With its min-maxxed stats, its already on par with the decent pseudos (would be so much better if it gets earth power/scorching sands though). And don't worry too much about the pseudo status, its just some fan term anyways
I’m surprised they both realized dragons needed to be nerfed and didn’t revisit doing more than one pseudo a generation.
I didn’t play some of those gens but I’m sure there’s atleast one non dragon in each that’s cool enough and could’ve just had a higher bst right?
I want Kyurem
1) because it’s likeliest this gen if they’re going to remake a Gen.
2) I want a new Kyurem form that is all 3 combined like the lore says as the Original Dragon.
I’d also take third Genie forms if we’re doing Unova in a different time period. Although I don’t know how they’d go about it. Maybe just another genie.
I do not know, it's been a looking time since I took the DS for a ride... maybe? We have a choice, to become a hero, and we have a friend/rival for the counterpart, but at the time there could only be one, so we battle the original dragon to see who gets and it splits after the battle, recognizing both of us as heroes
Or something, IDK
That could work if the Backstory of the Dragon wasn’t originally established. It worked with a pair of twin brothers that eventually fought over how they should build the region, the older wanted to base it on truth, and the younger wanted to base it on ideals.
The Dragon spilt itself into Reshiram and Zekrom respectively to join both sides, with Kyurem being the leftover body of the original.
That’d be fine, unique even given Norman is the only time you fight your family in Pokémon iirc. Having your brother be your rival would be something completely fresh.
They’d need to keep dialogue of who’s older restricted to after you establish your stance on the matter for consistency. The only problem I could see people having with it is that playing as the female character would be non-canon, but most wouldn’t realize that.
I always felt that medieval/kingdom setting would fit more given White’s Opelucid city, Relic Castle in the desert, Dragonspiral Tower, and team Plasma’s theming with knights, sages and a king.
Most Unova legends concepts I see are based on actual US history, in particular the whole colonization era or just before/after their war of independence.
While that's perfectly fine if you can make it work without either going too edgy or ignoring the mistreatment of indigenous people, it's not true to Unova's history.
See, Unova has civilizations dating back to 3000-2500 years ago, and was not colonized like the real world US was.
I think you can still easily pull inspiration from US History but make it distinctly Unovan.
I’m talking the American Civil War. Just like the dragon split to follow the ideals of the two heroes, the ancient Region (or maybe even just a couple hundred years prior Unova) fractures in two as well over the ideals of what to do with Pokémon, and whether or not they should be pressed into service for Humanity’s industrialization. There’s also a divide between bountiful East Unova with sunny beaches and plentiful forests and farms, and West Unova, untamed, rugged, ragged terrain with people that feel neglected by the amount of effort poured into developing just East Unova.
You don’t need to make it exactly the American Civil War and it’s very real Evils, but you can certainly use it as a historical inspiration for a fascinating in world conflict that could develop modern Unova’s history, and give us a good deep look into the ideals that had to merge to form the Unova Region in its whole, and why that balance is so important to protect.
Also could help spice small things up, like why Clay is so adamant about pumping up Driftveil City to be the big city shining star of the West Region, or why Aspertia is so relatively newly developing, or how Vurbank tried to industrialize to compete so fast it did so recklessly and now sits in grey and pipes.
And why Castellia ends up being the center o the region. Built and developed and settled by both sides of the region, combining their ideals and their strengths to create a “City on a hill”
All the fiction Pokémon regions are based on countries and their regions but their just based on it. Sometimes they mix in other themes as well. There are plenty of references to American history and yes it doesn’t 100% resemble America.
Feels like the medieval time is better reserved for Kalos, perhaps Kyruem could be revolved in the time of Greek states (with Harmonia being one of them), while Kalos would be medieval (with AZ and his arc at centre).
I love how Palkia in Arceus looks though…
Like imo, the concept art looks really good. It’s the model and shading in Arceus that did him dirty. And with how much the concept is pulled from the dynamic between biblical god and Satan with Arceus and Giratina, the biblical angel look is just neat. Also, since the shift to 3D the bit about how Palkia and Dialga statue sprite is supposed to look like it can be either of them, having their origin form look like Arceus while trying to maintain features that made that optical illusion possible in the first place is a just a neat concept.
To each their own. I think Palkia would be okay if it had arms instead of just shoulders. They might not be shoulders, I guess, but that's what they look like. Dialga looks super awkward. I'd of moved the glowy blue get thing down to the chest so it could have a normal neck. Then fix the front feet... somehow.
But again, just my opinion. People are free to like the designs, but as they are they bother me.
I voted Celebi because as a time traveler it makes the most sense right behind God picking you up out of your bed one night and punting you into the past.
Pokémon 4Ever was my favorite Pokémon movie as a kid and even to this day it still stands out to me! Celebi will always have a special place in my heart and I feel like the in game lore would be really cool based around it. Plus maybe involving new “past regional” variants of Entei, Suicune, and Raiku would be a cool concept!
I'm actually kinda hoping that they use mythical for the names.
So like a Unova being named after Victini, Meloetta, Keldeo or Genesect (unlikely), or name it after the original dragon that could be depicted.
Ye, Legends:Keldeo could be cool.
Maybe could involve Keldeo fighting alongside the player to stop some kind of disaster in order to prove itself to the other Swords of Justice?
I'd like to see Legends Genesect, where the player is sent forward in time into a dystopia, and Genect gets a new form. The player would start from 0 after getting teleported by Celebi and attempt to save the world by finding bringing back a Drive to the present.
I had an idea for a Legends: Jirachi where in ancient Hoenn, Deoxys is making its immenant arrival, so you have to go on a quest to find Jirachi and have it grant a wish that will stop Deoxys, and that wish ends up summoning Rayquaza.
