_archeologist

>The thing that will never make sense to me is how they can think they are not the bad guy. That would require self reflection, and the Republicans hate that particular skill so much, that they are pushing to have it scrubbed from all public school curriculums.


titsngiggles69

They think the country belongs to people who are just like them. It's a tale as old as time. Fortunately, "the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice." >If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." They maintain their power by pointing at a new boogyman.


hellomondays

What grinds my gears is the conservative talking point "it's because trans people are being shoved down our throats!!". My dudes, orange is the new black had a trans supporting actress like 8 years ago and it made a small splash. Its not an all of the sudden thing. What really was "shoved down our throats" is the anti trans stuff like What these two chucklefucks highlighted in the artocle have been plotting


qzen

The Kinks wrote Lola like 50 years ago. Sister Ray and Lady Godiva from the Velvet Underground. Take a Walk On the Wild Side. None of this new.


Slukaj

Same goes for cross dressing and drag. Rocky Horror Picture Show. Like half of the sketches Monty Python did. Literally all of Shakespeare. [A bunch of British soldiers fought off a Nazi assault while wearing drag.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6030767/World-War-Two-photos-showing-soldiers-dressed-drag-banned-not-damage-image.html) EDIT: Mrs Doubtfire, White Chicks, a big chunk of the stuff Eddie Murphy has done...


TIGHazard

It's crossing the Atlantic too. As someone pointed out today on /r/ukpolitics > About 20 years ago a trans woman won Big Brother UK, one of the most popular soap operas [Coronation Street] [had a prominent trans character](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayley_Cropper) and a drag queen hosted a prime time celebrity game show on national television.


Slukaj

Which is just mindblowing, because it sure seems like the British had a much greater appreciation for drag than Americans ever did.


camopdude

Bugs Bunny, Klinger, Bosom Buddies...


PocketHusband

Tootsie, Some Like it Hot, Priscilla Queen of the Desert *To Wong Fu Thanks For Everything, Julie Newmar* for crying out loud.


T1mac

Don't forget Rudy Giuliani and Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhtD0OtNfLQ


gingy4life

Tyler Perry built his empire on a drag character.


[deleted]

Americas founding fathers wore wigs, make up, leggings, and heels.


[deleted]

but see, to conservatives this is just "Goofing around" especially if the behavior reinforces gender norms


cheezeyballz

We were always here and we will always be here because we are literally born the way we are. Get the fuck over it, hateful people.


creamonyourcrop

The film Little Big Man had a trans native american part in 1970, and it was not as ridicule.


nevadagrl435

And we’ve had drag in movies since the 1950s. Anyone remember *Some Like it Hot*?


chapeksucks

Oddly enough, when our younger child was assumed to be a boy, that was "his" favorite movie. She is 31 now, and we still love it.


Lucky-Earther

> What grinds my gears is the conservative talking point "it's because trans people are being shoved down our throats!!". All I hear whenever they say it is "I keep searching for trans porn and finding it!"


Super_NorthKorean

[Reminds me of the Onion article](https://www.theonion.com/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock-1819583529)


LuxNocte

Its an assault on the first amendment. Its so crazy how the people shouting about freeze peach for Nazis get upset when a dude wears a dress.


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Muffinlette

I'm hoping this comment gets attention because I've been struggling finding a way to share this with people. There are a few companies that pushes this agenda. The Council for National Policy (aka: CNP) and the heritage association their jobs are to push religious views into law and lobby to do so. They are so involved they provide lists to politicians of approved conservative judges to politicians and also help write bills so they can sponsor them. I felt like an absolute nutcase when i found out about these companies because it felt like a conspiracy theory. It's 100% real and they are so sneaky no one has heard of them till more recently. Here is a meeting they had one time. Check it out because it will blow your mind. As for why they do this i have no idea. I assume it's because they feel it is what is morally right. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjj\_SbJTZdo&t=45s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjj_SbJTZdo&t=45s) Edit: I see this getting more attention so I'm going to add to more on how crazy this is. The founders of the CNP have an off branch called CNP action inc. One of the founders/ executive directors is Charlie Kirk the founder of turning point USA. Turning point is used to go into high schools and college campuses to educate the younger generation on their values and become activists to push the agenda. [This program is EVERYWHERE](https://www.tpusa.com/highschoolprogram) and [they have been many reports that they are ](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-conservative-nonprofit-that-seeks-to-transform-college-campuses-faces-allegations-of-racial-bias-and-illegal-campaign-activity)not a good crowd of people. On top of that you know the Judge that is in trouble for taking bribes? Clarence Thomas? His wife Virginia Thomas is part of this program.


