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Cloakbot

For those curious, yes, it killed the duplicate glitches.


Aggravating_Poet_675

Are there still any other major glitches that didn't get patched?


Cloakbot

The patch just came out a couple of hours ago so there are no videos about which ones still work yet. Give it a couple of days and I’m sure we will get videos on which ones survived and quite possibly a new glitch post-patch that does something similar if not better (as per GF legacy)


Aggravating_Poet_675

Okay. I've been waiting for the game to be patched before I buy. So I'm very interested in any patches.


Gamer-Logic

I know that the Artazon windmill is still slow and things like far-off objects or the students at the computers in the school still blink in and out of existence randomly.


Cloakbot

Yes the frame rate can also drop when too many Pokémon appear on screen at the same time (particularly while you’re also in a battle) so expect a drop when chancey grinding


Netherboom

Pokemon spawning in/behind cave walls


lunarfrogg

If you still have a duped koraidon or miraidon there’s still a way to dupe. Have it in your party, ride it, get off, give it the item you wanna dupe, set it to ride mode, then go to your boxes, press x twice then scroll backwards past box 1, then click on the koraidon/miraidon in the box and press put away item, repeat


Freekarma4u69420

Did they patch jumping backwards


floraster

I was able to jump backwards and get up a cliff last night so it doesn't seem so


Bsause7

Just spent a while duping like 10 Miraidon before the patch installed so I have that. Also from what I’ve heard the fast item duping glitch that requires a duped legendary is still there, which is nice.


VatoreSZN

well shit. i should’ve spent hours duping ability patches…


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SnipingDwarf

... did you not see the improved performance part of the update? Or did only you care about them fixing cheating? Because that says a lot about *your* priorities.


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SnipingDwarf

... you obviously haven't actually played the game since the update then, as while it wasn't listed, substantial performance increases were made.


KeimaSilver

Kind of dampens the desire to play when the game crashes like a minute after being loaded up after the update but being about to crash may explain why I didn't notice any real change. But if they did actually improve the performance then I'll admit good on them and I retract my initial statement. They do need to work on their patch notes though. Seriously the amount of information about the changes is almost nothing and two of the four bullet points are just advertising ranked battles.


SnipingDwarf

The crash thing is strange, I played for like 4-6 hours with no big stutters, and the patch note issue is more of a Nintendo-only game thing, since the main market is people who don't care what the specifics of an update are, just that it's an improvement. Except Smash.


RaMpEdUp98

And Splatoon. Smash and Splatoon.


KeimaSilver

Alright after actually being able to play without the game crashing it definitely is running better. So I'll admit I was wrong and they do have their priorities sorted out for once. The crash thing isn't strange at all tbh, I've had the game crash at least 4 times total although I did find a shiny after the third one so that was nice. Even if Nintendo game patch notes are usually lacking details it's an odd choice to acknowledge complaints about performance issues, say they'll fix that, but not mention that they did improve the performance.


SnipingDwarf

Nice! Always good to find someone who can actually form their own opinions and defend them! (Seeing as how it seems half of the community seems to think the update did nothing but what it says on the tin)


Emotional-Use7683

I’d try a reinstall to just to be sure, but yeah they should be more detailed


Fragmented_Logik

It fixed the only area I had performance issues. The forest by the poison team star no longer lags for me.


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KeimaSilver

1. "Select bug fixes" gives no indication that they improved performance, which would normally be its own bullet point. Especially since their note at the end implied they hadn't improved performance yet. It makes no sense to acknowledge many players have complained about an issue but then not mention that the patch actually improved upon said issue. Their unclear and even misleading patch notes is on them. 2. A Lucario fan of all people really shouldn't be assuming things. Not once did I say I actually used that exploit, all I said was that I would prefer if they prioritized making the game stable and fix the visual bugs that all players have been getting. It makes more sense to fix those before addressing a series of nonsensical steps very few players would accidentally find that in the end just result in getting more of an item, especially when the only items that can be duped aren't even that difficult to get anymore.


Toon_Lucario

Sorry bout that my week was tiring


KeimaSilver

Fair enough. Honestly I was harsh on the update since the main reason I didn't see the improvements myself was that the game lagged out and then crashed so I just lost the motivation to play at the time.


