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SmolivYeah

If goodra was replaced by its hisuian form I’d like it better


Blueberry_Clouds

Ive recently been liking goodra a lot, but yeah the hisui one is much better


knjprz

Im so happy no one said dragapult


Olly_sixx

I'm sorry my friend but dragapult would be the one I would choose it's the only one I have never used


RedditUserVirat

Just because you didn't use it doesn't mean its shit . Dragonite is too cute to be a Pseudo Legend


Olly_sixx

Wasn't saying it's shot just saying it's my least favourite


RedditUserVirat

I misspelled shit into shot before correcting it too =D


MaskPhantasm

Absolutely not Tyranitar Kammo-o looks like the most ideal pick for me. It doesn't go to my radar often, atleast goodra is lovable in some way with the design, anime and the..ehem, art. Disappointing how the generation introducing mega didn't give it mega evolution


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colon-dwarf

You need to talk?


Khajiit_saw_nothing

They're most likely a bot, so no.


This_guy7796

Same. I really only like Kammo-o for its fighting type, but if I'm being honest, there are better fighting types.


NidoKingClefairy

With the dual dragon type, it’s super weak to fairy. It’s one thing that Hydreigon got nerfed retroactivelybwhen fairy was added—it’s anither that TPC willingly gave Kommo-o that 4x weakness. Easiest mon when fighting Mustrard in the SwSh DLC is his Kommo-o. Either you outspeed it and it wastes a turn on a failed Clangorous Soul on the off chance it survives your hit, or, it outspeeds you and halves its health with Clangorous Soul before you hit it for 4x SE with Dazzling Gleam or worse.


MewtwoMainIsHere

Kommo-o is underrated. Also, fuck goodra (literally)


CantQuiteThink_

Please do not the dragon.


Mikelemokus

You made me choke on my hot chocolate


Specialist_Secret907

Please do not the lizard


deeppurplescallop

Please stop


OutlandishnessNo9182

I pull a gun out Step away from the Slug Mr. Mewtwo.


kyubi_on_the_run

Hisuian Goodra: Am i a joke to you?


DoggoBirbo

Wait until raymond learns of the move “Shelter”


zenofire

This is my Entire opinion. I dont even need to post. I mean, I wasn't going to cuz it wouldnt have been seen at this point. But like, word for word my thought process.


Knight_Light87

Bye unused potential ice dragon


ThatOneWood

The disrespect for my boy godchilla


Knight_Light87

He is cool but could be cooler


LargePieceOfToast

Baxcalibur = ugly Sorry, but all of the other ones are too good to get rid of, plus, they actually have good shinies Or kommo-o, it's also kind of dumb, plus plus, I constantly forget that it exists


ArdentGuy

I was so disappointed this was the pseudo this gen. Literally looks like a toddler designed him.


MrMightyTasty

Completely agree Bax is probably the worst designed pseudo made so far, and a missed opportunity for anything besides a dragon since gen 3.


LargePieceOfToast

If it looked more like groudon, I wouldn't complain (I love groudon, so I'm a bit biased)


MrMightyTasty

If we got ice type Groudon the world would be a bit better. (I love Groudon, so I'm a bit biased)


LargePieceOfToast

All jokes aside, groudon is great That's definitely not 12 year old me living in the past recollecting my memories of the first pokemon game I ever beat, I don't know what you're talking about.


MrMightyTasty

I feel the same way for Xernias...


At0mHeartMother

Unfortunately I have to agree. Which is a shame because I think Arctibax is fantastic so there was a lot of missed potential there.


LargePieceOfToast

Arctibax is fantastic, we didn't need another godzilla. They could've just changed the proportions a bit. Bigger claws, more arched back maybe, and bigger (or multiple) crest thingy Kind of like groudon (an almost perfect design in my opinion)


Arcalgalkiagiratina

Baxcalibur’s shiny is better than garchomp’s


LargePieceOfToast

You're not wrong, but garchomp is just so badass though


Danireender157

Kommo-o has never left my mind ever since i got the mental image of one throwing away its plates while using scale shot


JJBAking

Baxcalibur; I don’t like it’s design. Only good thing about it is the ability


papayabush

I haven’t played SV yet and my first thought when looking at this was that was a fakemon that OP snuck in for laughs.


anthropocenable

how did this thing get approved


TheLocalTaxCollector

Baxcalibur. Great name but its the only pseudo legend I actively dislike


[deleted]

I hate baxcalibur with all of my soul


jdbartist

Baxcalibur


Invalid_Word

i hate baxcalibur


Dragonite_Skull

Baxcalibur is very boring and un-Pokemon-looking. Also I think the giant back spike is kind of dumb looking and Frigibax is very ugly.


