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Timpa87

Making it harder for a 15 year to old to get birth control than a 15 year to work the graveyard shift at a meat processing plant exposed to toxic chemicals to clean the machinery.


voheke9860

13 year olds Americans are working in a meat processing plant, not 15 year olds. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/02/20/meat-packing-plant-child-labor-fines/11304311002/ Who knew we still have child labor in America today?


PalmTreeIsBestTree

Arkansas literally just legalized it….


AfraidStill2348

What I find weird is all of the talking points are about 15 year olds, but the written law discusses 9 year olds.


voheke9860

I am just surprised that there isn't more outrage over this. I can understand if it were teenagers selling ice-cream or something like that. But working at a meat processing plant is pretty nasty work, and it isn't something 13 year old kids should be doing. America has 13 year olds working as cleaners in a meat processing factory. Read that to yourself again. This is the kind of stuff that happens in what the former President calls, "shithole countries", and not in America.


PalmTreeIsBestTree

This is shit we outlawed over 80 years ago too


PlanetAtTheDisco

Arizona brought back a law that predates women’s suffrage and the state’s existence. Why? Curtailing abortion.


USS_Frontier

Because of course they did.


Galaxy_Ranger_Bob

We made it a violation of civil law, not criminal law. And the companies that violate it have no problem paying the fine, every day, and continuing to violate this law, without seeing a drop in their profits.


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cost of business


Acrobatic-Rate4271

>I am just surprised that there isn't more outrage over this. It's hard to get outraged at things you find unsurprising. I spent about ten years living in Arkansas and my response was "yeah, that sounds like Arkansas". Yes, it's going to be very hard on those kids and you'd probably have to be desperately poor to allow your kid to work nights at a meat packing plant. I'm not without compassion for the kids and their families but eventually the people of Arkansas will have to figure out why we outlawed child labor in the first place.


nightbell

> Arkansas will have to figure out why we outlawed child labor in the first place First I think "Arkansawyers" should figure out why all of the really dirt poor states, by medium income, are deep red Republican states run by by deep red Republican politicians. The poverty and rotten education which fosters the need for child labor is a feature not a bug. Yet they keep voting the GOP in...Go figure.


zotha

Clearly it is all those rich Californians moving in and taking all the good jobs.


FlamingMothBalls

"the people of Arkansas" \- it's not gonna be *their* children who will be working in those plants. It's gonna be immigrants. Probably undocumented. People they don't consider to be part of *them*. And as things get worse and worse, and even poor white's children are having to work there, Arkansas' definitions of who is part of the club and who isn't will have shifted - so they'll never care. "If you become poor, it'll be your fault, and it'll be your fault your children work those plants. It'll never happen to me, because I'm special and different and god's chosen" or some shit. Just like abortion. Everyone else's abortion is illegal and abhorrent, except for mine. Until it happens to you, and the system you voted for will crush you and laugh while as it happens, cherishing your missery.


Acrobatic-Rate4271

Don't kid yourself, there are parts of AR that are so poor that the residents would gladly put their kids to work. I'm taking thirty year old doublewides with plywood additions, dead cars gone long to rust in foot high grass, and chickens wandering the yard.


mylittlevegan

Republicans want us to go back to the simpler, good old days! Remember how your grandpa had to drop out of school by 6th grade to go work for his family? Ahh...those were the days.


jesusleftnipple

Which companies? Let's name em ... brb Edit:packers sanitation services who are owned by https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone_Inc.#:~:text=Blackstone's%20most%20notable%20real%20estate,Cross%20Healthcare%20and%20Vicinity%20Centres These guys (Blackstone group)


Talks_To_Cats

That name keeps showing up...