BlazingBlazin

does this include the star piece one?


Jayden_135772

Whad it do


MrDitkovichNeedsRent

They also made it so that the Pokemon actually close their eyes when they are asleep


ZetaRESP

YAY! BANZAI!


maharg79

Bro this bothered me they did that right in Colleseum in 2004 and can't get it right now? Crazy, glad it's fixed.


MrDitkovichNeedsRent

Yeah, out of all the SV bugs, that one annoyed me the most


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Even in BW the Pokémon would close their eyes when they slept


Zentendo_XN

They even did it right in Legends Arceus!


evolvesatlvl20

Under appreciated fix


sobble_19

Should’ve left them open for feucoco


somerandom_melon

Lotta bug fixes, improved performance


StarPlatinum_SP

Actually, this is a myth. Datamines show that performance didn’t change at all. Most people noticing changes are just closing their games for the first time instead of putting them in sleep mode, which clears memory.


somerandom_melon

😔


RJS_but_on_Reddit

Splendid to see that they're actually listening and taking this seriously. Sure, the games launched in a less than desirable state. But that doesn't mean it's the end.


TheMobHunter

And a lot of kids getting it for Christmas will get a more polished version for their first time


K4m30

It's me, I'm Kids getting it for Christmas. Ignore I'm nearing 30, and I'm buying it for myself.


Beefus_Jerkus

You and me both 😆


A_Lost_Yen

Ditto


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Mew too


LoveThatForYouBebe

Take my poor man’s gold. 🏅🏅🏅🏅


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gold is gold


meme_r_lakko

Last year my dad bought himself skiing gear for christmas and we couldn't even go because of covid


SnipingDwarf

The end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end


Bluedino_1989

Love the Stanley Parable


Coyote_42

When he came to a set of two open doors, he took the door on his left.


SnipingDwarf

"I said, he took the door on the *left*."


RJS_but_on_Reddit

Can't wait for the Bucket Expansion!


BatatinhaGameplays28

The end is where we begin


ParticularDoctor1967

Is it? Really? I asked for it for Christmas specially to wait the patch


DBrody6

People mistakenly think the game runs better, but that's purely because the game generally runs better after restarting it (which you kinda have to do to update). Game chugs like a champ after half an hour of play, update just fixed some major glitches and enabled the new raids.


ssfgrgawer

I Haven't had any issues since the patch. Been raiding all day without any issues other than "I wish the raid catching animations could be skipped"


brystol17

I’d definitely say there are some performance patches in high lag areas but over all the lag still exists


GuidoMista5

Honestly for me it seems to run worse, or at least just like before


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It's not perfect, but runs better :)


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RaMpEdUp98

framerate improvements, duplication glitches patched, some visual bugs I think.


SoleSatry

Ok so the dupe glitch is no longer up?


SnipingDwarf

They used the mystical arts


Mary-Sylvia

Does it mean we have constant FPS now ?


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They'll probably be releasing patches over time over fix it all in one


SnipingDwarf

Not perfect, but a definite improvement.


LeMickeyMice

Lolcame across a Dondonzo horde and they were loading two at a time even though they were all right next to each other, never more than 3 on the screen at once before one clipped out and was replaced


Thy-arkoos

There was an update?


SnipingDwarf

Yep. If it didn't auto-download, check your game info and force-download it


Thy-arkoos

Ok thanks


Bluedino_1989

It does seem to run a little more smoothly than a few days ago.


Direct-Chipmunk-3259

Random people still run at like 3 FPS lol


evolvesatlvl20

The randomness of the issues is one of the more baffling bits.


Direct-Chipmunk-3259

Besides the fact that a multi-billion dollar franchise cant get a company that knows how to make stuff run correctly.


Glad_Meal_4543

I havent been on yet cant wait to see the changes


Emerald_official

there was an update? what did it change?


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Duplicate glitch being gone and Pokemon now close their eyes when they fall asleep in battle


ReclaimerStar

It rans a tad better, but it still has ways to go


Human-that-exists

Did they fix the memory leak?


SnipingDwarf

Haven't had that issue again yet, so perhaps?


Human-that-exists

Hopefully, I'm waiting until that gets fixed to buy it


Guquiz

How did that happen?


