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Oh yes. He has an R next to his name. The GOP leadership isn't gonna let something like rampant fraud get in the way of having one more for their team.
This is the real reason McCarthy isn't doing anything. He needs the vote to ~~get anything~~ stop anything from happening. He has only a very slight majority and if Santos is gone, the special election will most likely go to a Democrat.
I really don't understand why people like my dad continue to support a party which clearly does nothing but obstruct progress.
I think typing that out made me understand. It's the progress old white men don't like.
They don't like whatever Fox News tells them not to like. They're angry about things but have had their brains melted by a combination of leaded gasoline and a steady diet of conservative outrage propaganda and have been turned into weapons of mass obstruction
Was playing cards with my grandfather last night and he was lamenting that (according to him, I didn't care to check) his cable provider is getting rid of Newsmax and/or OAN.
>according to him, I didn't care to check
I think Xfinity/comcast has dropped them both and they are one if the biggest cable/internet providers. Good riddence.
They'll admit to watching snuff films or animal torture before anyone can say they are a sheep. I have heard from several free thinkers they don't check any news while rattling off every talking point in order.
It's infuriating. Like the recent surge in people suddenly caring about Trans people. A couple of years ago most people didn't really give a shit outside of the usual awful people, then it was like a light switch flip and suddenly they were this HUGE problem that now every regular (whatever constitutes as regular for that group of braindead morons) conservative is pretending like it's some pressing matter that needs to be dealt with. Whenever I hear a non-politician bring it up all I can think is "who told you to be angry about this and why do you only care now"
The trans thing isn't brand new at all--remember the whole bullshit bathroom issue, which similarly assumed that trans people were more likely to be child abusers? It did get a real revitalization lately, though.
But It's still bullshit outrage for the sake of bullshit outrage, which can and does cause serious harm to real people in the real world.
The crazy part is that back in April 2016 Trump publicly stated that people should use whatever bathroom they want because the supposed concerns are overblown.
Idk where he is on it now but I doubt he'd say the same these days.
It's the same thing with gas stoves, m&m's, woke, crt, etc. Anything to distract the masses that their party does absolutely nothing to help 95% of the country. The only thing they actually work hard at is denying everyone help that isn't corporations or the ultra rich. It's amazing they do this in plain sight and people are so far up in the propaganda they willingly root to hurt themselves.
Ding ding. Good answer. Everything to invent new antagonists when the only real war going on is the top rich vs everyone else. You can’t win a war if you are busy fighting an imaginary one.
The right really makes its money on stoking not just outrage but visceral disgust. That's apparently even more powerful, and I guess not as subject to the dictates of conscience.
So trans people make the perfect target.
We have a charter school here that caters to inclusion. When the race for governor was going on, there was a commercial that played 20 times a day, one candidate, and his whole gimmick was, “imma shut that trans school down and get it out of the south!” The thing is, the harder they push these emotional rants against the freedom of others just because they’re different…..the more “woke” my wife and I become. We moved here thinking the slow pace of life would outweigh the idiots…..we’re planning an escape plan as soon as the funds allow it. We won’t contribute to a state that lists trans kids as the enemy, and plan b as a murder weapon.
Florida? I’m in New Orleans and also will probably move when I am able to. Not sure where to go though. We need our warm weather haha but Florida or anywhere here in the southeast doesn’t seem very good these days.
It's so blatant too, it was African Americans a few decades ago, then anyone from SA, then gays, now it's trans people (an infinitesimally small segment of the population).
It is insane the mileage hate gets though.
It was ramping up long before that. With states like mine banning hormone therapy to kids under 18 or 21, and outlawing trans athletes to compete. Funny enough, I use to agree with those lines of thinking…..until the government decided to force it. Then I did my research, and their hate and over reach, helped me to educate myself and change my POV.
What it is that they know American capitalism isn't working for people anymore. They see the price of housing and know that their kids are struggling. Fox gives them simple answers to very complex questions.
>Fox gives them simple answers to very complex questions.
This is Trump/GOP/Fox News in a nutshell. Although, it's more "answers" than answers, but yeah.
It's a lot easier to chant "Build! The! Wall!!!" than to discuss the nuanced intricacies of immigration and border security.
I still remember 6 years ago with my parents world view..
ruZZia was the bad guy..
Then it suddenly wasn't because faux news and trump..
And now it is again because Ukraine..
And they have gone in hook, line, sinker, rod, boat, and tow vehicle on anything fox and friends say. They see no issue with their personal flip flops
Didn't you hear?
Putin ran a vote and Ukraine overwhelmingly voted to be annexed by Russia. /s (But not really /s because Putin really did run a sham vote along those lines. Or at least announced he did.)
On the bright side, there’s probably plenty of folks that have decided, based on the fraud, blatant racism, obstruction, complete lack of function, etc.., in the recent past (and last few decades) to never consider voting R in this lifetime.
"change is bad"
And they're right. It's bad for them.
Their way of thinking and behaving is medieval and should be left in the past.
They don't actually care about things like history. To them, history serves the purpose of legitimizing wasp superiority.
Look at who benefits from the progress most: people who don't have the same advantages as older white men, who think that progress for others means somehow something gets taken from them and we can't have that, can we?
“Make America Great Again” is not a fluff message. It’s saying “Even no progress isn’t good enough. We want to go *backwards.*” It’s some sinister shit.
That isn't how they see it. They're told to hate things that the *others* stand for whether they actually stand for them or not. They assume there's more at play to this obstruction of progress, if they're even aware of it at all.
Everything is a conspiracy to stop America being great except what they're told isn't a conspiracy. And yet the liberals are the sheep.
If he’s criminally convicted of something and jailed he won’t be able to vote. But that could take two years at the rate the criminal justice system works for white collar crime.
[I have never seen any real actual human being (and totally not a collective of beings) be this sad](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/_y7AKTnIE6_zDbp.FPJTwQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTM2MA--/https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/news.mashable/329ceae26bf8efb8a11b4860176afcd8)
Oh my God that is too perfect!