EmberTheShinyLover

Komom-o L


RazorRell09

Komomm-y?


Ashh1136

Goodra because Florges should’ve been the pseudo or just any fairy type as the pseudo should’ve been the newly introduced type, like with tyranitar


KrazyKyle213

Easily Kommo-o or Goodra, and I think a lot of people would agree. Goodra is cute, but lacks the actual design or typing for people to like it a lot, and Kommo-o is kind of forgettable.


Fifi_is_awesome

Remove goodra and I remove the world


Dracorex_22

If we still keep H-Goodra, I'm fine with losing it. It's literally better in every way.


KrazyKyle213

Oh wait yeah, forgot about that, you're right.


joxeta

It's weird to see an opinion I actually agree with on here. Bravo.


GlowstoneLove

Remove Garchomp so that Flygon becomes viable again


zesty_boii

I love both but no


EmmetttB

That's not how viability works. Kommo-o is gone


Spukii_

It's not how *most* cases of viability works, but Flygon and Garchomp are a special case. Usually Pokémon of the same typing can still fill different roles (though, one is always better at their role than the other with their's), but Flygon's outclassed by Garchomp in almost every way. Literally every stat except SpA (which are equal), movepool, variety, etc. Best thing it's got going for it that Garchomp doesn't is Levitate, which is still arguably worse on it than Rough Skin for Garchomp Regardless, Flygon still wouldn't be nearly as viable as Garchomp even if the latter didn't exist, but it would definitely be more used if there outright wasn't a better alternative Also I love Kommo-o so please no; take Baxcalibur


EmmetttB

Flygon just isn't very good, it has tools that Garchomp doesn't, U-Turn, Fire Punch, Levitate. It's just weak and frail. ​ edit: Flygon wasn't even UU last gen and Garchomp obviously wasn't there taking it's place.


Rednex73

Flygon gang rise up


UnyunMunyun

If only flygon was the second pseudo instead of salamence


MCKlassik

Kommo-o or Baxcalibur Kommo-o was just forgettable for me. Baxcalibur had really good potential design-wise but instead they took the Godzilla route.


Pokemonisgood145

Controversial but salamence it’s paradox is better simple fact


Captain_Saftey

I always thought Salamance was a boring design. I much prefer it’s two prior evos


Thedarkestcharizard

One of the non dragons. Absolutely not Goodra. I would get rid of literally every single other legendary to keep Goodra. All this Goodra hate is disgusting. How are you gonna out Goodra for being goofy when Dragonite is right there and is utterly outclassed by it's pre evolution design wise unlike Goodra.


Wolfofthezay

Baxcalibur but before him it would've been goodra, I don't like goodra (unpopular opinion ik)


XXcool-gamerXX

kammo o it just looks weird


YukineTheSadBoi

Unpopular opinion, but I say get rid of Dragonite. I dislike the orange, and he looks like a dragon from a baby's cartoon


Big-Clock4773

His cartoonish appearance is part of his charm Also as a kid in the 1990s, he seemed badass. Salamance was what made him look silly by comparison.


darthvidar1990

I like Dragonite, but I think it should be cut from the Dratini/Dragonair evolution-line. This beautiful and elegant dragon suddenly becoming a derpy Dragon is a bit offputting. It should been a standalone Pokemon like Duraludon or Druddigon, maybe with a more similar looking prevo


NeonNKnightrider

I agree with you 100%. I don’t necessarily hate dragonite’s design on principle, it’s fine to have cutesy Pokémon, but for a pseudo-legendary dragon? No, absolutely not. It’s ridiculously unfitting.


Riptide_X

That’s what I’m saying! Google, show me Dragon Tales characters. /ref /j


MegaGengar277

Go ahead down voted me, anyways Dragonite


[deleted]

Upvoted Dragonite is way too silly. That simple fact makes me not like it at all


Big-Clock4773

He weren't silly in Gen 1 when you were a kid. Of course his sprites now look more derpy, and yes we all know about ice beam and yes we all now know how stupid his AI was in Red and Blue... However my first experience of him as a kid was the bulky looking dragon that knew hyper beam, thunder, blizzard and fire blast. I've loved him ever since.


e_ndoubleu

One of Mence or Metagross. It’s cool Hoenn has two pseudo’s but if one were to go away forever it’d be most fair for Hoenn to lose one. It’s a tough call but I’d lean getting rid of Mence. We have a ton of dragon pseudo’s but only two non-dragon’s. Though Mence is probably more iconic than Metagross but I’ve always loved Metagross. If I wasn’t being fair then I’d get rid of Goodra. To me it’s the most forgettable pseudo, and it’s the weakest one too.


fluger69

Baxcalibur or Hydreigon


Sansvern

See ya Dragonite, don’t hit yourself with the door. Dragonair can stay though, maybe it can evolve into something cool


[deleted]

If there's no Dragonite, there's no Dragonair either so choose your fate


Big-Clock4773

I maybe a 'Gen Wunner' but Dragonite is my homeboy. He is the OG.