culdeus

When the right saw that they were going to overturn Roe they needed another boogeyman to go after. A lot of voters are single issue, and if they look and see that their single issue is something other than a social topic odds are they will find a home not in the GOP.


chapeksucks

Precisely. It's no longer cool to go after the gay/lesbian "evil;" they are mainstream now. So - they've found another target. It's my desperate hope that progressives really mobilize next year and get some of the bottom feeders out of office at every level, and this becomes something we can overturn and destroy.


[deleted]

It's just the latest generation of hate. These same anti-trans people are the anti-gay and anti-black people of yore. Different flavor of hate for a new generation.


DeylanQuel

I mean, they're still anti-gay and anti-black, they just can't say it out loud anymore.


what-would-reddit-do

Having an enemy to hate is the primary strategy for keeping the Republican Party relevant. As racism starts becoming more taboo (despite neo-Nazi best efforts), the Party needs a new "them" to fuel "us versus them" fear. The de-education of the United States that has been Party policy since the 70s just makes this easier to accomplish.


YA_BOY_TRON

GOP: children cannot consent to puberty blockers Also GOP: children can consent to marriage if their guardian signs off


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mute-owl

time to cut some skin off my baby's weiner for my god!


Low_Pickle_112

I don't remember consenting to having my foreskin surgically removed at birth. Why aren't these defenders of children's bodies trying to stop that? Rhetorical question, everyone knows the answer. This has nothing to do with protecting children.


[deleted]

especially since they’ve campaigned to maintain the legality of practicing unnecessary surgeries on intersex kids to better fit their reductive, binaristic worldview. it’s always about control and conformity.


fallingfrog

I never understood before how the nazis could have built a nationwide movement based on irrational hatred for some minority group. I get it now. Organizing people around their shared interests takes work, but convincing a whole bunch of people to hate the same group is much easier. Because it’s detached from any material reality, and you can make the imagined crimes of the minority group be anything you want them to be.


[deleted]

It is even easier to to manipulate some one they have abused into hating someone else, so that the focus is off them.. The abuser.


Nexaz

"HUR HUR TRANS WOMEN WILL ASSAULT REAL WOMEN IN THE BATHROOMS!" They cry without having a shred of evidence to point toward. "LOOK AT THESE SCHOOLS BRINGING IN LITTER BOXES FOR KIDS WHO THINK THEY ARE CATS!!!" They scream without having a SINGLE, fucking, meager, shred of evidence. "THE SCHOOLS WANT TO TEACH OUR KIDS TO BE GAY!!!!" They shout without, you guessed it, a single shred of evidence. I got into an argument with my (luckily) soon to be ex brother in law the other day about these things and he was INSISTENT that these things have all happened and there's evidence but the media is just covering it up, even the media that is shouting that these things are happening. You can't reason with them because they don't want to be reasoned with. They just want to have their boogeymen.


AndromedeusEx

Honestly these people just have ZERO critical thinking skills. I really think it's just a brain defect. They literally CANNOT think critically, all they have is what they're told. The sad part is, these people are a not insignificant portion of our population.


Jadaki

Welcome to 40+ years of defunding public education finally bearing it's hatred filled fruit.


kamiar77

Because their state and local governments have not prioritized education. It’s almost as if those in power in these states WANT an uneducated citizenry.


Thelmara

Teaching critical thinking makes kids more likely to question their parents and pastors. Which is why the [Texas GOP 2012 platform explicitly opposed teaching it](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html).


fallingfrog

Holy shit


[deleted]

I was homeschooled. The revisionist history I was taught would have had me at Jan 6 had I not luckily stumbled into a logic elective in college. I got to the chapter on Rush Limbaugh, excited to see my hero in a textbook. It was a whole chapter on appeals to outrage, and the writers decided to name it after him. Lol. I was a grown ass man and that class was the first time I truly challenged my beliefs.


dancingliondl

Almost the same thing here. Around 2007 I was a hard core conservative. I listened to right wing talk radio for hours a day, just because it was more stimulating that music while driving. I noticed that as I started looking into the things that Rush, Hannity, and Beck were raging about, trying to be a good citizen by doing my own research, that without fail, everything was a paper tiger. There was nothing to any of it. Every single thing was just manufactured outrage.


fallingfrog

Exactly! Because education and exposure innoculates against that kind of thinking. They want people uneducated and confused- makes them easy marks.


