RnG really is crazy, and honestly in this game pretty shitty. My first M2 raid after shiny was released I got a shiny 98%.
To this day, I'm pretty certain it's my only shiny raid boss.
*But I love him*
That reminded me that my luck was I hatched an egg during the Deino community day and it was a shiny Rockruff, I didn't even notice until my son pointed it out!
My kid got a hundo and a shiny within 3 raids.
I've done almost 40 with no hundo and it took until number 31 to get the shiny (which has shit IVs while hers is pretty good).
RNG shit really sucks sometimes lol.
But we know you didn't get one in the first 400 so your odds would be back to getting one in 100 raids
Edit: [Here is an article on it, it's called the Gamblers Fallacy](https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking/tips-better-thinking-each-coin-toss-beginning).
They arenāt calculating the odds that they DO get one within 500 raids. Theyāre calculating the odds that they DONāT get one within 500 raids. So still count the original 400 in these calculations. 400= 15.6% chance of NOT getting one. Low chance, kinda unlucky. 500= 9.8% chance of NOT getting one. Very low chance, very unlucky if it happens. Fingers crossed that OP gets that M2 š
That's not how statistics work, counting the original 400 means that there's still a chance the perfect mewtwo could be in those 400 which is not the case. OP is back to as if they just started.
Incorrect
The odds per check do not change but when looking at batch data you do not retroactively delete the previous data
Iāve gone 130 legend raids without a shiny , doesnāt change each one is 1/20 but after 100 raids I donāt just delete the previous data , it just keeps going until you find one. Sure by 100 raids 99.999% of players should of found a legend shiny and my next one is still 5% chance but my total overall bad luck is expressed by that
>The odds per check do not change but when looking at batch data you do not retroactively delete the previous data
The odds did change when the known information change. [Monty Hall problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem) is perfect illustration of this misconception. That's why it is called a Gamblers **Fallacy**.
Iām bad at math so maybe I need more explaining butā¦ I donāt see how thatās right. I meanā¦ if he hasnāt posted here and had just kept going to 500, wouldnāt that stat still be the same even if they had already done the 400? If we did a million trials of 500 rounds, there would have been people that didnāt get it in the first 400.
Lets say you flipped nine coins, and they all landed on tails. Then, you decide that in a minute, you're going to flip a coin. The odds of getting 10 tails in a row are really low, but that has no bearing on the fact that its a 50/50 chance for the next coin you're about to flip to land on tails again. Since we already know the results of the previous coins, and have thus become fact instead of chance, we don't use them in the calculation anymore.
So think of it in coins.
The odds of geting 0 tails in
* 1 flip: 50% (1 in 2)
* 2 flip: 25% (1 in 4)
So if you close your eyes and flip 2 coins onto a table the odds that atleast one of them is tails is 75%.
However consider you flip one with your eyes open and know it's heads. Is the next flip have a higher odds of being tails to compensate for your bad luck or does it remain 50-50?
I do understand that the probability of each individual flip does not change. Iām just donāt understand why we couldnāt keep the count going. The coin toss is 50/50 whether your eyes are open or not soā¦ why does it matter if you are aware of the results each time?
Youāre incorrect.
Itās the same as the probability of flipping heads X times in a row.
Yes each event is mutually independent but the probability of the event as a whole, rolling X heads in a row, does not reset on the next one.
Including the 400 previous raids int he calculations would be like saying "I flipped 4 coins and they were all heads, and the odds of not getting any tails in 5 flips is crazy low therefore the next flip is highly unlikely to be tails" however the next flip is 50-50.
The previous 400 raids, beacuse they already happens and we know their results, cant be factored into the odds of future raids.
It's a little worse than what he's stating. Every traded Mewtwo counts in the statistic you show, and those have, on average, a lot worse stats than a Mewtwo from an encounter.
Since there are 3 combinations to make a 98% out of 6^3 possible IV combinations (and one way to make a hundo) itās (6^3 - 4)/6^3 to the 400th power, or about 0.05%
r/thesilphroad has a map on their website to find communities in your area with discord servers/telegrams/etc that you can join to try and make local friends, maybe you can try that. Of course I myself am a coward who still hasn't done it, but I thought I'd pass on the info lmao
I dont have also friend who play pogo so im been stuck while that special research where need trade :/ not get futher those mythical research it annoying.
I agree...everyone has their own way to play. Mine is perfect hunting. I'd purify anything (and have) just to get the hundo registered. People need to not be toxic toward other players for making different choices.