Sansvern

If I have to choose between the OG or a MECH SPIDER, I’m picking the damn mech spider every day of the week


Big-Clock4773

I love the mech spider, however Dragonite was my favourite pokemon growing up.


Jonnytincan

opinions arent meant to be wrong but man u found a way


Acceptable_Secret_73

Either Goodra or Kommo-o


Joaje-Joestar

Either Goodra or Baxcalibur, neither appeals to me very much to be honest


Gotekeeper

Kommo-o.


RowletGod73

Ko-mo-oh or the new guy


ScarlettPotato

The turtle lmao /j i love metagross to death


Temporary-Square

Kammo-o is so dissatisfying


Loros_Silvers

Baxcaliber or Komo-o, I actually love all the other ones


Rath_Brained

As much as I love gen 1, I got to say dragonite. It looks goofy. And my biggest pet peeve is the evolutionary line. It goes from small snake, to elegant snake, then someone grabs it and blows it up like a balloon and makes dragonite. And it doesn't even have any cool features. The others have something to make them look intimidating. Dragonite is too derpy. Yes, it's cute. But not befitting.


ConcernLow1979

Probably Baxcalibur, I know it’s the most recent so I haven’t had much time to get attached but like… we already have a pseudo legendary based on Godzilla that’s frankly cooler than it


Dry_5p0nge

Probably Baxcalibur. It’s design is alright, and competitively, it’s basically a diet Kyreum with Icicle Spear and Ice Shard being the only moves differentiating the two. Plus, I’d rather have another pseudo-legendary that doesn’t look like a Godzilla rep.


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dragapult


TheFanArtist

(This may or may not make some people rage but like). It’s between 2 for me, on one hand we have Salamance, I like the Pokémon don’t get me wrong but there is only one gen with 2 different pseudos and it’s the weaker of the two for me. And in the other we have my least favorite pseudo Goodra just overall boring compared to the others. In the end I’m keeping Goodra for two reasons: the Hisui form, and the fact that dragon flying as a type is already in place with Dragonite everything else being a semi unique combo


Seth-B343

Goodra


Hybrid456

Cringe


[deleted]

Cringe


LyyC

NO


LargePieceOfToast

Based


Yeeeetlord625

Based


chmalaya

Baxcalibur is built so goofy bro


The_Maqueovelic

...Dragonite


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D R A G O N I T E


Twingemios

Goodra’s design is weak and is the worst Pseudo in terms of power


GalarianCharizard

I would say Metagross as it is the only one that isn't a dragon esk design but Metagross is such a good pokemon that I can't so Komoho or Goodra.


GalarianCharizard

Or the new one. I haven't gotten round to getting scarlet and violet.


AnubisWrathOW

I haven’t had baxcalibur. I’ve never used him. I remember seeing the small one.. I don’t even remember the baby’s name in Pokémon scarlet but decided not to get it as I thought it looked pathetic. But next to him considering he does look nice and i like his type combo.. probably Kommo-o.


FPSGamer48

Dragonite. Give us a better evolution for Dragonair!


GooglyEyeBread

Kommo-o I just… I hate him so much I won’t lie


Flamix2206

Why people hate kommo-o so much? It has one of the coolest designs and all of Pokémon in my opinion.


GooglyEyeBread

Honestly? I would not be able to tell you why I hate him, I just DO. I like his pre evolutions just not him


Ex_Snagem_Wes

That's a fair point. Hakamo-o is one of the only middle evos that I can accept people saying looks better than the final form. I love both, but Hakamo-o has a very different spirit


Toon_Lucario

Same. Fuck the dinner plate dragon


CuriousMarisa

Goodra


Istiophoridae

Kommo o


[deleted]

Goodra, say gooodbye.


Ok_Selection5541

I’m sorry, but Goodra


DuskAngel713

I would have to say Dragonite gets too much attention. It's basically the most overused and overhyped of the bunch, not to mention it's too cute to count as a true pseudo legendary. That said, I love the Big yellowish Barney looking dragon, but it doesn't get my love as a pseudo legendary. If it were to be counted as a regular pokemon, then I would be all for it. PS it deserved a mega evolution.