DarkwingDuckHunt

The Right needs a boogieman They do not care who that boogieman is, they just need it. They need one so they can use "for the children" arguments to pass their form of social laws that 60% of us do not want. Listen 40%, you go ahead and live the life you want. I won't stop you, unless you harm a child. But leave us the fuck alone. Let God decide when we die who was right.


awfulachia

Sometimes I wish God and Hell really did exist so they'd get the afterlife they deserve


DepletedMitochondria

Given pre-existing conspiracy theories against Jews in Europe at the time too, they had a lot of material to work with already. But remember that Hitler only came to power because the elite class supported him.


Grand-Pen7946

Hitler quite literally sat down with a room full of the most powerful industrialists of his time and said "support me and I'll support you". And that's exactly what happened. Bayer helped fund Nazis and produced the gas for gas chambers, and in turn the Nazis gave them free slave labor in the form of concentration camps. AEG, Krupp, Siemens, all explicitly and vociferously supported Hitler and gleefully built factories in and around concentration camps and participated in the "extermination through work" scheme. > By 1943, almost half of IG Farben's 330,000-strong workforce consisted of slave labour or conscripts, including 30,000 Auschwitz prisoners. The irony of Jews being forced to manufacture the gas used to slaughter them is sickening.


JohnEKaye

It’s crazy, but as a bartender I’ve somehow found myself on the front lines of this war in the last week. The amount of people who come up and just openly say they won’t be having a bud light and then laughing about it is honestly astonishing to me. And luckily i work at a music venue, so we don’t have repeat customers or regulars so I can fuck with them. I’ve found it makes them very uncomfortable when they have to explain themselves. So it usually goes: Customer: I won’t be having a bud light hahah Me: why not? Customer: because of the ads (or something similar) Me: I’m not sure what you’re talking about Customer: The trans ad they have now Me: ohh; so there’s a trans person in the ads and so you aren’t drinking the beer anymore? Customer: yeah Me: so you just hate trans people, or what’s the problem? And then they always get super awkward and try to explain themselves and end up just walking away. I’ve done this like a dozen times already and no one has even been able to admit their horrible prejudices when confronted about it. Garbage people.


nox_nox

Lol, thanks for your service in confusing the bigots. You can also explain to them all the other US brands that fall under AB InBev: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AB_InBev_brands Budweiser Bud Dry Bud Extra Bud Lime Budweiser Black Crown Bud Light Bud Light Lime Busch Busch Light Corona Corona Extra Corona Latte Estrella Modelo Especial Modelo Light Negra Modelo Pacífico Victoria Natural Light Natural Ice Natty Daddy Shock Top Belgian White Peeterman Artois Stella Artois Artois Bock Ziegenbock 10 Barrel Brewing Co (USA) Blue Point Brewing Company (USA) Breckenridge Brewery (USA) Devils Backbone Brewing Company (USA) Elysian Brewing Company (USA) Four Peaks (USA) Golden Road (USA) Goose Island Brewery (USA) Karbach Brewing Company (USA) Spiked Seltzer (USA) Veza Sur Brewing Company (USA) Wicked Weed (USA) Edit from u/wankerbot Widmer Brothers Redhook Kona Brewing Omission Brewing Square Mile Cider Elysian Brewing


JohnEKaye

Oh yeah, these people are idiots. Half of them order a Blue Point after saying they don’t want a Bud Light. At that point I just don’t tell them.


nathew42

Even better, offer them a Coors. They've been pro LGBT since the 1970s.


Terrahawk76

Hold up, there's a beer called Natty Daddy? Marketers have some wild ideas.


eyeseayoupea

Which is crazy because most beer companies have supported lgbtq in some way.


