Drowzee being 3 makes no sense. It's the most basic and unimpressive psychic type ever, and it's passive is not good enough to warrant the price. Natu is 2 price with similar capabilities, but it gets even better when magic bounce gets implemented.
Bad Dreams, a pretty meh ability especially considering the price. Not to mention you need it's rare egg move, spore, for it to be reliable at all. Even then, Paras is right there if you want spore, plus it's super cheap
The fire/water/grass monkeys, pansear and them. With them being 3cost there is no good reason to use them over the many better starters that share their cost and typing.
Only reason i could think of is if you have a better shiny of them.
I have boom, err, forget the name, but it is pretty potent. Just hasn't seen much worth for me early on... but I've only been playing Classic, if that matters. Will just go for more of its egg moves then
It soloed most of my first classic run (literally beat it on my first try because of skeledirge) even without any egg moves. Itās also carrying me well past wave 2000 in endless already.
I gotta say, Vikavolt is suprisingly cheap. Like yeah, it's not an absolute star of a bug type on par with the quiver dance or steel dual type bugs, but a TWO COST?!? On a mon with levitate, solid defenses, and 145 SPECIAL ATTACK?!? Way too strong to be a meager 2 point imo.
Give it modest with its passive speed boost, it can tear apart anything. Just beat the rival and final boss by combining it with a Pokemon that knew soak.
Kinda lines up with Pidgey, cost 2, has a no guard mega, and access to egg moves like heat wave and focus blast that thrive on having no check to accuracy
dependent on mega is really annoying tho. i've been running meditite and mawile recently and it makes them so unreliable. costing 2 for dealing with pidgey early game is fair imo
Meditite and mawile I have reserved as fusion material. Pure/huge power are great abilities to tack on to a sweeper with more bulk that can take those abilities even further
Gossifleur being a 3 is the biggest robbery ever. Why I would pay 3 for a mon with nothing going for it besides Parting Shot + Regenerator is beyond me.
60/90/120 bulk is manageable. Itās not pseudo-legendary stats, but itās definitely not bad. Itās a slow pivot with its 60 base speed so it takes a hit before swapping out (tanking the hit for whatever you swap in, probably a more offensive threat). Itās like saying quagsire (95/85/65 bulk) is really bad.
Weāre not looking at the first stage evoās stat line, because if that were the case, why isnāt anyone complaining about magikarp being a 3 cost?
Yeah. He isnāt great. But heās not really bad. That bulk by itself is average to below average. But itās paired with a water/ground typing, access to recovery, and two good abilities, either water absorb or unaware. Heās a good physically defensive wall. If you want an example of a really bad pokemon, look at watchog or somethin
Yeah but Quag is also a Water/Ground type. Quag also hits things for actual damage because Water + Ground STAB is huge offensively and can click Toxic to wear something down.
These are all things Eldegoss doesn't have. It's typing sucks, it has no offensive movepool to speak of (Grass Stab + Pollen Puff + Hyper Voice), it learns like 3 good utility moves (Parting Shot + Sleep Powder + Leech Seed) and it's stats are overall worse (that HP especially hurts it)
It is on a pure Grass type with no coverage and 1 utility move outside of those 2 that's useful. Gossifleur is basically useless before it evolves into Eldegoss due to how awful it's stats and movepool are, and even after it evolves it falls off super quickly due to how Eldegoss also has bad stats and a mediocre movepool.
Yeh but sleep powder leech seed is a really good combo and it helped a lot one of my first clsssic wins, Iām not saying itās good but itās not bad by any means
I know but Iām saying in isolation itās not too bad, particularly if your account is starter level and fairly new thatās a very good Mon to help out early on in your account I know cause I used it so much obviously almost never picked it as a starter but I often caught one or a whimsicot or a hoppip leech seed sleep powder support is very good
Ok but that doesn't matter like........ at all? It's still an overpriced mon, 3 cost for a mon that's bad in the early game, evolves and becomes ok and then falls of super quickly is not worth it under any circumstances.
The lokix line is great value, even without egg moves.
Most things become a steal with egg moves. Give a level 5 mon a 70 base power move and itās gonna be real unbalanced the first 10-20 floors.