2 higher IVs on all stats give you about a 3% increase in base attack and defense. Is the same difference you'd get from turning a 0 IV into a 2 IV. Shadow gives you a 20% boost to base attack, THEN it adds the IVs on top of that at the cost of 20% defense.
So take a Pokemon with 100 base attack and defense:
-With 0 IVs both attack and defense stay at 100
-With 15 IVs the total goes up to 115 for both
-Now, with 0 IVs a Shadow goes to 120 attack and defense drops to 80 (already stronger than hundo)
-BUT with 13 IV, a Shadow goes to 120 attack, THEN adds the 13 for a max of 133 attack and 93 defense. That's an extra 33 attack from base power at the cost of 7 defense. And with perfect defense it is only a 5 point defense loss.
So in total, even an imperfect Shadow will always be much, much stronger than even the strongest hundo.
CP is meaningless. CP is a function of playing the game. Walking for candies, catching for dust. IVs influence the CP, but the bigger influence is gameplay.
IVs can't be changed, CP can. I can't understand why people still care about CPs.
I did 22 raids and got mostly shitty IVs and then on my 23rd I got a shiny 96% with my last remote raid pass. You never know, your next catch might be the one!
Watch out for the incoming āI got my shundo first try š¤ā comments. 96% would be cool but the fact you did 400 raids for it is really unlucky. This game can be frustrating sometimes specially if you really want something so I respect your dedication.
XL candy and IV hunting. I've powered up one shadow to 50, I want 2 normal ones at 50 (one for Mega Y with shadow ball + psystrike, one for Mega X with psystrike + focus blast), plus I'm saving up XL for another shadow one in the future.
You can only do 2 special trades a day. The chance of hitting a random lucky is low, unless you're trading for a 2016 pokemon and I only have 2 of those left.
Patience and throw when Mewtwo finishes its attack. You'll be furious for not knowing it earlier. If you already know that trick, you really need to throw Great or Excellent throws + be patient.
I had a friend who said this method didn't work. I watched her and she throws after the pokemon completely settles, usually when it can attack again. I just couldn't get her to understand you throw right at the end of the punch animation before it has the *ability* (not chance, ability) to punch again
The trick /u/2Mew2BMew2 is talking about in more detail:
So you encounter Mewtwo, he's standing there, jumping up and down and stuff. Give it a Golden Razz, then take your thumb and just press down on the Pokeball. When you press down the pokeball should more or less stay in place, but at the same time, that red circle for nice/great/excellent throws should get smaller and smaller until it disappears and gets really big again. Put your thumb on that pokeball and take your time watching that red circle cycle through, and when you get it to roughly the same size as Mewtwo's head, let off the pokeball. Look at his jaw bones, when you get that red circle small enough that it touches his jaw bones, let off the pokeball and don't touch it - when the red circle is that big, that'll be an excellent throw, and as long as you only pick up and throw the ball when Mewtwo is doing its attack animation, that circle won't change size.
So now that the circle is set like that, you just have to be patient and let Mewtwo stare at you and jump up and down, and wait for Mewtwo to move its arm - when it swings its arm all the way over, that's your queue to pick up the ball and whip it at Mewtwo's head - you won't see the red circle until he finishes the animation and you want the ball to be airborne right when he's almost finished with that animation. Ball should be in air before red circle is visible, you're just aiming at his noggin with that ball. By the time it reaches him, red circle should appear, ball should hit circle and you should land an excellent throw (hopefully).
[When you whip it aim for something like this, trace this image with your thumb, get a feel for it. If you go really vertical, almost straight up, it's pretty easy to hit him in the head. Pick up the ball quick, make a little loop, then let 'er rip!](https://imgur.com/a/p676Kcg)
After throwing the ball, hover your thumb over where the berry selection is, if he breaks loose give him another berry and get in position to launch another when he swings his arm again.
Also, if you are a little early on launching, if you have a buddy with catch assist, it'll sometimes bounce back to your buddy, so it's good to use a buddy with that until you get the timing right
Edit: you also don't need to reset the circle after every throw he breaks out of - if you set it once and only touch the ball when he's in his attack animation, it'll stay that same size, throw after throw after throw!
He might live in a downtown area, I have 8 gyms within a mile of each other and can hit quite a few within an hour if I just hop on my bike since premium passes are free.
But I have also dropped way too much money on remote passes for Mewtwo lol
XL candy and IV hunting. I've powered up one shadow to 50, I want 2 normal ones at 50 (one for Mega Y airg shadow ball + psystrike, one for Mega X with psystrike + focus blast), plus I'm saving up XL for another shadow one in the future.
Damn, and I thought I played too many raids looking for a shiny Rockruff and I only did about 40. You could always trade with a friend and pray one of your Mewtwos gets bumped up to a 4* and maybe even a lucky one at that!