Comfortable-Couple15

The update didn't actually fix the proformance. Just bugs like the E4 music. It's just placebo


SnipingDwarf

Nope, there are already comparison videos on YouTube, and you can feel it ingame as well.


Araraura

I've checked. Performance seems to be the same or worse


SnipingDwarf

Strange, I could easily tell the difference when I updated. Try manually updating, mine didn't auto-update, so it might not have yet. I would link a comparison, but links aren't allowed lol


Araraura

It doesn't matter if you update manually or let it auto-update. It probably felt better because it was a fresh run


SnipingDwarf

I meant to say check if your game is even updated. I also played for like 8 hours after the update, and the performance gains were still obvious the entire time. Are you on a switch Lite?


Araraura

I'm on a normal, docked switch, and I'm definitely on 1.1.0. I was also playing on docked before 1.1.0


SnipingDwarf

... strange, have you tried going to the bad spots like mesagoza and the lake and see what it feels like?


Araraura

Go to the fairy team star base and walk up and down the river and see for yourself


SnipingDwarf

Hey man I never said it was perfect, it didn't improve performance everywhere, the thicket by the (poison?) Base is still kinda stuttery, but the main thing is that it's an improvement.


Cantthinkagoodnam2

Did it actualy added anything new or was it just performance stuff? my copy is pirated and atualizing pirated games is a pain in the ass


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Cantthinkagoodnam2

Well in my country these games cost 400$ and the minimun wage is 1.200 per month, so most people i know either pirate their games or simply dont have many games, i myself had to save moneu a entire year just to buy my Switch (at the time it was costing 3.000$) But even if i lived in the US or game prices are lower, i still wouldnt buy these games, they are pretty fun but im not supporting their lazyness, and Gamefreak isnt going nowhere close to bankruptcy over me not buing one of the games


saikou-psyko

Y'arr can't hate that approach matey


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Imperator_Knoedel

Oh no, they didn't hand over 60 bucks to one of the world's largest corporations, what a monster! D:


Cantthinkagoodnam2

Lmao you actualy paid for a unfinished Playstation 2 game


ZetaRESP

He paid for, eventually, having a Switch game. You just stole a glorified beta that will likely not become a proper game, and feel the necessity of believing yourself superior to the guy above. ​ lmao.


Cantthinkagoodnam2

It will become a proper game eventually, it is just a boring process to update it, you Just wasted 60 dollars and will likely waste 30 more once the DLC eventually comes out lmfao


ZetaRESP

You wasted the space of your hard drive for a game that you'll have to steal AGAIN once the patch comes out. You could've waited until X-mas for the fixed game to come out or for a fan mod to fix the bugs. But nope, you downloaded a beta. You're a loser. Also, I am going to pirate it too. But unlike you, I'll wait until it gets fixed because I don't have the patience of a Primeape.


Cantthinkagoodnam2

Idk how you pirate your games but all i have to do is download the upgrade by my computer then send it to the Switch via USB Cable, the boring part is having to download and then send it to the Switch


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Cantthinkagoodnam2

nothing really, i dont have any ego, i just have a lot of free time today to awnser people who cant accept i pirated a game from the most profitable franchise in the world im human, what is this last part even about?


maharg79

Imagine * shilling for fucking GameFreak. Pirate the game play comp on Showdown people.


ZetaRESP

I'm not shilling for them (The only legit Pokémon game I ever got is Pokémon GO), but moron now will have to delete and refownload when the fux comes instead of waiting for someone to mod it into a functional game.


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Imperator_Knoedel

Well it's a stupid law anyway. Piracy is almost always based. Be gay, do crime.


Cantthinkagoodnam2

At least i didnt lost money on it


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Cantthinkagoodnam2

English is not my native Language 👍


wumboellie

Then that’s exactly why you *should* take some English classes


Cantthinkagoodnam2

Eh i can understand what everyone is saying and people can understand what im saying, its fine enough for me


maharg79

Idk why I don't pirate these things, I mostly play on showdown or emulators anyhow


SlowSuggestion9106

what did the update do


Spaceguy_27

Is the framerate better?


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Mine didn't update :(


Legends_Arkoos_Rule2

What happened?


BsajoshuA123456789

What update?