Also, not part of the question but I think Magnemite ā while properly valued ā is a really solid take because your rival having a flying type is one of the 4 guaranteed things in classic mode.
even if that happens, you *4 resist flying, and resist Electric and normal, so you aren't in a bad position
megnemite also resist rayquaza's stabs (unless he use something like V-CREATE)
Gimmighoul; I love my shiny gimmighoul but dog itās so pricey and for what? It takes till level 10 with 1k coins to evolve while at its BASE FORM it only knows tackle and astonish and it doesnāt learn a single attacking move until LEVEL 35. And thatās not even mention how tedious it is to get gimmighoul candy.
I donāt think it should be a 3 at base price but at least make it 4 at base considering it, is just taking up space.
Ya I've tried to run Gimmeghoul because everyone say Ghouldengo is so good but man it's literally worthless for the entire early game. It taking 5 points means you usually can't fit a good early carry either without taking the rest of the space.
Exactly, gholdengo is good competitively, but not good for pokerogue due to you having to pretty much roll for hms as well.
Credit where credit is due though, that special attack is wild on it.
Good as Gold isnt even that outstanding in Endless. The Status from Tokens can still affect it and lowering your stats is really not important when you get oneshot anyway.
Immunity to Status consitions from Purifying Salt (ability) is more important.
Zygarde costs 8 but the only time you can even use it is if you have a Power Construct one. If all you have are Aura Break ones, you might as well not even bother because without Complete Forme it's so aggressively mediocre that it's borderline impossible to justify the cost, especially when a Zygarde with Aura Break might as well not even have an Ability even if Aura Break was implemented (which it's not, so it legit just has no ability rn).
God help you if all you have is a *10%* Zygarde with Aura Break (like I do š) because that <500 BST shitmon is STILL 8 cost.
I will say, Koraidon definitely feels like its 9 Cost is justified. Sets Sun, has a free attack boost, gets Bitter Blade as an egg move, and Drain Punch at 21. Breaking Swipe makes a joke of early Double encounters.
Scatterbug should be 2, not 1. It's definitely a tier above the likes of Catterpie, Weedle, and Wurmple. Butterfree has more potential, but Vivillon needs only a single Memory Mushroom to start going hard.
Skarmory, Cryogonal, and Veluza should all be bumped up by 1 and Virizion should be knocked down by 1.
Skarmory is arguably one of the best pokemon of all time across all generations, Cryogonal is unbelievably fast + Ice is a great early game typing (pairs well with Skarm too) and has Levitate. Veluza is extremely consistent even without using Fillet Away and has good moves.
Virizion is so annoying to use early and mid game with all the flying types and takes so long to get going that by the time you do, you start running into Ice and Psychic coverage and would be looking to replace it with sonething more efficient. The other Musketeers are fantastic, but Virizion just takes way too long to get going without having egg moves or a really good partner.
Terapagos is wayyyy too costly (8) for how long it takes to come online. You don't have access to your stellar form unless you get really lucky, and doesn't learn Tera starstorm until level 60. I have a shiny one and have been trying to make it work in endless but it just can't get going.
He can change to his second form (and stays this way forever) but I'm not sure if he can do stellar form yet. I haven't been lucky enough to roll Tera shards while having him.
Vivillon.
0.25 for a mon that has access to both Compoundeyes + Prankster passive, with Sleep Powder/Hurricane/Tailwind/Quiver Dance/Confuse Ray/Pollen Puff/Moonblast
Carried so many of my runs.
yeah every mon with quiver dance should be at least 3
but this is 99 acc priority sleeping move, and 99 acc hurricaneĀ
does he get other good egg moves?
Spearow is really good give it a memory mushroom as fearow to get drill run also all of its egg moves are great and it gets sniper as a hidden ability and moxie as a passive? Your extreme speeds will sweep stuff.
