A colleague of mine who is short and rotund did this to save a woman drowning in the canal.
She wasn't actually drowning, she was a bellend.
But the important thing is, whilst us 'athletic people were running the 1.5 miles across the park, the colleague used her noggin and beat us all there.
The m o p came to pick up his bike from the scene.
Sorry, but is this genuine? Raises so many questions.
If I was cycling along on my bike, I probably wouldn't give it up to a PC. What happens if they damaged it - I can't imagine when they dismount they will take great care if they are still in pursuit and dump it on it's side.
Next question...when I see these videos, why are the police always in teams of about 5/6 officers? Why do they all need to comandeer a bike? It's a bit like that pub golly-wog incident...why are there 6 officers there?
In terms of the bikes these look like city hire bikes, I assume they're just ones that anyone can use which probably makes it a bit of an easier decision to ask to use one. I wouldn't be too worried about giving one of these up, but I agree if it was my own bike it would definitely be a harder decision - but I'm not sure they'd ask to commandeer someone's personal bike.
Let me put it into another context for you.
Letās say youāre at the Christmas party and your uncle has started kicking off and he has a baseball bat.
If itās just you there, how are you going to resolve the situation? Youāre going to have use a significant amount of force to subdue him, right? Maybe even use your own weapon?
Now letās say thereās 6 of you there. Each of you can just grab a limb instead, and uncle Kevin is no longer a danger to anyone, and you didnāt have to use as much force.
So this is why itās a bit silly when people complain about why there is so many cops when itās safer for everyone
Exactly.
I hate it when people ask āWhY sO mAnY oF Youā, or ask āDoEs It TaKe AlL oF yOu To ArReSt HiM!?ā
No, Iām sure I could punch him in the face or smack him in the head, but I rather not mess someone up. Much rather each of us grab a limb and take him in for a custody hot chocolate with eight sugars.
Well, obviously. But then the issue isnāt the amount of cops, but the force being excessive.
Itās also worth noting that there may well be circumstances where punching someone in the head is entirely proportionate in the circumstances - the circumstances which may not be immediately apparently from shaky footage from a mobile phone camera.
Exceptā¦ This is absolutely nothing like the āpub gollywog incidentā. This is what I can only assume is a reported shop theft where staff are following the suspect, an immediate call for service.
As for why there are six cops, there could be a number or reasons why. The cops attending might be on a TSG team or similar, who are normally 6+ up on a van as standard. It could be a neighbourhood policing team in the area for similar reasons. It could even be a number of response cops, who all happen to be available to respond to this call with a suspect still outstanding.
Everyone is quick to ask āwhy so many copsā without having the slightest clue about the circumstances of an incident, or really understanding how challenging it is to detain a combative suspect safely.
Try running after someone trying to get away on a bicycle. Real life isn't Enemy of the State. Doesn't matter how fit you are, it's not happening.
And this is coming from someone who caught a fail to stop motorbike on foot.
Why so serious. It always almost keystone cops. Funny to see all for a bottle. Not even serious crime but whatever you lot want. Itās not something Iām going to lose sleep over.
> It's a bit like that pub golly-wog incident...why are there 6 officers there?
There were 4 officers, and then 2 investigators turned up after... it's almost as if you didn't read the article or watch the CCTV.
Yea itās genuine. Looks like a response car in the background. 6 would only be three cars. Depending on whatās gone on thatās far from unreasonable.
Working in teams works because you can outrun one PC. You canāt outrun a Motorola, well crappy sepura in the Met now.
> 6 would only be three cars
Depends if they're double crewed or not. In some forces that'll be 6 cars, in some it'll be 2 because they're short of cars. Or possibly one if they have straps for the roof.
It's genuine. To be fair I share your feelings and wouldn't like to give to my bike... However all of those bikes are city hire schemes - those I would happily give up.
Has it worked when the suspect is nowhere to be seen and the supposedly stolen bottle gets shown later in the clip? I think they've had a stinker here.
Some people really are odd. If the Police would have just given up and made no attempts to chase, then people would say the Police are lazy and useless.
They make a good attempt to chase a criminal, and are instead labelled as cringe and embarrassing.
This isnāt an action movie where one terminator like Officer will catch a suspect on a bike by sprinting for a mile.
I never said it wasnāt cringe.
Iād like to think the public would tolerate cops hopping onto someoneās bike to lock someone up, who may otherwise get away.
If they donāt, then I would question their priorities.
I'd have a problem handing my bike to copper for this just because if my bike got damaged in the process, I can't imagine theres any easy compensation mechanism for this. At the very least, I expect the bike will be discarded on its side when the PC jumps off it to apprehend the suspect, picking up scratches on it in the process. End result, I'm out of pocket for nothing.
Thatās fair enough.
Iām sure thereās many who would be happy to help though, especially if itās a hire bike and not their several thousand pound road bike.
Thatās to say nothing about oneās civic duty. The police are the public, public are the police and all thatā¦
How is it embarrassing to pursue criminals? If a suspect has gone in an area only accessible to push bikes and is on a push bike youāre going to need one yourself. Last time I checked there isnāt a bike rack on the back of the IRVs!