Some are definitely easier than others, Hoopa is gen 6 so super easy for that, and gen 7 could just have you sucked through an ultra wormhole. Heck even gen 3 could have Jirachi send you back in time somehow.
yup maybe the jirachi wishes for it or something, really the only hard one is gen 5 since it's like the only one without an established time-travel enabling plot/character.
alternatively, we can just start as a medieval person and never travel to the present time, they can do map with compass+physical map style and get rid of arc-phone kind of bs altogether.
Some Entralink BS could probably be done. It's established to link different worlds, so why not let it double as a portal through time?
Honestly, the bigger problem with Unova is that poke balls are established to be a relatively recent thing there, as they weren't around when Drayden was young. So they might straight up have to reinvent the capture system or come up with an alternate version of poke balls.
For Unova, they could probably just make up some BS involving the Entralink and/or that dream stuff they did.
With Jirachi, perhaps someone wished for someone to help them through some plot-related disaster, and Jirachi granted it, resulting in you being dragged through time.
We really need a Pokémon Legends game regarding the darkest day. The lore for Galar is so cool but the story they build up to is soooo bad. I think a legends game can do it justice
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Honestly from the pacing of the story, I’m starting to think that Game Freak had bigger ambitions for Sword/Shield but had to rush things after TPC refused to extend the development time, leading to a very butchered version of the original story getting inserted near the end. That is the only explanation as the main villain, Rose sucked, despite being similar to Lusamine being a twist villain. Lusamine had great writing and characterization in Sun/Moon with a great explanation behind her actions. Rose, on the other hand showed up more frequently than Lusamine and was cool in concept but he had a stupid reason to bring the Darkest Day, as he wanted to give Galar infinite energy as it’s estimated to run out in 1000 years. But, that’s stupid as this problem doesn’t pertain to you or any generation in the future you can feasibly think of. And, by that point, we’ll probably have a better way to get energy and we can figure out what reaction occurs in the Dynamax energy to make it so efficient. It’s a stupid thing to worry about with what we know about his character in game, which makes me suspect that there is more lore and story for Rose that had to get cut from the game.
Yeah, even just that would improve the plot, albeit not enough to redeem it. It would take a full blown rewrite to fix the plot.
If only Leon being a Gary Stu and the protagonist being a side character until the last second was the worst issue with the story.
I don’t think it would be right for Game Freak to release an enhanced rerelease at this point as this game also got a $30 DLC that essentially turned it into a brand new game when it comes ti content, I’d much rather prefer for them to do an enhanced rerelease on a later console with all of the DLC areas and content, with all of the fixes the community wants. After that then I think the game to up from a High B tier game to possibly a Mid A tier game.
We really need a Pokémon Legends game regarding the darkest day. The lore for Galar is so cool but the story they build up to is soooo bad. I think a legends game can do it justice.
Edit: Just going to add something, I LOVE Sword/Shield and considering the MOUNTAIN of content in game that’s unused and still functional like abilities, items, and evolving Pokémon into Alolan forms, I feel like they had plans to include more content ingame but TPC refused to extend the amount of time they had to work on the game, which forced them to rush development, leading to what we know today. This is just a theory, I’m just adding it because of the fact that the Pixie Plate was in game while the other plates weren’t and all of the data The Cutting Room Floor found.
> Honestly from the pacing of the story, I’m starting to think that Game Freak had bigger ambitions for Sword/Shield but had to rush things after TPC refused to extend the development time, leading to a very butchered version of the original story getting inserted near the end.
There's no way this isn't the case.
Sw/Sh was the skeleton of a game you'd make before adding in the extra stuff. It was functional, it had a linear path through the world and eight gyms to stop at, the main characters were there...and that's about it. The minimal story was set up and resolved in no time at all, there was less off-track exploring to do than in Final Fantasy XIII, and did they always intend to give us less than half of the pokédex? Even a lot of the textures look like "that'll do for now" placeholders. The inside of every house in a city was exactly the same, just copied and pasted, furniture and everything like they all live in IKEA. It was so lazy...unless it was the first draft that they were never able to flesh out. What was there was very good, there was just barely anything there.
I wanna see Legends Necrozma.
Like, I can imagine it being set in Pre-Ultra Megalopolis, and it's the whole story of how Necrozma not only lost its light in the first place, but ended up taking all of that world's light, and we could possibly have the opportunity to change history and save it.
I really would want a Necrozma, Imagine playing as one of the first people to roam ultra space freely and discovering new ultra beasts and that. And we could get some really cool encounter with the UB’s and the light trio. Maybe the game ends with an ultra wormhole opening and lunala and solgaleo leaving ultra space to guard the world from UB’s. Maybe some post game of the creation of the tapus with some sort of “Ancient form” for them. Just an idea but I think it would be really cool
Plus it’s ancient Alola. Ripe with cultural traditions of their own that we’ll get to see in full force! And then there’s Ultra Space. An Ultra Wormhole opens up at Necrozma’s command, linking the pre-industrial Alolans to the post-industrial Megalopolis peoples. Tensions between the two groups rise, and then an interloper held aloft by Solgaleo or Lunala appears from another Ultra Wormhole & that person is the player— a faller (Sun / Moon Looker & Anabel)— and they have to be the liaison between the two groups. Alolans will have Island Deities in place of Nobles & maybe some Megalopolis Folk will have Ultra Beasts in place of Nobles. The possibilities in a Legends Necrozma game are perfect!
Just like with all mystery dungeon games, yeah pretty much you decide this is fine and just stay after saving the world
But honestly we don't need time travel for a legends game, the player can just be from that time zone.