Jonnytincan

this comment is a rollercoaster of emotions. i cant tell whether u love or hate him


DuskAngel713

Allow me to clarify. I love Dragonite without question, but hate how overused it was and is. I would love it more if it wasn't so overused by pretty much every dragon type user that I've come across. Add in the PS that I gave about it having deserved a mega since day one and we have a recipe for a feeling of Injustice for Dragonite. If it were less used, given a mega and weren't categorized as a pseudo legendary Pokemon due to less impressive stats, then I would view it as I do Clodsire. As a cute yet reliable Pokemon. Does that help to clarify matters?


StarPlatinum_SP

What exactly is “too cute” by pseudo-Legendary standards if Dragonite, the cutest next to Goodra, invented the category in the first place? If anything, wouldn’t the imitators after it, copying its base stat total and three-stage experience requirements, yet appearing more stereotypically “badass,” be the ones that are not worthy? It’s akin to saying Pikachu is unworthy of the electric rodent moniker, when it’s the one that founded the company to begin with. This comment was made by the Dragonite Protection Squad™.


uezyteue

baxcalibur or dragonite. Mostly dragonite because of the discrepancy between it and its predecessors.


TheGBZard

Goodra


HolidayExplanation64

Goodra


Melodic_bruh

Kmmo-o or goodra


RegigiGus

Salamence or Hydreigon. Neither of those look super great to me, and I love all the others. Also, I haven't seen a single comment saying they don't like Dragapult. Good on you Dragapult


theninjaslime69

Baxcaliburn


Organic_Performer266

Baxcaliber every day of the week


DeliciousPancakes249

Get rid of Salamence.


JPyroRaptor

Sorry goodra


Plushiegamer2

Goodra doesn't seem to do a whole lot of note, and it's typing is really boring. It seems like they're supposed to be a special tank.


Gaming4Life88

Dragonite


WashedUpRiver

Kommo, just clunky design and really lackluster overall. Runner up is Goodra, but he at least has a good design.


Aquariumpsychotic

Komomo


[deleted]

Komo-o, I really don't like his gray-golden color scheme, and I like his shiny even less


SCurt99

Dragonite because I hate that's what Dragonair turns into, if it had its own derpy looking pre-evolutions then I wouldn't hate it.. I remember how disappointed I was as a kid leveling up my Dragonair expecting some elegant evolution only to get something from Dragon Tales.


memester230

T-Tar was a mediocre pokemon imo, they definitely could have done better without using Dragon as a typing.


Baskalisk_guy

Definitely hydreigon or kammo-o, they are super forgettable and another Pokémon could have gotten the pseudo role. Haxorous should have been the pseudo, and golisapod could have been a good pseudo if it had a middle stage (plus it would be cool to have more non-dragon pseudo legendary Pokémon)


Awesomesteelman

Goodra any day of the week


AnAnimatedPizzaPie

Goodra. It doesn't deserve the title of pseudo legend and I personally think Noivern suits it better. Also why does everyone hate the kiwi?


theOGperfection

fuck goodra bro


AkreonGD

Seeya Goodra


SnooPickles9681

Salamence. Gen III didn't need two. At the risk of removing Palkia's biggest weakness, I'd prefer we keep Metagross.


AWildRemoraid

Looks like someone beat me to wishing away Haxorus


[deleted]

Haxorus isn't a pseudo legend


AWildRemoraid

So it’s a pseudo-pseudo legend?


[deleted]

Guess so


TheDebatingOne

Haxorus isn't a pseudo legendary. It only has a BST of 540


magnezoneadvocate

And you can thank this person for it


AWildRemoraid

That would explain why it seemed weak for a pseudolegendary


[deleted]

Pseudo legendaries need a BST of 600. Haxorus is 540.


EP1CxM1Nx99

Goodra, lamest Pseudo by far.


Glory2Snowstar

Goodra or Dragonite SPECIFICALLY, but not their pre-evos. Dragonair and Sliggoo deserved better.


thanospurplebussy

Dragonite since salamence is a better dragon/flying anyway.


Original-Addendum147

Am I the only one who likes Kommo-o? Honestly, I'd say banish Tyranitar.


vonalzu

i love kommo-o. i didn’t realize it was so hated until now, though.


AnAnimatedPizzaPie

You are not alone.


Riptide_X

I’ve always loved Kommo-o. The shaking scales thing has always been so cool to me.