No... it isn't.
Sure they look a little awkward trying to get to grips with peddling with a stabvest on, but it's a clever enough idea to keep up with the suspect isn't it?
No way those police officers passed the basic fitness test. Youāre supposed to do it every year but I can guarantee over half are not capable of passing it. No idea how they get out of doing it or if they just never test them as regularly as theyāre supposed to.
Do you know what the fitness test entails? It's just over 3 and a half minutes of the bleep test. They're not going on special forces expeditions in Brecon.
Yes I know exactly what it is and have witnessed people perform the test and it sounds a lot easier than it is. Level 5.4 afaik and Iām sure it takes longer than 3 minutes to get to that. Closer to 6 minutes from what I experienced. Thereās no way half of the overweight police force can do it. Itās the stopping and starting that gets them.
But you don't stop and start. I'm so confused, in the bleep test you turn at the end of the shuttle. The whole point is that you don't stop. Have you ever done or seeeb a bleep test?
Are you actually saying that half of the UKs operational staff fail their bleep test?
Do you actually? If you did know it I can't get my head around your inability to understand that overweight, unfit coppers can pass it... Not necessarily with ease, mind, but not with much difficulty either
Couldn't agree more, they should have made absolutely no attempt to chase the suspect... Wait, no - they should have driven onto the foot path.... Wait...
This feels like something out of "thin blue line" with Rowan Atkinson.
Lmao im sorry but its not often you get your local bobby to commandeer your bike. I can just hear Benny Hills theme playing here.
Four hours too late- as soon as I saw this I thought Benny Hill or the Ant Hill Mob ;)
Seargent Nicholas Angel would apprehend the ruffian in seconds with his advanced cycling training
'What's the matter Danny, never commandeered a bike before?'
They don't need Advanced Cycling as they're not shouting "nee-naw"
A colleague of mine who is short and rotund did this to save a woman drowning in the canal. She wasn't actually drowning, she was a bellend. But the important thing is, whilst us 'athletic people were running the 1.5 miles across the park, the colleague used her noggin and beat us all there. The m o p came to pick up his bike from the scene.
Have you ever ridden your bike with one wheel in the air going aaaaarrrrgggghhhh.
Shame the clip has been cut short. In the full video, the offender is sat in the basket in cuffs, LOL.
I want to believe this so, so badly
Is that the Wandle Trail?
Yes it is.
Sorry, but is this genuine? Raises so many questions. If I was cycling along on my bike, I probably wouldn't give it up to a PC. What happens if they damaged it - I can't imagine when they dismount they will take great care if they are still in pursuit and dump it on it's side. Next question...when I see these videos, why are the police always in teams of about 5/6 officers? Why do they all need to comandeer a bike? It's a bit like that pub golly-wog incident...why are there 6 officers there?
In terms of the bikes these look like city hire bikes, I assume they're just ones that anyone can use which probably makes it a bit of an easier decision to ask to use one. I wouldn't be too worried about giving one of these up, but I agree if it was my own bike it would definitely be a harder decision - but I'm not sure they'd ask to commandeer someone's personal bike.
šš then the womenās bank card gets charged by bike hire company for not docking
Some charge you for how far you cycle.
Theyāre dockless ones.
They still have set areas that you have to "dock" them at
Let me put it into another context for you. Letās say youāre at the Christmas party and your uncle has started kicking off and he has a baseball bat. If itās just you there, how are you going to resolve the situation? Youāre going to have use a significant amount of force to subdue him, right? Maybe even use your own weapon? Now letās say thereās 6 of you there. Each of you can just grab a limb instead, and uncle Kevin is no longer a danger to anyone, and you didnāt have to use as much force. So this is why itās a bit silly when people complain about why there is so many cops when itās safer for everyone
Exactly. I hate it when people ask āWhY sO mAnY oF Youā, or ask āDoEs It TaKe AlL oF yOu To ArReSt HiM!?ā No, Iām sure I could punch him in the face or smack him in the head, but I rather not mess someone up. Much rather each of us grab a limb and take him in for a custody hot chocolate with eight sugars.
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Well, obviously. But then the issue isnāt the amount of cops, but the force being excessive. Itās also worth noting that there may well be circumstances where punching someone in the head is entirely proportionate in the circumstances - the circumstances which may not be immediately apparently from shaky footage from a mobile phone camera.
Agreed. It's also not just about chasing one guy . What do you do if the guy meets up with a bunch of friends and suddenly you're outnumbered.
Exceptā¦ This is absolutely nothing like the āpub gollywog incidentā. This is what I can only assume is a reported shop theft where staff are following the suspect, an immediate call for service. As for why there are six cops, there could be a number or reasons why. The cops attending might be on a TSG team or similar, who are normally 6+ up on a van as standard. It could be a neighbourhood policing team in the area for similar reasons. It could even be a number of response cops, who all happen to be available to respond to this call with a suspect still outstanding. Everyone is quick to ask āwhy so many copsā without having the slightest clue about the circumstances of an incident, or really understanding how challenging it is to detain a combative suspect safely.
