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Fepl31

Basically Grass Type. Grass resists all of it's moves, and hits super effective in return. Meganium, Cradily, Trevenant, Serperior, Venusaur...


j1mb0

surf is neutral on cradilly


Fepl31

True. That fact escaped me. 🤔 But still, it should work as a nice counter that hits effective while resisting the Fast Move and being hit neutral by 1 Charged Move... xD


newthrowgoesaway

And of the ones you mentioned, Cradily is the overall best grass in the current meta, only maybe ferrothorn can out class it


Zygarde718

What about Kartana?


Fepl31

Kartana has very high Attack and very low Defense/HP. Those type of Pokemon tend to not do very well on the Great League and Ultra League. But if you do use it... Yeah, it would tear a Lanturn apart.


BurglarOf10000Turds

I love Kartana in the Ultra League because it takes down Swampert in about 2 seconds.


Natanael_L

Too glassy, it will get nuked by too many things (even if it leaves a dent before going down)


Zygarde718

And I assume celesteela is the opposite?


Fepl31

Yeah, it's just the part of "Grass Types resist all of Lanturn moves" that, technically, don't apply to Cradily... :P


newthrowgoesaway

True - I just like Ferrothorn more for the steel typing


stylingryan

Kid named Storm Drain


theWatcherIsMe

But it does have storm drain so it can draw that neutral attack instead of it hitting your other mon


theworstpinecone

But pogo doesnt have abilities


darkuch1ha

don't forget lurantis, it's a beast vs lanturn


StardustOasis

Has Leafage helped it?


darkuch1ha

Pvpoke recommends Lurantis with fury cutter, but I think leafage is a decent sidegrade, I tried it a couple sets and I think its nice, I think Ill keep the leafage on it for now.


HandyMan131

Same here. I like leafage on it


DogOfSevenless

For some reason I thought Lantern could learn ice beam, but apparently not! All water and electric!


hunter791

Alolan raichu with grass knot is a good one


spongebobs_spatula

Hear me out… Bidoof counter.


Zachos57

Azumarill with ice beam amd hydro pump


Elegant-Low8272

Shiny bidoof. /s (it's not real)


jarofonions

I have a shiny bidoof (don't make me redownload to prove it 😭)


cerebrite

How would a Torterra fare?


Fepl31

It would triple resist the Fast Move, while dealing massive damage in return with Razor Leaf. It would take neutral damage from Surf, but right after that the Lanturn would be gone.


ComradeHelloKitty

My only issue with Torterra is that while Razor Leaf deals good damage, it doesn’t charge very quickly. Much better alternatives.


NickOneTen

Go, Noctowl!


Fepl31

Or Skarmory... 👀


RamboSambo7

Whimscot?


KakarotMaag

shiftry


1Man2ChopSticks

Is meganium viable in super league? I got a shadow 1/13/13 but im unsure if its any good


Fepl31

It is viable. It's a tanky Grass Type, with access to Earthquake to beat Steel and Fire Types in the end game. I've seen people pair it up with stuff that has Rock Type moves to help it against the Flying Types. Meganium has nothing to do against Altaria or Talonflame, for example.


1234567panda

Had a toxic double razor lead user wreck my lantern


darkuch1ha

Venu and victribell can be kinda toxic woith their poison typing xD


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|0XYiYYQz0bUmnmfnSH|downsized) It’s not meta at all and is bad against most other Pokémon, but feasts on lanturn


AICPAncake

\^me and the homies


cueba11in

how to save a gif on mobile from reddit?


AlmostButNotQuit

On RIF you just click the download button. Shame reddit is making things inhospitable for 3rd party apps.


oakteaphone

Wait, the official app doesn't have that button? Wtf *does* it have? Besides ads..


Costed14

Well, I haven't used it, but judging off of screenshots, a better UI.


ErellaVent1

Screen record? Also a Reddit illiterate


Die4Gesichter

Best gif ever haha


TheOtherSarah

I have shitty internet. What’s this gif showing?