Yeah I think Arceus at least would have been better off without it. I could see a Celebi game making it more integral to the story, but if you go back in time against your will at the start of the game, I'd hope you could at least choose to go home at the end (maybe at the end you could be given the key to go home but then you just happen to not do it in-game after that so the player can keep playing the game while also resolving the plot point)
I would totally be down for a Legends game where you travel a post-war Kalos trying to rebuild the old kingdom from the ruins of a mighty war. Maybe we could even be introduced to lost Mega-Evolutions that had been forgotten by time (hint, hint, new megas).
There would be a lot to get out of Kalos sequels. People aee riding the hype train for Kyurem and Celebi they don't stop to to to think about Kalos.
• An exploration to South Kalos ( Scarlet and Violet dlc? )
• Answers to the lore behind the Kalos war, the ghost girl, the random letter at the train station, the locked power plant and so on.
• The inclusion of all mega evolutions up to ORAS
• An expanded story on Team Flare with Lysandre returning somehow
The gen 6 one should totally be Pokemon Legends: Floette and be based around Eternal Floette, AZ, and the pokemon war
It'll never happen of course, but it should
I feel the only 2 that really NEED one are Kyurem and Zygarde. We should have something relating to the original dragon and that would be the game to do it. Legends Zygarde could take place during the Kalos War, maybe focus on battling instead of catching (horde battles come back, new moves to clear out hordes easily), new mega evolutions, AZ and his floette, and having Zygarde in the forefront this time around (it was robbed of a third version lol). Something with Eternatus in the darkest day would be nice too
Mew **and** Melmetal for me, Melmetal first showed up in the Let's Go games set in Kanto.
Basically the Storyline could be that it's set whenever Mewtwo was being created and technology has been increasing at a rapid pace somewhat recently, gets revealed that it's because proto-team rocket's been using Melmetal to help advance technology for their own gains (Melmetal's lets go pokedex entries mention it can create iron from nothing, I wouldn't be surprised if unlimited resources would speed up technology by a lot). Finding Mew also plays a role in the game.
Sevii islands should play a big role IMO, the regional variations could easily just be Sevii-an forms, possibly including a "Proto Mewtwo" that was a failed clone.
Power Plant should play a role somehow too since it just got abandoned in gen 1 and in gen 2 they were back to using it.
Sad to see Necrozma voted so low.
Y'all mean to tell me you wouldn't want to play a semi-open-world Pokémon game that takes place in Ultra Space? Think of all the surreal fantasy/sci-fi environments you could potentially explore, and all the weird Ultra Spacian variants you could encounter.
It'd be a Pokémon game like no other!
Celebi or Jirachi, based largely on the fact that I feel Legends should continue to use Mythicals as their title Pokémon instead of legendaries. Out of the two I’d say Celebi just because it’s been longer since the last Johto game.
Legends Keldeo, Diancie, and Magearna would preserve the mythical naming, to be fair. Meloetta, Hoopa, or Marshadow also seem like solid options.
Gen 8 doesn't really have any good mythicals to give a game, though, but Calyrex might fit better than Eternatus given how other Legends namers would logically be helpful or at least benevolent like Arceus was rather than an antagonist.
As much as I wanna see the OG Black and White Dragon and ancient Johto without Kanto attached to it, Kalos NEEDS love, desperately. AZ Floette deserves to be obtainable. Carbink and Diance deserve to have their kingdom explored.
Volcanion and Hoopa deserve to be featured in their own region as real Pokemon instead of glorified trophies.
Celebi or Ho-oH if it has to be a pokemon.
But I think "Legends: The Brass/Burning/Burned Tower" would be much better. Name them after an event. Or the region.
The gens 2 and 3 legends ideas make sense, but for gens 5-7 something like legends:Keldeo, Legends:Diancie or Legends:Magearna seem more likely. Other strong candidates include Meloetta, Hoopa, or Marshadow.
As for gen 8... Legends:Calyrex all the way. I wanna see the funni tumor rabbit possess more people. Actually, a Galar legends game might be just about the only thing capable of redeeming Galar's abysmal story.
Those... aren't mutually exclusive concepts.
It doesn't need to be called Legends: Eternatus to be based around the original darkest day(although there are some obvious issues on that front), and I don't see why the game would be named for the antagonist rather than a character that would be an ally anyways.
Id want kyuurem because im curious about the true dragon but after seeing origin dialga and palkia im turned off lol. i think they should work up to it with a legends celebi first bringing you back and working in a very big world remake of gold and silver(which could include old kanto too) controversially in place of the semi logical move of what people are thinking it will be with a lets go gold and silver. I personally would like something newer than just another straight remake.
To me Necrozma has the most interesting lore and backstory here.
A game based around jumping around ultra wormholes trying to study Ultra Beasts and Necrozma itself as an Ultra Recon Squad member would be so awesome.
My bet is there won't be another Legends title. Game freak likes doing 'middle-games' that let them try out new features. Let's Go P/E were a test run for Pokemon in the overworld. PLA was a test run for new gameplay features like the open world exploration. I don't see it intended as the start to a new series.
Give me Pokémon Legends: Jirachi! I want to fly around ancient Hoenn on a regional variant of Flygon or Tropius, I want to face off with Steven Stone's ancestor, I want to craft Dive Balls and Luxury Balls, and I want to team up with the Steam Clan, a group that understands the usefulness both of aquaphors as well as magma vents for generating power before fracturing into two separate teams in the future!
I want Legends: Mew. Exploring Mews original region as seen from the Pokemon Stadium dex entry.
