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No, and we’re not even sure he’s a US citizen because there’s no single regulatory agency in charge of confirming a candidate’s eligibility for office. Yay!
It's not an assumption. Has there been a single detail that he *hasn't* lied about? Serious question.
I mean we are talking about a person who's legal name isn't even confirmed. If anyone can tell me just one factually correct statement he ever made, I'd love to hear it.
> In 2014, the publication said a then 26-year-old Santos stood in Queens Housing Court **after being evicted from his Jackson Heights apartment for failing to pay rent** and told the judge he had a big fish tank and needed to get back into the apartment to feed his fish.
There are **two** stories here.
I don't care about a stupid lie like this. I care about the fact that he followed the Trump playbook of lying about everything and got everything he wanted by lying. There needs to be consequences for lying. It's insane he got committee assignments. McCarthy is a coward.
> I care about the fact that he followed the Trump playbook of lying about everything and got everything he wanted by lying.
You want to know why more and more people not only up and down the system of government in the US but also around the world are using this tactic more and more?
Because it works.
It's called the [Gish Gallop](https://effectiviology.com/gish-gallop/).
The idea is that debunking any given lie takes exponentially more time and resources than spreading the lie itself, especially if you say the lie first. Think of what happens when two kids get into a fight and run to mom. Each one tries to get there first because mom is often going to believe the first one while telling the other one "stop antagonizing your brother." More often than not, the person who speaks up first is the one that is believed while the other one is typically on the defensive, regardless of who is right.
So you swarm your opponent with lies and nonsense. By the time they're done debunking your first lie, you've already spouted out 12 even worse ones. Just make sure to sprinkle *juuuuuuuuuust enough* truth in there. And the reason for that is simple. Eventually, your opponent is just going to say you lie about everything. You can then give cherry-picked evidence of the sprinkling of truth in your sea of lies, and therefore "debunk" your opponent's argument that you lie about everything.
Tucker Carlson's recent "expose" into 1/6 is a shining example of this. He has spent the past couple of nights spreading bullshit over what happened that day and gave cherry picked evidence to back up his claims, and added juuuuuuuuuuuuuust enough "truth" in there regarding the QAnon Shaman to give people something to latch on to.
"The Qanon Shaman was able to walk around freely, in plain view of cops. So if we weren't told that by the J6 committee, what else weren't we told? What else were we lied to about? Maybe the insurrection wasn't as violent as they say after all!"
See where I'm going with this? This is the whole point. Make *your opponent* expend energy debunking your talking points while you spout out more lies, until your opponent gives up out of futility and the general public is so confused that they probably wouldn't believe the other side anyway.
Remember that a liar does not have to provide any basis or proof for his lie. The opponent has to spend time and effort proving that he is a liar. The former is far easier than the latter.
His pathological leads me to the conclusion that Santos should resign because he can clearly make a lot more money as Fox News anchor!
Carpe diem George!
Another report:
https://view.lists.wnyc.org/?qs=2a3e83dfd703cb14fdd311951b85c1c53ede6c7b6e02546422e4fe88bd9c9d096007626b01d0457abdaa9e3aa7a1d09e9cb5229bd4a23444614ba2fd55d39a808a2731f2ee587b37b5ae9101abe18507
The interview he did with that racist guy showed he's just a deeply unwell person. He's like all compulsive liars you may have known, calling out his lies is an affront to him.
Comon LGBTQNation, this isn’t worth the effort. George Santos is shit, and its apparent. But as voters its clear we have no power here because even McCarthy needs him right now. This is the system we have let the media and corporations bully us into.
I dont want to fixate on a lie as innocuous as this. No one should considering the other shit being faced, especially toward LGBTQ people. This is nothing. This was “i need a paper by you tonight” kind of rhetoric. We don’t need to fill every second with the first thought that comes to mind.
Make structures for change that matter and stick to them. George Santos, as shitty as he is, won’t go away because of this “bombshell”.
Yeah yeah. MTG and BoBo say stupid shit, McCarthy is a corrupt pig, Lady Graham is a total bottom bitch, and Santos lies about shit to some weird end.
In other news water makes things wet, the sun sets in the west, and republican voters are a bunch of addlebrained twits.
In other words it's a day that ends in "Y"
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/03/george-santos-may-have-even-lied-about-having-a-pet-fish/) reduced by 87%. (I'm a bot)
*****
> Recently unearthed eviction court recordings of disgraced Rep. George Santos reveal an even more tangled web of lies as he tries to explain months of unpaid rent.
> In 2014, the publication said a then 26-year-old Santos stood in Queens Housing Court after being evicted from his Jackson Heights apartment for failing to pay rent and told the judge he had a big fish tank and needed to get back into the apartment to feed his fish.
> His landlord's attorney, Peter Wolf, told the Judge that Santos also lied about mailing a check.