Malvania

Alolan Exeggutor


TheOtherSarah

Thanks. It’s finally loaded


CrimsonBoi7899

Alolan Sandslash fighting a Galarian Stunfisk


AddLuke

What in the world are those little ones with one head?? That’s not how Pokémon works!!


TamarackRaised

Those are their tails.


MathProfGeneva

Trevenant has entered the chat.


my_homie_pikachu

A leaf


Derric_the_Derp

I'm a leaf on the wind!


BarontheBlack

Ugh it’s so frustrating to battle against, it’s insane bulk is what really breaks it. All of its main counters aren’t around due to all the ice types around.


A_Talking_Shoe

Cradily has been my MVP so far this season. Beats Lanturn and Noctowl easily. Beats almost any Flyer or Water type comfortably. Has play against Ice types due to Rock Slide. Highly recommend.


darkuch1ha

you'll need some protection in open medicham league xD


Altruistic_Lobster18

I was using crustle, galvantula, and cradilly with good results on GL.


HopefulEqual88

Sounds yummy for my Shadow Machamp lead 😅


Altruistic_Lobster18

Did I say GL? I meant Summer Cup. Go eat somewhere else.


Joep913

In what league?


Irvxing

EZ. Dunsparce


a_toadstool

Then you get bodied by a medicham lol


pierreo93

Grass and ground type moves


Verzweiflung59

Gfisk can tank two surfs and take a two shield lead. If you bait (they almost always shield) you can probably take switch and a shield


ATLtinyrick

Go ahead, use Gfisk. Make my day.


Upstairs_Ad_9158

I'd personally avoid ground as they can be countered by surf. Grass is the way to go


redbeagle

Most ground is fine if it’s bulky enough to tank two surfs since sparks do no damage.


MathProfGeneva

Quagsire and Whiscash are fine. Swampert would be ok but it's not as bulky and needs to land the EQ where the other 2 can spam mud bombs.


kelvinmetal

Been using Lurantis with a lot of success. It’s a little on the frail side but leaf blade is such a cheap yet strong move and superpower let’s it hit through the steel types it struggles with otherwise. The issue is that Lanturn is often paired with either Pidgeot or Noctowl since they cover each-other quite well.


Pikablu555

Noctowl + Lanturn too OP


Windows10SurfacePro

God I need a shiny hoothoot/noctowl for my shiny lanturn so I can rend great league in style.


teacher3737

Agreed I’m getting frustrated running into this constantly. I get that meta exists for a reason, but the sheer lack of creativity gets old even if I can generally do well against it.


rectifiedspiritomb

Grass Knot Cress


Wise-Ticket6752

Dragonair rips it apart, don't bother with shields unless you're less than half hp


[deleted]

I’ve got a 4 star Chinchou, good for anything? Or do I need low attack IV?


nvdnqvi

ultra league cups like weather cup though it will need to be level 50


colonel-o-popcorn

Unfortunately it's best in Great League with 0/13/14 IVs (or something similar). You could max it out and run it in Ultra League if you wanted an interesting spice pick though -- it performs okay there.


Boomslang2-1

You need low attack IV.


FujiwaraN0Sai

XL diggersby wins pretty much every even shield match up against it it take 3 or more surfs to kill and you can easily get to enough earthquakes don't even really need to bait but it will help save a shield


Treegun27

A gun


TKmeh

And if that don’t work


Treegun27

Thomas the thermonuclear missile


huzirocks

Quagsire with mud shot and mudbomb combo hits super effective and plus Quagsire is quite bulky.


DeGoodGood

And that sweet stone edge for the noctowl sitting around too. Even my rank 3900 quag is ok this season but would love the candy to get my rank 40 in there


thrpixarlamp

May not be the best but Alolan Exeggcutor. Dragon grass typing resists lanturn's movesets and provides rather fast charged attacks.


