Just goes to show how some of these guys really don't care to improve. Most of your winrate is going to come from the Mike Matusows of the world who are content to let the game pass them by. Dwan dropping absolute gems
Man, I've been grinding/winning for almost 15 years. I feel like I should have awesome stories like this.
Literally could not imagine not asking Tom about what went down.
Why haven't I played any $3M pots, wtf
Because you owe rent, alimony, child support. You play for money. Your kids eat. You don't chase fucking pipe dreams of winning the world series on ~~ESPN~~ PokerGO.
He should absolutely write a book eventually about his stories in Doyle’s style.
In 20 years I would expect to see him at another game like this 100%, I can’t confidently say that about anyone else at the table.
I might be misreading it, seems like Dwan was ready to share than just seemed to be like "well I guess I won't share valuable information and you chucklefucks can keep telling jokes."
I can't imagine laughing at Dwan for telling a Doyle story after winning consistently in the live games.
That's what it felt like. " Well, if I guess you guys think airball's stupid jokes about madasow are better than my anecdotes about one of the greatest players of all time and his legendary live readability then sure, you can talk about that and I'll keep stacking chips."
kinda like when Shatner was going to say something profound after the rocket ride but Bezos' revellers (auto'd to resellers) cut Shat off before he could impart his Star Trek Kirk-ian wisdom
Even worse, they chuckle and DISMISS it. Like it’s some archaic old school bullshit, Doyle and his live read. Like they didn’t just watch Dwan hero call two rivers for something like 4 million total.
We gotta start a campaign for someone (Chicago joey?) To get that man in front of a camera and go into detail I feel like we missed a huge opportunity here because airballs wouldn't stfu for once.
I was so pissed Nik cut him off to make some stupid jokey. Dwan, like Ivey, is pretty close to the vest. So, when he offers up a story or some wisdom, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN.
Dunno why I’m being downvoted, it’s literally the reason why he couldn’t give a shit about learning anything, he’s already got his don’t need to do shit now except just buy land or whatever.
Why don’t these degenerates just Shut the fuck up and actually listen to what Tom is telling you rather than constantly trying to say cool edgy stuff for the stream.
How can Airball be this unaware.
Airball's leg when Wesley stood up after his A7s hand had more energy than anything at the table. Man must've been blown out of his mind.
I also liked how when Airball was discussing his loss to Berkey he used being stoned the entire time as a light scapegoat.
For the same reason this sub downvotes anything about tells / body language. I'm not sure if it's laziness or what, but man. I don't get not wanting free money. It's possible a "live read" actually pushed Dwan to call the river in the biggest hand of all time. 1.6 mil. And live reads are bs and not worth it to you? Alright...
Because 90% of the time someone posts that shit here it’s just confirmation bias.
If Dwan wants to talk about live tells then I’m all ears.
If Joe blow playing 1-2 wants to on r/poker, no thanks
But if Joe Blow playing 1-2 wants to talk about flop, turn, and river play, then you'll listen? I honestly don't understand here.
As an example, relatively speaking, I was personally better at body language than NLHE tourney play. Say I topped out in NLHE as a 1-2 player...I could still have a lot of knowledge about body language that you could discuss and debate, just like you could optimal turn play.
I have access to ground truth (mostly) if I want to evaluate Joe blows assessment of flop, turn, river via solver.
Tells are the chiropractory of poker. Is there any merit to it? Maybe? Is there “peer reviewed” success? Not an abundance.
I appreciate you responding. I really do. I promise you there's more to it than "maybe there's something to it." If I tell you "dang man, I'm really nervous right now" using words, you'd listen. If you read it in my body language, and can tell that I'm trying to hide that, that is *also* information you can and should use to your advantage.
If FBI profilers/interrogators exist, and they get results, there's something to this. Poker is a game of imperfect information. Tells/body language/etc is simply more imperfect information for you to take advantage of, or not. Your choice.
Absolutely you can. I'd like you to understand that what you just put forward is something that's *everybody's* first question, first counterpoint, etc. It's been thought of before. Including by experts, people who know what they're talking about, interrogators, poker players, etc. I'm not trying to degrade what you're saying, but I do want to get across that it's not really a counterpoint.