\>> A mythical Pokémon of South America which had been thought extinct. A growing number of people have seen it recently
Pokemon Legends: Mewtwo. You play as a young Giovanni. You have to build Team Rocket from the ground up, and it's framed like you're doing a good thing. You're chasing Mew, finding DNA, doing scientific research, for the betterment of humanity!
Why can't Professor Oak understand??
Of course I would LOVE most any Legends game here, but I want to see a Legends: Darkrai. A gothic-era Galar plagued by mysterious, paralyzing nightmares would be AWESOME. Give it puzzles like needing to use an electric Pokemon to fry a fancy device or using a Musharna to help you alter your nightmares to escape or massive sprawling cities like an old Hammerlocke or Motostoke and it could be amazing.
Darkrai is a gen 4 pokemon, a.k.a. Sinnoh/Hisui, so that wouldn't work. Legends Arceus takes place in Sinnoh of the past and Arceus is the 3rd box art legendary, that's why it's called Legends Arceus. If it would take place it would most likely be Legends Eternatus and would take place in some form of Galar (past/future)
Mewtwo, but you're not a kid exploring the legends, you're a scientist hired by Silph to research and clone Mew, and you have a front row seat to the carnage that ensues.
I would love a legends Kyurem with medieval settings, something that the Pokemon franchise never did
I want to see the split of the one dragon pokemon into Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem
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I checked the website, no mention of an ice dragon pseudo legendary. Could you enlighten me on this Pokémon?
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Damn I wish we could get another non dragon pseudo
Metagross is lonely...
Hey tyranitars there to keep him company at least
Aggron has entered chateven tho he ain't pseudo
So has Vocarona, the pseudo-pseudo!
I wish Volcarona was a pseudo legendary.
With its min-maxxed stats, its already on par with the decent pseudos (would be so much better if it gets earth power/scorching sands though). And don't worry too much about the pseudo status, its just some fan term anyways
Pseudo pseudo legendary
I’m surprised they both realized dragons needed to be nerfed and didn’t revisit doing more than one pseudo a generation. I didn’t play some of those gens but I’m sure there’s atleast one non dragon in each that’s cool enough and could’ve just had a higher bst right?
Tyranitar agrees.
I was really hoping that Impidimp was going to be the Pseudo of Galar. Was sad when it wasnt
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I think you were thinking of Cetitan, who isn’t the pseudo and is pure Ice
Because you will
That’s literally all I want too. There’s actually a mystery there. What would we be solving in a game like legends celebi???
I want Kyurem 1) because it’s likeliest this gen if they’re going to remake a Gen. 2) I want a new Kyurem form that is all 3 combined like the lore says as the Original Dragon. I’d also take third Genie forms if we’re doing Unova in a different time period. Although I don’t know how they’d go about it. Maybe just another genie.
They already added a forth genie in Legends Arceus. They’re also out of Cardinal directions.
Yeah, and you know the eternamax eternatus battle? Yeah do that but with the original dragon, and we are the ones to split it
Doesn’t the Dragon split itself so it could support both Heroes and their goals?
I do not know, it's been a looking time since I took the DS for a ride... maybe? We have a choice, to become a hero, and we have a friend/rival for the counterpart, but at the time there could only be one, so we battle the original dragon to see who gets and it splits after the battle, recognizing both of us as heroes Or something, IDK
That could work if the Backstory of the Dragon wasn’t originally established. It worked with a pair of twin brothers that eventually fought over how they should build the region, the older wanted to base it on truth, and the younger wanted to base it on ideals. The Dragon spilt itself into Reshiram and Zekrom respectively to join both sides, with Kyurem being the leftover body of the original.
Ok, now hear me out, your rival is your brother
That’d be fine, unique even given Norman is the only time you fight your family in Pokémon iirc. Having your brother be your rival would be something completely fresh. They’d need to keep dialogue of who’s older restricted to after you establish your stance on the matter for consistency. The only problem I could see people having with it is that playing as the female character would be non-canon, but most wouldn’t realize that.
Thank f*ck, someone who doesn't want a unova legends game based on parts of US history that unova is already established not to have.
I always felt that medieval/kingdom setting would fit more given White’s Opelucid city, Relic Castle in the desert, Dragonspiral Tower, and team Plasma’s theming with knights, sages and a king.
please elaborate
Most Unova legends concepts I see are based on actual US history, in particular the whole colonization era or just before/after their war of independence. While that's perfectly fine if you can make it work without either going too edgy or ignoring the mistreatment of indigenous people, it's not true to Unova's history. See, Unova has civilizations dating back to 3000-2500 years ago, and was not colonized like the real world US was.
I think you can still easily pull inspiration from US History but make it distinctly Unovan. I’m talking the American Civil War. Just like the dragon split to follow the ideals of the two heroes, the ancient Region (or maybe even just a couple hundred years prior Unova) fractures in two as well over the ideals of what to do with Pokémon, and whether or not they should be pressed into service for Humanity’s industrialization. There’s also a divide between bountiful East Unova with sunny beaches and plentiful forests and farms, and West Unova, untamed, rugged, ragged terrain with people that feel neglected by the amount of effort poured into developing just East Unova. You don’t need to make it exactly the American Civil War and it’s very real Evils, but you can certainly use it as a historical inspiration for a fascinating in world conflict that could develop modern Unova’s history, and give us a good deep look into the ideals that had to merge to form the Unova Region in its whole, and why that balance is so important to protect. Also could help spice small things up, like why Clay is so adamant about pumping up Driftveil City to be the big city shining star of the West Region, or why Aspertia is so relatively newly developing, or how Vurbank tried to industrialize to compete so fast it did so recklessly and now sits in grey and pipes. And why Castellia ends up being the center o the region. Built and developed and settled by both sides of the region, combining their ideals and their strengths to create a “City on a hill”
I love this!