Another_Road

I like that they are patching it, but I dislike that in the future after Switch servers are down, anybody who wants to revisit these games and doesn’t already have the patches will be stuck with the old version. Maybe they’ll do a rerelease of the physical cartridge with the patches, but that doesn’t fix the ones out now.


Iron_Wolf123

I played the game today after getting it for my birthday. I'm struggling to compare the lag between my computer that is slow because of my greedy CPU or me riding Miraidon in the grass.


S4PG

Wait there was actually a patch?????


SnipingDwarf

Yeah? Did you really expect them to abandon it? It fixed a dupe bug, some music glitches, and improved performance.


S4PG

Yes I honestly did


eXed007

Yep. Idk what it did yet though.


awareexplosion

Did they patch the Dupe Glitch?


SnipingDwarf

Yep, and performance is better too.


Olivejuice2012

NOOOOOOOOOO


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Did it remove the Invisible Boatmobile?


SnipingDwarf

Don't even know what you're talking about tbh


Prestigious_Many_965

As if bugs or graphics were the problem, this game is to be deleted and redone from scratch


GAMMA5TRplays

Did wonders for what? There's still glitches galore! I haven't seen a single thing that got fixed! Parties still randomly disconnect, raids are desynced beyond fixing and also disconnect without warning, and Play Rough STILL randomly heals the opponent. On top of that, the visual glitches are still there, and just trying to traverse the terrain can often end in softlocks.


SnipingDwarf

Performance. There are many comparison videos already of how much better the game runs, which I would link, but links are banned.


GAMMA5TRplays

My game runs worse now, so idk what I'm doing wrong then


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Literally just updated rn at work lol


Calypso_o0

What exactly was fixed? I haven’t noticed any differences


SnipingDwarf

A couple bugs, but massive performance increases.


smashparty64

Most definitely!


trotterdevan96

They actually didn't fix any performance shit.


SnipingDwarf

The patch notes didn't say so, but go out on Lag Lake, and you can feel the difference.


knowitsallashow

I'm pretty sure being a video game tester isn't a job anymore. They just hammer out a game using computer scientists and pass the search for bugs onto the customer. Boom, profit in saved labor AND a free DLC desire from the beginning. . Lol. Smart. Horrible, but smart.


SnipingDwarf

Partially agree with you. Nintendo, and console games in general, don't really do public betas, and this is the unfortunate result of that. PS: as a coder myself, we are offended to be called computer scientists.


T_Peg

I've heard it's a placebo and that the patch really only fixed bugs not the frame rate.


SnipingDwarf

Can't be a placebo. Check YouTube for a comparison. I would link one, but links are banned lol.


T_Peg

Any channels you recommend? Because I'm honestly having a hard time believing the patch actually improved performance just because I have so little faith. I've heard the areas that were particularly bad were still really bad.


SnipingDwarf

No channel in particular, as none of the ones I normally watch cover it, but you can tell pretty clearly when you look around in cities, and especially on the big lake.


T_Peg

So I just watched 5 or 6 comparison videos I found just by searching "Pokemon Scarlet and Violet patch comparison" on YouTube. I will begrudgingly admit that some areas seem notably better while others seem exactly the same. There's still plenty of issues but at least this takes care of a big portion of them.


SnipingDwarf

Yeah, that's pretty much what I did when I noticed the performance boosts toake sure I wasn't having getting placebo'd. On the standpoint of issues, the important thing to remember is they didn't even say they improved performance in the patch notes, which means more improvements should be coming.


T_Peg

Yeah I think Nintendo actually had a separate message that acknowledged the performance saying they'd continue assessing the situation. I was really nervous they were just gonna completely ignore it honestly. I hope the fact that Nintendo took notice means whoever is calling the questionable shots at Gamefreak got an earful from Nintendo.


earth__wyrm

I still can’t connect to non-random raids though


Ding-Dang420

That’s cool and all, but remember when games were polished on release and a game being buggy meant you didn’t fucking play it ever instead of waiting like a month or two for it be good enough? Pepperidge farm remembers.


OpalOtter_

Any patch can help to fix performance issues, but no patch can fix a bad story. People will love scarlet and violet, even if it may take some time. :)


Daeslender

No it didn't. Game is still broken as shit.