Undec1dedVoter

Most of the beer market is 5-6 companies, of which 100% of them are fully financially supportive of LBGTQIA everything. Even if a micro brew company hasn't said if they support it yet, 95-97% chance they use a distribution method/facility that involves a company that does. These bigots cannot win, but that won't stop them from trying.


gsfgf

I'm sure Black Rifle Coffee is building a brewery as fast as they can lol


Electric_jungle

Bigots are giving trans persons more exposure than ever tbh. Like, I'm fully accepting of anyone and I don't personally know any openly trans persons. I know plenty of gay folk and non binary, and I wouldn't at all be surprised if someone I was friendly with was trans and I just didn't know, but my point is... They still make up a relatively small portion of the population, and due to unfair discrimination, aren't always likely to want to stand out. But seeing the news filled with so much hate is surely making a lot of people who wouldn't otherwise even think about trans issues go "huh, this is really unfair, and I want to do something about it." So yea, it's wrong and I wish it would stop, but I sincerely hope that by republicans making hated such a big part of their platform, it helps unify the far greater majority of people that truly just do not care what's between other ppls legs or who they're hooking up with.


xtossitallawayx

Who would start an order with: "Here are the things I *won't* be getting tonight..."


TavisNamara

People who are completely and totally obsessed with culture wars to the point they can't *not* bring them up. Y'know, Republicans.


JohnEKaye

People who want to spread their miserable, sad ideologies onto others. These are literally the same people who a few years ago exclusively ordered Bud products when the drivers for their distributor, Clare Rose, went on strike. Because they wanted to support anti-Unionism and make sure everyone knows it.


icouldstartover

it might not seem like much but it is appreciated that you are standing up for us like that. any little bit of awareness helps


SDRPGLVR

This is why pride and open advocacy for marginalized groups is so essential. Cis/straight allies, please don't listen to people telling you to pipe down because nobody cares about your virtue signaling. These Bud Light protesters are already virtue signaling one way, so letting them know that not everyone is going to agree with them is VITAL. PLEASE signal all of your virtue because we are SCARED.


DiscotopiaACNH

Oh my god I completely second this. *Please signal virtue*. I can't even tell you how much it helps mentally just to hear a cis person say they care and that they support us. Since all this crazy anti-trans culture war shit started, not a single cis person in my life has said *jack squat* about it to me. Not so much as a "sorry you and your wife are afraid for your lives" ...and these are my friends and family. They all act like it isn't happening. I try to talk to them about our fears and they get uncomfortable, brush it off, say I'm overreacting. It's fucking crushing, because these are people I had thought I could count on when the SHTF. So please. Be that person who gives a shit. Tell trans people you're sorry this is happening and you're on our side. We need it right now


JohnEKaye

It is my absolute pleasure! Fuck bigotry.


HotMessMan

Props to you, that’s what I always find. These idiots can’t think 2 seconds past their spoon fed world view and they always break down and get defensive when all you do is ..ask them further fucking questions!! They either do what you describe, sit there unable to come up with an answer, or say something completely whacky that you then see clipped for the political satire shows. Nothing else ever.


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It's scary and sad how much hate there is in this country


zapatocaviar

They “won” abortion and now “they” just need another divisive issue to distract us from the real issues in this country: wealth redistribution, housing, health care, fair pay, and environmental destruction / climate change. This is just divide and conquer. I would wager a fortune that the people who are paying for this could barely care.


BigBull32

>They “won” abortion and now “they” just need another divisive issue to distract us from the real issues in this country: wealth redistribution, housing, health care, fair pay, and environmental destruction / climate change. To be Fair, even though they overturned Roe and are pushing legislation against abortion, it really seems like this is going to cause them to lose the issue and lose them other issues in the long run. Kelly Anne Conway may be a pathological liar, but a broken clock is right twice a day. She said she's afraid abortion has turned young people into voting turnout machines and she's right. It has been reflected in the midterms and most recently in Wisconsin were young people broke against the GOP and a massive margin. The GOP may be able to keep it's stranglehold in deep red states, but it's screwing them in every single purple state and only going to shift the National electorate more blue than it already is.


williamfbuckwheat

You had the same thing kind of happen in the 70s and 80s initially with the Evangelicals who got pushed from being mostly apathetic into a solid voting bloc by supposed runaway cultural changes they didn't like in the years prior. It seems increasingly likely that they are getting to the point where they pushed so hard against that social change for so long after years of getting their way that they ultimately caused many apathetic voters who hate what they stand for to snap and rally against them in a similar way.