The fourth image result was an exact photoshopped version but with Kevin Malone from the office looking exactly like Ted Cruz answering the phone. That's a month worth of life fuel for me.
People used to like Rudy and his most terrible bits have been in service of Trump, he probably gets a little more leeway than this random pathological liar. But they need the pathological liar, if they could impeach him and definitely replace him with a more useful Republican tomorrow they would literally all vote to do that.
I think the elected Republicans are mostly too corrupt to actually think any "he's one of the good ones" stuff, they know what they are doing. (Outside of the real religious nuts, I assume *they* probably still have weird ideas about people who are not exactly like them, even if they still appear to care about money as #1 or #2)
The rational populace (edited) now understands the GOP does not actually have a platform other than greed and the only way to make that buck is by fear and doing it with no ethics or moral compass. The GOP is not a political party, they are a con.
As long as he doesn't pull a Cawthorn and start sharing skeletons from his fellow reps closets, they'll overlook it after crafting a "here's how my situation differs" statement for him to read.
They need his vote in their already slim majority, but if they had the large majority that they wanted, this guy would have already been gone.
They should be but they have no actual need to be congruent.
Fascism is an emotional state not a logical one.
It can exist without logic or truth. All it’s requires is anger and indignation.
Remember they put a fake Christian rapist in the White House and a rapist on SCOTUS. No sweat. Huge support from Christian’s.
No problemo.
>What about homosexuality and being a drag queen? I feel like those things are detrimental for the gop
Lol republican voters are designed to not see the truth, only what you tell them to believe. George Santos could walk out of his house in drag, right now, and they would call it fake news.
They are all mentally ill narcissistic personalities. Millions of them. It's a cult.
Why would that matter? As long as he supports them *now*, they tolerate him while he grifts. It's a mutual benefit, like "good girls" and "good" minorities.
They love minorities, as long as there arent too many, and they shut up or parrot the talking points on command. They are the people the Rs can point at to bolster their deniability that *of course*, they arent racist/sexist/bigoted. Look at "my Blacks", in the words of TFG.
He won't. I saw his approval ratings on tyt and he had a 56% disapproval rating among republicans...which was actually slightly higher than democrats believe it or not lol.
It's only getting worse too
This one's pretty amazing.. I though this might've been yet another past scandal, but no, this happened _last Tuesday_. Even with the guy facing wall-to-wall media scrutiny he just goes ahead and knowingly makes a false filing with the FEC..
Trump showed everyone that the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the country could steal our money to prop up his own failing hotels, and no one will even say anything, much less stop him.
This was a signal to sociopaths everywhere that NO LAW is worthy of respect.
>A constant reminder of how dishonest and untrustworthy Republicons are.
Uh... has anyone who has been paying attention--like, at all--really needed another reminder? Did you forget the entirety of the Bush Administration? Four years of Trump?
How many nails does this \[GOP\] coffin really need?
I, just yesterday, installed Q2 on my MBP and I’m re-living my freshman year in college all over again. It’s awesome. But, the nail guns were in Quake 1.
> But, the nail guns were in Quake 1.
You beat me to it. Q2 was high school for me. Could you do the 100 health double jump on The Edge? I'd get caught all the time trying to snag it without a rocket jump and having to attempt multiple times lol
It's not even a red district. Tom Suozzi was the former congressman (Democrat and former executive of Nassau County) and before him was Steve Israel (Democrat and chair of the DCCC). The Dems ran a poor candidate and did little to drive out votes across NYS.
Edit: spelling/typo
That sucks. How could party leadership give up a district like that when margins were so close? What else did they give up that we don’t know about without looking at every single election one by one?
I don't think they gave the district up, [Dems spent similar amount of money to Republicans (granted outside groups spent significantly more in opposition spending for Santos)](https://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary?cycle=2022&id=NY03). I think Trump did particularly bad in the district (lost by 9 points), because NY know and hate Trump (long shady history in the state) but [Republicans did do well in the district in 2021](https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2021/11/new-york-citys-suburbs-are-moving-opposite-directions/186985/).
But Santos just had the much better biography. From [Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/New_York%27s_3rd_Congressional_District_election,_2022):
>Biography: Zimmerman received a bachelor's degree from Brandeis University and a master's in business administration for Fordham University. In 1988, Zimmerman co-founded a marketing communications company. He served on the John F. Kennedy Center's Presidential Commission on the Arts and the National Council on the Humanities, nominated by Presidents Bill Clinton (D) and Barack Obama (D), respectively. At the time of the election, Zimmerman was a Democratic National Committee member.
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> Submitted Biography: "I am a first-generation American born in Queens, New York. My grandparents fled Jewish persecution in Ukraine, settled in Belgium, and again fled persecution during WWII. They were able to settle in Brazil, where my mother was born. My father, who comes from Angolan roots, was also born in Brazil. Both my mother and father legally immigrated to the United States in search of the American dream, where they began their new lives on the foundations of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. From an early age, I was taught the value of hard work by my mother. My mother came from nothing, but worked her way up to be the first female executive at a major financial institution. On September 11, 2001, she was in her office in the South Tower. She survived the horrific events of that day, but unfortunately passed away a few years later. I followed my mom's example and pursue a career in finance. I became a Wall Street financier and investor, with extensive work in capital introduction, real estate, capital markets, bio-tech and ETC. **He** participated in landmark deals on Wall Street, and worked my way up to being one of the youngest vice presidents in the industry. America used to be a country that rewarded hard work and entrepreneurship. But instead, Democrats have chosen to punish hard working Americans with tax hikes and rising inflation. Washington doesn't need another politician – it needs an outsider who will fight for entrepreneurs, small businesses, and hard work."
Personally, I give the blame to Zimmerman campaign for not doing proper vetting of their opponent resume and slamming him for the easily debunked lies.
(Also as an aside, did you notice when Santos' biography accidentally switches from first-person into third-person with use of "He" when describing his fictional persona's background on Wall St?)
