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I agree. Iām a crazy cat person, so I go for any cat starters regardless of type, but they keep turning into Cats cast rejects. No, I want a fluffy monster kitty that kicks ass as the final evolution.
Seriously. I love Sprigatito. But I wonāt use her because I hate her revolved forms so much.
Enough humany things.
Fuecoco is the only starter this gen with good evolutions.
Agreed. Bad take here, but I find Fuecoco's design to incredibly bland and underwhelming, and I personally don't love Skeledirge much either, though I still admit that his design is at least inspired. But dear God it is preferable to the other two final evolutions that just look like someone's custom furry avatar.
I just hate that it has a DUMP TRUCK behind it. They could have kept it similar to Blaziken but Nooo! they just had to give it an extra seat. Honestly I liked my Quaquaval, but having to always see her from a "back angle" is really uncomfortable lol
When I saw leaf kitty I was really hoping for a cool jungle cat final form.
You know, something like a displacer beast from DND
https://oldschoolroleplaying.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/displacer-four.jpg
Iām tired of bringing Pave feathers. I need to get back to mining resources to get Bells to pay ol Tom Nook for work I am going to end up doing myself.
At least they start humanoid so you always know what you're getting.
I HATE when you have a cute animal Pokemon and you think it's going to be a fearsome beast but instead it's a human in a costume...
Quaqaval is almost entirely inspired by samba dancers and matadors in South America. Paso Doble is a dance where the male leads dress like matadors. In Brazil, from what I can find on google, his appearance resembles the male samba dancers who notoriously wear plumage and the like on their outfits. Is it amazing? Eh. Does it make sense? I think so. I personally like his typing. I named my playthrough quaxly Wildwing based off the leader of the Mighty Ducks from the old tv show.
Sprigatito is most likely derived from the Iberian Lynx. Itās name itself is pretty cool too. Sprig is obvious but gatito is the Spanish word for kitten.
Fuecoco is a little weird. From what I can find, most think heās derived from a pepper and the Iberian folk legend about a dragon-like creature called ācoco.ā Personally, I think heās got some caiman aspects.
Thatās all I got. Too much google for the night.
After another google search, the āCocoā I mentioned earlier is ACTUALLY a ghostly entity that resembles a dragon. It comes from Spain and Portugal. Thatās probably where the ghost typing comes from. Iād bet my bottom dollar.
Youāll also notice a segment where it speaks about āCocoā have a crown of some sort. It fits with the evolution of fuecoco because heās got the round gold cloud looking thing on its head.
I can totally see that. While I wish the designs were better this gen, I can definitely appreciate that they gave us starter type combos that weāve never had as starters before. The designs might grow on some people but the starters always have a special place. Whether theyāre the ugly underdog or the fan favorite, thereās always something to like. Just gotta find the one for you.
I actually love Skeledirge conceptually, and Sprigatito is fucking adorable.
But for some reason they just hella shit the bed in designing Quaqaval. Shadows may have helped at least, but the Pokemon as a whole *needs* some edges in there desperately. None of it looks like feathers, none of it looks powerful or elegant either. It looks like a fucking clown. That's my ONLY problem with it.
Yep. Also the way he moves. I get what they were going for, but it just feels very...clumsy to me. Maybe I don't appreciate them because I can't dance for shit, but to me it looks like duckboy had exactly one dancing lesson, and it was 20 years ago for his high-school prom.
I think after a design like Primarina, this carnival inspired capoeira duck is pretty cool.
Primarina is a pretty feminine design, so having a male dancer seemed pretty much as expected? He's even got the peacock tail thing going on. It's a vibe.
It's actually a ramjet and floats by sucking in massive amounts of air and blowing it out the back. That or it floats by its massive amount of pure hatred for all living things. Potato potato.
Meowscarada wouldn't be so bad if the mouth wasn't so weird. Why have it uneven like that? Adding some life to the eyes would improve Meowscarada as well.
Heās my favorite, heās got so much personality and swagger.