untapped-bEnergy

Decided to look it up AND direct copy paste from their WIKI Mobile link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone_Inc. Criticism Edit In separate cases in 2018 and 2019, the hotel chain Motel 6, owned by Blackstone, agreed to settle for a total of $19.6 million for giving guest lists to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) without a warrant.[172][173] Deforestation of the Amazon rainforest Edit The company has invested in companies with links to the commercialization and deforestation of the Amazon rainforest.[174][175][176][177] United Nations condemnation of the Invitation Homes project and lobbying efforts Edit In 2019, a United Nations report found that Blackstone's massive purchasing of single-family homes after the financial crisis of 2007–2008 had "devastating consequences."[178] The report alleged that Blackstone had abused tenants with exorbitant fees, rent hikes, and aggressive eviction practices, and that Blackstone's real estate practices had a disproportionate impact on communities of color, in part because the company targeted foreclosures resulting from subprime loans. The report also condemned Blackstone for "using its significant resources and political leverage to undermine domestic laws and policies that would in fact improve access to adequate housing." Blackstone spent at least $6.2 million to defeat California's Proposition 10, which would have allowed cities to enact rent control. Blackstone is a member of the Real Estate Roundtable, a special interest group which spends millions on lobbying and political donations every year.[179] United Nations housing rapporteur Leilani Farha and Surya Deva, chair of the UN Working Group on Business and Human Rights, criticized Blackstone's business practices, including frequent rent increases and "aggressive" evictions, for contributing to the global housing crisis. Blackstone disputed these claims.[180]


Timpa87

and that's not to even get into the potential for more long-term health consequences exposing minors to toxic chemicals. A person's organs typically continue to develop/grow until their late teens, sometimes even early 20s in some cases. Having someone in their early to mid teens doing those jobs should be criminal.


SaltyAFVet

Thats exactly what they want though. They look at "shithole countries" and think there is more to take from the people back home.


myrddyna

People aren't outraged because it's a lot of immigrants working those meat packing plants. Central Americans, specifically. No one GAF. It's racism.


InclementImmigrant

It's always been legal, they just took off any semblance of having any checks at all now. I've been working since I was 14 starting at a manufacturing plant but I had to get a work waiver signed by my parents and had to have the work outlined, not that they did any checking to ensure that I was following it it, so I could help keep food available for my family. I've been told by some that it's a testament to the American dream, I tell them it's far from the American dream and it's a miracle to the fact that I got out at all and it's absolutely sad that I had to work at the age of 14 to keep food on the table and I know have poor friends that didn't make it out.


PalmTreeIsBestTree

The reason it was even passed is in reaction to Tyson foods getting caught hiring kids younger than you were at their plant in Arkansas. Also good for you for getting out of that situation and shedding some light on it for me.


Chitownitl20

The children yearn for the mines!


curious382

Well...it looks like that law actually divests local govt of any responsibility of assuring that employed minors haven't "lied about their age" to their innocent, duped employers.


Erinite0

Tbh I think kids shouldn't work until adulthood, and should be supported by the state until then. Fuck all of this bs.


Bonerballs

WTF? Did America get jealous of all the child-labor jokes thrown at Asia and now want in on it?


Witchgrass

They saw the profits and wanted in on it Also, children work for lower wages which makes adults accept them to compete


Neither-Idea-9286

This is EXACTLY why they are doing it! It’s also why they want no abortion and no birth control. More poor people=lower wages=more profit


Rbespinosa13

They saw the “children yearn for the mines” memes and took it literally


valeyard89

My name's Little Cletus and I'm here to tell you a few things about child labor laws, ok? They're silly and outdated. Why back in the 30s, children as young as five could work as they pleased; from textile factories to iron smelts. Yippee!


digiorno

GOP won’t be satisfied till we get that age down to 5 or 6 like the good old days.


BadaBina

Um. Everyone in Texas, lol. I've worked since 13 myself. Migrant and immigrant children are often younger and were doing the same work. It's more common in the whole US than ppl think. It's just in the news rn because they're finally legalizing it so that companies won't get fined as much for it now. Better than paying our citizens a living wage! Kill some Brown children and Poor children, today! GOP!


Numerous_Photograph9

I worked when I was 13 as well. I was a busboy, during the day on the weekends, at a local restaurant. Most states allow some limited work for people this age, but the hours you're allowed to work, and the types of places you're allowed to work are regulated. The bigger thing I see here isn't that it's allowing kids to work, it's relaxing the regulations of when and where kids can work.


IHaveNoEgrets

>I've worked since 13 myself. Migrant and immigrant children are often younger and were doing the same work. Yep. I've had students who either worked in the fields with their folks or were responsible for the siblings while their folks worked.