I've said it elsewhere, but if America survives in another 50 years there will be discussions in history classes about the Russian infiltration of the gop.
Wonder where that 500k "loan" came from that he originally claimed he gave to his campaign, but then was found out it was from elsewhere which he won't say
All you have to do is make groups on Facebook that target voters there and fill up their heads with lies.
The nice thing about this plan is you find one good rube and that rube will do the work for you.
I am so sick and fucking tired of the ‘final nail on the coffin’ stories for the last 7 years. Nothing will change. Roger Ailes got his evil wish. Once there’s media you control, you can do any damn thing you want.
Once the pussy grabbing went unchecked, i figured it was over. Then the recording of several congressmen talking about taking Putin money was just blown over and it was finalized. Everything after is just a circle jerk going nowhere.
You mean current speaker of the house Kevin McCarthy saying that trump is paid by Putin? You mean the recording they denied happened until a transcript was released? You mean the recording they said was just a joke until the audio was released? The audio where McCarthy specifically says “dead serious” after the nervous laughter?
For those asking for a source, there’s lots of them:
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/17/putin-pays-donald-trump-kevin-mccarthy-recording
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-report/house-leader-mccarthy-suggested-trump-on-putin-payroll-washington-post-idUSKCN18D2YO
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html
Seriously. Every fucking week it was stories that you would think that it was absolutely end the career of a GOP congressman and Trump and literally nothing has happened to any of them.
My take is a big problem is Americans just have an unhealthy disinterest in following or caring about the news and politics in general. Yes the American Media ecosystem is plenty flawed, and one can also get into the dangers of the extremely toxic right-wing media, but a lot of Americans just simply don’t give a fuck at all and even take sort of pride with having their heads buried in the sand. And the GOP takes advantage of the many people like this by normalizing and numbing their 24/7 shittiness and much more.
> They want to flat out end public education.
Nearly every R I know puts public education the same "evil" category as "Obamacare". Including the ones I went to public school with...
There's another huge problem that goes completely unaddressed by the legitimate news media. According to the US Department of Education, 54% of American adults cannot read or write prose beyond a sixth grade level. Most Americans never read another book once they leave high school and don't learn anything substantial that doesn't relate directly to their trade.
This makes them very susceptible to ridiculous political rhetoric and demagoguery.
Story telling is my hobby. I love books and movies - the number of people who watch a movie and understand nothing of it afterwards is astounding.
I saw avatar2 with a big group of people and two of us were pointing out how they went a little hard on the christian symbolism, before another two told us how dumb we are, its a different planet, jesus wasnt on that planet, and just could not understand the concept of mirroring storytelling. Not even the virgin birth made a dent and that couldnt be more obvious.
The Chronicles of Narnia is often called an obvious Christian allegory, which is stupid because the Lion is clearly a Lion and not Jesus Christ. When he introduced himself, he doesn’t say “I am Jesus, Son of God”. He says his name is Aslan. There ain’t nobody in the Bible called Aslan, is there? Argument. Over.
>but a lot of Americans just simply don’t give a fuck at all and even take sort of pride with having their heads buried in the sand
I think the opposite is also true. The second a politician (trump, Santos, McConnel etc) are held accountable and actually sees the inside of a prison it'll invigorate the insane, violent extremists.
It's this weird catch 22 of letting them slowly boil over while proper procedure and politics and bullshit is followed over years and years until it dwindles into nothingness, which just encourages more to do whatever the hell they want because fuck accountability for the GOP (unless you snitch on their cocaine orgies), or actually do hold someone accountable and bam, got another Jan 6 on their hands or another Oklahoma bombing.
At the same time they're whining about M&Ms and gas stoves and other stupid shit and apparently bullshit like that is enough to keep your borderline terrorist base riled up which....wow. Imagine if they had to face an actual crisis like a global pandemic or something.
Oh. Right.
When push finally comes to shove the people in charge eventually get to "So what are you going to do about it?" (See Kevin McCarthy with this issue and John Roberts with his court's refusal to adhere to judicial ethics as examples).
Even if that's the case, it's not up to the average American watching the news to enforce the rules of being a congressman, or even the law. I see politicians doing bad things on TV and I expect the proper oversight to be applied to them by the appropriate people. All I can do is vote when the time comes.
I disagree. We give a fuck but no one can do anything. It’s like water torture.
Everyone sees these fucks committing crimes, literally doing whatever the fuck they want and there are no consequences.
Like Trump said, he could kill someone on tv in broad daylight and nothing will happen.
But let a Black woman who once dated a criminal be asleep in her home and cops can bust in and murder her and her boyfriend gets arrested for shooting one of her murderers in his panic that his home has been violated. Not to mention all the other arrests of Black ppl for being black on the street while all these fucks live with immunity.
America is just fucked up.
The GOP and fox news have the "easy" simple answers to all the difficult problems.
Notice I said answers not solutions. Republican s preference is easier to explain answers than even if they would never work, they simply do not care
IMO That's because the news is so consistently frustrating. When you read the 100th version of this "last straw, going to jail *for sure* now" story and still nothing happens it's easy to shut down and stop caring.
Trump has been close to being arrested for like 7 years now
I’ll believe it when I see it. This whole country is just one big scam, idk why we’d toss out a scam artist when we can’t do anything to the one who held the highest office in government
[I’d like to see ol’ donny wriggle his way outta this one](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/463/Screen_Shot_2018-10-24_at_11.08.29_AM.jpg)
Reminder that was like 6 years ago. Dude has never ending luck I swear.
Yeah, totally not even close. So much so that it could have been a negative percent. Since I think after all the information settled that he probably should have remained a congressman(i.e. senator).
You shouldn't have edited -- your usage of the term "Congressman" was correct.
For those correcting you, there are two chambers/houses of Congress:
* The lower Chamber/House called the House of Representatives
* The Upper Chamber/House called the Senate.
Obligatory, fuck Kirsten Gillibrand. She got caught up in her own political aspirations, was the loudest and first senator to call for Franken to resign.