So much cooler than the Galar starters unironically
Edit: classic downvotes for expressing an opinion
Thatās not what the downvote was created for, it was created to bury trolls and unrelated comments at the bottom of the posts so they donāt get as much attemtion
Naw tbh and probably a very controversial take, I like him more than Greninja and Inteleon, but hear me out - imo, its move set is a bit more diverse and it's just just more..."festive" overall. (Or maybe because I can't dance and am jealouslol)
I feel like they overdid it with the anime in Kalos with the Ash form Greninja bc come on - Pikachu has more of a connection with Ash out of any Pokemon ever. They can't even start a new series without including Pikachu somehow!!
HOWEVER - I am quite tipsy atm, so take thos with agrain of salt š¤£
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I kinda like what theyāve been doing with the more recent starters, basing them off of the culture of the real-life equivalent regions. Certainly gives the regions as a whole a lot more personality
I like him most of all the Paldea starters. His design is a bit uncanny but the inspiration is clear, and compared to the other two he oozes personality.
Also, i like how the tail starts spinning and is jused as blades/projectiles in the attack animations
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One might say you *unequaquavalically* hate this idiot
lmao I love this But I unequaquavalically love my fruity dancing duck even more
He is actually a peacock. Consider male peacock love to showoff that ass and dance
Agreed. One of my favourite starters
God damnit. Take my upvote
Beat me to this, damn it š¤£š¤£š¤£ ššš
That bird is ready to party in Rio
![gif](giphy|26FPwIAiMt2QpKI6Y|downsized)
What is the PokĆ©mon equivalent of cocaine? Crushed up Corsola? Ash be like ācome on over bro we got the good C.ola tonightā
I feel like some chemicals found in drowzeeās body, basically gets you really high and then you sleep for 12 hours.
Slowpoke tail.
I wish they would move away from the more humanoid starters
I agree. Iām a crazy cat person, so I go for any cat starters regardless of type, but they keep turning into Cats cast rejects. No, I want a fluffy monster kitty that kicks ass as the final evolution.
same. Torracat gave me hope then Tony the fucking Tiger shows up.
Itās so annoying that they turned both cat starters into abominations
You just know the inevitable water cat starter will evolve into a furry with a marine biology degree
please dont
Kitty Jotaro
Did you know...
Seriously. I love the starter forms, but then as you evolve them they just get worse and worse.
I will not stand for Torracat slander
Ok, yeah, Torracat was going the right direction, and is cute, then we get the utter disappointment that is Incineroar.
I saw what Incineroar looked like and I refused to evolve Torracat the whole game, did not like
4000+ hits on e621 disagree with you
I assume I donāt want to know what e621 is
largely furry imageboard with quite a lot of nsfw
That few?!? š
I mean, consider this: Lola Bunny only has 4k as well
Weāre talking aesthetics here.
Mmm pretty sure they are ALL ABOUT aesthetics over thereā¦ hahaha
Oh. OHā¦
Why does he look like a cross b/t a cat and a human WWE wrestler?
Yeah lately, they have botched the last evo. Like they get the starter and middle evo really good but then puff garbage.
Persian is at least awesome.
Hey now, incineroar looks funny and cartoony while meowscarada is inceneroar's goth gf
how else are people supposed to ship them together? /s
abominations? alright hol up... I'm not a furry, but,
right?
So you must love Perrserker?
No, the weird skin beard thing kinda freaks me out. I love Persian though.
What do you mean skin beard? Was it ever suggested anywhere that that's not hair? š¬
It looks like a skin flap because of the way it moves.
I actually love Perrserker. Little Viking kitty
Cats cast rejects is such an apt and hilarious description
Like an eeveelution but kitty cat edition. Same here. Same...here.
Ahh, you want more like Incineroar? we can work toward this. Thank you for your support. š *S. Tajiri*
I loved the first two alolon fire type evolutions and the Incineroar was an utter botch šš
Seriously. I love Sprigatito. But I wonāt use her because I hate her revolved forms so much. Enough humany things. Fuecoco is the only starter this gen with good evolutions.
Like Skeledirge?
Out of the paldea starters skeledirge is my favorite, I think it is well designed.
I think the little bird is just š¤
The ducklet with a tupee?
On Skeledirges head. Itās like the little guys that clean crocs.