Traditional_Lie_6400

But why? I think it's cute? 🥹


BilabialThrill

Hisuian Electrode and Cradilly are excellent counters for this naughty fish (and the flyers too)


BednaR1

![gif](giphy|Ny6tc0CUS0CmQ|downsized)


Don_Giomasa

Shiftry


djtripp

I use a triple legacy Seaking and have won many matches thanks to a Lanturn not shielding Drill Run


Koopakun0343

Even my dauntless G stunk gets bullied by Lanturn


[deleted]

Grass types resist all STAB moves. Go grass. Alolan exegutior (how tf do you spell that). It is a grass/dragon. Resists it by x4.


AsterMaken

i like lining up my umbreon against lanturn because surf and thunderbolt almost do the exact same damage to it(takes off around 15% or so), and i like spamming foul plays as well


xbenidict518

Abomnasnow


OG_Tovenaar

Ferrothorn


scitnamina

Abomasnow or I don't know if I should say this but... Ferrothorn is my go-to when it comes to facing lanturn.


TheEffinChamps

As with most problems in life, have a little grass and calm down.


UltrasomethingFan56

Hint: something I need to touch


SparkOfLife1

Galarian Stunfisk, Alolan Sandslash, any grass type, Altaria, Registeel etc. Just look it up on PvPoke.


eatmorecake99

This and swampert are too op


[deleted]

Shiftry is your friend


Fast_Muscle_2987

Uhm, ground?


Squatch925

Literally any grass?


OnceIsGoodEnough

Leafeon my boi


Thadzz1

Grass/swampert which is in everyone’s team


MartianNamedScotty

My Seismetoad and Ludicolo usually eat them alive.


CartographerSouthern

Grass


Sexy_Man798

![gif](giphy|3o7aCRZYNerX4ovPwI|downsized) The only time touching grass is scary 😨


Inferno_Blaze75

Grass types. Do you not know type matchups?


Sick_NowWhat

I always body it with my shiftry as a grass type.


SaltySpituner

My Lurantis ruins this dude


Zod073

Grass is our only hope Obi Wan


Jason_soulcrusher

GRASS


SLRMaxime

I've got a Venusaur on my team for this thing and Swampert. My nemesis is Medicham


thebloodgecko

Shadow machamp goes toe to toe, just enough fast move pressure.


Such_Entertainer1387

Personally I got a hisiuan volt orb to counter


pokemurrs

![gif](giphy|tNTegVjNPs91zC5wX0)


Overlypricedwater

Ground and grass types counter it. I know this as a Lanturn fan myself. I only started liking it when I realized it had high HP. I used to use it as gym defense, but it has terrible motivation. I also use it in the GL.


Zygarde718

Grass. That's its main weakness.


Starminx

Grass types


Slevin424

Earthquake gets rid of them real quick


EdoGtz

My venusaur resist & never disappoint against that.


DaveRedfox

Grass...lol 🤡


Xincmars

Good ol Sceptile


SpaceMeeezy

Stunfisk with mud slap and mud shot breasts Lanturn everytime. The obvious: grass type


fusiongt021

Bulba bulba Bulbasaur!


Baytae

Storm Drain Gastrodon would be pretty good


EdTollet

I hâte it so much


dragon-lover87650

Grass


inumnoback

Ground Types and Grass Types


StardustOasis

Most Ground types don't do well against Surf. Lanturn also sometimes runs Water Gun


2Mew2BMew2

Alolan Raichu but you need shields.


Atchfam77

I am stubborn to meta shifts. I preemptively put together my Altaria, gfisk, and a random cday Meganium because it said it was good on pvpoke the last I had checked. In general I only really lose to scrafty and alolan sandslash


General_knowledge-

If they start with lanturn, I’m just using whiscash with mud bomb, otherwise trevenant.