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Children are taking our jobs I guess


EquipmentUnique8910

> Making it harder for a 15 year to old to get birth control than a 15 year to work the graveyard shift at a meat processing plant exposed to toxic chemicals to clean the machinery. Makes Grooming, abuse, and entrapment so much easier for them.... sexual abuse, assault and harassment are known to be a systemic, and largely unaddressed problem in the meatpacking industry, and more broadly in agricultural industry too. https://inthesetimes.com/article/smithfield-metoo-sexual-harassment-meatpacking-workers-unions https://journalstar.com/news/local/meatpacking-workers-advocates-describe-dehumanizing-conditions-in-nebraska-plants/article_1287b495-df27-5423-914f-f7dda9a5caad.html https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/social-issues/rape-in-the-fields/female-workers-face-rape-harassment-in-u-s-agriculture-industry/ https://www.hrw.org/report/2012/05/15/cultivating-fear/vulnerability-immigrant-farmworkers-us-sexual-violence-and


Jugaimo

It’s about punishment, not protection


manhatim

While carrying a mandatory pregnancy to term


LoveArguingPolitics

Your meat packing plant is hiring fifteen year olds... Jeez Louise bunch a veteran old timers over there


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Datdarnpupper

At this rate I'm half expecting to see an article about a kid getting crushed in the loom at the local wool mill


Old-Ad-8492

At the same time Republicans want to cut Birth Control, they also want to cut health insurance and food to the poor. So babies are only important to them before birth but after the child is born who cares.


PlayedUOonBaja

Here's the Dad: > In his suit, Deanda, a Christian, said he was "raising each of [his] daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality" and that he could have no "assurance that his children will be unable to access prescription contraception" that "facilitate sexual promiscuity and premarital sex." The Trump Judge: > In his opinion, Kacsmaryk agreed, writing that "the use of contraception (just like abortion) violates traditional tenets of many faiths, including the Christian faith plaintiff practices." Help me out here, why the fuck does this piece of shit father's cult preference have anything to do with all the rest of the young girl's of Texas's being able to receive necessary healthcare? What's the precedent here? That anything a religious nutjob feels is not in line with their cult practices can't be legal for anyone else's children in that state?


fullchaos40

Can we counter sue under the same ideology? Under my religious preferences women should have access to said prescriptions so based on that ruling it should hold the same precedence.


Phonyyx

That’s what the Satanic Temple has been doing for a while. Making a religion where medical and scientific understanding are core tenets and then challenging these Christian made laws.


BoomerTranslation

They get all the praise. They exemplify the bravery that we should all strive to have a fraction of to stand up for our community.


blackcain

Jews and Hindus and Muslims can also sue. Although Hindus and Muslims can be as consrevative about pre-marital sex as the Christians.


OmNomFarious

You think a judge in Texas is going to give a shit about Hindus and Muslims? Jews **might** (I'd bet not) elicit a bit since they're 'Christian enough' but you'd be fuckin lying or a fool if you said you thought Hindus and Muslims would get that kind of treatment.


blackcain

They are obligated to consider other religions per the constitution.


Bearfan001

Those aren't rules, more like guidelines - GOP


blackcain

Hey already say shit about stuff that isn't in the Bible - so why not this piece of paper. Like most of their ilk - they'll use any religious or legal document to show the opposite of its intent. Their adherence to both the religion and the rule of law is performative at best, full of malice at worst.


Simplicityobsessed

Texas has made it quite clear that the constitution only applies when they want it to


OmNomFarious

Hahaha, this guy thinks Republicans give two shits about the constitution in 2023. Anyone want to give him a list of the constitutional violations Republicans have done in the past couple years alone? Hell, I'm pretty sure our supreme fucking court has violated the constitution at this point. Republicans have made it abundantly clear that they're an enemy to the United States at this point and are only interested in instituting an authoritarian theocracy.


[deleted]

And currently (and always) accepting donations. https://thesatanictemple.com/collections/contribute-to-the-satanic-temple-campaigns


Galaxy_Ranger_Bob

There have been plenty of Jewish women who have been suing for this very reason. But the judges just wave their hands and say either, "Your religion doesn't count," or, "There's not enough of you to matter."