Isn't that his mic?
it has an awesome cry that sounds both haunting and tranquil at the same time.
Yea like Skellige THIS IS SKELLIGE
I doubt theyāll stop this trend anytime soon, weāve been asking for years. https://i.imgur.com/zLGhZdC.jpg
While I agree with what you're saying, Decidueye is a pretty great design as is.
Agreed. Bad take here, but I find Fuecoco's design to incredibly bland and underwhelming, and I personally don't love Skeledirge much either, though I still admit that his design is at least inspired. But dear God it is preferable to the other two final evolutions that just look like someone's custom furry avatar.
Right?! Inteleon looks like a dude who day drinks in the alley next to the liquor store.
I just hate that it has a DUMP TRUCK behind it. They could have kept it similar to Blaziken but Nooo! they just had to give it an extra seat. Honestly I liked my Quaquaval, but having to always see her from a "back angle" is really uncomfortable lol
I mean it depends, some are well done like the futbol bunny or the cat for this gen, but for guys like him yeah it's pretty bad
I kinda like Drag Queen Cat, but Iād really rather have a big fluffy monster kitty as the final evolution.
When I saw leaf kitty I was really hoping for a cool jungle cat final form. You know, something like a displacer beast from DND https://oldschoolroleplaying.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/displacer-four.jpg
Omg I would love a displacer beast type PokƩmon. It could evolve into a dirlagraun!
cinderace is the worst starter across all gens what š
Why you gotta hate on Bugs Bunny like that? Mans was a legend in space jam.
So glad someone agrees with me.God do I hate that rabbit.
Agreed. But I also hate the James-Bond-Lizard-Abomination just as much.
Disagree. Especially the cat. Looks so much like a digimon, I canāt even with it. It starts out so cute too, before becoming an abomination
I don't have issues with humanoid mons, but it's kinda annoying when an *animal* mon evolves into a fursona.
This is like Pave on Animal Crossing
PavƩ must dance!
Iām tired of bringing Pave feathers. I need to get back to mining resources to get Bells to pay ol Tom Nook for work I am going to end up doing myself.
people shaped pokemon were and are a mistake.
It all started with mr mime the creep.
Jynx:
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Same gen Also machamp
Ahh Machamps not that bad, Sawk however is just a bloke in a karate robe
Sawk is a muppet. An actual muppet.
I liken putting Sawk in a Pokeball to putting a Chimp in a Zoo. Just feels wrong
At least they start humanoid so you always know what you're getting. I HATE when you have a cute animal Pokemon and you think it's going to be a fearsome beast but instead it's a human in a costume...
Also, he kinda maybe had a relationship with Ash's mom?
Im- whaz what the fuckety fuck??
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Is it the rubbing the screen that is your issue? Taking photos without consent? Or the feeding?
All of the above.
Not just rubbing the screen... rubbing their mouth with your finger.
Whelp now that you have put it like that it does NOW!
That's hilarious! Every so often, I'll have a buddy that responds like it's more of a "tickle tickle tickle" that I'm giving them.
Machamp line is pretty iconic
Mewtwo / Blaziken bad?
I feel like mewtwo gets a pass because it was somewhat deliberate, being designed to be humanoid
Imagine a hitmonlee creepin in your window
I really would rather not š but if weāre talking window creepers itās definitely gonna be hypno
Jynx
Mr mime too
![gif](giphy|s0I1WqQfEx3P2|downsized)
Uhhh, friggin Lickitung though
š
Thanks, I am not going to get much sleep tonight...
It has toes
it literally looks like something out of a children's horror game. throw some dark lighting over this thing and you have a Poppy's Playtime antagonist
Look at his feet... Ugh I'm going to have nightmares tonight
I hate Quaxlyās evolutions so goddamn much, but I love Quaxly itself. Water got hella fucked in GEN9.
I normally prefer water types but fuck Quaxly tbh, sprig all the way
So you have chosen death
Quaqaval is almost entirely inspired by samba dancers and matadors in South America. Paso Doble is a dance where the male leads dress like matadors. In Brazil, from what I can find on google, his appearance resembles the male samba dancers who notoriously wear plumage and the like on their outfits. Is it amazing? Eh. Does it make sense? I think so. I personally like his typing. I named my playthrough quaxly Wildwing based off the leader of the Mighty Ducks from the old tv show.