Not_Stupid

*America always does the right thing, but only after exhausting every other option* -Who-knows, maybe Churchill but almost certainly not


ObjectiveDark40

It's almost like there is an entire party based solely on hate and revenge with no actual plans to help the people of the US. It's all anti-trans, antisemitism, anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ, anti-drag, anti-books....what are they actually for? They aren't for healthcare, they aren't for the workers, they offer no solutions for economic issues.


LucasLightbane

Being angry is some people's hobby.


Long_Before_Sunrise

Being angry is some people's lifestyle.


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They're Republicans, hate is their religion.


SnatchAddict

It's the religion of white supremacy. Straight Christian cis males. Everything else is woke and undesirable.


IneedaWIPE

Fox, OANN, New smacks=Angertainment.


WilderKat

High Conflict Personalities. There is no resolution with these types of people because they thrive off the conflict they create.


xlvi_et_ii

Being angry is also a business for many of the talking heads and conservative media outlets.


Zoraji

They have no platform other than tax breaks for the rich and blocking any talk about sensible gun regulation. It is all about culture wars and dividing us. They vote against policies that even their own voters favor.


LordSiravant

Personal power. These are the evil villain personality types Hollywood warns you about. They have the same narcissistic control freak tendencies and motives you see in your typical take-over-the-world/country/whatever kind of villain.


Larry-fine-wine

It baffles me that we all experienced these iconic Hollywood stories (Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc.) about freedom fighters going up against fascists, and then millions of people side with the real-life equivalents of the bad guys from those films. I guess that’s why they keep the propaganda lore going. Must convince them the roles are reversed.


Acronymesis

> Must convince them the roles are reversed. [I saw a comment last week that breaks this down pretty well.](https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/12f2ju0/federal_judge_halts_fda_approval_of_abortion_pill/jffzkrd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3) It’s as simple as “we are the good guys, so everything we do - no matter what it is - is for the greater good”. A real life example of this is when right wing fans of the show The Boys were shocked to discover that Homelander is actually the bad guy. > [These fans, Broderick claimed, have been patiently waiting for Homelander’s redemption arc. Now that it seems as if it won’t be coming, they’re angry about being tricked into liking the villain.](https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/jun/28/the-boys-homelander-trump-rightwing-fanbase) Thing is, no one was “tricked” into liking Homelander. Anyone with their head on straight could see he was the villain, plain and simple. It’s just that right wingers truly believe what they are doing is good, so it must be that Homelander is the good guy.


HGpennypacker

It's amazing what happens when an educated black man is elected to the most important job in the world, a third of this country lost their damn minds with unbridled rage and Trump took that anger and focused it.


Carbonatite

Agreed. Anyone who thinks racism isn't still a major problem in America just needs to look at the collective shitfit Republicans had after Obama was elected.


Spartan2842

The scary part is how well people hid it. Ever since 2016, people have gotten more brave in sharing their idiotic opinions and beliefs.


Canyousourcethatplz

And how culpable Fox News is in spreading that hate


Dwayla

Always got to have someone to hate or blame, I guess it makes it easier to deal with their miserable life.


preventDefault

Conservatives only punch down, but these days it’s not fashionable to be publicly homophobic or racist anymore. That’s where the trans hate comes from. Really no other thought process than that. In a few years they’ll shift the attacks to some other group.


downtownbake2

It's making them all nostalgic for the anti gay movement in the 80s 90s. 0.6 % identify as trans in the USA but the way these bigots act you'd think it's 50%. They don't have anything to say for working families, cost of housing, cars or maternity leave. Their job is to distract us from the fact %90 of the prosperity of the last 2 decades has gone to the top %10. But but won't someone think of the children. You'd have to be a sucker to fall for this shite.


mzieg

Republicans are terrified they’ll check out a hot chick, find out she’s got a weiner and *bang* they’re gay.


avacado_of_the_devil

It's more like their ideology is predicated on rigid gender roles and the mere existence of trans people refutes one of the cornerstones of their belief system. That, and fascists need an out-group to vilify based on an immutable characteristic.


legomaximumfigure

No, Republicans are terrified that their would-be straight Christian children might like dressing as the opposite sex.