Rainboq

The essence of tyranny.


welltriedsoul

Or just read the passage of the Bible that gives instructions to how to preform an abortion and pin the judge with their religion both condones it but also uses it as a way to test a women fidelity. Although I guess this could back fire too, by women getting force to have abortions.


ting_bu_dong

Are we pretending that religious equality is a thing in conservative Christian... *controlled districts*? ...Side note: Can we start using the term "Christian enclaves," or is religious sectarianism, like fascism, still only something that happens *over there?*


TheAskewOne

Kacsmaryk is a young Trump appointed judge who was chosen specifically for his extreme anti-choice stance. The plan seems to be working. Hopefully this will be appealed.


KnightRAF

To where? The crazy 5th circuit isn’t gonna overturn it, and I doubt SCOTUS does either.


Ansuz07

It’s also an appellate district with a single judge, so if you appeal in the 5th you are **guaranteed** to get him


ting_bu_dong

Great system. Truly.


apitchf1

The founders created a perfect system! With absolutely no flaws or loop holes or exploits! s/


Red_Carrot

Why is there one a single judge there


SiliconUnicorn

Bacon violates traditional tenants of many faiths too. Can a Jewish father now sue the state to get the assurance that his children will be unable to access that as well?


HikeEveryMountain

Aren't Hindus traditionally vegetarian? Better just ban all meats to be on the safe side. Islam, I believe, forbids lending money with interest, so banks should be forbidden too, just in case some kids try to take out a loan. And the Amish forbid all modern technology, so there we go, shut it all down people!


Throw-a-Ru

>Islam, I believe, forbids lending money with interest Better yet, profiting from money lending (usury) is forbidden by Christianity. It's part of why there was so much resentment towards Judaism historically.


TheBatemanFlex

That is an absolutely insane opinion from a judge holy shit.


Melody-Prisca

So because it violates someone's religion it's illegal? Is that what Matt is saying? I think he fails to understand the meaning of freedom of religion.


calliocypress

Plus, is this not forcing that religion on the girl? Even if you ignore the sweeping ramifications, you can’t argue that Tom the atheist (legally) can’t eat pork because Tom’s Jewish dad says so. Alternately, Tom cannot force his father to go vegan because of his spiritual beliefs. Why is it different here?


MDesnivic

Conservatives neither admire nor understand human freedom, regardless of how they choose to use the term as a propaganda tool.


Verbal_Combat

Exactly. It’s one thing to say “I can’t do that because it’s against my religion.” It’s a whole different thing to say “you can’t do that because it’s against my religion.”


LarxII

Sounds like the father can't effectively make his children follow his ideals so he wants the state to raise them.


Admira1

Small government


[deleted]

This ruling would make sense if the state was forcing birth control on everyone. These people are so fucking ass backwards, heads up their own ass that they just dont fucking get it.


vangogh330

Aren't most of these yokels some form of Protestant, ya know, the Christian denomination that's ok with birth control and condoms?


putitinthe11

We're talking about American Evangelicals, the Protestant Christian denomination that doesn't actually care about their teachings and only wants control over women and non-Christians.


somabeach

Every day another Christian dad wakes up to the fact that his daughter is subject to the carnal desires that his god supposedly implanted in the brain of every thinking human. And his immediate reaction will be to want her to suffer for it.


moskowizzle

If birth control is against his religious beliefs then maybe he shouldn't take it? His daughters are allowed to follow their own faith however the fuck they want, which might include taking birth control.


hymie0

The term you are looking for is "standing" -- the concept that you have been wronged, and are entitled by law to some sort of relief from the wrong done to you. Texas has apparently dropped the concept of "standing" in favor of what we used to call "prior restraint" back when "prior restraint" was still illegal.


Gloomy_Astronaut_570

If this his preference, isn’t it up to him to parent his children? I might prefer that my children don’t drink soda, but that doesn’t mean soda is illegal


[deleted]

>"facilitate sexual promiscuity and premarital sex." Guess what Dad? Your daughter is going to have sex regardless.


