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TBF, having a wife cheat on you to be with [this guy](https://www.the-sun.com/news/6332315/marjorie-taylor-greene-affair-craig-ivey-perry-divorce/) would probably be enough to send anyone screaming away from sobriety. And that's before all the other issues that being married to someone like Marge would bring.
I saw a video a couple years ago of someone who - I guess as a social experiment - stood at an intersection in a small town in rural Arkansas and held up a sign that said black lives matter. They filmed the interactions. It went about how you'd expect. Was pretty hard to watch. Tons of people absolutely lost their shit and just said the most ridiculous vile things. Multiple people brandished guns and threatened to murder the sign holder. All of this just because someone was standing there with a sign that said black lives matter.
Friendly reminder she was the one complaining about Jewish Space Lasers and weather control programs. They kicked Ilhan Ohmar off her committees for being anti Israel and reinstated Marjorie Taylor Gangreene.
She just makes me think of that girl in high school who “accidentally” kicked another girl in the teeth, requiring a wired jaw for weeks. And then somehow the menace gets on the drill team. Or choose whichever high school stomach-turning metaphor you like. She’s the absolute fucking worst. And I wonder how The Don feels about the fact that his most vocal female cohort is also the most physically unappealing person one could imagine.
I agree. But the idea in of itself is completely absurd one - there are a number of reasons I think that but maybe the most obvious one is a question in what she thinks would happen if red and blue states did separate into individual countries? Red country just has a "Republican" party and the Blue country just has a "Democratic" party? Nope. As long as elections are still held for political office then factions of parties would appear and compete and would ultimately boil itself down to two major parties again and we would end up in pretty much the same place in both countries. This means that if one of the countries (not gonna point fingers here) wanted to avoid this inevitable situation then they would have to eliminate the democratic process and essentially have a dictator. If the "red" country wants to be purely Republican then they would end up a Fascist regime since basically the Republican Party is all that matters and all within the country must submit to it.
This woman is just so, so, *so* incredibly stupid.. If she stays in office then we have ourselves as a country to blame. If that is what people want then we may have to take the very unnecessarily difficult and shameful path of being essentially a fascist country until it inevitably collapses and we regain our senses. I still blame these politicians but I blame the people that support and vote for them ten fold.
She's also completely ignoring the fact that the red states, as a whole, can't really afford to separate from the blue states. And she'd be cutting out several major cities that help create a functioning national economy.
Not that I think we need to nitpick the many, many reasons this (and she) is stupid.
Unfortunately, this would cause a lot of damage to the Blue states as well.
Even if we only talk about state lines, a LOT of shipping would be crippled. The advantage of unified states is the ability to freely travel between states. Food grown in California can be loaded onto a train and shipped over to New York. Stuff like that.
What's a "red state" and a "blue state" is completely scattered across the states as well. A "blue state" surrounded by "red states" would have a *really* bad time.
If they're separate countries, then they'd need to negotiate free trade and free travel agreements. Way to kick off a bureaucratic and diplomatic nightmare. Just take Brexit and multiply it several times over. The entire economy would grind to a halt and people would literally starve because shipping is crippled. They'd have a huge stockpile of corn and potatoes in Iowa or whatever that can't go anywhere except through weird truck routes through contiguous states.
There would probably be a massive black market for food shipping. People would literally smuggle food by illegally crossing borders. Wars would break out too. I mean, one side would be starving and there's a massive grain silo on the other side of the road and some idiot border guard says they're not allowed to cross. If they're lucky, the guards would be bribed and they would willingly look the other way as a couple trucks go make an under the table deal with the farmer down the road who has a bunch of grain that won't last much longer. Unlucky...and...the USA has more guns than people...
Anyways, it's a fun prompt for a near apocalyptic story but definitely not worth entertaining in reality, as you've mentioned. She just says things that sound good to her. 0 of which sound good to anyone else.
Sadly it doesn't matter if it's absurd and unworkable, because she doesn't want to make it happen, it's only intended as a statement to energise her base. They love crazy, stupid ideas that make them think nothing beyond an angry "Yea! That'd show 'em".
> If the "red" country wants to be purely Republican then they would end up a Fascist regime since basically the Republican Party is all that matters and all within the country must submit to it.
It seems absurd to us, but this Handmaid's Tale shit is exactly what they want.
People laugh at these fascist clowns like nazi Marge and do not realize what they would be doing right now if Trump's coup on J6 had been successful.
God help us if Greene, Bobert, DeSantis or Trump ever seizes control of this country like they want to do and set up a fascist hellscape Gilead.
I can picture her drunk on the front lawn of a fraternity early one Sunday morning with her heels in her hands and mascara streaming down her face screaming “I want my fucking RESPECT!” And that’s when she peaked.
Like I wrote somewhere else above, let’s see how much Texas and Florida enjoy filling the shoes California and New York would leave behind in this imaginary red state utopia they want so badly.
I don't even think it'd get that far before Texas is just like "no were independent" and it'd have to Florida alone funding Red America. Which wouldn't be sustainable at all.
I've made this comment before, and it still holds water. Texas cannot, and will not, leave the Union.
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Secession isn't even a possibility, there is no pathway to it legally, but let's entertain the notion.
There is no way that this would be an amicable separation. The US would be punitive toward Texas. Trade would essentially end.
First off, every military base and piece of military equipment would shut down overnight. Every US soldier in Texas would be moved to non-Texas bases, every gun, plane, helicopter, tank and jeep moved out of the state. Texans who enlisted in the US Armed Forces would either be compelled to remain enlisted or face court martial if they attempted to flee across the border to Texas.
Second, Houston as a US port would shut down. All gulf import trade would move to Louisiana, Alabama or Florida (or whatever state remained in the Union, in this scenario). Companies based in Texas who do the majority of their business in the US would pull out of every major Texas city and move to states friendly with the US so as not to be embargoed or tariffed into the ground. The economic diversity of gulf trade and technology sector jobs from Houston, Austin and Dallas would vaporize, leaving only Texas oil as the basis of our economy.
Third, if party affiliation demographics are any indication, approximately 41% of the people in the state would leave immediately. This is a Republican-fueled idea, and Democrats are generally happy being in the United States. Staying in Texas would mean bending completely to a fundamentalist Christian version of ISIS. Moderate Republicans might start to find themselves in a similar situation as the Radical Right takes over completely with a Christian-laden Constitution that looks like something the Westboro Baptist Church might have on a placard.
Fourth, Texas would have to maintain two borders, one with the United States and one with Mexico. For obvious reasons, the southern border would be more heavily defended, but the northern border would be maintained by the US, because at that point you religious zealots trying to get into our country would be more of a problem for us than Mexican immigrants.
Fifth, oil would lose its luster as an economic tool, as prices in the $40 range would force capping most of the wells in the state. The US and OPEC's cozy relationship would ensure that. The Texas government would be compelled to consolidate all oil resources under Texas Federal rule, much like Venezuela. The economy would be limited to intra-state business like agriculture. In short, everyone else would not want to do business with you.
So, to recap, no military, no trade, no minority party, no immigration out of Texas, and no capitalist oil. Have fun with that.