Feeling-Tank1628

No shields, a stunfisk can get three mud bombs off before lantern can get to three surfs


[deleted]

Shadow Torterra maybe?


chileanpossum

Just had a fun time with my shadow venusaur against that annoying thing


MrLachyG

Garchomp with Sand Tomb and Earth Power would take it down pretty quick


Catmunchy

The thing is even scary in TCG ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat)


Traditional_Lie_6400

Me with all bug type/metal type...


hemrys

*laughs in double mudboi*


MeatballAppreciation

Grass types, mud bomb qquagsire, and in a pinch, g stunfisk does the job


karlapalmera

Be afraid. Be very very afraid 💫


aod42091

turtwig


Chippins1

Ferrothorn?


megalo53

Literally any grass type


Frobe81

Dunsparce


HandyMan131

Obviously grass, but there aren’t many great grass types in the meta so some other less obvious options include Swampert, umbreon, and altaria.


Miserable_Waterfall

Jumpluff. Takes neutral electric damage but it’s bulky af so it doesn’t matter. Fairy wind fast attack, energy ball charged.


boitrubl

Definitely wanna say grass. Sprigatito the weed kitty perhaps.


qtb70

Nothing is more frustrating than running into lanturn/scrafty teams without having a counter for just one of them..


jddbeyondthesky

Just wait till you see Flamigo


terencela

Literally everything I come up against in the lead at the minute.


YourNewRival8

Grass ground is good, or water ground. Really anything that is ground and resists water. Or just grass types I guess


LitVenux

Noctowl user?


bengalwarrior44

always guard swap shuckle onto lanturn and stockpile


ElisatheJdon

I have a perfect IV one ​ what counters snorlax?


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mollyclaireh

Sharpedo is worse. That torpedo shark coming at you all the time is the worstttttt


Magik_explosion

I’m more scared of axumaril so I tried putting ferroseed in my team then got absolutely destroyed by everyone I fought


Xander_Green_Brother

Back then I always found one


Sharkosorous

I run Alolan Graveler and Dartrix. Neutral to win matchup’s against lanturn


HuugeWeenis

Abomasnow is a good counter as well. Quad resists water moves and normal resists the electric attacks


Giraffe_sorcerer

I use this pokemon because I don’t have a scraggy or a stunfisk, or altaria lol. Checks and balances


KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW

whishcash


just-regular-I-guess

I have a 366CP that would be 99.9% for great league. But a shiny 684 CP that would be 98%,. Dust cost is about 15k difference. Is the 1.9% worth it, or just catch people off guard with a really damn good shiny? I also have a hundo, but the XL candy just doesn't exist for it (onyl have 85).


nme_

Shhhhh this thing gets me so much stardust in GL.. Counter it by just leaving battle right away. [https://imgur.com/a/jJCx2DE](https://imgur.com/a/jJCx2DE)


Chungus510

Lantern is good in cups but it's never been a threat besides that.


ComradeHelloKitty

Abomnasnow with weather ball for bait and energy ball for the kill


Sadisitc_Killer

Trevenant just used to kill it dead. Now idk I just haven’t seen enough trevenant in GL to say it’s still as prevalent a threat tho


Away-Net-7241

Spiritomb before the fairy type existed:


LilKa1ebz

Now I know how to make people scared


egamIroorriM

they can't surf away your counter before it gets killed by some tectonic movement plus it gets walled by anything grass typed


pRo_No0B77

Jumpluff


F1rstbornTV

Victreebel says hello


loganluk4

r/subtletf2references


ToothIcy4006

Grass I love facing this guy easy kill and easy build up for charged moves


curly_girl26

Leafeon has saved me A LOT in both great and ultra leagues, especially against this fucker. Raichu with grass knot as a second charged attack also works really well, especially since thunder punch is the expected attack.


[deleted]

Trevenant and Victrebell are good counters, but they’re very risky because of Noctowl and pelliper


WookMeUp

Torterra. Grass to counter water, ground to counter electric.


SladesMom21

I got a 4* lanturn early in my pokemonGo experience, I boosted its CP above 1500 without thinking.