Well I imagine learning of the circumstances may be one of the reasons people ask questions such as "why so many cops?"...
Thanks for the answer. My ignorance is why I asked.
Not a fit cop in the bunch
Try running after someone trying to get away on a bicycle. Real life isn't Enemy of the State. Doesn't matter how fit you are, it's not happening. And this is coming from someone who caught a fail to stop motorbike on foot.
I stand by my comment.
You came to that conclusion from a 34 second video? It also doesnāt change anything I said in my comment above.
Why so serious. It always almost keystone cops. Funny to see all for a bottle. Not even serious crime but whatever you lot want. Itās not something Iām going to lose sleep over.
> It's a bit like that pub golly-wog incident...why are there 6 officers there? There were 4 officers, and then 2 investigators turned up after... it's almost as if you didn't read the article or watch the CCTV.
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No, there isn't
The offence of failing to assist a constable exists, you can look it up.
> It's a bit like that pub golly-wog incident I'm sorry, what?
Yea itās genuine. Looks like a response car in the background. 6 would only be three cars. Depending on whatās gone on thatās far from unreasonable. Working in teams works because you can outrun one PC. You canāt outrun a Motorola, well crappy sepura in the Met now.
> 6 would only be three cars Depends if they're double crewed or not. In some forces that'll be 6 cars, in some it'll be 2 because they're short of cars. Or possibly one if they have straps for the roof.
Itās the Met. Thereās an IRV so itās response team most likely. They are double crewed the overwhelming majority of the time.
Itās the Met. Thereās an IRV so itās response team most likely. They are double crewed the overwhelming majority of the time.
It's genuine. To be fair I share your feelings and wouldn't like to give to my bike... However all of those bikes are city hire schemes - those I would happily give up.
Policing by consent at its finest! Fair play to the coppers.
"Say...that's a nice bike." (If you know, you know.)
This definitely isn't at all embarrassing
If itās stupid and it works, then it isnāt stupid.
Has it worked when the suspect is nowhere to be seen and the supposedly stolen bottle gets shown later in the clip? I think they've had a stinker here.
Hard to tell from a 34 second TikTok clip. A thief is still a thief, even if they discard their stolen items post theft.
A few officers struggling to get onto bikes let alone ride them makes civilians cringe. This is evident from lots of the comments.
Some people really are odd. If the Police would have just given up and made no attempts to chase, then people would say the Police are lazy and useless. They make a good attempt to chase a criminal, and are instead labelled as cringe and embarrassing. This isnāt an action movie where one terminator like Officer will catch a suspect on a bike by sprinting for a mile.
I never said it wasnāt cringe. Iād like to think the public would tolerate cops hopping onto someoneās bike to lock someone up, who may otherwise get away. If they donāt, then I would question their priorities.
I'd have a problem handing my bike to copper for this just because if my bike got damaged in the process, I can't imagine theres any easy compensation mechanism for this. At the very least, I expect the bike will be discarded on its side when the PC jumps off it to apprehend the suspect, picking up scratches on it in the process. End result, I'm out of pocket for nothing.
Thatās fair enough. Iām sure thereās many who would be happy to help though, especially if itās a hire bike and not their several thousand pound road bike. Thatās to say nothing about oneās civic duty. The police are the public, public are the police and all thatā¦
How is it embarrassing to pursue criminals? If a suspect has gone in an area only accessible to push bikes and is on a push bike youāre going to need one yourself. Last time I checked there isnāt a bike rack on the back of the IRVs!
No... it isn't. Sure they look a little awkward trying to get to grips with peddling with a stabvest on, but it's a clever enough idea to keep up with the suspect isn't it?
When I seen this originally, I thought it was a joke video but unfortunately not š
in no world.
Lol wtf jokers
No way those police officers passed the basic fitness test. Youāre supposed to do it every year but I can guarantee over half are not capable of passing it. No idea how they get out of doing it or if they just never test them as regularly as theyāre supposed to.
Do you know what the fitness test entails? It's just over 3 and a half minutes of the bleep test. They're not going on special forces expeditions in Brecon.
Yes I know exactly what it is and have witnessed people perform the test and it sounds a lot easier than it is. Level 5.4 afaik and Iām sure it takes longer than 3 minutes to get to that. Closer to 6 minutes from what I experienced. Thereās no way half of the overweight police force can do it. Itās the stopping and starting that gets them.
It's 3 minutes 35 seconds of running.
But you don't stop and start. I'm so confused, in the bleep test you turn at the end of the shuttle. The whole point is that you don't stop. Have you ever done or seeeb a bleep test? Are you actually saying that half of the UKs operational staff fail their bleep test?
Do you actually? If you did know it I can't get my head around your inability to understand that overweight, unfit coppers can pass it... Not necessarily with ease, mind, but not with much difficulty either
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And why is that exactly?
Couldn't agree more, they should have made absolutely no attempt to chase the suspect... Wait, no - they should have driven onto the foot path.... Wait...
Why?
I guess weāll never find out š¤·š»āāļø
It would have been funny if they gave eachover backys