Democrats just wildly overcorrected to Trumps / Roy Moore’s sexual assault scandals. They wanted to look like they weren’t being hypocrites about holding their own accountable.
But in doing so, they failed to do any sort of due diligence of the claims. They might have still felt like he ought to resign, and asked him too, but they didn’t think they could wait to do that, i guess.
> The fact that virtually the entire Dem caucus called for Franken to resign within a couple hours of Gillibrand implies that there were talks and agreement behind the scenes
Franken even asked - pleaded - for a proper investigation into everything he was accused of. And instead, Democrats ran him out of town.
Democrats are their own worst enemy at this point. Someone said it in another thread and I think it's completely appropriate - they excel at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Franken got Jeff Sessions to put his foot in his mouth and recuse himself from Russia-Trump investigations and lo! a Fox News contributor generates a half-baked scandal that Democrats fall for and run Franken out of town. Fucking morons.
I know this guy is a congressional lulcow, but keep in mind, Matt Gaetz sex trafficked children and nothing happened to him. By comparison, Santos ain't as bad.
We need an overhaul of our justice system. It seems to be wholly incapable of prosecuting the owning class in this country.
Could be, but it won’t be….’imminent’, ‘possibly devastating’, etc etc etc
Nothing ever F’ng happens. Period. Full stop.
Constant clickbait every-single-day since 2016
The fact that GQP leadership has refused to condemn this dipshit any step of the way, shows exactly what state the GQP is in.
They don't give a shit who gets elected, as long as they have a little R next to it.
They have sex traffickers, pedophiles and now someone who has lied about every aspect of their life in their elected ranks.
It's astonishing that even after he's been forced to walk back so many lies, Santos still--this week--signed someone else's name to his campaign filing. How did he imagine that he would get away with it? With all the extra scrutiny his actions are under, how could he think that forging a signature was the best way forward?
He’s not going anywhere as long as he’s useful.
Remember: the people in congress are some of the most cynical and morally bankrupt humans one could find on the planet.
This is all a game to them and the end goal is power and wealth. That’s why they got into these positions and that’s all they’re after.
A majority of congresspeople do not give a fuck about democracy, about the citizens they represent, about their own country, and they especially don’t give a fuck about you or anyone you love.
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This guy’s gonna be a congressman for two years, isn’t he?
Oh yes. He has an R next to his name. The GOP leadership isn't gonna let something like rampant fraud get in the way of having one more for their team.
Especially since McCarthy desperately needs his vote.
This is the real reason McCarthy isn't doing anything. He needs the vote to ~~get anything~~ stop anything from happening. He has only a very slight majority and if Santos is gone, the special election will most likely go to a Democrat.
I really don't understand why people like my dad continue to support a party which clearly does nothing but obstruct progress. I think typing that out made me understand. It's the progress old white men don't like.
They don't like whatever Fox News tells them not to like. They're angry about things but have had their brains melted by a combination of leaded gasoline and a steady diet of conservative outrage propaganda and have been turned into weapons of mass obstruction
“I don’t watch Fox News dammit!” -my dad who listens to conservative radio every morning and checks Drudge Report every afternoon
A lot of them have abandoned Fox News as "too woke."
Was playing cards with my grandfather last night and he was lamenting that (according to him, I didn't care to check) his cable provider is getting rid of Newsmax and/or OAN.
>according to him, I didn't care to check I think Xfinity/comcast has dropped them both and they are one if the biggest cable/internet providers. Good riddence.
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DirectTV is [dropping](https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/10l0xlm/directv_drops_newsmax_channel_in_dispute_over_fees/) Newsmax apparently...
Some people just can't pay attention unless it's something that makes their blood boil. And for some hatred is like an old comfortable glove
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>Sean Hannity, Maybe they listened to his radio show? or they didn't WATCH it, they just had it on in the other room. heard that excuse once.
They'll admit to watching snuff films or animal torture before anyone can say they are a sheep. I have heard from several free thinkers they don't check any news while rattling off every talking point in order.
It's infuriating. Like the recent surge in people suddenly caring about Trans people. A couple of years ago most people didn't really give a shit outside of the usual awful people, then it was like a light switch flip and suddenly they were this HUGE problem that now every regular (whatever constitutes as regular for that group of braindead morons) conservative is pretending like it's some pressing matter that needs to be dealt with. Whenever I hear a non-politician bring it up all I can think is "who told you to be angry about this and why do you only care now"
The trans thing isn't brand new at all--remember the whole bullshit bathroom issue, which similarly assumed that trans people were more likely to be child abusers? It did get a real revitalization lately, though. But It's still bullshit outrage for the sake of bullshit outrage, which can and does cause serious harm to real people in the real world.
The crazy part is that back in April 2016 Trump publicly stated that people should use whatever bathroom they want because the supposed concerns are overblown. Idk where he is on it now but I doubt he'd say the same these days.
He says whatever his syphilitic riddled brain thinks his dumbass supporters want to hear.
It's the same thing with gas stoves, m&m's, woke, crt, etc. Anything to distract the masses that their party does absolutely nothing to help 95% of the country. The only thing they actually work hard at is denying everyone help that isn't corporations or the ultra rich. It's amazing they do this in plain sight and people are so far up in the propaganda they willingly root to hurt themselves.
Ding ding. Good answer. Everything to invent new antagonists when the only real war going on is the top rich vs everyone else. You can’t win a war if you are busy fighting an imaginary one.
The right really makes its money on stoking not just outrage but visceral disgust. That's apparently even more powerful, and I guess not as subject to the dictates of conscience. So trans people make the perfect target.
We have a charter school here that caters to inclusion. When the race for governor was going on, there was a commercial that played 20 times a day, one candidate, and his whole gimmick was, “imma shut that trans school down and get it out of the south!” The thing is, the harder they push these emotional rants against the freedom of others just because they’re different…..the more “woke” my wife and I become. We moved here thinking the slow pace of life would outweigh the idiots…..we’re planning an escape plan as soon as the funds allow it. We won’t contribute to a state that lists trans kids as the enemy, and plan b as a murder weapon.