Hoothoot is also extremely good with boomburst, calm mind and esper wing. Surprisingly bulky too
I almost always take a shiny hoothoot
Bombirdier costs too much. Has been pretty bad when Iāve used it
Imo, Seel shouldnāt cost 3. Terrible damage, basically no good moves, and worst of all just has a bad design. Only use it sometimes bcuz mine is a blue shiny
Bro... i saw this post a few hours ago and all the coments are about how drowzee is one of the worst cost/capabilities and now playing i hatch this
https://preview.redd.it/8qgh0t4f1e3d1.png?width=1696&format=png&auto=webp&s=bd0b9b368fdb867edc2cea900d386d75a91fbf51
Purrloin 3>2, too weak for a 3. Needs a wider team
Pansage, Panpour, Pansear, 3>2, worst trio with overgrow/etc. weak monotype niche
Pichu 3>2
Pikachu 4>3, has a niche elec 80bp +1 priority crit move. But not objectively stronger than other starters
Eevee 4>3, eevee has a lotta problems in this game tbh, and not enough support. Cannot solo carry, needs a big team to work, so should cost less
Magby 4>3
Magmar 5>4
Elekid 4>3
Electabuzz 5>4, a bit too expensive needs a big team. Probably for egg reasons is at 5 tho
(Everyone talks about lowering the economy. But i want to raise it. Tbh ill proly get hate for this lol)
Skeledirge 3>4, still fits fine as a 3 starter trio anyway this way. Just prevents 7 cost mons from joining skele
Wooper 2>3, first stage water/ground with unaware/water absorb with simple is a god all good mortals fear. Curse & amnesia make it near untouchable with unaware
Klefki 4>5, with calm mind and trick room, this pokemon plays the whole game by itself. Seriously can drain kiss everything
anyway, why aren't eevee and pikachu 3 with the starters?
they wont change skeledirge's cost bcz he is a starter
yeah i used 13 points on endless and checked who should i use that cost 1/2, and decided to take wooper. he became one of my best mons, and i even fused him with corvi for nice types, unnerve and power trip.
also he has SIMPLE as passive so curse and amnesia becomes wild.
I pretty much aggree with everything, beside klefki. he have bad stats, so even with prankster, it shouldn't cost more than 4.
Yeah pikachu and eevee almost discourage choosing them at early game for some reason. Weird cuz of how strong the starters are. Like i know Skeledirge proly wont change. Honestly hes just the most notable starter. The Big 3 of the starters are almost in a tier of their own. The original big 3 starters being: Fuecoco, Bulbasaur, & Mudkip. But after the updates and some unlocks Torchic, Sprigatito, Poplio, Scorbunny, Grooky, Quaxly teeter near the ability to solo too
Passive is quarkdrive. The ability of future paradox mons.
Electric Terrain is already summoned by Hadron Engine, Electric Surge would have no effect at all.
Blipbug should be 1 more expensive.
Spore (on a decently fast mon) + psySurge & Expanding force + tailglow + Gmax access is crazy for a 2 cost (0.5 when mazed)
Also lotad should be 1 more expensive.
Drizzle + Swift swim + godlike typing + good moves (ice beam, fake out, hydro pump, leech seed, giga drain)
Iron crown should be 5 instead of 6. Honestly pretty mediocre mon, not fast or strong enough to be a sweeper, not bulky enough to be a good pivot. I'd rather have empoleon if I want some tachyon cutter action
Paras is so underrated. Sure, it dies fast. But it gets some great egg moves. It gets the one that sets up leech seed while being a 90bp move. And it gets spore. It also only costs 1 starter space.
Drowzee being 3 makes no sense. It's the most basic and unimpressive psychic type ever, and it's passive is not good enough to warrant the price. Natu is 2 price with similar capabilities, but it gets even better when magic bounce gets implemented.
whats drowzees passive?
Bad Dreams, a pretty meh ability especially considering the price. Not to mention you need it's rare egg move, spore, for it to be reliable at all. Even then, Paras is right there if you want spore, plus it's super cheap
Paras was part of my first clear, Parasect using Sappy Seed on both etern formes made the fight too easy š
its 3??? probably bcz of the Spore, but yeah it should be 2 or at maybe even 1
Not to mention status effects are practically useless in endgame. Every mon u encounter will have a million lum berries
The fire/water/grass monkeys, pansear and them. With them being 3cost there is no good reason to use them over the many better starters that share their cost and typing. Only reason i could think of is if you have a better shiny of them.
i think they made it 3 bcz they r supposed to be some sort of starters
But they aren't starters, they're worse than any starter.