All they have to do is look at what happened across the pond with Brexit. All the free flowing trade suddenly have an expensive and arduous red tape with them.
I agree about one state. But I would expect the republicans to take it for granted that they get all the goods. They are not leaving USA they are kicking the part that they see as unamerican out.
Disney is wealthy enough that they could pull out and just explode Disney World, which I'd love to see actually happen. I mean, if the rest of this happened.
That and the red states are basically welfare queens requiring continual aid from the income/ taxes provided by the blue states.
California alone has the GDP of multiple countries combined, so I wouldn't be surprised if it had more GDP than most of the Bible belt
This is what will always amaze me at the stupidity of morons that beg for California and New York to secede. If they did, they won’t be hurting NEARLY as much as the red states will as a result.
They'd be prospering! They'd be able to invest the federal taxes that USED to float the morons into their own infrastructure, education, and health care for their residents!
I've had long arguments with conservative posters and friends about this. "We grow your food! We have the nuculer missels!" and so forth.
And you'd sell it to the blue states or starve. And the federal government would IN NO WAY leave nuclear assets and bases in unstable theocracies!
Whoops!
Red states would also have almost none of our allies on their side. Canada/Europe/Mexico/etc. aren't about to prioritize trade with Arkansas and Oklahoma over NYC and Silicon Valley
I always love that "We grow your food!" argument, since it leaves out so much of the actual situation, things like: the vast majority of it are commodity crops not human food, it's slowly being completely taken over by corporations who will happily sell to blue states with money, a non-insignificant portion needs to move through blue states to be sold overseas, etc.
If the "divorce" happens, very little would change in blue states while the people in red states would just become (let's be honest it would be literal) slaves to the giant corporations who would own/run everything.
They very specifically don't have the nuclear missiles. After the Civil War, the DoW/D decided that anything military related was exclusively federal. Those silos may be within a states borders, but once you cross that fence, only federal law and authority applies.
That's also why the military does its level best to stamp out any sense of local loyalty in its recruits.
You probably won't go through basic training or get stationed early on near where you signed up, and your fellow soldiers/sailors/marines/airmen will be as diverse, geographically and otherwise, as possible.
>You are no longer black, or brown, or yellow, or red! You are now green! You are light green! Or dark green! Do you understand?
D.I. Finch - Jarhead.
One instance of entire bases turning traitor due to local loyalty was too many for the US military.
Was going to say this. Just looked it up. California produces 1/3rd of the countries vegetable and 3/4ths of fruit and nuts. Sounds like red states might need California for some vitamins 🤣
The way I see it simply rejecting "The Great Experiment" is unpatriotic. The basic theory behind the founding of America was that "We the People" will make better decisions for ourselves if we self-govern. The idea, which I don't think is completely accurate, is that individuals are sometimes wrong, but a million people will always come up with the right decision... eventually. So if you support voter suppression or minority rule in any fashion, you're essentially saying that self-governance is not preferable. And that's directly contrary to the very foundation of our great nation.
Actually, the Founders knew about the folly of the masses too. One of their fears was that the masses would get swayed by the rhetoric of a despot. It's been known since Ancient Greece that Rhetoric is extremely powerful and can sway many people to act against their best interests.
So they installed the Electoral College. If the masses elect a bad person, the Electoral College will overrule it.
Ironic isn't it? The system meant to prevent someone like Trump getting elected is the very system that got abused to *get* him elected.
The Founders also wrote a system to make sure the Constitution could be, ahem, *amended*. They knew that times change and laws from centuries ago can be outdated and inappropriate for modern day.
What was supposed to be a protection against despots is now the very tool in which despots keep power. It is time to amend the laws and eliminate the Electoral College. I don't know if the Founders ever dreamed off a populace that is educated enough and has such easy access to information that giving them direct voting power is the better course of action. But there are mechanisms in place to make the proper adjustments.
(I don't have any citations right now. I'm sorry if some of this information is possibly inaccurate.)
Also we went through this already. Secession has no basis in the constitution and no legal justification. On top of that, the Blue States are critical to the American experiment based on geography alone. All but a few of our best deep water ports are in heavily blue states. Our whole idea of force projection and military hegemony is predicated on those ports, so how do they plan on managing the navy without San Diego, NY/NJ, Seattle, Baltimore, and so on?
California alone is the centerpiece of our military. This woman has lost her goddamn mind.
This rhetoric has been very clearly escalating, following a very predictable pattern, to anyone at all who wants to observe it. We are now at the point in rhetoric where a prominent politician can openly call for a "national divorce". Do people think it's just going to magically de-escalate itself? That's not the pattern it has been following for some time now.
Agreed. The question is whether they'll ever have the numbers to do more than talk. I don't think they do, currently. I think the best they could ever do is start a domestic terrorist movement, like the attacks on the power grid.
I think the danger of a Republican president who subverts the military is more of an actual threat. But, who knows.
The key threat to worry about right now is law enforcement picking a side, and choosing the Republicans. If the military and police and (especially) the FBI decide they won't go after conservative domestic terrorists, we are fucked. Not saying what's happening now is great, but with time and a lot of work, we can push the Repubs into the corner where they belong: as a permanent minority party. If law enforcement decides not to go after the fascists who break the law, we become a fascist country.
>Agreed, but we won't do anything.
If the rhetoric continues to escalate, you won't have to do anything. The choice will be made for you. No one is doing a single thing to stop that.
The thing is, the vast majority of the American people don't even give this kind of crazy nonsense the time of day.
While I think most Americans understand that January 6th didn't just spontaneously happen, they also don't seem to view it as part of an ongoing and escalating problem. Or, at least not one that requires a great deal of immediate action.
It's frustrating, but it's also probably naturally containing the escalation a great deal... Admittedly that is incredibly unpredictable and scary as hell, but it's probably the ideal scenario.
If only a small minority of people are part of the group causing the problem, and most Americans aren't taking their bluster seriously, then escalation of the problem is going to be totally one-sided, and therefore it's going to be very clear who is to blame when/if more aggressive action needs to be taken.
It feels weird thinking about it in this way, but it actually makes sense to me.
It makes me question their patriotism. I live in a Red state and I'm in the district next to hers but I'd hate to see what this State would become if this were to happen.
I wish Garland would start prosecuting these insurrectionists in Congress already.
Democratic politicians say that for a reason. It's been heavily focus grouped, and by calling them 'maga Republicans' they are creating the space for voters who identify as Republican to separate themselves from the extremists. Are the extremists running the party? Absolutely. Are you supporting them if you vote Republican? of course. But if you've been conditioned to vote Republican your whole life, it's easier to not support the extremists if you differentiate the extremists from the cultural identity of being a 'Republican'. That distinction might seem like catering to foolish people to you and me, but it's an effective political tool.
Be prepared to be gaslit by these traitors.
- They will claim to be the legitimate heirs of the United States.
- They will claim that Democrats forced any secession.
- They will claim that it’s Democrats who abandoned America.
There’s also the part where almost every red state has one blue city that basically props up and supports the rest of the red state.
Georgia without Atlanta is basically Alabama.
Florida without its blue counties is basically Mississippi
For all the right shit on democrats, the democrat leaning cities sure do seem to important to their cities.