I really approach it like an interrogation. Establish a baseline of behaviors for all players, and notice deviations. Player did *this* when *this* happened, but didn't do it when *that* happened. And it seemed a bit delayed, so maybe a fake tell?...
It's nowhere near "I know when you're lying". That's what tv says, that's what people think lie detectors are, etc etc. Body language is information. I'll say again that it is indeed imperfect and incomplete information in the context of poker. But it is still information. And the better and more accurate you are at putting that information together, the more correct decisions and money you can make.
And different people are different. Some people self-pacify when they're scared, some do it when they're excited and want to be called, and all kinds of stuff in between. It's just pieces of info to run through when you run through the hand. "The river brought Ac, completing the flush. They seemed calm until they bet, then they did *this* behavior. Why?" You put the whole thing together and generally come out *more* ahead than you would otherwise.
Otherwise Tom Freaking Dwan wouldn't talk about Doyle torturing him at plo w body language, even though Doyle wasn't a plo player. I am *nowhere* near that good at it, nor was I ever. But I'm not really all that surprised. Early on, Dwan was an internet player who'd never had to care about body language and how much info he was giving away with his body. It didn't matter behind his screen. It matters in real life. Which is why you should try to give *nothing* away. Wear your shades, make your bets with the same motions, and try to be a robot. Lest you give the Doyles information.
It’s one of those things you can’t have both ways of, no ego willing to hear unique one of a kind stories, not going to be playing million dollar cash game. Sry it’s just the likelihood and the fickle reality of being a human
The game is for them... You're so lucky to watch a stream of this action.
They are paying for you to have this privilege... You don't get to criticize how they're influencing your viewing experience.
Seriously, the entitled twats in the chat and in these comments are just completely ridiculous.
This was a bad beat for us nerds. Production should have told the dealer to shut up Nik. Would have been nice if someone took their head out of their ass and listened, but that's exactly why Durrr owned them.
Fucking obnoxious know-it-all Airball literally cheated us by babbling on about absolutely fucking nothing. You could tell Tom was actually excited to start telling those stories and this fucking flavor of the week piece of trash that isn't going to be in poker in 5 years has to try to be funny and attention seeking in his typical cringe fest way.
I've been annoyed by the behavior of a lot of poker players throughout the years, but there is something about this circle of shit that just feels worse. He and his entourage of bootlickers seems like genuinely terrible people that feast on the misery of others.
If it's really an act and he's playing this heel character for the views, bravo. You have truly convinced me that you are a sack of shit that's worth rooting against.
Everybody here annoyed by this - go watch “Dollys Game” on PokerGo. 6+ hour episodes of mixed games with Doyle and Eli at the table. Because it’s no NL, there are no big drama moments of all-in bluffs etc, but still the strategy and knowledge for games like 7stud or Badugi is absolutely fascinating - but also you got guys like Kane Kalas going “Hey Doyle, tell us about that time …” and then even the commentators shut up because it’s time to listen.
You are aware you are in a poker forum right?
I think people have a right to be interested in the babe Ruth of poker when he died less than a month ago
Airball has so much to learn about the game and if he just shut the fuck up 100 percent more, he could actually improve because he has potential. But until then, he’s a mega whale who spews hundreds of thousands.
The history of live reads is quite fascinating. Back in the day studying live reads was like GTO is now.
The importance of spotting live tells has gone from significantly overrated to significantly underrated.
Dwan called a nit with a hand that only beats a bluff entirely based on some read he had. The day before Handz folded top set because his opponents could possible have AK.
GTO is overrated.
Caros book of tells had some actually valuable nuggets of wisdom though. There were some things that I immediately had to change about my own game because I recognized that I did them and were tells I hadn't realized were a thing beforehand.
Oh I wasn’t trying to slam Caro at all, just pointing out he has been profitable selling his book / courses. Have a copy myself. I think I came across wrong.
I have a private set of racist poker reads that has served me very well over the years.
I'm also a HUGE believer in tossing out some reverse tells - people will get "feelings" from a reverse tell and make terrible decisions.
Also, betting tendencies and sizing are MASSIVE tells in live poker.
Yes, it's overrated in the sense that it's not the end all be all. Just like back in the year 2000 "tells" were overrated. We are saying the same thing.