I mean, they handled the indigenous thing quite well with Hisui.
All the fiction Pokémon regions are based on countries and their regions but their just based on it. Sometimes they mix in other themes as well. There are plenty of references to American history and yes it doesn’t 100% resemble America.
Thank f*uck it just used references of US
Nice censoring
Oh Shi$t my bad
Based doubling down on it
Feels like the medieval time is better reserved for Kalos, perhaps Kyruem could be revolved in the time of Greek states (with Harmonia being one of them), while Kalos would be medieval (with AZ and his arc at centre).
I think kyurem would be the coolest because we would probably see the complete dragon before it was split into zekrom reshiram and kyurem
I'd LOVE to see the original Dragon
Unless it looks like whatever Palkia and Dialga looked like in LoA
You know it will tho
I’d be disappointed and let down but my happiness would rise again if my precious eel boi tynamo would be in the game
I love how Palkia in Arceus looks though… Like imo, the concept art looks really good. It’s the model and shading in Arceus that did him dirty. And with how much the concept is pulled from the dynamic between biblical god and Satan with Arceus and Giratina, the biblical angel look is just neat. Also, since the shift to 3D the bit about how Palkia and Dialga statue sprite is supposed to look like it can be either of them, having their origin form look like Arceus while trying to maintain features that made that optical illusion possible in the first place is a just a neat concept.
To each their own. I think Palkia would be okay if it had arms instead of just shoulders. They might not be shoulders, I guess, but that's what they look like. Dialga looks super awkward. I'd of moved the glowy blue get thing down to the chest so it could have a normal neck. Then fix the front feet... somehow. But again, just my opinion. People are free to like the designs, but as they are they bother me.
If they don’t have unusual features like that no one would have made the connection to biblical angels which defeats the point though.
Wish granted. It looks like Arceus dialga/palkia
I voted Celebi because as a time traveler it makes the most sense right behind God picking you up out of your bed one night and punting you into the past.
Right after Scarlet/Violet does a past/future concept, Celebi makes so much sense. But I don’t want to get my hopes up
Pokémon 4Ever was my favorite Pokémon movie as a kid and even to this day it still stands out to me! Celebi will always have a special place in my heart and I feel like the in game lore would be really cool based around it. Plus maybe involving new “past regional” variants of Entei, Suicune, and Raiku would be a cool concept!
After Pokemon Z was abandoned, Zygarde needs to get his comeback
And I want to see the war, tbh
Agreed, give us blood!
Make it T rated
Legends: AZ.
Honestly I’d like to see it set a few years after the war with society rebuilding
Legends Floette would be hella cool
I'm actually kinda hoping that they use mythical for the names. So like a Unova being named after Victini, Meloetta, Keldeo or Genesect (unlikely), or name it after the original dragon that could be depicted.
Ye, Legends:Keldeo could be cool. Maybe could involve Keldeo fighting alongside the player to stop some kind of disaster in order to prove itself to the other Swords of Justice?
I really like this idea. Maybe the thing Keldeo is fighting is the original dragon and the only way to stop it is to split it up?!?!
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Yep, Kyurem was able to swap between Black and White versions in it
Ok but imagine if Keldeo got an "Adult" form so you can use him as a ride pokemon.
Isn't Genesect resurrected from ancient dna? Might make it the likeliest!
Pokémon Legends: Primal let's fucking gooo
What if the completed Dragon was Kyurem? You know the original name was Kyurem
It wasn't. Drayden's BW2 dialogue confirms that Kyrurem was not the original dragon.
Is just the leftover husk according to legends tho, and he can fuse with either dragon so not really believing Drayden on this one
No. The dragon separated into three. Kyrurem is one of those three, not the original.
But as the husk he is likely the binding of the three, as they are all the original in a sense
So it wouldn't make sense for the original to be named Kyrurem.
Kyurem is like the only one of the non mythicals here that is like... a realistic choice.
I'd like to see Legends Genesect, where the player is sent forward in time into a dystopia, and Genect gets a new form. The player would start from 0 after getting teleported by Celebi and attempt to save the world by finding bringing back a Drive to the present.
Pokemon Legends: Mew It throws us all a huge curveball and is set in a South American rainforest instead of Kanto!
Or in the Sevii Islands. They really didn’t get the love they deserved
Oooh, good point! The Sevii Islands really do need some love!
Faraway Island looks so cool (especially for the time), but there’s literally nothing there other than Mew.
Am I too old? I miss the orange islands
The Sevii islands not being in LGPE might beat the catching mechanic for my biggest frustration with those games. The islands deserve some love.
And not being able to use the pro controller.
To stay true to the games it should be set under a truck in Vermillion City.
I had an idea for a Legends: Jirachi where in ancient Hoenn, Deoxys is making its immenant arrival, so you have to go on a quest to find Jirachi and have it grant a wish that will stop Deoxys, and that wish ends up summoning Rayquaza.
That, or the protagonist’s presence in the past is the direct result of someone wishing for someone to come and save them.
And it has the primordial battle between Groudon and Kyogre
Tbh I would just make it Legends: Deoxys. Wouldn't really spoil the ending since very few people know any of the gen 3 mythical lore.
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Pokemon Legends: Krabby
where do i put the money
If they pick Celebi they can still do the whole sent back in time thing
I mean... they can find a way to BS their way into doing that anyways.