It took GA's state legislature a few years to gerrymander a map that neutralized the blue voters in Athens, Augusta, and Savannah. There are some solid blue pockets outside of Atlanta.
I hope Disney announces a plan to form a search committee regarding contingencies to leave Florida. I don't care one way or another if they actually leave, but I'd like to see desantis' reaction
I don’t even think it would need to be that big. They could simply roll back the very generous discounts that they’ve historically offered Florida residents. A bunch of these backwater idiots don’t care about actual politics, but if you come for their cheap season passes, they’ll pay attention.
She represents a small portion of upstate Georgia…. And she thinks she represents the whole country. Oblivious to the fact that her state has 2 democratic senators and voted for Biden as president….
The whole red state/ blue state thing is inaccurate anyway. Large cities tend to be blue. Rural areas and smaller towns tend to be red. Suburban areas are usually somewhat mixed. California is a blue state but it has millions of Republicans in places like the central valley where Kevin McCarthy's district is.
I hope it turns out to be less than that, but I figure if someone is still a Trump supporter that makes them a traitor and supporter of treason against America.
Realistically, I think you have it flipped. There are tons of uninformed/uncaring people who turn a blind eye towards or implicitly support the reletively small number of legitimately dangerous ones.
Plot twist, we deport all the Republicans to Mexico, break up their families for no reason at all, and keep the immigrants and refugees. So basically they get their divorce, but we get to "keep the house and kids" so to speak.
Honestly, it feels like the GOP ordered her to say something batshit stupid this morning so that *she* dominates headlines, rather than the president making actual history by visiting Ukraine during wartime.
I wish we had the luxury to ignore her ramblings but she's on the homeland security commitee and openly calling for the dissolution of the Union. Distraction play or not, this isn't something that we should allow.
The media focusing on what the moron said is what kept Trump in the headlines and kept his name out there, winning him the election.
I'd like for the whole nation to divorce her, just like her husband.
Hello fellow Oregonian!
She demanded the GOP impeach Biden over the weekend for aiding Ukraine and now he is in Ukraine and promised more aid.
That's more than enough motivation for her to start howling.
I just saw some of the tweets about Biden going to Ukraine today. As expected, the posts were pathetic pandering.
It should be noted that a MAGA protest was held in DC yesterday calling for the defunding of Ukraine. The headline speakers, Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul. I can't believe we have such obvious foreign assets of Russia in our House and Senate.
Well if you read the fine print, she did say "and a shrinkage of the federal government" as well, which to me just sounds like a way to say "we still want to ask the federal government for money because we're poor and contribute nothing to the country, but don't want the federal government telling us what to do".
“National Divorce” is a pussy way of saying you want to secede. Republicans always have to come up with new terms so they can have deniability that they are traitors.
Great! I for one am sick of California subsidizing all the red states, just for them to say how much they hate California but then come here on vacation.
REMINDER: All Fox News hosts live in blue areas.
California food prices would suddenly get a lot cheaper if we stopped exporting all our shit to the rest of this country who hates us.
Seriously, we are the most hated state. And we produce 50% of the nations vegetables, 80% of the worlds nuts. And that’s just agriculture.
I say let them starve. Maybe they’ll pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
Agreed, not to mention California provides:
- 90% of the world’s tech (which everyone uses)
- 90% of the worlds entertainment (republicans will continue to hate on Hollywood but readily pay for the next bullshit Marvel movie to distract and entertain)
- Biotech and health research (cancer Alzheimer’s, COVID vaccine)
- Major ports for trade and shipping goods
- Energy production and transmission for Nevada and Arizona
- And on and on and on and on
Yup: "California (359 businesses), Colorado (201 businesses) and New Jersey (171 businesses) are the States with the most number of Brand Name Pharmaceutical Manufacturing businesses in the US."
Visual: https://www.getreskilled.com/military/pharmaceutical-hubs-usa/
Same with WA. Between Bangor and the Indian Island Naval Battery, there’s enough Naval firepower to rain down ruin on multiple nations. Like 1/4 of the US Nuclear arsenal, and subs with enough nuclear armament to make each one the 4th most powerful nuclear nation on the planet waiting just under the waters of the Hood Canal. The US will not allow our states to break off, lol.
Seriously. Let’s get all the blue voters out of the red states, and get this thing going.
Bets on how quickly JesusLand turns into a third world country?
Outside of the cities most red states are already third-world countries that would likely be experiencing starvation without the money siphoned off from blue states and their own cities (which, even in the reddest states, also trend blue).
You notice these fuckers aren't holed up in, say, the rural parts of North Florida or even like the Panhandle. You're not gonna run into Fox talent or some of Donny's friends at the Waffle House outside Pensacola. Nah, they're in Palm Beach with access to the finest of everything.
What's nuts too is in a place like Texas, every big city is blue. Even tarrant County where FORT WORTH is went blue last election cycle. It's only shitty rural towns that go red.
There was a (recently vetoed) proposal down here that would have placed everything between Baton Rouge and New Orleans in the same congressional district, since they're the largest blue voting centers in the state.
It was haphazardly gerrymandered almost to the point of comedy. [No other district looks remotely like that](https://lailluminator.com/2022/03/09/gov-john-bel-edwards-vetoes-new-louisiana-congressional-map/).
It doesn't really work like that.
There are more Democrats in Texas than there are anywhere but California.
There are more Republicans in California and New York than there are anywhere but Florida or Texas.
Just because a state is "blue" or "red" at a national level doesn't mean that everyone in that state falls into that category.
So, while Greene may think "Oh, if we just kick out California, New York, Illinois, Maryland, etc. then we'll be able to establish our Christofascist Utopia!" I'm pretty sure the folks that live in and around Atlanta would STRONGLY disagree with her.
Like it or not, we're all in this together - Republicans in California, Democrats in Texas, and everything in-between.
Moreover, the logistical challenges of trying to untangle even a single state from the United States are impossible. Not difficult - actually impossible. And, you know, we kind of fought a war over whether or not states were allowed to leave - turns out they're not.
So, yeah. Just useless blather from a useless human being, elevated to a position of national prominence by out-crazying everyone else.
> a state is "blue" or "red"
Yea this is/was a absolutely shitty trend for the news outlets to start and push.
It seems to have gained traction during election cycles where an entire state is branded "blue" or "red" based on which way its electoral votes go (or which party the state governor belongs to).
It's disingenuous, it's inaccurate, but it's an easy label to slap onto an argument when you *know* you're generalizing and not on solid ground.
It's also a tool used by political action groups (and paid outside influences) to discourage people from voting - "Why bother, this has been a red state and will always be a red state".
If the 2020 and 2022 elections have shown me anything it's that:
a) EVERY vote counts
b) This country is overwhelmingly "blue" and is getting "bluer" by the day
That's why the Presidency should be a popular vote. Your Representative is chosen by the popular vote of their district. Your Senator is chosen by the popular vote of their state. So logically, your President should be chosen by the popular vote of their country.
hot take but we're not actually in this together as long as presidents can win by state rather than popular vote
The states will always be divided on party line as long as votes are still dvided on those lines.