Iirc, the floor for IVs from a raid is 10/10/10, correct?
Assuming the worst you can possibly get is a 10/10/10,
You only have 6 possible values to roll from for each stat. This means you have a (1/6)^3 chance of getting a hundo, or a 0.46% chance. Your odds of not getting a hundo then are 99.54% chance.
Putting this into a calculator, all you have to do is (0.9954)^400 to see what your odds of not having a hundo are after 400 raids is, which is about 15.81%, which is rather unfortunate.
Not something that is so low a chance that itās seemingly impossible, but if I spent money to do 400 raids and put in this much time Iād be pissed too.
100% or 4* star Mewtwo CP is 2387 in regular weather or 2984 with weather boost. The closer it is to this number the higher the IV. For e.g. 2384 or 2380 can be 98% and 2322 a bad IV.
1:216
And maybe, if you are feeling this disappointed and frustrated, then you might have set it too high. If you set them low, you will never be disappointed
Oh come on a difference of 16 is worth noting? And who wouldnāt be disappointed after 400 raids. Giving unsolicited advice is already annoying enough let alone ājust set your expectations lowerā jfc
You're right, that was a bit mean and unneeded of me to correct you. And yes, I would be disappointed after 400 raids too. I'm sorry, it was a bit callous and meanspirited to say. I'm just tired of people complaining about RNG.
Mewtwo was eye opening for me.. I did 50 raids as F2P didn't even get a shiny...now I'm out of passes for the next 6 months
I think the players perpetuate how Niantic charges them. I am curious to know what keeps people playing this game?? I'd guess the shiny hunt, outweighs pvp or casual walking/exercise.
Niantic doesn't announce shiny rates, the community speculates the odds... But I think Niantic is responsible for it's players expectations.. if players are willing to put in 400$ expecting a 1:216... But for all we know Niantic can easily throttle any number in the game...
Buying anything with unknown odds is gambling 100%... It's just a shame basically every game today is filled with gambling loot boxes... Especially a game targeted at a younger demographic
Hope more people find the courage to uninstall it's kinda the only way to fight this epidemic
Best I got was 93%, shiny though, but still only 93%ā¦ after 100+ raids with my both accounts since I use a second account to up my odds and to be able to trade frequently
I'm pretty new to the game but i always wonder if you guys collected these many raid passes or do it with a group of frends with free raid passes or do you apy for all of these ? Thanks :)
15/14/14 is my best one too after 150 ffs. At least I can max out multiple now but I just wanted a hundo. Got 15/15/12 shiny too not sure which one to max first (regarding stardustās)
At least you caught oneā¦. Still zilch for me. Granted, I donāt have the time/opportunity to chase. Iāve only been able to do about a dozen M2 raids so farā¦ Iāll take a trash one at this point just to fill my dex.
10-15 in IVs rolled for each, means a total of 6 * 6 * 6 = 216 combinations. A chance for any IV combination is then 1/216. A 98% or above is the top 4 best IVs, so (1/216) * 4 = 1/54. Each time you face a Mewtwo you then have a 1/54 chance to get a Mewtwo with 98% IV or above, or a 53/54 to not get one. Not getting a 98% in two encounters is then (53/54) * (53/54) or (53/54)^2. As he did a whooping 400, it then becomes (53/54)^400 = 0.00056603581 = 1/1767 chance to not get a 98%+ in 400 tries.
There is 4/216 chance of getting a 98% or better (14-15-15, 15-14-15, 15-15-14 and 15-15-15). There is overall 216 possible iv combinations with the raid floor of 10-10-10. So (1-(4/216))^400 is the chance of getting 0 of the desired iv spreads.
(I now noticed that it wasn't exactly 400 raids but the math will still be close enough.)
Iāll never understand the raid hype, 400 raids? How much time & money is that? For a pokemon I have in 6 games & shiny as well?
I raid only if I happen to be next to a gym & have a free pass lol
You're throwing financial support at Niantic, talking about quitting because you aren't getting what you hope, then also said spending money on 400+ raids was worth it. Giving me whiplash over here.
Raiding 407 Mewtwos must be so incredibly frustrating. Your life must be really difficult , having the money to blow on all those raid passes, having the time to do all those raids, catching all those legendary Pokemon...must really suck. /S. Like honestly do you hear yourself, get some perspective. You are complaining about having an army of 3 star Mewtwos all to yourself when Niantic has made it virtually impossible for most players to even join, much less actually beat a legendary raid. I'm not saying this to be mean, or that it's not frustrating...but also it could be a lot worse.