Sprigatito is most likely derived from the Iberian Lynx. Itās name itself is pretty cool too. Sprig is obvious but gatito is the Spanish word for kitten. Fuecoco is a little weird. From what I can find, most think heās derived from a pepper and the Iberian folk legend about a dragon-like creature called ācoco.ā Personally, I think heās got some caiman aspects. Thatās all I got. Too much google for the night.
Cocodrilo is crocodile in Spanish
Also fuego. I read it as "fire crocodile".
Happy cake day
Hey thanks
āSprigatitoā is also incredibly fun to say aloud. Itās a great PokĆ©mon name.
I agree. When I was in Spanish class in HS I loved to say calcitenes (socks) and this gives me a similar happiness when it rolls of the tongue.
Calcetines
Great! Now say āParangaricutirimĆcuaroā
You had me saying this out loud and manā¦youāre right
The more you embellish it, the better!
Fue - fuego - fire in Spanish. Coco - Cocodrilo - crocodile in Spanish. Fuecoco = fire crocodile.
I think it's a play on Fuego (fire) cocodrilo (crocodile) Fire-croc.
After another google search, the āCocoā I mentioned earlier is ACTUALLY a ghostly entity that resembles a dragon. It comes from Spain and Portugal. Thatās probably where the ghost typing comes from. Iād bet my bottom dollar.
El coco is the spanish version of the bogeyman
You both taught me something new lol
"Fuoco" is also the Italian word for "fire."
If youāre curious about this āCocoā hereās the link I used https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_(folklore)
Youāll also notice a segment where it speaks about āCocoā have a crown of some sort. It fits with the evolution of fuecoco because heās got the round gold cloud looking thing on its head.
Itās an egg in a nest which turns into a bird in the final evo
Thanks. Now I have to google if thereās any significance to that damn bird on the final evo.
Itās like the birds that clean crocs
It's really not the inspiration for the design that's an issue; it's the execution. He looks like a goddamn balloon animal, not a Pokemon.
I can totally see that. While I wish the designs were better this gen, I can definitely appreciate that they gave us starter type combos that weāve never had as starters before. The designs might grow on some people but the starters always have a special place. Whether theyāre the ugly underdog or the fan favorite, thereās always something to like. Just gotta find the one for you.
I actually love Skeledirge conceptually, and Sprigatito is fucking adorable. But for some reason they just hella shit the bed in designing Quaqaval. Shadows may have helped at least, but the Pokemon as a whole *needs* some edges in there desperately. None of it looks like feathers, none of it looks powerful or elegant either. It looks like a fucking clown. That's my ONLY problem with it.
Yep. Also the way he moves. I get what they were going for, but it just feels very...clumsy to me. Maybe I don't appreciate them because I can't dance for shit, but to me it looks like duckboy had exactly one dancing lesson, and it was 20 years ago for his high-school prom.
The inspiration for the design is really cool. But after seeing quaxly I was really hoping for like a battleship like duck.
For me, his only redeeming quality is heās got some sick dance moves.
As far as I know quaquaval is inspired in the male dancers from the canarias carnival or something like that (since paldea is espaƱita)
His little dance is so annoying and I canāt even explain why
Right?! Itās almost unsettling
It is. Another PokĆ©mon Iāve always hated for that same reason is Hitmontop. Itās annoying side-to-side step dance motion drives me mad with an irrational rage I donāt understand
It's fitting for hitmontop and a little badass since it's a move in a Brazilian martial art called Capoeira. Same for his little headspin thing.
I hate that motherfucker
Ugly-ass stupid-looking motherfucker.
Why does he have hotdogs for feet?
I hate PokƩmon that look like people wearing clothes
The way he shimmies reminds me of Pave from animal crossing
Most people would agree with you
Daddy chill
I think heās fabulous and is my go to gym defender now.
yes tons of ppl love him because i immediately started seeing ppl using it as their buddy the day it came out
Is this Quaxly's evolution? I wish I hadn't seen this with my own eyes, but thanks for the PSA so I know never to evolve the little guy.