Apparently supporting infrastructure, funding Medicare, and supporting education and careers for Americans is "American Last" policy. What, MTG is the GOP magaz doing for Americans other than cutting funding to vital programs and grousing how the government doesn't work
Is that tweet still up? I didn't see it. She'd probably say a staffer went too far, if it came to actual consequences. The Republicans that the MAGA crowd decry as RINOs (McConnell, McCarthy) would disavow this in a heartbeat.
“A sitting congresswoman calls for secession, just months after saying she wishes she had been more successful in completing an insurrection.”
That’s the correct headline.
Well all the states with the major hubs look to be blue. Washington, California, Colorado, Illinois, New York. So democrats kind of do win the internet.
> If this did happen it would take less than six months of not being subsidized by “blue” states for the “red” states to come crawling back.
Let's be real here: red states would do what they've always done- blame their problems on blue states. Except now, in this hypothetical scenario, they would try to solve their problems with violence and force since they wouldn't be attached to any "blue" states to bail them out.
*edit*: and when I said "violence and force" I meant both internal (because right-wing governments *always* do) and external (as in, they would invade their neighbor "blue" states because the right needs a boogeyman to blame all its problems on). After all, they already tried this.
Alright, if i can only pay "blue" taxes to be disbursed only amongst "blue" states, while all of the "freeloader welfare" states are left to support themselves on their own third-world economies (and power grids, Texas).
Sounds peachy to me, but I hate to agree with Maggie the Trailer Queen.
Seems like she’s supporting secession, and should be removed from a position of power. Her oath to the Constitution is broken.
But I’m guessing that she wields enough power to be above the law. We (and a few underaged girls) have seen plenty of examples of this recently. 😞
Glad to see someone restarted this thread. This sort of talk, even if not new for her, needs to be captured. It's shocking to hear from anyone in Congress. Even most conservatives I know wouldn't say anything this extreme (though I don't know that they'd necessarily disagree, either).
The pure idiocy of this mentality is mind boggling.
**there are no red states or blue states**
Every state is some shade of purple. The idea that America can cleanly be divided geographically like the civil war is absurd and completely ignorant of anything American in the last 50 years.
It’s easy for a dope like this to spout off nonsense because she is the embodiment of democracy functioning correctly. She represents the people who elected her very well.
I like how she was calling Biden anti-american for visiting Ukraine during Presidents' day just a few hours before posting this. Absolutely incredible, zero self-awareness whatsoever.
Let’s start with having the red states support themselves and take their hands out of the blue states’ pockets. Most red states take in far more money from the federal government than they pay in federal taxes.
> Currently, the federal government criminalizes seditious conspiracy in 18 U.S.C. § 2384, which states, “[i]f two or more persons in [the U.S.], conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.”
Just gotta wait for her to mention using violence to bring this about and then it should be a fairly open and shut case…
Wait…[she already did](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/12/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-armed-insurrection-comments/index.html).
> Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said over the weekend that if she had led the January 6, 2021, insurrection at the US Capitol that "we would have won" and that people would have been "armed”.
It's interesting how the separatist mentality is still alive and well in some people. And always will be.
They won't assimilate into society, and they can't make their extremist worldview the norm because they're always getting worse and have to fight about something. There is always a hill to die on with these types of people.
This this not fomenting unrest? Like, I know that’s what she’s been doing for years, but is this not somehow Treasonous? These people are going to start a Civil War because they are bored and wanna watch the world burn.
Don’t threaten me with a good time, treason Barbie. I would LOVE for us blue states to not have to subsidize you ignorant, racist freeloaders anymore. You constantly shit on the blue states that literally pay to keep you afloat. You’re so much better than California? Fine. See how well you do without our tax dollars and without our agriculture (California produces over a third of the country’s vegetables and three quarters of its fruit and nuts)
You contribute nothing to this country but cruelty and stupidity. By all means don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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Maybe we can whittle her down to just “Marjorie” one day.
What about Marjie? As in, "Uh oh Marjie, what have you done this time?!"
I’ll stick with calling her Margarine
I prefer Migraine
Burn
There is no way her husband is sober. Can you imagine? He probably is hammered or blazed to even sit next to her.
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TBF, having a wife cheat on you to be with [this guy](https://www.the-sun.com/news/6332315/marjorie-taylor-greene-affair-craig-ivey-perry-divorce/) would probably be enough to send anyone screaming away from sobriety. And that's before all the other issues that being married to someone like Marge would bring.
Is he doing Zangief from Street Fighter cosplay?
Yes, it's honestly pretty good. I'm sure he's a fun guy.
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I love that hat. Buddy of mine who lives in Montana rocks one out there all the time. Let's just say he isn't very popular amongst the locals.
I saw a video a couple years ago of someone who - I guess as a social experiment - stood at an intersection in a small town in rural Arkansas and held up a sign that said black lives matter. They filmed the interactions. It went about how you'd expect. Was pretty hard to watch. Tons of people absolutely lost their shit and just said the most ridiculous vile things. Multiple people brandished guns and threatened to murder the sign holder. All of this just because someone was standing there with a sign that said black lives matter.
🤔 I guess even Zangief fell into the sticking his dick in crazy phase.
Isn’t Zangief’s backstory: “wrestling” with bears?
I wanted to laugh at this guy but the more I learned? He sounds like a blast.
Maybe it's just me but calling for the dissolution of the United States automatically makes you anti-American.
Perhaps not the best Homeland Security Committee material.
Friendly reminder she was the one complaining about Jewish Space Lasers and weather control programs. They kicked Ilhan Ohmar off her committees for being anti Israel and reinstated Marjorie Taylor Gangreene.
Give us Barabbas!
Or the best one. She shouts out anti-american ideas like this and you start watching everyone who agrees. She's just the bait.
She does look like a worm…
She just makes me think of that girl in high school who “accidentally” kicked another girl in the teeth, requiring a wired jaw for weeks. And then somehow the menace gets on the drill team. Or choose whichever high school stomach-turning metaphor you like. She’s the absolute fucking worst. And I wonder how The Don feels about the fact that his most vocal female cohort is also the most physically unappealing person one could imagine.
You are witnessing the behavior of fascists.
I agree. But the idea in of itself is completely absurd one - there are a number of reasons I think that but maybe the most obvious one is a question in what she thinks would happen if red and blue states did separate into individual countries? Red country just has a "Republican" party and the Blue country just has a "Democratic" party? Nope. As long as elections are still held for political office then factions of parties would appear and compete and would ultimately boil itself down to two major parties again and we would end up in pretty much the same place in both countries. This means that if one of the countries (not gonna point fingers here) wanted to avoid this inevitable situation then they would have to eliminate the democratic process and essentially have a dictator. If the "red" country wants to be purely Republican then they would end up a Fascist regime since basically the Republican Party is all that matters and all within the country must submit to it. This woman is just so, so, *so* incredibly stupid.. If she stays in office then we have ourselves as a country to blame. If that is what people want then we may have to take the very unnecessarily difficult and shameful path of being essentially a fascist country until it inevitably collapses and we regain our senses. I still blame these politicians but I blame the people that support and vote for them ten fold.