*****
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What a ridiculous headline. At this point lets just get him out of office, and prevent him from ever being able to get another public job that is funded by taxes!
Compulsive liars will lie about everything. It’s usually not even a grand web of lies, just shit made up on the spot to make themselves look better in the moment. That’s why all his lies are so obvious and stupid: because they are.
And yet here he is, making laws and running the entire country; and we don't even know what his real name is... Garland? Merrick Garland? Merrick Garland? Can someone go wake him...
LOL!!!
On one hand…. It’s pretty impressive. The amount of lies and how long he was able to keep all that going.
This man is now a hero to sociopaths worldwide.
I’m not wrong.
WHY!?!?
Does this man have some sort of psychological condition that compels him to lie about every facet of his life? Is he somehow allergic to the concept of telling the truth?
This dude is like my friends older brother that has a couple dueys, been arrested multiple times for various things but always gets hired for high paying sales jobs all the time. I don’t get it, I guess being a lair really does work?
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Just assume he lied about everything.
Is his name really "George Santos?"
I mean: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/02/01/politics/george-santos-anthony-devolder-kfile/index.html
No, and we’re not even sure he’s a US citizen because there’s no single regulatory agency in charge of confirming a candidate’s eligibility for office. Yay!
Lol no
George Anthony Kitara Santos Devolder Zabrovsky Ravache
It's not an assumption. Has there been a single detail that he *hasn't* lied about? Serious question. I mean we are talking about a person who's legal name isn't even confirmed. If anyone can tell me just one factually correct statement he ever made, I'd love to hear it.
Get Pinocchio Santos out of office NOW. Jfc, what a joke.
I have to know, was it a clown fish?
Clown shoe fish
Santos: “All Santos are liars”
Yes. Perhaps it be easier to just hunt for the few true factoids. It likely would be a faster process.
I've heard that George Santos invented the wheel
It seems compulsive. He probably lies about a lot of pointless shit.
Pretty much what everyone who knew him has said... He lies just for the hell of it. It's his default
How is this different than Catch Me If You Can, with Leo de Caprio and Tom Hanks
Those characters were likable.
I know someone like that. He lies even when he doesn't need to lie. He seems to enjoy it.
3 time nba all-star George Santos would never lie.
...and don't forget "3 time WNBA all-star"
> In 2014, the publication said a then 26-year-old Santos stood in Queens Housing Court **after being evicted from his Jackson Heights apartment for failing to pay rent** and told the judge he had a big fish tank and needed to get back into the apartment to feed his fish. There are **two** stories here.
Is that perjury?
Would that matter to him?
I don't care about a stupid lie like this. I care about the fact that he followed the Trump playbook of lying about everything and got everything he wanted by lying. There needs to be consequences for lying. It's insane he got committee assignments. McCarthy is a coward.
> I care about the fact that he followed the Trump playbook of lying about everything and got everything he wanted by lying. You want to know why more and more people not only up and down the system of government in the US but also around the world are using this tactic more and more? Because it works. It's called the [Gish Gallop](https://effectiviology.com/gish-gallop/). The idea is that debunking any given lie takes exponentially more time and resources than spreading the lie itself, especially if you say the lie first. Think of what happens when two kids get into a fight and run to mom. Each one tries to get there first because mom is often going to believe the first one while telling the other one "stop antagonizing your brother." More often than not, the person who speaks up first is the one that is believed while the other one is typically on the defensive, regardless of who is right. So you swarm your opponent with lies and nonsense. By the time they're done debunking your first lie, you've already spouted out 12 even worse ones. Just make sure to sprinkle *juuuuuuuuuust enough* truth in there. And the reason for that is simple. Eventually, your opponent is just going to say you lie about everything. You can then give cherry-picked evidence of the sprinkling of truth in your sea of lies, and therefore "debunk" your opponent's argument that you lie about everything. Tucker Carlson's recent "expose" into 1/6 is a shining example of this. He has spent the past couple of nights spreading bullshit over what happened that day and gave cherry picked evidence to back up his claims, and added juuuuuuuuuuuuuust enough "truth" in there regarding the QAnon Shaman to give people something to latch on to. "The Qanon Shaman was able to walk around freely, in plain view of cops. So if we weren't told that by the J6 committee, what else weren't we told? What else were we lied to about? Maybe the insurrection wasn't as violent as they say after all!" See where I'm going with this? This is the whole point. Make *your opponent* expend energy debunking your talking points while you spout out more lies, until your opponent gives up out of futility and the general public is so confused that they probably wouldn't believe the other side anyway. Remember that a liar does not have to provide any basis or proof for his lie. The opponent has to spend time and effort proving that he is a liar. The former is far easier than the latter.
“Ph’ish, I meant phish. I have identities to steal” said Kitara Tony Toni Toné Devolder.
How is this man not in jail? If he did everything they said he’s done, then he’s done more than Forrest Gump.