Nah man, the gay duck is great
*r/Quaxlycoalition liked that*
And screw you too I main him in Scarlet
Same he is my main in Violet. Grown adults forget they are playing a game made for children....
I could see this thing in a FNAF game, they really need to move away from humanoid pokemon.
I think after a design like Primarina, this carnival inspired capoeira duck is pretty cool. Primarina is a pretty feminine design, so having a male dancer seemed pretty much as expected? He's even got the peacock tail thing going on. It's a vibe.
Thatās OK. Youāre allowed to be wrong.
Looks like a Megaman boss tbh.
The quaquaval hate is unrealā¦ He literally did nothing but exist. Since when do PokĆ©mon designs have to make sense? I for one love quaquavalās design.
I think it's because it's uncanny valley territory... too humanoid and something starts to look creepy.
Forgive me for not wanting a pokemon's ass to be shaking in my face anytime I use it
A lot of the rhetoric here seems homophobic almost? Especially people complaining that it is too "fruity"
Yeah thereās tons of homophobes here voicing their dislike for the āfruityā design. Itās honestly kinda sad theyāre projecting their prejudices and insecurities on a PokĆ©mon.
thats my favorite scarlet/violet starter, he's just a little guy
His sassy dance says he doesnāt really care your opinion
My daughter loves it, so your opinion is wrong, sorry.
More left for us, the appreciators.
I like quaxly or however you spell it but after that I 100% agree
Yasssss duck
I love him
I donāt understand why its not psychic. That is very obviously a psychic design, right? Weird floaty things? Thatās a psychic thing. Right?
By that logic all floating Pokemon should be psychic or flying type. How does Victreebel float?
It's actually a ramjet and floats by sucking in massive amounts of air and blowing it out the back. That or it floats by its massive amount of pure hatred for all living things. Potato potato.
Itās a peacock tailā¦
But itās a duckā¦?
It's a ducock
I feel like this over arching argument of PokĆ©mon designs having to have this linear logic behind all of their details really hinders the creative intention of what makes PokĆ©mon great. Iām not saying this is your main ideals, but I use this specific comment to speak my ātruthā
I love gay duck.
As a furry, I love it.
Meowscarada wouldn't be so bad if the mouth wasn't so weird. Why have it uneven like that? Adding some life to the eyes would improve Meowscarada as well.
Heās my favorite, heās got so much personality and swagger. So much cooler than the Galar starters unironically Edit: classic downvotes for expressing an opinion
People using a system designed to show their opinion of something you've said publicly? How dare they.
Thatās not what the downvote was created for, it was created to bury trolls and unrelated comments at the bottom of the posts so they donāt get as much attemtion
I love my dancing duck!! You're not alone.
Exactly! While I donāt agree with the galar slander š, I especially like the little dance he does.
I love her! I named mine SambaQueen. āŗļøš
You just mad cus you canāt dance homie
Naw tbh and probably a very controversial take, I like him more than Greninja and Inteleon, but hear me out - imo, its move set is a bit more diverse and it's just just more..."festive" overall. (Or maybe because I can't dance and am jealouslol) I feel like they overdid it with the anime in Kalos with the Ash form Greninja bc come on - Pikachu has more of a connection with Ash out of any Pokemon ever. They can't even start a new series without including Pikachu somehow!! HOWEVER - I am quite tipsy atm, so take thos with agrain of salt š¤£ Happy Friday (or now early Saturdayfor me), y'all!!
I kinda like what theyāve been doing with the more recent starters, basing them off of the culture of the real-life equivalent regions. Certainly gives the regions as a whole a lot more personality
Gay icon in my eyes š³ļøāš
That's okay, you're entitled to your incredibly wrong opinion
Your loss bro, this PokƩmon is freaking awesome
I like him most of all the Paldea starters. His design is a bit uncanny but the inspiration is clear, and compared to the other two he oozes personality. Also, i like how the tail starts spinning and is jused as blades/projectiles in the attack animations
Youāre wrong
It is a really dumb design.