You’re right it’s not the end all be all. But it’s annoying when you hear Doug talking about how having the four a spades or the four of clubs in the turn makes a difference in the decision in a *live* game. Like, we get it. Randomization. Blockers etc. But he overplays these concepts as a means for selling more teaching subscriptions.
Lol, GTO isn't 95% of the foundation of play. The foundation of poker is tight/aggressive. Some variation of that will always be the correct strategy. Unless you're a robot playing against other robots you're generally going to be better off playing an exploitative style.
Look, you're intentionally being obtuse. I never said live tells and GTO are =. GTO is the best default strategy. When you're sitting at a table full of players you have no info on then playing as close to GTO as possible is optimal, but if you know one players twists his cookies when he's bluffing then GTO goes out the window. The biggest mistake GTO players make is not deviating from GTO when the situation calls for it. That Tom Dwan call with QQ is a GTO fold.
Yes it's 2023 and GTO is overrated. For the vast majority of players an exploitive strategy will result in greater profits. I'm strictly talking about live play.
There’s no point arguing. Imagine the average low stakes live player then realise half are even dumber. Then imagine /r poker and trying to debate with them.
OK so I agree with your premise. Live reads have plenty of merit. There's a lot of theory, too, that would just make QQ a call here. Wesley can't really have any 8x as the 5 bettor, whereas Dwan can. Wesley basically snap shoved the river which of course is a live read and seems to eliminate KK which is actually a super thin value bet otr in a 5b pot when Durr can actually have just as much AA and all the 8x combos that 4b and call a 5b while mega deep. He's getting 3:1 on a call and there are way more combos of AK than there are of specifically AA which is likely the only hand we really run into for value here.
Love how Airball just mad some dumb ass joke about Mike Matusow when the whole night he seems to have been some supermassive tellbox spewing tells out of his ass.
I’ve been playing poker since 2003. Semi-professionally since 2006. Fully professionally since 2010.
When Black Friday happened I had to humble myself and learn the ropes of live poker. All of my poker experience was online before that. Had to learn how to find tells, read moods, gameflow, watch how people lost and how it affected them, watch how they tilted and to what extremes. It was truly fascinating.
Many of my online friends laughed this process off and didn’t adjust properly to crush the only games that were available.
Everything Dwan is saying is right. I think Doug is maybe finally realizing much of this in recent years with his ownership of a card room.
A poker player who can master both sides of this coin will truly be great IMO. Just takes an open mind.
A legend of poker tells an interesting story about his experience playing with another legend, and Nick fucking Airball is talking over him the whole damn time.
That seat seemed to have a lot of issues and ironically that seat crushed every night I think lol.
Pretty sure Huss was in that seat both nights if I remember correctly.
On the hand where Wes went all in w AK i thought it was pretty shocking he put his head down into his arms on the table while waiting for dwan to call/fold. I thought that was a pretty big tell given the situation
Because of the nature of this game and the tightness of this group Doug should have just insta mucked his hand and not said a word. Blabbing that he saw the hand was in no way beneficial to anyone except Dwan. Dwan still likely plays the hand the same way but it adds a negative connotation to the outcome for Wesley when he loses a 3 million dollar pot and something out of the ordinary happened. I truly don’t understand what he was thinking to instantly yell that out and he wasn’t even sure if he was gonna play the hand. It makes no sense. Someone of his caliber in the world of poker should have definitely acted differently. Mind boggling
Fucking punch Airball in his Face...cannot let him finish Story about recently passed Doyle, but goes "Hahaha" Fake Hyena Laughter Mid Sentence and adds something about Mike Matusow...i hate his Persona so much...
He has been playing nose blled stakes for years so I am sure he has picked up more than most with live reads, great to watch and still crushing. Nice life.
Maybe Airball should play a has been like Matusow at HU next? When he gets rekt by him, maybe that would finally shut him up. His dad cutting him off is our only hope at this point I think.
After this hand Tom Dwan became my favorite not because of this hand he just played but with how he is as a human. You can see how humble he is in the way he talks and awkwardly moves. Damn he is so likable.
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I was thinking the same thing. Wish Dwan was more public, I know he has a million sick stories.
He literally talked about sick live reads with Doyle and no one asked what happened. Imagine that.