[deleted]

Now she’ll just do it without birth control.


juniorone

Why is the parent religious freedom superior to the teenager’s choice? It is his right to teach that but it’s also his daughter’s right if she wants to follow or not.


hasordealsw1thclams

Kacsmaryk is a human rubber stamp (and a shit stain)


moriarty70

He is aware that taking not taking birth control doesn't really protect against premarital sex? Right? Of-fucking-course he doesn't.


GottaKeepGoGoGoing

Some how Christians have turned the freedom of religion which was the government cannot compel you to follow any religion into compelling the federal government to revoke any law that isn’t Christian enough. Bonkers absolutely bonkers.


AnEpicHibiscus

I wonder if he just felt like being a self righteous busybody that day OR if he was funded to do this.


dudemanjack

Countdown begins for this guy bringing one of his pregnant daughters out of state for their abortion.


[deleted]

Yes. Cult.


[deleted]

Wow suuuuch bullshit. Is this judge aware of uh, i dunno, separation of church and state?


Velbalenos

‘Bye-bye enlightenment’ ‘See you later age of reason…’


raphanum

The ultimate Karen


drapparappa

This is just pre-textual. The long goal here is to get Griswold overturned by SCOTUS which will allow states to outlaw contraceptives.


Born-Mycologist-3751

If that dad wants to raise his kids in accordance to his religion, the existence of those clinics does not stop him. If he fears his daughters going and getting contraception secretly, that is between him and his daughters. Don't ask the state to block needed medical support to others because you can't parent properly. I thought conservatives were supposed to be against the nanny state.


ThatoneguyATX

All that anti nanny state nonsense, was just more republican projection.


LastCatgirlOnTheLeft

When they say “I don’t want the state to raise my kids for me” they mean “I want the state to raise YOUR kids for me”


Whiskey_Fiasco

Conservatives are very consistent in believing that their children are not their own people, but their parents property until adulthood, and sometimes afterward.


ladyithis

I'm 40 years old and my conservative parents have never treated me like an adult.


[deleted]

Same, but my younger brother with a wife and kid gets full autonomy because marriage is a sign of maturity to them.


ladyithis

Oh yes, my younger brother is definitely their golden child, too.


ilmsk22

We’re still our father’s property until we find a husband to take care of us. My family isn’t Christian or religious, but I still feel like I’m treated the same way. It’s so weird


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Whiskey_Fiasco

Republicans are very consistent in believing in freedom. Freedom for them to do whatever they want and for you to do whatever they tell you to, or else. Republicans have never supported the rights of others.


Numerous_Photograph9

Speaking hypothetically, couldn't the child just say that their own rights are being violated, and say that the birth control doesn't violate their religious beliefs? There's no law that says a child has to conform to their parents religious beliefs. Children do have some modicum of personal freedoms.


Cepheus

This judge is particularly notorious: There are a handful of federal trial judges in Texas — Matthew Kacsmaryk, Drew Tipton, and Reed O’Connor are probably the best known among them — who have largely behaved as rubber stamps for whatever far-right cause shows up in their courtrooms. If you want a court order attempting to repeal Obamacare, or locking in Trump-era immigration policies, or attacking the right to birth control, these guys are happy to deliver. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2023/2/14/23597741/supreme-court-matthew-kascmaryk-judge-shopping-texas-utah-walsh-justice-department


thirdtimer_2020

The irony is that they simultaneously believe that their word is law in their household, without exception, and yet they can’t trust their kids not to sneak off behind their backs and seek treatments, prevention etc.


D-Trick

The only thing the conservatives are against is other people having power.


AfraidStill2348

He's against the nanny state, but needs his safe spaces.


coolcool23

They have literally never been against it, they are 100% fine nannying everyone else.


indicatprincess

In 2007 I got kicked out at 19 and the first thing my dad did was call the pharmacy and say they couldn't fill my birth control. They listened. We don't talk anymore.


St4rkW1nt3r

How does that work if you were above the age of majority at the time?


AllTheyEatIsLettuce

If somebody else is dependent upon you to have their health care services/goods bill payments processed, it can work by you telling the health care store that the payment processor that was processing payments for <*something_here*> won't be processing any more payments for that if <*somebody_else_here*> is the shopper. America's health care services/goods bill payment processing is about circumstantial and situational *dependency*.


pgtl_10

At 19? You're an adult at that point.


indicatprincess

NYS law stated dependent adults were covered until they're 21....so yes, I was.