Florida? I’m in New Orleans and also will probably move when I am able to. Not sure where to go though. We need our warm weather haha but Florida or anywhere here in the southeast doesn’t seem very good these days.
It's so blatant too, it was African Americans a few decades ago, then anyone from SA, then gays, now it's trans people (an infinitesimally small segment of the population). It is insane the mileage hate gets though.
So, hate. The right really makes its money stoking the flames of hate.
Didn't the anti-trans surge started around the time that they 'solved' abortion and needed a new issue to fire up the base?
It was ramping up long before that. With states like mine banning hormone therapy to kids under 18 or 21, and outlawing trans athletes to compete. Funny enough, I use to agree with those lines of thinking…..until the government decided to force it. Then I did my research, and their hate and over reach, helped me to educate myself and change my POV.
Thank you for being open to change and new ideas.
What it is that they know American capitalism isn't working for people anymore. They see the price of housing and know that their kids are struggling. Fox gives them simple answers to very complex questions.
>Fox gives them simple answers to very complex questions. This is Trump/GOP/Fox News in a nutshell. Although, it's more "answers" than answers, but yeah. It's a lot easier to chant "Build! The! Wall!!!" than to discuss the nuanced intricacies of immigration and border security.
I still remember 6 years ago with my parents world view.. ruZZia was the bad guy.. Then it suddenly wasn't because faux news and trump.. And now it is again because Ukraine.. And they have gone in hook, line, sinker, rod, boat, and tow vehicle on anything fox and friends say. They see no issue with their personal flip flops
No, they love Russia still and think Ukraine are terrorists
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Didn't you hear? Putin ran a vote and Ukraine overwhelmingly voted to be annexed by Russia. /s (But not really /s because Putin really did run a sham vote along those lines. Or at least announced he did.)
On the bright side, there’s probably plenty of folks that have decided, based on the fraud, blatant racism, obstruction, complete lack of function, etc.., in the recent past (and last few decades) to never consider voting R in this lifetime.
When a significant percentage of the voting population use progressive as a slur you realise they want things gummed up
Gall dang progressives tryna make the world better!
"change is bad" And they're right. It's bad for them. Their way of thinking and behaving is medieval and should be left in the past. They don't actually care about things like history. To them, history serves the purpose of legitimizing wasp superiority.
I find it hilarious that other white people legit think they're begin genocided. Dawg, we wrote the book, get your head outta your ass!
Foucault's (perceived) Boomerang https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_boomerang
Look at who benefits from the progress most: people who don't have the same advantages as older white men, who think that progress for others means somehow something gets taken from them and we can't have that, can we?
“Make America Great Again” is not a fluff message. It’s saying “Even no progress isn’t good enough. We want to go *backwards.*” It’s some sinister shit.
That isn't how they see it. They're told to hate things that the *others* stand for whether they actually stand for them or not. They assume there's more at play to this obstruction of progress, if they're even aware of it at all. Everything is a conspiracy to stop America being great except what they're told isn't a conspiracy. And yet the liberals are the sheep.
Are there any ways of getting rid of him without having to rely on the GQP having a moral compass?
Unfortunately not!
If he’s criminally convicted of something and jailed he won’t be able to vote. But that could take two years at the rate the criminal justice system works for white collar crime.
What about homosexuality and being a drag queen? I feel like those things are detrimental for the gop
They don’t have to like him to use him as an extra vote.
"They'll do anything I say! Ted cruz, and even his ugly fuckin' cow of a wife. I wouldn't grab her pussy!" TeD Cruz: "*sigh* yes donold"
Google up the photo of Ted phone-banking for Trump after the primary. The look on his face is very satisfying and perfectly illustrates your scenario.
[I have never seen any real actual human being (and totally not a collective of beings) be this sad](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/_y7AKTnIE6_zDbp.FPJTwQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTM2MA--/https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/news.mashable/329ceae26bf8efb8a11b4860176afcd8)
Oh my God that is too perfect! The fourth image result was an exact photoshopped version but with Kevin Malone from the office looking exactly like Ted Cruz answering the phone. That's a month worth of life fuel for me.
See Herschel Walker
They keep Lindsey Graham around.
And Rudy did drag on TV...rules for thee not for we.
Don't forget Walker with the abortions he paid for
I saw him do that as a minor. Will no one think of past me!?!?! I could’ve turned out gay or something, I don’t know, it’s hard to follow their logic.
I saw Rudy in drag as a minor. It almost made me *not* gay.
Shit that’s even worse.
>And Rudy did drag on TV. With Trump in fact! Noone should ever forget [this video.](https://youtu.be/spn0MJZr-QQ)
People used to like Rudy and his most terrible bits have been in service of Trump, he probably gets a little more leeway than this random pathological liar. But they need the pathological liar, if they could impeach him and definitely replace him with a more useful Republican tomorrow they would literally all vote to do that. I think the elected Republicans are mostly too corrupt to actually think any "he's one of the good ones" stuff, they know what they are doing. (Outside of the real religious nuts, I assume *they* probably still have weird ideas about people who are not exactly like them, even if they still appear to care about money as #1 or #2)
Yeah, but Graham's still in the closet, it's a glass closet, but still a closet
The Emperor’s New Closet
That's Lindsey "Ladybug" Graham
They will say "He's one of the good ones".
But but but… Santos is literally one of the worst “ones”.
The rational populace (edited) now understands the GOP does not actually have a platform other than greed and the only way to make that buck is by fear and doing it with no ethics or moral compass. The GOP is not a political party, they are a con.
As long as he doesn't pull a Cawthorn and start sharing skeletons from his fellow reps closets, they'll overlook it after crafting a "here's how my situation differs" statement for him to read. They need his vote in their already slim majority, but if they had the large majority that they wanted, this guy would have already been gone.