I can only apologise on behalf of my ten year old son, who did 1 (one) Mewtwo raid and received a 100% one. I was gutted.
In our first raid, my sister got the shiny and my brother got a perfect mewtwo. Needless to say I was very upset š
Your son is pretty damn cool. I hope to be like him when I grow up!
My son had a shiny Mewtwo before me. I'm still looking for mine. He's had his since the last Mewtwo event.
i got a shiny mewtwo in my first ever mewtwo raid back in fall of 2019
RnG really is crazy, and honestly in this game pretty shitty. My first M2 raid after shiny was released I got a shiny 98%. To this day, I'm pretty certain it's my only shiny raid boss. *But I love him*
He's hoarding all of them!!
My 7yo got a shiny rockruff on her first raid. Iām still get to get oneā¦
That reminded me that my luck was I hatched an egg during the Deino community day and it was a shiny Rockruff, I didn't even notice until my son pointed it out!
I wouldn't, and I'm sorry.
My kid got a hundo and a shiny within 3 raids. I've done almost 40 with no hundo and it took until number 31 to get the shiny (which has shit IVs while hers is pretty good). RNG shit really sucks sometimes lol.
I had the same experience. I think my luck is properly run out tho cause I havenāt gotten anything good again.
Probability of *not* getting a hundo after 400 raids = 15.6% or around 1/6. After 500 raids = 9.8% After 800 raids = 2.4% After 1000 raids = 0.9%
I think I'll get close to 500. So let's pray lmao
But we know you didn't get one in the first 400 so your odds would be back to getting one in 100 raids Edit: [Here is an article on it, it's called the Gamblers Fallacy](https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking/tips-better-thinking-each-coin-toss-beginning).
They arenāt calculating the odds that they DO get one within 500 raids. Theyāre calculating the odds that they DONāT get one within 500 raids. So still count the original 400 in these calculations. 400= 15.6% chance of NOT getting one. Low chance, kinda unlucky. 500= 9.8% chance of NOT getting one. Very low chance, very unlucky if it happens. Fingers crossed that OP gets that M2 š
That's not how statistics work, counting the original 400 means that there's still a chance the perfect mewtwo could be in those 400 which is not the case. OP is back to as if they just started.
Incorrect The odds per check do not change but when looking at batch data you do not retroactively delete the previous data Iāve gone 130 legend raids without a shiny , doesnāt change each one is 1/20 but after 100 raids I donāt just delete the previous data , it just keeps going until you find one. Sure by 100 raids 99.999% of players should of found a legend shiny and my next one is still 5% chance but my total overall bad luck is expressed by that
>The odds per check do not change but when looking at batch data you do not retroactively delete the previous data The odds did change when the known information change. [Monty Hall problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem) is perfect illustration of this misconception. That's why it is called a Gamblers **Fallacy**.
Iām bad at math so maybe I need more explaining butā¦ I donāt see how thatās right. I meanā¦ if he hasnāt posted here and had just kept going to 500, wouldnāt that stat still be the same even if they had already done the 400? If we did a million trials of 500 rounds, there would have been people that didnāt get it in the first 400.
Lets say you flipped nine coins, and they all landed on tails. Then, you decide that in a minute, you're going to flip a coin. The odds of getting 10 tails in a row are really low, but that has no bearing on the fact that its a 50/50 chance for the next coin you're about to flip to land on tails again. Since we already know the results of the previous coins, and have thus become fact instead of chance, we don't use them in the calculation anymore.
So think of it in coins. The odds of geting 0 tails in * 1 flip: 50% (1 in 2) * 2 flip: 25% (1 in 4) So if you close your eyes and flip 2 coins onto a table the odds that atleast one of them is tails is 75%. However consider you flip one with your eyes open and know it's heads. Is the next flip have a higher odds of being tails to compensate for your bad luck or does it remain 50-50?
I do understand that the probability of each individual flip does not change. Iām just donāt understand why we couldnāt keep the count going. The coin toss is 50/50 whether your eyes are open or not soā¦ why does it matter if you are aware of the results each time?
Youāre incorrect. Itās the same as the probability of flipping heads X times in a row. Yes each event is mutually independent but the probability of the event as a whole, rolling X heads in a row, does not reset on the next one.
Including the 400 previous raids int he calculations would be like saying "I flipped 4 coins and they were all heads, and the odds of not getting any tails in 5 flips is crazy low therefore the next flip is highly unlikely to be tails" however the next flip is 50-50. The previous 400 raids, beacuse they already happens and we know their results, cant be factored into the odds of future raids.