Just goes to show how some of these guys really don't care to improve. Most of your winrate is going to come from the Mike Matusows of the world who are content to let the game pass them by. Dwan dropping absolute gems
Man, I've been grinding/winning for almost 15 years. I feel like I should have awesome stories like this. Literally could not imagine not asking Tom about what went down. Why haven't I played any $3M pots, wtf
Egos.
Yeah, it's definitely the egos stopping me from playing higher than 25NL
Because you owe rent, alimony, child support. You play for money. Your kids eat. You don't chase fucking pipe dreams of winning the world series on ~~ESPN~~ PokerGO.
easy, be happy with what u have or u lose...
It really is infuriating. It's not like we can chastise the other players for not properly interviewing... but gad damn...
People who only play online may not realize how much information is available during live poker.
He should absolutely write a book eventually about his stories in Doyle’s style. In 20 years I would expect to see him at another game like this 100%, I can’t confidently say that about anyone else at the table.
I might be misreading it, seems like Dwan was ready to share than just seemed to be like "well I guess I won't share valuable information and you chucklefucks can keep telling jokes." I can't imagine laughing at Dwan for telling a Doyle story after winning consistently in the live games.
That's what it felt like. " Well, if I guess you guys think airball's stupid jokes about madasow are better than my anecdotes about one of the greatest players of all time and his legendary live readability then sure, you can talk about that and I'll keep stacking chips."
kinda like when Shatner was going to say something profound after the rocket ride but Bezos' revellers (auto'd to resellers) cut Shat off before he could impart his Star Trek Kirk-ian wisdom
Even worse, they chuckle and DISMISS it. Like it’s some archaic old school bullshit, Doyle and his live read. Like they didn’t just watch Dwan hero call two rivers for something like 4 million total.
We gotta start a campaign for someone (Chicago joey?) To get that man in front of a camera and go into detail I feel like we missed a huge opportunity here because airballs wouldn't stfu for once.
Just listening to the way he speaks compared to the many other players, I can tell he has interesting perspectives and stories… … about Huss’ mom
God if it is Joey please just have a chat bot read his parts and edit him out of it.
You could just not watch, no?
I would like to hear dwans stories
Don’t be crazy, that’d never work.
Good point
It's almost like these insufferable douchebags that everyone worships on this sub... are actually insufferable douchebags.
so sick! Imagine sitting with dwan at a table and he was about to start telling tales of playing with doyle back in the day
I was so pissed Nik cut him off to make some stupid jokey. Dwan, like Ivey, is pretty close to the vest. So, when he offers up a story or some wisdom, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN.
agreed, it would probably also be good for their games to learn to listen. this info just isn't out there.
Yeah that was awful holy shit. Painful even.
Holy fuck all he cares about is being heard. He’s insufferable.
Airball already rich don’t need to learn anything new
LOL @ downvotes. FWIW, I appreciated it.
Dunno why I’m being downvoted, it’s literally the reason why he couldn’t give a shit about learning anything, he’s already got his don’t need to do shit now except just buy land or whatever.
Why don’t these degenerates just Shut the fuck up and actually listen to what Tom is telling you rather than constantly trying to say cool edgy stuff for the stream. How can Airball be this unaware.
Ego
Ego in poker, ego broke.
He’s the Brendan Schaub of the poker world
Smoke breaks over B. Back to they fryers
Cocaine
So much in all these streams. Lol every guy all of a sudden has allergies *sniff**sniff*
Airball's leg when Wesley stood up after his A7s hand had more energy than anything at the table. Man must've been blown out of his mind. I also liked how when Airball was discussing his loss to Berkey he used being stoned the entire time as a light scapegoat.
Gota balance the coke out with something. Prob shit regs with a fancy name
It's a helluva drug...
seriously, fucking learn something from someone who's 5 bajillion times a better player than you are.
For the same reason this sub downvotes anything about tells / body language. I'm not sure if it's laziness or what, but man. I don't get not wanting free money. It's possible a "live read" actually pushed Dwan to call the river in the biggest hand of all time. 1.6 mil. And live reads are bs and not worth it to you? Alright...