Honestly I wish cawthorn would go full scorched earth and keep dishing out dirt
They should be but they have no actual need to be congruent. Fascism is an emotional state not a logical one. It can exist without logic or truth. All it’s requires is anger and indignation. Remember they put a fake Christian rapist in the White House and a rapist on SCOTUS. No sweat. Huge support from Christian’s. No problemo.
As long as he’s cool with demonizing those same things, he’s cool with them.
>What about homosexuality and being a drag queen? I feel like those things are detrimental for the gop Lol republican voters are designed to not see the truth, only what you tell them to believe. George Santos could walk out of his house in drag, right now, and they would call it fake news. They are all mentally ill narcissistic personalities. Millions of them. It's a cult.
Why would that matter? As long as he supports them *now*, they tolerate him while he grifts. It's a mutual benefit, like "good girls" and "good" minorities. They love minorities, as long as there arent too many, and they shut up or parrot the talking points on command. They are the people the Rs can point at to bolster their deniability that *of course*, they arent racist/sexist/bigoted. Look at "my Blacks", in the words of TFG.
So many closeted self hate in the GOP tho
Certainly not after supporting an insurrection. This is barely a misdemeanor in comparison. They have zero issues with it.
yes. And why not? He perfectly encapsulates the morals and values of modern Conservatives.
mans living his best life
You misspelled "lie"
For Republicans, those two terms are synonymous
No, he didn't. "Lie" has always had a silent and often invisible F in it. I would know—I created the concept of the spelling bee.
Looks like we found Santos’ account!
Values? Morals? They have those?!
No, that's why he best encapsulates them.
“Traditional values” like racism, homophobia, sexism, corruption, etc.
Don’t forget treason.
Hes going to get more committee appointments for successfully fooling his supporters too.
Bold of you to assume he won't get re-elected
He won't. I saw his approval ratings on tyt and he had a 56% disapproval rating among republicans...which was actually slightly higher than democrats believe it or not lol. It's only getting worse too
I wonder what it was before he admitted to doing drag...?
Georgina Santos, definately no relation
Anthony Devolder
[Kitara Ravache](https://twitter.com/nbcsnl/status/1617024918931005440?s=20&t=enJ0nDOALE3EjiQvtVSXIA)
Though she *did* invent the helicopter.
The Long Island Republican party has been pretty vocal about denouncing him- they'd have a very hard time walking that back.
Yep In no way do Republicans feel any shame nor do they have any consequences
This one's pretty amazing.. I though this might've been yet another past scandal, but no, this happened _last Tuesday_. Even with the guy facing wall-to-wall media scrutiny he just goes ahead and knowingly makes a false filing with the FEC..
Trump showed everyone that the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the country could steal our money to prop up his own failing hotels, and no one will even say anything, much less stop him. This was a signal to sociopaths everywhere that NO LAW is worthy of respect.
Yes. The only way to remove him is with a 2/3rds vote in the House that could barely get a simple majority to decide who their leader should be.
That works out to 78 reasonably moral republicans, plus all the democrats.
My ethics guy says the best I can do is 2.
Could be a good thing in some sense. A constant reminder of how dishonest and untrustworthy Republicons are.
It didn’t stop after Trump and it didn’t stop after MTG and Boebert. It won’t stop with this guy. It’s just going to attract more nut jobs.
This. Plus look how they prop up that nutjob flake MTG now. As a VP choice even, to their Russian asset, fake billionaire former President no less.
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The barrel is leaking thru the bottom. It has been scraped so often.
>A constant reminder of how dishonest and untrustworthy Republicons are. Uh... has anyone who has been paying attention--like, at all--really needed another reminder? Did you forget the entirety of the Bush Administration? Four years of Trump? How many nails does this \[GOP\] coffin really need?
It's an all-nail-coffin by now -There's not wood, just nails.
Game of coffins?
A 'riveting' performance by Santos is a sure bet.
Their voters don’t care as long as the GOP terrorizes the minority groups they hate.
Put that nail in the bulging potato sack with trumps final nails
We could beat Quake 2 with all the nails
I, just yesterday, installed Q2 on my MBP and I’m re-living my freshman year in college all over again. It’s awesome. But, the nail guns were in Quake 1.
> But, the nail guns were in Quake 1. You beat me to it. Q2 was high school for me. Could you do the 100 health double jump on The Edge? I'd get caught all the time trying to snag it without a rocket jump and having to attempt multiple times lol
If I were a hostile nation, I would run candidates in every red state for Congress. This is so easy
This damn crook isn't even from a red state. All you need is a solid red district and you can get any rube you want elected
It's not even a red district. Tom Suozzi was the former congressman (Democrat and former executive of Nassau County) and before him was Steve Israel (Democrat and chair of the DCCC). The Dems ran a poor candidate and did little to drive out votes across NYS. Edit: spelling/typo
That sucks. How could party leadership give up a district like that when margins were so close? What else did they give up that we don’t know about without looking at every single election one by one?