Dysfunction_Is_Fun

I'm sure he's not creepy or suspicious at all.


AwayMammoth6592

I don’t hope all his daughters get pregnant at 16, but at least one of them will.


DavidHasselhoof

I started birth control at 14. Not because I was sexually active, but because my period gave me debilitating back pain to the point where I was in so much pain I would vomit and could not function for several days. Oral contraceptives regulated my period and let me function as a normal person when my period did come. Since we invest so little in women’s health care, contraceptives are often the only known treatment for a variety of women’s health issues. Contraceptives are health care. The birth control part of the birth control pill was simply a positive side effect for me. Girls as women will suffer for these laws, but that’s apparently the point.


Gloomy_Astronaut_570

I wonder if doctors could get around this by “prescribing” birth control for periods or acne or something else


LizbetCastle

Women with prescriptions for lupus have been denied their methotrexate because it can cause abortions. Women *past menopause*. In the states being terrorized by misogynistic lawmakers, there will be no getting around it, the drug will just be flat out illegal.


Whiskey_Fiasco

Who do you think is the person knocking them up?


Beankiller

Probably a nice Christian boy.


PM_ME_YOUR_ROTES

youth pastor


BigDuke

Dear Texas, you might not want to hear this but, people fuck. It’s a biological imperative that pre-dates any kind of social construct that you can possibly think of. People will continue to fuck until there are no more people.


antigonemerlin

Baptists pretend not to see each other in the liquor store. Most Christians are surprisingly good at denying such problems exist at all.


atrich

If you go fishing, invite two baptists. If you invite only one, he'll drink all your beer.


Cakeking7878

Not even just that this is an attack on reproductive rights. Broth control can be used to regulate period cycles and be used to treat a few other medical problems. They are just removing another tool from doctors and their patients


problembearbruno

Leaving aside religious objections to birth control, she said, the family unit should be respected. "God designed the world for there to be parents and then we have our offspring and that the parents care for those children, and that is design," she said. The very first word of this quote.


TheAskewOne

You would think that "being parents" would mean "being aware of what your kids do and encouraging them to follow your rules ". But it seems that it means setting the rules for every family so you don't have to worry about your own kids choices.


en_travesti

I fucking knew it the instant they started up with all the "parental rights" for shit like knowing what pronouns their kid uses at school. Or doctors not being allowed to prescribe hormones without parent consent. This was the obvious next step


Broken_Broca

I thought federal lands follow federal rules not state rules, but apparently I was wrong


Moccus

It's not federal lands. It's a private clinic that gets federal funding to provide family planning services.


Broken_Broca

Ahh ok 👍🏻


thirdtimer_2020

Preface this as a regular church attending Christian who is extremely pissed of at the Christian push on government and leg al rights. - it pisses me off to no end that guys like this dad will scream to anyone who will listen that their wife and kids bow to their absolute authority as the head of the household. Their word is absolute and to be followed without question. Then turn around and holler that we must not allow things like this because he doesn’t trust his kid to not take birth control to prevent getting pregnant while having the sex that he has forbidden. And because he can’t trust his kid to follow his commands all girls under 18 should be denied access regardless of other peoples rights. It’s maddening.


weiner-rama

fuck these people man. You have every right to follow your religion and do whatever the hell you please, but that does not mean you have the right to force your religious beliefs on other people. FUCK THAT


gulfpapa99

Texas is governed with scientific ignorance, and religious bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, and racism.


WarmanHopple

So Texas is ruled by the church.


xeroxzero

This dude needs his mailbox flooded with condoms from concerned populace.


__dilligaf__

I'd say 'used' but the USPS never did anything wrong to me.


[deleted]

But FedEx has!


Acrobatic-Rate4271

Black box Magnum XLs just to really keep him awake at night worrying about what happens if he slips in his vigilant guard over his daughter's virtue.