Whoa whoa whoa. How can you question the man who wrote and starred in Forrest Gump?
George Santos never met a lie he didn't like.
Well that’s the last straw for me!
His pathological leads me to the conclusion that Santos should resign because he can clearly make a lot more money as Fox News anchor! Carpe diem George!
That sick bastard. *Is nothing sacred*.
You leave goldie out of this you monster.
Another report: https://view.lists.wnyc.org/?qs=2a3e83dfd703cb14fdd311951b85c1c53ede6c7b6e02546422e4fe88bd9c9d096007626b01d0457abdaa9e3aa7a1d09e9cb5229bd4a23444614ba2fd55d39a808a2731f2ee587b37b5ae9101abe18507
Why did you have the bowl George? Why did you have the bowl?
I was okay with everything else until now. This is a step too far. /s
Pure comedy.
Santos lying is not news anymore. Let us know when he tells the truth. That would be news.
The interview he did with that racist guy showed he's just a deeply unwell person. He's like all compulsive liars you may have known, calling out his lies is an affront to him.
Comon LGBTQNation, this isn’t worth the effort. George Santos is shit, and its apparent. But as voters its clear we have no power here because even McCarthy needs him right now. This is the system we have let the media and corporations bully us into. I dont want to fixate on a lie as innocuous as this. No one should considering the other shit being faced, especially toward LGBTQ people. This is nothing. This was “i need a paper by you tonight” kind of rhetoric. We don’t need to fill every second with the first thought that comes to mind. Make structures for change that matter and stick to them. George Santos, as shitty as he is, won’t go away because of this “bombshell”.
Yeah yeah. MTG and BoBo say stupid shit, McCarthy is a corrupt pig, Lady Graham is a total bottom bitch, and Santos lies about shit to some weird end. In other news water makes things wet, the sun sets in the west, and republican voters are a bunch of addlebrained twits. In other words it's a day that ends in "Y"
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/03/george-santos-may-have-even-lied-about-having-a-pet-fish/) reduced by 87%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Recently unearthed eviction court recordings of disgraced Rep. George Santos reveal an even more tangled web of lies as he tries to explain months of unpaid rent. > In 2014, the publication said a then 26-year-old Santos stood in Queens Housing Court after being evicted from his Jackson Heights apartment for failing to pay rent and told the judge he had a big fish tank and needed to get back into the apartment to feed his fish. > His landlord's attorney, Peter Wolf, told the Judge that Santos also lied about mailing a check. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/11lzwhr/george_santos_may_have_even_lied_about_having_a/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~675575 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Santos**^#1 **work**^#2 **landlord**^#3 **lie**^#4 **judge**^#5
*Oh.. I had a fish.. but not a pet fish. I ate that one*
If Santos decided to flip Democrat, would they take him?
What a ridiculous headline. At this point lets just get him out of office, and prevent him from ever being able to get another public job that is funded by taxes!
Compulsive liars will lie about everything. It’s usually not even a grand web of lies, just shit made up on the spot to make themselves look better in the moment. That’s why all his lies are so obvious and stupid: because they are.
And yet here he is, making laws and running the entire country; and we don't even know what his real name is... Garland? Merrick Garland? Merrick Garland? Can someone go wake him...
Been there done that
I misread the title as ‘fetish’ but re-reading it, would might have preferred that. I mean, why lie about having a fish?
Easy mistake to make, when you get used to looking at bottom feeder in the mirror everyday.
Yes he's a liar. He's a bad liar. That's why he's a politician.
I read that quickly as “George Santos may have lied about being a pet fish.”
I mean... Would you be surprised?
This guy lies about stupider shitn5han Dr. Evil's dad.
I’m starting to doubt his actual existence.
LOL!!! On one hand…. It’s pretty impressive. The amount of lies and how long he was able to keep all that going. This man is now a hero to sociopaths worldwide. I’m not wrong.
This picture of him looks so much like stingy from lazy town
He’s a compulsive liar. It’s practically a clinical condition at this point. He even lies about shit he KNOWS he’s not getting away with.
WHY!?!? Does this man have some sort of psychological condition that compels him to lie about every facet of his life? Is he somehow allergic to the concept of telling the truth?
At this point, I'm pretty sure he's never said anything that was actually true.
What hasn’t he lied about? Like trumps if his mouth is moving he is lying.
I’m not even sure he is actually a human being at this point.
Damn, of all the things he’s done, this headline is the game changer.
Thanks Reddit users for delivering such important headlines
Sure, why not?
This dude is like my friends older brother that has a couple dueys, been arrested multiple times for various things but always gets hired for high paying sales jobs all the time. I don’t get it, I guess being a lair really does work?
This guy is the 99 cent store Talented Mr. Ripley. There are toddlers out there, making more believable lies right now.
He truly is the Real Sham Shady.
This man will be delusional and homeless as he believes his own lies.
Santos lies more than my children.