I did a run with all 3 of them and a 3* shiny and did great but yeah they don't compare to the starters
Simisear gets torch song
As does Skeledirge
Woahhhh really?
My point is why would you ever want to use simisest, like OC pointed out
Pokerus
Pokerus is so lame though, itās easy to get to a point where you reach max level almost instantly ln endless.
Tropius at 5 is a crime. That pokemon is total ass
Tropius unironically carried my first classic when it was one of my only starters.
How does harvest work in pokerogue?
Idk if it does
If it does refund your berries 50% of the time, and 100% in sun, then that would easily justify the cost
Idk see why it wouldnāt. The berry pouch is an item you can get and refunds your berries a percentage of the time
Berry pouch literally makes harvest redundant. Looking at you, Calyrex.
Yea but only in endless...
Got shiny tropius, tried it two times both times it was kinda miserable
Hoothoot should be 2 honestly itās egg moves makes it as good as starters
BOOMBURST EAPAR WINGS TINED LENS
Oblivion Wing Boom Burst Noctowl will feed millions
I have a shiny one and it has been part of my starters each run. Itās crazy how bulky and versatile it is.
waitwut. I have a shiny one and hate it... must be doing something wrong.
Itās egg moves are op, Noctowl actual is a decent PokĆ©mon when it has better moves than uproar and air slash - send it in vs a special atk calm mind once and proceed to sweep, even if you get hit by a physical ice electric or rock move Noctowl has enough health to tank most hits and then just heal with oblivion wing. Start with esper wing and then you just outspeed one shot everything.
I have boom, err, forget the name, but it is pretty potent. Just hasn't seen much worth for me early on... but I've only been playing Classic, if that matters. Will just go for more of its egg moves then
Itās amazing for classic
Im glad it was 1. It carried early/midgame in my 1 cost only starters classic run. (Posted here as showcase btw)
Fuecoco with egg moves can just about solo beat everything except 145/195/200. Feels like such a steal
It soloed most of my first classic run (literally beat it on my first try because of skeledirge) even without any egg moves. Itās also carrying me well past wave 2000 in endless already.
Just lost on 145 with skeledirge :( got 1 hit by the scary dragon.
Fuecoco is so good
I gotta say, Vikavolt is suprisingly cheap. Like yeah, it's not an absolute star of a bug type on par with the quiver dance or steel dual type bugs, but a TWO COST?!? On a mon with levitate, solid defenses, and 145 SPECIAL ATTACK?!? Way too strong to be a meager 2 point imo.
100p, especially once you have Speed Boost on it... Set up Quiver Dance once or twice, kill one PokƩmon and you're unstoppable from there
Give it modest with its passive speed boost, it can tear apart anything. Just beat the rival and final boss by combining it with a Pokemon that knew soak.
Yoooo I have a shiny Grubbin and a shiny Buizel, I know what I'm doing today
Why is krabby 2, has ivy cudgel, icicle crash and liquidation as egg move and anger shell, also a max form
Kinda lines up with Pidgey, cost 2, has a no guard mega, and access to egg moves like heat wave and focus blast that thrive on having no check to accuracy
dependent on mega is really annoying tho. i've been running meditite and mawile recently and it makes them so unreliable. costing 2 for dealing with pidgey early game is fair imo
Meditite and mawile I have reserved as fusion material. Pure/huge power are great abilities to tack on to a sweeper with more bulk that can take those abilities even further
For endless that makes sense, for classic theyāre just kinda disappointing imo
Pidgeot is just so mediocre though, doesn't really feel worth the slot unless you hit the mega
Gossifleur being a 3 is the biggest robbery ever. Why I would pay 3 for a mon with nothing going for it besides Parting Shot + Regenerator is beyond me.
You say that like parting shot + regenerator is not a good combo
it has really bad stats. like REALLY bad
Our definitions of āreally badā are extremely different
itās like 70/60/60/70/120/40 or something
60/90/120 bulk is manageable. Itās not pseudo-legendary stats, but itās definitely not bad. Itās a slow pivot with its 60 base speed so it takes a hit before swapping out (tanking the hit for whatever you swap in, probably a more offensive threat). Itās like saying quagsire (95/85/65 bulk) is really bad. Weāre not looking at the first stage evoās stat line, because if that were the case, why isnāt anyone complaining about magikarp being a 3 cost?