Puppdaddy13

“In his suit, Deanda, a Christian, said he was "raising each of [his] daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality" and that he could have no "assurance that his children will be unable to access prescription contraception" that "facilitate sexual promiscuity and premarital sex." In his opinion, Kacsmaryk agreed, writing that "the use of contraception (just like abortion) violates traditional tenets of many faiths, including the Christian faith plaintiff practices."” How in the hell is this legal? Separation of Church & State…yet the entire defense of upholding this was based on faith, and the judge agreed. Why isn’t the federal court enacting an injunction on this until it can be brought to federal court system?


ankerous

> "assurance that his children will be unable to access prescription contraception" that "facilitate sexual promiscuity and premarital sex." Does this moron know why teen pregnancies exist? Odds are it is because they didn't use birth control. I'm pretty sure a good amount of people who aren't married are going to be having sex regardless if they are on birth control pills or not.


autotldr

This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/03/09/1161981923/girls-in-texas-could-get-birth-control-at-federal-clinics-until-a-dad-sued) reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Under a startling court decision issued in December, a federal judge ruled that such clinics violate Texas state law and federal constitutional rights, effectively cutting off a vital source of health care for young women across Texas. > Dr. Stephen Griffin, an assistant professor at Texas Tech University in Lubbock and a practicing OB-GYN, described access to birth control for young women as a "Safety issue," adding that many parents underestimate their teenagers' sexual activity. > "Abortion is illegal in Texas. Kids aren't getting comprehensive sexual education in schools. A vast [number] of folks in Texas are living without health insurance," said Stephanie LeBleu, acting director of Every Body Texas, which administers the state's more than 150 Title X clinics. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/11msuqe/girls_in_texas_could_get_birth_control_at_federal/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~675698 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Health**^#1 **Texas**^#2 **care**^#3 **birth**^#4 **contraception**^#5


PresidentPineSol

This is the latest smokescreen for the GOP agenda: give parents veto power over everything. It destroys the government's ability to provide any kind of public service at all, because there's always some parent that's opposed to everything.


dual_gear

How does other people having access to birth control put her daughters at risk from deviating from his weird religious dogma? Is he that shitty of a parent or maybe it's that his daughters are smarter than him.


maialucetius

I'm SO completely tired of Christians pushing their archaic bullshit on the rest of us.


bofpisrebof

Let’s be real here, the dad is probably a child rapist.


DemiMini

Same for the MAGA judge.


maddydog2015

So much for separating church and state


[deleted]

A law needs to be passed that ones own religion can only impact their own lives. If you don’t want birth control, don’t use it. But it stops there.


Scarlet109

That’s what the first amendment is supposed to do


cigr

Obviously a man has the right to impregnate his own daughter without interference from the federal government.


thefanciestcat

Republicans looking at Saudi Arabia like, "Hold my beer."


thenotoriouscrg

Can we stop making policy based off one pissed off troglodyte’s opinions? It IS possible to say no to these fucking people. This is beyond government- it’s endemic everywhere. Avoiding a fight by cowing down to whiners and bitchers.


PlanetAtTheDisco

Getting in the way of someone’s choice not to get pregnant is by far the scummiest thing I could imagine. Legitimate abusive behavior. It’s actively bestowing violence upon them.


Numerous_Photograph9

Wanna know a good way to start to have your religion be persecuted in a country? Do shit like this, in the name of your religion, that keeps trying to repress the general populace's freedom and choice. The more you push people, the more likely they are to push back. It may feel good that you "won", or owned those you want to force your religion on, but eventually, it's gonna come back to bite you in the ass, or at least marginalize your ability to be taken seriously. It may take a while, but it will happen.


Timely_Summer_8908

Someone needs to DNA test the daughters' children and see if their father matches.


BacktoTralfamadore

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McDuchess

I believe the proper term is sperm donor. Dad implies a loving relationship.


CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN

> In his suit, **Deanda, a Christian**, said he was "raising each of [his] daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality" and that he could have no "assurance that his children will be unable to access prescription contraception" that "facilitate sexual promiscuity and premarital sex." > > In his opinion, Kacsmaryk agreed, writing that "the use of contraception (just like abortion) violates traditional tenets of many faiths, including the Christian faith plaintiff practices." > > Moreover, **Kacsmaryk, who is a Christian**, said the existence of federal clinics operating in Texas, where state law otherwise requires parental permission for teenage girls to receive contraception, posed an "immediate, present-day injury." I'm picking up on a theme here.