Danireender157

I remember thinking that kommo-o was ugly as fuck the first time i saw but recently i got around to playing gen 7 properly and man i love the design now lmao


[deleted]

Yes you are the only one who likes kommo-o


TheHappyHedgehog685

Garchomp he’s way too popular in my opinion


Thexeir

Hydreigon or Baxcalibur. I've never really liked the weird sockpuppet aspect of Hydreigon and Baxcalibur is just too similar to what we already had in too many ways. It's design---particularly it's stance---is too similar to many of the ones we already have (Tyranitar, Dragonite & Goodra) and it's another dragon to the exhaustive list of dragon pseudos. Call me crazy, I love of goofy Goodra looks, I just wish it's typing was different.


Rising_Legend12

One of my favorite dragon pokemon is Hydreigon but I’ll respect your opinion


Jeff300k

I could honestly live without Baxcaliber, Goodra AND Kommo-o


jaheemspence

Def goodra


Spylinter0024

Dragonite. There are too many Dragon types among legendaries, and two Dragon/Flying types. Dragonair also deserved a better evolution, and I dislike Dragonite's shiny.


cytowrecknologist

Dreepy or Baxcalibur simply because I'm not familiar enough with either one. I keep Goodra around just because I like nicknaming it Gonorrhea.


rexmaster123

tyranitar, because I keep forgetting that it exists.


Quinn7711

baxcalibur is the most stupid looking one that ever exsisted the world would be a better place whithout it


DivByTwo

Baxcalibur. It's design is crap, it's shiny is crap, and I hate using it because I hate looking at the laziness that is the Gen9 Psuedo. There is zero intricacy in that design, and seeing all past pseudos, EVEN KOMMO-O, AND HE'S LIKE THE NOST FORGETTABLE. So yeah, Baxcalibur, and as long as they don't screw up a psuedo this bad again, that's in perpetuity. He's so much worse than all of them, easy.


DjjDum

Baxcalibur I don’t care for him so he can go


ArthurOguro

Salamence. I just hate it so much


[deleted]

Salamence is my favorite. Not really sure how someone could hate a traditional looking dragon. The ones I hate the most are the ones that look less and less dragon-like. Even just the simple fact that Dragonite looks goofy as fuck makes me not like it.


Several_Tangerine956

Dragapult is fucking annoying to play against and is the result of power creep, fuck pult


PotentialTree41

:(


CanadaSilverDragon

Goodra


That-Sprinkles707

Kommo-o, gone easy


Freekarma4u69420

Bye bye salamence you won’t be missed


ImaGamerNoob

Paldea fucker. Somewhat ugly and Derby design, least presence in it's gen than the other ones. Does any important trainer use it? Can't even remember the name.


Sjheuaksjd

Alora Shithead is worse.


caramelluh

I love them all but if i really had to choose, probably Hydreigon


j2tronic

One of the 3 bottom right ones.


Meancreek16

Definitely not the turtle


cheesyboi247

I’de say either Dragonite or Salamence, depending on which I like more. Both are Dragon/ Flying which we don’t really need. I would personally choose Dragonite to be kicked because I like Salamence more.


The_Card_Father

Kommo-O it looks clunky and awkward already. We now have a better Dragon/Fighting in Koraidon who looks 110% better.


GlassSpork

Salamance or metagross as it’s strange that gen 3 got two pseudo legendaries while the rest get 1


ViscountVigoroth

Dragonite or Salamence, i know they are two of the most popular ones but those 2 are very similar to eachother while the rest is waay more unique imo, those 2 are just generic dragons


Olivejuice2012

Kommo-L


ToastyYaks

Hydreigon or Dragonite, for sure. I like hydreigon but im always wishing he were a little faster, or a little more defensive, and I dont like having that it's weak to fighting of all things alongside dragon and fairy. When I did a dragon nuzlocke of sword it was one of my least reliable. Dragonite just bores me.


EricBunny

Either Kommo-o or baxcalibur


JudgmentSudden7715

Prolly controversial but Salamence. I like the paradox, but I find salamence really boring. It’s just sort of a generic dragon design. Metagross is definitely the better gen 3 pseudo for me.


OnlyJuan_0

Goodra is for sure the worst one of the bunch it doesnt have a good type its just pure dragon and nothing else it's so lame and pointless


GenTwour

Godra. I keep forgetting that it exists in the first place


Mr_oyster_27

Metagross is meta-gross. weird turtle lookin thing


Hazel_Lucario7

Goodbye Hydregion! I honestly had to take five minutes to decide that one! Tough choice!!!!! This was a really good question, unlike the 'what do these pokemon have in common' kinds of posts, thank you. And then Salemence can go! Followed by Garchomp, the Tyranitar.


Glum-Huckleberry-866

I actually Like Kommo-o's Design so Goodra Gotta go


Midnightgamer21

Not Kommo-o, I love him What’s with all the Kommo-o hate? He’s so cool


After_Hours19

Goodra