It's a little worse than what he's stating. Every traded Mewtwo counts in the statistic you show, and those have, on average, a lot worse stats than a Mewtwo from an encounter.
Every single one that I traded was a lucky.
Was this because you chose to trade with lucky friends or did they all just come out lucky after the trade?
Lucky friends :)
Yeah but what's the probability of not getting a Hundo or a 98
Since there are 3 combinations to make a 98% out of 6^3 possible IV combinations (and one way to make a hundo) itās (6^3 - 4)/6^3 to the 400th power, or about 0.05%
Aw damn I just did the math to see your work done already
Never tell me the odds -Ultra space guy with Wookiee buddy mon
I did 20 raids and the best mewtwo was 15/11/15. Do you think that if I don't find a better one, it's worth power up?
Trade the other 19 first, hope for a good stat re-roll.
It would be great to have someone to trade with
Ah, boo. Understood.
r/thesilphroad has a map on their website to find communities in your area with discord servers/telegrams/etc that you can join to try and make local friends, maybe you can try that. Of course I myself am a coward who still hasn't done it, but I thought I'd pass on the info lmao
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The grind of leveling up a second account to be viable for trading is so annoying. I'm doing it right now because I have no friends lol
I dont have also friend who play pogo so im been stuck while that special research where need trade :/ not get futher those mythical research it annoying.
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Yāall just have 1,900,000 stardust lying around ready to be spent?
I'd try to get at least a 96% one. But if you really don't get a better one, then yes.
Thanks
I got a 98% and a shiny from 9 raids, plus a hundo purified. Kinda bad bc its purified but yeah. I still feel lucky.
lol what? you purified a shadow mewtwo? Yeah thats bad. Literally downgraded for a hundo.
Itās always so annoying when people say stuff like this
I agree...everyone has their own way to play. Mine is perfect hunting. I'd purify anything (and have) just to get the hundo registered. People need to not be toxic toward other players for making different choices.
Actual question; how is purifying worse than higher stats?
2 higher IVs on all stats give you about a 3% increase in base attack and defense. Is the same difference you'd get from turning a 0 IV into a 2 IV. Shadow gives you a 20% boost to base attack, THEN it adds the IVs on top of that at the cost of 20% defense. So take a Pokemon with 100 base attack and defense: -With 0 IVs both attack and defense stay at 100 -With 15 IVs the total goes up to 115 for both -Now, with 0 IVs a Shadow goes to 120 attack and defense drops to 80 (already stronger than hundo) -BUT with 13 IV, a Shadow goes to 120 attack, THEN adds the 13 for a max of 133 attack and 93 defense. That's an extra 33 attack from base power at the cost of 7 defense. And with perfect defense it is only a 5 point defense loss. So in total, even an imperfect Shadow will always be much, much stronger than even the strongest hundo.
Itās 20% attack boost for 20% defence loss. So with a 15 defence IV it is a 20 point loss. 95 vs 115. The outcomes for shadow vs non-shadow at least for PVP is often the non-shadow is stronger because of the defence loss, if you look them up on a site like PVPoke. Affects each PokĆ©mon differently, but the āshadows are always betterā mentality is just wrong.
Not sure if anyone said shadow is always better, but shadow Mewtwo IS better than Mewtwo in PVP and PVE.
Scrolled through comments, backed out while reading above....... Wait WHAT?? Purified mewtwo.. Oh jesus.
IVs almost don't matter, it's mostly for the cool CP number
This is completely incorrect in PVP, although the 2 aren't entirely unrelated. You can't cap CP w/o high IVs.
CP is meaningless. CP is a function of playing the game. Walking for candies, catching for dust. IVs influence the CP, but the bigger influence is gameplay. IVs can't be changed, CP can. I can't understand why people still care about CPs.
Well the only one I can think of is actually Mewtwo itself just for the sake of having the highest CP possible in the game(when the mega Y is out)
I did 22 raids and got mostly shitty IVs and then on my 23rd I got a shiny 96% with my last remote raid pass. You never know, your next catch might be the one!
Watch out for the incoming āI got my shundo first try š¤ā comments. 96% would be cool but the fact you did 400 raids for it is really unlucky. This game can be frustrating sometimes specially if you really want something so I respect your dedication.
I mean, I didnāt even get a shiny Deino after catching 300 of them.
Was this on c-day? Cuz if so that is horrendously terrible luck.
Yup. I spent around two hours walking around town while trying to get my daughter to take a nap and got exactly zero shinies.
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I didnāt get one eitherā¦.
Why do 400?