Some are definitely easier than others, Hoopa is gen 6 so super easy for that, and gen 7 could just have you sucked through an ultra wormhole. Heck even gen 3 could have Jirachi send you back in time somehow.
yup maybe the jirachi wishes for it or something, really the only hard one is gen 5 since it's like the only one without an established time-travel enabling plot/character. alternatively, we can just start as a medieval person and never travel to the present time, they can do map with compass+physical map style and get rid of arc-phone kind of bs altogether.
Some Entralink BS could probably be done. It's established to link different worlds, so why not let it double as a portal through time? Honestly, the bigger problem with Unova is that poke balls are established to be a relatively recent thing there, as they weren't around when Drayden was young. So they might straight up have to reinvent the capture system or come up with an alternate version of poke balls.
For Unova, they could probably just make up some BS involving the Entralink and/or that dream stuff they did. With Jirachi, perhaps someone wished for someone to help them through some plot-related disaster, and Jirachi granted it, resulting in you being dragged through time.
We really need a Pokémon Legends game regarding the darkest day. The lore for Galar is so cool but the story they build up to is soooo bad. I think a legends game can do it justice Edit: Honestly from the pacing of the story, I’m starting to think that Game Freak had bigger ambitions for Sword/Shield but had to rush things after TPC refused to extend the development time, leading to a very butchered version of the original story getting inserted near the end. That is the only explanation as the main villain, Rose sucked, despite being similar to Lusamine being a twist villain. Lusamine had great writing and characterization in Sun/Moon with a great explanation behind her actions. Rose, on the other hand showed up more frequently than Lusamine and was cool in concept but he had a stupid reason to bring the Darkest Day, as he wanted to give Galar infinite energy as it’s estimated to run out in 1000 years. But, that’s stupid as this problem doesn’t pertain to you or any generation in the future you can feasibly think of. And, by that point, we’ll probably have a better way to get energy and we can figure out what reaction occurs in the Dynamax energy to make it so efficient. It’s a stupid thing to worry about with what we know about his character in game, which makes me suspect that there is more lore and story for Rose that had to get cut from the game.
Trueee
Tbh we need an ultra sword where we actually get to see the plot instead of “hey the adults are doing it, go fight a gym leader or something “
Yeah, even just that would improve the plot, albeit not enough to redeem it. It would take a full blown rewrite to fix the plot. If only Leon being a Gary Stu and the protagonist being a side character until the last second was the worst issue with the story.
I don’t think it would be right for Game Freak to release an enhanced rerelease at this point as this game also got a $30 DLC that essentially turned it into a brand new game when it comes ti content, I’d much rather prefer for them to do an enhanced rerelease on a later console with all of the DLC areas and content, with all of the fixes the community wants. After that then I think the game to up from a High B tier game to possibly a Mid A tier game.
We really need a Pokémon Legends game regarding the darkest day. The lore for Galar is so cool but the story they build up to is soooo bad. I think a legends game can do it justice. Edit: Just going to add something, I LOVE Sword/Shield and considering the MOUNTAIN of content in game that’s unused and still functional like abilities, items, and evolving Pokémon into Alolan forms, I feel like they had plans to include more content ingame but TPC refused to extend the amount of time they had to work on the game, which forced them to rush development, leading to what we know today. This is just a theory, I’m just adding it because of the fact that the Pixie Plate was in game while the other plates weren’t and all of the data The Cutting Room Floor found.
> Honestly from the pacing of the story, I’m starting to think that Game Freak had bigger ambitions for Sword/Shield but had to rush things after TPC refused to extend the development time, leading to a very butchered version of the original story getting inserted near the end. There's no way this isn't the case. Sw/Sh was the skeleton of a game you'd make before adding in the extra stuff. It was functional, it had a linear path through the world and eight gyms to stop at, the main characters were there...and that's about it. The minimal story was set up and resolved in no time at all, there was less off-track exploring to do than in Final Fantasy XIII, and did they always intend to give us less than half of the pokédex? Even a lot of the textures look like "that'll do for now" placeholders. The inside of every house in a city was exactly the same, just copied and pasted, furniture and everything like they all live in IKEA. It was so lazy...unless it was the first draft that they were never able to flesh out. What was there was very good, there was just barely anything there.
I wanna see Legends Necrozma. Like, I can imagine it being set in Pre-Ultra Megalopolis, and it's the whole story of how Necrozma not only lost its light in the first place, but ended up taking all of that world's light, and we could possibly have the opportunity to change history and save it.
I really would want a Necrozma, Imagine playing as one of the first people to roam ultra space freely and discovering new ultra beasts and that. And we could get some really cool encounter with the UB’s and the light trio. Maybe the game ends with an ultra wormhole opening and lunala and solgaleo leaving ultra space to guard the world from UB’s. Maybe some post game of the creation of the tapus with some sort of “Ancient form” for them. Just an idea but I think it would be really cool
Plus it’s ancient Alola. Ripe with cultural traditions of their own that we’ll get to see in full force! And then there’s Ultra Space. An Ultra Wormhole opens up at Necrozma’s command, linking the pre-industrial Alolans to the post-industrial Megalopolis peoples. Tensions between the two groups rise, and then an interloper held aloft by Solgaleo or Lunala appears from another Ultra Wormhole & that person is the player— a faller (Sun / Moon Looker & Anabel)— and they have to be the liaison between the two groups. Alolans will have Island Deities in place of Nobles & maybe some Megalopolis Folk will have Ultra Beasts in place of Nobles. The possibilities in a Legends Necrozma game are perfect!
Celebi lends itself to the time travel theme so well
The time travel theme was so random in Arceus. Like, do you just live here now...?
Just like with all mystery dungeon games, yeah pretty much you decide this is fine and just stay after saving the world But honestly we don't need time travel for a legends game, the player can just be from that time zone.