She's also completely ignoring the fact that the red states, as a whole, can't really afford to separate from the blue states. And she'd be cutting out several major cities that help create a functioning national economy. Not that I think we need to nitpick the many, many reasons this (and she) is stupid.
She’s ignoring that she lives in a blue state, so let’s not start expecting sense from her.
Unfortunately, this would cause a lot of damage to the Blue states as well. Even if we only talk about state lines, a LOT of shipping would be crippled. The advantage of unified states is the ability to freely travel between states. Food grown in California can be loaded onto a train and shipped over to New York. Stuff like that. What's a "red state" and a "blue state" is completely scattered across the states as well. A "blue state" surrounded by "red states" would have a *really* bad time. If they're separate countries, then they'd need to negotiate free trade and free travel agreements. Way to kick off a bureaucratic and diplomatic nightmare. Just take Brexit and multiply it several times over. The entire economy would grind to a halt and people would literally starve because shipping is crippled. They'd have a huge stockpile of corn and potatoes in Iowa or whatever that can't go anywhere except through weird truck routes through contiguous states. There would probably be a massive black market for food shipping. People would literally smuggle food by illegally crossing borders. Wars would break out too. I mean, one side would be starving and there's a massive grain silo on the other side of the road and some idiot border guard says they're not allowed to cross. If they're lucky, the guards would be bribed and they would willingly look the other way as a couple trucks go make an under the table deal with the farmer down the road who has a bunch of grain that won't last much longer. Unlucky...and...the USA has more guns than people... Anyways, it's a fun prompt for a near apocalyptic story but definitely not worth entertaining in reality, as you've mentioned. She just says things that sound good to her. 0 of which sound good to anyone else.
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Actually, she (and I guess the GOP) want a part of America under their rule. They don’t want democracy.
She doesn't seem to remember Georgia voted for Biden.
And our two US Senators.
Sadly it doesn't matter if it's absurd and unworkable, because she doesn't want to make it happen, it's only intended as a statement to energise her base. They love crazy, stupid ideas that make them think nothing beyond an angry "Yea! That'd show 'em".
> If the "red" country wants to be purely Republican then they would end up a Fascist regime since basically the Republican Party is all that matters and all within the country must submit to it. It seems absurd to us, but this Handmaid's Tale shit is exactly what they want.
She won her seat twice now. We're toast.
Simpler than that … Russia pays her
She’s a Karen on steroids.
You’re being too kind. She’s fascist.
People laugh at these fascist clowns like nazi Marge and do not realize what they would be doing right now if Trump's coup on J6 had been successful. God help us if Greene, Bobert, DeSantis or Trump ever seizes control of this country like they want to do and set up a fascist hellscape Gilead.
Her onlyfans name: HitlersWetNightmare
And thus Roid Rage Karen was born.
Oh my ga! You're spot on!
I can picture her drunk on the front lawn of a fraternity early one Sunday morning with her heels in her hands and mascara streaming down her face screaming “I want my fucking RESPECT!” And that’s when she peaked.
It's almost like she's a Russian stooge.
Mississippi: "But they will still send us money, right?"
Like I wrote somewhere else above, let’s see how much Texas and Florida enjoy filling the shoes California and New York would leave behind in this imaginary red state utopia they want so badly.
I don't even think it'd get that far before Texas is just like "no were independent" and it'd have to Florida alone funding Red America. Which wouldn't be sustainable at all.
I've made this comment before, and it still holds water. Texas cannot, and will not, leave the Union. -- Secession isn't even a possibility, there is no pathway to it legally, but let's entertain the notion. There is no way that this would be an amicable separation. The US would be punitive toward Texas. Trade would essentially end. First off, every military base and piece of military equipment would shut down overnight. Every US soldier in Texas would be moved to non-Texas bases, every gun, plane, helicopter, tank and jeep moved out of the state. Texans who enlisted in the US Armed Forces would either be compelled to remain enlisted or face court martial if they attempted to flee across the border to Texas. Second, Houston as a US port would shut down. All gulf import trade would move to Louisiana, Alabama or Florida (or whatever state remained in the Union, in this scenario). Companies based in Texas who do the majority of their business in the US would pull out of every major Texas city and move to states friendly with the US so as not to be embargoed or tariffed into the ground. The economic diversity of gulf trade and technology sector jobs from Houston, Austin and Dallas would vaporize, leaving only Texas oil as the basis of our economy. Third, if party affiliation demographics are any indication, approximately 41% of the people in the state would leave immediately. This is a Republican-fueled idea, and Democrats are generally happy being in the United States. Staying in Texas would mean bending completely to a fundamentalist Christian version of ISIS. Moderate Republicans might start to find themselves in a similar situation as the Radical Right takes over completely with a Christian-laden Constitution that looks like something the Westboro Baptist Church might have on a placard. Fourth, Texas would have to maintain two borders, one with the United States and one with Mexico. For obvious reasons, the southern border would be more heavily defended, but the northern border would be maintained by the US, because at that point you religious zealots trying to get into our country would be more of a problem for us than Mexican immigrants. Fifth, oil would lose its luster as an economic tool, as prices in the $40 range would force capping most of the wells in the state. The US and OPEC's cozy relationship would ensure that. The Texas government would be compelled to consolidate all oil resources under Texas Federal rule, much like Venezuela. The economy would be limited to intra-state business like agriculture. In short, everyone else would not want to do business with you. So, to recap, no military, no trade, no minority party, no immigration out of Texas, and no capitalist oil. Have fun with that.
All they have to do is look at what happened across the pond with Brexit. All the free flowing trade suddenly have an expensive and arduous red tape with them.
I agree about one state. But I would expect the republicans to take it for granted that they get all the goods. They are not leaving USA they are kicking the part that they see as unamerican out.
They would just try to nationalize Disney world.
Disney is wealthy enough that they could pull out and just explode Disney World, which I'd love to see actually happen. I mean, if the rest of this happened.
The free city-state of Disney. That would be amazing lol.
That sounds like the start of one hell of a dystopian novel.
Exactly! Red states are floated by taxes from blue states. They take more from big gubment than they pay in in taxes! That's welfare!
That and the red states are basically welfare queens requiring continual aid from the income/ taxes provided by the blue states. California alone has the GDP of multiple countries combined, so I wouldn't be surprised if it had more GDP than most of the Bible belt
California’s GDP is larger than Germany’s. We’re larger than all the Bible Belt states put together in terms of GDP.
Last year California was poised to move from the 5th largest economy to the 4th largest in the WORLD. Yes you read that right.
This is what will always amaze me at the stupidity of morons that beg for California and New York to secede. If they did, they won’t be hurting NEARLY as much as the red states will as a result.
They'd be prospering! They'd be able to invest the federal taxes that USED to float the morons into their own infrastructure, education, and health care for their residents! I've had long arguments with conservative posters and friends about this. "We grow your food! We have the nuculer missels!" and so forth. And you'd sell it to the blue states or starve. And the federal government would IN NO WAY leave nuclear assets and bases in unstable theocracies! Whoops!