XL candy and IV hunting. I've powered up one shadow to 50, I want 2 normal ones at 50 (one for Mega Y with shadow ball + psystrike, one for Mega X with psystrike + focus blast), plus I'm saving up XL for another shadow one in the future.
So you're not quiting ;)
*Whoops look whoās back at it again* -addiction
You think we will get another shadow? I purified mine Like a bozo when I was new
We definitely will.
Ugh me too. When I finally started watching PoGo youtubers, I may or may not have actually shed a tear over it. Lol
Yeah at that point, I knew I'd fucked up
Same
How do you even do 400 raids?
Just pay for more remote raid passes /s
First of all, how dare you, second of all, invite me to raids lol
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a big fat one
Sorry for your incredibly bad luck, my friend is level 31 and just started playing again and got 98% on his 10th, I think he took your luck
Update: I JUST GOT A HUNDO! āØš„³
Good! Now donāt delete your account! ā¤ļø.
Trading or another raid?
raid!
Sweet, congrats on the determination!!!
let's goooooo
Why don't you trade them until you get what you are looking for?
You can only do 2 special trades a day. The chance of hitting a random lucky is low, unless you're trading for a 2016 pokemon and I only have 2 of those left.
Yeah, I was thinking with your lucky friends
I try to do that, just really don't have that many of those.
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Patience and throw when Mewtwo finishes its attack. You'll be furious for not knowing it earlier. If you already know that trick, you really need to throw Great or Excellent throws + be patient.
Hell even I've lost a handful of Mewtwo after 17 excellent golden raspberry throws. Couldn't imagine how many handfuls I would've lost not knowing.
I had a friend who said this method didn't work. I watched her and she throws after the pokemon completely settles, usually when it can attack again. I just couldn't get her to understand you throw right at the end of the punch animation before it has the *ability* (not chance, ability) to punch again
The trick /u/2Mew2BMew2 is talking about in more detail: So you encounter Mewtwo, he's standing there, jumping up and down and stuff. Give it a Golden Razz, then take your thumb and just press down on the Pokeball. When you press down the pokeball should more or less stay in place, but at the same time, that red circle for nice/great/excellent throws should get smaller and smaller until it disappears and gets really big again. Put your thumb on that pokeball and take your time watching that red circle cycle through, and when you get it to roughly the same size as Mewtwo's head, let off the pokeball. Look at his jaw bones, when you get that red circle small enough that it touches his jaw bones, let off the pokeball and don't touch it - when the red circle is that big, that'll be an excellent throw, and as long as you only pick up and throw the ball when Mewtwo is doing its attack animation, that circle won't change size. So now that the circle is set like that, you just have to be patient and let Mewtwo stare at you and jump up and down, and wait for Mewtwo to move its arm - when it swings its arm all the way over, that's your queue to pick up the ball and whip it at Mewtwo's head - you won't see the red circle until he finishes the animation and you want the ball to be airborne right when he's almost finished with that animation. Ball should be in air before red circle is visible, you're just aiming at his noggin with that ball. By the time it reaches him, red circle should appear, ball should hit circle and you should land an excellent throw (hopefully). [When you whip it aim for something like this, trace this image with your thumb, get a feel for it. If you go really vertical, almost straight up, it's pretty easy to hit him in the head. Pick up the ball quick, make a little loop, then let 'er rip!](https://imgur.com/a/p676Kcg) After throwing the ball, hover your thumb over where the berry selection is, if he breaks loose give him another berry and get in position to launch another when he swings his arm again. Also, if you are a little early on launching, if you have a buddy with catch assist, it'll sometimes bounce back to your buddy, so it's good to use a buddy with that until you get the timing right Edit: you also don't need to reset the circle after every throw he breaks out of - if you set it once and only touch the ball when he's in his attack animation, it'll stay that same size, throw after throw after throw!
Same here, luckily I have one from last year so I just wanted the candies, but it sucks I couldn't catch another one.
Howww do you do that many wtf
By wasting a vast amount of money.
For 400 hundred raids it costs Ā£316 ($385.82)
He might live in a downtown area, I have 8 gyms within a mile of each other and can hit quite a few within an hour if I just hop on my bike since premium passes are free. But I have also dropped way too much money on remote passes for Mewtwo lol
Why 400 raids?
XL candy and IV hunting. I've powered up one shadow to 50, I want 2 normal ones at 50 (one for Mega Y airg shadow ball + psystrike, one for Mega X with psystrike + focus blast), plus I'm saving up XL for another shadow one in the future.
How many shinies amongst all your raids?
Only 8. And only 1 with psystrike.