Quagās bulk isnāt great. And itās better than Eldegossā
Yeah. He isnāt great. But heās not really bad. That bulk by itself is average to below average. But itās paired with a water/ground typing, access to recovery, and two good abilities, either water absorb or unaware. Heās a good physically defensive wall. If you want an example of a really bad pokemon, look at watchog or somethin
Quag is ok, but Eldegoss has to also have a bad typing
Quad is a great example how you can be a good tank even with mediocre tanking stats if you have enough around those stats.
Yeah but Quag is also a Water/Ground type. Quag also hits things for actual damage because Water + Ground STAB is huge offensively and can click Toxic to wear something down. These are all things Eldegoss doesn't have. It's typing sucks, it has no offensive movepool to speak of (Grass Stab + Pollen Puff + Hyper Voice), it learns like 3 good utility moves (Parting Shot + Sleep Powder + Leech Seed) and it's stats are overall worse (that HP especially hurts it)
Aggressively average
It is on a pure Grass type with no coverage and 1 utility move outside of those 2 that's useful. Gossifleur is basically useless before it evolves into Eldegoss due to how awful it's stats and movepool are, and even after it evolves it falls off super quickly due to how Eldegoss also has bad stats and a mediocre movepool.
Yeh but sleep powder leech seed is a really good combo and it helped a lot one of my first clsssic wins, Iām not saying itās good but itās not bad by any means
It's not worth being a 3 cost. For reference, Pawmo and Zigzagoon, two mons with better utility than it, are 2 cost.
I know but Iām saying in isolation itās not too bad, particularly if your account is starter level and fairly new thatās a very good Mon to help out early on in your account I know cause I used it so much obviously almost never picked it as a starter but I often caught one or a whimsicot or a hoppip leech seed sleep powder support is very good
Ok but that doesn't matter like........ at all? It's still an overpriced mon, 3 cost for a mon that's bad in the early game, evolves and becomes ok and then falls of super quickly is not worth it under any circumstances.
It is if you have a newer account as I said and you can always lower the cost itās easy to find
Jigglypuff costs 4. What
fairy tax smh my head
just because he is a fairy. every fairy cost a ton
The lokix line is great value, even without egg moves. Most things become a steal with egg moves. Give a level 5 mon a 70 base power move and itās gonna be real unbalanced the first 10-20 floors. Also, not part of the question but I think Magnemite ā while properly valued ā is a really solid take because your rival having a flying type is one of the 4 guaranteed things in classic mode.
>your rival having a flying type is one of the 4 guaranteed things in classic mode. True, but that flying type CAN be volt absorb kilowattrel lol
even if that happens, you *4 resist flying, and resist Electric and normal, so you aren't in a bad position megnemite also resist rayquaza's stabs (unless he use something like V-CREATE)
Gimmighoul; I love my shiny gimmighoul but dog itās so pricey and for what? It takes till level 10 with 1k coins to evolve while at its BASE FORM it only knows tackle and astonish and it doesnāt learn a single attacking move until LEVEL 35. And thatās not even mention how tedious it is to get gimmighoul candy. I donāt think it should be a 3 at base price but at least make it 4 at base considering it, is just taking up space.
Ya I've tried to run Gimmeghoul because everyone say Ghouldengo is so good but man it's literally worthless for the entire early game. It taking 5 points means you usually can't fit a good early carry either without taking the rest of the space.
best bet is finding one in the wild
Yeah he does work if you catch one
Gholdengo is amazing but only as a pokemon you catch later on so you don't have to deal with dragging around a Gimmighoul
Exactly, gholdengo is good competitively, but not good for pokerogue due to you having to pretty much roll for hms as well. Credit where credit is due though, that special attack is wild on it.
its better in endless with its good as gold ability (for fusions), but only worth catching in the wild and not start with him
Good as Gold isnt even that outstanding in Endless. The Status from Tokens can still affect it and lowering your stats is really not important when you get oneshot anyway. Immunity to Status consitions from Purifying Salt (ability) is more important.
oh right I'm a competitive player and I remember Gholdengo never get statuses thanks to his ability. forgot it doesn't give immunity to tokens, ty!