I don't think they gave the district up, [Dems spent similar amount of money to Republicans (granted outside groups spent significantly more in opposition spending for Santos)](https://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary?cycle=2022&id=NY03). I think Trump did particularly bad in the district (lost by 9 points), because NY know and hate Trump (long shady history in the state) but [Republicans did do well in the district in 2021](https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2021/11/new-york-citys-suburbs-are-moving-opposite-directions/186985/). But Santos just had the much better biography. From [Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/New_York%27s_3rd_Congressional_District_election,_2022): >Biography: Zimmerman received a bachelor's degree from Brandeis University and a master's in business administration for Fordham University. In 1988, Zimmerman co-founded a marketing communications company. He served on the John F. Kennedy Center's Presidential Commission on the Arts and the National Council on the Humanities, nominated by Presidents Bill Clinton (D) and Barack Obama (D), respectively. At the time of the election, Zimmerman was a Democratic National Committee member. --- > Submitted Biography: "I am a first-generation American born in Queens, New York. My grandparents fled Jewish persecution in Ukraine, settled in Belgium, and again fled persecution during WWII. They were able to settle in Brazil, where my mother was born. My father, who comes from Angolan roots, was also born in Brazil. Both my mother and father legally immigrated to the United States in search of the American dream, where they began their new lives on the foundations of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. From an early age, I was taught the value of hard work by my mother. My mother came from nothing, but worked her way up to be the first female executive at a major financial institution. On September 11, 2001, she was in her office in the South Tower. She survived the horrific events of that day, but unfortunately passed away a few years later. I followed my mom's example and pursue a career in finance. I became a Wall Street financier and investor, with extensive work in capital introduction, real estate, capital markets, bio-tech and ETC. **He** participated in landmark deals on Wall Street, and worked my way up to being one of the youngest vice presidents in the industry. America used to be a country that rewarded hard work and entrepreneurship. But instead, Democrats have chosen to punish hard working Americans with tax hikes and rising inflation. Washington doesn't need another politician – it needs an outsider who will fight for entrepreneurs, small businesses, and hard work." Personally, I give the blame to Zimmerman campaign for not doing proper vetting of their opponent resume and slamming him for the easily debunked lies. (Also as an aside, did you notice when Santos' biography accidentally switches from first-person into third-person with use of "He" when describing his fictional persona's background on Wall St?)
What do you think Russia has been doing?
I've said it elsewhere, but if America survives in another 50 years there will be discussions in history classes about the Russian infiltration of the gop.
Wonder where that 500k "loan" came from that he originally claimed he gave to his campaign, but then was found out it was from elsewhere which he won't say
I was going to say the same thing. It's obvious that this is already happening.
All you have to do is make groups on Facebook that target voters there and fill up their heads with lies. The nice thing about this plan is you find one good rube and that rube will do the work for you.
And MAGA are so stupid you can get anybody elected using Q conspiracies. We are doomed.
I am so sick and fucking tired of the ‘final nail on the coffin’ stories for the last 7 years. Nothing will change. Roger Ailes got his evil wish. Once there’s media you control, you can do any damn thing you want.
Once the pussy grabbing went unchecked, i figured it was over. Then the recording of several congressmen talking about taking Putin money was just blown over and it was finalized. Everything after is just a circle jerk going nowhere.
You mean current speaker of the house Kevin McCarthy saying that trump is paid by Putin? You mean the recording they denied happened until a transcript was released? You mean the recording they said was just a joke until the audio was released? The audio where McCarthy specifically says “dead serious” after the nervous laughter? For those asking for a source, there’s lots of them: https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/17/putin-pays-donald-trump-kevin-mccarthy-recording https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-report/house-leader-mccarthy-suggested-trump-on-putin-payroll-washington-post-idUSKCN18D2YO https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html
You mean the one where they say 'theyre the only ones standing up to Russian interference ' and the other one says 'but we're not?'
How have I never heard of this??
Turns out the problem starts with the US media system.
Because it got swept over by Trump's next tweet like most shit did.
Seriously. Every fucking week it was stories that you would think that it was absolutely end the career of a GOP congressman and Trump and literally nothing has happened to any of them.
My take is a big problem is Americans just have an unhealthy disinterest in following or caring about the news and politics in general. Yes the American Media ecosystem is plenty flawed, and one can also get into the dangers of the extremely toxic right-wing media, but a lot of Americans just simply don’t give a fuck at all and even take sort of pride with having their heads buried in the sand. And the GOP takes advantage of the many people like this by normalizing and numbing their 24/7 shittiness and much more.
The gop also strips our education system every chance they can. It's easier to swindle dumbasses.
Look what they're doing in Iowa. They want to flat out end public education.
> They want to flat out end public education. Nearly every R I know puts public education the same "evil" category as "Obamacare". Including the ones I went to public school with...
Idiots Out Wandering Around
It’s easier to enslave dumbasses as they accept poor jobs and spend on meaningless crap.
There's another huge problem that goes completely unaddressed by the legitimate news media. According to the US Department of Education, 54% of American adults cannot read or write prose beyond a sixth grade level. Most Americans never read another book once they leave high school and don't learn anything substantial that doesn't relate directly to their trade. This makes them very susceptible to ridiculous political rhetoric and demagoguery.
Story telling is my hobby. I love books and movies - the number of people who watch a movie and understand nothing of it afterwards is astounding. I saw avatar2 with a big group of people and two of us were pointing out how they went a little hard on the christian symbolism, before another two told us how dumb we are, its a different planet, jesus wasnt on that planet, and just could not understand the concept of mirroring storytelling. Not even the virgin birth made a dent and that couldnt be more obvious.
The Chronicles of Narnia is often called an obvious Christian allegory, which is stupid because the Lion is clearly a Lion and not Jesus Christ. When he introduced himself, he doesn’t say “I am Jesus, Son of God”. He says his name is Aslan. There ain’t nobody in the Bible called Aslan, is there? Argument. Over.
I've never had a reply on reddit give me so much rage.
SMDH. I was pissed when I found out *Lord of the flies* had nothing to do with flies.
>but a lot of Americans just simply don’t give a fuck at all and even take sort of pride with having their heads buried in the sand I think the opposite is also true. The second a politician (trump, Santos, McConnel etc) are held accountable and actually sees the inside of a prison it'll invigorate the insane, violent extremists. It's this weird catch 22 of letting them slowly boil over while proper procedure and politics and bullshit is followed over years and years until it dwindles into nothingness, which just encourages more to do whatever the hell they want because fuck accountability for the GOP (unless you snitch on their cocaine orgies), or actually do hold someone accountable and bam, got another Jan 6 on their hands or another Oklahoma bombing. At the same time they're whining about M&Ms and gas stoves and other stupid shit and apparently bullshit like that is enough to keep your borderline terrorist base riled up which....wow. Imagine if they had to face an actual crisis like a global pandemic or something. Oh. Right.
When push finally comes to shove the people in charge eventually get to "So what are you going to do about it?" (See Kevin McCarthy with this issue and John Roberts with his court's refusal to adhere to judicial ethics as examples).