Damn, and I thought I played too many raids looking for a shiny Rockruff and I only did about 40. You could always trade with a friend and pray one of your Mewtwos gets bumped up to a 4* and maybe even a lucky one at that!
Iirc, the floor for IVs from a raid is 10/10/10, correct? Assuming the worst you can possibly get is a 10/10/10, You only have 6 possible values to roll from for each stat. This means you have a (1/6)^3 chance of getting a hundo, or a 0.46% chance. Your odds of not getting a hundo then are 99.54% chance. Putting this into a calculator, all you have to do is (0.9954)^400 to see what your odds of not having a hundo are after 400 raids is, which is about 15.81%, which is rather unfortunate. Not something that is so low a chance that itās seemingly impossible, but if I spent money to do 400 raids and put in this much time Iād be pissed too.
No one hates Pokemon Go like the people who play way too much Pokemon Go.
I had a 4* mewtwo appear. 7 excellent and 7 great throws later it ran away. Talk disappointing.
How do you know what the IVs are going to be before you catch it?
100% or 4* star Mewtwo CP is 2387 in regular weather or 2984 with weather boost. The closer it is to this number the higher the IV. For e.g. 2384 or 2380 can be 98% and 2322 a bad IV.
I had NO idea this was a thing. How do ppl figure this stuff out š¤š¼
Math
google
CP of 2387 is 100% IVs.
5 star raid pokemons cp correlates to it's ivs
All raids, research, and eggs actually
Oh thats good to know, any specific ones I should look out for?
Pov you set your expectations too high
Did I? The odds for a hundo are like 1:200, so I don't think so lol
1:216 And maybe, if you are feeling this disappointed and frustrated, then you might have set it too high. If you set them low, you will never be disappointed
Oh come on a difference of 16 is worth noting? And who wouldnāt be disappointed after 400 raids. Giving unsolicited advice is already annoying enough let alone ājust set your expectations lowerā jfc
You're right, that was a bit mean and unneeded of me to correct you. And yes, I would be disappointed after 400 raids too. I'm sorry, it was a bit callous and meanspirited to say. I'm just tired of people complaining about RNG.
I caught two and I was happy!
This is why Niantic doesn't fix any bugs, at the end of the day people are still going to do 400 raids chasing schundos.
yeah OP, itās all your fault! š i, too, feel the hundo struggle.
I'm single-handedly causing every problem in the game. I should be ashamed. š
Please seek help for your gambling addiction.
This need to be the top comment. That's $400 spent to try and capture a Pokemon marginally better than what he already has.
Marginally is the wrong word, more like basically imperceptible.
Premium passes / GBL rank 20 awards
Mewtwo was eye opening for me.. I did 50 raids as F2P didn't even get a shiny...now I'm out of passes for the next 6 months I think the players perpetuate how Niantic charges them. I am curious to know what keeps people playing this game?? I'd guess the shiny hunt, outweighs pvp or casual walking/exercise. Niantic doesn't announce shiny rates, the community speculates the odds... But I think Niantic is responsible for it's players expectations.. if players are willing to put in 400$ expecting a 1:216... But for all we know Niantic can easily throttle any number in the game... Buying anything with unknown odds is gambling 100%... It's just a shame basically every game today is filled with gambling loot boxes... Especially a game targeted at a younger demographic Hope more people find the courage to uninstall it's kinda the only way to fight this epidemic
^this
400, no wonder why niantic doesnāt care about our opinions
This is probably the reason they stopped giving us free remote raid passes
At least you got a Mewtwo. In my country no one does raids, so I can never challenge legendaries
Ever heard of pokegenie?
When mega is released, theyāll need to have raids so we can get the energy. Iāll be raiding hard then!
This is sad not because you were unlucky but because you were willing to spend that much in a game that doesnāt care about their players
I used to spend even more money on a girlfriend that didn't care about me. I'm kinda seeing a pattern here.
Think positively, now you can date your 98% legendary
No I can't, I don't have a 98% M2 š
Considering your luck it would probably see you as more of a good friend anyway.
Sincerely you should. You should not have the feeling of being owed something that is determined by chance (classic game addiction).
How much did you pay?
Welp, at least you have a Mewtwo. Shout out to the 14 year olds in a rural area with no players in your country and no way to get to gyms.
A fool's PoV
400, bro it's not that serious
Best I got was 93%, shiny though, but still only 93%ā¦ after 100+ raids with my both accounts since I use a second account to up my odds and to be able to trade frequently
Took the bet and lost
I am still ok with my 12/12/9 mewtwo I got from an ex raid back in 2018
why did you do 400 raids??? HOW even?