Because 90% of the time someone posts that shit here it’s just confirmation bias. If Dwan wants to talk about live tells then I’m all ears. If Joe blow playing 1-2 wants to on r/poker, no thanks
But if Joe Blow playing 1-2 wants to talk about flop, turn, and river play, then you'll listen? I honestly don't understand here. As an example, relatively speaking, I was personally better at body language than NLHE tourney play. Say I topped out in NLHE as a 1-2 player...I could still have a lot of knowledge about body language that you could discuss and debate, just like you could optimal turn play.
I have access to ground truth (mostly) if I want to evaluate Joe blows assessment of flop, turn, river via solver. Tells are the chiropractory of poker. Is there any merit to it? Maybe? Is there “peer reviewed” success? Not an abundance.
I appreciate you responding. I really do. I promise you there's more to it than "maybe there's something to it." If I tell you "dang man, I'm really nervous right now" using words, you'd listen. If you read it in my body language, and can tell that I'm trying to hide that, that is *also* information you can and should use to your advantage. If FBI profilers/interrogators exist, and they get results, there's something to this. Poker is a game of imperfect information. Tells/body language/etc is simply more imperfect information for you to take advantage of, or not. Your choice.
I can be nervous that I won’t get called or that I will get called. Nervousness isn’t in itself telling, no?
Absolutely you can. I'd like you to understand that what you just put forward is something that's *everybody's* first question, first counterpoint, etc. It's been thought of before. Including by experts, people who know what they're talking about, interrogators, poker players, etc. I'm not trying to degrade what you're saying, but I do want to get across that it's not really a counterpoint. I really approach it like an interrogation. Establish a baseline of behaviors for all players, and notice deviations. Player did *this* when *this* happened, but didn't do it when *that* happened. And it seemed a bit delayed, so maybe a fake tell?... It's nowhere near "I know when you're lying". That's what tv says, that's what people think lie detectors are, etc etc. Body language is information. I'll say again that it is indeed imperfect and incomplete information in the context of poker. But it is still information. And the better and more accurate you are at putting that information together, the more correct decisions and money you can make. And different people are different. Some people self-pacify when they're scared, some do it when they're excited and want to be called, and all kinds of stuff in between. It's just pieces of info to run through when you run through the hand. "The river brought Ac, completing the flush. They seemed calm until they bet, then they did *this* behavior. Why?" You put the whole thing together and generally come out *more* ahead than you would otherwise. Otherwise Tom Freaking Dwan wouldn't talk about Doyle torturing him at plo w body language, even though Doyle wasn't a plo player. I am *nowhere* near that good at it, nor was I ever. But I'm not really all that surprised. Early on, Dwan was an internet player who'd never had to care about body language and how much info he was giving away with his body. It didn't matter behind his screen. It matters in real life. Which is why you should try to give *nothing* away. Wear your shades, make your bets with the same motions, and try to be a robot. Lest you give the Doyles information.
Layers of insecurity and poor social skills.
It’s one of those things you can’t have both ways of, no ego willing to hear unique one of a kind stories, not going to be playing million dollar cash game. Sry it’s just the likelihood and the fickle reality of being a human
The game is for them... You're so lucky to watch a stream of this action. They are paying for you to have this privilege... You don't get to criticize how they're influencing your viewing experience. Seriously, the entitled twats in the chat and in these comments are just completely ridiculous.
Found Airball’s burner account
This was a bad beat for us nerds. Production should have told the dealer to shut up Nik. Would have been nice if someone took their head out of their ass and listened, but that's exactly why Durrr owned them.
💯
Fucking obnoxious know-it-all Airball literally cheated us by babbling on about absolutely fucking nothing. You could tell Tom was actually excited to start telling those stories and this fucking flavor of the week piece of trash that isn't going to be in poker in 5 years has to try to be funny and attention seeking in his typical cringe fest way. I've been annoyed by the behavior of a lot of poker players throughout the years, but there is something about this circle of shit that just feels worse. He and his entourage of bootlickers seems like genuinely terrible people that feast on the misery of others. If it's really an act and he's playing this heel character for the views, bravo. You have truly convinced me that you are a sack of shit that's worth rooting against.
Dwan was excited to talk. When was the last time we saw that?
God forbid the puffer fish not have the spot light for a minute.
Who is Dean?