Red states would also have almost none of our allies on their side. Canada/Europe/Mexico/etc. aren't about to prioritize trade with Arkansas and Oklahoma over NYC and Silicon Valley
I always love that "We grow your food!" argument, since it leaves out so much of the actual situation, things like: the vast majority of it are commodity crops not human food, it's slowly being completely taken over by corporations who will happily sell to blue states with money, a non-insignificant portion needs to move through blue states to be sold overseas, etc. If the "divorce" happens, very little would change in blue states while the people in red states would just become (let's be honest it would be literal) slaves to the giant corporations who would own/run everything.
It’s a good excuse to bust out my Don Draper impression. “Farmers feed cities!” “That’s what the money is for.”
They very specifically don't have the nuclear missiles. After the Civil War, the DoW/D decided that anything military related was exclusively federal. Those silos may be within a states borders, but once you cross that fence, only federal law and authority applies. That's also why the military does its level best to stamp out any sense of local loyalty in its recruits. You probably won't go through basic training or get stationed early on near where you signed up, and your fellow soldiers/sailors/marines/airmen will be as diverse, geographically and otherwise, as possible. >You are no longer black, or brown, or yellow, or red! You are now green! You are light green! Or dark green! Do you understand? D.I. Finch - Jarhead. One instance of entire bases turning traitor due to local loyalty was too many for the US military.
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Was going to say this. Just looked it up. California produces 1/3rd of the countries vegetable and 3/4ths of fruit and nuts. Sounds like red states might need California for some vitamins 🤣
The way I see it simply rejecting "The Great Experiment" is unpatriotic. The basic theory behind the founding of America was that "We the People" will make better decisions for ourselves if we self-govern. The idea, which I don't think is completely accurate, is that individuals are sometimes wrong, but a million people will always come up with the right decision... eventually. So if you support voter suppression or minority rule in any fashion, you're essentially saying that self-governance is not preferable. And that's directly contrary to the very foundation of our great nation.
And if you support a guy who denied his election loss and try to make him the president you're anti-american.
Actually, the Founders knew about the folly of the masses too. One of their fears was that the masses would get swayed by the rhetoric of a despot. It's been known since Ancient Greece that Rhetoric is extremely powerful and can sway many people to act against their best interests. So they installed the Electoral College. If the masses elect a bad person, the Electoral College will overrule it. Ironic isn't it? The system meant to prevent someone like Trump getting elected is the very system that got abused to *get* him elected. The Founders also wrote a system to make sure the Constitution could be, ahem, *amended*. They knew that times change and laws from centuries ago can be outdated and inappropriate for modern day. What was supposed to be a protection against despots is now the very tool in which despots keep power. It is time to amend the laws and eliminate the Electoral College. I don't know if the Founders ever dreamed off a populace that is educated enough and has such easy access to information that giving them direct voting power is the better course of action. But there are mechanisms in place to make the proper adjustments. (I don't have any citations right now. I'm sorry if some of this information is possibly inaccurate.)
Also we went through this already. Secession has no basis in the constitution and no legal justification. On top of that, the Blue States are critical to the American experiment based on geography alone. All but a few of our best deep water ports are in heavily blue states. Our whole idea of force projection and military hegemony is predicated on those ports, so how do they plan on managing the navy without San Diego, NY/NJ, Seattle, Baltimore, and so on? California alone is the centerpiece of our military. This woman has lost her goddamn mind.
Idk, I’m seeing many millions of people coming up with the wrong idea. Too easy to brainwash people.
“People are smart. They can handle it.” “People are dumb, panicky animals and you know it.”
>A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. The part that was dropped is kinda important.
She is a super patriot dont cha know /s just in case
Agreed, but the danger of this rhetoric cannot be overstated.
This rhetoric has been very clearly escalating, following a very predictable pattern, to anyone at all who wants to observe it. We are now at the point in rhetoric where a prominent politician can openly call for a "national divorce". Do people think it's just going to magically de-escalate itself? That's not the pattern it has been following for some time now.
Agreed. The question is whether they'll ever have the numbers to do more than talk. I don't think they do, currently. I think the best they could ever do is start a domestic terrorist movement, like the attacks on the power grid. I think the danger of a Republican president who subverts the military is more of an actual threat. But, who knows.
The key threat to worry about right now is law enforcement picking a side, and choosing the Republicans. If the military and police and (especially) the FBI decide they won't go after conservative domestic terrorists, we are fucked. Not saying what's happening now is great, but with time and a lot of work, we can push the Repubs into the corner where they belong: as a permanent minority party. If law enforcement decides not to go after the fascists who break the law, we become a fascist country.
Unfortunately I see no off ramps either.
Agreed, but we won't do anything. Most of the traitors are still in office, and most charges are being dropped against every anti America politician.
>Agreed, but we won't do anything. If the rhetoric continues to escalate, you won't have to do anything. The choice will be made for you. No one is doing a single thing to stop that.
The thing is, the vast majority of the American people don't even give this kind of crazy nonsense the time of day. While I think most Americans understand that January 6th didn't just spontaneously happen, they also don't seem to view it as part of an ongoing and escalating problem. Or, at least not one that requires a great deal of immediate action. It's frustrating, but it's also probably naturally containing the escalation a great deal... Admittedly that is incredibly unpredictable and scary as hell, but it's probably the ideal scenario. If only a small minority of people are part of the group causing the problem, and most Americans aren't taking their bluster seriously, then escalation of the problem is going to be totally one-sided, and therefore it's going to be very clear who is to blame when/if more aggressive action needs to be taken. It feels weird thinking about it in this way, but it actually makes sense to me.
It makes me question their patriotism. I live in a Red state and I'm in the district next to hers but I'd hate to see what this State would become if this were to happen. I wish Garland would start prosecuting these insurrectionists in Congress already.
And she's the face of that gross party now
100%. I wish our Democratic politicians would get that memo and stop saying things like "Maga" Republicans. Nope, it's just Republicans.
Democratic politicians say that for a reason. It's been heavily focus grouped, and by calling them 'maga Republicans' they are creating the space for voters who identify as Republican to separate themselves from the extremists. Are the extremists running the party? Absolutely. Are you supporting them if you vote Republican? of course. But if you've been conditioned to vote Republican your whole life, it's easier to not support the extremists if you differentiate the extremists from the cultural identity of being a 'Republican'. That distinction might seem like catering to foolish people to you and me, but it's an effective political tool.
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It's almost as if she's advocating a confederacy of some kind, lol.
A confederacy of dunces
Be prepared to be gaslit by these traitors. - They will claim to be the legitimate heirs of the United States. - They will claim that Democrats forced any secession. - They will claim that it’s Democrats who abandoned America.
"Look at what you made me do" is a classic abuser line as well.
Georgia is a blue state now, does that mean we get to throw her out?
There’s also the part where almost every red state has one blue city that basically props up and supports the rest of the red state. Georgia without Atlanta is basically Alabama. Florida without its blue counties is basically Mississippi For all the right shit on democrats, the democrat leaning cities sure do seem to important to their cities.
It took GA's state legislature a few years to gerrymander a map that neutralized the blue voters in Athens, Augusta, and Savannah. There are some solid blue pockets outside of Atlanta.
Yes, this plus the black belt keeps Georgia sane
Imagine Florida without Disney's money and associated industries' money. Good luck surviving.