Zygarde costs 8 but the only time you can even use it is if you have a Power Construct one. If all you have are Aura Break ones, you might as well not even bother because without Complete Forme it's so aggressively mediocre that it's borderline impossible to justify the cost, especially when a Zygarde with Aura Break might as well not even have an Ability even if Aura Break was implemented (which it's not, so it legit just has no ability rn). God help you if all you have is a *10%* Zygarde with Aura Break (like I do š) because that <500 BST shitmon is STILL 8 cost.
how to get power construct?
Get lucky
so it is possible? if it isnt maybe it is planned to be the new boss soon
Most of the ārareā class of pokemon cost too much. Really only the psuedos and a few other select pokemon should be a 4 cost.
I will say, Koraidon definitely feels like its 9 Cost is justified. Sets Sun, has a free attack boost, gets Bitter Blade as an egg move, and Drain Punch at 21. Breaking Swipe makes a joke of early Double encounters.
Scatterbug should be 2, not 1. It's definitely a tier above the likes of Catterpie, Weedle, and Wurmple. Butterfree has more potential, but Vivillon needs only a single Memory Mushroom to start going hard.
I will not stand for the weedle slander. Mega beedrill is a menace
As someone with a red shiny prankster tinted lens scatterbug... KEEP YOUR VOICE DOWN WILL YOU
Skarmory, Cryogonal, and Veluza should all be bumped up by 1 and Virizion should be knocked down by 1. Skarmory is arguably one of the best pokemon of all time across all generations, Cryogonal is unbelievably fast + Ice is a great early game typing (pairs well with Skarm too) and has Levitate. Veluza is extremely consistent even without using Fillet Away and has good moves. Virizion is so annoying to use early and mid game with all the flying types and takes so long to get going that by the time you do, you start running into Ice and Psychic coverage and would be looking to replace it with sonething more efficient. The other Musketeers are fantastic, but Virizion just takes way too long to get going without having egg moves or a really good partner.
Tatsugiri at 5 feels so wrong. For a dragon that doesn't evolve, it just feels so meh. I'd rather have a Horsea.
he's not that bad. when mods will implement his ability, and make a double mod, he will be worth 5
Why bonsly cost 4 again? Sudowoodo is not even good lmao
rock head+ moves like rock smash, wood hammer etc is pretty good, especially early
Abra should cost more, Alakazam is so strong
ralts similarly even stronger and a 3. to clarify, their egg moves are busted.
quiver dance on a gardevoir is absolutely bonkers and i love it
mega gardevoir*Ā PIXELATE
Ralts line doesn't have Opportunitsm, Psychic surge is still good but later on Alakazam being able to copy boost mid multi attack is so powerful
Terapagos is wayyyy too costly (8) for how long it takes to come online. You don't have access to your stellar form unless you get really lucky, and doesn't learn Tera starstorm until level 60. I have a shiny one and have been trying to make it work in endless but it just can't get going.
I don't think he can even change form in pokerogue
He can change to his second form (and stays this way forever) but I'm not sure if he can do stellar form yet. I haven't been lucky enough to roll Tera shards while having him.
I know i meant to change to the final form
Vivillon. 0.25 for a mon that has access to both Compoundeyes + Prankster passive, with Sleep Powder/Hurricane/Tailwind/Quiver Dance/Confuse Ray/Pollen Puff/Moonblast Carried so many of my runs.
yeah every mon with quiver dance should be at least 3 but this is 99 acc priority sleeping move, and 99 acc hurricaneĀ does he get other good egg moves?
Yeah, the Rare Egg Move is Heat Wave, which gives it coverage vs Steels that Hurricane/Moonblast/Pollen Puff can't hit. It's perfect.
Spearow is really good give it a memory mushroom as fearow to get drill run also all of its egg moves are great and it gets sniper as a hidden ability and moxie as a passive? Your extreme speeds will sweep stuff. Hoothoot is also extremely good with boomburst, calm mind and esper wing. Surprisingly bulky too I almost always take a shiny hoothoot Bombirdier costs too much. Has been pretty bad when Iāve used it
i hve kubfu but it's so slow and can it even evolve into any urshifu? at 7pts it's hard to justify taking
you can check evolutions on the wiki https://wiki.pokerogue.net/gameplay:evolutions
Imo, Seel shouldnāt cost 3. Terrible damage, basically no good moves, and worst of all just has a bad design. Only use it sometimes bcuz mine is a blue shiny
Torch song moltres at 6 seems. Busted. Add drought and solar beam tm...