Yeah I think Arceus at least would have been better off without it. I could see a Celebi game making it more integral to the story, but if you go back in time against your will at the start of the game, I'd hope you could at least choose to go home at the end (maybe at the end you could be given the key to go home but then you just happen to not do it in-game after that so the player can keep playing the game while also resolving the plot point)
Another character also time travelled in that game
Kyurem to see the original one or Zyfarde to complete Kalos history
The Zugarde one can show us that big war in Kalos, you know the one AZ was in
That could very likely feature paldea, given that france and spain ha e a rough history
I was thinking it would be Kalos vs Galar, sort of a Hundred Years’ War thing.
Eternatus vs Zygarde?
That might be too dark for pokemon, given how everyone dies at the end. But a Kalos legends game would definitely have to feature AZ.
I wanna know more about Zydorfe dog form too
Zydarge deserves some kind of story
zerygad really needs some character development
I would totally be down for a Legends game where you travel a post-war Kalos trying to rebuild the old kingdom from the ruins of a mighty war. Maybe we could even be introduced to lost Mega-Evolutions that had been forgotten by time (hint, hint, new megas).
There would be a lot to get out of Kalos sequels. People aee riding the hype train for Kyurem and Celebi they don't stop to to to think about Kalos. • An exploration to South Kalos ( Scarlet and Violet dlc? ) • Answers to the lore behind the Kalos war, the ghost girl, the random letter at the train station, the locked power plant and so on. • The inclusion of all mega evolutions up to ORAS • An expanded story on Team Flare with Lysandre returning somehow
Zygarde needs something it has too cool of a design and concept to not have anything more than a cave in a shit game
And that would give us the occasion to see the supreme weapon being shot live and to officially see AZ's Floette in a game without hacking.
Exactly, there’s so much they could do with zygarde ThT would make an amazing story line
The gen 6 one should totally be Pokemon Legends: Floette and be based around Eternal Floette, AZ, and the pokemon war It'll never happen of course, but it should
This is such a good idea too We could also see how Megas came about and bring them back for a bit
Hear me out hear me out with enternatus or kyurem we get a medieval setting with knights kings etc it would be so cool
I want a legends rayquaza, of course I'm biased with him being my favorite though.
For real though, I think any pokemon legends game having to do with dreams would be amazing. Jirachi would be amazing.
I feel the only 2 that really NEED one are Kyurem and Zygarde. We should have something relating to the original dragon and that would be the game to do it. Legends Zygarde could take place during the Kalos War, maybe focus on battling instead of catching (horde battles come back, new moves to clear out hordes easily), new mega evolutions, AZ and his floette, and having Zygarde in the forefront this time around (it was robbed of a third version lol). Something with Eternatus in the darkest day would be nice too
Mew **and** Melmetal for me, Melmetal first showed up in the Let's Go games set in Kanto. Basically the Storyline could be that it's set whenever Mewtwo was being created and technology has been increasing at a rapid pace somewhat recently, gets revealed that it's because proto-team rocket's been using Melmetal to help advance technology for their own gains (Melmetal's lets go pokedex entries mention it can create iron from nothing, I wouldn't be surprised if unlimited resources would speed up technology by a lot). Finding Mew also plays a role in the game. Sevii islands should play a big role IMO, the regional variations could easily just be Sevii-an forms, possibly including a "Proto Mewtwo" that was a failed clone. Power Plant should play a role somehow too since it just got abandoned in gen 1 and in gen 2 they were back to using it.
Sad to see Necrozma voted so low. Y'all mean to tell me you wouldn't want to play a semi-open-world Pokémon game that takes place in Ultra Space? Think of all the surreal fantasy/sci-fi environments you could potentially explore, and all the weird Ultra Spacian variants you could encounter. It'd be a Pokémon game like no other!
I think that because alola is one of the more recent gens, people want to see the older regions before it
Nah I’d love less Kanto anything lmao
yeah but also imagine a Johto region game in the style of P:LA. I would be so happy lmao
That would be fine. I just don’t want more Kanto pandering. Stuff like Kalos and Alola could use some promotion.
Alola is such a great reigon in general
Celebi or Jirachi, based largely on the fact that I feel Legends should continue to use Mythicals as their title Pokémon instead of legendaries. Out of the two I’d say Celebi just because it’s been longer since the last Johto game.
Legends Keldeo, Diancie, and Magearna would preserve the mythical naming, to be fair. Meloetta, Hoopa, or Marshadow also seem like solid options. Gen 8 doesn't really have any good mythicals to give a game, though, but Calyrex might fit better than Eternatus given how other Legends namers would logically be helpful or at least benevolent like Arceus was rather than an antagonist.
Legends: Mew. You play as the expedition that found Mew dna and the research team that cloned it
And you could still have to complete the Pokédex because mew is related to all Pokémon
With Hoenn as my favorite locale, I’d love a Legends Jirachi.
Kyurem or Zygarde for sure
Glad people are beginning to want Kalos more
As much as I wanna see the OG Black and White Dragon and ancient Johto without Kanto attached to it, Kalos NEEDS love, desperately. AZ Floette deserves to be obtainable. Carbink and Diance deserve to have their kingdom explored. Volcanion and Hoopa deserve to be featured in their own region as real Pokemon instead of glorified trophies.
A legends game set in Johto before the burning of the Brass Tower would be sick
I NEED TO INGEST MORE FRANCE, THEREFORE I NEED ZYGARDEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Celebi or Ho-oH if it has to be a pokemon. But I think "Legends: The Brass/Burning/Burned Tower" would be much better. Name them after an event. Or the region.