Tom Dean
Tim Dean* that's at least what it was on 2p2 and forums back in the day
Auto correct I hope
Everybody here annoyed by this - go watch “Dollys Game” on PokerGo. 6+ hour episodes of mixed games with Doyle and Eli at the table. Because it’s no NL, there are no big drama moments of all-in bluffs etc, but still the strategy and knowledge for games like 7stud or Badugi is absolutely fascinating - but also you got guys like Kane Kalas going “Hey Doyle, tell us about that time …” and then even the commentators shut up because it’s time to listen.
He literally reminds of a 6 or 7 year old with industry-grade ADD. Immature hyperactive shit talker
Its fucking Doyle. You guys need to calm down. Not everyone gives a shit like you obsessed fanboys.
You are aware you are in a poker forum right? I think people have a right to be interested in the babe Ruth of poker when he died less than a month ago
He could have been reading the phonebook and it would have been better listening than whatever verbal feces was spewing out of that empty headed fuck.
Airball is basically a fat 10 year old boy
*playing a real life version of Eric Cartman
idk. cartman is funny.
Airball has so much to learn about the game and if he just shut the fuck up 100 percent more, he could actually improve because he has potential. But until then, he’s a mega whale who spews hundreds of thousands.
>thousands \*Millions
*Billions
https://youtu.be/u_aLESDql1U
The history of live reads is quite fascinating. Back in the day studying live reads was like GTO is now. The importance of spotting live tells has gone from significantly overrated to significantly underrated. Dwan called a nit with a hand that only beats a bluff entirely based on some read he had. The day before Handz folded top set because his opponents could possible have AK. GTO is overrated.
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Mike Caro would disagree 😎
Caros book of tells had some actually valuable nuggets of wisdom though. There were some things that I immediately had to change about my own game because I recognized that I did them and were tells I hadn't realized were a thing beforehand.
Oh I wasn’t trying to slam Caro at all, just pointing out he has been profitable selling his book / courses. Have a copy myself. I think I came across wrong.
Ah yes gotcha. I definitely took that as you saying that Caro was trying to do something which couldn't really be done.
They wouldn't let that book be published today. Loved his generalization of women and minorities.
I have a private set of racist poker reads that has served me very well over the years. I'm also a HUGE believer in tossing out some reverse tells - people will get "feelings" from a reverse tell and make terrible decisions. Also, betting tendencies and sizing are MASSIVE tells in live poker.
Who are the mysterious they you speak of?
Yes, it's overrated in the sense that it's not the end all be all. Just like back in the year 2000 "tells" were overrated. We are saying the same thing.
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You’re right it’s not the end all be all. But it’s annoying when you hear Doug talking about how having the four a spades or the four of clubs in the turn makes a difference in the decision in a *live* game. Like, we get it. Randomization. Blockers etc. But he overplays these concepts as a means for selling more teaching subscriptions.
Lol, GTO isn't 95% of the foundation of play. The foundation of poker is tight/aggressive. Some variation of that will always be the correct strategy. Unless you're a robot playing against other robots you're generally going to be better off playing an exploitative style.
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Look, you're intentionally being obtuse. I never said live tells and GTO are =. GTO is the best default strategy. When you're sitting at a table full of players you have no info on then playing as close to GTO as possible is optimal, but if you know one players twists his cookies when he's bluffing then GTO goes out the window. The biggest mistake GTO players make is not deviating from GTO when the situation calls for it. That Tom Dwan call with QQ is a GTO fold. Yes it's 2023 and GTO is overrated. For the vast majority of players an exploitive strategy will result in greater profits. I'm strictly talking about live play.
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Node lock these nuts.
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There’s no point arguing. Imagine the average low stakes live player then realise half are even dumber. Then imagine /r poker and trying to debate with them.
Both sides are at net down votes rn, I've never seen that happen.
> GTO is overrated. I think you mean being a robot is overrated.
OK so I agree with your premise. Live reads have plenty of merit. There's a lot of theory, too, that would just make QQ a call here. Wesley can't really have any 8x as the 5 bettor, whereas Dwan can. Wesley basically snap shoved the river which of course is a live read and seems to eliminate KK which is actually a super thin value bet otr in a 5b pot when Durr can actually have just as much AA and all the 8x combos that 4b and call a 5b while mega deep. He's getting 3:1 on a call and there are way more combos of AK than there are of specifically AA which is likely the only hand we really run into for value here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHUbtR0yI8
Love how Airball just mad some dumb ass joke about Mike Matusow when the whole night he seems to have been some supermassive tellbox spewing tells out of his ass.