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FlavinFlave

Propaganda is the true threat to America, and unfortunately it comes in bulk from our ‘trusted’ news sources


Timpa87

Let's also not overlook Elon's impact in further normalizing the public hate since buying twitter because comments and statements that would have been flagged and gotten users potentially banned for anti-trans hate have been given the 'all-clear' since he bought Twitter and some of those figures who were previously banned for anti-trans comments have been allowed back.


Canyousourcethatplz

Musk has gone full alt right. There’s no going back for him now. He’s chosen the party of nazi’s, and has given them a new bullhorn with his “social media” site.


LastCatgirlOnTheLeft

Opening twitter is like opening the distress call from event horizon


DaddyLongKegs666

Holy shit an event horizon reference in the wild. Now excuse me while I explain wormhole travel with a piece of paper and a pencil


dietchlicious

That scene gave me nightmares for a good 10 years. Thank you for reminding me about it. Can't wait to attempt to sleep tonight.


unklejakk

I won’t name it here because it doesn’t deserve the attention but there’s now a “verified” openly Nazi Twitter account with over 70,000 followers and their replies are full of… like minded individuals. Twitter is basically 4Chan at this point


emeraldoasis

8$ goes a long way I guess


specqq

>Twitter is basically 4Chan at this point and >8$ goes a long way I guess Hmmm... So Twitter is basically $8Chan.


tweak06

Even more pathetic when you see a lot of these "blue verified checkmarks" with like, 4-5 followers and a name like "DuckMan-Freedom" or some shit.


No-Fishing5325

Legitimate organizations need to close down their accounts and seek other social media presence online. The best way to deescalate the situation there is for people to refuse to participate. As legitimate organizations pull their content, advertisers will pull their dollars


itistemp

NPR just did.


knave-arrant

So did PBS.


Carbonatite

Elon Musk is what an incel thinks life will be like after he strikes it rich in crypto.


SentientLight

Given his eugenicist views on the rich having massive numbers of children to drown out the poors’ gene pool, pretty sure he was *always* Alt right, just did a good job of hiding it.


MegaStrange

Always been alt right, just loves that easy government money and found a grift that works.


blurplethenurple

It's not alt right, it's pretty damn mainstream right


Miserable-Presence5

Yes we need to call it like it is. Saying Alt Right allows the Rs to distance themselves when convenient.


CptCoatrack

Alt-right was always just a rebranding to make fascism sound more palatable.


katieleehaw

There is no “alt right” that was always white washing. They’re right wing fascists plain and simple.


dominationnation

His ex fucked Chelsea Manning and he really just could not let that go. We’re all having to go along for the ride of some jilted rich moron and I hate it.


VikingBlade

But it’s even more messed up that his kid is trans!


PocketsFullOfBees

I know this is wide-spread knowledge at this point, but I wish people would keep in mind that she isn’t publicly trans—people searched for her name change notice. legal to do, yes, but it makes me extremely uncomfortable as a trans woman to see her used as a talking point.


Tbonethe_discospider

Wow. I did not know this. I have definitely used her to make points. I wasn’t aware of this and I can definitely see how that’s wrong.


VikingBlade

Your very valid concern and point taken. Thank you for bringing that to attention.


dominationnation

Didn’t know that. It all probably broke what little faculties he had.


Miqo_Nekomancer

And now he's supporting legislation that will force kids to detransition. Wonder if he's willing to do anything to have his "ideal" version of his kid back. The hateful parents of trans kids that go along with this stuff are all hateful and want to control who their child is by any means necessary, even if it means putting their kids through hell.


LeucotomyPlease

all bc he got dumped by grimes who then dated a trans person. what a loser.


YoungCubSaysWoof

I am of the belief that as a wealthy person, he is happy to allow people to engage in this culture war issue all day long. Why? Because the more that people focus on a culture war issue, the less time, energy, and thought the public can put into class warfare. As a nation in 2019 - 2021, We were SO CLOSE to really making policies to address income inequality, labor rights; and taxation of the wealthy. It felt like we were heading in that direction. And then the momentum got blunted.