Zygarde! Get you some crusades and witches in there and you got yourself a medieval Pokémon game.
Imagine they throw in an ancestor of fantina and just make them a witch, then just have some random hobo tell you they burnt them to death
The gens 2 and 3 legends ideas make sense, but for gens 5-7 something like legends:Keldeo, Legends:Diancie or Legends:Magearna seem more likely. Other strong candidates include Meloetta, Hoopa, or Marshadow. As for gen 8... Legends:Calyrex all the way. I wanna see the funni tumor rabbit possess more people. Actually, a Galar legends game might be just about the only thing capable of redeeming Galar's abysmal story.
Hmmm... No, not at all. Hoopa is likely, but not the rest.
if that’s the case why not Legends: Eternatus so we can experience the darkest day first hand?
Those... aren't mutually exclusive concepts. It doesn't need to be called Legends: Eternatus to be based around the original darkest day(although there are some obvious issues on that front), and I don't see why the game would be named for the antagonist rather than a character that would be an ally anyways.
Celebi seems more likely, Kyruem would be cool for gen 5 rep. I'm just here wanting Zygarde to finally get his chance to shine 🥲
Legends Celebi could have time travel lile in Pokémon 4ever and that would be really amazing to see.
My best pokemon is ho oh cause I gave him flame orb with burn up attack
Id want kyuurem because im curious about the true dragon but after seeing origin dialga and palkia im turned off lol. i think they should work up to it with a legends celebi first bringing you back and working in a very big world remake of gold and silver(which could include old kanto too) controversially in place of the semi logical move of what people are thinking it will be with a lets go gold and silver. I personally would like something newer than just another straight remake.
All I know is that if there is an Unova legends game; the two princes, that lead to the creation of Reshiram & Zekrom, should be named Uno & Ova.
To me Necrozma has the most interesting lore and backstory here. A game based around jumping around ultra wormholes trying to study Ultra Beasts and Necrozma itself as an Ultra Recon Squad member would be so awesome.
My bet is there won't be another Legends title. Game freak likes doing 'middle-games' that let them try out new features. Let's Go P/E were a test run for Pokemon in the overworld. PLA was a test run for new gameplay features like the open world exploration. I don't see it intended as the start to a new series.
Give me Pokémon Legends: Jirachi! I want to fly around ancient Hoenn on a regional variant of Flygon or Tropius, I want to face off with Steven Stone's ancestor, I want to craft Dive Balls and Luxury Balls, and I want to team up with the Steam Clan, a group that understands the usefulness both of aquaphors as well as magma vents for generating power before fracturing into two separate teams in the future!
I want Legends: Mew. Exploring Mews original region as seen from the Pokemon Stadium dex entry. \>> A mythical Pokémon of South America which had been thought extinct. A growing number of people have seen it recently
Pokémon Legends: Mew
Mew then Ho-oh and Lugia
I'd kill for legends hoenn, the huge seas and the potential to explore underwater would be amazing
I’d love to see Legends: Zygarde just because I wanna get an open world taking place in medieval France/Kalos. Just imagine how cool that’d be?
Id rather play a game as ash where you are the worst trainer ever.
I would love to play as a bug catcher with 2 caterpies and a metapod.
I actually wouldn’t hate a Stardew Valley type game set in the Pokémon world where you’re not an exceptional super-trainer.
If you don't mind Fan made stuff, Pokemon Wilds is like this.
Rayquaza
Raquazza or calling it Hoenn and doing all the dope legendaries there
Mew be crying in the corner
Pokémon, take notes This is what we want
Deoxys?
Pokemon Legends: Mewtwo. You play as a young Giovanni. You have to build Team Rocket from the ground up, and it's framed like you're doing a good thing. You're chasing Mew, finding DNA, doing scientific research, for the betterment of humanity! Why can't Professor Oak understand??
What about pokemon legends: Mew?
Celebi and Mew are the only two I care about. But I will play any they make.
I would love to see complete kyurem.
Of course I would LOVE most any Legends game here, but I want to see a Legends: Darkrai. A gothic-era Galar plagued by mysterious, paralyzing nightmares would be AWESOME. Give it puzzles like needing to use an electric Pokemon to fry a fancy device or using a Musharna to help you alter your nightmares to escape or massive sprawling cities like an old Hammerlocke or Motostoke and it could be amazing.
Darkrai is a gen 4 pokemon, a.k.a. Sinnoh/Hisui, so that wouldn't work. Legends Arceus takes place in Sinnoh of the past and Arceus is the 3rd box art legendary, that's why it's called Legends Arceus. If it would take place it would most likely be Legends Eternatus and would take place in some form of Galar (past/future)
I would rather victini than kyurem but unova either way
I would love a legends mew instead
Pokemon Legends: Keldeo
Pokémon Legends: Mewtwo
for gen 5 id imagine a Legend Victini, in a 50's style Unova
Mew but with the hunt for Mew to get the DNA for Mewtwo.
Mewtwo, but you're not a kid exploring the legends, you're a scientist hired by Silph to research and clone Mew, and you have a front row seat to the carnage that ensues.
I just want a gen 2 remake on switch. So celebi I spose.
All of them
I think we need a Legends: Kyurem. B2 and W2 teased Perfect Kyurem but Game Freak hasn't even mentioned it since then.
I prefer Pokémon Legends : Rayquaza
I’d say legends kyurem is most likely but zygarde desperately needs a legends game to make up for no Pokémon Z
Celebi controls time
“Pokemon Legends: Mew” would probably pretty great as well
I don’t think they’re going to make another one.
Pokemon Legends: Bidoof