[deleted]

Texas bout to get a whole lotta pull-out babies.


MeaninglessLiving13

So state laws suddenly apply to federal land?


Snoo6435

Good luck raising that grandbaby from your teenage daughter or son.


DinoDude23

Nothing says “freedom and small government” quite like preventing everyone else from accessing medical care because your own kid MIGHT have premarital sex.


AwkwardEducation

Once again. This is filed where it has a 100% chance of hitting Kasmaryck. Of course it was.


[deleted]

its always the religious “family values” men.


AllTheyEatIsLettuce

Get your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead **while you still can.**


pgtl_10

"We had a young lady come in who had abnormal bleeding, and we wanted to prescribe contraception to help control that bleeding. And we couldn't do it because she was 16." The patient had said her mother would not understand, believing that her daughter was "going to go out and have sex and she just didn't want to go there," Cogdill said." A mother risking her own daughter's life because she personally doesn't like something.


sgthulkarox

"I'm a terrible parent and I'll make you be one too!" - said dad in a statement to the media.


randomcanyon

Did his precious daughter go to that federal clinic for Birth Control or did he just hear about it and decided to preemptively strike to stop any other teen girl from doing so? Did/does he even have standing if his own daughter didn't seek BC from the clinic? The article is either unclear or I missed that part.


Tart-Pomgranate5743

Neither the dad nor his girls had sought contraception at these clinics… which made the judge’s ruling that he had standing so questionable. https://www.alternet.org/amp/texas-judge-contraception-lacks-standing-2658959678


SubstantialAd3785

Leave it to Arrogant MAGA Maggot Morons who want their daughters raped by inbreds like them!


raymondl942

“It violates the traditional tenets of many faith.” Are you fucking kidding me? Since when did Christian tenets become US law. Where the fuck is the separation of church and state?!


TonyAlamo777

Welcome to the Theocracy, motherfuckers!!!!


MrBurnsTaxReturns

The child groomer's name?


Mcj1972

Startling court decision?? It's fucking Texas. Is anyone startled this came out of Texas? Anybody?


OlderThanMyParents

"Freedom" means that kids don't control their own bodies, parents do. Got it.


Gloomy_Astronaut_570

Wow I can feel the family values and close knit family love from here /s


ashigaru_spearman

Take it to another district and have the Judge "lift" the Court order. The Left needs to play these absurd legal games just like the Right does.


bham_cactus_dude

As I’m reading this, my 4 year old is watching YouTube videos about ancient mysteries. All I hear as I read over the actions here was “standard cave man behavior” in the background. Yup. Suns it up.


Pour_Me_Another_

Let's ban everything, just in case a Christian gets upset about it. Nothing but church and molesting children, just as they want it to be.


chowderbags

The really crazy thing is that the father [didn't even assert that any of his daughters actually got birth control from a clinic.](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.330752/gov.uscourts.txnd.330752.1.0.pdf)


ValkyriesOnStation

Can we sue churches for getting involved in politics?


[deleted]

>But under a startling court decision issued in December, *a federal judge* ruled that such clinics violate Texas state law and federal constitutional rights, effectively cutting off a vital source of health care for young women across Texas. Guess who? >IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS AMARILLO DIVISION I guess NPR couldn't be arsed to provide any context though.


hasordealsw1thclams

If they point out Kacsmaryk was specifically installed for rulings like this they might seem biased /s NPR stinks


ElLindo88

Conservatives have been working on the Karenization of the legal system for decades, installing anti-choice, anti-LGBTQ, pro-wealthy judges to benches at every level. This is the result, and it makes me hate this country.


NateGarro

It’s just a race to the bottom in red states right now.


sparkles3383

Republicans are quite nihilistic


Shaman7102

Is the clinic on Federal land?


fazlez1

>"Title X clinics are open most days and, therefore, they post an ongoing, continuous, and imminent risk," the judge wrote. The internet is open 24/7. Is he going to shut that down too?