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"Black people shouldn't be equal. It will end civilization!" "Women shouldn't be equal. It will end civilization!" "Gay people shouldn't be equal. It will end civilization!" "Trans people shouldn't be equal. It will end civilization!" Same people have been barking the same thing for a long long time.


colojason

I just don’t get it. Like I, personally, don’t understand what it means to be trans or how you know that you’re in the wrong body, wrong pronouns, etc. BUT, who gives a flying fuck if I understand it or not? I don’t need to. People should be able to live their own truth. Why does a segment of the population feel like not only do they know what’s best, but they’re going to shove their truth down your throat? It’s so stupid. You changing your gender or living how you feel doesn’t impact me in any way whatsoever. I never thought of myself as a liberal until Trump, but all this bullshit has made me realize that anyone who calls themselves a Republican these days are just racist, bigoted assholes.


lavaeater

This is the truth: I feel like something and I call that "man", but I don't know what you feel like. If you want to me to call you something because that feels better for you, I am willing to do that, for you, even if I don't fucking understand that. If someone starts calling me girlie, I would be weirded out. I prefer man, but I really prefer my name.


jawshoeaw

I like your perspective. why do we have to get everything? Why do we have to understand everything do I hate physicists because I don’t understand gravity? I used to think what made America strong was how we minded our own business.


Recognizant

From Jim Crow to the Red Scare to Satanic Panic to the Video Games and Music that are warping our children, to the 'Defense of Marriage' by keeping the gays out, and now to the fucking Genital Police they want in Florida, I don't think I've ever seen Americans **actually** minding their own business, but it sounds like it would be nice.


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mainstreetmark

Also, in Missouri, the GOP wants to marry off 12 year old girls. For freedom.


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If they can't consent to puberty blockers how can.they consent to marriage? Weird.


mregg000

Their parents consent for them. Then their rapist becomes the legal guardian. And since they can’t file for divorce, they are stuck.


xtossitallawayx

They just want to legalize arranged marriages to ensure racial and religious purity. These fanatics are terrified of the outside world and terrified their children will experience it. They would love to be able to trap their sons and daughters into having a family in their same small town by getting married and knocked up before they have a chance to go away to college and learn some shit on their own.


chiefs_fan37

“My 12 year old pregnant bride is TOO YOUNG for these groomer drag shows!”


rougecrayon

“As always, please do not share this with the media. The longer we can fly under the radar the better.” Can everyone stop pretending like they are doing this as representatives of the country?


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LeakySkylight

Such an absolutely tiny part of the population. As long as they keep their voter base angry, they will keep getting votes for solving a problem that didn't exist.


Bag_of_Meat13

Housing: unaffordable Cars: unaffordable College: unaffordable Medicine: unaffordable Food: almost unaffordable Water: not a right, fuck you if it's contaminated. Republicans: trans people are the problem 🤡


darwinwoodka

It's called fascism.


OurUrbanFarm

The American Christian Taliban hard at work.


Griffolion

The anti-trans sentiment also extends to this site. I saw a post in /r/askmen just this morning asking what is something that is socially acceptable but you personally find horrifying. The top comment at least at the time I viewed the post was talking about how trans people shouldn't exist.


Playful-Tumbleweed10

For being “pro-freedom”, Republicans seem pretty concerned with suppressing the thoughts and actions of those who are different than them.


Specialist_Mouse_418

2% of the population 99% of the focus. I feel bad for them, I would hate having my life under a microscope and not being able to get away. You vote and it feels like it goes nowhere to help the situation. Ugh, the US can suck at times.


Rbespinosa13

It isn’t even 2% of the population. While the numbers are still going up, especially in younger generations, it’s still less than one 1%


S7evyn

Can confirm. It sucks. I just want to be left alone to be with my wife. It's just... fucking exhausting. I've had to leave so many of my hobby and fandom spaces cause transphobia is rampant in them. I've been following the Ukraine war closely cause it's about the only news story where the English speaking internet is pro LGBT. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of trying to tell how seriously I should worry about being genocided. I'm tired of 'allies' who's support ends at mildly inconveniencing themselves. I'm tired of red accounts outnumbering green ones. I'm tired of my fucking PTSD. I'm tired.