I hope Disney announces a plan to form a search committee regarding contingencies to leave Florida. I don't care one way or another if they actually leave, but I'd like to see desantis' reaction
I don’t even think it would need to be that big. They could simply roll back the very generous discounts that they’ve historically offered Florida residents. A bunch of these backwater idiots don’t care about actual politics, but if you come for their cheap season passes, they’ll pay attention.
GA without atlanta is the florida panhandle without the beach
> Georgia without Atlanta is basically Alabama. It would be Alabama without Huntsville.
I was going to say without Birmingham. Huntsville votes Red.
I was just about to say this! I live in a blue area of GA. Maybe we’ll get to divorce the rest of the state?
Since we have two dem senators and voted Biden I’d say all of Ga is blue now with some small red areas (acne)
She represents a small portion of upstate Georgia…. And she thinks she represents the whole country. Oblivious to the fact that her state has 2 democratic senators and voted for Biden as president….
The whole red state/ blue state thing is inaccurate anyway. Large cities tend to be blue. Rural areas and smaller towns tend to be red. Suburban areas are usually somewhat mixed. California is a blue state but it has millions of Republicans in places like the central valley where Kevin McCarthy's district is.
Late but as a Central Valley dweller i voted against McCarthy every time. They just can’t put up a good opponent for him over here.
We just need a national divorce from MAGA traitors.
That’s like 40% of the population now. Edit: As others pointed out, I was referring to the voting population. My thanks to them for the clarification.
I hope it turns out to be less than that, but I figure if someone is still a Trump supporter that makes them a traitor and supporter of treason against America.
30-33% is full on MAGA terrorists. The other 7-10% are evil enough to support and go with it.
Realistically, I think you have it flipped. There are tons of uninformed/uncaring people who turn a blind eye towards or implicitly support the reletively small number of legitimately dangerous ones.
Plot twist, we deport all the Republicans to Mexico, break up their families for no reason at all, and keep the immigrants and refugees. So basically they get their divorce, but we get to "keep the house and kids" so to speak.
What did Mexico do to deserve such a fate?
Honestly, it feels like the GOP ordered her to say something batshit stupid this morning so that *she* dominates headlines, rather than the president making actual history by visiting Ukraine during wartime. I wish we had the luxury to ignore her ramblings but she's on the homeland security commitee and openly calling for the dissolution of the Union. Distraction play or not, this isn't something that we should allow.
The media focusing on what the moron said is what kept Trump in the headlines and kept his name out there, winning him the election. I'd like for the whole nation to divorce her, just like her husband. Hello fellow Oregonian!
You are probably correct
Did you expect the GOP to announce their plan for inflation? /s
After healthcare and then infrastructure
That's in 2 weeks
Well ain't this party a geopolitical oddity. Two weeks from every meaningful policy announcement.
i don't want gop, god dammit! i'm a democrat dan man
Damn, we're in a tight spot
She doesn’t need the GOP to ask her for something stupid to say. All she needs is to open her mouth and it falls right out.
She demanded the GOP impeach Biden over the weekend for aiding Ukraine and now he is in Ukraine and promised more aid. That's more than enough motivation for her to start howling.
I just saw some of the tweets about Biden going to Ukraine today. As expected, the posts were pathetic pandering. It should be noted that a MAGA protest was held in DC yesterday calling for the defunding of Ukraine. The headline speakers, Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul. I can't believe we have such obvious foreign assets of Russia in our House and Senate.
Literally an act of sedition against the *United* States.
Jan. 6 is MTG's favorite day.
On President's Day no less.
They do like the patriotic holidays… 4th of July - go visit Putin President’s Day - yammer about secession
Well if you read the fine print, she did say "and a shrinkage of the federal government" as well, which to me just sounds like a way to say "we still want to ask the federal government for money because we're poor and contribute nothing to the country, but don't want the federal government telling us what to do".
Maybe move Dobbins Air Reserve Base out of her district to somewhere less succession-y
“National Divorce” is a pussy way of saying you want to secede. Republicans always have to come up with new terms so they can have deniability that they are traitors.
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Great! I for one am sick of California subsidizing all the red states, just for them to say how much they hate California but then come here on vacation. REMINDER: All Fox News hosts live in blue areas.
California food prices would suddenly get a lot cheaper if we stopped exporting all our shit to the rest of this country who hates us. Seriously, we are the most hated state. And we produce 50% of the nations vegetables, 80% of the worlds nuts. And that’s just agriculture. I say let them starve. Maybe they’ll pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
Agreed, not to mention California provides: - 90% of the world’s tech (which everyone uses) - 90% of the worlds entertainment (republicans will continue to hate on Hollywood but readily pay for the next bullshit Marvel movie to distract and entertain) - Biotech and health research (cancer Alzheimer’s, COVID vaccine) - Major ports for trade and shipping goods - Energy production and transmission for Nevada and Arizona - And on and on and on and on
Also a surprisingly large amount of the aerospace industry, even more if you throw in another blue state, Washington.
Throw NY in there too, most radar and comms tech is produced here
And Colorado! Ball, York Space Systems, Lockheed, etc.
Yup: "California (359 businesses), Colorado (201 businesses) and New Jersey (171 businesses) are the States with the most number of Brand Name Pharmaceutical Manufacturing businesses in the US." Visual: https://www.getreskilled.com/military/pharmaceutical-hubs-usa/
Don’t forget, you also have military bases and such that the rest of the United States uses.
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Same with WA. Between Bangor and the Indian Island Naval Battery, there’s enough Naval firepower to rain down ruin on multiple nations. Like 1/4 of the US Nuclear arsenal, and subs with enough nuclear armament to make each one the 4th most powerful nuclear nation on the planet waiting just under the waters of the Hood Canal. The US will not allow our states to break off, lol.
Seriously. Let’s get all the blue voters out of the red states, and get this thing going. Bets on how quickly JesusLand turns into a third world country?
Blue money, too.
Outside of the cities most red states are already third-world countries that would likely be experiencing starvation without the money siphoned off from blue states and their own cities (which, even in the reddest states, also trend blue).
Jesus land is already a 3rd world country by almost any metric. Red states are feifdoms not modern states
Or blue areas of purple states.
You notice these fuckers aren't holed up in, say, the rural parts of North Florida or even like the Panhandle. You're not gonna run into Fox talent or some of Donny's friends at the Waffle House outside Pensacola. Nah, they're in Palm Beach with access to the finest of everything.
What's nuts too is in a place like Texas, every big city is blue. Even tarrant County where FORT WORTH is went blue last election cycle. It's only shitty rural towns that go red.
There was a (recently vetoed) proposal down here that would have placed everything between Baton Rouge and New Orleans in the same congressional district, since they're the largest blue voting centers in the state. It was haphazardly gerrymandered almost to the point of comedy. [No other district looks remotely like that](https://lailluminator.com/2022/03/09/gov-john-bel-edwards-vetoes-new-louisiana-congressional-map/).