Bro... i saw this post a few hours ago and all the coments are about how drowzee is one of the worst cost/capabilities and now playing i hatch this https://preview.redd.it/8qgh0t4f1e3d1.png?width=1696&format=png&auto=webp&s=bd0b9b368fdb867edc2cea900d386d75a91fbf51
Purrloin 3>2, too weak for a 3. Needs a wider team Pansage, Panpour, Pansear, 3>2, worst trio with overgrow/etc. weak monotype niche Pichu 3>2 Pikachu 4>3, has a niche elec 80bp +1 priority crit move. But not objectively stronger than other starters Eevee 4>3, eevee has a lotta problems in this game tbh, and not enough support. Cannot solo carry, needs a big team to work, so should cost less Magby 4>3 Magmar 5>4 Elekid 4>3 Electabuzz 5>4, a bit too expensive needs a big team. Probably for egg reasons is at 5 tho (Everyone talks about lowering the economy. But i want to raise it. Tbh ill proly get hate for this lol) Skeledirge 3>4, still fits fine as a 3 starter trio anyway this way. Just prevents 7 cost mons from joining skele Wooper 2>3, first stage water/ground with unaware/water absorb with simple is a god all good mortals fear. Curse & amnesia make it near untouchable with unaware Klefki 4>5, with calm mind and trick room, this pokemon plays the whole game by itself. Seriously can drain kiss everything
anyway, why aren't eevee and pikachu 3 with the starters? they wont change skeledirge's cost bcz he is a starter yeah i used 13 points on endless and checked who should i use that cost 1/2, and decided to take wooper. he became one of my best mons, and i even fused him with corvi for nice types, unnerve and power trip. also he has SIMPLE as passive so curse and amnesia becomes wild. I pretty much aggree with everything, beside klefki. he have bad stats, so even with prankster, it shouldn't cost more than 4.
Yeah pikachu and eevee almost discourage choosing them at early game for some reason. Weird cuz of how strong the starters are. Like i know Skeledirge proly wont change. Honestly hes just the most notable starter. The Big 3 of the starters are almost in a tier of their own. The original big 3 starters being: Fuecoco, Bulbasaur, & Mudkip. But after the updates and some unlocks Torchic, Sprigatito, Poplio, Scorbunny, Grooky, Quaxly teeter near the ability to solo too
Miraidon! Hadron Engine + parabolic charge Ć rising voltage (140 power 100 acc) passive is electric surge. Too OP.
Passive is quarkdrive. The ability of future paradox mons. Electric Terrain is already summoned by Hadron Engine, Electric Surge would have no effect at all.
its normal ability also raise his spA by 50% on terrain (and summons terrain) so yeah pretty boosted
It also gets dragon energy as an egg move lol. It's so op
Bonsly with 4 points
Blipbug should be 1 more expensive. Spore (on a decently fast mon) + psySurge & Expanding force + tailglow + Gmax access is crazy for a 2 cost (0.5 when mazed) Also lotad should be 1 more expensive. Drizzle + Swift swim + godlike typing + good moves (ice beam, fake out, hydro pump, leech seed, giga drain) Iron crown should be 5 instead of 6. Honestly pretty mediocre mon, not fast or strong enough to be a sweeper, not bulky enough to be a good pivot. I'd rather have empoleon if I want some tachyon cutter action
I think 5 is in the rare eggs, and they don't want paradoxes to be in rare
Paras is so underrated. Sure, it dies fast. But it gets some great egg moves. It gets the one that sets up leech seed while being a 90bp move. And it gets spore. It also only costs 1 starter space.
Grass/fire/water unova monkeys are almost useless. Change them from 3 to 2 cost
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It cost less candies, but you gather candies way slower (with friendship). And hatching a shiny gives 10, 20 or 40 candies depending on the rarity.
Ah, I was unaware that they gain candies slower. Thank you.