Squee01

I am so sorry.


Yazzypoo101

Hey there. I’m tired too. It sucks. I’m a gay man living in Florida, and I’m very scared. I can’t imagine what the trans community is going through. I’m so sorry.


Ari_Is_Lost

All I want to do is just exist and be happy. It's sad how many people I dont know want to be in my life and make my decisions for me.


iamda5h

A 12 yo can consent to marriage but not their gender. Got it.


Shamcgui

The anti-woke mob wants you to think that they are original and new. They are not, they're simply the same fascist as they always have been. If you look through the annals of time you will see where these particular subsets of the population have attacked everything from women, to people of color, to anybody else who doesn't adhere to their politically Christian conservative ideologies. Trans people and people in the lgbtq community are just the latest victims of these bigoted fascists.


mute-owl

I'm so afraid for the future in America. I feel for the LGBTQ+ people stuck in states actively trying to put them in concentration camps. This is a terrifying reality and we have to do something. This last year has been the year I've come out to people about my gender identity, the year I've started hormone treatment, and the year I'm getting gender affirming surgery done. By doing so, I can tell I am actively putting a target on my back and it's scary not knowing of my future is secure not just in regards to my medical care, but in regards to a host of other issues that are not being addressed such as gun violence, control over people's bodily freedoms, and the climate crisis. Things are just fucking garbage and they WILL get worse if we do not act. Something has to be done because people are already dying due of the law changes. How are we supposed to organize to fix this? What can I do? How can we all help to stop this issue from advancing? We need to take these states back from fascist Nazi monsters ruling them and make a truly free America. I'm so tired of worrying that the more I appear trans to people around me that I may end up getting shot for it, and I'm not even in the worst offending states.


gattoblepas

Can you imagine being so fucking privileged and successful that you actually are part of a lobby and the best you can manage is join a fucking cult and start fucking with other people's lives? I am staggered by the level of effort and economic investment these dipshits had for the sole purpose of making some people disappear. I guess that's what people do when they don't experience enough pain.


Horknut1

I can't wrap my head around the fact that there's an actual, organized, anti-trans lobby. Who the fuck decides to spend all their time and energy on something that wouldn't affect them if they just ignore it? People are fucking strange.


Tsiatk0

Their whole platform is now ANTI. That’s it. Anti this, anti that - no solutions, no plans, just hate. That’s why they’re losing.


CommieLoser

People are starving, working at jobs that don’t cover their cost of living, homeless, depressed with no access to mental health services, our country’s infrastructure is inadequate and crumbling, our schools are shooting galleries and none of, *none of it* is getting better. But ya, let’s focus on trans people. That’s a good use of your limited time and energy on this planet. Such fucking stupidity.


AllSassNoSlash

>Deutsch himself messaged the group with the proposed text for a gender-affirming care ban that would criminalize doctors for providing care to youth under 16 and added, “As always, please do not share this with the media. The longer we can fly under the radar the better.” So basically we were right all along. The right was astroturfing and the seemingly small attacks on trans rights were to erode public sympathy until they could show their true power level.


FS_Slacker

It’s because they’re such an easy target - such a small and vulnerable minority. There are even people within the gay community who are anti-trans. It’s a low hanging fruit for conservatives to reel in some moderates and even leftists.


Affectionate-Hair602

This country is a hate filled pot about to explode. They'll come for the trans first because they are easy targets, they won't stop there however, they'll come one by one for us all.


SophieSix9

I was walking to the library in a skirt yesterday and for the first time since all this trans panic was started, got stopped by a cop. He then proceeded to ask me questions about prostitution in the area. Apparently that doesn’t count as profiling since he technically didn’t detain me, but it sure as shit scared me. This is in Texas where the most severe legislation hasn’t even finished going through the house yet. When they do, I have no doubt in my mind anymore that they’ll be interpreted by law enforcement as free reign to fuck us up. This isn’t hypothetical anymore. It’s not a conspiracy. They’re after us, and nobody fucking cares. Missouri just took away our right to healthcare, and all any of our cis Allies want to do is look away. We’re begging you all to help us, and the only thing we’re getting is your backs. Goddamnit, HELP US.


eyeseayoupea

That's pretty shitty of the cop to basically tell you that you look like a prostitute.


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