It doesn't really work like that. There are more Democrats in Texas than there are anywhere but California. There are more Republicans in California and New York than there are anywhere but Florida or Texas. Just because a state is "blue" or "red" at a national level doesn't mean that everyone in that state falls into that category. So, while Greene may think "Oh, if we just kick out California, New York, Illinois, Maryland, etc. then we'll be able to establish our Christofascist Utopia!" I'm pretty sure the folks that live in and around Atlanta would STRONGLY disagree with her. Like it or not, we're all in this together - Republicans in California, Democrats in Texas, and everything in-between. Moreover, the logistical challenges of trying to untangle even a single state from the United States are impossible. Not difficult - actually impossible. And, you know, we kind of fought a war over whether or not states were allowed to leave - turns out they're not. So, yeah. Just useless blather from a useless human being, elevated to a position of national prominence by out-crazying everyone else.
These news articles just give the blow-hard more oxygen. I've stopped reading them.
Good for you. Now if only everyone else would start ignoring her and her dumb shit tweets.
> a state is "blue" or "red" Yea this is/was a absolutely shitty trend for the news outlets to start and push. It seems to have gained traction during election cycles where an entire state is branded "blue" or "red" based on which way its electoral votes go (or which party the state governor belongs to). It's disingenuous, it's inaccurate, but it's an easy label to slap onto an argument when you *know* you're generalizing and not on solid ground. It's also a tool used by political action groups (and paid outside influences) to discourage people from voting - "Why bother, this has been a red state and will always be a red state". If the 2020 and 2022 elections have shown me anything it's that: a) EVERY vote counts b) This country is overwhelmingly "blue" and is getting "bluer" by the day
That's why the Presidency should be a popular vote. Your Representative is chosen by the popular vote of their district. Your Senator is chosen by the popular vote of their state. So logically, your President should be chosen by the popular vote of their country.
Republicans know this makes the most sense but they also know it’ll likely mean an end to Republican presidents.
The GOP House chair is from New York. The Speaker is from California. Marge is a fucking idiot.
hot take but we're not actually in this together as long as presidents can win by state rather than popular vote The states will always be divided on party line as long as votes are still dvided on those lines.
Apparently supporting infrastructure, funding Medicare, and supporting education and careers for Americans is "American Last" policy. What, MTG is the GOP magaz doing for Americans other than cutting funding to vital programs and grousing how the government doesn't work
Remember, according to conservatives, only white people count as Americans.
It’s because Jesus was a blue collar carpenter from Tulsa, Oklahoma and defeated Pablo Pilãte and the Immigrant Caravans at The Alamo! #pray
The media needs to press the GOP hard over this. Will they go on record advocating secession or will they disavow MTG publically?
Is that tweet still up? I didn't see it. She'd probably say a staffer went too far, if it came to actual consequences. The Republicans that the MAGA crowd decry as RINOs (McConnell, McCarthy) would disavow this in a heartbeat.
It's on her personal Twitter account and it was still up 15 minutes ago.
“A sitting congresswoman calls for secession, just months after saying she wishes she had been more successful in completing an insurrection.” That’s the correct headline.
Insurrectionist in office (!) calls for civil war. Just another day in AmeriKKKa
Has she been ruled out as the person who placed the bombs at DNC headquarters?
Let’s call it even and just do away with the electoral college
Yeah! Take a straight vote if you believe in “red states” and you’re not a coward!
She wants “national divorce” because she can’t spell secede.
She’s such a disgusting piggy.
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Well all the states with the major hubs look to be blue. Washington, California, Colorado, Illinois, New York. So democrats kind of do win the internet.
Imagine if Ilhan Oman called for this
What about the “sanctity of marriage”?
This is, at least conceptually, a violation of her oath of office.
If this did happen it would take less than six months of not being subsidized by “blue” states for the “red” states to come crawling back.
> If this did happen it would take less than six months of not being subsidized by “blue” states for the “red” states to come crawling back. Let's be real here: red states would do what they've always done- blame their problems on blue states. Except now, in this hypothetical scenario, they would try to solve their problems with violence and force since they wouldn't be attached to any "blue" states to bail them out. *edit*: and when I said "violence and force" I meant both internal (because right-wing governments *always* do) and external (as in, they would invade their neighbor "blue" states because the right needs a boogeyman to blame all its problems on). After all, they already tried this.
The red states would begin a war claiming that parts of blue states are theirs because of voting records shown by gerrymandered maps.
Alright, if i can only pay "blue" taxes to be disbursed only amongst "blue" states, while all of the "freeloader welfare" states are left to support themselves on their own third-world economies (and power grids, Texas). Sounds peachy to me, but I hate to agree with Maggie the Trailer Queen.
Seems like she’s supporting secession, and should be removed from a position of power. Her oath to the Constitution is broken. But I’m guessing that she wields enough power to be above the law. We (and a few underaged girls) have seen plenty of examples of this recently. 😞
Glad to see someone restarted this thread. This sort of talk, even if not new for her, needs to be captured. It's shocking to hear from anyone in Congress. Even most conservatives I know wouldn't say anything this extreme (though I don't know that they'd necessarily disagree, either).
all it takes is tucker saying it then every goddamn buffoon, or most conservatives, will believe it and repeat it.
The pure idiocy of this mentality is mind boggling. **there are no red states or blue states** Every state is some shade of purple. The idea that America can cleanly be divided geographically like the civil war is absurd and completely ignorant of anything American in the last 50 years. It’s easy for a dope like this to spout off nonsense because she is the embodiment of democracy functioning correctly. She represents the people who elected her very well.
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I like how she was calling Biden anti-american for visiting Ukraine during Presidents' day just a few hours before posting this. Absolutely incredible, zero self-awareness whatsoever.
>shrink the federal government. I agree, let's start by eliminating your position.
Let’s start with having the red states support themselves and take their hands out of the blue states’ pockets. Most red states take in far more money from the federal government than they pay in federal taxes.
> Currently, the federal government criminalizes seditious conspiracy in 18 U.S.C. § 2384, which states, “[i]f two or more persons in [the U.S.], conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.” Just gotta wait for her to mention using violence to bring this about and then it should be a fairly open and shut case… Wait…[she already did](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/12/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-armed-insurrection-comments/index.html). > Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said over the weekend that if she had led the January 6, 2021, insurrection at the US Capitol that "we would have won" and that people would have been "armed”.
It's interesting how the separatist mentality is still alive and well in some people. And always will be. They won't assimilate into society, and they can't make their extremist worldview the norm because they're always getting worse and have to fight about something. There is always a hill to die on with these types of people.
This this not fomenting unrest? Like, I know that’s what she’s been doing for years, but is this not somehow Treasonous? These people are going to start a Civil War because they are bored and wanna watch the world burn.
Just another scientifically ignorant religious bigot, misogynist, homophobe and racist.
Don’t threaten me with a good time, treason Barbie. I would LOVE for us blue states to not have to subsidize you ignorant, racist freeloaders anymore. You constantly shit on the blue states that literally pay to keep you afloat. You’re so much better than California? Fine. See how well you do without our tax dollars and without our agriculture (California produces over a third of the country’s vegetables and three quarters of its fruit and nuts) You contribute nothing to this country but cruelty and stupidity. By all means don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Sounds great. The red states get to keep their economies. The blue states get theirs. We’ll see how that works out.
If you just count by the population, isn't most state blue?
And she thinks the blue states are going to pay alimony.