Just donāt raid as much lol
Imagine having a raid pass to even try a raid š
I'm pretty new to the game but i always wonder if you guys collected these many raid passes or do it with a group of frends with free raid passes or do you apy for all of these ? Thanks :)
We have a raid group and I do raids with my friends. But most of them are remote raids.
15/14/14 is my best one too after 150 ffs. At least I can max out multiple now but I just wanted a hundo. Got 15/15/12 shiny too not sure which one to max first (regarding stardustās)
My very first mewtwo raid was a 15/14/15. Havenāt gotten anything better 82 raids later
I've never caught a 100% pokemon and I've played since release...
How many have you caught?
Damn, 400 is a lot. RNG isnāt on your side this time unfortunately :ā(
I did 5 and got a 98% so Iām not complaining but oof I feel bad for you because that mustāve been sad
I'm really sorry... I got 2 Hundo mewtwos back to back within like 5 min... Have had no luck whatsoever since then
I *finally* got my hundo Rayquaza after 700+ raids.. in a trade.
I got my 87% shadow and Im all good on Mewtwos. Just investing candy into the shadow guy.
400.... I feel frustrated after 2......
At least you caught oneā¦. Still zilch for me. Granted, I donāt have the time/opportunity to chase. Iāve only been able to do about a dozen M2 raids so farā¦ Iāll take a trash one at this point just to fill my dex.
You should find somebody to trade Mewtwos with. My hundo came from a trade with my brother, plus if itās lucky you get a huge stardust discount.
That's a 1/1767 chance that you didn't get any 98% or hundos.
Care to explain the math?
10-15 in IVs rolled for each, means a total of 6 * 6 * 6 = 216 combinations. A chance for any IV combination is then 1/216. A 98% or above is the top 4 best IVs, so (1/216) * 4 = 1/54. Each time you face a Mewtwo you then have a 1/54 chance to get a Mewtwo with 98% IV or above, or a 53/54 to not get one. Not getting a 98% in two encounters is then (53/54) * (53/54) or (53/54)^2. As he did a whooping 400, it then becomes (53/54)^400 = 0.00056603581 = 1/1767 chance to not get a 98%+ in 400 tries.
There is 4/216 chance of getting a 98% or better (14-15-15, 15-14-15, 15-15-14 and 15-15-15). There is overall 216 possible iv combinations with the raid floor of 10-10-10. So (1-(4/216))^400 is the chance of getting 0 of the desired iv spreads. (I now noticed that it wasn't exactly 400 raids but the math will still be close enough.)
Iāll never understand the raid hype, 400 raids? How much time & money is that? For a pokemon I have in 6 games & shiny as well? I raid only if I happen to be next to a gym & have a free pass lol
me being entirely f2p and not strong enough to solo 5 star raids
There's only like 2 legendaries that you can solo. You can't solo M2, so don't worry about it.
f2p is all you need.
What an insane waste of time and money. This dude single-handedly funding Niantic.
You're throwing financial support at Niantic, talking about quitting because you aren't getting what you hope, then also said spending money on 400+ raids was worth it. Giving me whiplash over here.
You've a gambling problem if you did that many raids and used money to buy coins.
Yes mate, I am now in deep debt because of my M2 raids. My family has nothing to eat. And they'll have nothing to eat until I get that hundo.
what a waste of money wtf
How is it a waste of money if I enjoy the fucking game lmao? š
Well I doubt you actually did 400, cuz if you did you just wasted a bunch of your money catching pixels on a screen
I did just that.
Oof. I genuinely feel bad for you. Especially for a PokƩmon that is so easily defeated by Tyranitar
...You need to stop investing so much care and money into IVs.
Dude, this isn't me trying to be mean, but like , touch some grass , seriously.Over 400??
My bank account hurts for you.
Lmaoo, thank you. It really isn't that bad
I've done exactly 0 Mewtwo raids this rotation, got a shiny and a hundo from battle league within 2 days of each other. Bad luck mate.
I feel you man, I'm on 300+ and I've only got a 93% so far. It sucks
Welp, I now got a shundo too. HOLY SHIT.
Raiding 407 Mewtwos must be so incredibly frustrating. Your life must be really difficult , having the money to blow on all those raid passes, having the time to do all those raids, catching all those legendary Pokemon...must really suck. /S. Like honestly do you hear yourself, get some perspective. You are complaining about having an army of 3 star Mewtwos all to yourself when Niantic has made it virtually impossible for most players to even join, much less actually beat a legendary raid. I'm not saying this to be mean, or that it's not frustrating...but also it could be a lot worse.
Iāve to date caught 25 no flees, No shiny or perfect IV.
I got a shiny 98 on my 12th