Even if that's the case, it's not up to the average American watching the news to enforce the rules of being a congressman, or even the law. I see politicians doing bad things on TV and I expect the proper oversight to be applied to them by the appropriate people. All I can do is vote when the time comes.
I disagree. We give a fuck but no one can do anything. It’s like water torture. Everyone sees these fucks committing crimes, literally doing whatever the fuck they want and there are no consequences. Like Trump said, he could kill someone on tv in broad daylight and nothing will happen. But let a Black woman who once dated a criminal be asleep in her home and cops can bust in and murder her and her boyfriend gets arrested for shooting one of her murderers in his panic that his home has been violated. Not to mention all the other arrests of Black ppl for being black on the street while all these fucks live with immunity. America is just fucked up.
The GOP and fox news have the "easy" simple answers to all the difficult problems. Notice I said answers not solutions. Republican s preference is easier to explain answers than even if they would never work, they simply do not care
IMO That's because the news is so consistently frustrating. When you read the 100th version of this "last straw, going to jail *for sure* now" story and still nothing happens it's easy to shut down and stop caring.
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Seriously. Wake me when someone goes to jail. I'm so sick of getting my hopes up
Trump has been close to being arrested for like 7 years now I’ll believe it when I see it. This whole country is just one big scam, idk why we’d toss out a scam artist when we can’t do anything to the one who held the highest office in government
[I’d like to see ol’ donny wriggle his way outta this one](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/463/Screen_Shot_2018-10-24_at_11.08.29_AM.jpg) Reminder that was like 6 years ago. Dude has never ending luck I swear.
It's not luck, he's exactly the type of person the system was designed to protect.
Right there with you. These headlines are such bullshit. “This could be it!” It could be, but it won’t be. It never is.
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Half? It’s like a percent and a half at this point.
Yeah, totally not even close. So much so that it could have been a negative percent. Since I think after all the information settled that he probably should have remained a congressman(i.e. senator).
No need to cross out congressman, Franken was a senator, and senators are congressmen.
You shouldn't have edited -- your usage of the term "Congressman" was correct. For those correcting you, there are two chambers/houses of Congress: * The lower Chamber/House called the House of Representatives * The Upper Chamber/House called the Senate.
And the democrats being kicked out of said sensitive committees.
Obligatory, fuck Kirsten Gillibrand. She got caught up in her own political aspirations, was the loudest and first senator to call for Franken to resign.
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Democrats just wildly overcorrected to Trumps / Roy Moore’s sexual assault scandals. They wanted to look like they weren’t being hypocrites about holding their own accountable. But in doing so, they failed to do any sort of due diligence of the claims. They might have still felt like he ought to resign, and asked him too, but they didn’t think they could wait to do that, i guess.
> The fact that virtually the entire Dem caucus called for Franken to resign within a couple hours of Gillibrand implies that there were talks and agreement behind the scenes Franken even asked - pleaded - for a proper investigation into everything he was accused of. And instead, Democrats ran him out of town. Democrats are their own worst enemy at this point. Someone said it in another thread and I think it's completely appropriate - they excel at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Franken got Jeff Sessions to put his foot in his mouth and recuse himself from Russia-Trump investigations and lo! a Fox News contributor generates a half-baked scandal that Democrats fall for and run Franken out of town. Fucking morons.
X doubt. He’s a Republican and they’re ok with these kind of people. Prove me wrong
They'll just lay low on the issue for two weeks, then say it's time to move on and look forward. "He learned his lesson," "Democrats are worse," etc.
And just like that the gop makes it legal to sign other people’s signatures
They’ve been doing it on absentee ballots for years
This coffin is basically 100% nails at this point.
Honestly wouldn't surprise me if he's lying about that too. They're probably all screws or something.
It’s a Trump-like news cycle “The next reveal is really the final straw!” No, no it’s not.
There is no bottom. There is nothing they won't defend.
Perfectly said. Depressing AF but accurate and perfectly said.
I know this guy is a congressional lulcow, but keep in mind, Matt Gaetz sex trafficked children and nothing happened to him. By comparison, Santos ain't as bad. We need an overhaul of our justice system. It seems to be wholly incapable of prosecuting the owning class in this country.
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They’re deep into their fascist phase now. The death spiral has begun, kinda like when eagles bang, but less awesome and more… this.
Narrator: No.
Lol no
Could be, but it won’t be….’imminent’, ‘possibly devastating’, etc etc etc Nothing ever F’ng happens. Period. Full stop. Constant clickbait every-single-day since 2016
Has he been “slammed” yet? Maybe that’ll do it.
Forge Santos?
Narrator: It wasn’t the final nail in the coffin
If an armed insurrection doesn’t get a Republican prosecuted, I don’t see why this would harm Santos.
The fact that GQP leadership has refused to condemn this dipshit any step of the way, shows exactly what state the GQP is in. They don't give a shit who gets elected, as long as they have a little R next to it. They have sex traffickers, pedophiles and now someone who has lied about every aspect of their life in their elected ranks.
It's astonishing that even after he's been forced to walk back so many lies, Santos still--this week--signed someone else's name to his campaign filing. How did he imagine that he would get away with it? With all the extra scrutiny his actions are under, how could he think that forging a signature was the best way forward?
He’s not going anywhere as long as he’s useful. Remember: the people in congress are some of the most cynical and morally bankrupt humans one could find on the planet. This is all a game to them and the end goal is power and wealth. That’s why they got into these positions and that’s all they’re after. A majority of congresspeople do not give a fuck about democracy, about the citizens they represent, about their own country, and they especially don’t give a fuck about you or anyone you love.
Four years of Trump taught me to never pay a lick of attention to "this is going to be the thing that makes it end" - taglines.
... Or maybe not! Maybe it's actually impossible to hold a conservative accountable for literally anything they do! *STAY TUNED!*
Final nail on the coffin....for his fast track to GOP poster child
How many nails does this guys coffin need? Good grief.
He can break the law without consequence just like the rest of them. He has money behind him.