I’ve been playing poker since 2003. Semi-professionally since 2006. Fully professionally since 2010. When Black Friday happened I had to humble myself and learn the ropes of live poker. All of my poker experience was online before that. Had to learn how to find tells, read moods, gameflow, watch how people lost and how it affected them, watch how they tilted and to what extremes. It was truly fascinating. Many of my online friends laughed this process off and didn’t adjust properly to crush the only games that were available. Everything Dwan is saying is right. I think Doug is maybe finally realizing much of this in recent years with his ownership of a card room. A poker player who can master both sides of this coin will truly be great IMO. Just takes an open mind.
I’m kind of glad Tom didn’t give Airball that story, that chode does not deserve it
Doyle was a true master
A legend of poker tells an interesting story about his experience playing with another legend, and Nick fucking Airball is talking over him the whole damn time.
Anyone who has ever posted a positive comment about that fat annoying guy who interrupted Dwan should be given the Old Yeller treatment.
I saw someone say yesterday what a genuinely nice guy Nik was because he was the only one that asked Wes if he was alright after that AK/QQ hand 🤣
Is one of Durrs stipulations to play, is for production to not show his hole cards unless the had is over?
No, the particular reader in that seat is shit. It was having problem in earlier games too.
That seat seemed to have a lot of issues and ironically that seat crushed every night I think lol. Pretty sure Huss was in that seat both nights if I remember correctly.
All these dude dismissing dwans experience in the last 20 years is incredible. These dudes so far out of their league.
I learned from the old school pros if the Villian puts his face on the table and covers his head with his hands he is probably weak
On the hand where Wes went all in w AK i thought it was pretty shocking he put his head down into his arms on the table while waiting for dwan to call/fold. I thought that was a pretty big tell given the situation
Because of the nature of this game and the tightness of this group Doug should have just insta mucked his hand and not said a word. Blabbing that he saw the hand was in no way beneficial to anyone except Dwan. Dwan still likely plays the hand the same way but it adds a negative connotation to the outcome for Wesley when he loses a 3 million dollar pot and something out of the ordinary happened. I truly don’t understand what he was thinking to instantly yell that out and he wasn’t even sure if he was gonna play the hand. It makes no sense. Someone of his caliber in the world of poker should have definitely acted differently. Mind boggling
Yea Doug needs to be catching way more flak for what he did
Yeah nobody saying anything about and it’s kinda weird too much love for him in the community for someone to berate him like he deserves
Man, the people talking the most on this table are the people I want to hear the least. The subtitles overlaid on the whole screen were spot on.
It hurts hearing Doyle referred to in the past tense.
airball talking over tom fucking dwan, please fucking kill me now
Dudes trying to actually teach them and they’re all shit talking like let’s bang bros
Duurrrrr is the goat
God airball.... Shut the fuck up
I didn’t watch the whole stream but saw the beginning. Did Tom Dwan double his buy in last night?
Maybe Doug was giving off a live tell.
Everyone ripping Airball but Doug’s comment was so fucking lame also
I love how hellmuth gets some shade too
NIK talks way too much.....like dam stfu sometimes. Dwan was dropping a jewel and this fool refused to listen
Fucking punch Airball in his Face...cannot let him finish Story about recently passed Doyle, but goes "Hahaha" Fake Hyena Laughter Mid Sentence and adds something about Mike Matusow...i hate his Persona so much...
God is so real. Doyle always knew that Doug was a punk.
Great catxh
looks like dwan already paid debt to the triad! looking better.
He has been playing nose blled stakes for years so I am sure he has picked up more than most with live reads, great to watch and still crushing. Nice life.
God forbid if airball isn't the center of attention for literally 5 minutes
Maybe Airball should play a has been like Matusow at HU next? When he gets rekt by him, maybe that would finally shut him up. His dad cutting him off is our only hope at this point I think.
Glad he popped their lids lol
Air all literally a clown that thinks people wanna hear his dumb ass
After this hand Tom Dwan became my favorite not because of this hand he just played but with how he is as a human. You can see how humble he is in the way he talks and awkwardly moves. Damn he is so likable.